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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes Jul-Dec 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 27, 1989 The regularly scheduled Planning Commission Meeting of December 26, 1990 was cancelled because of a lack of quoro . i Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December' 13, 189 Chairman Y1cNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga a Tannin' Commissiont� Ord �t � �k P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line iRoad, Rancho Cucamonga, California, Chairman Niel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: [avid Bla esley, Suzanne Chiti a, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brine Abbott, Associate Planner-; Shintu Rose, [deputy City Engineer; Brad Buller, City Plainer, Dan Coleman, Principal Planner- Nancy 'Fong, Senior Planner- Jerry Obarra ino, Assistant Planner-, Bar ye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City; Attorney- 'Olen Jones, Senior RBA Analyst- Ping Kho, Assistant Civil Engineer- Russ Maguire, City Engineer- Cindy Norris, Associate Planner- Steve Ross, Assistant Planner- 'Gail Sanchez, Secretary- Joe Schultz, Community Services Manager ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller,' City' Planner, requested that Item B be pulled from the Consent' Calendar in order to add a condition. rBuller stated at the applicants for Items F and H' had both requested' at their items be continued until January , 1990. Buller announced ' at the Community Services Director had requested that Items K and L be placed at the end of 'this evening's agenda. rBuller stated that the Planning Commission would need to mourn' tonight's Ming to a workshop following Design Review can December 21 to review Phase II of Town Center and that meeting would adjourn to a special ,point workshop; with the Historic Pres rva ion Commission on January'4, 1990 following Design Review, to review Thomas Winery. r Buller announced that the City had received notice that the owner, of the th Street Rock 'Crusher had today filed suit against the County of San Bernardino. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Ohitiea, seconded by Weinberger, carried with Blakesley absent, to adopt the minutes of November 29, 1989, as amended. F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89- 9 -'DEW CROP INN e�requi­sf to igfWlifi a am a ease space o square eet within an existing building on 1.09 acres of land in the Commercial Office District, Subarea of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located at 9583 Foothill Boulevard - APN: ` - 61- . H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-16 - CHILIS _ The eve o n o a res au ran o a ng , square ee w ,n e terra Vista Torn Center on 1 'acre of land in the Community Commercial District of the Terra Vista Planned Community, ';located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Foothill Boulevard - APN: 1077-4 1-OS. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no public comments. i i carried with Blekesld absent Motion: Moved b Tolsto seconded b Eh t ea y to continue Environmental Assessment` and Conditional Use Permit 89- 9 and Environmental Assessment and Development Review -16 to January 10„ 1990. CONSENT CALENDAR A. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 103 - LEWIS HOMES - A residential su v s on an es gn revs o s ng a am y -Tots on; 1 .9 acres of land in the Terra "Vista Planned Community 'designated Low-Medium nsity 4-8 dwel 1 i ng' units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Terra Vista Parkway and Mountain View Drive - APN: 7`-151-13 and 14. Don Thompson, Lewis Homes, P. 0. Box 670, Upland, requested that Item A be removed from the Consent Calendar. hearing. Chair n Niel shed the ublic p . Thompson stated construction had been delayed for over a year in the park detention basin controversy until they ';gave in and agreed to only one detention basin instead of the two called for in their contact, He stated they subsequently voluntarily delayed construction in order to work with the Parks Commission in the redesign of the YMCA/park site, which necessitated: redesign of the storm drain. He said they were now ready to proceed with plan check on the 96 single family _units, which were originally approved.' He Planning Commission Minutes - - December 13,` 1989` stated that if the time extension were denied, they would return with a denser project of probably 160 town houses. Chairman McNiel stated the City Council has passed an amendment with respect ' to the street widths, calling for 60 feet and the Planning Commission did not have any option other than to deny the time extension. Thompson asked if they could keep the 46 foot-wide streets ets if they went to gated community. Barrye Manson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated than if they went to gated streets it would be hard to find the final map to be in substantial compliance with the tentative map. He stand at the request of Lewis, 0rchard was tieing deleted on the southeast corner, and that also affects the map.' Thompson stated Lewis had spoken to Shintu Bose regarding the possibility of` taking the portion that was to be Orchard Avenue and making it part of the greenway. Shintu Bose, 0eputy City Engineer, stated he told Lewis to go through an amendment process before finalizing the map» Chairman McNiel asked if the Planning Commission could delay action in order to allow Lewis time to work with Planning and Engineering on alternatives. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that during the request for extension and/or appeal process, the time limes have been tolled and if the applicant returned with a final map during that period, the City would have to adept the map. Thompson asked if they could appeal and return to Design Review with a compromise to do a private, gated community while awaiting to go to City Council . Chairman McNiel asked if it would be possible to delay action and extend the existing map without giving 'a full one-year extension. Rarrye Hanson stated that once the request is filed, there is an automatic extension of '60 days or until the planning Commission acts. Chairman McNiel asked if the final map were produced prior to Planning Commission action, if it would be considered in compliance even though it were not in compliance with current code, Mr. Thompson stated he thought the final map was in for plan check for a long period prior to the amendment, but that. Engineering had not accepted the final because they were trying to resolve problems with the drainage.` garrre Hanson stated that the problems were parts of the improvements of the whole Terra Vista project and it is Terra Viista's responsibility to complete the infrastructure improvements.rove nts.- He did not feel the City slowed up the process. Planning Commission Minutes - - December 13, 1989 Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea felt that if the applicant were allowed time, they would go ahem and file the final map and the City will have lost the' opportunity to get a project that meets current standards. Commissioner Tolstoy stated there would be no opportunity for changes. Commissioner Chitiea stated that if the project were denied the developer could come back with the minor modifications needed to get it right. Chairman McNiel stated that he was not responding to the veiled threat of increased density. Commissioner Chitiea felt that a denial would not necessarily mean that Lewis` would be allowed a denser project, as any project would still have to proceed through Design Review. Commissioner Tolstoy stated the deleted portion of Orchard still needs to be< solved. Commissioner Chitiea felt that the City should take the opportunity to get it; right. Lion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution denying Time Extension for Tentative Tract 13303. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITI EA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY carried B. DESIGN REVIEW FOR ACT 13280 - Lg C - e design view for u ng' a eva ions and detalle si-t-6"-p-Ta-n----for a 'previously approved tentative tract map consisting of 145 single family Eats on 23.9 acres of land in the Low-Medium nsity Residential` District 4-8 dwelling units per acre) of the Victoria Planned Community, located at the' northeast corner of Rase Line Road and RelvinoWest (Ellena + West) - PN 27- 106. Steve Ross, Assistant ' Planner, suggested addition of a condition to require e siding to be carried around the entire second story of all units which have siding. He stated the condition was requested at Design Review. Chairman iel asked if the applicant had been advised of the additional condition, Planning Commission Minutes'' - - December 13, 1989 i Mr. Ross stated the applicant had already submitted elevations with siding as requested. Chairman McNiel opened the ;public hearing. Rearing no testimony, the public hearing was closed. Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Weinberger, to adopt the Resolution " approving Design Review for Tract 13280. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES; COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BL ESLEY carried PUBLIC HEARINGS C. MODIFICATIONS TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88- eqe o modify- the condition ot appro rFq uT rii ng a und&Tfto_un_ding of utilities along Sale Line Road for the development of a shopping center a` related Parcel Map a the northwest corner o Rase Line Road and Victoria Park Lane - A : 2 -1 - 8, 34, and 36. (Continued from November 29, 1989.) Ping Kho, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. John Hayes, Hughes Investments, P. 0. Box 8700, Newport Beach, requested modification to obtain relief from the original conditions requiring un a group i g of all the overhead utilities. He said in the old ' Base Line Road right-of-way, the area is fronted by two separate properties which Davidson does not n. He stated that Southern California Edison Mated the service would have to remain to an existing 'winery and a house and felt undergrounding of that portion of the lines would be an unnecessary expense because the 'home and winery will eventually be abandoned when old Base Line' Road is vacated by the City, He said they had designed their undergrounding system to accommodate the future system when the overhead is abandoned. He statedthe transition required off-site would necessitate removing two additional po les o es and the overhead utilities hies connected h p � to them.. said because the don 't n the property and have encountered difficulties in obtaining easements for surface improvements, they proposed placing the transition underground. He requested that they be allowed reimbursement on that portion. He requested that the in-lieu reimbursement agreements be executed prior to performing the work. Chairman McNiel asked what is planned for old Base Line Road. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the City hopes to vacate old Rase Line Road and probably the 1 a nd to the north and south would be combined. He Planninc3 Commission Minutes ' -5- December 13, 1989 stated there are no immediate plans as no proposals have been received. He felt it was a fair assumption that old Base Line Road would be abandoned.' He said in conditioning the project the City tried to clean up the area and had hoped the poles could be removed;® He stated staff supported the applicant's request to eliminate undergrounding in that area. Chairman 1 asked if err din will "o ie as and n � o from e Line Read d new s t Rase Line Road. Hayes stated they proposed that when the new system goes in it will leave the overhead to the house and winery as a' dedicated service to that parcel . He said they would provide a stub in under Rase' Line Road to allow service to the parcel when it is developed in the future. He felt they should not have to forfeit the irk-lieu` fee for that distance of frontage along the project. He stated they feel they are providing an underground backbone system in place of an existing overhead system. He said they were given no credit for the north/south portion where there is no frontage but they have to underground because the poles would be in the middle of the street when they make the transition from the widened' Rase Line Road to old Base _Line Road. He said they have had difficulty obtaining se nts for the surface improvements and thereis not enough room to relocate poles and guy wires. He felt they should e reimbursed 100 per cent and the two benefit-parcels on either side of the street should pay the cost of the system. Chairman McNiel asked for clarification regarding the` off-site under ending. * Hanson stated at staff feels at e off-site'u ergr ding will have to be relocated in the future. He said the City feels it would be unfair to charge the owner across the street to pair a portion of the fees , and also require that they relocate the lines when they develop. He stated the i;ty's standard requirement is to go to the first pole off-site. Commissioner olstoy thought the condition was written to allow reimbursement so long as the undergrounding is located in the final position. . Hanson responded affirmatively'. Commissioner olstoy agreed that it did not seem fair to charge the owner across the street a portion of the current move plus the full cost of a future move. Commissioner itiea asked if it can be determined now where the line should go. Hanson stated it is on someone else's property. Hayes stated they were willing to leave the overhead, but the lines will require guy wires, and the owners of the property pert will not grant easements. Hearing no further i h i sumo the public earn s closed , � p g Planning Commission Minutes -6- December 13, 1989 Mr. Hanson stated the developer is putting; In a new electrical main along his project frontage and is requesting reimbursement. He said reimbursement has only been provided for undergrounding existing overhead utilities. He said developers are putting in electrical mains all over the City and have never been given reimbursement. Commissioner Tolstoy felt that it is reasonable not to underground the line above ground north of old Base Line Road, because the same person owns the property both north and south of old Base Line Road. He felt that in the future a developer would want to combine the property and the City could then have the utilities undergrounded. He felt' that the condition was appropriate because it reads that the developer is eligible for one-half reimbursement if e undergrounding is located in its ultimate location. Commissioner Chitiea concurred. Lion. Moved by Tolstoy;, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolutions` approving Modifications to 'Conditions of Approval for Conditional Use Permit` 885 and Parcel Map 1183B. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: A8SENT.' COMMISSIONERS: BL ESL -carried 7: 5 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed due to bomb threat 8; 5 P.M. Planning Commission Reconvened D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 89 0 8 - CITY OF reCues o amend Vpn , ny run 'n a e urces,' an ec on lic Safety, elements of the General Plan as they relate to hillside development and grading, and will involve revising the definitions of hillside from 10 or greater to 8 or greater, as well as restricting development on slopes which are 30% or greater. E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT 89-02 - CITY OF RAffCfJD_­CUCAK0NGA__-_ An ame n MR 17 5f the ffinicipal Cod# by aaalng ap er 1 . 4, Sections 17.24.0 0 through 17.24.090, 17.06.010.C.l.g and 17.06.020.C*6; amending subsections 17. 6.010.E*5, 17.08.040.8 and C 17.08. .E.S 17.18.0 .D, 17#18,0 0.A, 17.18.030.C, 17.1.8.0 .A.1 17.18.E . .S. , and 17.18.0 40.E.S.b; and deleting subsections 17.06.010.E.S.a through f, 17.18.0 .A.l.a through a and 17.18.0 .E,Sa.i through iv, regarding establishment of guidelines and standards for hillside development. Planning Commission Minutes -7- December 13, 1989 Cindy Norris , AssociatePlanner, presented the staff report. She presented a slide presentation depicting examples of good and poor hillside development* evelop nt* She provided copies of letters expressing concerns' from Landmark Land and Land/Plan/Design (the Consortium)'. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Stove Shepard, Brock Homes, 250 East Ri'ncon, Corona, presented a letter detailing concerns. He stated he appreciated, the concerns of the City that led to the development of the ordinance, but he felt that the standards will lead to similar designs for all hillside development. He felt the standards will not allow custom quality devel opment, as the envel ope limits architectural roof styles; i .e., requiring roof lines to be parallel to the hill will not allow pitched roofs. He felt the limit should be raised from 30 feet to 35 feet, He stated the elimination of a cantilever at the back of the house does not take passive solar energy into account. He felt the limitation of building materials and colors will lead to monotonous, repetitive houses. He thought it is not reasonable to eliminate privacy galls. He felt retaining _ structural elements should be separated from house,Dose, not integral to the house, as damaged retaining walls would lead to damaged houses. He s ta to d that roughening up swales. will add to the cost and lead to maintenance problems, as debris will be caught. He felt the requirements for lot landscaping could be in the CC&Rs, instead of borne by the; developer, He felt the capacity' factor for density is o restrictive and sued it 'would not;, allow for half-acre lots on sites with 10 percent grade. He requested that 1 percent be used as the 'base, instead of H percent. Brian Dawson, DHP' ,architects, 13002 SkyparkCircle, Irvine, s a d he does a lot of hillside development. He felt the building envelopes were far too' restrictive, and 35 feet would be more realistic. He stated at with a 30 foot height limitation, a two-story house could not be built, He said it would be necessary to buildtwo-story houses to obtain the square footage' required of this level housing. He said the need to concentrate the tWo-stDry mass in the center of the houses will lead to monotony. He suggested:' increasing e envelope or allowing for interpretation to allow stepping; down in back. He felt` that retaining a 30-foot limit would lead to narrow, fairly deep houses. Jorge Garcia, Garcia and Associates, 7167 Cambridge, Rancho Cucamonga, felt e height limitation should be reconsidered, and thought 36 feet would allow for more creativity. Richard Douglas, Landmark Land, 110 North Lincoln Avenue, Corona, felt the ordinance should go further and establish greater scrutiny in certain areas with special considerations for topography and drainage. He felt a number limit should not be set on buildable areas of slope, but there should be special studies of various areas. Paul Taylor;, Et`iwanda Heights Development, 9227 Haven Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, thanked staff for working on the ordinance. He was concerned regarding the size of building sites and calculated density factors. He wanted to be able to develop at an affordable price. Planning Commission Minutes -8- December 13, 1989 Hearing no further testimony, the, public hearing was closed. Chairman McNiel stated the City came realize the necessity for a hillside ordinance because of some of the building occurring in the City's sphere of influence. He felt the area needs to be treated sensitively. He thought the ordinance needs to be strict in order to force developers to be creative in development and developers could utilise the variance process when necessary. He felt the design community would have to prove to the City that; they could not work with the restrictions. Commissioner Tolstoy liked the 0-foot height limit when taping about gall footprint houses, but felt a 4,000 square foot hoarse could perhaps have a higher height limit. He thought perhaps a ratio could be included for raising, the height: limit as the footprint expanded. He felt the height could be raised so long as it didn't interfere with the natural terrain around e slope. Commissioner Chitiea agreed that narrow, tall ;houses would be inappropriate and thought flexibility might be best. Chairman McNiel stated the developers could expand e footprint and go down slope. Commissioner Chitiea stated that increasing the footprint would use more of the laird. She suggested allowing optional standards with some other mitigation measures, such as requiring larger lot sizes. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested a statement that informed the architect that a variance could be requested. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated there is a provision for minor exceptions which would allow up to a 10 percent variance in the standard. Norris stated staff surveyed; other communities and 30' feet seemed in line' with at many had in place. She indicated staff has been working with one applicant and encouraging em to dig in for subterranean excavation and the amount they dig down will not be counted as part of the 30 feet. Commissioner Chitiea asked how the Commission felt about requiring some other mitigations. Chairman McNiel felt the developer should approach the Commission with a variance to show why it would be necessary. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was satisfied because a is some leeway. . Chairman McNiel asked about the prohibition of cantilevered seconds rieis. Ms. Norris stated a intent is to reduce the massive appearance which would be given from lame overhangs. She said the guidelines section presented the idea but did not say that the second stories could not be cantilevered. Planning Commission Minutes -9- December 1 , 1989 Commissioner Tolstoy felt the section was fine as written* Chairman Niel asked about the stucco in earth tone colors. Norris stated that was added as a guideline following a workshop to cut down on visibility from a distance. Commissioner Chitiea stated the intent was to avoid brilliant buildings which can be seen for miles. She felt muted colors would not appear monotonous because they will not stand out that much. Chairman Niel asked how subdivision walls could be rude part of the house in custom lot subdivisions. Norris stated a section in the guidelines states at if a house is being plotted or sided adjacent to a roadway, the wall should be designed as part of the house and could refer to an integral wall , She said the intent was from concerns that if dross-lot drainage was being used, it is necessary to provide permanent protection of the drainage. She stated that in a custom-lot subdivision the developer would put in drainage at an early stage when the area is graded, She said the intent is to place it where theywould most likely place walls in the future, r Buller stated at it is likely that most of the development will not be custom lots. He also indicated that the Commission does not have to allow grading before the product is reviewed and approved. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that in some areas it might all be custom lots. He said" that if a developer divides the property pert into custom lots and pins i streets and grading, an individual can build 'a single house without going through [design Review. Buller stated that under the proposed ordinance if a lot has a particular grade, any development may be subject to Commission revi Norris stated at development on lots; in the B 15 percent grade range would be subject to City Planner' review and he could refer projects up to the Commission, when he felt it would be appropriate. Buller suggested that the Commission could establish a theme of retaining walls when they approve a map. The applicant would then be forced to return' to e Planning Commission in order to change the walls. 1 drainage ales would be in e Chairman 1 felt that e rock finish look a Elie e_t a g appropriate for the community. Norris stated at the ordinance was changed to provide that rocks would not be placed in the center of the drainage ditches, but only on the sides .' e said it was felt this would allow better flora. Planning Commission Minutes -10- December 13, 198 Commissioner Tolstoy stated that all drainage systems need maintenance, not just those with rough surfaces. Chairman MtNiel stated that half-acre lots can be created anywhere, it just isn't passible to generate so many. Commissioner Chitiea felt it was unfortunate at the ordinance was not put in place many ears ago. She felt half-acre should be the minimum size for lots . Chairman WNiel asked how the Commission felt about 1.0 percent versus B percent, or perhaps incremental adjustments from B to 10 percent. Commissioner Chitiea felt 8 percent is; reasonable{ Chairman McNiel felt it provides better control . He felt the envelope height- limit forces the architects to seek solutions they have not yet found. Commissioner Chitiea asked if a minor exception could ' be applied on the envelope height. Buller stated it would. Chairman McNiel stated the City must have a place to start so far as calculation of the density factor. He felt it is better to be too strict than too liberal . It was his opinion that the standards proposed were reasonable and not too .strict. Commissioner Chitiea felt it is more important to consider what is being done to the hillside than to try to see that the highest density is built. She' thought; them should not be dense development next to the mountainside. She felt the ordinance was ll written and appreciated ' the graphics} She f ou nd' it helpful to show appropriate and inappropriate designs, Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the use of greenbelts and collector streets to take up grade was discussed. He felt that greenbelts are important in many respects, but because, of the cost of maintenance, he felt greenbelts should be kept at a minimum. He did not want huge slopes, but he felt it would be necessary to take up some of the grade in sideya.rd slopes, which he felt were monotonous. He wanted to incorporate some language that the slope would be taken up in combination with architecture, split level , stem galls , etc. Norris stated that the intent was not that developers use an either/or approach. Buller suggested that the Commission was looking for flexibility. Commissioner Chitiea suggested inserting "some" consideration may be allowed. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was important to use both slope and construction techniques. Planning Commission Minutes -1'1 December 1 , 1989 Buller suggested the wording be changed to show at for master planned projects ich include special design features, the Planning Commission± may consider alternative grading techniques as partial compliance with the section stated that there may also be situations where e developers may wish to createlots better related to a special site, such as a golf course. He suggested the Commission may then wish ' to consider padded building sites adjacent to the special feature, when it is found at such grading would create a better relationship between the special design feature and the adjacent lots. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed that it was important to take advantage of those special f res. He stated e felt staff did are excellent Job in writing the ordinance. Norris suggested changing the wording under the review procedures section to clarify the review process. She stated that in addition to the normal view procedures 'so projects would require additional review'because of the slope category, and the sensitivity of the grade'. Commissioner Chitiea felt that was a good idea. Chairman McNiel stated that the ordinance was the result of the work of many;: people. '` He thanked the community and the landowners in the area for their input and guidance. He stated it has been a pleasure working with the Consortium. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the formulation of the ordinance began in 1978 and 1979. He expressed pleasure that the ordinance was becoming a ali ty. Lion; Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 89 0 8 and Environmental Assessment and Development Cade Amendment 89-02, with modifications to clarify grading applicability and review procedures. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: MISSIONERS: CNITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried 10:00 P.M. -`Planning Commission Recessed 10: 15 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened Commissioner Blakesley joined the meeting Planning Commission Minutes - - December 13, 1989 G. XERISCAPE ORDINANCE - A proposal to amend the Rancho Cucamonga Municipal Ndi y a ng a new Chapter 19*16 and adding a new Section 17.02.135, pertaining to Xeriscape requirements. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. He stated a joint meeting had been held on December 12 between the City Council and Cucamonga County Water 'District, at which time the proposed ordinance was 'discussed. He stated that the ordinance was supported as a first step ' and there would be ongoing discussions of other measures which can be taken by the Water District and the City. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Hearing no testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea felt it was appropriate adopt the ordinance» Chairman McNiel agreed that it was timely. Brad Buller, City' Planner, stated that at the Joint City Council Cuca nga County Water District meeting the suggestion had been raised that perhaps all model homes should be conditioned to utilize water saving landscaping and irrigation, instead of one model home as provided in the proposed ordinance. Chairman McNiel felt one would be a minimum consideration to identify ;what eiscape means. He stated he would be content to require a lamer number. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested at least 50 percent of the models should utilize xeriscape techniques. He felt visitors should have an opportunity to see both kinds of treatments. Commissioner Blakesley liked the concept. tion: Moved by Rlakesley, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution recommending approval of the Xeriseape Ordinance, with modifications to require at least 50 percent of model homes to utilize water saving landscaping and irrigation= Motion carried by the followingvote: AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER COMMISSIONERS: NE ABSENT: C ISSICN S: NONE -carried I» ! ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW N -40 GARCIA AND ASSOCIATES - e 501 ings totaling square feetais Phase II of a 10.3 acre industrial park in the General Industrial District, Subarea 8 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at 10955 Arrow Route - APN: 209-14 '-33. Associated with this is Tree Removal Permit gg-SS. Planning Commission Minutes' -13- December 13, 1989 Jerry Guarracino, Assistant 'Planner, presented e staff report. Chairman WNiel requested clarification on the widening of Arrow Route. Mr. Guarracino, stated that for safety reasons the developer was being conditioned to widen Arrow Route from Red Oak Street to Vincent Avenue and could request a reimbursement agreement for the off-site improvements from future d elop nt of adjacent properties. Barye Hanson, Senior 'Civil Engineer, stated at Engineering 'would keep the reimbursement agreement on file and collect funds from future development and fund to the applicant. Commissioner Chitiea asked if a second employee eating area was provided. uarracino stated the project was conditioned to have the second employee eating area approved by staff and the applicant had not yet provided any drawings. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. ` Norbert Boe , partner, Intech Ventures, 27260 Haggerty Road, Farmington, Michigan, objected to the off-site paring on Arrow Route. He stated that the Post Office owns a portion of the property across the street and would not be developing it, so he would not receive any reimbursement. He stated he had purchased land for additional right-of-w in order to build the intersection. He felt the off-site widening of Arrow Route should be constructed by the developer of the adjacent property. said he had met with the owner of one parcel and `they have no immediate plans to develop. Chairman McNiel Mated that sometimes the only way to eradicate an unsafe condition is to place the burden on a developer and allow for reimbursement in e future when adjacent property develops. . Boes suggested that he be allowed to put in the asphalt and restripe the; street,'with Barton to put in the curb and gutter, later. Chairman Niel stated that would mean the street would be torn up twice. Jorge Garcia, Garcia and Associates, 10722 Arrow Route, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that during Phase I they were allowed to occupy 35 percent of the buildings and were not allowed to occupy, e remainder until the improvements were completed. He requested they be allowed to occupy the remainder of Phase because it would take four months to complete the drawings on Phase 11. r. Guarracino stated there were some landscaping improvements at were part of the' original rehabilitation at were not completed as of his last inspection. . Boes stated there was approximately $ 0,000 in landscaping improvements in e front of the project including sidewalk, that would be torn up with the Planning Commission Minutes -14- December 13, 1989 installation of Phase II. He said they have posted an irrevocable letter of credit. Dan Coleman, principal Planner, stated staff had not previously been approached on this item and were not prepared to respond. He suggested meeting with the developer to discuss. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff understood that occupancy was delayed until Phase 'II. At the time Phase I was completed, ere was no assurance at Phase II would be built He felt the area could be handled at the staff level . Chairman McNiel asked if the employee plaza was on paper as yet. Garcia stated it had not been drawn yet, because they thought it was to be reviewed by staff and would not be needed for tonight's meeting'. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was dosed. Commissioner` Chit ea concurred the employee plaza did not have to return to Design Review, as staff review would be sufficient. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the plaza proposed between the buildings would be -nice. Commissioner Blakesley thought the street improvements re essential because of the increased traffic. Chairman McNiel felt grow Route would' be widened throughout the City. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by lakesle , to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 8 40. Motion carried'by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER COMMISSIONERS: NONE SENT: COMMISSIONERS: NC carried J. ENVIRONMENTAL ' ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-05 FOOD SERVICE e M'055HFefit o a 2;537 sq r a ii oo r v e- ast- food restaiufriftg onacres within the 7.8 acre Alta Loma Country Village shoeing Center� in the Neighborhood Commercial District, located t the northeast corner of Carnelian Avenue and Rase Line Road A 202 1-24 through 26, ;28 through 33, 35, and 36. Bruce AbbottAssociate Planner, ;presented 'the staff 'report. Planning Commission Minutes Is- December 13, 1989 Garth Sheriff, Sheriff & Associates, 3440 Motar Avenue, Los Angeles, stated he was available to answer questions. Chairman McNiel asked how many cars could be stacked in the drive-thru lane. Abbott responded seven. Commissioner Chitiea asked if < there were any cross pieces to support landscaping on the lattice work. Mr. Sheriff stated they wanted to have a diagonal statement at the top to match the drive-thru, and they could add horizontal treatment. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the green could be slightly modified, and stated she h tile ed the rest of the center might follow. She felt the green pain on the field of Carl_r s appears too intense. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested modification to a more muted green. Sheriff stated he would be willing to modify. He said he was willing to mock it up in the field for approval by staff and Commissioners . Chairman McNiel asked if that would be amenable to the owner of the center. Sheriff d would be re than happy to do e entirecenter, but asMthey did net own Cal 's they could not force them to change. Commissioners Chitiea and Tolstoy stated th would like to view the color in the field. Commissioner Chitiea asked when the rest of the center would be modified. Sheriff stated the footings have been poured for the arcade. Donald Jones, partner stated there had been some problems with contractors, and the renovations should begin right after the first of the year, Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea asked if it was permitted to have Arby's sign on all four sides, as shown in the elevations. r.. Abbott stated the name would be permitted on a maximum of three sides, He stated standard condition F.1 required a separate application for sign approval and conformance with the sign program. Motion, Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blake ley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review g C , with modification to require addition of horizontals on the trellis.llisMotion` carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes - ' December 13, 1989 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ESEEY', CHITIEA, NI, , TOESTOY, WEINBERGER ES; COMMISSIONERS: NE' ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NE -carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS M. THE PROPOSAL TO ESTABLISH DESIGN POLICIES REQUIRING ADDITIONAL RX- -TREATKENT AND ALTERNATIVE TEXTURE BUILDING MATaTALS FOR' TRUSTRWTUTEDIRG WITRIN THE TROUSTRIAL SPECIFIC 'PEAR AREA bon due ifi Ov_iiiRF , Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel invited public comment, but there was none. Commissioner Rlaesley stated the modifications made to the Resolution appeared address points raised in the discussion at the November 29, 1989 meeting. Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Design Polices requiring additional architectural ' treatment and alternative texture building materials for industrial buildings within the Industrial Specific Plan Area. Motion' carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER ES: COMMISSIONERS: NE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NE carried Lotion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to continue the meeting beyond '11:00 P.M. N. CONSIDERATION OF ADDING DRUG STORES AND PHARMACIES IN THE SPECIALTYCWMCIAL nmrCT OF THE FO=I[U"8DUUEVARD__SPECIFIC--RAN— Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner ` Tolstoy felt the proposal from Gemmel Pharmacy was appropriate for the specialty commercial category. He hoped there was some way to draft language which would allow that type of an operation while excluding larger drug stores. Planning Commission Minutes -1 - December 13, 1989 a J Co` issioner Chitiea felt Gemmel Pharmacy would enhance the 'Thomas Winery center by providing a different aspect. Commissioner Rlakesley felt size limits might be used to preclude drug stores which were not specialty commercial . Co issioner Chitiea felt it would be good to approach utilizing the winery She _felt what specialty includes and doesn't include should be spelled out. Brad Buller, City Planner, felt confident staff could come up with appropriate language and supported the idea that the use be conditional . It was the unanimous consensus of the Planning Commission to direct staff to study and prepare n amendment to the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan to allow some types of drug stores and pharmacies in the Specialty Commercial [district. 11: 15 P.M. Planning Commission Recessed 11 P . - Planning Commission Reconvened K . PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF RANCHO U O A SPORTS COMPLEX Joe Schultz,' Community Services %nager, introduced Michael Schafer, Grillas, Pirc, Rosier, Alves , 4940 Irvine Boulevard, Irvine;` Bobetin , RJM Design Group, 27285 Las Ra ` las, Mission Viejo, Dan Guerra, Derbish, Guerra & Associates ; and professional sports agent Michael Watkins, 8331 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga. He stated the Park and Recreation Commission had requested that compact parking spaces comprise 35 percent of `the project and that off-site parsing be shared with the surrounding industrial a a w eting discussed the site plan and traffic circulation. He s ta ted the ba lfi lds were being clustered for tournament play with a control area at the stadium which afforded visibility of all the fields. He stated the stadium would seat 3,500 people. He shared small park, area along Rochester by the' in entrance. He discussed the animal shelter and additional parking along Arrow. Commissioner Chitiea asked if there would be bleacher seating for the ballfieds. eting responded there would be terraced bleacher seating for approximately 200 people at each ball field, with slopes surrounding each field to allow for additional informal seating. Schafer,' project architect, discussed the stadium architecture and access. Planning Commission Minutes -18- December 13, 1989 `I I Mr, Mueting distributed a parking study. He said current City requirements call for one parking stall for 'every three seats , but their study indicated one stall for every four seats ;would be more reasonable. He suggested the City could control the use of the remaining ballfields to avoid conflicts with the stadium. He indicated their consultant felt the stadium would be fully utilized only seven times per season, and typical minor league stadium attendance is 1,250 people. He suggested a modified parking configuration of 62 feet as opposed to the standard 67 feet. He stated there would be the potential of using the ball fields for additional parking for special events. Chairman Niel stated the orientation of the facilities appeared okay, but he felt perhaps the parking orientation could be shifted. Commissioner Chitiea asked if one soccer field could be shifted. Mr'. Mueting ;stated the fields were all oriented for daylight play, and all fields would have lighting for evening use. Olen Jones, Senior RDA Analyst,'; stated the placement of the animal control facility had been determined by City Council . Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated City Council had` directed that the animal control building could not be brought on site, but must remain on Arrow. Chairman McNiel suggested that surrounding landowners may not be receptive to joint use parking and that liability would have to be addressed* Schultz stated that the Park and Recreation Commission suggested the City may wish to allow surrounding property owners to utilize the sports park as part of their landscaping in exchange for allowing Joint-use parking. Chairman McNiel stated that when the' City starts trading off amenities of a project the purpose of the Industrial Specific plan is defeated He felt it is necessary to subject the City to the same standards as other developers in e community. Ming stated they wished to reduce the landscaping required in the parking lot and place it on the perimeter., Commissioner Chitiea stated landscaping is required in parking lots to make them more pleasant. Buller stated that either of the proposed landscaping treatments did not et the requirements for number of trees per stall . He believed there may be some it for removing the finger islands because of the use of the parking lots and the fact that the landscaping will be trampled, causing maintenance problems . He suggested some of the landscaping; could be moved to the perimeter. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that if the parking area was to be used for swap meets, landscaping fingers' would not be appropriate. He felt the fewer grow cover areas in such a parking lot, the better. Planning Commission Minutes _19- December 13, 1989 Commissioner glakesley concurred that the more trees the better, but groundcover should not be used. He asked how the trees would be ,protected from carves. eting stated they were planning to install six-inch curbs around e base of the tree. Commissioner Chitiea stated she did not like the concept, but if the parking lot were to be used for those activities, the concept made sense. r ins stated there are no minor league stadiums in the country with trees in the parking lot; Commissioner Chitiea felt more trees should be added to the perimeter. Chairman Niel stated the trees must be compatible with the ; lighting fixtures. He suggested the modified parking ing concept of 62 feet` could be investigated. Commissioner Chitiea was uncomfortable with e use of compact spaces. Commissioner 7olstoy stated that directed parking would be used for some of the events, and compact spaces would not work well in that situation. eting suggested putting all the compact parking spaces; away from the field. He stated there` would also be bus perking. Commissioner Tolstoy felt more land is needed, He felt that after a game egress from the parking lot will be a nightmare. Frank Heinrichs, Robert Kahn and Associates, 4063 Birch Street, Newport Beach, stated the lower access was .designed be :secondary by reducing the number of lanes and utilizing a T section. Commissioner Chitiea asked if there was any possibility for another access point on Rochester. Chairman McNiel felt that use of the park for other special functions should' be considered because such functions might attract more people than the projected ball games. r. Schultz stated that other activities are not scheduled during the special events and ticket sales could be limited. He felt it would be possible to work on having a tram from adjacent malls or industrial properties for the seven peak-demand ga s. Commissioner Chitiea felt that it might be inappropriate block out regular teams when a special event such as a rock concert is scheduled. Watkins stated there is no minor league ballpark at can accommodate parking for a sellout. Planning Commission Minutes December 13, 1989 Mr. Buller, stated that night's meeting was to determine which issues need W be addressed, He felt the Commission had expressed that parking is a concern and that circulation should be further addressed. He suggested that if the developer wished to utilize shared parking, a stuoy must be submitted. He stated that modified parking stalls would require a Code amendment. Chairman McNiel stated that he would like to eliminate compact parking spaces, but he felt perhaps the standard size could be reduced from the current g by 19 feet to 8-1/ y 18 feet because cars are getting smaller. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that pickups are not getting smaller. Buller asked if the Planning Commission wished to eliminate the compact spaces in the plan. Commissioner ` Tolstoy asked how the tram service would work and how people would be informed that such service was available, Schultz stated that several options have been discussed, including participation of the regional shopping center with the center' providing i the vehicle. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was net prepared to discuss the design. She stated that the < project should meet the same standards as all other development in the City. Chairman McNiel felt the design was contemporary. Commissioner Blakesley felt there should be some way to dress up the area under the seats. Commissioner Chitiea stated the plaza area was her biggest concern. Chairman McNiel felt parking was not adequate. o issioner Chitiea did not want to see elimination of the park to add more parking. She did not feel the design was reflective of recent projects accepted in the Industrial Area. She felt the complex offers the City' the opportunity to make a statement about Rancho Cucamonga and she felt the proposed stadium design was generic and could be used anywhere. She ifelt there should be a statement of place, and pertaps the complex could tie in with the regional mall or Town Center.` Commissioner Blakesley felt' the stadium could be dressed up , such as Santa Anita. Commissioner Chitiea desired different design features on the plaza elevation fade. She, was not sure it would be possible to get away from the metal roof. Chairman McNiel felt the roof could be adequately hidden. Planning Commission Minutes - 1- December 13, 1989 Commissioner Chitiea stated the Rose Bowl has a certain character that fits i with Pasadena. She felt the sports complex should take design elements from the community. Commissioner Tolstoy did not like the color. Buller suggested the architects bring pictures of present stadiums. Chairman WNiel felt using one smooth, plane surface' from the first level up would be simple, clean, and tasteful . Buller stated at the treatment at the ground level may call for some structure to project out from the face of the building to provide shade. W. Schafer stated there were constraints in the area to allow enough room to et Fire Department requireme,nts. Chairman McNiel suggested that on the ends the fascia could be brought down or a low wall could be utilized. He asked the height of the stadium lights. . chafer stated they Mould probably be approximately 75 feet. Buller stated there is no standard in the Industrial Specific Plan for; ballfield lights. Chairman McNiel stated he thought the sports complex is a great concept, but he felt it is important to build the complex the same standards required of private projects. L. PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF RANCHO CUCAMONGAN PARK LI gR Y Joe Schultz stated that he felt there is a golden opportunity to secure a large grant in order to build the library. He stated the plans had to be submitted to the State Librarian by June 1 , 1990. He requested that the Planning Commission approve the tentative meeting schedule. He introduced Bob ueting, RJM Design Group, 27285 Las Ramblas, Mission` Viejo. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. eting gave a slide presentation on the concept and architectural theme of the Central Park Library complex. He stated that the state grant could fund up to 65 percent of the library facility. He stated they should not change plans' after submission to the State Librarian. He requested that the Commission review the' architectural concept Mans for the floorplans and elevations of the library and the other Omnicenter facilities. He stated at they would process through the Design Review process. reported that the office of the State Librarian has not finalized their requirements for what will be needed with the grant application, out has indicated that grant applications which are further along in the process would probably have a Planning Commission Minutes - - December 13, 198 better chance of funding. He stated he would like to workshop the project with the Planning Commission. Chairman McNiel stated workshops could be arranged. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the architect could meet the deadlines in the proposed schedule. eting responded they felt they could. He stated they were meeting with staff on December 14, regarding what each facility would contain, and he invited the Commission-members to attend. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the concepts were go Commissioner Weinberger stated a twenty-member citizens' committee had given direction on the library concepts and she felt that direction should not be changed. Commissioner Chitiea encouraged the architects to pay attention to the level of details to allow the project to reflect the vision of the community. She felt some elements i the design of the sports plaza i should perhaps be incorporated in the sports complex tie the two areas together thematically. Commissioner Weinberger felt the sports complex was a+ different type of facility and should not necessarily be similar. She was happy with the architectural concepts for the library. It was the consensus of the Commission to approve the processing schedule. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no further Commission business. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Weinberger, unanimously carried, to adjourn. 1: 0 A.M. Planning Commission Adjourned to a December 21, 1989 workshop at Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following Design Review to discuss Town Center Phase I . Planning Commission Minutes 3- December 1 , 199 ------- Respectfully submitted, rid B '1 Sep re ta r Planning Commission Minutes - 4- December 13, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Special Meeting November PB, 1989 Chairman Mc Niel called the Special Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at 'Lions' Park Community Center, 911 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Mc'Niel then led in the, pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blak sley, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Abbott Associate Planner; Brad Buller City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong , Senior Planner, Tom Crahn, Assistant Planner; Barry Manson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Manson, Deputy City Attorney; Brett Horner, Associate Planner; Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Betty Miller, Associate Civil ; Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City' Planner, announced that on December 6 the City Council would be hearing an appeal on the illegal carport on the corner of Arrow and Grove. Mr. Buller gave an update on the issue of annexation. He stated the City Council had a adopted a strongly stated Resolution of Intent to annex.. and requested that the County process all development in the Sphere through the City. He stated the Resolution had been forwarded to the County Board of Supervisors. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion. Moved by Blakesly, seconded by Chitiea,` unanimously carried, to adopt the minutes of November B, I989 as amended. CONSENT'CALENDAR A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89- - GILBERT'AJA The dev op nt two warehouse ldistribution bui dings totaling 305,400 square feet on 15.4 acres of land in the General Industrial "District, Subarea 11 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located south of 5th Street, east of Pittsburgh Avenue - : 229-253-22. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chiiea, unanimously carried, to adopt the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS B. MODIFICATIONS TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-35, ANO PAR L -' J. F. I DAVIDSONE request to modify the condition of approvalrequiring the un` ergr unding of utilities' along Base Line Road for the development of a shopping center and related Parcel Map at the northwest cornea of Base Line Road and Victoria Park Lane -w APN: 27-111-28, 34, and 35. (Continued from October 25, 1989.) Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, ' stated that a request had been received from the applicant to continue the item to December 1 , 1989. Chairman McN el opened the public hearing. . John Potter,; Hughes Investments, Two Corporate Plaza, Newport Beach, stated they had requested the continuance because they were trying to work out the details of the und'ergrounding with Southern California Edison and City staff. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blak sley, to continue Modifications to Conditions of Approval for Conditional Use Permit 88-35 and Parcel Map 11838 to December 13, 1989. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA,= MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER ES; CO ISION S: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 89-03A - CITY OF CUCAMONGA An amendment to the Housing MiKaR of the RiFcho C6-c-a--m--o--n-g-a--G6-n-e-r-aI Plan to delete an existing policy which limits the number of very low and low income subsidized housing units to 25 in any project. Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman MMcNiel asked if the amendment would put the City in compliance with state law. Planning Commission Minutes -2- November 29, 1989' Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated the amendment reflects current State law. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing . Hearing no testimony, the public ' hearing was closed. d i seconded b kel t the Resolution Motion; Move b Ch t ea seco e la e to o e_ es_ _ o_ approving Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 89-03A. Motion carried by the following votes AYES- COMMISSIONERS:S: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNI L, TCLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: NON -carried 0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 12596 - °NEIL ADLER TRAUSS A subdivision of 9. 52 acres of and into 4 parcels in the ecia�ity Commercial District of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located at the northeast corner of Vineyard Avenue and Foothill Boulevard - AP : 08-101- 1. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Commissioner Blkesley asked when the 'sidewalks would be redone. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Rudy Stroink, OAS' Investors , 2081 Business Center Give, Irvine, agreed with the conditions of the Resolution. He stated that Cal-Trans had told him two'! weeks ago that they would send him a letter outlining the conditions for changing the sidewalk. He said he had presented staff with 'a proposal for treatment around the fountain, which he felt would be brought to the Commission shorty . Russ Maguire,, City Engineer, stated.. the 'City has already sent Cal-Trans a' letter with the hold harmless agreement on the sidewalk. He stated' Cal-Trans' would approve the colored sidewalk, but it would take time. Chairman McNiel stated' there have been some concerns regarding the number of parking spaces at the center. r'. Stroink stated he had talked to the prospective tenant and the tenant; would not be at the hearing this evening;. He said they needed to further' study the prospective tenant mix and the 'parking situation. He said he had brought Pat Brown, the engineer, if the Commission had any questions. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 29, 1989' Commissioner Chitiea felt the division was straightforward and she supported i . Commissioner Tolstoy asked if each parcel would have ingress and egress from the street Mr. Hanson stated them was a reciprocal access easement. Chairman Mc Niel asked if there was a blanket parking easement as well . Dan Coleman, Principal Planner,' felt the question was adequately covered in standard condition A.5. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel' Map 12596. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS; RLAKESL,EY, CHITIEA MCNIEL, TDLSTDY, WEINBERGER COMMISIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried E.` ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL. MAR 1 263 - HUGHES ESTM ' INVENTS - A subdivision of .g a s o f and into parse s in the Neighborhood Commercial District of the Victoria Community Plan, located at the southeast corner of Highland and Milliken Avenues - APN: 7-011- 22. E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Dg- - HUGHES INVESTMENTS - The development of an integrated shopping center consisting of 11 buildings totaling 121 ,252 square feet on 12.9 acres of land in the Neighborhood Commercial` District of the Victoria Community Plan, located' at the southeast corner of Highland and Milliken Avenues - APN. -011- s; Brett Horner, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. He suggested removing planning condition S cal ling for authentic river rock to be used, as no stone work was proposed. Chairman Mc Niel asked if the proposal was at the minimum required parking for leasable space. Mr. Horner responded affirmatively, but stated that the parking calculations included parking for 6,000 square feet of restaurant use, and the 'restaurant space has not been leased, so they could> lease to less ' intensive users and have surplus parking available. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 29,' 1989 Can Coleman, Principal Planner, 'stated more parking-intense service uses had not been factored into the design. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the condition requiring authentic river rock could be left in the Resolution as a protective measure in case stem elements were proposed in the future . Mr. Varner suggested the wording could be changed to reflect that if any fieldstone eleffents are proposed, they must be authentic river rock .` Commissioner Chitiea felt the condition should remain. Commissioner Blakesley asked for clarification regarding the earthquake danger addressed in the environmental assessment. Mir. Horner stated the site lies within the City's Special Study Zone, which' was adopted because of the inferred 'Red Hill fault. He stated.'. test trenching was conducted and they found no evidence of recent faulting . Mir'. Coleman stated that other projects in the same vicinity have also found no activity, He stated there are known) faults above Etiwanda and known faults below Red Hill, and by drawing a straight line 'between them, it infers there may be a fau It in the area. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the problems of trucks turning off of Woodruff Place had been resolved. Mr. Hanson stated that the driveway had been widened out and redesigned. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the landscaping had been reduced. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that the redesign slightly increased the landscaped area. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Geoff Reeslund, SCPA Architecture and Planning , 260 in Street, Irvine, stated he represented the developer, Hughes Investments. He stated they were phased with the project and had worked for over a year. He discussed the design of the buildings. John Potter, Hughes Investments, stated they started the General Plan amendment year ago and they were very pleased with the concept worked out with the Design Review Committee. He questioned the need for Planning condition 7, which r u i res the tenant lease agreements to indicate the site falls within the City's adopted Red Hill fault zone. He stated he did not wish to unnecessarily alarm people. Mr. Coleman stated that it is a disclosure policy of the City's General Plan. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 29, 1989' Don Jackson, William Ly on Company, 8540 Archibald, Rancho Cucamong questioned the condition that required street improvements and and ian landscaping of Milliken Avenue from Base Line to Archibald, because he thought the improvements and median landscaping had already been completed and turned over to the City for maintenance. He felt the condition should reads from Victoria Park Lane to Highland. Mr. Maguire stated that the City has not accepted the street improvements and he wasn 't sure ifi the landscaping has been accepted., He stated the road still has to be signed, striped, and marked as a six-lane arterial . Mr. Jackson stated the William Lyon Company believes the roadway has been turned over to the City for maintenance. Mr. Coleman stated that condition 6 only applied to the project frontage. Mr. Maguire stated he didn't anticipate timeline problems . Mr. Jackson stated they anticipated pul ling permits in May or June 1990. Commissioner Tolstoy asked who would eventually construct the right turn lane for the freeway. Mr. Maguire stated the construction would be the responsibility of whoever builds the ramp. Jim Bailey, Wi ilia m Lyon Company, stated that they had a plan that had been approved by the City and they had already built the Milliken street improvements. He stated they did not wish to retrofit Milliken now because it had been built according to a City-approved plan. Mr. Maguire stated that the William Lyon Company's consultant cam in to the City and revised the street plans. He said the revised plans have been approved and the plans now only need to be executed. He said the plans predominantly involve signing, striping , a nd mark i ng to the six-lane configuration, Mr. Bailey stated that their engineer took it upon himself to change plans without advising the William Lyon Company. Mr. Maguire stated that the plan originally approved had only interim striping because it was a dead-end street. He said it was the City's opinion that the Victoria Community Plan had always called for Milliken to be a six-lane arterial . Mr. Bailey stated it was his understanding that they had already completed Milliken street improvements according to plan. However, he was willing to change the plan. He asked for the removal of condition 7, which required installation of a traffic signal at Highland and Milliken because the traffic signal was already budgeted for. Planning Commission Minutes -6- Noventer 29, 1989 Mr. Maguire suggested that the condition be rewritten to state the signal must be operational prior to occupancy. Chairman Mc Niel asked whether any walls or fencing were proposed along Highland or Woodruff. Mr. Horner stated no perimeter fencing was proposed. Mr'. Coleman 'stated that Highland Avenue will cease to exist at the location when the freeway is built, and the freeway will back up to the project. Commissioner Chitiea asked what type of fence Cal-Trans would erect. Mr. Coleman stated they would install chain link at their right;-of-way line. Chairman Mc Niel asked if the William Lyon Company had considered security fencing; along the freeway. Mr. Potter stated; that the site falls and the building would be below Highland Avenue.' He stated they proposed landscaping behind the buildings and treated the building architecturally to give a pleasing appeal, but they saw no security reason to build fencing... Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that typically Cal-Trans will put a chain link fence to identify their boundaries. Mr'. Potter stated than the chain link fence would not be visibly seen from the freeway b ec au se of the drop. Chairman Mc Niel asked if Cal-Trans would still install a chain link fence if the developer put in a wall . Mr'. Maguire stated that generally Cal-Trans will not duplicate a ' fence, so long as the fence is substantial. He felt a combination of block and heavy wrought' iron would be acceptable to Cal-Trans. Coleman stated that as the freeway is being locally funded, Cal-Trans will probably not landscape and any fencing would be seen. Mr. Maguire stated that the area would definitely be visible from the on-ramp. Mr. Reeslund stand that in the past they have built adjacent to Cal-Trans, right-of-way, and Cal-Trans has pint up a chain. link fence, because they do not want to be responsible for maintenance of the enhanced fencing .' Maguire stated he had been involved with projects where Cal-Trans did not double-fence. He said that if a fend was not: built, Cal-Trans would' definitely put in a chain link fence* Chairman McNiel stated that even if Cal-Trans placed a chain link fence next to one with pilasters and wrought iron, the masonry and wrought iron fencing would be more visibly noticed. Planning Commission Minutes -7- November 29, 1989 Mr. Bailey suggested calling a meeting with Cal-Trans to see what they would like. He cautioned against spending a lot of money at Cal-Trans ' boundaries because they may tear it out to build the freeway. Chairman McNiel suggested that the Resolution be conditioned that if nothing is resolved with Cal-Trans with regard to the fencing that a fence superior to chain link be built. Mr. Bailey suggested that staff approve the fencing . Mr. Potter stated that <there was no room to fence behind Alb ertson 's. Mr. Coleman suggested the fence be placed on top of the retaining wall . Mr. Potter stated that would be acceptable. Commissioner Chitiea stated the City needs assurances that whatever Cal-Trans installs will be compatible with the wall that the developer installs . Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea commended the architect on the evolution of the design of the project, particularly in relation to the plaza area. She appreciated the concern for quality shown by the developer and the architect. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89-08, with modifications to require that the traffic signal at Milliken and Highland be operational prior to occupancy, installation of a six-foot high masonry and wrought iron fence along Highland Avenue, and the use of authentic river rock materials if any fieldstone elements are proposed. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY , CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COWISSIONERS.- NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12263, with modification to require that the traffic signal at Milliken and Highland be operational prior to occupancy. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: C"ISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Planning Commission Minutes -8- November 29, 1989 G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 12848 - BARTON ivisi n of _6.SC acres 0_f___11and into 3 Parcels in the General Industrial District, Subarea 8 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the south side of Arrow Route between Utica and Red Oak Avenues - APN: 209-142-62. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Commissioner Blakesley asked if there was an access easement for the different parcels . Mr. Hanson responded affirmatively. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Dale Frisby, Barton Development Company, 10535 Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they took no exception to the staff report. He said that as each parcel would have its own driveway onto the parcel, there would be no need for an access and maintenance agreement; however, they planned to implement such an agreement so that the entire park would flow as one and would be consistently maintained. He stated that they preferred to utilize meandering sidewalks on Utica and Red Oak, whereas the condition as written stated that a minimum requirement would be for straight sidewalks. He stated that all the projects to the south have meandering sidewalks. Chairman McNiel stated the conditions should reflect that meandering sidewalks should be utilized. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Motion: Moved by Tolstov, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Enviror ntal Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12848, with modification to require meandering sidewalks on Utica and Red Oak. Motion carried by the following vote : AY ES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: C"ISS ION ERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried 8: 20 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 8: 30 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened Planning Commission Minutes -9- November 29, 1989 --------------- -,"" I H. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 89-02 POLO GROUNDS - A request to consider suspension or revocation of an entertain n permit approved for Harry C 's restaurant ( presently Polo Grounds) , located at 10877 Foothill Boulevard A PN: 208-352-10. Nancy Fong , Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Blakesley asked how often entertainment permits are normally rev iewed . Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that entertainment permits are renewed annual ly. Commissioner Blakesley asked when the subject permit should next be reviewed. Ms. Fong suggested that the permit could be reviewed in November 1991 . Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . John Ramsey, Polo Grounds , 10877 Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he submitted plans within two working days of the last meeting . He said the Fire Department returned the plans to him yesterday. He had three concerns about the Fire Department comments: 1) There appeared to be an addition error on the ceiling calculations. 2) They requested a complete building sprinkler plan, and he had submitted only the tenant improvement changes, whBch he felt should be adequate. He stated, if necessary, he could have a plan prepared and submitted within a month. 3) The plan check stated that fire extinguisher placement would be determined at time of final inspection. He said that Chief Almond had told him where he needed to locate the extinguishers and he would place them in those locations , and would object if the inspector wished to move any of the extinguishers. Mr. Ramsey further stated he would work with Brad Buller on the placement of bike racks . Ralph Crane, Rancho Cucamonga Fire District, stated that during the period of waiting ' for plans , the Polo Grounds had substantial comp I iance. He recommended the hearing be continued until full compliance was achieved. He said the Fire District requested the complete building sprinkler plans in writing in August. He said there had also been conversations with the fire protection company that the Polo Grounds had hired. Comissioner Blakesley asked if there had been any occupancy to violations. Mr. Crane stated the had only been one unsubstantiated complaint. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was tired of wasting the Commission 's time on this item. He said he was willing to allow one more continuance to achieve full compliance, but he would oppose any further continuances. He felt the applicant had had plenty of time to resolve the >situation. Planning Co fission Minutes -10- November 29, 1989 Chairman Mc Niel reopened the public hearing. Motion: Moved d by Bla esley, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Entertainment Permit 89-02 to January Its, 1990. Motion carried by the following vote : AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TCLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT B -18 - DIVERSIFIED - A request to modify a previously approved master plan for the Ue-velopnent of a fast foal restaurant pad in the Neighborhood Commercial District on the northeast corner of 'Haven and Highland -:APN. 20 - 71- 6 and 67. Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, presented: the staff report and presented a letter from Lucky Stores opposing the proposed parking configuration. He suggested adding a condition to the Resolution requiring approval from lucky Stages for the parking configuration shown in Exhibit A, but allowing the configuration shown in Exhibit B as an alternative. He discussed the parking options shown in Exhibits A and B. Chairman Mc Niel objected to the parking configuration shown in Exhibit B ` beeaise of four parking spaces along the driveway. He stated the City is not in the position to resolve any conflicts between the applicant, Lucky Stores, and the shopping center owner. He asked if the newly proposed condition protected the Cit,y's interest. Mr. Abbott stated that if the applicant could not get approval from Lucky Stares there would be no project.; Commissioner Tolstoy stated than when the item was reviewed in Design Review they requested a fence to block pedestrians from crossing in front of traffic. Mr. Abbott stated that the plan would be reviewed by staff during plan check and the fence would be verified at that time. Commissioner Blakesley asked if the authentic river rock was bung used. Oars Coleman stated the proposal called for La. Habra stucco stone, as used on the remainder of the shopping center. He said that the Design Review Committee recommended matching the materials to the rest of the center. Chairman McNiel opened the public' hearing . John O 'Meara, Diversified Shopping Centers, 2910 Red Hill, Costa Mesa, agreed with the staff report.. He felt' option A would be the best site alternative for the; project and thought; Ludy Stores would agree to the option. He felt Planning Commission Minutes - l- Novenber 29, 1989 � � .� &, l . �: . � a .. . f. s • - " � A s. "` M ark • � ! � i ! #e "° •• .®i '� . �, � � � �' e r w r 'Yp a « ! � � �. a N s! is s e " e� ! .. � .� � � Barrye Hanson , Senior Civil Engineer, stated the intent of the condition was not to require the developer to remove and replace existing landscaping , but rely to require that any new work should conform to the Haven Avenue landscaping . Chairman Mc Niel stated that the sidewalk , curb , and gutter were needed through' the freeway right-of-war even though'. it may not have been required of 'Union Ci l . Mrs. O'Meara stated that even though he did not grant to spend the money for the sidewalk , he realized it was a needed item and he was willing to build i . Chairman Mc Niel stated that regarding the median there would have been some normal escalations of costs since 1986. He felt it was the developer's responsibility to pay the $65,000 median costs without waiting for an invoice from the City. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that Mr-Donald 's does not stand alone. He said that when the parcels :.were created the on r final Parcel �➢ p g ace p called for the.. construction of the Haven median. He stated the next budding would also get the same conditions. He stated there is not agreement between the City and the developer regarding the events as they took place. He said the only legal document is a standard development construction agreeffent which states the developer shall build the median' and a surety bond was with it . He said 'there is no paperwork limiting the amount of the obligation orin-lieu fees He said the City can find no back up or paperwork that establishes such a limit. Mr. O 'Meara stated they have a plan signed by the City Engineer. Mr . Maguire stated there was nothing on the plan that stated an in-lieu fee would be paid instead of the median construction. He said that Engineering condition t was out of the hands of the planning Commission , as City Council has adopted an ordinance that orders Commissions, Committees , and staff to I.mandatorily condition any maps, building permits, or applications to pay;a set fee based upon cost. He said staff had 'explained to the developer that if they objected to the fee, they must approach the City Council . He stated that condition 2 could be modified by the Planning Commission. He stated that. the City had bid the section out and the bid came to a total project cost o $ 6 ,000. He said the City rejected the proposal because Cal-Trans was requiring certain items with the Highland/Haven reopening configuration and the City was having to shift Haven easterly, thereby wiping out a portion of the Haven median. He felt it would only be physically possible to build a few hundred feet of the median, instead of the projected'603 feet. Chairman Mc Niel stated that the burden of responsibility is on the entire project, not just; on McBonald's. Mr'. O'Meara stated he had no way of billing the other tenants in the center, as Lucky, pay Less , and Union Oil owned their sites. Hearing+ no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Planning Commission Minutes -13- Novenber 29, 1989 Chairman Mc Niel stated that when the center was ;being built, the costs should have been attached to the individual sites. He suggested rewording condition to require construction of the Haven Avenue median no further than Highland Avenue. Commissioners Ch idea,, Tolstoy, and Chit iea concurred with the rewording . Commissioner 'Chitiea felt site plan option g was unacceptable. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed and felt only option A should be considered. He felt option R was too much of an obstacle course. Commissioner Blakesley stated he was concerned with ; the layout because less than 60 percent of the parking spaces were available without crossing a major drive aisle for the whole ' shopping center. He did not wish to see kids traverse across a major drive aisle to reach the restaurant. He hoped them; was at least a landscape barrier between the central parking and the driveway to discourage walking through the drive through area to get down to the re stau rant. Commissioner Chitiea preferred some other alternative' if option A could not be, utilized. Buller asked if option A was not acceptable to Lucky Stores, if the Commissioners wished to have the alternate design returned to the full` Commission or if Design Review Committee approval would be acceptable . Chairman McNiel felt comfortable with Design Review Committee approval because the item would have to go; through technical review" prior to Design Review Committee' approval. Commissioners glakesle.y and 'Weinberger concurred:. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Slakeley, to adopt the Resolution` approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional' Use Permit 18, with modifications to require approval from Lucky Stores for site plan option A or w n i approved b Design � n Review Committee and to require construction an alternative apR y q of the Haven Avenue emod pan no further than Highland nd Avenue`. Motion carried b ! the following vote; AYES: COMMISSIONERS- A ESLE , CHITIEA, MCNIEL, 'I LSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT.` COMMISSIONERS. NONE -carried NEW BUSINESS Planning Commission Minutes -1 - November 29, 1989 J. MODIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-32 EL - A request to modify a condition of approva requiring surety the removal the existing detention basin and construction of a storm drain facility for a development on 1 .55 acres in the General Industrial District, ;Subarea 14 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at the southern terminus of Hyssop Drive north of 4th Street - APN 9- 310 . Betty Miller, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel asked if the condition were removed if there would be any leverage to require anyone to remove the basin. Miller responded there would be no way` to force removal of the basin Chairman McNiel invited public comment . John Nelson, Nelson Development Company, 18 North Central, Upland, stated he felt the cost of removing the detention basin ;should be 'shared by the owners' of all ;eight lots in Parcel Map 7349. He felt the removal of the detention' basin was provided for under Section 3 of the Engineer's Report for Landscape Maintenance District No. J, as accepted by City Council Resolution 83-152. He also thought the that the assessments for the area could be adjusted under Sections 4 and 7. 6 of the Engineer's Report.. He stated that the ity's position that the removal of the detention basin was not maintenance was discussed at the time the original application' was processed, but he did not feel the issue had been resolved. Chairman McNiel asked if the basin is on Mr. Nelson 's property. Mr. Nelson responded affirmatively. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that the ity's position is that the "repair, removal or replacement of all or any part of any improvement, to include landscaping, detention basin, .. . ' applies only ;to maintenance,`i such as a catch basin being run over by a truck and damaged. He stated the intent of the Landscape Maintenance District' was for maintenance, not the filling in of a detention basin. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that there were discussions with the applicant 's attorney, and the City atirney's opinion was that the removal refers to removal of debris , not the entire detention basin. Commissioner Ch itiea stated' there was no means. to go back and access the other property owners in the area a fair portion of the cost of removal of the basin. Chairman McNiel stated it would not be possible to determine a fair portion, as when the applicant purchased the property, he bought the piece of ground' including the detention basin. He did not feel it would be fair' to assess other property owners to fill in the detention basin area, thereby improving the applicant's property to a developable state... Planning Commission Minutes -1 - Noverfber 29, 1989 Mr. Nelson stated the hearing was not to talk about fairness , but about legalities of what the report states. There were no further public comments. Commissioner Tolstoy asked when the detention basin would become obsolete. arrye Hanson responded the basin would become obsolete when Day Creek Channel is constructed up to that outlet. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner stated the; basin was part of the old parcel map. Chairman McNiel felt the purchase price of the property would have reflected the encumbrances thereon. Commissioner Rlakesley felt that both Section 3 and Section 4 of the Engineer's Report referenced maintenance-type activities , and he saw no connection with the abandonment and filling in of the detention basin. Commissioner Chitiea geed and reiterated that the heading reflected it was a` Maintenance District. Motion* Moved by Dlakesldy, seconded by Tolstoy to adopt the Resolution decrying Modification to Development Review S ® . Motion carried by the following vote : AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA EStEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBE ER ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NE carried DIRECTOR IS REPORTS K. CONSIDERATION FOR AMENDMENT TO SUBAREA 2 OF THE INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN F R THE DEEETI N OF H' EXT N ON I.OW ' T AND X -PORTION OF THE EX TEN I N O N V N EN AND EAST O N EY D A N E' - A , : Tour Oran, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Rlakesley asked if there was any detail of the proposed project, . Orahn stated that the project was stir in the initial phases of submittal and has not been accepted as complete. Commissioner Rlaksley asked why the item was presently being reviewed. Planning Commission Minutes -1 - November 29, 1989 Mr. Crahn stated that the applicant 'submitted 'a request to develop the site and part of the request was to delete the streets. lie stated that state law provides that an amendment to the circulation element of a specific plan may only be initiated by the Planning Commission or City Council . Commissioner Tolstoy asked if Feron would be brought west to Hellman. Mr' Hanson responded affirmatively. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he wanted to see an analysis of the proposed changes. It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to direct staff to initiate a study to consider an Amendment to Subarea 2 of the Industrial Specific plan for the deletion of the extension of Flower ; Street and a portion of the extension of Feroh Bou l evard. L. THE PR FO SAL TO ESTABLI SH DESIGN FOLIC IES REQUIRING ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURPL TREATM-EN�_—ANU ALTERNATIVE TERTOORE BUILDING INDUSTRIAL ILDINC WITRIN THE IN d RIAL P I I AN Nancy Fong , Senior Planner, ;presented the staff report. Commissioner Tolstoy asked how the policy would be presented' to applicants` making submittals Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the policy ; would be distributed to applicants as early in the process as possible. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the policy should perhaps goo further. He felt more emphasis should be placed on a focal point. Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated the policy touched on building articulation, but she felt it should refer to the movement of the planes' of the building to reflect variation .. Mr. Buller suggested that the Commissioners should alert the staff when they see a building they like. Staff could than go take a picture and compile a photo album. Vice-Chairman Chitiea' stated she had architectural magazines that someone could look through. Commissioner Blakesley felt the policy was good because it stresses variety in the plane and the appearance of the building materials. He suggested the goal' statement should not state building materials other than concrete, because concrete is acceptable if used creatively. Planning Commission Minutes -17- November 29, 1989 Commissioner Tolstoy felt there should be a statement to alert the developer that the Commission is looking for more than a token focal point at the entrance. Commissioner Blakesley stated that if the building is composed of small suites, one strong entrance would not be viable. Commissioner Tolstoy felt a multi-tenant building should have a number of focal points, one for each tenant. m N'` l stated i Chairman °we a ed that at times large buildings are built as single- tenant buildings, but are later leased out asmulti -tenant -=buildings. He asked what process the developer would have to go through to modify the building for multiple tenants. Mir. Buller stated that interior changes require approval of planning staff and building and safety staff. He stated exterior changes would require a minor devel,opment 'review with staff approval unless staff determines that the alterations are significant, at which time they can bring the item to the, Planning Commission. Chairman M1cNiel suggested that any time an 'additional tenant use is introduced that the project should core back through the design review process, Commissioner Chitiea stated that the; applicant would not be able to go back and knock off a corner of the building to create an entry statement if additional tenants came in later. Commissioner Blakesley felt the policy was appropriate as written. ` He liked the idea of the scrapbook with examples. Mtr. Buller felt it was better to leave a more flexible, open approach. Commissioner Chitiea felt concrete could be used with creativity. Chairman Mc Niel felt the policy ` as appropriate as written because the goal encouraged the use of something other than concrete, while concrete was listed under bath the recommended primary and secondary building materials. Commissioner Chitiea felt brass and copper should be added to the ;listing of secondary building materials. Chairman McNiel felt perhaps some commentary could be added with respect to secondary entrances. Mir. Buller felt it would be appropriate to state that all entrances shall be sensitive to users. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that the Resolution should be reworded and: returned at the next meeting. Planning Commission Minutes -18- November 29, 1989 It was 't consensus of the Planning Commission that the Resolution should be returned to the December 13, I989 meeting for further consideration. M. XERISCAPE DPD IN ANC E Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, stated that the Ordinance would be returning to the Planning Commission for public hearing on December 13, before being fo a rd ed to City Cou nc i I . Commissioner Blakesley asked if the Ordinance would apply to public or private land. r. Coleman responded it would pertain to landscaping on private land. COMMISSION BUSINESS N. STATUS OF PARKING SITUATION AT THO AS WINERY PLAZA LOCATED AT NORTHEAST CORNERFOOTHILL= L 1t RD I N D N Brad Buller, Senior Planner, suggested the Commission could receive and file the report. He referred to a letter from the property owner requesting that the item be considered only after they had completed a parking 'study. Chairman McNiel felt that perhaps the Commission should have developers specify a building for potential elimination or reduction in size if they later decide; to introduce a parking-intense use. He felt the City's parking requirements are not too stringent. Commissioner Blakesley stated that developers often paint themselves into a corner to maximize floor space. '. Buller stated that the City has not done an analysis of shopping centers,' but it is seldom that the parking is coaxed out. Commissioner Blakesley stated he appreciated the other side r the coin , _a_rd did not wish to devote more space than necessary to parking lots , but he felt that when some of the centers are totally leased out, there will e p ark ing problems. Commissioner Chitiea asked who was responsible for making sure: that developers restore sites to their original condition following trenching for seismic studies. She stated that trenches are sometimes hundreds of feet long', the rubble is dumped on the side , and trails are disrupted. She said the pits are dangerous. She stated she had traveled in areas months after the trenches are dug , and the debris still blocks trails. Planning Commission Minutes -19- November 29, 1989 Ban Coleman, Principal Planner, stated developers hire geologists to perform the studies and save money by not; paying the geologists to backfill the trenches. He said under stag law the City is obligated to have its own geologist review those reports and comment on the environmental review. He, said one possibility would be to have the City hire the geologist to do the trenching at the developer's expense. The City could then make backflling part of the contract. He felt another possibility would be to require a grading permit for trenching , but it would probably require some changes to the grading ordinances. He felt if a grading permit were required, backfilling could be required as part of the permit process. Commissioner Weinberger updated the Commission on the status of the library. She stated that a grant application needs to be submitted on the 'library b June I . She stated that the design consultant has presented the design concepts to the library subcommittee, and the library was proposed as a ,000- C,000 square foot facility, but it is felt an BQ, CC square foot library would be more appropriate. Commissioner Chitiea felt that because the exterior of the building was now being addressed, a Planning Commission subcommittee should be selected to address architectural concerns. Chairman McNiel agreed that a subcommittee should be formed to give input. Brad Buller, City Planner,; stated that there would`be a` presentation at the next Planning Commission meeting regarding the library and the sports complex. He stated that feedback would be appreciated. It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that Betsy Weinberger and Carry McNiel would form a subcommittee on the library. Commissioner Chitiea felt that considering the 'importance of the facility and the amount of architectural ingredients, it was necessary that the Commission submit comments early. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn. MCC P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned Planning Commission Minutes - - November 29, 1989 Respectfully submitted, qBrad Bu�ll l ruing Commission Minutes ' - - November 29, 19 November 28, 198 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA CITE" COUNCIL MINUTES Jon `: Meetin wit the Ra cho ucamon a Planning o ission A. G&TA ER A joint meeting of the City Council and Planning Commission of the City of Rancho Cucamonga met on Tuesday, November 28, 1989, in the Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Rase Line Round, Rancho Cucamonga, California. The meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Mayor Dennis L. stout. Present were oun ilmembers.: William J. Alexander (left at R: 5 p.m . ) , Deborah N. Brown, Charles J. Buquet II (arrived at 6:44 p.m. ) , Pamela J. Wright', and Mayor Dennis L. Stout. Present were Planning Commissioners: David Elakeslay, SuzanneChitiea, Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger, and Chairman Larry McMiel. Also present, were: Jack Lam, City Manager; Linda D. Daniels, Deputy city Manager; Rick Gomez, Community Development Director; Jan Reynolds, Assistant RDA Analyst; Brad Buller, city ;Planner; Otto Kroutil, Deputy City Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Russ; Maguire, City Engineer; Joe Stcfa, Associate Civil Engineer,- Laura Rbana.cco si, Landscape Designer; Cindy Hackett, Contract Engineer, Jerry Grant, Building Official; Jim Martin, Plan Check, Coordinator; Patty Riffel, Executive Assistant; Jim Frost, City 'Treasurer; and Debra J. Adams, City Clerk. B. ITEMS OF DISCUSS1014 Jack Lane, City Manager, outlined the items to be discussed at the meeting;. He presented slides of the site and; gave statistics on the shopping center'. He presented slides on the conceptual design of the shopping center. He presented information on the improvements to take place to get ready for the mall.. He also gave timeframes for completing the project, with total completion to be dame is 1992. Jack Lam, City* Manager, turned the meeting over to Dan Felix of the Hahn Company. Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, thanked the City for the' opportunity to have this meeting, and to be able to get the necessary information from the City Council and the Planning Commission in carder to go forward with this project. He introduced Duncan sudinger, Project Manager, and Bill DeEiel, architect from The t City Council/Planning Commission Minutes November 28, '198 Page Jerde Partnership. Air. Felix told how shopping centers are put together. He stated the reason the meeting was delayed knack in September was because they wanted to expand the first phase of building for the shopping center, and had gone back to Jerde and asked them to do this because they realized the Cit y had and was growing _ so much. Dan Felix, the Mahn company, turned the meeting over to Bill De iel, architect, who;gave background on his company and all the shopping centers his company has been involved with He stated they did take a look at this 60 days ago to re- evaluate the plan in order to make it a better project. He stated there will be the community side and the regional side of the shopping center, and stated that the major stores can be moved around in order to accomodate them. He explained how the parking would be designed, and how the access would be designed leading into the mall as it relates to the various igrade levels. He talked ,about the water features within the shopping center, and how the various levels open up to this. Can Felix, the Mahn Company, Mated the slides that are being presented, tonight are not what will actually be in the Rancho Cucamonga mall, but they ;are being shown to get ideas from the City as to 'what they like and do not like, so they will know what, to present to the Planning Commission in February. Jack Lam, City Manager, stated that unless the City Council specifically wanted to, they will not see the design of the shopping center until after ,it has been approved by the Planning Commission. Mayer Stout stated that one concern of his was the connection from the shopping center into the Victoria Lakes project.' more discussion followed regarding the connection of these two properties. commissioner Tolstoy asked what was the reason the majors were not in favor of the water, Dan Felix, the: Hahn Company, stated it� was mainly the liability aspect. Mayor Stout asked if there was still to be community space in the shopping center. Jack Lam,' City; Manager, stated yes", there would be. chairman McNiel stated he felt the City should let them known what` architectural style this project ishould be.° commissioner Chitiea stated she felt some of the Italian, etc. , architecture that was previously' included should still remain. Chairman McNiel stated he felt Horton Plaza was a very; trendy* shopping center, and; felt the Victoria Gardens mall should not be designed that way. `'I City Council/Planning Commission on Minutes November 28, 18 Page Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated he felt "timelessness" was an important aspect of the shopping center. Councilwoman Wright stated she did not feel this should be a generic shopping center either. Sill DeEiel, architect, rotated it would not be Commissioner Chitiea stated that in their tour of Horton Plaza they noticed the quality';of material used, and felt this was very important for a Rancho Cucamonga shopping center. Councilwoman Wright asked if this was a covered mall. Darn Felix, the Hahn Company, stated it was a climate controlled mall, but that the food court was both inside and out. Councilwoman Wright asked if they have 'taken the wind factor into consideration. Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated they would investigate` this. Commissioner Chitiea felt they should be sensitive of the design both inside and out, and also added she felt the noise factor should be considered so that the shoppers will be more relaxed. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he liked the idea of curves within a shopping center, that he did not like a long, straight look. Commissioner Weinberger stated she really liked the vain place in Santa Ana. Mayor Stout stated traffic circulation should also be considered to handle built- out circulation* Councilwoman Wright stated easy parking should be considered, and further stated this will be one thin that is l at 9 in February as to how the shopping center will fit with the City circulation plan for this area. Councilman Buquet added he is verb concerned with traffic circulation. Haan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated they are sensitive to these concerns. Councilman Hu et stated he does not want the shopping center to look like the shopping center in San Bernardino. He further stated, he is also concerned about` the wind. factor. Councilwoman Brown stated her concern was how the Victoria Lakes project would fit in with the shopping center. Councilwoman Wright stated she felt everyone should be sensitive to the access to both the Victoria Lakes project and the regional mall. City Council/Planning Commission Minutes November 28, 1989' Page Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated if the City does not want them to connect to the Victoria Lakes project, they should state this to him. councilwoman Brown stated she felt Councilwoman Wright had a good point, and expressed her concerns for the parking situation. .lack Lam, City Manager, stated he did not see the City approving anything that did not have adequate parking available. Councilman Alexander stated he liked the idea of the shopping center not beingi trendy, and ; felt the idea of pride was very important and the idea of conservation in all areas should be considered. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was disappointed in not seeing any underground or covered parking. Councilman Buquet felt the idea of leveled parking should also be considered. Councilman Alexander left the meeting at 8:25 p.m. Chairman McNeil stated he did not want to see a "sea of asphalt" as the site plan now showed, and concurred with what Commissioner Chitiea had suggested, such as the underground or covered parking. Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated they are aware of the City's' standards, and will work with the City on this. He commented that structure parking is; very' expensive. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if such things as skating rinks were part of the plan.' Dan Felix, the Mahn Company, stated that in recent ;years, they have not put skating rinks' in shopping centers. Commissioner Tolstcy asked if daycare centers were to be a part of the shopping center. Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated they will work on this issue, which would be considered in the amenity package. Chairman McNeil stated he had concerns regarding the "regional side" and the "Community side*, and did not want one side to have to be sacrificed. Dan' Felix, the Hahn Company, stated this would not occur. Jack Lam, City Manager, added that: in 984 1985 thane was a traffic study taken., and added that there will be a new traffic study accomplished. E. City Council/Planning commission Minutes November 28, 1989 Page 5 Commissioner Chitiea commented she felt the view of Cucamonga Peak should be considered in the view of the design. Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated they are trying to put together something that the majors will like, but that they do net want to have a situation where the tail is wagging the dog.; Councilman Hu' et stated he is disappointed with the amount of time it has taken to get this far. He felt a firm commitment should be made in order to get this to move 'forward. Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, stated they would like to bring the amended plans back in February. Jack Lam, City Manager, stated he would like this to come back in mid-February t the latest. Dan Felix, the Hahn Company, added they plan to open with four major stores, with the other two following'. C. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC There were no communications for the Council or the Planning Commission. D. ADJOURNMENT The Planning Commission adjourned at C a.m. The CityCouncil to ok k , � x teases at_ �l.5 .€�. and w p � would adjourn to a special meeting following the recess. Respectfully submitted, Debra J. Adams City Clerk Approved by Planning Commission: January 10, 1990 Approved by City Council; January 17, 1990 iI i I CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 22,' 1989 The regularly scheduled meeting of November 22, 1989 was canceled due to a' lack of quorum. Respectfully submitted, *Brad a er Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 8, ?1989 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City ' of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission ission to order at .UU P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 8161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California.` Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of 'allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS- PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne 'Chit ea, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger ABSENT; None STAFF PRESENT: Vince Bertoni, Assistant Planner; Brad Buller, ; City Planner-, Dan Coleman,` Principal Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Brett Horner, Associate Planner; Russ Maguire, City Engineer, Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, Bail Sanchez, Secretary; Alan warren, Associate Planner ANNOUNC84ENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the Planning' Commissioners were invited to to go a field trip to visit USC and UCLA on Monday, November 13, 1989 in conjunction with reviewing sports complexes. . Buller announced that there would be a workshop following Design Review on Thursday, November 16 1989 to review buildings X and Y' in the Terra Vista Town Center at Foothill and Haven. Mr. Buller announced there would be a joint meeting of the City Council and Planning Commission regarding the Regional Mall on November 28, 1989. Mr. Buller minded the Commissioners that the second Planning Commission meeting in November 1 woo d be on Wednesday, November `t instead ead of the normally scheduled second Wednesday. Mr. Buller stated there would be a joint meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission and the Planning 'Commission on the fifth Wednesday in January.' Mr.' Buller announced that staff would be meeting with the project architect' for the Target building to review the final palette of materials on the site at 8:40 p.m. on Thursday, Noventer g. Mr. Buller Announced that the applicant for Item G had requested that the item be continued until January 10 1989. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, carried with Dlaesle abstaining , to adopt the minutes of October 25, 199 CONSENT CALENDAR A. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 12659-2, 3. AND 4 - NEWTON REALTY - A residential subdivision of sing e farm' y bts and common lots on 67.67 acres of land in the Very Lowy Residential District (1-2 dwelling units per acre) of the Etiwanda Specific Plan, located at the southwest corner of Etiwanda Avenue and 24th Street - >A : 5-01.1.-35 b D. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13565 PHASES' 6 A - STANDARD P I - The design reviews of bu'i ding e e'vatio s and detai ed site Plan for Phases 6,' 7, and D; of a previously County-approved map consisting o 125 single family lots on 55.7 acres of land north of Summit Avenue and east of Wardman Bullock Road - AP : 6- -16, 17, and 27. Commissioner Chitiea requested that Item N be removed for ;discussion. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried to adopt Item A of the Consent Calendar. B. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 1355 JPHASES 6 AND D - STANDARD PACIFIC Commissioner Chitiea asked if colored renderings were available. Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, presented the colored renderings. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the changes requested at Design Review were shown on the renderings. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Kevin Pdhlson, Standard Pacific, stated the changes have been made, but had not been submitted to Design Reviews as yet. Chairman McNiel stated the Resolution was conditioned to require Design Review approval of the changes prior to 'issuance of building' permits . Commissioner Chitiea asked if the Design Review Committee was satisfied with the garage doer designs as presented. Planning Commission Minutes - - November S,' 199 i Chairman McNiel and Commissioner Blakesley concurred that they Commissioner Chitiea stated she was satisfied with the colored renderings® Chairman Mc Niel stated them was to be more stone work on the chimneys and wrought iron was added to the Santa Barbara plan. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the garage doors were one color. Mr. Pohlson responded affirmatively. There were no further public comments. Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Elakesley, unanimously carried, to adopt Item 8 of the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 89-O C - FUTURE ESTATE, INC. - 'request to amend the nera an Land Use Rap from Office to Medium Density Residential 8 14 dwelling units; per acre)i for 3.556 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Church Street, The City will also consider Neighborhood Commercial and Low Medium Density Residential as appropriate alternative' designations. APN 1077-33 - 6. (Continued from October 25, 1989.) O. ENVIRONMENTAL 'ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 89-04 - FUTURE IN . request to n t e Oeve dp nt istricts Wap o w 0 Office/professional) to "M" (Medium Density, 8-14 'dwelling units per acre) for 3.556 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Church Street, The City will also consider 'INC" (Neighborhood Commercial) and "LM" (Low Medium) as appropriate alternative districts. `' APN:i 10 7-33 - 6. (Continued, from October '25, 1989.) Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report` and stated that the applicant had still not finalized' a school mitigation agreement . Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Max Williams, Williams Architects, Inc. , 276 North Second Avenue, Upland, stated they had not been able to reach an agreement with the school districts because of the need for involvement of both the buyer and the seller of the property. He asked that the item be continued until the first General Plan cycle in 1990. Mr. Williams asked for guidance from; the Commission regarding alternate land use designations and stated they may present the design review in conjunction with the General Plan ` Amendment' and the Development District Amendment. Planning Commission Minutes - - Novenber 8, 1989 Chairman Mc Niel asked if there we,re prob lems created bec au se of the involvement of the seller. Mr . Williams stated that the seller, as the legal owner of the property, has to sign the school district agreement, and the seller and buyer were still negotiating regarding the payment of the fees. Kent Justice, Future Estate, Inc. , stated the seller had been on vacation for a month and they had scheduled a`meeting with the seller the next day. Commissioner Weinberger felt it would be appropriate the continue the item. Motion: Moved by Blakesley to deny the project without prejudice. Motion failed for lack of a second. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 89-02C and Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 89-04 to the first General Plan cycle in 1990 and to direct staff to readvertise the item. Motion carried by the following vote : AY ES: COMM ISSIO NER S: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE - carried * * * * * I E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 89-01 - WMERF PROPERTIES - A 'request to change various sc-156o, trail; and park site designations to allow the establishment of auto service stations and mint warehouse uses, subject to the Conditional Use Permit process, along major arterials ; to delete a portion of Orchard Avenue; and to update the Landscape Design Guidelines and land use maps to reflect previous project approvals and "as-built" conditions - APN: 227-151-08, 13 , and 14; 1077- 421-01, 16 and 18; and 1077-091-36. (Continued from October 25, 1989.) Brett Horner, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and outlined the changes requested by the Trails Committee: 1. The trail located north of Church Street at Poplar Drive should remain as originally proposed. 2. The new trail location proposed north of Church Street and east of Terra Vista Parkway should also be provided. 3. The trail located on the east side of Terra Vista Parkway and Mountain View Drive should be relocated to the interior of the school site . Planning Commission Minutes -4- November 8, 1989 4. The primary and secondary nodes, as depicted on the conceptual exhibit presented by the applicant, should be ;provided where trails terminate at the perimeter of Terra Vista. . Special 'attention should be paid to insure safe street crossings, ' that trails align properly as they doss streets , and that special enhanced paving be employed where trails doss streets. . The possibility of signing or striping an on-street bike lane along Terra Vista Parkway and Church Street should be investigated'. Commissioner Tolstoy thought the mini -storage use should not be deleted from the plan. Commissioner Chitiea agreed that it was her understanding that mini-storage locations be limited, but not eliminated. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if mini-storage would include RV parking . rad Buller, City Planner, stated that it may include RV parking . Chairman McNiel felt any mini-storage ,should have facilities for RV parking . Commissioner Tolstoy felt that RV parking should be in close proximity to Terra Vista, as the residents would need RV storage* Buller stated that the applicant had suggested the mini -storage category be withdrawn following the debate over locations at the last meeting. He said the applicant spoke of the valve of the land and said the land was so expensive that it no longer made economic sense. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the category should remain and felt the applicant could carefully select an area where the use would be appropriate. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Don Thompson, Luis Homes, recommended that the mini-storage category should remain in the plan. He felt the requirement for a Conditional Use Permit should be sufficient to satisfy the Commission that an appropriate location world be selected. He stated that currently residential land is worth more than recreational vehicle storage land, but economic conditions may change and mini -storage use could again make economic sense. Chairman McNiel felt the category should remain because it would be a valuable service for the community. Mr.' Thompson agreed with the recommendations of the Trails Committee. Chairman Niel felt the recommendation for a bike path was a good idea. Planning Commission Minutes - November g, 1989 Ban Coleman, Principal Planner, stated Engineering would have to verify that the street is wide enough. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated Engineering would investigated Commissioner Chitiea felt the relocation of some of the trails as discussed at the Trails Committee made more sense. She felt it was particularly important that enriched paving be used everywhere the trail crosses -a street . Commissioner Tolstoy thanked the applicant for the concept of the primary and secondary nodes and felt they were an excellent idea. Chairman Mc Niel asked if there had been any discussion about the width of the; greenbelt* Tom Dellaquila, Lewis Homes, stated that 40 feet is the -actual minimum width planned. He said that gust west of the tunnel at Milliken the greenbelt expands to 1.50 feet wide. He felt the nodes should be added and stated they had worked with the Parks Commission. Hearing no farther testimony, the public hearing was 'closed. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he hoped the street width wound allow for a class B bike trail . Commissioner Weinberger asked if the Trails Committee tee co nd tions were unanimous. Commissioner Chitiea responded that the Trails Committee members all felt> comfortable with their recommendations. Motion: Moved by Tdlstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Terra Vista Community Plan B -01, with modifications to the trails as proposed by the Trails Committee. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES; COMMISSIONERS: AESLE , CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TQLSTY, WEINBERGER ES: COMMISSIONERS, PONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE - carried F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 - 7' - VALLEY ALANU C109 - The request to establish meeting space for an A coho ics Anonymous group in a leased space of 2,440 square feet within an existing industrial park on 5.7 acres of land in the General Industrial District, Subarea 7 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at 10980 Arrow Route, #107 and 108 A 08- S - 1.. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 8, 1989 Vince 5ertoni, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel felt the organization was a good one and he welcomed their desire to locate in the commu nit, . He opened the public hearing . James Porter, 9586 Devon, Cucamonga,; stated they wished to move from their; current' location ;in Ontario because their lease was expired and the proposed location is a better facility. Chairman McNiel asked the function of ;the clubhouse. Mr. Porter stated the clubhouse would be a membership club used for social functions and playing pool by members and their guests. Chairman McNiel asked the projected number of patrons. Mr. 'Sertoni stated they estimated 10- 5 people per meeting, but they generally only have approximately 2 members using ;the clubhouse facility at any one t i one. Chairman McNiel questioned the potential parking conflicts. Mr. 5ertoni stated a condition was included to limit the meetings to 25 people between 3:00 A.M. and 5: 30 P.M. on weekdays to mitigate future parking concerns. He stated the center is not yet fully leased and the remainder of the center would have to be leased out at'a 1/400 parking ratio, which would include multi -tenant use with office use not urger than of the square fo otag e Commissioner 3lakesley asked if the applicant had selected the area because it is remote. Porter stated their board preferred to be is lte . 3ertoni Mated he had contacted both the Sheriff 's and Fire departments to see if they objected to an isolated use such as this ,; and they did not, Hearin no further testimony, the public hearing s closed. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the location of the existing deli in relation to the proposed use, and determined 'there should not be a parking conflict between the two uses, Commissioner Chitiea felt the " only possible parking conflict would be from 1:00 P.M. to ' t30 P.M. and the item could be returned for review if complaints arise. She supported the use. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was a use needed in every community, and so lung as the applicant was comfortable with the location, he supported the use. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 8, '; 1989 Commissioner Weinberger supported the project even though ,she felt a community center atmosphere might be more appropriate. Commissioner Blakesley concurred with Chairman McNiel 's opinion of the organization and stated he was happy to have them in the community. Moved by Chitiea', seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution ; approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 88- 7 Motion carried by the following vote. AYES: COMM I SSIO NERS: BLA ESLEY , CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE - carried D. ENVIRONMENTAL ` ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 1733 - DLENF - A subdivision of 6: 9 acres of lard into 2 parcelsin__th___e___In_d_j_it_ri_aT Pare Development District and Haven Overlay District, Subarea 6 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Acacia Street - A - 1-01. Chairman McNel reiterated that the applicant wished to continue the item to the first muting in January. He opened the public nearing . There were no public comments. Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, to continue Environmental ntal Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12733 to January 10, 1990. Motion carried by the following quote. AYES: COMMISSIDNERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTQY, WEINBERGER ES: COMMISSIONERS: NE ABSENT: COMM I IO NER S: NONE carried H. MODIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW - D'IIDNN L MSTRO - A m ification to a `previous it approved' sean p an building evations for; an industrial warehouse/ma facturing building totaling 77,757 square feet on 5.94 acres of laird in the Minimum ` Impact Heavy Industrial District, Subarea 9 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the south' side of Arrow Route at Milliken Avenue - APN: 8-111- 3. Vince Berton , Assistant Planner, presented the staff" report. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 8, 1989 James R. Westling, partner of O'Donnell Armstrong , in response to a question from Commissioner Tolstoy, stated that they planned to use specimen-size trees. Commissioner Chitiea asked the type of trees and expressed concern that when the trees were grown they would not screen the doors. r Westling stated that Jersey Boulevard is about 12 feet lower than the slab of the building , and traveling east the differential between Jersey and the building slab is about 5 feet. He felt the average driver would not see the truck doors when traveling west on Jersey. He indicated on-site visitors would see the doors. Coleman Mated there would also be berming and shrubbery under the trees to lessen the impact of the doors. There were no further public comments. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the shrubs should grow to the bottom of the tree' skirt. Commissioner Chitiea supported the project with changes to provide for taller landscape material subject to City Planner approval . Commissioner Tolstoy wanted to insure that proper landscaping was selected to preclude drivers on Jersey Boulevard from viewing the doors. Commissioner Blakesley= felt the view corridor opportunities were minimal, but he supported the direction of the Commission. Lion} Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution approving Modification to Development Review 88-36, with modification to provide for sufficient shrub massing to screen the loading area to the satisfaction of the City Planner. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: i BLA EISLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLST Y, WEINBER ER HUES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NON - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS Julian Montes, 435 East Virginia Avenue, Glendora, stated his daughter wishes to establish a beauty salon in the Thomas Winery center, but ;has run into a parking problem. He said the regulations call' for three parking spaces per station. He said he had surveyed ten cities and the most stringent requirement called for 2.5 paving places per station. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 8,' 1989 Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the developer had originally planned the shopping center for two to 'three restaurants , and planned the remainder of the parking for standard retail uses, which do not have such a high parkin demand. He said he had requested that the developer show evidence that the City's parking requirements for a beauty salon were excessive. He said the requirements apply to all other centers in the City. Ralph Hanson stated the item was an off-agenda item and the appropriate action for the Planning Commission would be to direct staff to work with the applicant and schedule the item for a' future meeting . Chairman McNiel requested staff to investigate and contact Mr. Monttes. Tammy Montes, stated she had trouble finding any mall location within the City because of the parking requirement. felt three parking places per station was outrageous. Mr. Buller stated that staff would meet with -Mr. Montes to investigate the situation. He asked if the Planning Commission requested a report at the November 9 meeting . Chairman McNiel requested a report back on the status of the discussions with the applicant regarding the, parking situation at the Thomas Winery location. COMMISSION BUSINESS Brad Buller, City Planner, asked if any Commissioners were interested in the field trip to USC and UCLA on Monday, November 13. The Commissioners stated they would not be available . ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger, unanimously carried, to adjourn. R C P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to a November 16, 1989 workshop at Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center at 8:00 P.M. following Design' Review to review Buildings X and & in the Terra' Vista Town Center. e sp t fu l ly submitted, A e Brad Bul er Secretary Planning Commission Minutes _ a- November 8, 1989 CITY DE RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 25, 1989 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order a :00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park' Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitie , Larry McNiel, Peter I Tolsto , Betsy Weinberger ABSENT: David Blakeley STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, Dan Coleman, Principal' Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph' Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner ; Brut Horner, Associate Planners' Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil ;Engineer°, Russ i Maguire, City Engineers Cindy Norris , Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that staff had received a request from the applicant to continue Item L' to November 29, 1989, Mr. Buller announced the applicant had appealed to City; Council the October 11, 1989 Planning Commission denial of Minor Development Review 69- . Mr. Buller announced that at the end of tonight's meeting he would' be asking the. Commissioners if they wished to take a joint field trip with City Council to visit water treatment plants. Mr. Buller stated' he would later poll the Commissioners to determine if they wished to have a joint workshop meeting with the Historic Preservation Commission. APPROVAL QE MINUTES Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Toltoy, carried with Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting 'of October S, 1989. Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, ; carried with Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the minutes of October 11, .1 , as amended. CONSENT CALENDAR A. VACATION OF KINLOCK AVENUE - TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11685 A request to vacate Kin ock Avenue, located south of Devon Street to the north property line of Tract>12040, approximately 60 feet wide and 109 feet long . 6. VACATION OF A PORTION OF JASPER STREET - TENTATIVE TRACT 12820 - A request to vacate a portion of Jasper treet, located south of Highland Avenue, approximately 13 feet wide and 130 feet long. Motion; Moved by Chitiea seconded by Weinberger, unanimously carried to adopt the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 9-0C - FUTURE ESTATE, IN , - A request to amend the ner0 an Land se Map from ffice to Medium Density Residential ( -14 dwelling units per acre) for 3.556 acres of laud located at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Church Street. The City will also consider Neighborhood Commercial and Low Medium Density Residential as appropriate alternative designations. APN ' 1077-33 - 6. (Continued from October 11 , 1989.) D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 89-04 - FUTURE' E-5rATE, INC. - A request to a nd the Deve ap nt Districts ap from "" " ffice/professional) to "M" (Medium Density, 8-14 dwelling units per acre) for 3,66 acres of lam looted at the southeast corer of Archibald Avenue and Church Street. The City will also consider "NC" (Neighborhood Commercial) and "LM" (LowMedium) as appropriate alternative <districts. APN 10 7-33 - 6, (Continued from October 11., 1989.) Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and further reported that the applicant felt a school mitigation agreement would be forthcoming shortly. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . ; Max Williams, Williams Architects, Inc. , 276 North Second Avenue, Upland, stated they Felt they were on the verge of signing agreements with both School Districts. He requested a continuance until November 8, to allow presentation of the formal, written document. He asked for additional input from the Planning Commission regarding design of the project or density. 'j Planning Commission Minutes - - October 25, 1989` Chairman McNlel stated he felt the project was headed in the right direction and he felt it was vise to request the two-week continuance. Mr. Williamsstated the developer was in general agreement With ;the draft agreement which had been presented to the School Board. He felt final agreements could be obtained by the end of the week. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the School Board had authorized the mitigation measure Mr. Williams stated the School Board and developer had reached agreement in principal , but no documents have been signed. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was dosed. Commissioner Chitiea felt continuance was the only prudent direction. Motion. Moved by Chitiea seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 89-02C and Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 89-04 to November B, <1989. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITI A, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAESLEY -carried E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 9-02A - E.O.M. DEVELO EN - A request to amend the Generil P are Land Use' Map from 77o Congo Medium Density Residential (8-14 dwelling units per acre) for approximately 1 .78 acres of land looted on the west side of Carnelian Avenue, oast of the Cucamonga Creek Flood Control Channel , and south of Vivero Street - A . 2 7-022-C4. (Continued from October 11, 1989.) F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT` AMENDMENT 87-1 - E.O.M. DEVELOPMENT - A request to amen amend7 the eve opiiieR 6MFIZis Map rom o tnrol edium Density Residential '(D- 4 dwelling 'units per acre) for approximately 1 .78 acres of land located on the west side of Carnelian' Avenue, east of the Cucamonga Creek Flood Control Channel , and south of Vivoro Street - A : 207-022-E4. (Continued from October 11, 1989.) C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1426 - E.G.M. DEVELOPMENT rosi entia su division a esign reviiw o con o inium units on .BS acres of land in the Medium Residential District ( -14' dwelling units per acre) and the Flood Control District (a proposed Medium Residential District)'„ located on the west side of Carnelian at Vivero Street APN. 7-022-54 and 64. Associated with this project is General Plan Amendment 9-02A, Development District Amendment 87-12, and Tree Removal Permit 89- 58. (Continued from October 11, 1989.)' Planning Commission Minutes -3- October 25,' 1989 The staff report was ;presented by Cindy Norris , Associate Planner, and Torn Gr'ahn, Assistant Planner. fibs. Norris stated that the applicant had forwarded copies of the school mitigation agreements to the City today and staff had forwarded the agreements to the City Attorney for review. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Pete Pitassi, Pitassi Dalmau Architects, stated they had obtained signed agreements with both School Districts. He requested approval . Commissioner Chitiea asked if the applicant was content with the conditions in the Resolutions. Jeff, Burum, 6057 Della Avenue, 'Rancho Cucamonga, stated they were perfectly happy with the conditions. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Ch�tiea asked if the Attorney yhad reat o agreements an d was comfortable with their contents. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated he had seen the agreements and they; re appropriate. d Resolutions ` T "9 nd d b 'Ch it i a to adopt t the Motion: Moved o sto seconded e_ recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and General : Plan Amendment 89-DA and Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 7-1 and approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 163;. Motion carried;by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNI L, TOLSTdY', WEINBERGER NOES.- COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY -carried H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 12829 - A. H. REITER DEVELOPMENT -' subdivision of . acres o into pare s within t ndustrial Park District, Subarea E, and the Haven Avenue Overlay District, located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Trademark Parkway North A 10- 1-1 . Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.' Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Henry Reiter, A. H. Reiter Development, stated the requested subdivision was a financing tool . Planning. Commission Minutes -4- October 25,``` 198 Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea stated the request was reasonable. Commissioner Weinberger agreed. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the ;Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Parcel map 12829. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES. COMMISSIONERS. CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TO LSTOY, WEINBER ER NOES. COMMISSIONERS. NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS. BLAK ESLEY -carried I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 89- _ PALOMBO A request to e i in t the require -car garage y converting it into a climate controlled bedroom for medical reasons, for a single family residence on .18 acres of land in the Loan Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Lion Street and La Ronda Street - APN. 0 - i - . Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff'report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. ' Ray Palombo, 9211 La Ronda Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that Tom Palombo was dependent upon respiration equipment. He seated that Tom needs a portable generator in case of power failure. He said they requested the garage conversion because the room was large enough to handle the medical equipment but small enough to bepowered by the generator they owned. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the applicant planned to install covered parking in the back. Mr'. Palombo stated they did not; intend to. He said Tom was self supporting and his; specially-constructed van would not fit in a covered parking space. Chuck Horton, 7097 Lion Street, ' recommended approval . He felt the basis for:: the request was reasonable and there would be no visual impact to the neighborhood. Hearing no farther testimony, the public hearing was closed. Chairman McNiel Mated that generally the Planning Commission is 'very rigid with Variance requests, but there are times, when special circumstances dictate a Variance should be granted. He supported the Variance. Planning Commission Minutes' October 25, 1989 Commissioner Tolstoy concurred, especially with the requirement to convert the room back to a garage when it was no longer needed. Commissioner Chitiea felt the Variance request was for special circumstances, not merely for convenience. She felt the ;parking issue had been well thought out. Commissioner Weinberger felt the use was legitimate. Motion: Moved by Chitiea seconded by Weinberger, to adopt; the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Variance` 89-11 . Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TELSTOY, WEINBER ER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried J. ENVIRONMENTAL' ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-17 - INLAND AREA E LOW H P - request to esta is a church in n existing bui' ding tota in 1 , 57 square feet on 2.42 ages of land in the Medium Residential District ( -14 dwelling units per acre) , located at the northwest corner of 19th Street and Amethyst Avenue - APN. 201 474-02 and 03. Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. ' Bill Flanders, Inland Area Fellowship Pastor, stated the church was started about -1/2 years ago by eight families and currently meets` in a preschool facility. He said the congregation has grown to 8 families and the current their own facility t so they h also wished to have e w facility was too crowded._ They �` y could go to a seven-day-per-week ministry. Alan Oalmau, Pitassi Dalmau Architects, stated they felt the building was building of significance on a significant corner. He stated they had worked diligently with Engineering regarding placement of the driveways. He discussed their proposed phasing plan and stated they were trying to get into the building as cheaply as possible because of their limited budget and would upgrade the location as monies become available. He stated they wanted to restore the building as near as possible to its original architectural treatment, except they wanted to Dave the portion that was added to the building in the 1'90s.` Chairman McNiel stated he didn 't feel refurbishing the building should mean removing any additions to the building. He asked for clarification regarding the utility lines and poles to be removed in Phase I and the undorgrounding proposed for Phase IV. Planning Commission Minutes - - October 25 198 0 Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the utility poles referred to in Phase I were on-site pules, while the undergrounding in 'Phase IV referred to the utilities along the street frontage. Mr. Halmau stated that currently the property, was comprised of two parcels with the property line running through the proposed sparking lot. He said the church would like to retain the two separate parcels because they have five- year financing on the larger parcel and would like to have the ability to sell off the smaller lot if it became necessary. He said if the church were requ i red to 'sell off the smaller parcel , they would p l ace the lost parking to the north of the church. He asked if City Counsel could advise if the property owner could grant an easement to itself and suggested that the project' be conditioned to provide placement of additional parking en-site if the smaller parcel were sold in the future. He stated the plans currently call for developing the smaller parcel with a gymnasium. He said the church wanted `the separate parcels so< they could encumber only the site with the building in 'order to pull more money out when refinancing'. He requested that standard street improvement conditions L.5, 1 , and 11 ,be removed from the Resolution bec apt se the City is currently working on the street and will install the improvements. He requested that standard street improvement condition L.`15 be removed because they are not proposing to do any work on 19th Street. He requested that standard condition N.1 be rewritten to allow provision vision of utilities to the second parcel only when they build on it. Chairman McNiel asked how much of the parking was located on the smaller parcel. Mr. Calmau responded approximately 50 percent. He said additional parkingi could be added to the larger parcel if it' were needed. He felt a church use would be ideal for the building because they could utilize the facility in a similar fashion as the original school had used the building. He said they planned to use the old auditorium as their sanctuary. He said the church was anxious to move ! in because they were currently playing rent on their old facility as well as the mortgage payment on the new 'location. He stated: they felt the building is ideal for a church. He expressed appreciation to the staff for their efforts in working with the church. Commissioner Chitea asked if they had design plans for Phase III. Mr. Balmau felt the elevation would be drawn up basically similar to the photograph from 1921 shown on page - 1 of the staff report. He said. the parapet shown in the photograph would be the main extent' of the restoration. He said they planned to remove the rock terrace to expose the steps underneath within a ,year. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if Fire Department requirements were taken into account. . Dalmau stated there were; already working fire sprinklers in the building and the building had already been visited by Fire Department and City Building and Safety staff. He stated they anticipated a few minor alterations to the Planning Commission Minutes - - October 25, 1989 fire alarm system and the major expenditures would be inside to meet the handicap access requirements and refurbishing of corridors to meet the one- hour fire rating requirement. Commissioner Chitea asked what type of signage was proposed. Mr. galmau stated the signage was not included with this submittal , but they would like to put a sign in the recessed parapet area and they were considering a corner monument sign to match the architecture of the original parapet. Commissioner 7olstoy asked if the parcels remained separate what a possible use could be for the smaller parcel . He asked if there would be room for a sate driveway* Mr. Dalmau stated there were currently two driveways along Amethyst and two along 19th , which are being consolidated to move them further from the intersection. He said if the smaller parcel were sold, it would require a' reciprocal easement between the new property owner and the church. Mr. Tolstoy stated the only possible use would be residential and he felt the long narrow configuration would not be very viable for development. to have :two parcels,s the proposed church wished n t ted that �f the chugp � p p Mr. Hanson stated project< should be self-contained and the other parcel should be master planned Chuck Carelli , 9044 Citation Court, stated they would like to add to the beautification of the City by improving the deteriorating building. He said the last 'resort Mould be to sell the smaller parcel because they could not afford to sell the property and lose needed parking and a future play area. He said they were locked into a note on the large parcel with approximately four years left to go and they wished to have the ability to encumber the smaller; parcel by itself at a future time. He said they wanted to have the ability to secure first trust deeds on each property. Chairman McNiel stated the applicant was asking the City to agree to allow a lot lime to remain which would allow' the smaller lot to be sold; but if the smaller` lot were sold, the current project would no longer be feasible`. He said under normal circumstances each 'section would be planned separately with master planning for the area. Mr. Car°elli stated it would cause financial hardship if they had to combine the parcels and obtain future financing on both parcels together. Chairman Mc Niel stated that if the western parcel were eliminated, the eastern parcel could not stand on its own. Pastor Flanders stated they appreciated the help received from the City. He said it was the desire of the church to provide a nice facility, but they were limited in their funds and had therefore requested the phasing. Planning Commission Minutes' October 25, 1989 Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. I Chairman McNiel stated he appreciated the architect's attitude toward the building and ghat the church was trying to accomplish. He felt the lot line ' needed to be eliminated and one ;parcel should be created because one portion could not stand without the other. He appreciated the desire for the ability to obtain two first trust deeds, but felt it was not viable to split the property; and as the City could not restrict the future sale of a lot, it was important to eliminate the lot split. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred. He felt if the property were a commercial property, the shared access agreement would be more acceptable. However, in a residential zone he could not envision any plan for the smaller, lot that would alloy development. He felt it would be a mistake to leave the land as two lots. Commissioner Chitiea agreed. She felt that if the design were such that each piece could stand on its own, it would be appropriate to leave the lot split. However with the current design, if the church were to sell off the smaller property the survival of the church would be imperiled and the City could be criticized for allowing the project.` She felt that the proposed architectural enhancements and landscaping would be an asset to the community, but thought consolidation of the lots was essential . Commissioner Weinberger concurred. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit`89-1 . Motion` carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, T LSTCY, WEINBERC'ER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: LA ESLEY -carried Chairman McNiel reopened the public' hearing to allow a question from Mr. almau. Mr. aalmau asked for clarification on the standard engineering conditions. Chairman McNiel stated they were gust standard conditions that are placed on projects in case the people who are supposed to perform the work fail to do so. He said the City is committed to perform the work. He reclosed the public hearing. P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed : 0 P. I. - Planning Commission Reconvened Planning Commission Minutes' -9- October 25, 1989 K ENVIRO ENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 89-01 ESEN 'PROP RTIES - A request to charge various schdo , trai ; and;park site designations to allow the establishment of auto service stations and mini-warehouse uses, subject to the Conditional Use Permit process, along major arterials ; to delete a portion of Orchard Avenue; and to update the Landscape Design Guidelines and land use maps to reflect previous project approvals and "as-built" conditions - LPN: 227-151-08, 18, and 1 ; 1077- 4 1-01, 16 and 18; and 1077-091.- . Brett Horner, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the Trails Committee had been apprised of the proposed changes , and if so what their comments were. Horner stated the Trails Committee had not reviewed the proposed realignments. Commissioner Chitiea felt it would have been appropriate for the Committee to review the changes. Commissioner Tolstoy asked why Haven was listed as a possible location for to service and public service uses, as he felt there were no possible developable parcels left on Haven in Terra 'Vista. Horner stated' there was some vacant area to the north of the Town Center site. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was under the impression that all of the land along Haven Avenue had been roaster planned and he did not recall any auto; service' uses. r. Horner stated the area north of the Town Center site was originally intended for an office park, but the applicant has advised they do not Irish to pursue that land use and has recently indicated they may be looking at a use such as a Home Club for the area. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Doh Thompson, LewisHomes, stated Haven was included in the listing for auto service and public service uses only because it was a major street'. He said they did not presently have any plan to put a gas station on Haven. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated he understood from Mr. Tho son's comment that he would not; oppose deletion of Haven from the listing. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to see Haven deleted, Commissioner Chitiea agreed that Haven should be deleted and she felt the potential mini-warehou se and storage facilities designation should b discussed for several of the other streets listed. Planning Commission Minutes -1.0 October 25, 1989 Chairman McNiel stated then: are currently three gas; stations on Haven and it is one of the most heavily ;traveled streets in the community. He wasn"t sure' that it should be excluded. He felt a service station would be; appropriate if treated sensitively. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he questioned the 'inclusion of Haven because of the heavy use and the only available area. He felt it would cause a problem. He definitely fella a mini-warehouse would not be appropriate. Mr. Thompson stated Lewis was not in favor of adding parkways to the local streets because of the additional street dedication required. He said when the plan was first adopted there was a hierarchy of streets and they felt a parkway would be appropriate for the more heavily traveled i larger streets, but not for the smaller, local streets. They felt the parkway would' adversely affect the affordable housing program and the City should not take on the added burden of maintaining additional landscaped parkways. He said wring" the original planning process, the developer put in the greenway to alleviate; the need for pedestrian travel along the streets. Chairman Mciel stated in the original plan a number of Commissioners envisioned the greenwy area to be more grandiose than what it ultimately became. Mr. Thompson stated acreage has come out as anticipated. He discussed the "as built" a "status of infrastructure" map, Ilan Coleman, Principal planner, stated it was staff"s oversight that the trail realignments were not reviewed by the Trails Committee. He outlined the proposed trail charges. Commissioner Chitiea felt the trails merit a closer look . She wanted to be sure that connections were in the proper locations. ; Thompson stated the trail realignments were reviewed by the Parks Commission. Torn Delilaquila, Lewis Hones, questioned who Engineering intended to maintain the parkways between the proposed sidewalk placement and the street. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the homeowners would be responsible for maintenance of the parkways; and the City would maintain the street trees. Mr. Dellaquila stated Lewis Homes felt it was more of a burden on the homeowner than a single, contiguous front yard. He said they have done studies of landscape design relating to maintenance concerns and one of the major conclusions was that small , narrow strips of landscaping should be avoided because they are more difficult to irrigate and mow. He felt it was unfair to increase the maintenance burden on the homeowner and that many homeowners would rip out the landscaping and install gravel, ' resulting in a less attractive subdivision. Planning Commission Minutes -11- October 25, 1989 Stan Bell, Lewis Homes, stated Terra vista has a different community design than the rest of the local streets, in that they utilize loop streets going to a collector road, rather than using grid streets, He said the paved section of the streets is 36 feet, the same as the remainder of the City. He felt street-adjacent sidewalks give a more residential character to 'a neighborhood. Chairman McNiel asked if there were any, rolled curb conditions in Terra Vista. Mr. Bell stated there were none because they don't take enough drainage. He agreed that on more heavily traveled struts, the parkways should perhaps be added. Commissioner Tolstoy recalled that the first two community plans presented to the City had an extremely wide greenbelt ' area and he believed the greenbelt width was reduced downward during negotiations. Chairman McN'iel stated it originally appeared as one long park as opposed to landscaped parkway. Mr. Thompson stated that so far only a -foot wide section of the grenway has been built and the wider portions have not been built as yet. He asked if the Trails Committee review could be made separately from the other item because there were no active projects in the area of the trail changes. r. Buller again reviewed the existing and proposed trail configuration. ' Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was important for the Trails Committee to take an overall' look at the proposed 'system before the Planning Commission` took action. Commissioner Chitiea concurred. M . Thompson requested that the balance of the amendment be adopted and allow the trails to be reviewed separately. He <stated Lewis wished to start planning and submitting the Rochester` tract. Hearing' no further testimony, the public hearing was closed* " t Commissioner Chitiea felt it was appropriate to delete Haven Avenu e from the listing of potential streets for auto service use. She was uncomfortable with mini-warehouse use on the major streets listed. She felt it was necessary to look at site-specific locations as opposed to blanket proposals. She also supported the proposed local street standard. Commissioner Tolstoy preferred to separate mini-warehouse/storage uses from auto service uses. He felt some streets would be appropriate' for mini- warehouses and not service stations and vice versa. He also agreed with Commissioner Chitiea and supported the proposed street standard. He stated he did not like' sidewalks adjacent to the streets. Planning Commission Minutes' -1 - October 25, 1989 Chairman Mciel felt that service stations and fast food are services that; need to be provided. He said fast food restaurants have been allowed on Haven and they look good . He felt the min i-wa'r houselstorage facilities could be`! provided on internal streets within Terra Vista. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with the need for service stations and storage' facilities, but felt location was important. He felt mini-storage facilities should be provided as close to residential areas as possible because that is where they are needed, but he did not feel ;Haven and Foothill were appropriate streets. He did not feel Haven was an appropriate location for service stations because of the amount of traffic generated north of Foothill , the only available area left. Mr. Buller stated with regard to review of the trails issue that it would be possible to have the Trails Committee review the proposed trail changes at their meeting on November H, and the item could then be returned to the Planning Commission on November" , and possibly reviewed by the City Council on November 15. Commissioner Tolstoy asked that the Trails Committee be given a map before the meeting showing the current trails and the proposed changes. Mr. Coleman stated maps willbe provided. Mr. Buller stated' he would 'like direction on appropriate streets for auto uses and min i-st rage/Warehouse facilities. He felt the Commission had inferred that mini -storage would be appropriate on Rase Line and Rochester and perhaps' interior streets. Commissioner Chitiea felt it was more appropriate to have mini-storage on a major street as opposed to a neighborhood street, but she did not feel it was appropriate on Foothill , Haven, or Base tine. She stated that the current mini-storage on Base Line is a successful application. Chairman Mc Niel felt perhaps Mountain View Drive would be appropriate. He felt an interior street might make more sense to provide storage for the residents and did' not feel Base Line should be a catchall Commissioner Tolstoy -stated that building a mini-storage facility on an interior street would probably not make economic sense. He felt Rochester and Base Line would make excellent locations , and Milliken could be appropriate i designed properly. Chairman McNiel stated he was opposed to identifying specific locations'. He felt the design review process and Conditional Use Permit review process could be used to adequately i n su re compatibility. Commissioner Chitlea proposed eliminating Foothill and Haven: from the mini- storage listing . Planning Commission Minutes - - October 25, 1989 Commissioner Tolstoy agreed. He felt Foothill might be appropriate farther east or farther west, but not in Terra Vista. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. Mr. Thompson stated the mini-warehouse and recreational vehicle/boat storage uses were separated from service station uses in the Terra Vista Plan. He stated that he had placed the mini warehouse category in the Plan because he understood that Victoria had been required to have one, so he felt it would be nice to allow Terra Vista to have one Chairman McNiel felt it should be included. Mr. Thompson stated he would be willing to delete the mini -storage/warehouse fac i l i t category and was willing to delete Haven and Foothill from the service station listing. Chairman McNiel ' asked if < the Commission could act on a portion of the amendment. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that legally the Commission could act on a portion. Mr. Buller stated that it may be possible, but not practical ; because if the trails needed to be rerouted, then land uses and street designations may have to be changed. Therefore e felt the elements of the proposed amendment should not be separated. Commissioner Tolstoy stated trail terminations: and connections need to be be considered by the Trails Committee. He said he would also like to see where the trails connect to Victoria. Commissioner Chitiea stated the Committee would need to see typical sections in Terra Vista. Chairman McNiel asked how the proposed new sidewalk condition would be implemented. arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that as new projects are approved, the new standard would be applied. He said it may perhaps be appropriate to finish out a strut with the old standard. Chairman McNiel asked if it would make sense to use the different sidewalk configurations to identify different levels of streets. rrye Hanson stated the proposed configuration is the normal local street configuration. Chairman McNiel asked Mr. Thompson if the houses that would be affected by the new street configuration were the larger homes. Planning Commission Minutes -14- October 25, 1989 Mr. Thompson stated they were 2,500 square foot homes. Chairman Mc Niel felt the proposed sidewalk configuration would be appropriate as this was upscale housing . He asked if the developer would consent to a' continuance to November 8. Mr. Thompson consented to the continuance. Motion: moved by Chitiea, seconded her Weinberger, to continue Environmental Assessment and Terra Vista Community Plan Amendment 89_01 to November 8, 1989. Motion carried by the following vote: I AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, iMCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBERGER COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried . Buller asked- the developer to provide blowups of how the plans handle terminus of the trails. L. MODIFICATIONS TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8835' O PA� UP ii9n : T ' F. DAVIOSON MUTATES, INC. - A Fequest to modify the co it ion of approva-T—r4ti�ii---fi4--,tWundergrounding of utilities along Base Lime. Road for the development of a shopping center and related Parcel Map at the northwest corner of Base Line Road and Victoria Park Lane - A a 27-111-28, 34, and 35. Chairman Mc Niel stated the ;applicant had requested a continuance to November 29, 1989. He opened the public hearing. There were no public comments. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Modifications to Conditions of Approval for Conditional Use Permit 8 38 and Parcel Map 1183B to November 29, 1989. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. C ISSION . S. CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEINBER 'ER NOES: COMMISSIONERS:S: NE ABSENT: C` ISIONERS: BLAKESLEY carried OLD BUSINESS Planning Commission Minutes -15- October 2 , 199 M. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 89-02 - POLO GROUNDS A review of compliance of conditions of approval for an entertainment permit approved for Harry C's restaurant (presently Polo Grounds) located at 10877 Foothill Boulevard AP : 2 08-352-10. Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. John Ramsey, owner of Polo Grounds, apologized for not following procedures. He stated his intent was to provide a fine dining and entertainment establishment and he had spent almost $500,000 for i renovation. He said the average age of clientele was under 21 when the restaurant was Harry C's, but he was trying to attract a more adult crowd. He stated he had reduced seating in the nightclub from 460 to 268, and the average age clientele in the nightclub is now 35. He discussed the entertainment he was providing. He stated he will provide the required architectural plans and will provide eight bicycle racks to satisfy the parking requirements. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that when the addition to the banquet room was made it triggered a need for additional parking. Because landscaping would need to be removed to fit in the additional parking, staff felt it would be reasonable, as permitted by code, to substitute bike racks which could be used by employees as well as patrons. Ralph Crane, Deputy Fire Marshall, stated the, Fire District was convinced they were not dealing with a fire safety issue in withholding the final formal permit. He supported the Planning staff's recommendation to continue the item for further review. He stated the Fire District has spent an inordinate amount of time dealing with the Polo Ground tenant improvements, as they have spent 150-200 man hours and it should have taken only 50 hours. He stated the Fire District has conducted on-site safety inspections and determined the building is safe, but the applicant has not submitted a professional set of plans for the as-built improvements to achieve compliance. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the have been any over-occupancy problems. Mr. Crane stated the Fire District received one anonymous complaint and upon investigation the manager estimated they had about 350 people in the nightclub area, while their legal occupancy limit is 257. He stated they did not perform an occupancy count because they like to have a Sheriff present during occupancy counts and the Sheriffs were tied up at the Grape Harvest Festival. M . Ramsey stated that his manager had gotten into an argument with the Fire Inspector over the number of people. There were no further public comments. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the entertainment is currently being conducted within the guidelines of the existing Entertainment Permit. Planning Commission Minutes -116- October 25, 1989 Mr. Buller stated that a number of activities need clarification, but staff has no reason to believe they are not in compliance. He suggested that Mr. ' Ramsey iinquire of staff about entertainment being planned before it happens.` He said it may also be important that these inquiries be made in writing. Chairman McNiel agreed with staff's recommendation to allow the Polo Grounds additional time to achieve compliance.. Commissioner' Chitiea felt the restaurant had made improvements and was heading its the right direction. She felt it was important that things are done in the proper order' and brought into compliance. She supported a 30-day review. Chairman McNiel asked if any landscaping requirements have been added. Nor. Ruder stated that improvements have been made, but the landscaping is still not at the level it should be He recommended that if the applicant' still has not met the Minor Development Review requirements by November 13, that staff be directed to advertise a public hearing for the November 29 Planning Commission meeting to consider possible revocation or suspension of the Entertainment Permit. If the applicant had achieved compliance by November 13, he suggested staff be directed to return the item under Old Business for Planning Commission review at the November 29 meeting. It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to direct staff to return the item to the November 29, 199 meeting for further review if the applicant had; complied with the Minor Development Review conditions by', November 13. Staff was further directed to advertise for a public hearing on November 29, 1989 to consider possible suspension or revocation of the Entertainment Permit if compliance with the Minor Development Review conditions has not been achieved by November 13. DIRECTOR I S REPORTS N. PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE GRADING STANDARDS FOR THE ETIWANdA NORTH SREC 1 RZ 1 LAN Cindy Norris , Associate Planner, presented the staff report. She also presented a letter from doss Harris of Land/Plan/Design Group stating they old not be able to attend this evening's meeting to present comments from the consortium members, and requesting another workshop be scheduled. Mr. Harris's letter expressed concerns regarding density and architecture, and requesting that hillsides be defined as having ten percent or greater grade. Chairman McNiel asked if there were any areas staff felt should be tightened u . Ms. Norris stated that there were areas where the City may wish to tighten up including the graphics. Planning Commission Minutes - - October 25, 1989 Chairman Mc Niel felt perhaps the City could strengthen their deal points. Commissioner Chitiea felt staff"s analysis of the Consortium-suggested changes was concise and appropriate. Chairman McNiel saw no need to rake changes in the direction requested by the Consortium. Commissioner Chitiea saw no need to have another workshop.. Chairman McNiel felt another workshop might be appropriate, but he felt the Commission should remain strong in their position. Brad Buller, City planner, stated the City has asked the Consortium to show that City-proposed standards will not work, and the Consortium has failed to do so. Chairman McNiel felt perhaps the slope ranges triggering special grading should be lowered'. Commissioner Toltoy ; suggested staff prepare acceptable revisions to the Hillside Development Ordinance and provide the revisions to the Consortium for further comment. Following receipt of the comments, a decision could be made regarding scheduling of a workshop. Chairman McNiel suggested staff prepare' the acceptable revisions to the Hillside Development Ordinance for consideration by the Planning Commission, and then direct that the Ordinance be incorporated by reference in the Ctiwanda North Specific Plan. ConTnissioner Chitiea asked when the City would get confirmation that a equestrian center would be included in the location Per. Cilorio had advised the Trails Committee it would be located. Commissioner Tolstoy stated the City has not received a formal submission from the Consortium, so nothing has really been settled. He did not like the use of "encourage" or "discourage" in the graphics. He preferred the use of "allowed" and "not allowed." It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to direct staff to prepare acceptable revisions to the Hillside Development Ordinance as outlined in the staff report, present the revisions to the Planning Commission for consideration, and require the 'Etiwanda North ' Specific Plan ' incorporate the Ordinance by reference. COMMISSION BUSINESS Mr. Buller asked if the Commissioners would be interested in a joint field trip with the City Council to visit water treatment plants. Planning Commission Minutes -1.8- October 25, 1989 It was the consensus of the Commission that they would be interested in such a; trip on weekend day after the first of the year. Mr. Buller asked if the Planning Commission wished to hold a joint workshop' with the Historic Preservation Commission regarding coordinating services. Chairman Mciel stated he had met with the Historic Preservation Commission delegates in the past and felt it was a worthwhile experience. I It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to direct staff to set up a joint workshop with the Historic Preservation Commission. Because of vacation scheduling conflicts, it was determined that the December' , 198 Planning ; Commission Meeting would be canceled. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. ADJOURNMENT Motion-' 'Moved by Tostoy, seconded by Weinberger, unanimously carried, to adjourn. 11: 30 P.M. -` Planning Commission Adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary Planning Commission Minutes' - g- October 25, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 11 , 1989 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga; Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The =meeting was held at Lions? Pare Community Center, 911 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairmani McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chit ea, Larry McNiel , Peter Tol'stoy ABSENT: Betsy Weinberger STAFF PRESENT: Vince Bertoni , Assistant Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Tom Crahn, Assistant Planner; Barrye Manson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Kansan, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner* Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Betty Miller, Associate Civil Engineer; Cindy Norris , Assistant; Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, introduced Shintu Bose, the new Deputy City' Engineer. Mr. Buller stated that an appeal had been received from Western Properties on Conditional Use Permit 88-12 regarding the; condition requiring; access through; Building K. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Toltoy, carried with Blakesley; abstaining, to adopt the minute's of the meeting of September 27,' 1989, as amended. CONSENT CALENDAR A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 12462 - FIRST FAMILY HOMES - Design review of building evations and detailed site an for a previously approved Tract Map consisting of 27 single family lots on 17 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District (1-2 dwelling units per acre) of the Etiwanda Specific; Plan, located on the south side of 'Summi'tt Avenue, east of Etiwanda Avenue - APN: : 225-181-02 and 03. B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR; DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 9-07 - GILBERT AcJA - The eve Topment, of three industrial buildings tbta ing 116,150 square feet on 6.06 acres of land in the 'Industrial Pare District, Subarea '12 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located south of 6th Street and east of Pittsburgh - APN: 229-2E ®22. C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87- - BENNETT -COFNSOLI0ATEO­-----Tfi-Cdevelopment of acres of n ustr a aster Pan consisting of 18 lots in the General Industrial District, Subarea S of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the west side of Hermosa Avenue, to the north and south of 7th Street - APN: 2 9-211`-1S, 17, BG, and 31. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried to adopt the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS D. ; ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11067 - BENNETT ON OLIDA ED A sub ivision of 40 acres into B parc`e s within the en rah �I Wstri l District, Subarea E of the Industrial Specific Plan, looted on the west side of Hermosa Avenue, to the north and south of 7th` Street - APN: 209- 11-1. , 17, 30, and 31. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff` eport. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the topography slopes 7 to the south, and asked what provisions had been made to protect the property to the south. Mr. Hanson stated that an extensive storm drain system was planned for the site, and no water should go to the property to the south. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the drainage problem had been corrected to the north where the water could not get under the railroad track. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that although the problem has not been corrected, the developer was required to do an extensive '`flood study in addition to the drainage system. Chairman McNiel opened the ,public hearing . Dan MacDavid, Gilbert Aja & Associates, stated he was available to answer questions. Planning Commission Minutes - - 'October 11, 1989 Todd Cantu, Bennett Consolidated, stated they took no exceptions to the conditions. Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chit ea stated it appeared the details had been worked out and she supported the project. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by 'Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11057 Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: SLAK SLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONER'S: WEINBERGE -carried E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL ' PLAN AMENDMENT 89-02C - FUTURE ESTATE, NC. A request to amend the Hera Pan Lan se ap rom Office to tedium Density Residential (iG- 4 dwelling units' per acre) for 3.556 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Church Street® The City will also consider Neighborhood Commercial and Low Medium Density Residential as appropriate alternative designations. APN: 1.077-332-2 . (Continued from September 27, 1989.) F. 'ENVIRONMENTAL, ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 9-04 - FUTURE ESTATE INC. - A request to 4 nd the Development Districts Map from '""OP°" fie1P'ro essional) to "M"t (Medium Density, D-14 dwelling units per acre;) for 3.556 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Church Street. The City will also consider "NC" (Neighborhood Commercial) and "LM" (Low Medium) as appropriate alternative districts. APN,' 1077-33 -2G. (Continued from September 27, 1989.) Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report`. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Max William , Williams Architects, Inc., concurred with the staff report. He requested the project be continued to the next meeting to allow time to resolve the school issue. He stated they had received a letter+ from the School District and had a meeting scheduled for October 12, at which time he anticipated an agreement would be negotiated. Commissioner Tols oy asked if the school impaction issue had been settled`with Chaffey Nigh School District. Mr. Williams stated there was an agreement in principle, but it had, not been executed'. Planning Commission Minutes ` -3- October II, 1989 Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Chairman McNiel stated that at one time Office/Professional designations were spotted throughout the community to allow for doctor and dentist offices, etc, , but a number had been converted to other uses. Commissioner Tolstoy felt that because the property is isolated in a residential neighborhood, its best use would be of a residential nature. However, at this point he could not support the land use change because of the school issue and felt the item should be continued until the school issue was mitigated. Commissioner Chitiea stated that the last time a land use change; was considered for the parcel , the property owner gave vehement opposition to a switch to residential, and gave valid arguments to support his opposition.; She felt that if residential use were approved, Medium density would be appropriate. However, she felt the mitigations for the school impaction was; extremely important and did not Feel approval could be given without resolution of the issue. She strongly urged resolution of the school impaction issue quickly. She stated 'a negative declaration was unacceptable without mitigation of the school impaction issue, and was willing to continue the item to allow time to solve the problem. Commissioner glakesle.Y concurred.: Chairman Mciel asked the density range on the preliminary site plan: submitted. Can Coleman, Principal Planner, stated it was 11.2. Commissioner Tolstoy asked the density range of the apartment complex to the south. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the range is 8-14 but that he was not aware of the specific density of the built project. Commissioner Tolstoy felt that the preliminary site plan presented would` overburden the property, and he felt any 'development should be at the lower end of the 8-14 range because of the church across the street to the north and the nearby single family residences. He thought perhaps the property should be zoned at Cow-Medium. Chairman Mclel reopened the public, hearing . Commissioner Chitiea asked if the agreement worked out with Chaffey High School District was based on a specific number of students or a range. Jeffrey Dorman, principal of the project, stated he had only looked at the Development Agreement a week ago, but under the general parameters of the form agreement, it called for $1,200 per unlit for mitigation costs.' Planning Commission Minutes -4- October 11, 1989 Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the $1,200 per unit was in addition to the usual square footage requirement. Mr'. Dorman stated he was not sure if development fees were exclusive from normal Fees generated by liveable space, but he thought they would be. Chairman McNiel stated that if the use were approved, the Planning Commission has very stringent design standards. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to continue Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 69-0' C and Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 69-0 to October 25, 1989. Motion carried by the following vote AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, T LSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NUNS I ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WEINBERG R -carried Mr'. Buller stated staff would return with the actual densities of the projects to the east and south and asked if there should be additional analysis of the proposed density range for this property. Chairman McNiel stated he Felt the consensus of the Commission was that the developer should look at the lower end of the 8-1 range. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred. G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 12357 - ' SOUTHLAND OEV" L PM N P A N - A subdivision of 9.37 acres of and into 2 parcels in the Lower Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Highland Avenue and Jasper Street - APN 201 y-212- . Betty Miller, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Cordon Dreisbach, Southland Development Corporation, stated they agreed' with the staff report and had satisfied CalTrans. Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Motion. ` Moved by Chitiea seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12357. Motion' carried by the following vote® Planning Commission Minutes - - October 11, 1989? AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TCLSTCY ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS* WEINBERGER -carried H ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 12629 SHUM - A' sub` ivision o 1 .6 acre of into prce s 7n the Low si ential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) located on the north side of; Base Line Road, west of Beryl Street - APN, 0 - 31-30. Betty Miller, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report, Chairman McNiel asked if the parcel map included a public street. Ms . Miller stated the applicant originally submitted a parcel map to include a cul -de-sac street, but the applicant was advised to submit the map with a driveway instead She stated the radius bulb was included on the driveway to allow for fire turnaround. Commissioner Tolstoy asked how the small portion of .land 'between the driveway and the lot line would be handled Ms. Miller stated that Engineering was recommending that a Homeowners ners' Association be formed to care for that strip of 'land. Ralph Hanson, City Attorney, suggested that the condition be rewritten to allow for a reciprocal access and maintenance easement to be recorded as part of the deed. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if it would make more sense to create a separate lot encompassing the driveway, landscaping , and guest parking and have that lot owned b,y' a Homeowners Association'. Commissioner Chitiea agreed that such an lot would appear to give the City re assurance that the common areas would be maintained. Mr. Hanson stated that if the three property owners were forced to form a Homeowners Association, they would be forced to anent on a regular` basis and take minutes. He stated they would have the same issues of taking care of the property, but would have the added formalities of a corporation. Commissioner Tolstoy asked now the City could preclude the owner of Lot I from building on the guest parking area. Commissioner Chitiea felt the owner of Lot 2 would not want to pay for taking' care of the parcel to the west of the driveway;, and would feel it should be part of the property for Lot 3. She wondered who would pay for the water for that portion of the landscaping. Planning Commission Minutes - a- October 11, 1989 Commissioner Blakesley felt that from a practical point of view, three owners' would not have a functioning Homeowners Association. Mr. Hanson Mated that if the three homeowners could not; agree, the recorded reciprocal access and maintenance easement would give them a legal mechanism to llow them to take the matter to court. Commissioner Blakesley agreed that the driveway` should be on the west side of the parcel . Chairman MNiel opened the public hearing. i Al Berenis, C and B Engineering, felt the homes would look better if sited above the driveway, as in their proposed parcel map with the driveway on the east side of the lot. He also stated' a driveway currently exists in the same location as their proposed driveway. she concurred with City Counsel to provide' for ' a recorded reciprocal access and maintenance easement, but was willing to create a fourth lot to be jointly owned by all three property owners. William' Wooster, 9069 Roberds Street,` Rancho Cucamonga, stated he lived north of the proposed development. He was concerned that three-story homes would be built, 'BB feet high, and questioned if there were setbacks. He stated his hone sits approximately 15 feet from the property line. Chairman McNiel stated there are setbacks in the code, and that the maximum height of BB feet would be only a two-story house. Wendell Walker, 9076 Base tine, ' Rancho Cucamonga, stated he owned the house adjacent to the property. He agreed with the C i ty's recommendation for the west driveway. He stated has bedroom is adjacent to the current driveway. He was concerned with drainage and stated that he has received water runoff from the recently paved driveway on the project property. Joanne Claytor, 7273 Garnet Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they had a recently installed block wall on the west' side of the property, adjacent to the driveway location preferred by the City. She wanted to know hour close to their* block mall the driveway would be situated.. Ms. Miller stated` them was a 14+ foot landscape area between the driveway and the property line, Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested the Commission might wish; to require the common landscaping be installed prior to occupancy. Ms Claytor stated some of her neighbors were concerned about their wooden fences and wanted to know if there would be a requirement to replace existing fences with a wall and who mould be responsible. Mr .. Buller stated it is the current policy of the Commission to require common walls for infill development; and therefore, the Commission might wish to require the developer build a common gall . Planning Commission Minutes - '- October 11, 1989 Ms. Clavtor also preferred one-story homes. Chairman McNiel stated that one-story houses could not be 'promised. Mr;. Derenzis stated that his client would be developing the property using' rear setbacks larger than :the minimum requirements. He stated that there has been some runoff from the current driveway because the driveway was recently paved without being properly contoured. He stated the runoff could be accommodated on the property with the driveway on either the east or the west side, as the paved driveway would have pavement and curb. He stated a catch basin was required for the layout with the driveway on the west, but them was no guarantee that the homeowners would maintain it. He said they planned to ask permission of the neighbors to wild a common block wall. He felt the landscaping would provide sufficient buffering, but felt privacy would ber better accomplished with the driveway on the east. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the developer was planning to construct a block' wall on three sides of the property. r. Derenzis' stated they anticipated replacing the wall on the west boundary, and there was a block wall on the east. He said they would do whatever the City required. Commissioner Chitiea asked how they would match the existing wall . Mr. Derenzis, stated he was not sure. Mr'. Buller stated that normally on infill projects, a neutral material is selected for the wall . Hearing; no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Chairman McNiel asked ashy Engineering preferred the driveway on the west. Ms. Miller stated they wanted to align the driveway with one across the street and also wished to move the driveway further away from Beryl , because 'Beryl' and Base Line is a busy corner* Commissioner Chitiea felt safety was a strong consideration, and she favored the driveway to the west. She was uncomfortable with the type of design, but stated it appeared it was the only way to subdivide a parcel of this size. Commissioner Blakesley agreed that safety was the overriding' consideration, and he therefore supported the westerly driveway. Commissioner Tolsto,y concurred regarding the traffic conflict , and felt it was more important to mitigate any traffic problem He asked if the houses would be level with Base Dine Road. Barrye Hanson stated that the grading plan showed they would be four feet higher than Base Lime Road. Planning Commission Minutes -8- October 11 1989 Commissioner Tolstoy preferred having a separate lot for the common areas, but he agreed with Counsel that a corporation would not be practically feasible. Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded` by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12629 with modifications to require,, a recorded reciprocal access and maintenance agreement in lieu of a< Homeowners Association, installation of the common area landscaping prior' to occupancy of any parcel, and replacement of the existing fences with a shared masonry wall on the east, north, and west boundaries of the project. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAB ESLEY, CHITIEA MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: ' COMMISSIONERS: WEINBERGER -carried 8:45 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed. 9:00 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened. I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL' PLAN AMENDMENT 8 -0A - E.G.M. 5EVECOPME A request to amend the ` nera ao Land Use ap from P160 ontrol to Medium Density Residential (8-14 dwelling units per acre) for approximately;, 1.78 acres of land' located on the west side of Carnelian Avenue, east of the Cucamonga Creek Flood Control Channel , and south of+ Vivero Street - APN: 7-0 4. J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-1 - E.G.M. DEVELOPMENT - A request to ame"nd­t7K4­OFeve_1_o­p`ment Districts' ap from F1067d' Rr Medium Density Residential (8-14 dwelling units per acre) for approximately 1 .78 acres of land located on the west side of Carnelian Avenue, east of the Cucamonga Creek Flood Control Channel , and south of Vivero Street - APN: 7-0 - 4. K. + ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND 'TENTATIVE TRACT 14263 - E.G.M.<. DEVELOPMENT A -residential V-residentiil sub i i ion aril design review of 8 condominium units on 3.35 acres of land in the Medium Residential District (8-14' dwelling units per acre) and the Flood Control District (a proposed Medium Residential District) , located on the west side of Carnelian at Vivero Street A 07-0 -S4 and 64. Associated with this project is General' Plan Amendment 89- A, Development District Amendment 87-1 , and Tree Removal Permit 89- 58. The staff report was presented by Cindy 'Norris , Associate Planner, and Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner. Planning Commission Minutes` - - October 11, 1989 Commissioner Chitiea asked if there is a sidewalk connecting the proposed' project to the commercial area to the north. Mr. Grahn replied there is not. Commissioner Chitiea a kedx. if the sidewalk extended north on the eastern side of Carnelian,.* Russ Maguire, City Engineer, replied that it does. Commissioner Blaksley asked why there was not a trail access. Mr. Grahn stated the Resolution requires the applicant to prepare plans addressing the access point ' leading to the west property line, however, there currently is no agreement between the City, the Flood Control District, and the Corps of Engineers for an extension of the Regional Trail . Commissioner Chitiea asked if anyone was pursuing the extension with the Flood Control District and the Corps of Engineers. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, stated that once the Alta Loma Channel Agreement is approved, the City plans to ;prepare a master agreement for the rest of the City. Commissioner Blak sley asked where access was being contemplated. Mr. Grahn stated it was just south of the recreation center `along the west project boundary. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred with the necessity for the turning lane, but felt the parkway along Carnelian would lose a lot of its charm. Mr. Grahn stated the project was conditioned to require conformance with the Carnelian Beautification Project. Chairman McNiel opened the public.: hearing. ; Pete Pitassi,, Pitssi Dalmau Architects, stated the project site was difficult= to work with because of its shape. He proposed single family attached housing (duplexes) with an A/B; pattern instead of an A A reverse pattern. He stated they also proposed two buildings for diversification. He stated', the deceleration lane would decrease the frontage along Carnelian, but they proposed landscaping in that location. He stated they received correspondence from Central School District late this afternoon and the developer had agreed to the proposed fee. He requested that the; project be approved with a; condition added that the developer agree with the School District mitigation measures prior to issuance of building permits. He was: concerned regarding Engineering condition Bl , and wanted to confirm that it referred to curb and gutter improvements only. Planning Commission Minutes ' -10- October 11, 1989 Jeff Burum, 6057 Della Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, asked how the in-lieu fee was calculated. He stated their traffic study concluded that a signal would be needed at the corner of Vivero and Carnelian even without the proposed project and he, therefore, requested reimbursement at 10 % . Mr. Maguire stated that even if a traffic signal were required without this project, the existing street configuration is only a "T" and the signal would only have three legs. Therefore, the developer was being asked to pay for the fourth leg , particularly since the project would have no alternate access. He stated that in the past the City has required larger developments to install and pay for entire signals. He further stated that without the project, the signal was not a high priority, and it would be several; years before installation.. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the formula on condition (B) called for standard fair market value of full improvements ; i e., curb, gutter, sidewalks, and strut lights. He stated the applicant would normally; build the improvements, but the open channel needs to remain to pick up water! off Carnelian. r. Burum stated he agreed with fair market value, but that on the undergrounding in-lieu fee, the charge is approximately BD higher than actual costs. (fir. Hanson stated ;.that the numbers for utility undergrounding are generated by the utility companies , but the City can use fair market value for the other improvements. Mr. Maguire stated that the applicant would submit full and complete plans' along with estimates of value and cast. He stated Engineering would then estimate how much it would cost to build the improvements later. Burum felt they were perhaps getting to the point where the project would not pencil out. He said that because their traffic study indicated the City should have a traffic signal at V'ivero and 'Carnelian even without the addition of their project, he felt that their payment of the normal systems fee should be adequate, 'instead of requiring there to pay for25%' of the traffic signal . Chairman McNiel stated that when the project was last reviewed, the primary concern ; was the traffic it would generate and he felt the developer should have anticipated the possible need for a signal . Mr. Burnam stated that :since the ,signal is currently nonexistent, he felt the City should work with the developer and be swilling to pay for the signal. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Ralph Hanson, stated the developer was requesting that their Parcel Map be conditioned to pay the dollar amount mentioned in the letter before the Commission from the Central School District, but state law does not allow the Commission to impose such a condition on the project. He stated a private Planning Commission Minutes _11 October 11, 1989 agreement between the developer and the School District might be appropriate, e suggested if the Commission wished to approve the project this evening, they might add language to Planning Condition (B) to state that if the developer and any affected School District arrived at a private agreement, the condition would be deemed mall and void. Commissioner Chitiea felt it was essential to have some sort of agreement for school mitigation. She complimented Mr., Pitassi on the site plan' and architectural design. She was concealed about the traffic into and out of the project , and the only access being from Carnelian. She felt that the traffic generated by the project will greatly affect the need for the signal` and therefore felt the cost of the four-way signal was partly` a responsibility of the developer. She supported the project with a signal , a school mitigation agreement, and Engineering 's conditions. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed' than he could ' not support the project without a signal . He was concerned about the breakup of the beatification area and suggested the project be conditioned to pay particular attention to the landscaping that the deceleration' lane removes, Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that staff very carefully reviewed the removal and replacement of trees. Be agreed that there should be a greater' focus on a denser landscaping in the area of the deceleration lane. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if it should be added as a condition, or if it would be sufficient to ireflect the desire in the Minutes. Mr. Maguire suggested adding a condition requiring review by the City Engineer and City Planner to be sure the beautification theme is reestablished and the establishment of any additional landscaping or tree easements necessary to assure control of the landscaping. Barrye Hanson stated that the Resolution called for the sidewalk to be> property-line adjacent, separated from the curb. He asked if the Commission was in agreement. It was the consensus of the Commission that if possible' the sidewalk should wind through the trees. Chairman McNiel commended the developer on the ;p ject's sensitivity to good site planning and design. Mr. Buller stated staff would prefer a continuance to allow an agreement on school impaction to be in-hand before recommending approval. He ' said that under state law the most appropriate time to consider school impaction would; be during the General Tarr review rather than with the Map. Commissioner Blakesley stated his concerns had already been stated and he reed with the proposed modifications to the conditions. Planning Commission Minutes . - October 11, 1989 Chairman McNel reopened the public hearing to allow the applicant to comment on continuance. r. Pitassi stated that because of financing , they did not want to delay the project... He said he was willing to pay the fee, and he would like to have the I Map conditioned and the project approved. Chairman McN'iel stated that the School District letter requested the City impose a fee requirement and the City could not legally impose that fee, Mr. Pitassi felt the City could impose the requirement of an agreement on the Map. Ralph Hanson stated the law is very specific about ghat the City can impose. He said it would not be a valid condition for the City to impose. Mr. Buller stated that 'because of advertising requirements the first available City Council: meeting would be November 1.. He said the project could be continued to the October 25 Planning Commission meeting to allow time for the applicant to present the mitigation agreement, and if the project were then approved, it could still be forwarded to City Council on November 1 . Therefore, no time would be lost if action could be taken on October 25. Mr. Pitassi stated that he couldn't sign; the mitigation agreement without approval of the map. He said the Chafey High School District had agreed that as soon as the City, gave approvals for the project, the School District agreement could then be signed. Mr. Buller stated that the General Plan Amendment and the Development District Agreement could not be conditioned and the City must see evidence that school impaction is mitigated'. Chairman McNiel suggested continuing the project to October 25 and scheduling the items for the November l City Council meeting. He felt the Commission needed to see the agreement before supporting the project. Mr. Buller requested that the applicant consent to a continuance on the Map. Mr. Pitassi agreed to the continuance. Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to continue Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 89-02A, Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 87-1.2, and En v i ronme nta1 Assessment and Tentative Tract 123 to October 2 , 1989. Motion carried by the following vote AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAIESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY ES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: 1EIN'BEROER -carried Planning Commission Minutes -1'3- October 11 1989 NEW BUSINESS L. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-22 - CEIVE T - An appeal of the City Planner's ecl'sion to deny a d. request for a carport addition to an existing automotive repair shop at 8517 North Grove Avenue - APN: 07-220-0E. Vince Bertoni , Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Mc +iel invited public comment. Howard Ceivett, 8517 Grove Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated the carport was built at a time when he was in partnership with another person, and he was not the sole owner. He felt it was unfair of the City to require approximately 100,0 C- 1 C,000 worth of improvements for such a small addition. He stated he was a small businessman and could not afford the improvements, but proposed phasing in a portion of them. He stated the carport was built in order to protect his personal vehicle and that: of the Manager. There were no further public comments. Chairman McHiel stated the City attempts to make the community a nice place to live. He said the City must function under the codes in place 'because if exceptions are made for some, they must be made for all . Commissioner Chitiea felt findings could not be made to grant a Variance. She felt if the applicant ' had approached the City prior to building the carport, some mitigation measures might have been taken. She felt the applicant had placed the City in a difficult position by building a structure they knew was out of conformance and then expect the City to give approval . She stated it was a self-imposed non-conforming condition and she did not support the appeal. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with Commissioner Chitiea. He stated that Arrow Highway is an important street and 'felt the carport is quite prominent to Arrow Highway. Commissioner lakesley stated his sympathies were with the applicant, but he could not support the appeal . Brad Huller, City Planner, stated staff had met with the applicant and discussed revitalization of the corner. He stated that the applicant felt it was unfair to rewire; so many improvements for the addition of such a small structure. The applicant was encouraged to pursue master planning the corner. He suggested the Commission deny the appeal without prejudice to allow the applicant the ability to return with new ideas. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chiti a, to adopt the Resolution denying the appeal of Minor Development Review 9- , with modification to indicate denial without prejudice. Motion carried by the following vote:: Planning Commission Minutes -14- October 11, 199 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKE LEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOL TOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE I ABSE NT: COMMISSIONERS: WEINBERGER -carried. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he hoped the applicant would return with a master plan to help the corner as well as the applicant's business. He suggested a' phasing plan might be appropriate. Chairman MNiel felt the applicant's position was untenable and the Commission had no recourse but to deny' the appeal. He invited Mr. Ceivett to comment. Mr. Ceivett stated the carport would not have to be located where it is and he could take it down. He felt however that any Minor`` Development Review application to place a carport elsewhere on the property; would still trigger the same conditions* Chairman McNiel stated that the Commission however, would be in a position to consider phasing of certain; improvements. Mr. Ceiett staters that he was given the impression that so long as he put in a carport or made any other modifications, he would have to make all the improvements. He said therefore, he felt he was being forced to leave things' the way they were. He said he would hike to improve the property just to make it more attractive, but the City-required improvements 'would not help his business. There were' no Further public comments. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, started that Ordinance 58 does not give staff or the Planning Commission any latitude on public 'improvements. He said if the applicant builds a carport, the requirements for public improvements are triggered. Because the Ordinance does not say the improvements have to be built immediately, the City does have the ability to set a reasonable timeline; for the completion of all improvements,, and generally; Engineering gives twelve" months and will allow one extension. Mr. Buller stated that in meeting with the applicant long range; plans could be discussed. He said the Commission would have discretion regarding levels of landscaping within the landscape setback. He said that to pull permits for a' carport would still trigger the improvement requirements, and it would make more sense for the applicant to consider more substantial improvements, such s additional office space. He said the improvement requirements would only apply to the parcel the applicant` was making improvements upon. Planning i Commission Minutes -1 - October 11, 198 M. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW - ; - GRACE RESTAURANT COMPANY - The design review of building elevations and detailed site parr for a 6,100 square foot restaurant within an existing commercial shopping center in Terra Vista Planned Community, located on the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Base Line Road - AEN: 107 - ' 1-31. Vince Bertoni, Assistant Planner, presented: the staff report. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Richard Oki oto, Dkimoto/S a Architects Associates', stated he had worked closely with staff and was available to answer questions. Chairman McNiel stated he anticipated the restaurant would be very successful and many people would be waiting outside to get in. He asked it consideration had been given to dealing with the overflow'. Mr. Dkimoto :Mated there were fairly; large arrangements for overflow within the restaurant with a waiting area holding 15-16 seats and a counter for 10. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, stated there is a large plaza south of the proposed restaurant with seating, and he suggested Coco's could install small exterior speakers Commissioner Chitiea stated that when the inset area on the front of the building was discussed at Design Review, the Committee ` requested that the terra cetta element be added. She felt the element was used in addition to the in other areas of the center and requested Planning condition ( ) be changed to reflect the terra Gotta element would be in addition to the the instead of in lieu of the tile. There were no further public comments. Commissioner Chitiea thanked the applicant for working' with the City to address the ity's needs to fit in with the center. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred and stated he felt the project would add to the corx mun i y and the`center. Commissioner Chitiea commiended staff for their work on the project. Commissioner Blakesley stated he was glad to see the project continue with the> level of quality consistent with the center. Chairman McNiel asked if the signage was consistent with the balance of the center. r. Bertoni stated he had not measured the square footage, but the ;signs were in conformance in regards to number of signs and color. Planning i Commission Minutes -1 _ October 11;, 1989 Motion; Moved Chitiea 1 seconded `Bl �'` se o_ ad t o the Resolution y . > a ton approving Development pp ' Review 89-20. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WEINBERGER -carried N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT RENEW -14 - AMPAC - The eve op-me nt bf two manufacturing bui sings tota 1 i n g 2 6, square feet on 39.3 acres of land in the Heavy Industrial District, Subarea 15 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at 1215 Arrow Route APN: 9-11-15. Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Paul Toomey, Kreuper Engineering, requested that the curb and gutter construction not be tied to building occupancy because Day Creek Channel construction and 'Mello;-Roos storm drain construction' will directly affect the parcel . He proposed designing and bonding street improvements prior to occupancy and constructing the curb and gutter and relocating; the power pole after Day Creek Channel construction is complete and the storm drain is installed in Arrow Route. He stated that power polo relocation is a lengthy process through Southern California Edison. Commissioner Tolstoy asked now long a time span the applicant was proposing to delay curb and gutter construction, as Day Creek Channel construction will take some time. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the storm drain improvements are on the north side of the street and don't affect the south side except for a small' portion on the westerly end' of the property. He felt they could complete the improvements , as Fontana Steel had also done. He suggested the condition not be changed. Mr. Toomey stated that Fontana Steel did not have to 'relocate power poles, and was therefore not delayed by Southern 'California Edison, Mr. Maguire agreed that Southern California Edison could delay the process approximately 4-5 months, but felt the applicant was no different from other applicants. Mr. Toomey stated there might be a problem with the elevation of the roadway at the west end of the project. Mr. Maguire stated that under Ordinance 58 if the City Engineer determines it is not feasible to build an improvement at the present time, the City Engineer Planning Commission Minutes -17- October 11, 1989 I can defer construction. He stated it may be appropriate to delay that part of the improvements , but e did not feel i was necessary to delay construction �' y of the remainder of the improvements. Mr. Toomey stated that; Ampac would like to expand their operation as quickly as passible. He then questioned the need for an -foot high fence around the interim detention basin. He said the Regional Trail would not be available for use and there are no residences in the area., so that; children should not be in the area. He asked that the condition be clarified or eliminated. 'I Mr. Maguire stated that the City requires a -foot high safety fence surrounding any basin where grater stands intermittently over d". 'I Mr. Hayes stated that there was a recommendation in Design Review that the fence be 8 feet high. Mr. Toomey asked if the area could really be classified as a basin. He stated it was merely a natural , existing; depression. Mr. Maguire stated that according to plans submitted by the applicant, ,they were going to make modifications and designate the area as an interior basin as a mitigating measure for the development they were proposing . He said if they were directing storm water to the area, and ' the water would sit intermittently, it would need to be surrounded by safety fencing. H suggested they might check into using a rented fence. Commissioner Tolstoy asked how long the basin would be needed. Mr. Maguire said it would be needed for a year to 1-1/2 years. Chairman McHi'el asked why the basin was being constructed. Mr. Maguire stated the basin is needed to allow the project to proceed before the gay Creek' Channel is approved. There were no further public comments. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the retention basin was an open and closed case, if; the applicant wished to build prior to the completion of gay Creek, they needed to build it and fence the area. He was willing to allow a -foot fence. Mr. Maguire suggested modifying Engineering condition )c) to require surety be posted to guarantee removal of the interim facilities when they were no longer necessary. Commissioner hitiea stated she appreciated the addition- of concrete on the building to break up some of the surface, but she felt the treatment of the concrete area was less than successful .= She felt the project was not aesthetically pleasing. She felt that just because the project set away from the freeway, it should not be assumed it would net be seen. Planning Commission Minutes October 11, 1989 Mr. Hayes stated the bottom part of the building would have a concrete base, the middle portion is a smooth metal material , and the top is a ribbed metal material. Commissioner Toltoy stated it is an industrial building in a heavy manufacturing area, a long ,.way from the freeway, and would be in the midst of pipe storage yard. He felt the building was acceptable. Chairman McNiel felt that if the building were on the street, or an office building, or if it would generate a lot of visitor traffic, it would need to be upgraded. However, he felt the building was located in the center of their project and he felt It was better to have the building remain functional, because he felt the property value might in time increase to the point where another use would generate a better profit. Commissioner Chitiea felt there could have been a more interesting solution. Commissioner Blakesley felt the building was not so large that it would be a major point on the landscape. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was not that large of a building. He asked why columnar* trees were selected instead of a more obscuring tree along the Edison corridor. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that Edison would not allow ' trees to encroach within their right-of-way, 'so additional land ;would be needed to provide for spreading trees.. Mr. Hayes stated there would be oleanders along the freeway and a dense landscaping scheme along the future Regional Trail along Day Creek. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 89-1.4, with modification to provide for a 6-foot fence surrounding the detention basin and the removal of the retention facilities when no longer needed. Motion carried` by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS. BLAESLEY, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WEINBERG R carried COMMISSION BUSINESS D. ' DISCUSSION OF TEXTURES COLORS AND MATERIALS WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL SPECIFICNiMEA ,I I Planning Commission Minutes _ g- October 11, 1989 1 i Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that at the last meeting Commissioner Tolstoy requested that the item be discussed. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was concerned because at Design Review they have been presented with concrete tilt-ups with stairstepped colors and he would like to see more .. variety. He felt other alternatives should be considered and the City should upgrade their standards. Chairman cNiel suggested a policy decision rather than a Code change, stating that the Commission encourages, the use of alternative textures and materials. Commissioner Tolstoy felt that merely encouraging more variety would not really accomplish anything. He suggested amending the Development Code to reflect the fact that the Commission wants additional architectural enhancements. Chairman cNiel didn't feel that banded paint is necessarily a bad thing. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he did not wish to exclude the use of paint, but he felt more things must be considered. He stated the Commission has seen little creativity. He wanted to require textures and trappings . Mr. Buller stated that an advantage to leaving the design standards as broad as possible is that it gives the Commission more latitude to either be strict or lenient. He felt that with more defined criteria, developers would be more likely to hone in on the minimum. He suggested drafting a press release challenging the development community to come in with something different. He thought perhaps the challenge could be distributed to developers ass they approach the City with projects. He said exhibits or photographs could be used. Chairman McNiel felt that would alert the developers that the City is after something else. Mr. Buller felt a written policy stating "alternative textures and materials to the normal concrete . .. " could be placed in the packet of standard policies for commercial reviews. He suggested evaluating that approach in 3-6 months. He felt that if staff pressed the issue earlier in the process the architects may come in with better ideas. He suggested the staff might take field trips and take pictures or videos to present to the Commission to find out what the Commission was looking for. Commissioner Blakesley felt it might be rough for the staff to get an idea of what the Commission is looking for. Chairman cNiel felt that it was a good suggestion to challenge the developers. He felt the Commission was at fault because they try to work with the developers instead of telling the architect a building is unacceptable. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it would be necessary to go outside the City to get some examples of good use of textures. Planning Commission Minutes -20- October 11, 1989 Commissioner Chitiea suggested using the tern "building articulation"' to describe what the Commission is seeking. She felt perhaps more popping out of the buildings and more glass would enhance the buildings. Commissioner Tolstoy stated pop outs are costly, and he felt different textures would be more economical'. It was the consensus of the Commission that staff would prepare a policy to indicate at the beginning of the review process that more articulation would be needed. P. DISCUSSION DE STREET NAMING POLICY Chairman McNel stated he had an opportunity to review the street naming list which has been given to `developers and concluded that no changes were necessary. He said that as some of the more prominent historical names have ended up on obscure cul -de-sacs, it right' be appropriate to recommend those naves be used on park sites or community or City buildings. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, stated that Etianda North is the last chance at naming some major streets with historical names. Chairman Mc Niel thought it might be of value to discuss the item with the Consortium. Commissioner Blakesley preferred using the names for streets instead of parks if possible. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn. 11:10 P.M. _ Planning Coffnission Adjourned. Respectfully submitted, " Brad Bul r Planning Co mission Minutes - 1 - October 11, 1989 i CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting October 5, 1989 Fire Station No. 4 Workshop Southwest Cornier of Milliken and Jersey Chairman McNiel called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 1 :15 P.M. The meeting was held at the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga, California. The purpose of the meeting was to finalize remaining design details on Station No. 4, per Manning Commission action of September 27, 1989. The remaining questions were; 1) detailing of brick lintels, sills, and openings, and ) specific design details for the main entrance to the facility. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS. PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea,; Larry McNiel , Peter Tot stay ABSENT, David Blakesley, Betsy Weinberger STAFF PRESENT : Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner Max Medina, Wolff/Lang/Christopher, presented ideas and sketches for the treatment of the lintel detail , consisting of contrasting gray colored soldier course across the major openings. The color of these lintels is to match the color of the major horizontal band {warm gray} . This treatment was; accepted with the provision that the sills on all windows are also treated with a similar detail of brick sill of the basic building color. The Commission did not concur with the proposal to add sono'tube 'columns at key locations along the building, as proposed by the architect. It was determined that the original design consisting of rectangular or square brick block columns was more 'consistent' with the overall design of the building. The Commission directed the architect to emphasize the entrance element through the use of a pyramid roof of materials similar to the apparatus room, i .e. metal frame with translucent panels of similar pitch. It was also suggested that the top of the masonry element at the entrance should be raised slightly. Staff is to work with the architect to resolve this last remaining issue, and keep the Commission informed: _-., = . -- ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 10:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, -09, P Brad Buller Secretary Planning Commission Minutes - - October 9, 198 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 27, 1989 Chairman cNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger ABSENT* David Blakesley STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Can Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Barry e Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Otto Kroutil, Deputy City Planner; Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that staff recommended withdrawal of item F, to allow the item to be considered at a future time in conjunction with a proposed Hillside'Development Ordinance. Mr. Buller announced that the applicant had requested that items L and M be continued until October 11, 1989. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, carried with Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of August 30, 1989, as amended. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, carried with Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of September 7, 1989, as amended. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to adopt the minutes of September 13, 1989, as amended. CONSENT CALENDAR A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 1 565 � STANDARD PACIFIC - The design review of bui ding e evtions and ed site an Phases 5, and 10 of a previously County-approved map consisting of 108 single family lots on 54.5; acres of land north of Summit Avenue and east of Wardman Bullock Road - APN 6-08 -16, 17, 27. B. TIME EXTENSION FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 85-4 T FF A proposal to construct 5 apartment units on 9.s acres and' in the Medium-High Residential District (1 -24 dwelling unfits per acre) located north of Base Line Redd, 550 feet east of Day Creek Channel APN:: 7 091_21. Associated with the proposal is Tree Removal Permit 87 67. C. MODIFICATION TO DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 12659- - BLA T+ N - The esign review of a new bui ding e evasion and revise unit rr►ix for Phase of a previously approved tract map consisting of 15 single- family lots on: 67. 7 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District 1-2 dwelling units per acre) of the Etiwanda Specific Plan, 'located at the southwest corner of Eti randa Avenue and 24th Street - APN: 5 11- N and 39. Commissioner Chitiea requested that Item A be pulled for discussion. q Motion: Moved by; Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to adopt` Items B and C of the Consent Calendar. A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR -TENTATIVE TRACT '1565 Commissioner Chitiea questioned the number of chimney details. ; Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Kevin Pohlson, Standard Pacific, stated they planned to introduce one or two chimney styles per architectural style. Chairman [ cNel stated` that at Design Review the Committee had requested that the applicant continue the type of treatment from the; face of the house to the chimney. He asked if the design had to return to Design Review. Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, stated that Phases 6 through' B would return' to Design Review, but Phases 5, 9 and 10 would not be returned. Mr. Pohlson Mated the chimney treatments would be consistent with the homes. There were no further public comments. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to adopt the Resolution approving Design Review for Tentative Tract 155. Planning Commission Minutes - September 27, 1989 PUBLIC HEARINGS D. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 9-04 - PEPPERS MC I AN RESTAURANT - The review of provi ink i enertainrentn ronunctio pit restaurant use, located at 9740 19th Street. Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and a copy of a letter of opposition from Century 21, another tenant in the center. Chairman McNiel asked if any development was proposed behind the Stater Brothers Market. i Ms. Pond replied that It was freeway corridor. Chairman McNiel opened the public head Mike Bhatnagar, applicant, requested that the Entertainment Permit be approved for three days per week, Thursday through Saturday, from 9*00 P.M. to 12. 30 A.M. Chairman McNiel stated there have been problem in the past with shopping center entertainment because patrons congregated in the parking lot. Commissioner Weinberger asked how manly people would be in the bands. Mr ha nagar stated there would be a maximum of three band members. Chairman McNiel asked if Mr. ghatnagar had been contacted by anyone ; from Century 21 regarding their opposition to the Entertainment Permit. Mr. Nhatnagar stated he had never seen or taped to them. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea noted that 'staff had responded to the complaint letter, indicating that the actual entertainment hours are not in conflict with operating hours of Century 21. Because any parking increase generated by the entertainment ou'ld not be during business hours of Century 21, she did not feel the argument was a valid reason to deny the Entertainment Permit. She stated there had been a problem with entertainment in another neighborhood center, but the other center had residences adjacent to the business, and Peppers had the freeway corridor adjacent. Commissioners Weinberger and Tolstoy concurred. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if staff had contacted the Sheriff's department to see if there had been any complaints. s Fong stated she had contacted the Sheriff's department, but they did not have any information available. Planning Commission Minutes -3- September 27, 1989 Motion: Moved by Tol toy, seconded ;by Weinberger, to adopt the Resolution approving Entertainment Permit 8 -04. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTCY, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: BLAESLEY -carried E. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT B -t - WESTERN PROPERTIES repose various m nor r evisons to t ` srte p an 5-n-d 65TIding-ae-s- gn of a previously approved 71-'acre shopping center (Terra Vista Towne Center) that involves such items as adjustment to do-site curb line, combination of buildings into one, shifting of building orientation to provide vie corridor, architectural enhancement for building edges , etc., for property located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Foothill Boulevard in the Community Commercial District of the Terra Vista Planned Community APN 1.07 -05, O , and 13. Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. She indicated that Home Depot shorn on the map was not part of this review. In response to a question from Commissioner Tdlstoj regarding the approved phasing plan for the center, Brad Boller, City Planner, stated staff would forward a memo to all the 'Commissioners regarding the status `of the phasing g._ g p - g plan. Chairman M0iel asked the distance from Spruce Avenue to the first driveway on Town Center Drive. Ms Fora responded it was roughly 150,feet.. Chairman McNiel asked if that was an acceptable distance. Ms Fong stated that Engineering policy normally requires approximately OO feet. Chairman McNiel asked if the intersection of Spruce Avenue and Torn Center Drive will be signalized. Barye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated it will be signalized shorty . Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Tour Bond, Architects Pacifica, stated they were requesting the changes because of items addressed in the Design Review process and tenant` requests. He indicated they wanted to combine Buildings E and O into one building because they felt it would make the building easier to lease. He stated all the items had been reviewed at Resign 'Review and he understood they had been tentatively ag,reed to as being reasonable. Planning Commission Minutes ? September 27, 1989 Chairman McNiel asked if the driveway intersection off Spruce Avenue had always been in that location. Mr. Bond indicated the driveway was in conformance with the site plans, but movement to the west would not pose a significant problem. He stated that in looking at potential users for Major 4, there is the possibility that the driveway may need to be enlarged or relocated. He stated they would like to maintain a level of flexibility. He said one prospective tenant for Major 4 would be a larger tenant than the one currently shown and in order to develop the parking necessary, they might propose moving Major 4 back, which would cut the service drive aisle off east of the loading area for Major 4. He stated that would separate truck traffic from most patron traffic and the only cars that would be passing in and out of that drive area would be predominantly those going to or from the TBA, approximately 38 trips per day. He suggested revising the wording of Engineering condition I .a. to include the phrase "to the satisfaction of the City Engineer." Chairman McNiel asked if enlargement of Major 4 would affect the width of the building. Mr. Bond stated it might have a minimal effect on the width, but they would have to retain the small parking area for Building L. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the approval were granted on changes to the Montgomery Ward TBA building, if the applicant would request future changes if Major 4 changed configuration. Mr. Bond stated he felt they would not return for further changes to move the TBA. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the promenade would align properly with the Montgomery Ward facade. Mr. Bond responded it would. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if more parking were needed for Major 4, if parking would be requested in front of Major 4. Mr. Bond responded they would not be requesting head-in parking. He said the only place they propose head-in parking is where the ring road becomes a secondary road internal into the center. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was concerned that if Major 4 needs to be enlarged it would result in a pinched effect around the TBA building and the open feeling would be lost. Mr. Bond felt moving Major 4 to the north would create a positive effect because it would seal off the view corridor looking down the service drive from Spruce Avenue and would impart a stronger anchor feeling for the mall ., Chairman Mcliel asked where the parking would be picked up. Planning Commission Minutes -5- September 27, 1989 Mr. Bond stated they would be converting some of the stalls that are to the rear of the center and relatively inefficient for patrons to the front of the center. He said they re having no trouble meeting the City's criteria for parking , but were having some problems meeting the tenants ' criteria. He sa i d they were attempting to have ample parking by restaurant pad 4 on the corner. He stated if the parking is moved to the front, approximately 50` spaces would be added to the front. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if a tenant had been secured for Building A. Richard i Mager, western Properties, stated a tenant has approved the site but documents have not been signed. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if them would be future requests to change Building A. Mr. Bond responded no and noted that the foundations are already being poured. He requested an opportunity to comment on Planning condition 5. No believed` the conditioned walkaway would encourage pedestrians to walk through and; into the service area and increase the possibility of someone riding a bike through` the corridor out into the; path of a truck at the nearby Montgomery Ward dock. He also noted that the Montgomery ward pick up door will provide access to the main body of the store and would enable patrons to piss through the store. He also felt a pedestrian walkway would encourage Jaywalking and would become o a security problem. He preferred that the item be addressed at the Design Review level and have the condition removed from the Resolution. Chairman McNiel stated several corridors had already been eliminated and the: City wishes to provide for pedestrian access throughout shopping centers'. He indicated the parking behind Buildings d and K would not be used by theatre patrons' because it is too far removed from the theatres. He said that without the corridors by Building K, the only pedestrian thoroughfare is Tong Main Street or through the stores. He felt that perhaps the loading area of Montgomery Bard could be moved` if that presented a problem. He felt any problems generated by the pedestrian walkway could be addressed. Mr. Bond felt there is parking available for shopping patrons and it could be better addressed at Design Review. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that high density housing would be located directly across the street ;and he felt they should have an easy access to the center, Mr. Bond stated that they felt it is better to create a major separation between' buildings' or not create a separation at all. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would prefer to see a ,separation, rather than corridor* Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was 'closed. Planning Commission Minutes - September 27, 198 # ® �` • "` a e. � • a� • � �' i 1 �: , � � # # ,. � �. � � Chairman McNiel stated there are still some questions regarding the Tg building as it relates to Major 4 and signa e, and in light of those questions the Commission wished to hold approval in abeyance until the issues have been resolved. Mr. Mager stated that placed Western Properties in the untenable position of not being able to resolve the Montgomery bard location within the project. Mr. Buller; stated the previous meeting was a workshop of design review matters. He stated ;the workshop did not consider the Conditional Use Permit. He' stated the modifications to the Conditional Use Permit being considered tonight constituted the formal action required as a follow up to the Commission's design workshop. Mr. Bond asked if the City Council were to deny the appeal of sign colors and graphics if the Planning Commission would then give approval of the TS ' without the other issues being resolved, i .e., Major 4» Commissioner Chit ea sated' the driveway adjacent to Spruce would have to be resolved to the satisfaction of the City Engineer. Chairman Mc Niel stated the basic configuration of the building and architecture were acceptable. Commissioners Chitiea and Tolstoy concurred. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was not comfortable with where the building was going to sit.. Mr. Bond stated they could commit that the TBA would sit where it shows on the plan, unless Montgomery Ward withdrew from the project, in which case the building would not be built. Mr. Bond then asked if City Council were to approve the color package requested by Montgomery Ward if the Planning Commission would then approve the TBA. Mr' Buller stated that at the Design Review workshop the, Planning Commission l to the B but rejected the i 'esi `n e package. e stated aye approval 'd g pp g that if the pack i e that has been appealed s not upheld by the City Council, then it goes back to the Planning Commission for approval of the sign age, Ilion color, and tile* l d lion Commissioner Ch °�tiea stated: that if the checkered tile, si na g ge an color are approved, she would not support that TBA in that location because she feels it would be inappropriate to the center, particularly as an entry statement, with the Montgomery r, Ward-requested standards. She stated that the TSA has not ,het been approved in that location. Chairman McNiel stated that when the sign program was first put together, Western' grade' a commitment that they would live up to the sign program. Planning Commission Minutes - - September 27, 1989 Mr. Bond stated they now have a tenant who is unwilling to live with the sign program. Chairman McHiel stated that the developer stated that so long; as they could have the Target red, they were committed to not budge from that; He stated that since the initial program, the developer has submitted many other requests for changes. Mr. Mager felt that perhaps Western Properties was naive in taking their initial position because they failed to recognize that national tenants doing business in multiple states ;gear their advertising around a national ` image and require uniform signage. Commissioner Chitiea stated that the City brought that point up in initial discussions and the developer assured them the approved sign program would be part of the negotiations with prospective tenants. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that Montgomery Ward has not used that signage in the state of California, and in fact indicated they have only used the signage once or twice Chairman Mciel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea supported the Resolution with the modification of excluding area I until the resolution of all design review issues have been reviewed and approved to the satisfaction of the Planning Commission. Mr. Buller suggested rewording Planning condition 5 to indicate the passageway should be located in Building K. Chairman McNiel asked, if the Planning Commission needed to see the driveway location. Commissioner Chitiea felt it should be reviewed in conjunction with the TBA building. Mr. Buller stated the driveway location is a technical issue and should not affect the design. He felt review and approval could be handled by the City Engineer and Planner and returned to the Planning ;Commission only if staff felt a design issue would be raised by adjustment. The Commissioners concurred. Mr. Hanson suggested adding wording for approval by the City Engineer . Motion: ' Moved by Chitiea, seconded byTolstoy, to adopt the Resolution approving Modification` to Conditional Use Permit 88-1 with modifications to exclude approval of area I, provide for a pedestrian walkway through Building , and allow approval of the City Engineer for the easternmost driveway on Town Center Drive. Motion carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes -9- September 27, 1989 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEI'NBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAESLE -carried Chairman McNiel welcomed the attendance of Scout Varsity Team 577, from Alta Loma in the audience. Team Coaches Dennis Coda and Scott Watson indicated they were attending to earn credit toward merit badges for citizenship in the community. F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 6902E CITY OF RANCHO N rtaest to a n e n ,' nvi'ron nta esources, an2 ectlon V, Public Safety, elements; of the General Plan as they relate; to hillside development and grading and will involve revising' the definitions of hillside from 1 or greater to 8 or greater, as well as restricting development on slopes which are or greater*; Chairman McNiel indicated that staff had requested withdrawal of the application to allows it to be heard at a later time in conjunction with a proposed Hillside Development Ordinance. Motion: Moved by Ch;itiea, seconded by McNiol, to withdraw Environmental Assessment and General' Plan Amendment 69-0 E. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TCLSTOY NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: WEINBERG R -carried ` O. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 89-0 - RANCHO CUCAMONGA REDEVELOPMENTN request o a m e Se nt of the nera an r6m hod Control to Civic/Community for 3.15 acres of land, looted on the north side of Banyan Street, east of the Deer Creek Channel APN. 201-191-24. H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 69- 5 RANCHO rgrAWURGA REDEVECOPMENTrequos o a n t o Development; is riot Map; Fora ood ontrol ; to Lowy Residential (2-4 dwelling units per acre) for 3.15 acres of land, located on the north side' of Banyan Street, east of the Deer Creek Channel - AP 201-191-24. Planning Commission Minutes 10- September 27, 1989 I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89- 4 _ RANCHO 111WONGA-1-50—EVEL' EN A N Y - dee oprent a ire station` tota ing 11,0 squares on 3.15 acres of land in the Flood Control District, located on the north side of Banyan 'Street, east of the Deer Creek Channel - APN: 01-191.- 4. Associated with this project is General Plan Amendment 89-02D and Development District Amendment 89-05. J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 12779 ® RANCHO CUC ` ONGA �NA�N � he eve nt o 1 �ac�res into parcewithin therdl oeeloprent istrict, cated�andt he north' side of Banyan Street, east of Deer Creek Channel - AN: 0111- 4.' Otto 'Kroutil, Deputy City planner, presented the staff report* Commissioner Chitiea asked if the elevations shown were the final designs for Eire Station; No. 5. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Larry Wolff, Wolff/L .ng/Christopher, stated there were still some minor revisions which were not shown. Commissioner Chitiea stated the glass shown on the elevations went all the way' to the ground. Mr. Wolff stated the revision to a bays window was not caught when the elevations were revised. Chairman McNiel asked if the screen wall should be brick to match the building or natural river rock to be compatible with the balance of the wall running in either direction.; Commissioner Tolstoy preferred brick, as it would be a snort wall with pilasters 40 feet; apart. He felt it should fit the fire station} Commissioner Chitiea felt it should be internally consistent with the fire station. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that them will be ,a lot of brick on the building and he did not feel another material should he introduced on such a >short wall . Chairman McNiel felt the wall relates more to the streetscape than to the building. He preferred natural stone. Brad Buller, City planner, stated according to the cross 'section on the plans the wall would not be visible to the public ' street because of a proposed landscape beer in front of it. He stated it would be like a retaining wall. Chairman McNiel stated that the portion exposed to the parking lot side should be brie. Planning Commission Minutes; -11- September 27, 1989 Mr. Wolff stated they would use brick and plaster for the wall . Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea concurred that the wall should be brig. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolutions recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 89020 and Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 9- 5 and approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89-24 and Environmental Assessment and Parcel Map 12779, with a modification to provide for a stucco and brick `screen wall , Motion Carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, T 'LSTO , WEI BEPCER NOES: COMMISSIONERS:S: NON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: LA ESLEY -carried K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-23 - RANCHO WCARONGX- RED A l e e e oilmen -a ire station,; r aintenance aci i y, training enter and training tower totaling 36,328 square feet on 7.08 acres of land in the Minimum Impact Heavy Industrial District (Subarea of the Industrial Area Specific Plan,; located at the southwest corner of the proposed extensions of Jersey Boulevard and Milliken Avenue - APN: 229-111-23. Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel asked if the tower were not included, where the building would e d. r. Kroutil stated that the detailing would still ` need to be reviewed by Design Review. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the color~ has been selected. Mr. Kroutil stated current direction called for a warm gray stripe with reddish' burgundy ;12-inch block and samples were available for review. He stated the colors could still' be addressed with the discussion of the detailing. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Larry Wolff, Wolff/Lang/Christopher, stated he was available to answer questions. Dennis 'Michael, Rancho Cucamonga Eire District, stated he appreciated the support received from the RDA, Planning, and Engineering staff. Planning Commission Minutes - 2 September 27', 1989 Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Chairman McNiel felt there should be one more Design Review to polish off the details. Commissioner Chitiea stated'' she would like to see the item at Design Review. She felt the small entry element does not make a satisfactory statement. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred. Chairman McNiel stated he would like to attend and proposed a full Commission workshop. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated it would be necessary to adjourn to such a. workshop. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to ask if the architect would be prepared to attend a workshop on October S, 1989. Mr. Wolff confirmed they could. Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was again closed. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution` approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 3 -23, ' with modification to provide for additional review of building details by the Planning Commission. Motion carried by the following vote; AYES: C ISS104ERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, WEI BER ER NOES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: 3LAKESLEY -carried L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 9-02C - FUTURE ESTATE, INC- - request t amend the Generalan La Use Map rom Office to di eum density Residential g-14' dwelling units per acre) for 3.56 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Church Street. The City will also consider Neighborhood Commercial and Loan Medium Density Residential as appropriate alternative designations. APN 107-33 -26. M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT NO. 9-04 - U RE ESTATE, INC—. - request to a n e eve op nt istricts api r ice/Professional) to "M" (Medium Density,; 8-14 dwelling units per acre) for 3.556 acres of land looted at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Church Street. The City' will also consider "NC" (Neighborhood Commercial) and "LM"` (LowyMedium) as appropriate alternative districts. APN.* 17 -332-2E. Planning Commission Minutes -13- September 27', 1989 Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger, to continue Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 89-0 C and Environmental Assessmen and Development District Amendment 89-04 to October 11, 1989 at the request of the applicant® Motion carried by the following vote:' AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOL,STOY, WEINBERGER NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: ` COMMISSIONERS: BLAESLEY carried 8:45 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 9:00 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened N. PRESENTATION OF PLANS FOR RANCHO CUCAMONGA HIGH SCHOOL, NORTHWEST CORNER VICTORIAPARK LANE AND E E - ra sport by Wo , Lang , h_risfop er Brad Buller, City Planner, introduced Steve Butters, Director of Business Services for Chaffey Joint Union High School District, and Dale Lang and Tony Palmisano of Wolff/Lang/Christop er, project architects. Mr. Buller stated that early in the process, the School District contacted the City and they discussed road alignment, site plans, etc. Mr. Lang stated that a typical high school has 40 acres. He stated that several other schools have drainage problems because they have located access on the south' side' of the site., Therefore, they have located ;access for the Rancho Cucamonga High School' on the north end of the site. Because of growth in the area, he stated they were pressed to; place as many buildings as possible on the :site. He indicated the state requires that 30 of the classrooms be relocatable, and therefore access is required to allow for movement of the relocatable buildings. He stated the campus would ;have single, two-story, and three-story buildings with a square in the center for ' students to congregate' during breaks and lunch. Mr. Lang presented a video presentation of the site and computer modelings of the buildings. Commissioner Weinberger asked how mange students could be accommodated. Mr. Lang stated they were building to accommodate 2,500 students. Tony Palrisano discussed the elevations. M . Lang showed the materials board. Chairman McNiel asked the percentage of smooth vs. split faced blocks. Planning Commission Minutes -1 - September 27, 1989 Lang responded it would be approximately g smooth* He stated that the state only allots, 1 '` per square foot for construction. Mr. Butters stated the School District was happy with the design, but the biggest i question is funding. He said the School District would be notified in early 1990 if they will receive a portion of the dune 1990i bond issue. He said that both Alta Lora and Etiwanda ;High Schools are overcrowded. He stated they hoped to open Rancho i Cucamonga High in 1991, and by 1992 it would be full . Chairman Mciel asked about eaves details. ' Mr. Palmisano stated that ;gutters and parapet cap flashing will he used as accent detail . Commissioner Tolstoy asked how the number of parking spaces were calculated. Mr. Lang stated that the state dictates the size of the total site. He said they went high density with the 2 and d story, and parking gut what was left over after the playing fields. . Palmisano stated there would be almost 600 parking spaces. Lang stated the east parking lot would be for student parking and the west parking lot would be for teachers, visitors, and perhaps seniors. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that parking becomes a neighborhood problem, Ile' asked if there would be any mitigation measures for shielding the parking lot from Lark Drive. Mr'. Palmisano stated them would be some beming and landscaping to help conceal the lot. Commissioner Tolstoy commented that at many schools the parking lot rears the appearance of the architecture. He asked how graffiti would be handled. Mr'. Lang stated it could be sandblasted off the blocks. Commissioner Chitiea asked what type of fencing is proposed. r'. Palmisano stated wrought iron would be used around the buildings; and chain link around the fields. Chairman Model asked the roof material. Mr. Land responded that it would be ;asphalt shingle with a salt and pepper application to give more texture. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to see designs used to break up the expanses of wall . Planning Commission Minutes September 27', 199 3 Mr. Buller suggested banding on the three-story columns and requested that the architect contact the City for the landscape palette. Commissioner Tolstoy thanked the School District for making the presentation and working with the City. Chairman McNiel asked when they were supposed to break ground. Mr'. Butters stated that depending on funding, they 'hoped to break: ground on March 15, 1990 and would like to open in September 1991. Commissioner Chitiea suggested they +plant vines on the ;exterior chain link fence. She suggested they might consider a flowering trumpet vine. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested bougainvillea. Mr. Lang stated that police like to have an unobstructed view of the campus. Chairman McNiel believed it might be important for the Commission to work with the School District as these final design issues are addressed. r Buller asked if the 'planning Commission wished to consider appointing a working subcommittee. He said the subcommittee could then report back to the full Commission as meetings 'occur. Commissioner Chitiea suggested Commissioner Tolstoy serve on the subcommittee. Chairman McNiel stated he would like to serve on the subcommittee. It was the consensus of the Commission that Commissioners McNiel and Tolstoy would serve on the subcommittee. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the school was planning an access from Victoria Park Lane. r. Lang indicated they were not. Commissioner Chitiea suggested the school provide pedestrian access from Victoria parr. Lane so students could more easily wa,lk to the school campus. Mr tang felt that access from the south would encourage students to jaywalk across Victoria park Dane. Chairman McNiel felt that another access should be considered for use of the ball fields. He thanked the School District for their presentation and stated he looked forward to addressing a- few more of the design issues as a subcommittee. D. ADVERTISING REGULATIONS FORAUTO SALES CENTERS Planning Commission Minutes - - September 27, 1989 Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report." Chairman McNiel asked ghat prompted City Council to consider the: item. Mr. Buller stated that Council Member Buquet raised the issue after having been approached by an automobile dealer who wished to have sign standards considered to allow for such things as flying of balloons. Commissioner Chitiea felt that it might be appropriate to consider drafting a special sign ;program for a large 'auto sales center, perhaps based on acreage, but she felt it was inappropriate to grant special consideration to an individual ear lot. Commissioner Tolstoy felt that automobile dealers have a better opportunity to display their wares than any other commercial activity. He saw no reason for car dealers to have circus-like displays. He said he would be willing to consider changing the sign program for an auto center located next to the freeway. Commissioner Weinberger felt changing the standards for an individual dealer would set an undesirable precedent. She was willing to consider changes for an auto mall . Commissioner Tolstoy felt no blanket approval should be given, but changes could be considered for an auto mall. Chairman McNiel felt there was no rush to approve the flying of balloons. Commissioner Chitiea felt that any changes should be consistent with other uses of similar size. It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that amendments to the Sign Ordinance should not be pursued at this time and would be ' pursued for regional auto center if and when an application is submitted. r. Buller stated that the Commission's feelings would be relayed to City Council . COMMISSION BUSINESS It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to set the second meeting of November for November 29, 1989. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that most commercial buildings being presented in Design Review were using mostly stairstep painted facades to add interest to otherwise monotonous walls. He suggested considering a revision to the Development !Code to reflect the requirement that buildings have more than one< tutu Planning Commission Minutes -17- September 27, 1989 Commissioner �ea suggested there should � pl ane changes in the ; building face Brad Buller, i Planner, suggested discussion anne st d scuss�on of textures, colors and: materials within the Industrial Specific Area at the October 11, 1989 Planning Commission meeting. Chairman Mciel requested a review of the street naming policy. He was concerned that the City is losing the opportunity to nacre some streets with significant historical names. Dan Coleman, Principal: Manner, stated that the City adopted a street naming' ordinance which states that no streets should have difficult names * PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further- public comments at this time. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Weinberger, unanimously carried, to adjourn. 1 P.M. -; Planning Commission Adjourned to an October 5, 1989 workshop at Lion®s Park Community Center at 8:00 P.M. following Design Review to review design details of dire Station Not 4. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bu ler Secretary Planning Commission Minutes -1 September 27, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCN40NGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 13, 1989 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at *DD P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base 'Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman' cNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT; David Blak sley, Larry McNiol, Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger, Suzanne Chtiea ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Tom Crahn, Assistant Planner; Jerry Guarracino, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph' Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Russ Magui re, City,; Engineer; Kelly Orta, Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the Commission needed to pull Item A off the Consent Calendar in order to make modifications to the Planning Division's conditions of approval'. Mr. Buller announced that tonight's meeting would adjourn to a special workshop with the City Council regarding the Regional Mall on September , ' 1989 at 6: 30 p.m. at Li.on's Park Community Center, Mr. Buller reported on the Fourth Street Rock Crusher. He stated that the County Planning Commission will hear the Cty's 'and Supervisor Mikels' appeal on Thursday, September 1 , 1989 at 9:30 a.m. APPROVAL' OF MINUTES Motion, Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakeley, unanimously carried, to adopt- the minutes of the adjourned meeting of August 17, 1989. Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, carried with Chitiea! abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the meeting of August 23, 1989 CONSENT CALENDAR A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 12820 AND 13727 _; SOUTHLAND DEVELOPMENT - The design review of hui ing e evations and site plan for two previously approved tracts consisting of 28 single family lots on 8. 8 acres of (land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Carnelian Street and Highland Avenue - APN: 281- 214-10 and 11 Mr. Buller suggested revisions of the Resolutions to reference tract numbers and a correct Resolution number. Chairman McNiel questioned if the changes were only for identification ' clarification. Mr. Buller responded affirmatively. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to adopt the Consent Calendar as modified.' PUBLIC HEARINGS B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-25 - DINIE LI - A request to estab ih a retail sales outlet o 3O O square eet within a 14,400 square 'foot light; wholesale establishment in the General Industrial District, (Subarea' 4) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at the northwest corner of 7th Street and Archibald Avenge - APN. 209-171- 5. Jerry Cuarracino, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public< hearing. John Didielli , 8554 7th Street, the application, stated he was available to; answer any questions. Chairman McNiel asked what he would be selling. Mr.' Dinielli stated that he would be selling cleaning supplies, non-perishable groceries, canned goods, and boxed goods. He added that they :are a wholesale company,; established in 1981 in Los iAngeles. He said they run two retail outlets in Arizona± and ;would like' to expand into the Inland Empire. He stated they are a type of liquidator, with 'limited accounts, selling to members of nobody discount stores. Chairman McNiel asked if the business would be open to the public. Mr. Diniel li 'responded that the retail portion will be. He stated the other portion requires a resale number. Planning Commission Minutes -2'- September 13, 1989 Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Ch it iea state that the biggest concerns would have been parking and the impact on other facilities. Since they are providing the correct number of spaces and it does not seem to be a use that would create any problems , she stated she would support it. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy to adept the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 9® . Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, MCNIEL» BLA ESLEY, WEIN ERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS C. FIRE 'STATIONS 4 AND 5 - Discussion of materials. Mr. Buller stated that the matter was before the Commission tonight as a follow-up to previous Commission reviews; As a result, Chairman McNiel! and Vice-Chair Chitiea, had a chance to meet with the architect and staff to review these latest concept plans. He stated the Banyan site was originally designed to be an all brick facility, but had been changed to have brick at the lower portion of the building with stucco above. He requested the Commission's concurrence for comments on the design concept before preparation of the final plans which will be presented along with the Conditional' Use Permit at the September 27, 1989 Planning Commission meeting. Chairman McNiel stated they have eliminated the glass block, they have run a ' wainscot across the bottom of the bays window, and added the white korbel at the cave on a 3-step condition. Commissioner Blakesley questioned' the color of the roll-up doors. Chairman+ M Niel stated the roll-up doors will be white. Commissioners Tolstoy and Rlakesley stated that the modification was acceptable as shown. Commissioner Weinberger questioned if the modifications were made because the fire station is located within a residential district. Chairman McNiel stated they were taring to capture a residential flavor, rather than an institutional flavor, within a residential neighborhood. Planning Commission Minutes - - September 13, 1989 Commissioner Weinberger asked if the stucco does this . Chairman McNiel responded more so than a solid brick building . Commissioner Chitiea questioned if score lines do not impart commercial /industrial look back into it. Chairman McNiel stated that the score lines are to be minor and are necessary in the construction process to allow for expansion, Larry Wolff, Wolff/Lang/Christopher, architect for the fire station, stated that the reason for the plaster separation joint is to primarily control expansion and contraction for the exterior plaster that will be installed over the concrete block. He stated there are some tricks of the trade that can be used to off-set the amount of ' separation joints that might be used. He suggested reinforcing the plaster mix. with "fiberglass or straw to help provide a more reinforced plaster mixture which would increase the thickness from the normal 1/2 inch cover, going to a full , /4 or 7/8 inch, Which would be found` in a woodframe house and beefing up the lath underneath as well . He stated if they specify an integral color system and insist the contractor* also paint, this would eliminate the amount of expansion joints. He stated when the plans are submitted, they will try to identify those areas where they think they need some joint control. Commissioner Weinberger questioned the Fire District's comments on the stucco as opposed to brick. Chairman McNiel responded that they were represented at the meeting and they have agreed to the proposed changes. Mr.. Wolff clarified that although the Fire District accepts the change, their preference is still the masonry building. He stated' the primary concern with any fire district with respect to astucco building is the maintenance requi rements. However, he stated that he does` not think that the design as modified will be any more" difficult or ' costly to maintain, nor be less permanent or in cable. Co mission Chitiea stated she appreciated the <cooperation received from Wolff and everyone involved in this project. She stated that this station is going to be an asset not only to the community, but the particular neighborhood in which it is located. She believed the development review process had worked extremely ll for this project. She further stated the City"s own projects need to reflect the same high standards required of the private sector, and this project should be a model public building. Commissioner 'Tolstoy concurred. The Commission concurred on the materials and design concept. Planning; Co fission Minutes -4- September 13, 1989 C. AMENDMENT TO THE INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE VACATION OF 7TH STREET RETW N HER SA A N E NB HE BEER I REEK [ANN L Toga Crahn, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea questioned what the basis was for allowing the previous vacation of that portion. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated he did not know. He stated that ` 7th Street was never intended to go all the way through. Mr. Crahn stated he has received comments from , the Cucamonga County Water District stating they have an easement that runs down the center of what would be the extension of yth Street between Hermosa and the Deer Creek Channel and they are not opposed to the vacation request, so long as their easement remains in tact. Ruts Maguire, stated if the Commission concurs with the ;proposed elevation, the developer must still go ithrough the full technical procedure for vacation, at which time protection of 'easement rights will be addressed. Chairman McNiel clarified that the Commission is not vacating at this point in time, but directing staff to initiate an amendment to the Specific Plan to allow vacation. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he is is always sorry to see a vacation of any logical pathway in the City. He stated 7th Street was really never a viable east-west thoroughfare because of other considerations* He concurred with the vacation of 7th Street. Commissioner Chitiea concurred with Commissioner Tolstoy's remarks. Motion: Moved by Chitiea seconded by Rlakesley, unanimously carried to direct staff to prepare an amendment to the Industrial Specific Plana The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA1, TCLSTTCY, BLA ESLEY, MCNIEL, WEIN ER E ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no further Commission Business. Planning Commission Minutes September 1 ,' 1989 PULIC'CCMMENT There were no Public Comments at this time. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Mowed by Blakesley, seconded by Tulstcy, unanimously carried, to adjourn. 7. 30 P.M. - Planning Commission adjourned to the ,mint City C unciI/Planning Commission special workshop of September 26, 1989, at 6:30 P.M. at the Lanes Park Community Center to discuss the Regional Mall . Respectfully submitted, A Arad 9u ler City Planner Planning Commission Minutes - - September 1 , 199 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION AND PARKS COMMISSION JOINT MEETING MINUTES Adjourned Meeting September 7, 1989 Etiwanda North Parks Workshop; Chairman McNiel called the adjourned September 7, 1989 Joint Workshop of the Pare Commission and Planning Commission to order at approximately :30 P.M. at the Neighborhood Center, 9791. Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga, California. The purpose of the meeting was to review the parks element of the Etiwanda North Specific Plane ROLE. CALF. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: David Blakesley+, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry Mciel , Peter Tolstoyr ABSENT: Betsy Weinberger PARKS COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. Molly Mitchell , Leslie Riggs, Mark Whitehead ABSENT: Pang Henry, Sam Punter STAFF PRESENT: Miki Brtt, Associate Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner, Dave Leonard, Parks Projects Coordinator; Russ Maguire,' City Engineer; Joe' Schultz, Community Services Manager Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the purpose' of the meeting was to review the parks element of the Etiwanda North Specific Plan. Mr. Buller also stated, that because the applicant is irequesting a Development Agreement, the City can negotiate for more than the 3 acres per thousand population mandated by the State under the Quimby Act. Commissioner 'Tolstoy+ asked if the park proposals were consistent with City goals if lands encumbered by utility easements and earthquake easements were subtracted and if them would be sufficient usable land after grading. Joe Schultz, Community Services Manager, presented a brief background on the proposed parks element, including' initial meetings with Parks Consultant Pete Oangermond, Dangermond '& Associates, to establish an overall parks and open space concept, as well as recent meetings with ,toe Dilorio, representing the Etiwanda' North Consortium of Landowners, to discuss specific proposals. Mr. Schultz said, the applicant proposes to meet the Quimby Parks Act mandate of 3 acres of unencumbered land per thousand population* The applicant also proposes to provide the City goal of an additional 2 acres per; thousand population through development of encumbered land for park use, trails, and a ' financial contribution to development of the Community Park to be located in Etiwanda adjoining Summit Avenue Elementary School * Mr. Schultz said, Mr. DiIorio has discussed park funding through a hello-Roos District for acquisition and development of neighborhood parks; and the community park. Most recently, Mr. Dilor°io has proposed a $2,500 fee per residential unit fixed fee. Mr. Schultz said the proposal would be more than the current City fee, but less than needed to acquire and develop the proposed parks in the specific plan area. Dave Leonard, Parks Projects Coordinator, said that the current park fee is low and will be revised shortly. Mr. Leonard also said that a fee established at this time would be inadequate to acquire and develop parks in future years because of inflation factors. He stated that dedication of developed parks would be preferred in the Specific Plan area. Miki Dratt, Associate Planner, presented a site by site review of the Specific Plan park element. Commissioner Chitiea stressed the need for an equestrian center in the Specific Plan area. A general discussion followed on the size and location of an equestrian center, as well as its relationship to the pares requirement. The 'consensus reached was that the applicant should be requested to dedicate a site for equestrian use as mitigation for loss of horse property within the Equestrian ` Overlay Zone. The site should be a minimum of 25 acres. The equestrian site would be in addition to City park requirements. The Southern California Edison surplus property site west of Day Creek Boulevard may not be suitable in size or adequately buffered from residential property* Ms. Bratt, continued the site by site review of park elements. The Commissioner's then decided to summarize their recommendations. Following is a summary of the Commission comments: General Consensus: Site locations are generally suitable for neighborhood park use. Unencumbered usable park acreage determines park credit, therefore,fo a grading study must be submitted and usable acreage after grading must yield a minimum 5 acre pad for each site. Neighborhood Park Development must meet the minimum of 3 acres of unencumbered land per thousand population under the Quimby Act. Additional park acreage to meet the City goal of '5 acres per thousand population must be negotiated by staff with the applicant. Neighborhood parks should be ready for use when the "nth" person moves in. Planning and Parks Commission Minutes - - September 7, 198 I Financing should be either by City fees in place at the time of development or by developer contribution of an agreed upon site, developed per City ; specifications. Maintenance costs for parks and open space to be negotiated by staff. Current estimate is 550 per unit. Staff is directed to meet with the school district to determine suitability of school sites which may be developed in conjunction with park sites. Combined' sites gust be large enough to greet school and park requirements. I Unencumbered park sites should not be shown on floodway, flood easement, or flood control land. Guarantees for public use of easements must be secured for park use are for trail use. Site Specific Consensus. G-1: Reverse location of school and park sites to protect users from traffic hazards. D- : Site in existing Flood Control easement: Relocate this site to adjacent property not under Flood Control easement. - : Linear fault area provides visual open space and trails but is not suitable for Park Credit. D-4: Edison surplus land East of Day Creek Boulevard; Consensus that the entire Edison surplus land, consisting of approximately 35 acres, east of Day Creek Boulevard is suitable for a park site and 'should be obtained. Edison surplus land West of Day Creek Boulevard. May be suitable for an equestrian center.; p if a minimum of 25 acres can be obtained, o if a buffer is provided between equestrian use and higher density lots, o With the understanding that the equestrian center is mitigation for lack of equestrian lots within the Specific plan and therefore, no park credit will be awarded' for the equestrian center. 0- : Lower site partially encumbered by fault is not an acceptable ' location. Instead, there is unanimous support for acquisition of a g. acre site on the knoll adjacent to the bog to be used for passive recreation and possible future nature center in conjunction with the bog preservation. Preservation of the knoll and bog is consistent with the General Plan policy of preserving natural features. Planning and Parks Commission Minutes -3- September 7, 1989 - , Unanimous support for protection of the bog . U-7. Viewpoint a goad idea as a trail stop, but because of size and maintenance constraints not suitable for Quimby park credit. U-S. Equestrian Trail Head is shown on Fled Control property. Site should be relocated off Fred Control property. U- . The City his acquired the Community park site. Funding of development should be further reviewed. 0-10. Unanimous support for preserving the Ranger Station knoll as an, appropriate site for a park and nature study center. Trails Consensus: Park credit is recommended for improved trails only. A detailed Master Plan of trams mist be submitted as soon as possible to the Trails Committee, indicating: Portions which will use existing roads o Portions which will be improved p Trail destinations such as treilheeds and features such as the gaging station Commissioner McNiel added ;that the gauging station should be added as protected site for public use. Commissioner Chit ea concurred and added that the adjoining man ani a habitat should be preserved. There followed a discussion :of pursuing annexation of the Specific Plan area, with general consensus that annexation would be beneficial to the City. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at approximately 10; p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary to the Planning Commission Planning and parks Commission Minutes - - September 7, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting August 30, 1989 Etiwanda North Hillside Development Workshop Chairman McNiel called the special workshop to order at S. O P.M. at the Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS, PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Betsy Weinberger STAFF PRESENT: Miki Bra t, Associate Planner, Brad Buller, City Planner, Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, Rick Gomez, Community Development Director, Loyd Goolsby, Senior Plan Checker,, Jeff Gravel , Assistant Planner, Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil; Engineer; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner;, Otto Krouti l , Deputy City Planner; Russ Maguire, City Engineer, Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Cindy Norris, Associate Planner Chairman McNiel began the meeting by introducing the Planning Commission and staff members to the group. Joe Oilorio introduced representatives of the consortium, which included Jess Harris and Jan Meisel of The Land/Plan/Design Group, Chris i Pauls, Past Gibbons,; and Paul Taylor of Etiwanda Heights, Inc.; Milo Kearny, Richard Douglas, and Kent Phillips of Landmark Land, and Worn Tracy, Tom Hague, and Ray Allard of uscoe, 'Williams, Lindgren, and Short. Brad Buller, City Planner, preceded the staff report with introductory remarks. He stated that during the development of the Etiwanda Specific Plan, grading '; had been discussed as an issue. He said the Planning Commission had expressed concern with grading proposed in this Plan and elsewhere in the City, and as a result staff prepared the Hillside Ordinance. ' He stated the purpose of this meeting was to gear the concerns of the affected landowners and staff's comments and conclude with some direction from the Planning Commission with regard to the Etiwanda North Specific Plan: Cindy Norris, Associate Planner, gave an oral presentation outlining the significant issues identified in the staff report. Jess Harris, of Land/Plan/Design, began his presentation by passing out copies of an exhibit prepared by Fusco , Williams, Lindgren, and Short illustrating; general ?slope gradients in the Specific Plan area. Mr. Harris then presented a brie description of the Specific Plan concept. He stated that the intent of the Specific Plan is to ' create a prestige- oriented community using a comprehensive package which involves a layering effect of landscaping , architecture, open space, and other` amenities. He`also stated that he felt that the development standards contained within the text accomplish their intent. Mr. Harris then gave a slue presentation to illustrate similar concepts and situations that they hoped to achieve as a "result of the Specific Plan. Commissioner Tolstoy asked Mr. Harris if most of the slides were of public lands and rights-of-way. He expressed concern that the use and treatment o public lands does not help interior tract situations,' Mr. Harris responded that they were attempting to create a community image' from a distance. r. Harris then presented plans and illustrations and further explained the Consortium's intent and conceptual overview of the Specific Plan. He explained that the Specific Plan attempts to creme a comprehensive whole through ; the use of layering. He shored photographs of a streetscape scene to illustrate the type of image that they hoped to create along 24th Street, in which the grading; on the site would be placed where people could see it on a day to day basis . Next Mr. Harris focused on the conceptual plans for the "Crest" project. He stated the grading concept proposed involves leveling the site internally while taking up the grades in greenbelt paseos and along streets in order to create open space amenities. He discussed techniques of using landscaping to create the appearance of contouring the land. In addition, the treatment o the central paseo was discussed. A cuss section of the paseo showed proposed' slope heights of between 85 to 10 feet. ' Additionally, Mr. Harris discussed proposed internal tract treatments including landscaping between homes and on corner lots. ' Mr. Harris then presented a brief overview of the conceptual site design proposed by Landmark Land. He stated that they have attempted to locate much of the golf in the northern areas of the site and maintain as much of the natural terrain as possible, while concentrating residential development to the south on approximately 10,000 square foot lots. Kent Phillips of ,Landmark Land then continued the presentation by describing the development concept in further detail. He stated that their goal is to create a nice viewshed and to protect the hills as much as possible. Chairman Mc Niel interjected' that the goal is to minimize grading as much a possible, use the natural terrain as much as possible, and create aesthetically pleasing viewscapes. Commissioner olstoy asked 'Mr* Phillips what precautions have been taken in the plan to protect the source of water to the b Planning Commission Minutes - - August 30, 199 Mr. Phillips responded that they did not yet have the final biological report, but he believed the environmental consultant would submit it by September H, 1989. Mr. Harris stated that;the Consortium would prefer that the Specific'Plan show proposed conceptual lot designs, recognizing that standards shown this evening must be implemented and if not, then the conceptual design could not be built. Chairman McNiel expressed concern that specific criteria are needed to ensure the City that the specific items discussed become rea`lity.' Mr. Harris stated he felt than there would be adequate protection because there will be a site plan and cross section contained in the Specific plan. ` If'a new property 'owner should choose to change the concept, the project would then have to go through the review process again. Chairman McNiel indicated that normally the City sets minimum standards. He felt that the Ordinance should be as rigid as possible and that the Variance ' process is available when there are special circumstances with adequate justification. r.. Di orio stand that he disagreed that the purpose of the Hillside Ordinance should be to reduce grading. He expressed concern that the proposed concepts, such as a greenbelt paseos and clustering would net be possible ' under the proposed Hillside Ordinance standards. He did agree' that there may be room to tighten the standards contained in the proposed Specific Plan. Mr. Harris commented that the plan should be designed to implement site specific design, rather than developing restrictive standards which give flexibility only to the City to later malice determinations about relaxing the standards. He indicated that they would be willing to write standards to implement the concepts proposed tonight, out that he did not want his hands tied. Chairman McNiel responded that he felt that is the reason for the Variance process.; Mr.' Dilorio interjected that the Hillside Ordinance looks at the issue straight from a planning perspective and he felt the method the Consortium proposed is the best way, although it may need to be tightened up. Mr. Dilorio stated that the Hillside Development Ordinance will result in a loss of units which will affect economics. In addition, he indicated that any annexations which ' have occurred in the City were a result of the fact that developers were able to get more units in the City than the County. He indicated that was not the ease with this 'project. He stated the Consortium is willing to create a better project, but the densities that can be achieved in the County have to be achieved in the City. Richard Douglas of Landmark Land indicated that the Hillside Ordinance as proposed is not flexible enough to allow their conceptual design. Planning Commission Minutes - - August 30, 1989 Paul Taylor of Etiwanda Heights indicated that he would run into problems if the Ordinance were adopted and they would not be able to develop as they had planned.. Chairman McNiel requested that Larry Henderson discuss those areas were there may be specific areas of conflict. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, replied that staff had one in-depth muting with the Consortium members to discuss this -issue before writing the staff report, and that the appendix of the report contained staff"s analysis of the Specific Plan grading section. Additionally, he 'indicated that when copies of the proposed ordinance were sent to the Consortium 'members, staff ` had specifically requested that they quantify and qualify those areas where the Ordinance may not work with the plan. As of; yet,' that information had not been articulated to stiff. He stated that it is still staff's position that there is enough flexibility in the proposed Ordinance to take into account ' special circumstances because the Ordinance is not all "shalls", that it does contain <"should ", and that there are places were it talks about consideration of individual circumstances. Additionally, Mr. Henderson ' indicated` that much of the flexibility had been added at the request of the Commissioners, as they realized that there may be cases where` the City would want to allow someone to exceed the standards in order to achieve some other specific quality. Mr. Henderson stated that he had heard concern about the following specific issues. ` 1) density reductions, based on the slope analysis and ) the use of stepped foundations, both north and south of the Edison corridor where there are eight (H) percent grades. He mentioned that the last item was added at the Commission's suggestion in order to give theca the flexibility to request' alternative designs when reviewing production house designs. Mr . Dilorio was concerned about relying on the "shold " which would require staff to make judgment calls. He stated he felt that as the tentative tract process progresses, the ability to be subjective can be overwhelming. He suggested that perhaps' these judgment calls should be referred to the; City Council because one of the deal points the Consortium asks, regardless of anything else, is that the density that is allowed in the County be allowed in the City. Commissioner Blaesley stated he felt that he would need more information about the exact problems the Consortium' has with the proposed Hillside Development Ordinance. He liked the paseo concept and concentrating slopes in public areas. He said generally, he did not favor massive grading, but in some of the alluvial areas he did not see a lot of character to be preserved and that the proposed concepts could create the type of community that would be an asset. As a result, he supported some of the things the Consortium was proposing. Commissioner Chitiea indicated that the paeo concept is interesting and that perhaps ;wording could be added to the proposed Ordinance to allow the paseo, concept within specific parameters, without significantly changing the intent and bulk of the Ordinance. She indicated that she is uncomfortable with the Planning Commission Minutes -4- August 30, 1989 f . ar®! it � � � m e � « w� r � M " � i " i, # �.. .�.; � .. � ,� �...� w � ice.. indicated to the Planning Commission that he would like to hear specific concerns or ideas about the concepts proposed tonight. Chairman McNiel stated that the Planning Commission generally did not have any objection to the concepts proposed. However, he indicated that since the Consortium members are more familiar with the site, that they identify the specific problems rather than having the Planning Commission try to identify the problems . Additionally, Chairman Mc Niel stated that the Consortium needs to deal with the Hillside Ordinance. He suggested that the Consortium review the proposed Ordinance and present alternatives for those areas of concern. Commissioner Blakesley expressed concern that it sounded as if the Consortium was suggesting that the City set the Hillside Ordinance aside, allow the developers to design as they go along, that all should work together, and that it will all be fine. He indicated that he did not feel comfortable with an approach which is that unstructured. Mr. DiIorio interjected that they will take a shot at reviewing the Ordinance, suggest the changes they feel necessary, and work with staff to try and reach a conclusion. Mr. Douglas asked the Planning Commission if there was an acceptance of what they had seen tonight. Chairman McNiel indicated that the Planning Commission had not offered any negative comments. Commissioner Chitiea interjected that she could not say that the Oak Summit Plan was acceptable. Mr. Douglas stated that they were referring to the grading concepts only. Commissioner Chitiea stated that as mentioned earlier by staff, she agrees that there should be both landscaping and contour grading required. Chairman cNiel asked if staff was comfortable with the direction that the proposed Ordinance is acceptable to the degree that it applies to Rancho Cucamonga, but that upon further review the may be some modifications in reference to the Etiwanda North Specific Plan. Mr. Henderson replied that staff had received adequate direction from the Commission. He indicated that staff feels that there may be room to fine tune the document to allow a greater comfort level fo,r the Consortium while articulating in greater detail what the Planning Commission is trying to accomplish. Mr. Henderson stated that a realistic look at a time frame for submittal and review of the revisions would be necessary. He indicated that Jess Harris had mentioned that he could have a revised document to staff within two weeks. As a result, because of required scheduling and conflicts with prior meetings, a second workshop would probably not occur until the first week of October. Planning Commission Minutes -6- August 30, 1989 Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that he would like to add that the Engineering Division has concerns with the proposed street grades due to maintenance problems . He did not feel that exceptions to the standards should be automatic. Commissioner Chitiea indicated that the quality of the landscape material and its maintenance is of significant concern to the City. She stated she did not want to see strut grading problems built into a project and expressed her opposition to private' gated communities, as problems in a gated community; often become problems of the City. dr. Buller added that careful plant material selection is important and must take into account the grind problem in the area. 1r. Dilorio stated that the Consortium would work with staff and that he hoped; r. Henderson could get their back to the Planning Commission as soon as possible. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned, at 7:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, grad Rut er Secretary li Planning Commission Minutes - August 30, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 23, 1989 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road,' Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL SALE COMMISSIONERS': PRESENT: David Blakesley, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger ABSENT: Suzanne Chitiea STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Darr Coleman, Principal Planners Nancy Fong, Senior Planner* Craig Fox, Deputy City Attorney; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, Steve Ross, 'Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez,, Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS' Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that this evening's meeting would adjourn to two upcoming workshops. The first workshop will be held on Wednesday, August 30 at .00 P.M. in the Forum at Lions Park Community Center to discuss the effects of the; Hillside Grading Ordinance on the Etiwa'nda North area. On September 7, 1989 a workshop will ;be held at the <Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following Resign Review to discuss parks and land uses within` the Etiwanda Specific Plan area. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion. Moved by Blaesle,y, seconded by Weinberger, carried with Tolstoy abstaining, to adopt the minutes of August 9, 1989. CONSENT CALENDAR A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE 'TRACT 1381 WATT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Design eview of ui ig evations and etailed sits pan for a previously approved tract map consisting of 151 single family lots on 66.77 acres of lard in the Very Low Residential District (1-2 dwelling units per acre) and the Low Residential' District ( -4 ' dwelling units' per acre), located 'north of Highland Avenue, south of Summit Avenue, and west of E iwan a Avenue - APN: 5-161-35 thru 38, 49, 53 55, & 61' and 5- 171- 1, 09, 10, & 17. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakeley, unanimously carried to adopt the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE `TRACT 1411 - ILLI LYCN CO. - A residential subdivision of single farm y ots on . acres of and in the Low-Medium Density Residential District (4-8 dwelling units per acre) f the Victoria Planned Community, located at the southwest corner of Highland and Milliken Avenues - APN: - 11-4 . Steve Ross, Assistant' Planner, presented the staff report and suggested several changes to the Resolution, including an additional condition to require collection of an in-lieu fee to provide for construction of a sound attenuation gall adjacent to the future freeway to mitigate noise impacts. Additional suggested changes were the inclusion of named streets In several ` standard' condition' sections. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the height of the proposed noise attenuation wall would be different depending upon the height of the proposed adjacent houses. Mr. Ross stated that the wall could be lower if the adjacent homes are two- story as opposed to single-story. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, stated that if the wall were built at the freeway grade;, it could be lowered by five feet. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing} Gary Luque, project manager for William Lyon Company, stated they accepted the conditions as presented. He said they were willing to accept the newly proposed condition requiring the in-lieu fee but protested its late addition. He requested approval of the project. Fred Oeau , 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, urged the Planning Commission to approve the tract map; because he felt it was consistent with the surrounding area. Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the in-lieu fee for future wall construction. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the condition requiring an in-lieu fee to provide for construction of a sound wall at the time the freeway is built was the same condition applied to another project to the west of the proposed protect, Planning Commission Minutes - - August 23, 1989 Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by 'Weinberger, to adopt ,the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 14121, with revisions ' to require the payment of in-lieu fees toward construction of a sound attenuation wall adjacent to the future freeway and the ',suggested 'naming of streets in several standard condition sections. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, MCN EL, TOLSTOY, IEINBERGER NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: ` COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA -carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS C. PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS Nancy Fong, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel invited public comment, but; there was, none. Commissioner Blakesley stated that parking at condominiums and apartments generally appears to be in too short supply. He stated that in comparing ratios to other cities, Rancho Cucamonga requirements were lower than other cities. He suggested raising the requirements to: studio - 1-1/ , 1 bedroom 4 2, 2 bedroom - -1/ , 3 bedroom 3 or 3-1/ , 4 bedroom - 4, plus a flat 15% increase for guest parking, with a majority of the spaces covered. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed, but felt studio should be 2 parking spaces. Commissioner Blakesley felt providing 1-1 would provide for every other studio to be occupied by 2 people.; He felt 2 parking spaces would be acceptable. Commissioner Wein'l rgen concurred and felt 1-1/2 would' be acceptable for studio. She 'asked why the standards were initially set so low. Chairman McNiel stated that the City wished to 'keep the amount of paving to a minimum. Commissioner 'Tolsoy felt that tuck-under parking could be utilized to reduce the amount of paving. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that last year a parking survey was conducted of (apartment and condominium projects in Rancho Cucamonga and Upland ` to determine how many spaces were available. The survey was done at various hours of the day and there appeared to be sufficient parking. Planning Commission Minutes -3 August 23, '1989 Commissioner Tolstoy stated ' e would be inclined to allow fewer than 2 spaces for studio parking if the visitor parking were increased for the studios. Chairman McNiel felt that if the parking requirements for studio apartments were significantly raised it would effectively negate the construction of studios. He asked if that would cause a 'problem in the area of affordable housing. Mr; Buller stated that it shouldn't ' because affordable housing includes a range of housing types including 1 to 3 bedroom; units. He suggested that if the Commission wished to increase guest parking they ;should raise the overall percentage, rather than penalizing studios. He stated that during the survey there appeared to be sufficient parking, but staff discovered there was a problem with poor site planning. Parking was located in the wrong place. Chairman McNiel suggested parking ratios of: studio - 2, 1 bedroom - 2, bedroom - bedroom - 4 bedroom and that the compact parking �_ � m o p p g requirements should be reviewed. He felt an option could be made available to drop studio parking from 2 to -1/ , if done in conjunction with pod parking. Commissioner Rlakesley stated he felt a 4 bedroom unit should definitely have spaces. Commissioner Tolstdy stated that while in Atlanta the Commissioners visited a very high density project which had underground parking and he was amazed at the amount of landscaping and the open feeling generated. In response to Chairman McNiel 's comment on compact spaces, Mr.` Huller stated an amendment to the Industrial Specific Plan and the Development Code would be necessary. He asked if the direction from the Commission was to consider total banning of compact car spaces. Commissioner :Tolstoy felt that if that was not acceptable, the alternative would be to reduce the number of spaces and that the spaces should be dispersed throughout the parking lot. Mr.` Buller stated' that staff would analyze several options and present a recommendation for an amendment. C. GENERAL, PLAN HOUSING ELEMENT REVISION WORK PROGRAM Cindy Norris,` Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Co issioner 'Tolstoy asked for clarification on 'how the City would analyze the differences between what was projected and what was achieved. s. Norris stated that an example would be a comparison of the numbers of affordable housing provided within the five year time line to see if it met the figures set by; SLAG. Planning Commission Minutes -4 August 23, 1989' Chairman McNiel asked if there was a considerable difference between what was considered affordable housing in 1984 versus today. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated that income levels are adjusted annually to consider inflation, so the housing price is likewise adjusted. Chairman McNiel asked if the grant and loan programs available to low income people to repair dwellings were being utilized. Mr. Henderson stated that the block grant program has mostly been used to rehab i 1 itate infrastructure and upgrade neighborhoods. He stated approximately $ 0,000 per year has been allocated for rehabilitation housing loans and grants. Commissioner glakesley questioned the Mortgage Bond program used to provide low interest loans for first time home' buyers, Mr. Henderson stated the overall economic situation has caused fewer builders to be interested in the program and the program will be analyzed to'see if it should be continued or modified. Commissioner Blakesley wondered if there were ways to better address energy and water efficiency in the Housing Element. Chairman McNiel stated that energy efficiency has been a part of the housing element, but felt that perhaps it needed to be better addressed during Design Review* Commissioner Tolstoy felt the Housing Element should reflect the City's concern with design standards to insure a high quality of life for all citizens; and the le nt should also reiterate the City's concern for necessary inf restructure, including streets, parks, and schools,' to accommodate the houses. Chairman McNiel asked if there were provisions in the state requirements to allow that kind of information. Ms.' Norris stated it was not required, but is not precluded. Mr.' Henderson stated those concerns could be included so long as they did not appear to be the overriding goal or policy of the element. He stated Rancho Cucamonga is one of the cities under SCAG that has to do something to avoid impaction of affordable housing in the region. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the inclusion would alert developers that the City is serious in its concerns about quality of life, Mr. Henderson stated that the State Department of Housing and Community Development does not approve Housing Element, they merely review and provide comments. If the City chooses not to change their Element' based on the comments, the City must' provide reasons for not revising the Element. He said Planning Commission Minutes -5- August 23, '1989 it was better to get the t'ate's blessing ; n the Housing Element in case the City were to be challenged in court. Brad Buller, City Planner, agreed that growth management objectives could be included in the Housing Element. Chairman McNiel asked when the work would be completed. GIs. Norris stated the fist draft should be ready ;for Planning Commission review in January 1990. r. Buller stated that technology has changed to provide alternate ways to address energy conservation and protect interior environments, so fewer Cities are reviewing orientation issues because of window glazing and other technology. Commissioner Blakesley felt materials should be reviewed during Design Review with energy efficiency a consideration. t the con f the Commission t direct staff to add design and 1 was.. consensus o e Co ss o o roc _s a _ infrastructure standards to the Housing Element. F. COMMUNITY TRAIL FENCE STANDARDS Ban Coleman, 'Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Tolstoy supported the two-rail fence because it gives better visual effect. Commissioner Blakesley concurred that the two-rail fence serves the purpose. He wondered if the fence should be kept at ' 6" to match other fencing in the City when retrofitting. Chairman McNiel asked if there had been any discussion of retaining the three- rail fence in any given areas to designate Community trails. r. Coleman stated; them had not been such a discussion at the Trails Advisory Committee Meeting. He said their: preference was to keep the trails consistent. Commissioner Blakesley asked if the posts were filled and if they; had considered going o 4' x 4' posh, as they seem to be sufficient to hold the rails and would perhaps give better visibility. . Coleman stated that every third past is filled, and every time the fence changes direction,; the post is filled.; Chairman Mc it preferred to keep 6' x 6' posts 'because he felt they impart a quality look. Planning Commission Minutes -6- August 23, 199 Commissioner Tolstoy concurred with keeping the posts S' x S" : Brad Buller, City Planner, stated he did not oppose the recommended change but stressed the importance of consistency. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that at Heritage Park the fence is two-rail while across the street the fence is three-rail and the difference is not that noticeable. Bar"rye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, asked if the fend should be changed mad-block. r Buller felt that the fence should match when filling in missing portions and staff would determine if it would be more cost effective to put in the newly adopted two-rail and retrofit to match or continue with the three-rail fence. Chairman McNiel suggested going to 4' " high so the fend would not look so spindly, except where there wrou l d be a continuity problem. Commissioners Blakesley and Tolstoy concurred. Mr. Coleman stated the Trails Advisory Committee suggested going to 41211, however, Phase II of the Sapphire retrofit was now out to bid at. C". Chairman McNiel suggested recalling the bid process, r . Coleman stated it would mean a delay because the City would have to again go out for bids. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was worth the delay. Commissioner Blakesley concurred.' Motion: Moved by Weinberger, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously passed, to change the standards to 4" "' high two-rail fence. PUBLIC COMMENTS Fred Beaux, 11036 Shaw Street., Rancho Cucamonga, suggested lowering the fence standards to 31 , because he felt a fence at 41211 could not contain a horse. Chairman McNiel stated the equestrian fencing at 41 " gives an aesthetic image of 'faun fencing. Mr. Beaux stated he saw nothing aesthetic about the white fences and felt they merely cover up the landscaping. Planning; Commission Minutes - - August 23, 1989 Commissioner Tol toy stated that when n the Etiwanda Specific Plan was considered, one of the grain concerns was to retain an atmosphere that gave the ambiance of country and opera space and the white rail fencing creates that open space feeling. There were no further public comments. ADJOURNMENT Motion. Moved by Dlksley, seconded by McNil, unanimously carried, to adjourn. .30 P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to an August 3 , 19 workshop at Lion's Park Community Center at :00 P.M. to discuss the impact of the? Hillside Development Ordinance on Etiwanda North development, and a September , 199 workshop at the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following Design Review to review parks and land use within the ti anda North Specific Plan area. Resp to l l,y s mitt d Brad Duller City Planner Planning Commission Minutes - - August 23, 199 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting August 17, 1989 Concourse/Forma/Messenger Investments Workshop Chairman: McNiel called: the special workshop to order at :30 P.M. at the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry ciel , Peter Tolstoy, Betsy Weinberger ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, Caro Coleman, Principal Planner; Rick.. Gomez, Community Development Director, Barrye ' Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner; Paul Rodgeau, Traffic Engineer; APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVES, Jeff Gordon, Rick Andreas, Messenger Investments; Van Stephens, Heinz Lumpp, Forma Otto Krou til , ,Deputy City Planner, explained the purpose of the meeting was to allow an informal forum to familiarize the Commission with the proposed project, to discuss several key issues, and to provide initial feedback to both the applicant and staff..: `p Mr. Jeff Gordon, Messenger Investments, opened the applicant's presentation with background information and indicated that the plan presented tonight was preliminary and long-term in nature. r. Van Stephens, Forma, presented an overview of the project, using a number of exhibits to illustrate the concepts. In addition to the exhibits attached to the staff memorandum, ' there were, perspective drawings and other illustrations indicating what the development of the site might look like at build-out. During i his presentation, Mr. Stephens emphasized the applicant's desire to obtain initial feedback from the Commission. Following a number of questions and an informal discussion, several Commissioners expressed serious concern with the proposed residential component of the project. It was generally felt that residential development in this area would be out of place. However, the Commissioners did not preclude the opportunity to apply for a future change of zoning to allow residential use after the nest of the site was substantially developed to provide the appropriate environment and amenities. It was generally felt that the proposal was 'a step in the right direction with regard to the overall concept of the project. However, until more is known about the spectfic; types of tenants and uses in this project and development proposals in the Ontario Center to the south, the. Commission felt it would be difficult to evaluate the concept. With the proper Brix of tenants and users to attract pedestrians to use the concourse, the ideas presented appeared to have merit. The intensity of the proposed land use was questioned, and staff indicated they had requested that the applicant supply a traffic study to evaluate the impact of the proposal on the surrounding circulation system. Mr. Heinz Lumpp, Forma, indicated that the applicant would like to utilize the City's traffic modeling`capabilities now being developed, and will provide the necessary information to the City in the future. The streetscape treatment along the Milliken and Fourth Street frontages was discussed. It was noted that the Commission generally prefers buildings closer to the street to avoid large expanses of parking visible from major boulevards. The mix of uses appeared to be appropriate for the north half of the project, which is generally likely to develop in the earlier phases. The Commissioners did note' that more emphasis would need to be placed on the development of a more detailed plan for the north half of the site, and that they expected high quality architecture and landscape treatment in this part of the project as well. Finally, it was noted that theCity's previously approved monumentation program was underway on both Haven Avenue and Milliken Avenue gateways to the City, and that the treatment of the immediate corner of Fourth Street and Milliken should match the other key gateways. Mr. Gordon indicated Messenger Investments is aware of the City' s expectations for quality architecture and indicated they would work with staff and their consultants in this general direction. The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Brad Huller Secretary Planning'Commission Minutes -2- August 17, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO C CAM4NGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTE Regular Meeting August 9, 1989 Chairman McN el called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning; Commission to order at :CC R.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base sine Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then lied in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS`. PRESENT- David Bla e ley, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry Mc Niel , Betsy Weinberger ABSENT:` Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT. grad Buller, City Planner; O an Coleman, Principal Planner; Jerry Guarracino, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner; Larry Henderson Principal Planner; Anna-Lisa Hernandez Planning Aide; Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Grad Buller, City Planner, announced that Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, has been with the City for ;ten years and would be honored by City Council at their August 16 meeting. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion* Moved by Chitiea,; seconded by Bla esley, carried with Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the Minutes of dune 2 , 1989. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel;, carried with Blaesle,y and Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the Minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of July G, 1989, as amended. Motion* Moved by Chitiea, seconded ; y Bla e ley, unanimously carried, to adopt the Minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of July 20, 1989. Motion: Moved by Chitiea;, seconded by Weinberger, carried with Blakesley abstaining, to adopt the Minutes of July 26, 1989, as amended. CONSENT CALENDAR A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 13890 HOMESTEAD The design review building evtions and etaied lots (Phases 1 and l of a previously approved vesting tract map consisting of 166 single family lots on 40 acres of land in the Low Medium Residential District, located at the north side of Highland Avenue, south of Banyan, west of Deer Creek Channel - AP : 1- 1-1 , 14, 33, 34, 41, & 42. Commissioner Ehitiea requested that the item be pulled from the Consent Calendar because she was concerned that the side elevations appeared to be lacking architectural enhancements which may have been discussed at Design Review. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Tom Martin, Homestead Land Development, stated that the exhibits did' not include the latest changes rude, however, renderings were available* There were no further public comments. Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, supplied the latest renderings. Commissioner Ghitiea viewed the latest renderings and stated they addressed her concerns. Motion. Moved by 6lakesley, seconded by Chi iea, ;to adopt the Resolution; approving Design Review for Vesting Tentative Tract 13890. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: DLA ESLEY, ENITIEA, MCNI L, W IN E GER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTDY -carried B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 9� - RICHAR,D'S EAU' Y L request to establish a eauty o ege in 77ease space of , , sgrfeet within an existing building In the General Commercial District, located in the Deer Creek Village Center, Unit 1, on the west side of Haven, south of Church - ARN: 10 -401- 9. (Continued from July 6, 1989.) Jerry Guarracino, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel asked if the beauty college would be leasing the space vacated by the health club. Planning; Commission Minutes - - August 9, 1989 Mr. Guarracino stated the beauty college was in another location in the center. He said the former health club space would be leased for other retail uses. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. John Mannerino, 9333 Base Line, Suite II , Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was accompanied by !uric Cross, one of the principals for Richard's Beauty College, and representatives from property owner Leiseru and broker Stephen Daniels Realty, and all were available to answer questions. Mr. Mannerino stated he could make a ,representation on behalf of L iseru that they would not lease to another health club facility. He said they were prepared to answer any ; questions. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Rlaesley concurred with staff's concern regarding the parking issue. He said that particular corner of the center is not yet fully occupied and already has a' parking problem. He did not see much of a trade off with the removal of the health center because he felt they had closed because they hadn't generated enough traffic. He felt the use was compatible and felt any; other use would be as intense. Commissioner Chitlea stated it would be helpful if the user could get their ' staff and students to park in the rear. Commissioner Weinberger felt using the closing of the health club to justify the availability of parking ;was questionable because another health club could decide to lease there, but she felt that was not a reason to disapprove the project. Commissioner Chitiea stated a more intense use might replace the health club, but agreed that would not be a reason to deny the application. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by gla e ley, to adopt ;the Resolution; approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89-22. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNI L, W INBE ER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried C. ' ENVIRONMENTAL 'ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT g- C - DEEDEEIS DANCE' ST00I -' The request to estab is a dance; stu io n a ease spate of square feet within an 'existing business park on 8.72 acres of land in the Industrial Specific Plan, ('Subarea ), located at 9047 Arrow Route, Sure 100 & 110 - APN: Cg- I . i Planning Commission Minutes - - August 9,; 1989 Anna-Lisa Hernandez, Planning Aide, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. uenean Friedman, 9581 Foothill , Rancho Cucamonga, ;stated she has been in business twelve years and wanted to relocate because her business is growing. Commissioner Chitiea asked if there would still be a costume', shop in conjunction with the dance studio. Ms. Friedman responded affirmatively. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Weinberger stated the application appeared to be straightforward and she supported the request. Commissioner Chitiea stated there did not appear to be any parking problems . Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Weinberger,' to adopt the Resolution approving Conditional use Permit 89-20. Lotion carried by the following vote. AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CNITIEA# MCNI L, W INBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOL TOY -carried C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT I AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-10 - AMPAC - The request to estab ih outsi e storage within a 354thern California Edison easement of 13.73 acres in the Heavy Industrial Development District (Subarea 15) of the Industrial Specific Plan,, located on the south side of= Arrow Route, east of, and adjacent to, the Oevore Freeway ' APN. 9 1 1- 16. (Continued from July 26, 1989. E. VARIANCE 8 -0 - AMPAC - A request to allow landscaping as a method of screening an outdoor storage area from a regional trail . Landscaping and storage area to be located on a Southern California Edison right-of-way of _ 18. 8 acres in the Heavy Industrial District (Subarea 5) of the Industrial Specific Plan, on the south side of Arrow' Route, east of, and adjacent to, the Oevore Freeway - APN: ' 9-1 1-16. Steve Mayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Paul Toomey, engineering consultant for AMPAC, indicated that in reference to the Variance request, a second project would be presented to the Planning Commission in a few months which would include installing a chain link fence with slats for solid screening along the west boundary. He said they were concerned about installing the landscaping prior to utilizing the site for Planning Commission Minutes - - August 9, 1989 W iY• � "` aW # W w r # Wr W w ,, W * r •M w , ! . w •, • " w t ;W °" 1M tW *r W r *,W • r t •. r W t w w w W W W W, W r ' t w " W � � �" • w w t t w s « t N r w W � w � W � " w W r t w r r i t t t i aY .... Chairman McNiel stated that because the freeway was elevated normal screening would not totally shield the property. Commissioner Chitiea stated that as the site would be visible from the Regional Trail she felt it was important to plant the landscaping as quickly as possible because it would take a number of years before it effectively screened the site from the trail . She did not wish to delay the installation by 12-18 months waiting for Day Creek Channel construction completion. She stated that she supported the Variance because this was an exceptionally large area of land adjacent to the freeway and the trail . She supported the project with the revised wording regarding the retention basin. Commissioner Blakesley concurred that landscaping should be installed as soon as possible. Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Weinberger, to adopt the Resolutions approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89-10 and Variance 89-09, with modification to require the retention basin be large enough to accommodate a series of sequence storms as required by the San Bernardino County Flood Control District and the City Engineer. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITTEA; MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried NEW BUSINESS F. TREE REMOVAL PERMIT 89-34 - TOM TALBOTT - An appeal of staff's decision denying­the remove of six mature eucalyptus trees at 10121 Whispering Forest Drive. APN: 1074-111-02. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Tom Talbott, 10121 Whispering Forest, Rancho Cucamonga, reviewed the history of his purchase of the property and his contacts with the City. He requested that he be allowed to remove the existing trees and install new ones. He said he contacted each of his neighbors andthey did not object to the removal of the trees. Commissioner Chitiea stated that 159 trees had been removed illegally before he purchased the property and he had already removed another nine for construction. She asked Mr. Talbott if he had plans to replace any of the nine trees removed for construction. Planning Commission Minutes -8- August 9, 1989 Mr. Talbott stated he intends to replace many more trees than what he has removed but he did not have any formal plans as yet. Chairman McNiel asked Mr. Talbott if he had a landscape architect. r Talbott stated he presently had only enough money left in his :budget to plant grass. He said he wants to replant eucalyptus trees to bring the property into conformity with the neighborhood, but he did not think it was healthy; to plant the trees as closely as they had been planted originally. He felt that created a fire hazard; He also objected to replacing the trees with the same type of eucalyptus because he did not feel they were strong ienough to withstand the high winds in the area. There were no further public comments. Commissioner Chitiea stated that because of the proximity to the ;house the natural setting would be lost anyway with the addition of a retaining wall. She was not opposed to removing the gees and replacing them elsewhere on the lot. However, she felt that to replace the six mature trees with a like number of smaller trees would be too few considering the: number of years it would take for the trees to mature. She preferred a ratio of two-to-one or three-to-one. Chairman McNiel suggested the Commission might consider are extended time frame for replacement planting. Commissioner Chitiea felt it would be appropriate to allow an extended time frame. Commissioner Hlakesley stated he agreed with staffs recommendation that the trees be replaced with five-gallon gees to allow the trees to grow stronger and he felt replacing the six with a greater number would help restore the character of the neighborhood. He felt perhaps a different variety should be considered for better wind resistance. Commissioner Weinberger felt there was a definite need to 'remove the trees and she felt the applicant would definitely want attractive landscaping because he was building an expensive home. She did not feel the Commission should set a specific number for replacement' trees. She felt that whatever was planted should be wind resistant. Commissioner Chitiea felt there may be other varieties of eucalyptus with a similar look but better tolerance for wind and drought. She thought it was important to set a number and a time frame. Chairman McNiel invited Mr. Talbott to comment on the possibility' of a one— year time frame to complete replanting. Mr. Talbott stated he did not have any problem with a one-year deadline or a requirement for 18 trees because he felt he would probably be planting; more than that. He asked if he was being penalized for the trees the previous owner had illegally cut down. Planning Commission Minutes - - August g, 1989 Mr. Coleman felt the rain reason for asking for a larger number, of trees was that the trees were being replaced with five-gallon trees instead of the normally-required fifteen-gallon trees. He said the smaller trees should provide a healthier growth. Commissioner Chitiea stated she had suggested additional trees to give an; illusion of more growth. There were no further public comments. Brad Buller, City 'Planner, suggested the Commission may wish to set a deadline for providing the plan with a one-gear maximum time frame for planting. He cautioned the Commission on setting a precedent for allowing trees other than the type of eucalyptus in the area because it would be inconsistent with past actions requiring replacement in kind within this tract. : He said the applicant would of course be allowed to plant additional trees of another variety.. Commissioner Chitiea asked if blue gums can be replaced with red gums. Mr. Buller stated that was correct, and is even recommended in other parts of, the City, but it would ' not be consistent for this neighborhood. Commissioner Chitiea asked if there was a variety with a similar look, size,' shape, and bark that is a superior tree. r. Coleman stated that the trees that will be planted will have a totally different environment than the mature trees in the area because they would be irrigated instead of attaining their growth in the natural rainfalls environment that the grove grew up in Commissioner Blakesley felt that generally eucalyptus' trees are wind resistant and with the proper growing conditions the new ones would be healthier trees. Chairman McNiel felt that the plans should' be provided within nine months and the trees planted within one year. Commissioner Blakesley concurred that the time frame seemed fair. Commissioner Weinberger felt the type of tree should be considered further. Commissioner Chitiea felt it would be appropriate to allow Mr. Talbott to research to see of he could suggest a similar variety of tree for use a replacements and she felt the City Planner should have the latitude to accept different variety. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to direct staff to issue a letter of approval for Free Removal Permit 9-34 with a three-to-one replacement requirement, allowing plans to be submitted` within nine months with planting to follow within one year and allowing the City Manner latitude' to 'consider an alternate species. Motion carried by the following; vote: Planning. Commission Minutes - - August g, 1989' AYES, COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT, COMMISSIONERS. TOLSTOY -carried Mr. Coleman stated that because there is a ten-day appeal period on this decision, Mr. Talbott should not remove the trees until after the appeal period has expired. 6.15 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 8:25 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened DIRECTOR'S REPORTS H. ETIWANOA SCHOOL DISTRICT' S REQUEST TO ABANDON PROPOSED ACCESS BETWEEN THE tA_RYNELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND TR O N L PA' Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report. Carleton Lightfoot, Superintendent of the Etiwanda School District, stated the paseo had already been constructed. He said the School District feels there is a safety hazard because the sidewalk comes to an end and then drops off I.2- I5 feet to the school site. He said the City required the School District to leer the elevation on one-half of the site, creating a large; drop off. He stated they feared people on bicycles and skate boards would gather speed' coring down the walkway which has a 3 4% grade and tumble down the hill and the school would be sued for having; an attractive nuisance. He said the District was also concerned because the paseo was actually a sluiceway and when a heavy rain occurs they feel their herdcodrt area will become a holding tank for the water coming down the sluiceway. He ' said the ;portion of the playground the water will enter is not turfed, and the grater will just sit there because the drainage system was engineered only to take care of the runoff from the hardcourt area itself. He said they feared the water would drain into their buildings.; He ;said the School District; did not necessarily want to block off the paseo, but they felt the City should mitigate their concerns with the safety and drainage factors. They felt the situation was created by the City and the City should provide the financial resources to alleviate their concerns. Commissioner Chitiea stated the streets above the school drain east to west and not into the paseo.. Can; Coleman, Principal Planner, stated the only drainage in the paseo itself would be the irrigation runoff. Planning Commission Minutes -9- August 9, 1989 Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that at the first cul-de-sac the paseos are drained out into the street, so the only area of concern would be from the closest cul-de-sac to the school site Chairman Mc Niel asked what the School Board proposes. Mr. Lightfoot stated the School District wants the City to take care of the drainage problem. He said if the City would do that the School District would ; be willing to have a trial period of access; to the upper turfed area and pillow ; the residents to use the turfed area to play ball , etc. He said if they found' that to be an unsafe situation, they would block it off in the future. He said their first concern was the drainage problem. Commissioner Chitiea asked the drop in elevation from the paseo to the school site. Mr. Buller stated the drop from the paseo to the relocatable building site is a drop of 15-20 feet but it is less than five feet to the turfed area with a fairly flat transition. He stated City staff had discussed with Mr. Lightfoot the possibility of securing access,< from the paseo to the back of the rel'ocatable buildings with a fence. Chairman Mciel asked if Engineering had had any discussions with the School District' regarding the drainage issue. Commissioner Blakesley asked if there was a gutter in the paseo Mr. Maguire stated the paseo is a sidewalk with a rock Swale area with smaller retaining walls scattered throughout. He stated Engineering had not specifically been told there was a drainage problem and they would take a look at the plans.' Chairman Mciel stated the City has been designed as an open community and the paseo system was; provided for easy pedestrian, bicycle, and equestrian passage. Mr. Lightfoot stated the School District does not disagree with than philosophy and they plan their playgrounds to be open to the public. He said they try to fence off the buildings because of vandalism. He Stated the playground is currently open to the public from a sidewalk on the opposite side of the street. He said they did disagree that the drainage would always be minimal coming down the paseo. He stated' the School District had not wanted to lower the elevation of their site when they built, but the City rewired the site be lowered. They felt that the drainage problem was created by the City and should be corrected by the 'City. There were no further public comments. Commissioner Chitiea asked for a clarification of the drainage situation as it presently exists. Planning Commission Minutes -lo- August 9, 1989 MrMaguire stated he was not sure which division required the site be lowered r. Maguire stated the developer owned all the land at the time he subdivided and it would therefore be quite legal for him to establish new drainage patterns when he subdivided. Subsequent owners then buy; the situation. He said the City will review the drainage situation and see i there is a reasonable solution. that is feasible, but that City Council would have to authorize the spending of any funds. Commissioner Chitiea stated that 'there are schools in the Alta Loma or Central School District which have access from the neighborhood to the side or rear of the schools and provide a very needed recreation location for children. She felt every effort should be made to keep the access open and available to the community, particularly since the community lost a park at the site. She also felt it was important to provide the paseo> as a safe alternative for children to walk to school . She supported installing the ramp to the west. Commissioner Weinberger concurred. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakeslgy, to direct staff to look at the drainage issue. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBEGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS, TOLSTOY -carried G. CHINO BASIN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT REGIONAL PLANT NO. (Oral Report) An introductory presentation y Chino Basin Municipal Water District' concerning proposed water treatment plant to be located on the southwest corner of Etiwanda Avenue and Gth Street. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that Chino Basin Municipal 'Water District representatives would be presenting the report. Chairman McNel invited public comment. Jim Knudsen, CH M-Hill, engineering firm for Chino Basin Municipal Water District, stated he was accompanied by several staff members of the Water District and John Keller from Converse Environmental . He stated the first phase of the protect is a 10-13 mmmgd wastewater reclamation facility with a` second phase planned to bring the capacity up to 0- 6 mmg d. He said the facility would treat wastewater to provide an effluent usable' as clean water; for industrial or irrigation purposes, and the treated water would meet State quality requirements, allowing public bodily contact. He stated the plant was located in a heavy industrial zone to be close to potential users; such as, Southern California.. Edison ;power plant and local landscape irrigation users. He indicated the site was also 'selected to allow gravity flow of wastewater from the northern service area of Rancho Cucamonga and Fontana. He said the Planning Commission Minutes -11- August 9, 1989 site would include concrete basins to treat the wastewater and six major buildings, surrounded by a -foot high block wall , with a gently rolling bemed landscape area between the wall and street. He indicated the six buildings and the anaerobic digester tanks would extend 20-25 feet 'above the ground and there would be two tanks each in the two construction phases, Mr. Knudsen then addressed traffic, noise, and odor concerns. He said the operation would generate minimal traffic for a small plant crew plus 4-5 trucks per day. He stated that the blowers and engine generators would be located within the buildings and would be equipped with silencers to attenuate any noise produced. He said that the; channels entering the initial treatment stage are covered to alleviate any odor problem. He stated hydrogen sulfide is probably the major odor component entering with the raw wastewater and the District would be adding ferric salts to the raw sewage flow to combine with the hydrogen sulfide and prevent it from berg released. He stated the primary sedimentation tanks are open but are designed to accommodate a cover and/or the addition of odor' scrubbing equipment in the future, if necessary. He said secondary and tertiary treatment facilities generally 'do not produce objectionable odors. he stated the solids 'handling facilities are located in an enclosed building, which will have the ability to add odor scrubbing; equipment if deemed necessary. He stated they were currently in the preliminary design portion of the project and they planned to apply for a Conditional Use Hermit in December with actual construction projected to begin in 'October 1991, and completion of phase 1 in 1993, with the second phase to come on line in approximately the year 2000. Commissioner Chitlea asked if the facility would be similar to the facility located near the 60 Freeway and Archibald. Mr. Knudsen stated he did not believe there was any scrubbing equipment at that facility. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was concerned that enough equipment be prat in place at the outset to avoid citizen complaints and businesses being hurt with plummeting rents In the area. Chairman McNiel asked how frequently they have to go back and install the covers and scrubbing equipment after building new plants in populated areas. Mr. Knudsen stated that generally the larger treatment plants serving very large areas with large' tributary flows going into the treatment plants have a' longer detention time before the waste is treated and have an odor problem from hydrogen sulfide in the incoming sewage. He said as the plants get smaller there is less of a` tendency for the hydrogen sulfide in the sewage.< He stated the proposed plant is a medium size plant. Chairman McHiel asked if reclamation plants make economic sense or merely ecological sense. Jim Knudsen stated that when they compiled the Master plan in 1984 they determined that it would be cost effective project. Planning Commission Minutes -1 _ August g, 1989 There were no further public comments. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the Water District initiated contact with the City and had been very cooperative in their approach to this project. He stated that the <purpose of tonight's meeting was informational only and no action was 'necessary by the Planning Commission. He expressed staff's appreciation for the cooperation from the Water District. Commissioner Chitiea felt that from an ecological standpoint the facility represents good planning and she supported the use. She felt the landscaping on 6th Street will be important, as 6th Street is a special boulevard. She stated that the odor aspect needs to be addressed and planned for in advance to design the quality features in at the outset to forestall problems. She felt the odor features should probably be included with the initial contract and installed up front' because it may be more cost effective. Chairman Mc Niel concurred that the ' facility ;was important ` and that odor control was an important aspect of the design. Commissioner Weinberger stated she had visited a state-of-the-art treatment facility and it did not have an odor problem the day she visited. Mr. Buller asked if the Commissioners would be interested in a field trip to visit similar facilities. Chairman McNiel stated he would definitely be interested. Mr. Buller requested that the Water District provide a list of similar facilities so that he could perhaps arrange a field trip for interested Commissioners. I. STATUS OF MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT (Oral Report) - A review of residential develo m.ent as it pertains to the Cit 's single family/multi-family y hawing mix. (See City Council report.) Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. He stated that the City Council indicated they would prefer to see the single family/multi-family development ratio remain the same as it is today. He said that would require a reduction of approximately 4,0 lti-family ;units. He said currently there is a proposal from one developer in the Ftiwanda area to build single family in a Medium Densitymulti-family area, which will mean a reduction of; approximately 700 multi family units. He stated representatives from the William Lyon Company have indicated they are contemplating fewer multi-family units than what the plan now shows. He said staff has been directed to report back regularly to City Council on the status of multi- family development activity. Commissioner Chitiea felt it was appropriate to move in the direction of /S / 5% single family/multi-family housing mix as opposed to 68%/ B% ratio. Planning Commission Minutes -13- ,august 9, 1989 Commissioner Blakesley felt it was important however to have some affordable housing and product mix in the community to provide housing for all citizens. Co issioner Chitiea stated that now the City has a clearer indication of what burgeoning population, even at lower density mixes, really means in terries of impaction on infrastructure and facilities.' She felt it might be a good time to reevaluate the density ranges.- Chairman McNiel stated this was a' complex problem because about the only thing falling in the category of affordable ;housing at present are some of the small ` apartments. He felt it was important to have enough affordable housing to avoid having the federal government step in. Commissioner iBlakesley stated it is important to provide housing for hourly' workers. Commissioner Chitiea stated that the City 'provided for affordable housing by allowing smaller lots, but the developers are building larger houses on the smaller lots. She stated that even if the City provides for higher density, it does not necessarily mean that the prices of the units are goring to be affordable. It may gust mean that the profit margin of the owner/developer increases. r Buller stated that as the City matures and the land becomes more scarce, more pressure will be applied to build more attached, multi-family housing. Chairman McNiel stated that perhaps zone changing should be considered. Commissioner Chitiea felt that perhaps down-zoning should be considered at this time because there might not be opposition at this time, as the developers might profit from larger homes. COMMISSION BUSINESS Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that on;, August 17, 1989 there would be a workshop following Design Review to review a Master Plan of the General Dynamics property. Mr. Buller stated there would be a workshop on Wednesday, August BG on the impact of the hillside Development Ordinance on Etiwanda North development. Mr* Buller stated that the County had approved an extension for the 4th Street Rock Crusher 'project and the City has appealed the extension, PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments at this time. Planning Co fission Minutes -14- August: g, 1989 ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Chitica, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn. 9:40 P.N. - Planning Commission Adjourned to an August 17, 1989 workshop at Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following Design Review to review the proposed Master Plan on the General Dynamics property. Respectfully submitted, grad Bu lr Secretary Planning Commission Minutes -15- August 9, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 26, 1989 Chairman McNel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman cNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiol, Betsy Weinberger ABSENT; David Blakesley, 'Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner; Ran Coleman, Principal Planner; Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner; Jeff gavel , Assistant Planner; Barbara gall, Assistant Civil ; Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Paul Ruugeau, Traffic Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the applicants for Items I and J had each requested that their items be continued for two weeks. Mr. Buller also announced that he had received a request from a resident' that Item K be moved forward on the agenda.' APPROVAL OF MINUTES Chairman McNiel requested that no, action be taken on the Minutes from June 28, 1989 until the three Commissioners present at that meeting could review them. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger, unanimously carried, to adopt the Minutes of duly 12, 1989, as amended. CONSENT CALENDAR A. ARCHITECTURAL MODIFICATIONS TO TENTATIVE TRACT 1 - GRIFFIN HOMES Modifications to a previously approved Design Review of building elevations and detailed site plan for a Tentative Tract Map consisting of 102 single family homes in the Low-Medium Residential District (4-8 dwelling units per acre) , located north of Highland Avenue, west of Milliken Avenue - APN: 201-271-E5. R. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -13 - NORDIC DEVELOPMENT. - The development of an ;office building tota' ing ; 4,40 square feet on .93 acres of land in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 7) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the west side of Red Oak Street north of Civic Center Drive - APN: 08-0 -1 . Motion: Moved by Weinberger, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried..., to adopt the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS I . CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-22 - RICHARD 'S BEAUTY COLLEGE A request to establish a beauty co legs in a leased space of 5,140square feet within an existingu b building i the General Commercial District located in the g Deer Creek Village Center, Unit 21, on the west side of Raven, south of Church - APN: 107 - 01 - 9. J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 0-10 _ AMPAC The request to establish outside storage within a Southern Ca ifornia Edison easement of 13.73 acres in the Heavy Industrial Development District (Subarea 15) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the south side of Arrow Route, east of, and adjacent to, the Devore Freeway - APN. 229121- 1 . Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger, unanimously carried, to continue Conditional Use Permit G -22 and Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 9-10 to August D, 1989. there regarding n 1 in the.. audience .waste a e_ e _ N1 1 asked how many people Chairman c e s y _p P. g, g ' Item , Environmental Assessment '--and Developmento Cdndn t 89- 1 and less than half the people raised their hands Chairman Mc Niel stated that in i t m the item forward. 'd ``t wish o move r 1 he d� no fairness to the oche poop C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 1204 WEIRI PROPERTIES STD. A subdivision of acres o a into parce s in the Neigh orhood Commercial District, located' on the southwest corner of Archibald Avenue and Lomita Court APN; 202-11-33. Planning Commission Minutes -2 July 26 1989 i i, Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNel opened the public hearing. Al Weirick, General Partner, stated he agreed with the staff :report and was available to answer questions. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing; was closed. Commissioner Chitea stated it appeared to be a very straight-forward division` and she supported the project. Chairman McNiel asked if ' the parking area was appropriately divided in relation to the buildings. Ms. Krall responded that the parking related to the buildings appropriately' and Standard Condition 5 provided for 'reciprocal access. Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger, to adopt the Resolution' approving Environmental Assessment and Parcel flap 12504. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS; CHITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAIESLEY, TO STOY -carried O. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 89- 2 LA KM N HOMES, INC. - request to pre-zone approximately acres of vacant landlocated at' the northeast corner of Highland and Rochester Avenues, to a density of Low Residential (2-4 dwelling units per acre) - APN 225-152-01, 02, 03, 04, & 18. (Continued from dune 28, 1989.) E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 89-03 - 'BLACKMON HOMES INC - A request to approve a Development'­Ag-reement for approximately 2 acres, consisting of 78 lots at approximately 3.2 dwelling units per acre, located on the northeast corner of Highland and Rochester Avenues - APN, 225-152-01, 02, OJ,, 04, & 18. (Continued from June 28, 1989.) Jeff Gravel, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report and jsuggested minor wording changes in paragraph 7 of the Development Agreement regarding indemnification. He stated the changes had been requested by the City Attorney. Chairman McNel opened the public hearing. Jeff Blackmon, applicant, requested that the number of side-on garages be reduced from thementioned in the Architectural and Design Guidelines. He Planning Commission Minutes -3- July 26, 1989 M,, "...i i - i�^' f .i r i '"; "". i s'" 'i. .4.fit ,.: •.. i . a• '" �: ® �. #, -- • r t • W.� .... �«� .. �. •is • *. . � �'* i •: -. � 1 i i e C.i i 'is a * a � ...:. �i ,-... 3'.:,M ... .:. i � � • • •. lF.� ;. i �',, i '. ! i r i i i • i is ® • i.•. i * i � ' i.. t i :,, i ® � �...•i w �' i i i i' • 1 •.�. i • is i • • a • f i • ti r i • «,i i i i I • • � • .i � i i i i i i � i r i i s * y i, • ., i i i t • i . i i M i ". + i i ,� i . r • . i i • i i i' � i i i," s •i • � i � �i �i � � i . ii � • i r � a • r � b y, �i � 1 TM , • w � • �» J ,, � :� AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, TDLSTQY -carried F. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 89-03 - MANGO'S BEACHFRDNT CAFE - The review of providing a disc jockey, live entertainment, and dancing in conjunction with a restaurant use, located at 8034 Haven Avenue - APN: 1077-661-0w Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNlel opened the public hearing. ; Phyillis Hyde, Director of Operations, requested that the band be allowed to be larger than four because she stated they were considering having strolling bands for wedding receptions and felt those holding banquets may wish to have larger bands. She requested condition B he removed to allow for use of the patio by strolling bands. She also requested that condition 6 be changed to permit access to the bar from either a main exterior door or from the restaurant. Mr. Grahn stated that staff was not opposed to allowing access to the bar from any main building; entrance,' they merely wanted the rear exit to be used only for fire exit. Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner;, stated the Commission had in the past supported use of ;entertainment in the patio area. He felt the use could be controlled by the use of the Temporary Use Permit application process. Chairman McNiel stated staff did not appear to have a concern with the second entrance to the bar from the patio area and he felt 'a maximum four-piece band' might not always be appropriate. Commissioner Chitiea concurred that it would be acceptable to allow larger bands. She 'stated she liked the ambience of patio music but wondered what would happen if other restaurants wished to use the patio Brad Buller, City Planner, felt it might be appropriate to request written consent from adjoining, tenants in conjunction with a Temporary Use Permit He felt if the condition were included in this Entertainment Permit, it could be implemented as part of the policy for future Temporary Use Permits for the center. ` Commissioner Chitiea felt entertainment at Mango's Beachfront Cafe would add interest to the center and she supported the project with the suggested' modifications. Planning Commission Minutes - - duly 26, 1989 Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger, ' to adopt the Resolution approving Entertainment Permit` 89-03 with modifications to remove the restriction on number of bared members, allow access to the bar by use of either primary entrance, and allow entertainment to be conducted in the patio area with a Temporary Use Permit and written consent of adjoining' tenants. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBER ER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE' ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, TOLSTOY -carried H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88- JAMES CARTER DEVELOPMENT---- Deve op nt of a shopping center consisting of ' 1 bui dings totaling 28,200 square feet! on 3.7 acres of land in the Neighborhood Commercial District at the southwest corner of Baseline Road and Hellman Avenue - 'APN. C - 14. Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, presented the staff report, a letter of opposition from resident Karen Smith, and suggested wording change on Engineering ;Condition 2 regarding provision :of access easements to the City/County public facilities to the West. Commissioner Chitiea asked to see the color and material sample board. Chairman McNiel opened the public hear Jim Carter, applicant, presented a letter from resident C. J. Hamilton favoring the project. Chairman McNiel stated' that during Design Review there had been a request to add cornice board on the corner of the tower. Mr. Carter stated the cornice board had been left off the center tourer because they felt it looked better. He said they were willing to add the cornice board. ' project Paul Edwards, 740 Hellman,` Rancho Cuca rlga, opposed the p ..ode because he felt the businesses to the east are already showing signs of deterioration with broken blocks and dying lawns and he feared students would go to the convenience store on their way to and from school and then litter; his yard. He asked if there would be an exit to Hellman. Mr. Abbott stated the center was ;designed so that the exit to Hellman would be a secondary access. Mr. Edwards said Hellman is a narrow, street and he felt there is too much traffic on Hellman. Planning Commission Minutes < -6July° 26, 1989 Mr Carter stated the Fire Department requires two access points. i Hearing no further testimony, the; public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea asked if "no left turn" sighs could be posted at Hellman. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated increased traffic has recently been experienced on Hellman because of the construction on Carnelian, which will be finished shortly. He stated Hellman would be widened within the next 12 to 18 months. He said a "no loft turn" sign could be posted but it would be difficult to enforce. He said that when the street was widened` them would be an extended lane for left turns. He said the design of the center would encourage people to enter and exit on Base Line. Commissioner Chitiea asked how far the Hellman driveway was from Base sine. Mr. Abbott stated it was approximately 250 feet. Commissioner Chitiea asked if Engineering was satisfied that it was a safe distance. Mr. Maguire Mated the minimum distance is 200 feet. Commissioner Chitiea felt after looking at the color sample board and the amount of color going up the columns on the elevations that the color night be too intense® Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing;* Warren Scott, project architect, stated the intent was to give a hint of color so that the project would not appear as a massive white building. He felt the colors would not be toe intense Chairman McNiel asked if a test section' could be done at the site when construction reached that point. Mr.. Scott said that would be acceptable. Commissioner Chitiea asked what material was being used ` t the base of the columns. Mr... Scott stated 12 inch square ceramic tiles were being used. ,I Hearing ;no further testimony, the public hearing was dosed. Chairman McNiel stated' that Mir. Carter had been very cooperative in working with the City. He stated that any project at the site would generate additional traffic, but felt the City has done everything possible to mitigate the traffic problem. He supported the project. Planning Commission Minutes -7- duly 26,' 1989 Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Weinberger, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Condit'ional', Use Permit -46 with modifications to provide for additional cornice on the center tower and sample ' colors for the store fronts, tile, stucco, and stucco base to be approved on- site prior to completion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES. COMMISSIONERS. NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, TOLSTO carried E.IS P.M. - Planning Co mission Recessed ih : 5 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 9 0B - CITE' OF RANCHO UCAMONGA - An ame@ment to the circa at on MiiFeR of the ancho` ucamona General Plan to restore through traffic to Highland Avenue` between Haven Avenue and Deer Creek Channel, with a connection to Highland Avenue from lath Street ;near San Benito Avenue. Paul Rougeau, Traffic Engineer, ;presented the staff report. He stated that staff had received a few written comments, telephone calls, and visitors, with all being in favor of adoption. Chairman McNi'el asked What would 'happen when the freeway is constructed* Mr. Rougeau stated the streets would have to return to the current configuration. Commissioner Chitiea asked if the proposal' included a signal at Highland and gth Street. Mr. Rougeau stated there would not be a signal but there would be a turn lane.` Commissioner Chitiea asked if the City would bear the full cost of returning Highland to its original state. Mr. Rougeau confirmed the City would bear the full cost. Commissioner Chitiea asked the approximate cost. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, estimated the cost would be in the $300,000 range. ' Plannings �Commission Minutes ' H - July 1989 Chairman McRiel asked if there would be a leg of Highland going beyond the 19th Street intersection that would remain when the freeway is constructed. r Maguire stated it would revert to what is there today. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. The following residents spoke in favor of the amendment: Steve Bayless, 6608 Halstead Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga Corky Stone, 6628 San Benito Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga Joe Jett, 6858 Valinda, Rancho Cucamonga Dennis Binder, 105 Ring Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga Jerry Jacobson, 10935 Santa Barbara Place, Rancho`Cucamonga Terri Brooks, 10331 Orange Sheet,; Rancho Cucamonga Art 'McClure, 1,0830 'Sonoro Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga Carolyn Abrom, 10939 .Sara Mateo Place, Rancho Cucamonga Peter Van Steeden, 10660 Heather Street, Rancho Cu camong a The residents felt the road should not have been closed and felt it presently is an unsafe situation. Several residents questioned lane layout, stop sign, and signaliation details. Mr. Maguire Mateo those were design ;issues and the General Plan does not go into that detail . He stated the technical details were addressed by the Public Safety Commission and referred from there to City Council . Chairman McHiel suggested the residents may wish to contact the Public Safety Commission, whichimeets the first Tuesday of every month. r. Stone requested that when the freeway" is constructed the residents be allowed to provide input in the design'; of the freeway`. Mr. Jacobson asked about the construction time fro Mr. Maguire stated the amendment would be heard by City Council at their second meeting in August. He said the Cal Trans permit was applied for in May. He stated the first phase of reopening Highland would take approximately weeks for construction time. He said the second phase, including sig;nali 'ation at Highland and Haven, is being held off at the request of Cal Trans;, but will probably be permitted by the end of August, and construction would probably take approximately 6-8 weeks. Mr. Van Steedn stated :he was concerned about school bus stop location. Commissioner Chitiea suggested he contact the transportation department of the school . Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing ,was closed. Planning Commission Minutes -9- July 26, 1989` Commissioner Chitiea expressed appreciation for the residents who came out to clarify their points of view. She observed that no one spoke in opposition and stated that despite the expense she felt it was necessary to support the amendment. Chairman McNiel stated ;that when the General Plan was adopted it was felt that the freeway Mould eventually be built. He said the design of the roads was done prior to the construction of the homes in the area. He said when the houses were built there was a dead end street,' which pleased the residents. He said when the change was 'made to facilitate the General Plan, the residents suddenly no longer had a blocked' off street. He felt the City should perhaps have provided access from the southerly tract to the south to alleviate the crowding on 19th Street. Even though he felt the amendment was only a stop- gap measure because eventually the freeway would be built, he supported the amendment. Motion: Mowed by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger to adopt the Resolution lAssessment' and General Plan Amendment recommending approval of Environmental Hg- . Motioln carried by the following vote: R AYES: COMMISSIONERS* CHITIEA MCNIL EIN E _DER NOES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, TOLSTOY -carried 9: 5 P.M. - Planning Commission recessed. 9. 35 P.M. - Planning Commission reconvened. K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CODE ,AMENDMENT -01 - CITY OF RAN H N A = E55iiihment of criteria for car Mashes within Neighborhood Commercial Districts. Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNel opened the public hearing. Terri Brooks, 101 Orange Street, Rancho Cucamonga, introduced her nine year old daughter Arian , who stated she did not want a car wash in her neighborhood because it would bring drugs and people would make noise while washing their cars at :00 A.M. Ms. Brooks then stated she had ;personally spoken to over 100 people who were opposed to a car wash at Haven and Lemon. Resolution be ;re rewritten '-toprohibit car washes in an She demanded that the ep _, Neighborhood Commercial areas. The following residents spoke in ;favor of the ordinance: Planning Commission Minutes -10- duly 26, 1989 � • � . . " . 1 M 1 r11 �. � a 1 " � � • 1 1 �y NMI � A 1 1 + g � , .... ,� � 1 � 1`#1 y1 111� 1 - 1 1 11 i1 :. � �y A ` s 1 • � � x .. � it a. '„ � 1 �1 ®: � � $ "' 1 • •'.:. to require full-time attendants, and felt the minimum lot size of one acre would preclude all car washes. They requested that if the ordinance were adopted, that all projects in process should be grandfathered. Jerry Greubel stated his proposed facility at Lemon and Haven would not handle t only r 1 1 d a trucks, o s horse trailers.s. H felt their due .daces was c � y and e p, circumvented because the City Council directed that the car wash not be built after hearing only one side of the story. He presented a copy of a survey which he had conducted within a -mile area of Haven and Lemon which contained over 300 signatures in support of the project. He stated he had not proposed a -hour car wash. He felt the objections from the residents were emotional and not supported by fast. He said he felt there were three main concerns. noise, visual impact, and security. He felt the -foot restriction was not necessary, as the noise factor could be mitigated by other measures.' Mr.. Turner stated he owned a dry cleaning store in the shopping center at Haven and Lemon. He stated it appeared the residents north on Haven supported a car wash at that particular center. He felt the ordinance' should not be passed, but the issues should be 'addressed on a case-by-case basis. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Chairman McNiel stated the Planning Commission was charged with providing for reasonable and proper~ development : of services and housing within> the community. He said that many years ' ago residents were complaining because there were too many service stations. Then several closed and now people complain that there is nowhere in the City to buy gas;. He stated the Planning` Commission had been directed by City Council to draft an ordinance to set criteria for car washes in Neighborhood Centers. He said the Planning Commission operates under the direction of the City Council and Mould therefore consider this ordinance and make a recommendation to the City Council .. Commissioner Chitiea stated the discussion regarded an ordinance to set City; standards and not a specific car wash. She stated she had beard some compelling arguments for the setting of standards and she felt it was appropriate to set standards and criteria in addition to looking at each location on its own merits. She felt the "standards were not designed with a specific site in mind, but were rather designed for the protection of neighborhoods. She said marketing studies have indicated the desire for car washes in communities, but not necessarily in peoples' back ,yards. She stated the City has never been adverse ; to setting precedent when it was thought it, reflected the highest standards and protected the citizens of the community. She felt a 00-foot setback was reasonable in comparison to fast foods, another intense use. She felt it was necessary to consider noise, pollution, lighting, safety, traffic, and supervision, and those items were addressed in the proposed ordinance. She felt the standards in the ordinance were fain Commissioner Weinberger stated that City Council had asked staff to draw dap an ordinance which would be fair to the community as a whale. She found the survey presented by Mr. Greubel interesting, but noted that on the last' page Planning Commission Minutes -1 - July 26, 1989 of the survey one of the ;petition signers stated he wanted only a "full- service" car wash. She supported staffs recommendation and the ordinance. Chairman McNiel felt that the developer of the center at Lemon and Haven had done a +terrific ;job on a shopping center that no one in the neighborhood initially wanted, and now the neighbors are happy with the center. He felt ' r. Creube 1 has shown that he cares about the community and surrounding residents and had done an exceptional job in designing the proposed' car wash. He felt the ordinance was designed to place car washes in an unobtrusive area of larger parcels of commercial development. Commissioner Chitiea Mated that the 10-foot buffer allows alternate uses within that ', CSC feet. She felt car washes could then be looked at on an individual basis,; so long as the buffering and the mitigation measures are considered. Chairman McNiel expressed concern regarding the on-site attendant requirement because he felt it defeats the purpose of self-service car washes. Commissioner Weinberger agreed that a full time attendant should not necessarily he rewired in all instances. She felt it would have the effect of eliminating the building of future self-service car washes. Commissioner Chitiea felt an on-site attendant would assist in controlling noise pollution from users, loitering, and litter. She felt that the attendant could be associated with an adjoining use, such as a detail shop. Chairman McNiel felt an attendant should not be required in lame neighborhood centers. Commissioner Chitiea felt one should definitely be required in small neighborhood centers} She stated the ordinance was specific to Neighborhood Commercial and an 'attendant would not be required on commercial sites. Commissioner Weinberger stated that she did not support the on-site' attendant for commercial centers, but would support one for Neighborhood Commercial centers. Commissioner Chitiea felt the hours of operation listed in the ordinance were generous. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Weinberger, to adopt the Resolution recommending Environmental Assessment and Development Code Amendment Bg- 1.. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBE E NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS.- BLAKESLE , TOLSTO carried Planning Commission Minutes - ' - July 26, 1989 COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no further Commission business. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Chitie , seconded by Weinberger„ unanimously carried, to adjourn. 11 :00 P.M. - Planning Commission ;Adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 Planning Commission Minutes - 4- July 26, 1989 i CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting July 20, 1989 Hillside Development 0rdinance workshop Chairman McNiel called the special workshop to order at 10: 0 P.M. at the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel Betsy Weinberger ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, Darr Coleman, Principal Planner`, Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner; Betty Miller, Associate Engineer; Bev- Nissen, Associate ' Planner} Cindy Norris;, Assistant Planner Staff presented a slide show that included photographs of Rancho Cucamonga and surrounding communities, illustrating gourd and bad examples of hillside development. Staff then reviewed new additions and revisions to the proposed Hillside Residential Ordinance. Dan Coleman, ;Principal Planner, suggested that copies' of photos from the slide shag and additional text should be added to further illustrate points raised in the slide show* Members, of the Planning Commission concurred. Commissioner Chitiea indicated that the ordinance should require the use of natural colors and materials. Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, indicated that a reference to colors and materials is contained within the architecture section. Chairman McNiel indicated split level foundations should be required in Slope Zone Category No. 2. Ms. Norris indicated that a reference to split level foundations is contained in 'Section 17.11.050. Chairman McNiel suggested that it would be a nice gesture to send Bruce Emerick, a former Planning Commissioner, a copy of the completed document because he had worked' so 'hard on it. The other Commissioners concurred, Commissioner Blaesley 'asked the status of the Etiwanda North Specific Plan. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, provided a current status update and asked if staff should now forward a copy of the Hillside {ordinance to doe DiIorio and the Land Plan Design Groups Commissioner Chitiea felt that a copy should be provided` to there as soon as possible and the other Commissioners concurred. Adjournment The workshop adjourned at 1 ¢4a P.M. Respectfully Submitted, A Arad Bu ler Secretary Planning Commission Minutes - - duly 20, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 12, 1989 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH OF OFFICE Mayor Dennis Stout administered the oath of office to Betsy Weinberger. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel , Betsy Weinberger ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Vince Berton! , Assistant Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Loyd Goolsby, Senior Plan Checker; Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner; Brett Horner, Associate Planner; Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Steve Ross, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that late in the afternoon he had received a telephone call from the Etiwanda School District regarding item N, indicating that they would be unable to attend the meeting tonight. Mr. Buller indicated that the Commission may wish to go ahead and address the matter in the absence of the School District. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Slake ley, carried with Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of June 22, 1989. CONSENT CALENDAR A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-09 - BARTON DEVELOPMENT ei eve opment of 12 i n u tr i s u 1W1 ngs tt}ta 1 n square feet on 6.95 acres of laud in the General Industrial District (Subarea ) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the northeast corner of Utica Avenue and Jersey Boulevard - AN. 209-142-15. B. VACATION OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD - PLAZA DE LAS BRIAS - A request to vacate the frontage road on Foot i Bou evar ocate a the southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Ramona Avenue, approximately 80 feet wide and 544 feet long - AP , 28-3O1-15, 16, & 1 . ' C. VARIANCE 89-01 - LAND - A request to construct a trellis structure in the rant yar , w is encroaches six feet into the front yard setback at6465 Jasper Street - APN: 1062-621-68. (Continued from dune 28, 1989. ) Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel , approved with Weinberger abstaining, to adopt the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS 0, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13861 LEWIS HOMES - A= resi antis sut ivi ion and design review --of-118—cond-6-6firCiums on 5 lots and 8 single family lots on 9.07 acres of land in the Medium Density Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) within the Terra Vista' Planned Community, located at the southwest corner of Terra Vista Parkway' and Milliken Avenue - APN: 1077-0 1.-84 (Continued from June 28, 1989.) Brett Horner, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea stated that the Design Review Committee had made recommendations which were not shown in the Resolution. She asked if the changes had been made and approved. Mr. Horner stated; the first four items had been addressed in revised plans submitted to staff, and the remaining two items were conditions in the Resolution. Commissioner Chitiea asked to see the revised elevations Brad Buller, City Planner, added that this tract had previously been continued; because of the school impaction issue. He stated the City Attorney would like- to suggest additional wording to Planning Condition 1 allowing the condition to be waived if the City receives notice that the applicant and the affected School Districts have entered into an agreement to privately accommodate any and all school impacts as a result of the project. He said staff had received a copy of an agreement between the School District and the developer that would assure adequate school facilities. He stated in the future staff would Planning Commission Minutes -2- Julys 12, 1989 not deem a project complete for processing until the developer could demonstrate that the affected School District and the developer have reached an understanding of providing mitigation measures for 'adequate schooling. Commissioner Chitiea stated she did not see all details on the elevations and requested that the item be returned to 'Design Review on consent calendar. She stated they should see details on the brackets. Chairman McNiel suggested the items be reviewed by Commissioners Chitiea and Bla esle,y, as they were on the original Committee. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Don Thompson, Lewis Homes, stated Lewis Homes objected to the school condition, as they felt that under Government Code Section 699. and b they could only pay $1.56 per square afoot. They felt they could not be 'forced to form a Mello-Roos District. He said he understood the Planning Commission would not modify the condition, and stated they may appeal the condition. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed, Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolutions ' approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13351, with modifications to require return to Design Review for 'consent review of Design Review Committee requested revisions and the additional suggested language regarding the school impaction issue. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES* COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHI `IEA, MCNI L, WEINBE GER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT* COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-16 - UPLAND MASONRY A 'request to esta6T—ish a contractors office and fiFa in an eMfl ng non-conforming building totaling 6,400 square feet on 0.82 acres of land in the Medium High Residential District 144 dwelling units per acre) , located on the west side of Archibald Avenue, north of the Southern ' Pacific Railroad right-of-way - API* 0 -14 -1 . Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel asked if the area needed for additional parking area was paved. Mr. Hayes responded that it was. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes - - duly 1 , 199` Manuel Luna, owner of Upland Masonry, 8935 Hellman Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, requested approval of the project. Rearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea stated that ;the proposed use would not cause any adverse impiacts on the existing surroundings .and that the additional landscaping and the block wall adjacent to the school would in fact improve the area from its present situation. She foresaw no overall change in the land use. Because the outdoor storage was; limited, she supported the project. Chairman McNiel also supported the project and felt the Residential ; designation did not make a lot of sense. He felt the use was an extension of an existing situation with neighboring Stevens Foothill Rentals. He felt it would be a benefit to the community. Motion; Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89-1 . Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, ENITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE i ABSENT} COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT B - g - UNIVERSAL AOE ® A request to establish an arcade in a liiiid space of 850 square eet within an existing commercial center on 1.26 acres of land in the General Commercial District, located at the southwest corner of Arrow- Route and Malvern Avenue` - AP : 09-041-51. Steve Ross, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report and suggested changes to the Resolution, including correction of spelling of applicant Batiste's name, deletion of the words 'sand after curfew" from Planning Condition 1, and deletion of the requirement that the approval would become` void upon a change of ownership. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Applicant Michael Earl introduced his partner, Terrence Batiste, and stated they were available to answer questions.. Chairman McNiel asked if the; applicants agreed to the,' Sheriff's recommendation that a uniformed security guard be present. Mr. Batiste stated they did not feel a uniformed security guard should be required. Planning Commission Minutes _4® July 1 , 1989 Mr. Earl stated that Mr. and Mrs. Batiste, as well as he and his wife, plus the full time--employee would be supervising and he felt the security guard would be unnecessary. he said he also; had a close associate who works for the Los i Angeles Police Department, who was helping them and would be giving advice in different 'areas. Chairman McNiel stated that the shopping center is located in a marginal neighborhood and the shopping cuter has already had a graffiti problem.! He suggested that it was a good idea that they have some sort of uniformed security, even if one of them wore a uniform. Commissioner Chitiea felt that the term "uniformed security" connotes someone 1 who is trained and licensed. She' felt the requirement was appropriate for the safety of the premises and the patrons. Mr. Earl' stated that both he and Mr. Batiste have had experience dealing with the ,younger generation. He stated he previously'owned a service station where he dealt iwith' younger people. He felt they had the necessary experience. Mr.' Batiste stated he presently works for Walnut Christian Junior High as the basketball coach} He stated he also !works as a volunteer with the football coach at Ganesha High School , and both he and Mr. Earl were very active with their church.' He felt he provides a positive attitude for younger people. Commissioner Weinberger asked if bike racks and "no loitering" signs would be provided. Mr: Batiste stated they would be provided. Commissioner Weinberger felt' a uniformed security guard was a good idea, but wondered why the arcade was being singled out to provide the guard. She felt the other businesses in the center should help pay for the guard. She felt they should first have an opportunity to show they could control the problem themselves. Chairman McNiel stated that in the past the Commission had required arcades to provide a security guard. Commissioner Weinberger felt that as the arcade would not be serving alcohol, the guard should not be a requirement until -a problem developed. Commissioner Blakeley felt the applicants were aware there was a potential ' problem and he felt it should not be required as a condition, even though he recommended they have a security guard. Commissioner C i iea felt perhaps a guard could be required only during ' evening hours` because the evening' clientele would be different, as during the day school-age children would not be present. Commissioner Ilakesley stated he wasn't sure what kind of history there was for arcades, and felt the same requirements, might apply to the convenience planning ,Commission Minutes -5- July 1 , '1989 i store at the other end of the building. He felt that singling out the arcade ' was unfair. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the recommendation for the security guard referred to the interior use, ;and the issue of graffiti outside the business< could be considered separately for the entire center. He stated the Commission could establish certain hours for the guard, or could delete the condition. Commissioner McNiel stated that when arcades first started to surface there was tremendous resistance from neighboring businesses and residents and experience has shown perhaps they were false fears. He felt it might be appropriate to perhaps review the entire center to see if a security guard should be required for the entire center with the cost being spread iamong the businesses. Commissioner ;Chitiea suggested that the requirement for a security guard be replaced with a condition that two adults , including one Supervisor, be on the premises at all times, and that the Conditional Use Permit could be modified in the future if a problem develops. Chairman McNiel felt that the requirement for two adults 'night be relaxed in the future if the Sheriff's department gage a favorable report in the next four to six months. Commissioners Chitiea and Blakesly concurred with Chairman McNiiel 's suggestion. Motion; Moved by Chitiea, seconded by B'lakesley, to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 69-19, with modifications to require the presence of two adults at all times, but delete the requirement for a security guard. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES® COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY CHITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES- COMMISSIONERS.* NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried C. 'VARIANCE 69-07' - WILLIAM LYON COMPANY - A request to allow E foot high bJ­o_ck__w_a_TTs within the front yard set ack area of Etiwanda Avenue, located on the west side of Etiwan a between Baseline Road and Highland Avenue APN: 22 -513-79 &' 80, 227-471-61 thru 66, 227-481-66 thru CB and '227_ 91.-8 & 53 thru 56. Brett Horner, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNil opened the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes -6- duly 1.2, 1989 � .i, w w w w Mk � w i w � . "i �e '" w i N . i w wi . i, i � .� • i • i w i a w y w "" � i ww wii iw i • i r � e i rt i # � i i e i � . w i � i . � i w, w � i - �, i w i ` w M!� � i w M i" . i i. i «� ! w w is � � .,# � w i .. aNi' w w ... �. . ... w,, .i i w .. i w w u w i � w- � w -i w i, i w i - _ _i i w - i w i i w . ' i - i . i „ s ' i ii • �. . ; w i; w c � i w i " w , . w w w w � � . ' w - i i �, i � w r & � i � i 4 . i . i w a '" � a i i i i � r i �; •�# Commissioner Chitiea felt the walls break the flow of the streetscape. She stated that typically the building of new, attractive projects encourages rehabilitation, renovation, and remodeling in the surrounding area. She felt the walls would discourage that. rehabilitation. She felt that an 8 foot wall on the downside makes a strong exclusionary statement. She felt it was inappropriate to bring walls to the street and she did not support the Variance. Commissioner Weinberger felt it was inconceivable that the William Lyon Company would build the walls in conflict with the Etiwanda Specific Plan. She felt a buffering effect could be achieved with landscaping: Chairman McNiel stated that when the Victoria Community Plan and the Etiwanda Specific Plan were formulated, estate residential zoning was specified in the Etiwanda Specific Plan with minimum half acre sites required along Etiwanda Avenue. He said it was decided that Etiwanda Avenue should be reflective of days gone by and the maintenance and rehabilitation of some of the older houses was to be encouraged. He felt the galls were added to the project to soothe the buyers and enhance the sale of the properties, but the walls destroy the concept of Etiwanda Avenue. He felt the area should be as ;open and spacious as Etiwanda was seven gears ago. He felt the walls should; not extend past the houses and he did not support the Variance. He asked if the Resolution stated where the walls should start and stop. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the Resolution only denies the Variance and does not state the code standards. He stated that the only action before the Commission this evening was whether the applicant could build the block walls ' within the setback; and if the Variance was denied, staff could proceed with enforcement to have the walls removed down to the approved retaining walls, ' He stated the Etiwanda Specific plan only allows 4 foot high open-view fencing within the front setback along Etiwanda Avenue and that the applicant would have to return to request permits' in order to build such walls. He said such permit requests typically require staff review and approval, rather than Planning Commission review, Chairman McNiel felt that under the concept of the Etiwanda Specific Plan no walls should be permitted along Etiwanda Avenue, and he felt only open fencing should be allowed in the required setback area. Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution denying Variance 89-0 . ` Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY', CHITIEA,:MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES. COMMISSIONERS. NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried 8: 5 P.M. Planning Commission Recessed Planning Commission Minutes _8 July 12, 1989 i 8;40 P.M. _ Planning Commission Reconvened H. ENVIRONMENTAL ; ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1413 - AHMANSON - residential subdivision of sin 9 g e ami Ms on 54 acres —of7and in the Low Density Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Etiwana Avenue and 25th Street r AN: 22 -082-01. Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and revised Exhibits A and B depicting revised paseo configuration at north and west tract boundaries. Brad Buller, City' Planner, suggested the Resolution` be modified to reflect that Planning Condition 7 would be waived if the City receives notice that the applicant and the affected School 'District have entered into an agreement to accommodate any and all school impacts. Chairman' McNiel asked for more information on grading and drainage issues. Loyd Goolsby, Senior Plan Checker, stated' that on the southerly tier lots there are 1 -1.3 lots that would drain west to east to Etiwanda to owlet, thereby having multiple lots in a battery drainage concept. As there might be as much as S acres of 'land 'involved in a rear-lot drainage configuration, it would mean 11-21 second feet of water,' which could, if the facilities are not maintained, enter the tract to the south and provide substantial damage to any structures that it would pass through. He showed three alternatives: A. A rear drainage configuration utilizing an l -foot maintenance access road and a facility of approximately 6 feet in width to accommodate the drainage.` He felt a secured method of maintenance was critical to avoid future problems. He said a Homeowners' Association could be responsible, but there might be benign neglect. If the maintenance were assumed by the public, the burden of financing could be great, B. Have the majority of the lots drain to the front of the streets, leaving only a residual area of 1/2-3/4 acre on the slopes, which would mean -1/2 to 2' second feet of water. In the absence of maintenance, if the water encroached on the southerly tract, the amount of water could, in most instances, be carried through the normal house swales. C. A relocation of the property ;line off the existing boundary to the tap of the slope, thereby giving the slope to the lower property. The lower ' property owners would then be subjected to the waters generated on their own property and they would also be responsible for the maintenance to protect against damage from the runoff on their own slope. He felt the situation Mould occur frequently as tracts abut against each other in the Etiwanda area. He felt the direction taken would probably be a policy- setting trend regarding acceptable heights of slopes and acceptable methods of drainage. He indicated the 11 foot width mentioned in Alternative A was taken from the draft Hillside Development Ordinance, currently being reviewed by the Planning Commission. Planning Commission Minutes -9- July 12, 1989 s r. e. `is M a • "'^ f M,. E . M �. ..+ r E M M t s M # f r • ti 4 '� M 1 .t • � M i • � � ..ice � Y � M r ' e .M i °' .• .. � M » r . r ! A M f • • r . M +. Q � M. M' +. �. ® ® ,M i is • M •. • /, n M... • f" • � ..., � M .�. M • a . . _ r � • � � r . � M w : • • • • M M . r�r - ® w �, r. 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Page stated that along the southern boundary there would be 8 or 9 lots ' and approximately =10 or 15 internal lots that would exceed the maximum 12 foot height. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that if Option C were chosen and graded backwards with drainage going on a single-lot to single-lot basis through the downhill; property` to the 'strut, a 12-15 inch pipe could possibly be considered grossly oversized. Even though the land would all be graded, ;this would more closely approximate ` the characteristic look of the original slope. It would necessitate more curb drainage outlets, but he felt that is necessity in hillside communities. he said that at the back ' of the lot it would be necessary to divert the water to the; corner of the lot via berm, Swale, etc. with a catch basin inlet to a 12-15 inch pipe running ;alongside the property" line transitioning; out through the curb through one of the parkway culverts. He said thiat Mould require fairly simple maintenance, and if something goes wrong, because its only a one-on-one basis, there is not a significant amount of water. It would alleviate the necessity of sale after Swale. Mr. Hanson stated it might be a little difficult to accomplish because it is not known where the loaner lots will be on the southerly project and the pipes need to be terminated in the interim. Mr. Maguire stated it may be necessary to have Ahmanson build the entire street in order to build their lower tier lots. Chairman McNiel felt that would probably be the best solution. He did not feel a lot of"" swales would be appropriate. Mr. Page felt that was a solution' that could he implemented with the cooperation of the adjacent property owner, who at 'present dues not have a preliminary grading plan. Mr. Goolsby stated that a maximum slope height should be established for use at the south boundary. He felt the applicant should have a guideline to work with. He felt the 8-foot maximum would not work' in this instance. Mr. Maguire stated that in discussing overall height, cumulative height needs to be addressed taking into account the future tract to the south. Mr. Goolsby stated the southerly tract would probably come in with approximately a -8 foot depression from the existing ground at their northerly boundary. He felt the side splits 'should also be addressed and stated Ahmanson was talking about approximately 7 feet. He said he had not Planning Commission Minutes -1 - July 12 1989 seen any drawings which would indicate whether they were taking advantage of all the methodo-logy which would allow a reduction, such as grading away from houses at the maximum percentages allowed, and lowering the slopes between houses not carrying a flat pad. Mr. Page stated the pain would slope ;in their entirety at about and then there would be a two-to-ogre slope down to the next pad, which would also dope. He said none of the pads were split with two flat pads and a slope in between. He said it would end up with 7 foot slopes on side yard areas if they were to try to raise some of the pads to drain only to the street, rather than cross lot. He felt that if they could drain cross lot on a one-to-one basis, they should be able to maintain a -foot maximum in the side yard slopes in the tract. He felt relief From the maximums might be rewired only at the boundaries. Commissioner Blakesley felt it was necessary to address the -foot maximum and how to mitigate the slopes because there would be times when the ';applicant would not have the opportunity for cooperation of the southerly property owner. Chairman McNiel stated he would be agreeable to allowing Engineering and Planning to establish the number` based on this evening's discussions and the draft Hillside Ordinance. Commissioner Chitiea felt that the scenario depicted by Mr. Maguire would give the least damaging overall view of the hillside and curb cuts and putting the water underground was preferable to a Swale;approach. Mr. Buller suggested that the Commission give direction to staff to work with the applicant at less than 12 feet. Mr.` Maguire stated' that this development is at the lower end of the hillside grades and as development advances up the hills with - t slopes, the maximum ;slope would probably be higher. He said it was important for the product to fit the terrain. Mr. Page stated he had talked with their engineer and they felt they could live with a 12 foot requirement at the boundary. Chairman McMiel stated that 12 feet should be the maximum, but 8-9 feet was more the optimum. Mr. Page stated they would strive for -g feet, and would accept 'a 12 foot maximum. He said if they found that to be a problem, they would return to the Planning Commission fora modification-. Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed, Mr. Buller stated that staff was working with the applicant to set criteria for planting and possible retaining walls to help the buyers maintain the downslope property. Planning Commission Minutes -14- duly 12, 1989 Commissioner Chitiea stated the Commission needed to address the trail ' connection at Etiwanda Avenue, She felt it was appropriate to support the Design Review Committee proposal to provide a connection. Commissioners Blakesley and Weinberger agreed it should open to Etiwanda. Mr. Buller stated that the current design shows the walkway going out to the curb, and they could create a landscape buffer. Commissioner Blaksley felt ;that would be appropriate, Chairman McNiel felt it should invite people in from the street. Commissioner Chitiea stated it should not provide for easy access to the street because it was mid-block. Commissioner Blakesleyfi agreed that he would rather have people come out from the trail and go one way or the other to the crossing. Chairman McNiel stated he wanted a view corridor and trail fencing would be satisfactory. He felt then the Sheriffs could drive by and see down the corridor. Mr. Buller suggested the sidewalk could be pulled up as close as possible to the entry area to create a wider area which then could direct an individual to go to the heft or right as opposed to up over a low-mounded groundcover area. He said it would not have to be screened with 'shrubbery. Commissioner Chitiea felt if partial fencingwere provided it would help alleviate some of the concerns of residents who might feel someone would park on Etiwanda and eater through the rear and burglarize homes. Chairman McNiel felt it was important not to block the view corridor: with landscaping, but that a wrought iron fence would be acceptable. Mr. Maguire suggested that any phasing should not be 'split down the paseos, so that people would move in at the same time with the paseo already in place and not blocked off. Commissioner 'Chitlea asked if Community Trail fencing would go 'down Etiwanda. r. Maguire stated the trail fencing would ultimately be on the east side of Etiwanda. Mr. Buller stated that the Commission might wish to have the greenbelt paseo lots dedicated for annexation into the Landscape Lighting ?District. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution' approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative. Tract 14139, with modifications to provide for redesign of the grading to utilize through-lot conduit drainage on a single-lot to single-lot basis with the southerly Planning Commission Minutes -15- July 12, 1989 boundary being limited to a maximum height of 12 feet, annexation of the pas os to the Landscape Maintenance District, and addition of the suggested language regarding the school impaction issue. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY C ITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried I. AMENDMENT TO THE CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION ORDINANCE - An amendment to hapter .22 of the do cia e, mo ying parking requirements for condominium conversions to be consistent with Development Code parking requi reme'nts. Vince Bertoni, Assistant Planner,; presented the staff report. Commissioner Blakesley stated that it made sense to require the sane parking for both condominiums and apartments, but he felt in the future they right consider requiring garages instead of carports. Chairman McNiel opened the ;public hearing.; Bearing no testimony, he closed the public hearing. Motion: Moved by Weinberger, seconded by Blaknsley, to adopt the Resolution' recommending approval of the Amendment- to the Condominium Conversion Ordinance. Motion' carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNI L, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried 9:55 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed. 10: 5 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened. J. VARIANCE 89-08 - GENESIS REAL ESTATE - A request to reduce the minimum bui ` ing het a , t e minimum parking setback, and the average landscaping depth requirements for a 50,000 office facility on 4.6 acres of land in the industrial Park District '(Subarea 1 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the southeast corner of Milliken Avenue and bth Street - APN. 229-341-02 andiO4. Related file Development Review 89-10. Planning Commission Minutes -1 - duly 12, 1989 NEW BUSINESS K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 9-10 - GENESIS REAL E he eve opment o O square oot office facility oh . acres of land in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 12) of the industrial Specific Plan, located on the southeast 'corner of Milliken ' Avenue and 6th Street - APN: 229- 1-02 and 04. Tom Orahn, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He stated the Design Review Committee had requested the applicant extend the upper portion of the freestanding wall along 6th Street into the building' corners. He indicated the applicant had brought a revised model and building elevations which reflected Design Review Committee concerns regarding additional landscaping treatment to enhance the building elevation, provision of a focal point at the corner of Cth Street and Milliken, and provision of additional landscaping along Milliken Avenue. i Chairman McNiel opened the public` hearing. Allan Lansford, partner in the Genesis Real Estate Group, requested revision of Condition '2 because they did not feel there was enough room to meander the sidewalks in front of the building because of the terrain, ' bushes, and berming of the parking. He said they felt the entrance walkway was designed to create a sweeping effect 'leading into the sidewalk. Commissioner Chitiea asked what material was selected for the entry point Don Tompkins, architect, stated the entry was a broom finish concrete with an integral' color, with the pattern matching the pattern on the facade of the building. Chairman McNiel suggested possibly clustering the trees in order to have room' to meander the sidewalk. Brad Buller, City Planner, felt the landscape architect might wish to retain' the regimentation of the trees in conjunction with the architecture, but could perhaps move the trees further hack into the shrub cussing in order to have room to meander the sidewalk. Chairman McNiel stated that would' be acceptable. Commissioner Blakesley felt that would provide more shade for the parking area. Mr.' Lunsford iwas agreeable to having the landscape architect work with staff. Commissioner Chitiea asked if additional trees were going to added on the perimeter of the parking. Mr. Lunsford stated they had more trees than code rewired because they added trees on the islands. He stated they would 'back ' up the trees along the perimeter, so that cars would not hit them." Planning Commission Minutes -17- duly 12, 1989 Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea stated there had been an evolution from original plans and she` appreciated the applicant's willingness to work with the City. She stated she had been uncomfortable with the maximization of the site and the r location of the facility in relation to the corner, but she felt the present plan provides a better streetscape than originally proposed. She stated they had approved the metal roof screening structure in conjunction with the circular portion that forms the entryway because they had seen photographs which indicated it might be an interesting solution, and it would be properly anchored to withstand the winds. She Mated it was an innovative approach and merited +consideration. Chairman McNiel welcomed the developers to the City of Rancho Cucamonga. Commissioner Chitiea stated the findings listed in the staff report were well stated and she supported the Variance. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolutions approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 89-10 and Variance Bg-DB, with direction to meander the sidewalk. Motion carried by the following vote: AYE'S: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, C ITIEA, MCNIEL, WEINBERGER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE' ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TDLSTDY -carried Mr. Lansford stated that it had been a pleasure to work with the City because the staff members had all been cheerful and professional .and worked hard with then. DIRECTOR IS REPORTS L. CAR WASHES IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel invited` public comment. Gene illlrich, 6289 Castilla, Rancho Cucamonga, requested that when the Planning Commission considered the ordinance being prepared, they tray to visit the sites to i observe conditions so that they could better understand why he had initially brought his concerns to the City Council. Chairman McNiel stated that the Planning Commission attempts to treat all matters with sensitivity to the neighborhood, but sometimes there are two sides to a situation, and solutions at times make both sides unhappy. Planning Commission Minutes _1 duly 12, 1989 Mr. Ullrich stated he had brought the matter to City Council after the project he opposed had been pulled, and his intention was to address all neighborhood centers. There were no further public comments. M. THOMAS WINERY OAS INVESTORS - A request to modify color of light fixtures, and concrete surface and color of sidewalk and fountain plaza near theFoothill/Vineyard intersection.` Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. ChairmaniMcNiel invited public comment. Rudy Stroink,; Project Manager for CAS Investors, stated the light fixtures were not a big issue, as the color was a matter of taste. He stated he preferred the white. He said he asked the architect who is working on the winery renovation what colors were used for light fixtures 100 years ago. The architect indicated forest green was used at that time, but when the winery was built it did not have any exterior lights. Mr. Stroink felt the light fixtures should be minimized in order to retain an authentic look, and he felt white would do that best. He felt that to use the approved green shade, the lights would be more visible' and stand out as a 'focal point. He said when he first worked with the City they suggested he not show landscape drawings o CalTrans as CalTrans considers the first 25 feet from the curb to be their 1 territory and they do not want too many trees, river rock walls, or colored or exposed concrete. He got the impression that the strategy was to get simple plans approved and then attempt to: expand the concept ;during construction. He said CalTrans had stopped them the day ; they started building the rock retaining wall and, after much discussion with CalTrans," they were finally allowed to build the wall . He said that CalTrans refused to allow the colored concrete and insisted that their specifications be followed. He said that o the landscape; drawings it stated they would build the project according to CalTrans specifications. He stated that following the opening of Souplantation, Mr. Coleman told him to replace the concrete with the specified color, but he requested meeting with the Planning Commission to try to get the conditions modified. He said they tried to achieve the intention of the Conditional Use Permit. He said the concrete around the fountain is a 'gray exposed aggregate and he felt it fit very well with the river rock and in fact looked better than brown. He stated that his landscape designer told him the gray sidewalk would look better. He requested the Planning Commission approve the modifications to allow the gray concrete. He stated if the Commission did not approve the gray, the concrete could be dyed instead of being nipped out and replaced. ` Chairman McMiel felt a dye; would not be permanent and would require more maintenance. He asked if the fixtures on Souplantation would also be changed ' to white ` if white fixtures were approved. Planning Commission Minutes -19- duly 12, 1989 Mr. Stroink responded that they would, because he felt the utilities should not command so-much attention. Commissioner Weinberger felt white fixtures would stand out more than gray. Chairman McNiel agreed. Commissioner Weinberger noted that gray fixtures had` already been rejected by the Commission. Commissioner Chitiea stated that white fixtures had been tried on Souplantation in the beginning and they did not look good. She felt it was unfortunate that the color on Souplantation was a brighter green and asked if Souplantation would be willing to change their mullions to forest green. Mr. Stroink responded that Souplantation had requested the current green shade to match their logo. Commissioner Chitiea preferred forest green, but she felt it should not be introduced for the parking lot lights, as consistency is important. There were no further public comments. Chairman McNiel felt it would cause maintenance problems to paint the lights another shade of green. Commissioner Chitiea did not like the white because; she felt it looked raw. She stated that in other shopping centers the lighting fixtures are decorative features and she felt that works well . Even though the shade of green was not a shade she 'particularly liked, ; she `.felt it presented a more finished± look than the white and ties the mullions and the metal fixtures together. Commissioner 3lakesley felt that green should be used for lack of a better solution. Commissioner Weinberger agreed that the white looks unfinished, especially' with the green on the Souplantation. She felt they were attractive light` fixtures Chairman McNiel stated he liked the white because it is raw. The consensus of the Commission was 3-1-1 to require green light fixtures. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was on the Design Review Committee at the time the potential sidewalk changes were discussed. She stated they had somei questions at the time for Engineering regarding the problems with CalTrans regarding coloriation She stated the Committee felt it was very important to maintain the consistency of ;color in the plaza area and going north on Vineyard because this is the first of the four corners which will complete the design for the intersection, and will set a precedent, not only for this intersection, but also; for other development in the Foothill Specific plan area. She stated she wanted' to see it the way it was designed. Planning Commission Minutes - Q- duly 12, 1989 Chairman McHlel asked if colorized concrete was called for In the Mans for the service station on the southeast corner'. Mr.. Coleman stated the Foothill Specific Plan requires special pavement treatment. He stated the project was coming in for plan check and would be the first development to set' the tone. Chairman McHiel asked if the sidewalk on the south side of Foothill was being treated in a like fashion to the sidewalk at the Thomas Winery development. Brad Buller,; City Planner, stated the property on the north was to be developed differently because of the historic nature of the winery and to make it appear similar to what had been there in the past. He stated the other three corners were to follow more precisely the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, which calls for expanded sidewalks, almost creating a plaza. area. Chairman McHiel stated it was then unique to itself. l l h t Commissioner B ake_s e�y felt e t at sync � was exposed aggregate, the color of the concrete would not have that much influence* He stated he would prefer something that was obviously different to the eye. Commissioner Weinberger felt that the activity center on the corner would not attract that many people. She felt the gray complemented the area.. Chairman Mc iel stated that when the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan was developed, all the buildings were pulled back from the street except on the corners. He said the corner treatments were specified for all of Foothill ' Boulevard to attract pedestrians along Foothill Boulevard. He said in this situation, because of the 'historical' significance of the winery being the second oldest winery in the country, an historical architect was utilized to research the winery. He felt the project was significant enough to demand removal of the sidewalk. He felt it was important' that: the development' community understand the Planning Commission does not easily accept errors and compromises. He did not feel the concrete could be dyed and have a long- lasting effect. Buss Maguire, City Engineer, stated CalTrans claims jurisdiction 30 feet from the curb. However, because sidewalks are the Cty's responsibility and liability, CalTrans will defer to the City se long as he provides then a letter stating that the City Engineer and the ,City Planner have agreed that the construction greets City; standards. In the public right-of-way the City defers to CalTrans. He had a concern about exposed aggregate because it has not been tested; however, eoloriation with conventional construction method any finish would be acceptable. He stated the street plans could be amended..' and he would then sign off and forward a letter to CalTrans stating the City; has approved, and CalTrans will approve. He said he had not heard the desire to have a colrization 'request processed through CalTrans.' It was the consensus of the Commission -1-1, to direct the developer to build according to the approved plans in terms of coloriation.` Planning Commission Minutes - - July 12, 1989 1 Chairman McNiel invited public comment. Mr. Stroink stated that because the approval from CalTrans would take time, he would prefer to tie the completion to Phase II. Commissioner Chitiea stated that seemed a reasonable request. The Commission concurred that it be acceptable to tie reconstruction to Phase ` 1. Mr. Stroink Mated he was disappointed because he thought a compromise had been worked out in Design Review to only tear up the corner area. Commissioner Chitiea stated it had been discussed as a possibility. She said it was discussed as a compromise, but the Commission was feeling uncomfortable at the time because they did not have anyone from Engineering to find out if colored sidewalk would be acceptable to CalTrans. She stated she appreciated the developer's problem, but she warted the development to be as it was designed. Chairman; McNiel asked if it was reasonable to make ,just the corner, brown and have the rest' of the sideway gray, or if the treatment going east on Foothill and north on Vineyard enhanced the area more. Commissioner Blakesley stated there would be a break to gray,' either at the driveway or at the corner. Mr. Buller stated that the original intent of coloring the sidewalk brown was to make the area look, as historically authentic as possible. He stated that in driving by, the color of the sidewalk would not be that prominent. Mr. Stroink suggested that his landscape architect greet with Planning staff and see if there were other options. If they felt they had 'a better idea, they would return to the Commission. He stated if necessary, they would tear up the sidewalk and change to brown. Chairman McNiel stated that he could return to the Commission if he had a superior alternative. Mr. Buller asked if the; option should return to the full Commission. Chairman McNiel stated any new options should be considered by the full Commission. COMMISSION BUSINESS N. ETIWANDA SCHOOL DISTRICT' S RE` VEST TO ABANDON PROPOSED ACCESS BETWEEN THE CARYN ELEMERTARY SCHOOL AND THE GREENREIT Planning Commission Minutes - - duly 1 , 1989 f Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that Carlton Lightfoot, Superintendent for thiCtiwanda School District, indicated he had walked the site with two of his board members and they felt there were significant drainage and safety issues : with regard to the grading. He said they did not wish to meet with the Commission until he and Mr. ' Lightfoot had an opportunity to further walk the site. He said the Caryn Planned Community originally called for paseos t terminate at a park site. However,' during the process of annexation and negotiations with the School 'District, the park site became the school .< He said the development and schools have proceeded and the paseo is now under construction. The sidewalk' is planned to terminate at the northern school boundary. It was assumed when the park was designed, the walkway would carry on through the park and terminate at a public street. However, with the school, it terminates at a lawn area, with a significant embankment with a downgrade to a hard court area where the school plans to site portable units. Mr. Lightfoot has indicated he believes the paseo termination would be an attractive nuisance. He stated that when he previously walked the site with Mr. Lightfoot, he suggested they fence off' the portion that would allow direct pedestrian access to the south' and east and divert them to a field to the southwest, which is more closely aligned in grading to the access point on the paseo. He stated that on a previous cul-de-sac issue in the Cann Planned Community, the City Council had gone on record stating they supported` the Commission that cul -de-sacs should remain open, but they would not make an, final decisions on closures until the entire Caryn Planned Community has been built and occupied to determine the feelings of the residents. He said the School District has the right to do as they wish on their own property, so they may place a fence on School District 'property which would totally block access. Commissioner Chitiea reiterated her support of the paseo system as it was designed throughout the City. She felt to close off the safe means of ingress and; egress to the school would probably be opposed by the residents. She felt the City should make every effort possible to provide access and the residents wound be upset with the school if they should block it off. She stated the school where she teaches is fenced but has a gate which remains open on the weekend for pedestrian access to the playground, and it provides an attractive area for people to use on the weekends and very little vandalism is experienced. Commissioner Weinberger felt that if sidewalks were not in yet, it was a waste to taut them in if the school was going to block it off. Commissioner Chitiea felt if the sidewalk were installed and the school blocks it off, then the school is the one doing the blocking, whereas, if it is not installed, theca the City would be seen as blocking off the access.. Commissioner Blakesley wanted the paseo left open. Commissioner Weinberger agreed it should be left open. r. Buller stated that closure could create a potential nuisance area between properties. Planning; Commission Minutes -23- duly 12, 1989 It was the consensus of the Commission ( -0-1) that the paseo remain open. The Co fission indicated their willingness to meet on this issue again if the School District wished to meet. Chairman McNiel felt the School District should have sent a representative to this evening's meeting, as the item had been continued from a previous meeting D* DESIGNATION OF MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE CENTRAL PARK LIBRARY PRELIMINARY DESIGN UB- M TTEE It was the consensus of the Commission that Betsy Weinberger would be the delegate and Suzanne Chltiea would be the alternate. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. ADJOURNMENT Motion. Moved by Blaesle, , seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to adjourn, 11: 5 P.M. Planning Commission Adjourned to a duly 20, 1989 workshop at Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following wing Design Reviews to review the proposed Hillside Development Ordinance. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary Planning Commission Minutes . 4 duly 12, 1989 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING` COMMISSION Adjourned Meeting July 6, 1988 Terre Vista Town Center Workshop Chairman Larry McNiel called the special meeting to order at 9.45 P.M. at the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrows Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT; Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolsto ASSENT. David glakeley STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Russ Maguire, City Engineer; ; Betty Miller, Associate Civil Engineer; Debra Meier`, Staff Consultant Site Plan Modifications Tory Bond, of Architects Pacifica,> began the discussion by describing the changes on the site plan as represented in the modification. Mr. Bond explained that the footprints of building S and P ' have been adjusted' slightly to allow a view corridor toward Mervyn' . Since these buildings have not been through Design Review proceedings, the footprints should still be considered conceptual in nature. The Commission suggested that when buildings S and P are ready for Design Review that such features as a perimeter trellis and landscaping vwould? most likely be required. Mr. Bond explained that Pads I., 2, 3 and 4 are restaurant pads. Pads t & depict a final footprint as these restaurants are known users, Mr. Bond then described the modification to buildings E/F and /H. Each pair has now been combined into one building, due to perceived leasing problems of the original design. The Commission accepted the concept of combining the buildings.' However, the Commission expressed concern with the relationship of these buildings to the traffic circle and entertainment center. They do not want to lose any opportunity to capture overflow from the entertainment center to buildings E and G. In addition, the Commission expressed concern' regarding the service areas. The building frontage (or appearance of frontage) should continue around the buildings as much as possible. The final design, including footprint, service area screening, and landscaping must be resolved through specific Design Review of buildings E/F and G/H. The Commission discussed the possibility of creating a pedestrian corridor through the east side of the center. Such a corridor could allow pedestrian traffic from futuremulti-family residential on the north side of Town Center Drive, as well as direct access to the front of the center ' from the parking area at the rear of the shop buildings. Tom Band' stated such a feature :could present security and maintenance problems. The Commission reiterated heir position that it would be a desirable ` feature. r. Bond explained that. building T was being deleted from the original plan, as requested by er°vyn's. The Commission did not object to deleting building T. Staff was directed to prepare a resolution of approval for the site plan modifications. Montqomery Ward Mr. Bond updated the Commission on the progress of the Montgomery Ward building, elevations. A. Main Entry Mr. Bond explained that the transition panels on either side of the entry had been expanded, as they had discussed at the previous meeting. The Commission was still uncomfortable with the proportions of the entry. They suggested using paired- columns to strengthen the appearance. Mr. Bond stated that they had looked at that idea and felt that it did not complementthe structural ;aspect of the trellis., which worked very simply and elegantly. The Commission then suggested the possibility of :placing another set of columns near::.: the +building face. Mr. Bond agreed to pursue that suggestion. B. Promenade r. Bond indicated that he had; eliminated the kiosk than had previously been in front o ` Montgomery Ward within the pedestrian lot. went on to describe the t parking e e h o ro Wade through e a p - g Kr _ g promenade as it related to the entry of Wards'. Planning Commission Minutes -2- July Bi 1989 i, i The Commission indicated that the promenade should align with the center of the store entrance. They felt that it would; provide a more complete and finished appearance, rather than looking like an after- thought. Mr. Bond ;agreed to look at redesign of the promenade to achieve the proper align C. Kids Store Mr. Bond explained the most recent changes to the Kids Store elevation. The Commission was satisfied with the level of detail used on the building face under the arcade. They suggested that the file accent be replaced with a sconce light. The Commission also suggested that the accent tiles used across the front elevation be replaced with ;precast quatrefoil designs. The use of the quatrefoil should extend across the entire Montgomery Ward elevation, in addition to their use on the Kids Store. The proposed signage for bids More , includes yellow letters with purple trim. In addition, the "i " in Kids and the "t" in Store are figure representations of children. Also included in the overall scheme is a rainbow striped, colored awning. The Commission expressed opposition to the awning colors and sign; design used for Kids More. They stated that all the Montgomery turd specialty 'signage should be consistent with the approved sign program, with respect to the 4" shop size signage and approved colors. D. Electric Avenue r. Bond described the modifications to Electric Avenue as a' result of the previous meeting. The Commission was satisfied with the window pattern and the metal ' lattice form used within the arch. They suggested that the same metal mullion pattern be used within the stucco arch features, similar to window mullion pattern. Within the recess of the arch the darker gray/beige building color will be used. The Commission indicated to M . Bond that particular attention should be given to the available plaza area east of Electric Avenue when the adjacent shop buildings are ready for specific Design Review. Than area should include, accent paving, seating, and pedestrian features similar to other plazas on site. Mr. Bond explained that the signage proposed for Electric Avenue' is a red fetter with a teal green trim. Planning Commission Minutes - - July 6, 1989 As expressed earlier, the Commission is opposed to the mix of accent sign colors and preferred consistency{ with the sign program as approved. E. Rear Elevation Mr. Bond described the additional details that were added to the rear elevation, including the added layer of molding below the roof line,- trellis at customer pickup area, metal lattice, and espaliered plant` material within each arch form and the painted wainscot with a bullhose plaster trim. The Commission was satisfied with these changes and suggested that, in addition, the quatrefoil design be included as an accent to the rear` elevation. F. Auto Express Mr, Bond described the architectural modifications including the arcade and tower at the southeast building corner, and the addition of a porte-cochere over the auto entrance. The Commission was generally satisfied with the architecture; however„ opposed the accent colors and signage. Mr. Bond also indicated that they would heed to add an old tire storage area at the rear elevation. The storage area could be rude of ±1C" 'high `masonry walls and metal gates. The accent color scheme consists of a' black and white checkerboard the fascia along the south and east elevations at the top of the window line, the metal frame and window mullions are red, and the signage is red and black. The Commission historically has not favored the use of checkerboard patterns on building architecture and they expressed their concern about using such a pattern within Terra Vista Town Center. There was mixed reactions to the red metal frame and window mullions. Commissioner Chitiea felt that the color was too strong a shade of red; however, Commissioner Tolstoy thought that the use was appropriate. Mr. ` Bond explained that the signage of the TBA (Tire/Battery/Accessory) included "Auto Express", underlined, with "Montgomery Ward" underneath. The Commission agreed to the verbiage, but stated that the black red' design was not in conformance`with sign program color criteria. Conclusion - Montqomery .t .ard The general building design, building colors, and materials were approved by the Commission. The unresolved issues include the final design modifications Planning Commission Minutes - - duly 6, 1989 to the Entry and Promenade, and the "Image Package", including signs and accent colors. The Commission expressed great concern regarding the dolor package as proposed by Montgomery liar . They agreed that the proposed colors would significantly detract from the intent of the sign program, and opera the possibility for any and all tenants to use unlimited colors and 'designs. Adjournment The workshop adjourned a .` B A.M. duly 7, 1989. Respectfully Submitted, Brad Buller Secretary Planning Commission Minutes July 6, 1989