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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes Jul-Dec 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION I `UTES Regular Meeting December 9, 1987` Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the Pledge of allegiance. ROLL E, COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Bla esley, Suzanne Ehitiea, Bruce Emeri'd , Larry McNiel , Peter Tlsto I COMMISSIONERS: SENT. None STAFF' PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner; Chan Coleman, Senior Planner; Scott Murphy, Associ ate e_ Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Pla nner; Debra Meier Assistant Planner; s Maguire,, s u e it Engineer; iBill Silva, Deputy City Engineer; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil' Engineer, doe Stof , Associate Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, and Karen Kissack, Planning Commission Secretary. ANNOUNCEMEWS Huss Maguire, City Engineer, announced the selection of Bill Silva as the new Deputy City Engineer for the City of Rancho Cucamonga. Brad Buller, City Planner, announced a lmemorandum had been distributed to the Commissioners giving information regarding conferences for 1988. Planning Commissioners' Institute will be held March 9, 10, 11, 1988 in Anaheim and National APA in San Antonio, Texas, April 30th - May 5, 19BB. APPROVAL S Moved by Commissioner Chi ti ea, seconded by Commissioner T l sto , unanimously carried, to approve the minutes of October 14, 1987 as submitted. Planning Commission Minutes 1 - December 9, 198 Moved by Commissioner Tolstoy, seconded by Commissioner Chitiea, unanimously carried, to approve the minutes of October 28, 1987 as submitted. Moved by Commissioner Tolstoy, seconded by Commissioner Chitiea, carried, to approve the minutes of November 10, 1987 as submitted. Chairman McNiel abstained from voting as he was not present at that meeting. NEW BUSINESS A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-52 - PIC-N-SAV The -4 eve Tboent-of iware case ors ens Ong - av distribution center totaling 564,960 square feet on 90 acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea 14), located at 12434 Fourth Street - APN: 229-283-50. Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. Ms. Jane Crudden, representing Hill-Pinckert Architects, 10699 Karmen Avenue, Irvine, CA, architects for Pic-N-Sav, stated with very few exceptions, they accept the conditions of the staff report. She addressed the condition of fully developing Sixth Street including sidewalks,, street lights, and 45 feet of landscaping. She felt in was inappropriate at this time since this is a deadend road and the total development of Sixth Street will occur when Phase III is built. She furthered addressed the conditions of undergrounding the existing utilities along Fourth Street stating this is retroactively requiring Pic-N-Sav to underground and this is an Industrial Zone. Relating to the on-site lighting of the truck parking area, Ms. Crudden recommended the use of 40 foot pole heights instead of the required 25 foot poles. Mr. Mary Frankel , Director of Real Estate Development for Pic-N-Sav, 2430 E. Del Amo Blvd. , Carson, CA presented the history of Pic-N-Say. He addressed the issues as presented by Ms. Crudden and asked the Commission's reconsideration of these recommended conditions. Chairman Mc Niel closed the public hearing. Chris Wes ' an, in answer to the appearance of Sixth Street, stated there is curb and gutter which Is improved on: the Pic-N-Sav side (the south side) and ends at the western end. There aren't any landscape improvements on either side. Chairman McNiel clarified that when Pic-N-Sav built initially, it was not in the code to underground. With the increase of their facility by 44 percent, they are now required to underground. Planning Commission Minutes - 2 - December 9, 1987 Commissioner Blakesley stated he did not see any disadvantage to the 40 foot poles. Chairman cNiel stated it is very rare exception to allow for relief on undergrounding of utilities. With respect to the Sixth Street development, he further stated that when a developer comes in to develop a particular area, it is typical that full street improvements including landscaping go with the first phase. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt that Sixth Street should be developed, undergrounding should take place, and would favorably consider review of the requirements for lighting. He encouraged Pic-N- Say to request a variance so the lighting standards could be higher for their security needs. Commissioner Chitiea felt that the development of Sixth Street is totally appropriate, supports the undergrounding of the utilities. She had serious reservations and would like to receive more specific information before she could support the request for 40 foot poles. Commissioner Emerick stated he supports the, replacement of the wall with landscape, ­­ development of Sixth Street, and undergrounding of utilities. tie concurred with Commissioner Chitiea stating he would like to see an actual application so there is a concrete proposition and findings for a variance could then be evaluated. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the Industrial Specific Plan states a maximum of a 25 foot high pole or the the height of the shortest building. If the Commission feels the standard is incorrect for security 'reasons, the appropriate step would be an amendment to the Industrial Specific Plan versus a variance. Without the amendment, the applicant would need to show documentation for the need of a variance. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution as written, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, ERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried Planning Commission Minutes - 3 - December 9, 1987 HEARINGSPUBLIC B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13727 - JANSSENS - A _r4­si4e_n_tT1a1 subdivision of 12 singlear y s on acres of land in the Low Residential District dwelling<units per ,acre , located at the southwest corner of Carnelian Street et and Highland Avenue - AAN: 01 14-11. (Continued from November 10, 19 7. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated a letter had been received from the applicant requesting continuance to the January 13 1988 meeting. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Commissioner Chi ti ea roved to continue the 'item to January 13, 1988, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TCLSTCY, BLA ES EY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE; ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13359 WALT N - A cus o o su Tv s `on o acres o an in o parce s n the Very Lour Density Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre),'; located on the east side of Sapphire Street, south of Hillside Road - APN: 10 1-n91 9, 10 and. '11. (Continued from November 10, 1987. ) Related File: Variance 7 15. . ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 7-15 -' WALT 9N - A Request to re uce a n rain average o s e rora , square feet in area to 21,392 square feet in area in conjunction with a six ) lot subdivision located on the east side of Sapphire Street, south of Hillside Road - AP : 20 1 691 10 and 11. (Continued from November 10, 1987. ) Related File: " Tentative Tract 159. Chairman Mc Niel announced a letter from the applicant had been received requesting continuance to the January 13, 1988 greeting. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue this item to the January 1 , 1988 meeting, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Potion carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes - December 9, 1987 AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLS "OY, BLAKESLEY, `EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES* COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT' ND CONDITIONAL. USE PERMIT A- - NOES eve opment-ofa 8.2 acre i era a upping center consi ing of 4 retail buildings totaling 87,111 square feet in the Community Commercial District of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Hellman Avenue - APN. O - 61-5 . (Continued from November 10, 1987. ) Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff port. Commissioner Chitiea questioned i there was a detailed landscape plan and also if there were access from the neighbors yard between the six foot wall: and the retaining wall . Ms. Fong stated there is no connection from the neighbor side` to the project. The conceptual landscape plan shows a ten-foot landscape area from the project property line to the block wall and in front of the block wall is another five feet, of landscaping. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Michael Roy, 350 S. Figueroa Street, 555, Los Angeles, 'CA , Project Director for NuNest Development, presented the history of the project. r. Roy stated this was the first project under the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan and that the developer has worked conscientiously and diligently with staff to mitigate any adverse environmental impacts and concurs with the staff report. Mr. Aldo Capocci , 8249 Onyx Court, Rancho Cucamonga, representing the neighborhood committee, stated they are not against the project itself but do oppose the proposed southerly parking lot. Mr. Capocci stated the neighborhood is against the block wall adjacent to the neighborhood, the elevation of the project, the proposed drainage, and the potential garbage problems. He suggested dropping the elevation`. He also submitted photographs to the Commission showing problem garbage areas in the City. Another area of concern is the visual line into the yards and houses adjacent to the project. There is dense foliage which will create hiding places and potential safety problems for the neighbors. r. Capocci also addressed the problems of noise and graffiti on the buildings and walls which will decrease the property value of homes in his neighborhood, Mr. Capocci also submitted a site plan alternative for Commission review. `Planning Commission Minutes -5- December D, 1987 a' Ms. Marlo Teran, 848 Onyx Court, Rancho Cucamonga, resident, stated she s not opposed to the shopping center either, but is concerned with the problems of the parking lot Mr. Capocci addressed* Ms. `reran questioned the grading level of the proposed shopping canter` and felt the solution should be to table this project until the flooding problem on Hellman is rectified. Mr. Mitch Cohen, 8220 Onyx Court, Rancho Cucamonga, resident, stated ;he wants the project but he felt that the neighborhood would be greatly affected by the potential crime. Mr. Cohen stated there is too few sheriffs to properly patrol this center. s. Sue Teran,; 848 Onyx Court, Rancho Cucamonga, resident, stated she is opposed to the shopping center because of the intended elevation which would visually overpower the entire neighborhood. She suggested the denial' or the postponement of the project. r. Larry Vito, 8226 Kirkwood, Rancho Cucamonga, resident, stated he felt some of the grades could be lowered, perhaps one to two feet and still allow drainage and make it more aesthetically` pleasing to the neighborhood. r. Frederick Chan, President of Nuwest, stated they have made an honest attempt to recognize theresidents' concerns. The developer has tried to analyze and mitigate the residents' comments and reach a reasonable compromise. They have met with the traffic control' department, the sheriff's `department and have addressed all issues concerned. Mr. Chan stated the residents understood the concerns of security and this would be mitigated by appropriate landscaping. It is the developer's intent to work closely with the City and satisfy the residents' concerns adequately. Commissioner Chitiea questioned Mr.. Chan regarding the grade differential below Foothill r. Chan responded it was a an eight foot drop from Foothill to the finished floor on the south side of the project. Commissioner Chitied also questioned Mr. Chan regarding security. r. Chan. responded there would be security during the evenings hours determined by the security co►npany. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, stated there is a condition of approval that security be scheduled daily but specific hours had not been stated, Chairman McNiel stated that the Sheriff's Department would also routinely patrol the site, specifically through the back of the site. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes - - December g, 198 Commissioner Chitiea questioned Engineering if the pad was dropped one or two feet would it affect the drainage in any way. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated if it was dropped lower, it would create a sump condition affecting the neighborhood. Commissioner Chi ti ea questioned the time frame for additional flood control facilities to be put in. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the upper reach of Hellman from the Southern iPacific railroad north is scheduled for design and construction this year. The lower reach the major program, is budgeted this year for initiation of design and phasing. They ; anticipate multi-year funding program to get this project through, two to three years is fairly optimistic. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that there has been dramatic elimination of the debris on Hellman which has greatly reduced the flooding. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned if the Hellman problem was further corrected, would the elevation of this project be any different than it is now. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that it is being controlled at two feet above the curb line on Hellman because of the flow that well exceeds the top of the curb. When through, the design criteria on Hellman will be top of the curb and all will have to be done is to maintain the basic structures above top of the curb which will be affected one to one and a half feet. Commissioner Blakesley stated there is usually conflict when there is a transition between two different land uses ,and felt the developer has implemented some sensible alternate uses, especially the buffer zone. The developer has agreed to security services, landscape maintenance services,' and is open for other reasonable alternatives. Comm!s si oner Blakesley commend the residents' concerns and appreciated their comments. Commissioner Emerick stated that the mitigation shows the developer has met the residents' concerns with good faith. Commissioner Emerick stated the developer has agreed to put in more lighting. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred there is a problem when there is a transition between two different land uses. He felt the best solution has been reached and is quite satisfied; with the south elevation. Commissioner Chi ties stated that regular security patrolling would have more impact for the solution of crime. i i Planning Commission Minutes - - December g, 1987 i Chairman McNiel felt the grade differential had been mitigated as much as passible. Commissioner Chitiea suggested using the term "nightly" versus "daily" regarding the security patrol Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the City would interpret "daily" as meaning 4-hour patrol Commissioner Erneridk moved to approve the resolution as modified, Connissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIEA, NLAKESLEY, MCNIEL, TOLST Y NOES, COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NON --carried S:SC P.M. - Commission Recessed 9:08 P.M. - Commissioner Reconvened F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13748 - AHMANSON HOMES ^esa en is su av sTon and'---design review o ang e a y lots on 65 acres of land in the Low-Medium Residential District 4- 8 dwelling units per acre) , located at the northwest coiner of Highland Avenue and Milliken Avenue - APN; A portion of 201-271- 55. Associated with he project is a Tree Removal ;Permit requesting the removal of 19 mature trees. (Continued from November 25, 1gd7. G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 1097 - AHMANSON - su visann o . acres 6f Ti5d` into parcels ,n the ow-Medium Residential District (4-8 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Milliken Avenue and Banyan Suet - AP : 01- 1- 5 (Continued from November 25, 1987. ) Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel questioned the size of the out Parcel that is flood control on the southwest cornea Planning Commission Minutes December r 198 7 Scott Murphy responded approximately one-half to one acre. The developer has been working with the flood control district to acquire it. Commissioner Chitiea questioned the location of the community trail in relationship to this property. Scott Murphy Mated the community trail will be located on the south side of Banyan constructed as; part'of this project. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned about the proposed freeway. Scott Murphy stated it would be elevated above grade coming over the Deer Creek Channel , 20 feet above Milliken. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. ;Craig Page, representing Ahmanson Development, addressed the issue regarding the triangular` pieces, stating this 1/3 acre parcel is under negotiation for purchase from the Flood Control District. in response to the freeway, Mr. Page stated the freeway will be at grade; on the southwesterly portion of the project, it will be depressed below the easterly lots,; close to the grade provided on the south property line. Regarding the fault issue, there is no indication that it exists on this project. A geological report was submitted to staff regarding this issue Discussion was heard on the acquisition of the triangular piece of surplus property. Chairman ' cNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt that since Banyan Street is only a half street, water from the north should be adequately removed before getting to Banyan. Russ Maguire, City ;Engineer, Mated this was the reason this project had been postponed'. The developer had to be able to resolve and obtain in writing from the Flood Control District the necessary reviews and approval to go on the Flood Control District land and provide the necessary drainage collection to protect Banyan in this project. Commissioner Tblstoy questioned the wall that mitigates the sound on the south side of the project. Because there are going to be a number of projects along the proposed freeway and because there will be requirements for a number of the projects to have a fifteen foot wall , he would like' to see the Commission require the design of the sound Planning Commission Minutes -9- December D, 1987 attenuating wall so there will not be a number of projects with mi smatched wall s. He would like to see Design Review take this under special advisement. Chairman McNiel questioned if the City is following a Cal Trans dictate with respect to the type of walls used., Brad Buller, City Planner, stated no, there is no design pot i cy on the walls at this time. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was time to design the wall and in the language of the conditions of approval , this; project should follow those design features that the Commission feels necessary. Whenever there is a fifteen- foot wall , there is an unsl i htl,y potential and the Commission would like to make it as aesthetic as possible since there will be a number of walls. Commissioner Tlstoy further stated that the wall would not be enough to brim the noise level down. He questioned how to address the design features of the house to mitigate the rest of the sound. Scott Murphy stated that as part of the conditions of approval , there is a requirement for a final accoustical' study to address the specific construction design of the house. If there are changes in the freeway design, this will be taken into consideration and the developer will have to provide those construction techniques to bring the interior noise levels down below 45 CNEL and however far up north that has to be them that is what will be done. It would be appropriate to add a condition stating that the design; of the sound wall on the south tract boundary be brought back to [Design Reviews prior to the issuance of building permits Commissioner Tol stoy stated that it should not only be brought-back to Design Review but also to the full Commission. Commissioner Chitiea stated she would like to see some type of terracing of the backyard or some type of planter against the wall to,break up the space. She stated there should be a condition that all rear and side elevations expose to Banyan or public view be upgraded. Commissioner Emerick stated there should be uniform treatment of the landscaping along the freeway. Scott Murphy, in response to Commissioner Eerick's concern, stated it was brought up in Design Review about the landscaping of the slopes along the freeway right-of-way. It was the direction of Design Review that they be planted for erosion control because in the future when the freeway is developed, clot of;that landscaping will disappear. When the Planning Commission Minutes -10- December g, 1987 freeway gets built, it will be more of an at-grade appearance. If the Commission desires something more on the landscaping issue, there would have to be a modification of the condition. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated there is a number of hund d feet of natural terrain land before 'getting to the sloe which has the basic effect of blending the slope in. The owner of the land has the problem that Cal Trans is nonreceptive to finding City easements, irrigation lines, trees encumbering the land they are supposed to purchase. What is placed on the land will cause problems for the developer selling the land to the state. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve Items E and G as modified, Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote', AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOL TOY, CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MC IEL DES'. COMMISSIONERS: NINE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Chairman McNiel directed staff to proceed with some investigation with respect to the consistency of the wall ; along the proposed freeway in a timely manner to incorporate with this project. --carried H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 87 C4 - TAC request--to amen a ahem an an se ap rm Low-,e 1u Residential (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to High Residential ( 4® O dwelling units per acre) for 5.05 acres of land, located on the south side of Rase Line Road, west of Archibald - APN 08-031-18, 19. (Continued from November 25, 1987. ) ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-05 TAC regues b- 6a thi 6eve o en s ric s Map rom ow- e i dm (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to High Residential ( 4-;30 dwelling units per acre) attached with the Senior Housing Overlay District (SHOD) to the base district for 5.05 acres of land, located on the south side of Rase Line Road, west of Archibald Avenue - ARN 08- 31-18, 19. (Continued from November 5, 1987. ) I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ;GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 7-04H - TAC - regues o amen the an se emen o e General ` an from Low-Medium Residential (4-8 dwelling units per Planning Commission Minutes _11- December 9, 1987 I acre) to Office for 1.59 acres of land, located on the west side of Archibald Avenue, south of Base Line Road - APN: 208-031-17, 54, 55, 56 and 57. (Continued from November 27, 1987.) ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT'AMENDMENT 87-0 - TAU DEVELOPMENT : reques amen eve en i rigs W5 rum ow ium Residential (4-8 dwelling units Per acre) to Office Professional for 1.59 acres of land, located on the west side ;of Archibald Avenue, south of Base Line Road - APN: 208-031-17, 54, 55, 55 and 57. (Continued from November 25, 1987 . ) J. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 87-02 TAC DEVELOPMENT - A Development greemen weer the-C—ity-o-f-RiKc-lid camonga and TAC Development Corporation for the purpose of providing a Senior Housing Project per the requirements of the Senior Housing Overlay District (Section 17.20.D4D of the Development Code, Ordinance 211) for 170 apartment units to be located on the south side of Base Line Road, west of Archibald Avenue - APN: 208-031-18 19. (Continued from November 25, 1987® ) Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing Commissioner Chidea movedto continue to the January 13, 1988 meeting Items H. I, and J by request of the applicant. : Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: C ITIEA, TDLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, E ERICK, MCNIEL NOS COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP; 1D7B - WELLS FARGO BANK - s on o acres' o an 1n o 2 parde s :n e er ow '(2 dwelling units per acre) Development District, located at the northwest corner of Archibald Avenue and Hillside Road ' - APN: 151-561-03. Commissioner Tolstoy requested to be excused from this item because of a possible conflict of interest: Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes -12- December g, 1987 " Mr. Frank Giommulva, 800 North Haven Avenue, Suite 450, Ontario, Manager for Wells Fargo Bank handling this piece of property held under the Tolstoy Construct, stated clarification of the improvements along the Community Trail . arrye Hanson stated all improvements are required to be completed before recordation of a parcel map unless bonded for. The City project could substitute for the bonding in this case. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the trail improvements ;are going i on parcel 1 at the same time as the street improvements go in. The City is putting the strut improvements in and does not include the trail . Commissioner Chitiea stated it was the intention of the Trails Committee to make this a requirement. Russ Maguire stated this is a cobtractural agreement between the City Council and the landowner. This is a binding contract budgeted and a defined project. At this time, it would take City Council action and agreement of the property owner to amend. The City has agreed within the "interpretation of the codtractural agreements and the project that the City can extend the drainage and the grading so that Hillside Street would include the grading and drainage necessary for the Community trail across both parcels 1 and 2. When development occurs on Parcel 2, the developer; will be obligated to complete all improvements across both frontages of Parcel' 1 and 2. The City will take on the obligation of the grading on Hillside' but not the obligation of building the actual physical trail;, - Chairman McNiel closed the public bearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved ; to ; approve the project as modified, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKCSLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES. CC ISSICNERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: TCLSTCY --carried L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT` AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT d -41 - ALT e eve en o a Sc oodistrict facility consiM6J7 of a 10,5000 square foot administration building, a 18,170 square foot warehouse building, and a 15,600 square foot transportation/maintenance building on 5.25 ages of land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , Planning Commission Minutes -1 - December g, 1987; located on the east side of Beryl Street, south of 19th street - APN. 0 -041-01 and 42. Associated with the development is a Tree Removal Permit requesting the removal of four (4) mature trees. Scott Murphy, Associate planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Hlakesley questioned the height of the warehouse. Mr. Murphy responded 18 feet in height., Commissioner Tolstoy requested clarification of the distance from the south boundary line of the school property to the proposed development. property to the proposed development. r. Murphy responded 330 feet, Commissioner Tgalstoy asked whether staff has seen a proposal for the vacant property south of the proposed site Mr. Murphy stated no, but indicated that it is currently General Planned and zoned Residential , therefore he would anticipate that it would be developed: as residential single family. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Jim Marquez, 134 Parkview ,Avenue, Manhattan Beach, representing the Alta,` Loma School District, stated they agree and concur with the staff report. Mr. Marquez presented the background of the school district and the purchase of this propertyF Commissioner Chitiea questioned the size of the undeveloped parcel below the proposed site r. Marquez responded 5.2 acres, the same size of the proposed project. Commissioner hlakesley questioned what size of parcel' would the- school district look for in developing an elementary school . r. Marquez responded anywhere from five to seven acres. Ms . Rose Cay leer 9090 Hamilton, Rancho Cucamonga, representing the majority of the residents, namely on Hamilto g Zircon, and Opal neighboring the proposed site, stated her concerns regarding the traffic, noise, the decrease; of property value, parking, and having a metal building in a residential neighborhood. Ms. Cayler stated the land 'should be developed as residential . Commissioner Emerick questioned Ms, Cayler "how she felt if this site were to be developed as an elementary school . s. Cayler stated she felt the neighbors would like to see this developed as residential , Planning Commission Minutes -14- December 9, 198 r. Mark Vogelsang, 9071 Hamilton, Rancho Cucamonga, addressed the issues of traffic congestion, noise, and feels this could attract vandalism, he felt a school would be more suitable in the; area rather than the <proposed warehouse and workshops. Mr. Vogelsang would prefer to see the area remain residential . Mr. Richard Feurstein, 9582 Golden, Alta Loma, stated that warehouses, maintenance operations, and equipment yards do not belong in a residential neighborhood. he felt that the Planning Commission would not approve this unattractive of a building even in an industrial development. He agreed with the traffic congestion and the aesthetics of the proposed project Pastor Mike Johnson, En Agape Christian Fellowship Church, agreed with the concerns of the traffic congestion` and felt that a metal building should not be allowed in;a residential area Mr. Jim Marquez, representing the Alta Coma School District, addressed the residents' concerns and expressed how they felt they have mitigated the traffic, security, vandalism, and street width concerns. He fel t these issues and been adequately addressed and resolved. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Chairman WOO stated this proposal is significantly counter to what the Planning Commission is trying to accomplish from a land use and design standpoint. Chairman McNiel continued stating though he understands the school district's position, ;to allow this project in a residential project makes no sense at all . Commissioner Chitiea agreed with Chairman MMciel on the land use issue, the circulation, and aesthetic problems, The Planning Commission would not consider this type of project anywhere else in the City, except perhaps in the heavy industrial area. Commissioner Chitiea: stated that 19th rStreet is already heavily impacted and' does not find the proposed solution workable. The warehouse, aesthetically, is a severe problem, The architecture alone is another whole issue and :this project has significant problems. Commissioner Chitiea stated a land swap or exchange might; be pursued in order for the school district to relocate to an area in the City that would be more appropriate to in meeting both the needs of the School District and the City. Commissioner Bl'akesley agreed with the concerns of the citizens and with the Commissioners and addressed other issues', regarding lighting and the use and storage of various hazardous waste materials that will occur at the warehouse and maintenance shops. Commissioner Dlakesly stated he could not find that the project contributed anything positive to the neighborhood or the City. y Planning Commission Minutes -1 - December 9, 1987 Commissioner Tol stoy concurred with the previous comments of the other Commissioners stating the issue is primarily land use and can't really e solved solely through design and suggested the district look at other areas within the City to relocate. Commissioner Emerick stated in Design Review they only looked at design and not land use. The Design' Review Committee felt the heavy landscaping proposal to camouflage the warehouse building is not the ideal solution but the only one the School District could propose with the state limits on budget; Commissioner Emerik' agreed with he neighbors' concerns and other Commissioners' comments. Commissioner Chitiea moved to direct staff to prepare a resolution of denial . Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carded by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTQY, BLA ESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES®: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Brad Buller, City Planner, stated this item would be continued to the January 1 , 19 eein to be brought back as a Consent Calendar item with a Resolution of Denial . Commissioner Tol stoy stated he did not feel the bootleg buildings were appropriate in this residential area and would like to see them removed. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the Commission could direct staff to proceed to work through Code Enforcement to remove the buildings. The Commission directed staff to proceed with Code Enforcement. M. ENVIRONMENTALASSESSMENT` AND VARIANCE 7-1 - RCN - A request to increase t a e,g U an apartmeR 5u ng ro one 'story to two stories within 100 feet of adjoining single family residences for proposed 20 unit apartment project on 1.16 acres of land in the Medium-High Residential District ( 14-24 dwelling units per; acre) , located at the terminuses of Sierra Madre Avenue and Main Street AP : - 51- 2. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearings Mr. Peter' Bon, applicant, 1610 West Holt, Pomona, requested a variance to move the building away from the drainage. The whole piece of land is all easement and dedicated to the City. Mr. Bon presented background on the project, Planning Commission Minutes -1 - December g, 1987 . Peter Ron, Jr. , 1I0 West Holt, Pomona, discussed the hydrology problems resulting from the water flow from Sierra Madre. They have tried to work out a site plan to greet with the City and feels this is the best possible solution for this property.. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated she appreciated the difficulty with this particular piece of property but stated there is a problem with allowing two-story units adjacent to single-family homes because of the impacts on the homes. She did not see that this project would work. Commissioner B akesley stated this has impact on only one single-family dwelling and there is always a problem with a transition from one zoning to another. Commissioner Emerick stated he did not believe the findings were: strong enough to support a variance. The applicant could probably massage the property if there were maybe a tS unit apartment proposed project. i Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt the developers was trying to develop too many units and with the many constraints on the project, he couldn't support the variance. He felt this was a zoning problem. Commissioner Emerick moved to direct staff to prepare a resolution of denial , Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MC IEL' NOES': COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 12820 - .T.K. ,INC. re—Men is sUbdT1V-1s16iiof 16 single family lot-s-on-4.17acres o land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre), located at the southeast corner' of Jasper Street and Highland Avenue - APN: „ 01- 41-1C. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Carl Kobbins, C.T.K. , Inc. ' representative, stated they are in agreement with the 'staff report. He .stated his interest in the sound attenuating wall along the freeway and the Commission's co ens on a 'previous project in the meeting. Planning Commission Minutes -17- December g, 1987 ICI Chairman M Niei closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated staff should be directed to ensure consistency with what the Commission determines as consistency regarding the wall along the entire corridor. Scott Murphy stated staff could condition consistency of the wall prior to the issuance of building permits. Commission Chitiea moved to approve Item N as modified, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS.- CHITIEA, TDL TOY, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MC IEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried P. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ;CUSTOM LOT TRACT 1. THE WILLIAM IYOR - re p e ' is subdivision o sing a am1 y s on acres of land in the Low-Medium (4 dwelling units per acre) District;, located north of Base Line between Milliken and Rochester within the Victoria Planned Community - APN: 081- . Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r, Stephen Ford, representing The William Lyon Company,< stated the developer is in agreement with the staff report. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing® Commissioner Tol stoy stated this is the first time that the 66KV pokes on a `project will have to be moved. He suggested to the Commission that white or bleached poles be considered. Poles are unsightly. He feels that if the poles have to be moved, they should be replaced with bleached or white poles which will help the residential neighborhood. Commissioner Chitiea felt if there is another, option, such as bleached or white poles, she would consider ;the possibility of replacing the 6 KV as recommended by Commissioner Toltoy. Commissioner Tol stvy moved to approve the resolution as modified, Commissioner Chitiea second the motion, Motion carried by the following :vote Planning Commission Minutes - - December 9, 1987 I' AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, E ERICk, M NIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried 11:30 P.M. - Commission Recessed 11:40 P.M. - Commission Reconvened 0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1330 - LEWIS HOMES - res en i� su � �sl on and �gn rev ew sing family lots on 13.98 acres of land 'i n the Terra Vista Planned Community designated "L ", located at the southwest corner of Terra.. Vista Parkway and Mountain View Drive - APN: 227-151-13 and 14. Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing, Mr. John Melcher, representing Levis Homes, stated they have read and agree with the staff report. They would like to bring back their third roof color to Design Reviews for approval . Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the resolution as modified in the staff report. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the 'following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS.- TOLSTOY, `BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried Q. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-39 - WESTERN PR e eve o en o n in egra a cd ring s opping center-76o—nsisting of four major retail buildings totaling 319,000 square feet, adjoining mall shops totaling 137,395 square feet, nine satellite retail buildings totaling 43,550 square feet, two satellite office building totaling 27,325 square feet, four Planning Commission Minutes -19- December 9, 198 s restaurant pads, and a 30,000 square foot theater. Conceptual approval for a design center consisting of ten building totaling 195,660 square feet. All on 71 acres of land in the Community Commercial Di strict of the Terra Vista Planned Community located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Foothill Boulevard. 1077 4 1-CAS, 06,13. R. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY - - - A reiiRit o c Inge thi Tifia use es gna ions rom ice Park (OP) and Commercial (C) to Community Commercial (C ) involving a 71 acre parcel within the Terra Vista Planned Community, located on the north aide of Foothill Boulevard between Raven Avenue and.. Spruce Avenue - APN: 1077-41-5,6, 1 . Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. r. John Melcher, representing Western Properties, introduced several representatives from the project r. Todd Stoutenborough Architect Pacifica- representative;, introduced other representatives from their firm to answer Commissioners' questions. Mr. Stbutenbourough presented a pictorial presentation of the proposed project and submitted a model of the proposed Design Center. Mr. Stoddenburg addressed the issues of shelters for bus service, the roof tile, the stonework throughout the project, and the use of hanging plants. Discussion was heard on the applicant" alternatives. ,. r. John Melcher commented on the alternate lighting schemes for the proposed project. The developer felt the best approach would be perhaps an amendment to the ordinance which will permit a variance on projects over 20 acres, There is no energy saving in using the high mast lighting Chairman Mc Niel clarified that the Commission was reviewing the site plan, the site plan furniture, Foothill landscaping, the financial court, the lighting and the bus service. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing Commissioner Chitiea stated there have been some creative solutions achieved to the problems that have arisen throughout the project. Commissioner Emerick stated he liked the architectural scheme of the Center. Chairman McNiel questioned the parking requirements for the theater. Planning Commission Minutes - - December g, 1987 Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to see the addition of drinking fountains throughout the center. Commissioner Chitiea stated regarding the site furniture, the benches do not look inviting. She felt them could be some more research done on the bench Commissioner Tolstoy concurred and suggested the design of the bench go 1 back to Design Review Committee. Commissioner Chitiea addressed the issued of lighting and phasing. She stated the City was told this project would not be a phase project but going to go in all at once. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the generation of this project was centered around Target coming in. During the Design review workshops, Western properties made a commitment that the project would' be built at one time A specific concern was that Target not be the only major tenant Commissioner Taal stoy stated he would not l i ke to see just a 'Target store and wait two ,wars for something else to occur. Commissioner Chitiea stated there should be some protection to ensure this does not occur and that the phasing plan should come back through the Planning Commission for approval . Brad Buller, City planner, in response to the lighting issue, stated the condition is properly worded and can be handled. The only problem is that the City would not issue any permits until the problem is resolved. The standard for height of fixtures is for parking lot fixtures. If they want to do accent fixtures for promenades and arcades, they could exceed the limits. Commissioner Tdlstoy stated that since this center is so unique, it may well have a different lighting situation. Commissioner Tdlstay suggested Design Review also revive the spedf roof the and pedestrian furniture. Brad Buller, City planner, stated regarding the roof the that it shall be substantially the same as the material sample submitted and installed in a randomly stacked manner. Chairman McNiel stated regarding bus service, stations should go in at the time that bus service is available. Planning Commission Minutes - - December g, 1987 Commissioner Tol stay stated that location and design of the bus service stations need to be approved now. r. John Melcner stated that north-south service on Haven Avenue now occurs, but there are no uses our there for east-west service yet. Commissioner Tol sto gy stated that though Design Review has gone over the major concepts, it has not reviewed it in detail. When the building is to be built, the plans should come back to Design Review and feels this is a legitimate reason since users may request something different than that proposed now, Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the Commission could make conceptual approval now and defer specific- design issues if they are not in substantial compliance with the conceptual plans to Design Review or to the full Commission. If the Commission .still feels they need 'to more closely review the plans submitted before granting approval', the design issue should be referred to the Design Review Committee. r. John Melcher concurred with going back through Design Review Committee for final review. Commissioner Chi tea stated she felt the Commission did not foresee any changes but would like the opportunity to be able to fine tune the detailed issues. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the project as amended, Commissioner Chi ti oa seconded the motion. Motion carded by the following vote YES. COMMISSIONERS: TQLSTOY, CHITIE , BLAKESLEY, E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried The Commission commended Debra Meier on her work regarding this project. DIRECTOR'S REPORTS S. SUBLEASES IN THE INDUSTRIAL ,AREA/USE DETERMINATION - THE AU NO I GROUP Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, ;;presented the staff report. Planning Commission Minutes - - December g, 198 Commissioner Bl akesl ey stated he concurs with the staff in their direction of the Conditional Use Permit which when additional conditional uses would require a modification to the existing CUP and public hearing. Commissioner Emerick questioned if the Conditional Use Permit is with the land or with the applicant. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated the Conditional Use Permit goes with the land. Commissioner Chi ti ea stated that the Conditional Use Permit should have to came back for review to the Commission determining hours and other changes by the users, in order to hear public' comments. ` Brad Buller, City Planner, stated he hears that the Commission feels that all proposed uses be presented and discussed when the application for the initial Conditional Use Permit occurs. The Commission agreed. COMMISSION allSIliESS There was no Commission Business at this time. PUBLIC CONWXTS' There' were no Public Comments at this time. ADJOURNENT Motion* Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn' to January 13, 1988 P at 7:00 .m. 1:35 A.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned. Respectfully Sub it i Brad Buller a Deputy Secretary Planning Commission Minutes - - December 9, 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 25, 1987 Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 4:00 p.m. The, meeting was held at -Lions Park Community Center, 911 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance, ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emerick (arrived at 4:30 p.m. ), Larry McNi el COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Peter Tel stogy+ STAFF PRESENT:', Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner: Ban Coleman, Senior Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Debra Meier, Associate Planner; Nand Fong, Associate Planner; Greg Gage, Assistant Planner; Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner, Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Barrye Hanson, :Senior Civil Engineer; Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, and Karen Kissak, Planning Commission Secretary. ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the December B, 1987 Planning Commission meeting would-be at the regularly scheduled time of 7:001 p.m. Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the agenda for this meeting was set up to hear `New Business and Director's Reports first before the Public Hearings, This would allows more people who wanted to address a particular issue the opportunity to attend the meeting. CALENDARCONSENT A. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 -21 - ALTA LOMA segues o convey an exis Ong * square oo srng e amily residence an office for the Alta Loma Christian Church on .25 acres of land in the lows Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre), located on the west side of Sapphire, across from Orange APN 1 62-B 2-22 Planning Commission Meeting November 25, 1`987 B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87- 1 - SHIMAJI - eve opmen o ase cans ruc ro o an approve as er an on a 1.28 acre site. Phase Ii consisting of an 11,000 square foot manufacturing building in the General Industrial District (Subarea 8) , located at 8677 Utica Avenue - APN: 209-142- 4. C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT- REVIEW 7- LIB. CONSTRUCT - A proposal eve. op a mu I t-1 enan i n us ri a l warehouse facility on 4.5 acres of land in the General Industrial District, Subarea 5, located on the west side of Lucas Ranch Road, north of Sth `Street - APN 210-08-01. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the Consent Calendar, Commissioner Rlakesley seconded the motions Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, BLA ESLEY, MCNIEL, NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLS O , EMERICK -carried NEW BUSINESS 0. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION, PRIVATE OPEN SPACE CREDIT FOR DEVEMPRER7 REVIEW - - on inue rom ove er , Dave Leonard, Parks Project Coordinator, presented the staff report. The applicant was not present Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested this item he moved to the end of New 'Business. E. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW I7-4 - LINPRO `- The development of a 43.85 acre industrial master pan cdnsf ting of a mixed use of multi-tenants, manufacturing, and research and development projects within a 0 block area of a previously ` approved master plan, and Phase I development consisting of S S ul ti-tenent buildings totaling 80,200 square feet in Block 1, 8 manufacturing buildings totaling 94,900 square feet in Block 2, and 3 research and development buildings totaling 61,816 square feet in Block 3, in the Industrial Park District,: Subarea 1 , located at the northwest corner of 4th Street and Archibald Avenue - APN 210-0 -0 , 11, 1 , 26, 32, and 33. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and reviewed several granges in the staff port. M . Fong stated that on page E-4 , under Planning Divisions Master Plan, Item 3, after "Archibald Avenue Planning Commission Meeting - 2 November 25, 1987 i and 4th Street. . ." add prior to any issuance of permits. On page E-47, under Black Two, ( ) strike "same material as" and put in "decorative material compatible to the building material " and �"subject to City planner review and approval" , on page E48, under Architecture For Phase I Devel o ent,= item (1) strike "tinted." and put i n raps ucen pane . Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mike Russell , representative for Linpro, stated they are in acceptance of the staff report and the conditions He also acknowledged that his experience of the Design Review process was strictly positive especially the professional input of both the staff and the Commission. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution with the three modifications, Commissioner Bl ake'sl ey seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote; AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: CO IS ICNERS. NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTDY,; EMERICK ®-carried F. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 7- f D LPIT - A development of a 3,333 fast food r ve- r urger 1ng res urant within an approved shopping center, in the Neighborhood Commercial District of th Terra Vista Planned Community, located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Base Line Road - APN t1 -801- . Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea questioned the condition on page -lg regarding the quadrefoil and suggested changing the wording. Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, Mated that Condition (S) shoed read "The quad foil shall be added to the west elevation of the tower. If a sign is desired on the tower, the Burger King logo could be placed within it."" Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Robert Delpit, representing the franchise for the Burger King Corporation, agreed with conditions of the staff report.. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Planning Commission Meeting - 3 November 25, 1987 Commissioner Rl ael ey felt ; the project was an attractive one and supports its approval . Commission Chitiea concurred that this project is one well designed. Commissioner Chi tiea moved approval of the resolution, Commissioner Sla esley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote- AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY MC IEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, ;TCLSTCY -carried G. PLAN CHECK 87-7801 CI'AS - The appeal of the Planning Commission poly requiring tile roe material on new construction, located at 10378 25th Street APN 209-122-20. Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. The appellant was not present. Brad Buller, City Planner, recommended that Item be heard at the end of New Business to allow for the presence of the appellant. H. APPEAL OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -2 - CALIFORNIA FINISHED METALS - e appea o on ions Iof Approvilrequ rib a un ergreun ing of utilities along 7th Street and Center Avenue for the development of a warehouse addition in the General Industrial District (Subarea S) located on the southwest corner of Center Avenue and 7th Street APN 209-262-13. Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. i Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. 'I r. Gary Mitchell , representing California Finished Metals, 9330 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, reviewed the reasons for their request for exemption of the requirement of the undergrounding of utilities. Mr. Mitchell referenced that this was an expansion to an existing building, the economic costs, and also the surrounding land uses. r. G. Hemonower, General Manager of California Finished Metals, stated he was not against undergrounding utilities, but feels `discrimination in the requirement for undergrounding; in this project. Undergroun ing the utilities would double the cost of the project. Planning Commission eetin - 4 - November 2 , 197 Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea addressed the aesthetic concerns on the truck loading area and expressed her concern abet dropping the requirement for the undergrounding of utilities in this case. Commissioner Biakesiey felt that the undergrounding costs seem to be out of proportion with the nature of the modification to the building. Commissioner Emerick expressed the compromising position of undergrounding on Seventh Street but not on Center Street would seem appropriate. Chairman McNiel stated that in Design Review one of the problems was this was a metal addition and there is a policy in the City regarding metal buildings. Since this was an upgrade to the building, this metal building was accepted. With respect to undergrounding, a compromise might be made. Chairman McNiel 'questioned Engineering if there was development on Center Street.. Joe Stofa Associate Civil Engineer, that approximately 3/4 is developed on the west side. Commissioner Chitiea moved deleting Condition I , the requirement of undegrounding utilities on Center Avenue, Commissioner Bl'akesliey seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: AYES': COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY carried D. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION., PRIVATE OPEN SPACE CREDIT FOR o 7 nue rom ovem er 10, Staff report had been presented. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. Mr. Don King, Planning Consultant for Land Benson Interests, stated the reasons for the request and feels they have met the minimum requirements. Commissioner Bl akesl ey felt the project and the landscaping was done attractively. However, he felt that the walkways and the recreation rooms are quite small and does not support the proposal of the applicant. Planning Commission Meeting - 5 - November 25, 1987 Commissioner Chitiea agreed with Commissioner Blakesley. The open space provided is not of the size and layout for which credit should be given. Commissioner Chitiea felt the applicant's request does not meet the minimum requirements. Commissioer Emerick questioned if the units were rentals or condominiums. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing Mr. Don King stated these are condominiums for rent with the intent to sell . Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Chairman McNiel stated he concurred with the rest of the Commission regarding the declination of the applicant's request. Commissioner Chitiea moved to deny the request for consideration, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA EME ICK LAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOL TOY * --carried C. PLAN CHECK 87-8701 MACIA - The appeal of the Planning Commission po icy r qui ri ng a ro material on new construction, located at 10738 25th Street - APN 09-1 - Ca Staff report had been presented previously in the meeting. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Aaron Macias, appellant, stated the reasons he was appealing the policy was partially due to economic hardship. His primary concern was using materials consistent in appearance and quad i ty with the existing roofs in the neighborhood. He did no feel the roof was consistent. Chairman McNiel closed the public ;,hearing. Chairman McNiel stated the Planning Commission policy decision was an effort to upgrade all of the community with better roofing materials. Commissioner Chitiea stated though appreciative of individual needs, she supports the policy decision on tie roofs. Planning Commission Meeting - 6 - November 25, 1987 Commissioner Emerick stated that City standards should be applied to all areas with no exceptions at all. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Macias stated that he felt the policy was prohibitive in certain areas of the City. Chairman Inc i ei closed the public hearing. Commissioner B1 akesl ey moved to deny the appeal Commissioner Chi ti a seconded the motion Motion carried by the following vote, AYES': COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ASSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TDLSTOY * * --carried 5:12 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 5.45 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened DIRECTOR'S REPORT If DETERMINATION OF THE CIRCULATION PATTERN FOR AVILA' AVENUE - A staff reques or annr ng o 7 s ido rec 'a on concerning the circulation patter for Avila Avenue located between Cale Del Prado and Alder Street _ APN: 08-9 1- ,11> Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. The applicant was not present. The item was moved to later in the meeting PUBLIC HEARINGS J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT - 4G ® TAC regdes o amend the Genera an Land Use Map from E&-Medium Residential ( -G dwelling units per acre) to High Residential ( 4- 0 dwelling units per acre) for 5.05 acres of land, located on the south side of lase Line Road, west of Archibald - APN: 08-0 1-18, 19. (Continued from October 28, 1987. ) Planning Commission Meeting - 7 November 25, 1987 ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-05 - TAZ reges amen Development District rom tsw-i Nm (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to High Residential ( 4- 0 dwelling units er acre) attached with the Senior Housing Overlay District HOd to the base district for 5.05 acres of land, located on the south side of Base Line Road, west of Archibald Avenue - APN 08-0 1-18,19. Continued' from tuber 28, 1987. ) Commissioner Bl akesl ey moved to continue Item d to the December 9, 1987 meeting by request of the applicant. Commissioner Chi i ea 'seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following voter AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA E ERIC , MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 87-04H TAC - reques o amen a an se amen o e enera an from Low-Medium Residential ( -8 dwelling units per acre) to Office for 1.69 acres of land, located on the west side of Archibald Avenue, south of Buse Line Road - APN 208-031-17, `54, 55, 55 and 57. (Continued from October 28, 1987. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-0 - R reques o amen a eve o en s ric s Map from ow- a ium Residential ( -8 dwelling units per acre) to Office Professional for 1.59 acres of land, located on the wrest side of Archibald Avenue, south of Base Line Road - AP - 08-0117, 54, 55, 56 and 57. (Continued from October 28, 1987. ) Commissioner Blakesley moved to continue Item to the December 9, 187 meeting by request from the applicant. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the notion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERIC , MCNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * --carried L. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 87-0 - TC DEVELOPMENT - A Development greernen a ween e y o anc o ucamonga and TAE Development Planning Commission Meeting - 8 - November 25, 1987 Corporation for the purpose of providing a Senior Housing Project per the requirements of the Senior Housing Overlay District Section 17. C.C4C of the Development Code, Ordinance 11l for 170 apartment units to be located on the south side of Base Line Road, west of Archibald Avenue ® APN: 08-031-18,19. (Continued from October 28, 1987.) Commissioner Blakesley moved to continue Item L to the December 9, 1987 meeting by request of the applicant. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICI , MCNIEiL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * -carried M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1 579 - AYOUB - A mu amp y res� eh a eve opmen compris ng o , do son .69 acres of land in the Medium Residential District 814 dwelling units per acre) , located on the east side of Hellman Avenue, 3 ' north of 19th Street - A N. 01- -1 '. (Continued from November 10, 1987. ) Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr® Peter Lynch, 1973 Ariva give, Monterey Park, representing the applicant, stated they are trying to work out the details and recommendations of the Design Review Committee. The applicant and his consultants are working under the direction of the Planning ;Commission's objectives following the October 14, 1987 Planning Commission meeting. Mr, frank Firestone Ake, 2001 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, consultant for the applicant,, addressed several of the rco endations of the Planning Commission regarding treatment of density, landscaping, the design of the building, and herdcaping Chairman McNiel recommended that the applicant go back through Design Review process with this project. Mr. Lynch stated they have approached this project in a positive way to resolve the conflicts and mitigate the Planning Commission's concerns. In response to Chairman McNiel 's question of how soon the applicant would be prepared to go through the Design Review process, Mr. Ake stated the applicant would like to go through as soon as possible. Planning Commission Meeting - 9 November 25, 1987 Commissioner Chitiea moved to refer this project to the Design Review Committee, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following Grote AYES': COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MC IEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY Commissioner Emerick moved to continue Item M to the January 13, 1988 meeting, Commissioner C i iea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: E ERICK, CHITIEA, BLA ESLEY, MCNIEL NOES:, Ctl SSI ERS NONE _ ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TDL TIDY_ --carried N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 -05 -CROSS roposa o bu—iTda 4,900square ao Banc nary ui ing and a 2,300 square foot office and classroom building-, and operate an extended day nursery and preshcool on S acres of land; in the Very Low Residential District (less than dwelling units per acre) of the Etiwanda Specific Plan, located at E3 Etiwanda Avenue - APN: 061-03. Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chi ti ea questioned why the wood shingle roofing is allowed. Debra Meier, Associate Planner, stated that in Design Review wood shingle roofing is specifically referred to in the 'Etiwanda Specific Plan. with that 'i n mind, Design Review agreed to the wood shingle roofing in this project. Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, clarified that wood shingle roofing is one of the materials encouraged by the Etiwanda Specific Plan in keeping with the rustic, rural characteristics of Etiwanda. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. William Runyan, designer, stated the applicant concurs with most of the conditions of the staff report. The applicant did question the possibility of the cul -de-sac and after polling the neighbors of this project, they would not he supportive of culde-lacing off the street at this time. The applicant proposes to construct a masonry block wall on the property line from corner to corner on the east corner,' Planning Commission Meeting - 1 - November 25,, 1987 Reverend Richard Nelson, Pastor of the Cross & Crown Lutheran Church, stated his concern about Vista Street and the cul-de--sac. They would not like to incur the expense.. r. David Long, 13201 Vista Street, Ctiwanda, stated he does not like the cul-de-sac. He would like to do what: was done on the other two struts with the LOS, Church with the block wall r. Long stated he would get petition with the support of his neighbors opposing the col- de-sac and supporting the block wall . Russell Maguire, City Engineer, clarified a modified cul-de-sac does not encroachment onto anyone's property and dues net expand the right-of- way. The 18 font radius is fit into the roadway. r. Runyan stated the applicant is only developing 1/3 of the property now but intend to maintain the remaining back portion as a groves. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated a standard block wall has a very unfinished appearance and is not as aesthetically pleasing. Ms. Chitiea stated that even a modified cul-de-sac makes the better turnarounds. Commissioner C itiea expressed concern about the wood shingle roof and unless it was fully fire sprinkled, she would not support the woad shingle but rather prefer tile. Commissioner Blakesley stated his concern about the windrow bounding on both sides of the properties and the wood shingle roofing. He would like to See some fire retardant properties used and not expose the windrow to this possibility. Commissioner glakesley concurs with Commissioner Chi ti ea regarding the ;modified cul-de-sac. Commissioner Cmerick questioned the designer's justification with the wood shingle roof and the public safety issue of using fire retardant wood shake as opposed to tile. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Runyan, designer, stated that fire retardant authentic wood shingles are available and does not see from a building and safety view that as long as they are bC rated, there shouldn't be a problem`. The fi re department is also satisfied with the proposed wood shingles as there are five on-site fire hydrants. Furthermore, the ''Ctiwanda Specific Plan does specifically -address the use of wood shingles as a roofing material . Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that a treated wood shingle would never meet the same standards as a concrete tile or clay tile, but it does, as the architect stated, meet the minimum Building Safety standards for fire protection. This would be precedent setting on any future site. Planning Commission Meeting 11 November 25, 198 . Runyan stated the building has been designed to meet the goal of Etiwanda Avenue. Commissioner Emerick stated ;the proposed project would upgrade the aesthetics of the area and since wood shake is specified in the plan, he would support the project. Commissioner Emerick concurs with the prior comments on the cul-de-sac Chairman McNiel stated he supports the modified cul-de-sac. Chairman cNiel feels the shake single,; though it is consistent with the code, it is inconsistent with the current tie roof policy of the Commission. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. Pastor, Nelson questioned whether the modified cut-de-sac eliminated the block wall . Chairman iel stated that, the curb is rounded off, there may be landscaping and partially walked. Russell Maguire, City Engineer, modified the wording in Condition 3, page N-13, under Engineering to read " . . .project site a completed with a minimal' cu - e-sac, 18 foot radius within the existing strut width, designed to the satisfaction of the CityEngineer." Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution as modified with the wood shingle changed to concrete the and the modified cul -de-sac. Chairman McNiel seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, MCNIEL, RLAKESLE , EM RICK NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: T4L TOY * --carried 0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1 742 AC- AND C TRVEME 'GROUP - s en f s i v1 si on an esI gn revi&' 6f a 17 o su v sion on 4.49 acres of land within the Low Density Residential District 2- dwelling units per acre) , located on the south side of Jarrow Route, - 550 feet west of Sierra Madre - APN: 207- 42-1 f Associated with the project is a Tree Removal Permit. Debra Meier, Associate planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner 'Slake ley questioned ;i f the utilities are in the backyard of the existing property and the ones to be built. Debra Meier stated yes. Planning Commission Meeting - 12. - November 25, 1987 Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the exemption referred to states that utilities in this circumstance are normally waived except when they are in within 500 feet of a special boulevard as such is Arrow Route. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing: r. Albert Velasque , 712 North Diamond Bar Blvd., Diamond Bar, Dwight- French and Associates, stated they find the conditions of the staff report acceptable. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Blakesley stated he agreed with the exemption of the undergrounding of the utilities in the backyard. Commissioner Chitiea stated this is an opportunity to Rio ahead and clean up the boulevard even though it is undergrounding in the backyard, Barre Hanson,' Senior Civil Engineer, stated the City is only requiring them` to pay 12 fee, not undergrounds ng since the utilities are on the other side of the easement. If underground ng is to be done, then the condition would be modified accordingly. Commissioner Imerick stated he supports undergrounding along Arrow Route, Russell Maguire, City Engineer, stated that the fees cannot be transferred and only be used for this lot. Commissioner Emerick moved to approve the resolution with the deletion of IB of the Engineering Condition, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: CQ ISSIII ERS. EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: C ISSIC` E S: NONE ABSENT: Ct ISSIONERS. TOLSTQY --carried P. ENVIRONMENTAL SESSMENT AND VICTORIA O B ITY PLAN AMENDMENT 87 - - proosa o a Victoria o uni y Plan text to require a Conditional use permit for certain community facilities as specified in the Commercial Standards and Community Facilities sections of the Victoria Community Plan. Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Planning Commission Meeting - 13November 25, 1987 Mr. Stephen Ford, representing the William Lyon Company, referenced Section 2, Paragraph 2, to make this Conditional Use Permit applicable to all applications "after" December 1, 1987 instead of "prior to" December 1, 1987. Mr. carmen Angelo, 1774 Basil Street, questioned the Conditional Use for Victoria as he was 'concerned that this was for all the areas of Rancho Cucamonga and not just Victorian ' Brad Buller, City Planner, stated there, was a question whether Terra Vista also needed to be amended. Terra Vista already requires a Conditional Use Permit for preschools. r. Angelo questioned how a public building is defined.: Chairman Mc Niel closed the public hearing. Brad Buller, City Planner, clarified a that we are not defining a public building ;but. ' a community facility and it does include a daycare facility. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITICA, BLAKESLEY EMERICK, MCNICL NOES COMMISSIONERS: NUNS ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTCY -carried ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 7- n amen n o prove e prose uses or ;reques ing modification of rail service' development standards and to authorize "medium wholesale storage and distribution"" as a permitted use in Subarea 13 bounded by the I-15 Freeway on the east, Buffalo Avenue on the crest, approximately BC' south of 8th Street on the north end approximately 1335' north of 4th Street on the south. Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved the approval of the resolution,. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motionMotion carried by the following vote i j Planning Commission Meeting - 14 - November 25,=1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES* COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried R. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 7-1Or - CITY OF RANCHO reges o the Develdpm6ht 1s c rose 15W ensity Residential (2-4 dwelling units per acre) and Medium High Density_ Residential (14-24 dwelling units per l acre) to 'Industrial Specific Plan, General Industrial , Subarea 1, for 4.31 acres of brad, located north of Nth, east of Grove Avenue and ,pest of Baker Avenue - APN: 207-541-60 and 207-251-12. S. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 7- requs amen d n us ri S5icif`fic--PT-AjFto a pan 955irea I to include 4.31 acres of land generally located east of Grove Avenue, north of Nth Street and west of Baker Avenue - APN: 07-5 1-60 and 207-251-12. Chris 'Wes an, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNlel opened the public hearing. Chairman `cNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner C itiea moved to Approve 'Item R and Item S as submitted, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS- TOLSTOY --carried T. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13725 - NORDIC - resi' en f a su i vi s,on an eslw gn re i ear o sf ng a ail -r lots on 20.2 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located at the northwest corner of Hillside Road and Sapphire Street- APN: 10161- 21-01,02,and 03. Associated with this development is Tree Removal Permit E7-81 requesting the removal of 5 nature 'trees. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Murphy modified Condition 5 on page - 0 to read " . . ..shall be required for all Co unity Equestrian Trail". Chairman McNiel questioned if the cul -de-sac was compatible with Surrey Larne and an improvement over what is now existing. Planning Commission Meeting - 15 November 25, 1987 Scott Murphy answered yes. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Henry Stanger, representing Nordic' Development, stated, they concur Frith;the conditions of the staff report. Mr. David don, 543 Sapphire Street, questioned if the homes were going to be septic tanks. Since Mr. Don and others would like to modernize, were sewer lines taken into consideration. Mr. Don also questioned if them were going to be any street improvements on the Sapphire side of the street. Russell Maguire, City Engineer, stated the City had no control regarding the sewer lines, Cucamonga County Water District handled this. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated Cucamonga County Water District have developed a master plan of seer and storm drains available for review at the water district office. Sewdring is not required on this project due to the density. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitioa moved to approve Item T, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, E ERICA,, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTCY --carried I 6. 5 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 6:35 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened U. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13748 - AH SON HOMES s� en �a su vi si on an' i g revs ew o s�ng am-ply lots on 65 ages of land in the Medium Residential ( -14 dwelling units per acre) and Mood Control Distritts,- located at the northwest corner of Highland Avenue and Milliken Avenue - APN: A portion of 01- 1-SS. Associated with he project is a Tree Removal Permit requesting the removal of 19 mature trees. V. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 109 - ANSON - su iv-sign o > . acres o an 1n o parcels in e' gum Residential Distract 8-1 dwelling units per Planning Commission Meeting - 16 - November 25, 1987 acre) , located at the southwest corner of Milliken Avenue and Banyan Street - A 071-55. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item and Item V to the December g, 1987 meeting. Commissioner Rlakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHI IEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT --carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS I. DETER INATICN OF THE CIRCULATION PATTERN FOR AVILA AVENUE - A staff reques or Plan55§ Nifiiision roc on concerning the circulation pattern for Avila Avenue located between CalIe Del Prado and Alder Street - APN. 08-91-7, 11. Joe Sofa Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public nearing. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt the City should go through with the dedication and reduce the street. Commissioner Slake ley moved to approve- as proposed by staff, Commissioner Ereri k seconded the motion. Motion carried by the fol l owing; vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, E ERICK, CH TIEA, MCNIEL NOES: _S, COMMISSIONERS: NNE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried COUNCIL REFERRALS W. MINIMUM LOT SIZE/UNIT SIZE MARKET STUDY DISCUSSION Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and presented the Commission a supplementary report from Peat Marwick Main & Company. Commissioner Chitiea felt, in regards to the comment in the report, that this was a regional issue only if the City wanted to downgrade its standards to be more in line with other cities in the region', Planning Commission Meeting - 1 - November 25, 1987 Commissioner Bl akes ey stated he supported the increase of the minimum lot size. Commissioner Emerick stated this is an issue of affordability versus profitability in the issue of minimum lot size. Commissioner Emerick stated he supported staff's direction for the increase of the minimum lot size. It was the consensus of the Commission that staff include in its report on lot size/unit size this report as a factual document and that no future staff analysis of this report is necessary. COMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission Business at this time. PUBLIC CONKUTS There were no public comments as this time. ADJOURNWUT Motion: Moved by Commissioner Blake`sley, seconded by Commissioner Chit ea, unanimously carded, to adjourn to the December 9, 1987 meeting convening at 700 pm. 6:55 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Deputy Secretary i a Planning Commission Meeting e 18;- November 25, 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES' Regular Meeting November 10, 1987 Vice Chairman Suzanne Chitiea called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 4:GD p.m, The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Rase Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Vice 'Chairman Chitiea then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emerick, Peter Tolstoy COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Larry Mc Niel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller,; City Planner; Otto Krouti l , Deputy City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; Debra Meier, Associate Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Chris Wes are, Assistant Planner; Greg Gage, Assistant Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney;; Russ Maguire City Engineer; Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer; and Karen Kissack, Planning` Commission Secretary. ANNOUNCEMEI(TS Brad Buller, City Planner, ;announced the Planning Commission League Conference is February 10th - 1 th* Also, the National American Planning Association Conference is April 30th - May 4, 1987. CONSENT CALENDAR A. TIME EXTENSION FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW S- 1 - REITER RINKE;R - THE Fi4aiit for a fine ex nsion -to an approve -acre a-s er plan of an office and, business park in the Industrial Park District and Haven Overlay District, located at the northeast corner of 4th Street and Haven Avenue -APN 10-0 1-1 through 21. B. HOE OCCUPATION PERMIT 87- S - CISNEROS - A Resolution denying a mo I ica ion o e origina eso u ion of Approval to allow instruction of childbirth classes within a single family residence to occur on Saturdays - APN 1 77-1 1-75. Planning Commission Minutes - 1 - November; 10, 1987 C. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 160 - C.T.K., INC. - resi en is su vision sing a fiiiily acres of land in the Low Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Highland Avenue and Jasper .Strut - APN 01- 1 -08. 0. RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR TRACT 10046 - EQUESTRIAN TRAIL - MORROW( Feq5iit to e e a portion 5f a oca eques rran rya, easement within a previously approved tract consisting of 27 single family lots in the Very Low Residential District (less' than 2 dwelling units per ac re), located on the north side of Hillside Read, west of Hermosa Avenue. Commissioner Tol stay moved approval of the Consent Calendar, Commissioner Blaeley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY,; CHITIEA, EMERICK NOES'., COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL _carried NEW BUSIMESS P. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION, PRIVATE OPEN SPACE CREDIT FOR Brad Buller, City Planner, stated a memorandum had been received from Dave Leonard, Park Project Coordinator, questing continuance of this item to the November 25, 1967 meeting at 4. p 00 .m Commissioner Tolstoy proved to continue Item P to the November 25, 1987 meeting, Commissioner Bl akesl ey seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, LHITIEA, -EMERICK NOES:. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried Planning Commission Minutes - November 10, 1987 `I DIRECTOR'S REPORTS Q. MINIMUM UNIT SIZE/MINIMUM LOT SIZE MARKET STUDY Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, announced the market study would be presented by Mark Smith, Peat Marwick Main & Company. Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the background leading up to the Market Study. Mr. Mark Smith, representing Peat Marwick Main and Co. , presented a market study analysis of the 'Rancho Cucamonga housing market. Mr. Smith stated the purpose of the study and presented a summary document regarding residential development guidelines. Mr. Smith further stated increasing the minimum unit size for single- and multi-family housing will also increase horsing costs and prohibit a'; portion of homebuyers and renters from obtaining needed housing. The Commission received the report and continued their review fo this item to the November 25, 1987 meeting. PUBLIC HEARINGS E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT All TENTATIVE TRACT 1579 - AYOUB - mu i_ ami y Feiiaintial develwp4fi6fft___d_dmpris!ng of unitson 69 acres of land in the Medium Residential District ( -14 dwelling units per acre, located on the east side of Hellman Avenue, 25' north of 19th Street - APN 01- 7 -1 . (Continued from October 14, 198 ). Commissioner Tdl stoy moved to continue to the November" 25, 1987 meeting at 4.DO p.m. by request from the applicant. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following_vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY,, BLAKESLEY, C ITIEA, E ERICK NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS.- MCNIEL -_carried E. ENVIRONMENTAL :ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1 727 - JANSSENS residential su` lvl'slon sing a ami y s on 373T acres o land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre), located at the southwest corner of Carnelian Street and Highland Avenue - APN 21-214-11. (Continued from October 14, 98 . ) Commissioner Emerick moved to continue to the December 9, 1987 meeting by request from the applicant. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes - 3 November 10, 1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, 'TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL --carried G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13359 - WALTON A cus dm d su T vi sT on d ac r s o an in't-o—F-parcels in the Very Lour Density Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located on the east side of Sapphire Street, south of Hillside Road - A N 1061-691-9, 10, and 11. (Continued from October 28, 1987. ) Related File: Variance 87-15,. H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT` D VARIANCE 8 -15 WALTON - A request to re ude minimum average lot size rom , square feet in area to 21,392 square feet in area in conjunction with a six (b) lot subdivision located on the east side of Sapphire Street, south; of Hillside , Road-- APN 061-691-10 and 11. (Continued from October B, 1987 ) Related ilea Tentative Tract 13359. Brad Buller, City planner, stated a letter from the applicant requesting continuance to the December g, 19B meeting had been received. _ Commissioner Emeridk moved that Item 0 and Item H be continued to the December 9, 1987 meeting, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, TOL TOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL --carried L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-IO - C-ITY-- OF- RANCHO—ZUC_ffl40NGA_ - rques o amen a eve o en s roc ap from LN Fe5sity Residential ( -4 dwelling units per acre) to General Industrial , Subarea -1, for 2.31 acres of land, located at the northwest corner of dt`h Street and Baker Avenue - Vice Chairman Chi ti ea announced that this item had been withdrawn from the agenda Brad Buller, City Planner, stated this item would be reaverti sed and the ' item ` under consideration is being expanded therefore it has been withdrawn by the City to be rescheduled to another date. Planning Commission Minutes - 4 - November 10, '1987 I. TENTATIVE TRACT 12332 - CABAND - A request to modify a condition of a5pr6va or e eve o en of Haven View Estates, a custom lot residential subdivision, of 151 lots on 66 acres of land located ` n the east side of Haven, north of the Hillside Drainage Channel . Dan 'Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Vice Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing. r. Peter Siggin , attorney for Mr. Laband, stated they concur with the findings of the staff report. Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. Commissioner Er eri k moved to delete the condition, Commissioner Tol stoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITI A NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESS ENT AND DEVELOP ENT AGREEMENT 7-01 - BCE Review U a for a oo ere a esa�n der and food park consisting of 10 buildings totaling 144,950 square feet located on the; south side of 'Foothill between e en Spruce Avenue and Elm Avenue APN 208-351-28. K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10617 - BCE su vision a res ah in o parce in thFindustrial Park Development District, Subarea 7, bounded b Foothill Boulevard, Spree Avenue, White Oak Avenue, Eucalyptus Strut and Elm Avenue - APN 08- S1- B. Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Vice Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing, r. Jack Corrigan, Vice President of BCE Development, presented a history of the project and stated. that BCE Development has continually tried to upgrade the entire park. Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. Commissioner Blakesley questioned if Design Review had reviewed this project. Planning Commission Minutes 5 - November 10, 1987 Brad Duller, City Planner, stated Design Review (Chitiea and Tolstoy) had extensively reviewed the project and Design Review's comments were incorporated into the Development Agreement. Pending the recommendation of the Planning Commission, this Development Agreement will be presented to City Council at their regular meeting on November 18, 1987 for their final determination. Commissioner Emerick questioned why the City was entering into a Development Agreement on this project Brad Buller, City Planner, stated its because the applicant i requesting uses that are not permitted in Subarea 7 of the I.S.P. Vice Chairman Chitiea questioned if the City is protected as the project unfolds and develops over time with regards to the design and architecture. Brad Duller, City 'Planner, stated the Development Agreement gives the City protection that the Development Code, if it was a permitted use or conditionally permitted use, would not give the City because it is a specific project. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned some of the retail uses asked for in the Design Center.' Mr. Tolstoy stated he felt within the City there is great deal of retail area. when the Industrial Specific Plan was discussed over the past gears, retail sales were to be kept to a certain kind below Foothill Boulevard. These retail sales were to compliment the major uses of the area which are office ' industrial and light industrial . He believed the uses requested belong in other parts of the city`. The design concept is a retail concept and should, be in that part of the city designated retail . ter. Tolstoy Further stated that a Design Center does not compliment the industrial or office areas. Commissioner Fmerick questioned what a design center means Vice Chairman Chitiea stated a design center offers a different type of services than the traditional ` neighborhood shopping center. This is the type of retailers who are appealing to businessmen. Commissioner Emeridk questioned how much control does the Commission have over the uses that go into the design center. Brad Buller, City Planner, explained the control on the uses would be the conditional use permit. All the new uses would require' a conditional use permit. Commissioner Tolstoy stated his concern over some of the terms used to denote some e of the uses, i .e. specialty, custom, designer. Mr. Tolstoy reiterated that this is not the place for this type of business, it belongs in a retail center, not in an industrial area. Planning Commission Minutes - - November 10, 1987 Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the question or definition of ""designer", "custom. , and "specialty" was discussed with the applicant and as a result the conditional use permit was required for these uses. A conditional use permit is 'a discretionary action and the Commission could approve, approve with conditions or deny. The Commission would define "custom"" ""designer" , and "specialty" through the conditional use permit process. Vice Chairman Chitiea reopened the public hearing. r. Jack Corrigan, applicant, stated a design enter is not a retail oriented neighborhood shopping center. A design center is a very effective conglomeration of businesses. The retailers do net lake to be in retail "commercial " center, but in a village-like concept.. These are professional people. Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick stated he agreed with the prior comments of Commissioner Tot stdy regarding the terms and he feels than Mr. Tol soy supports the project but has some concerns over the uses in question. Commissioner Cmerick felt the uses should be more defined or el i i nate . Mr. Crerick felt that the elimination of the custom shoe repair and designer shoe store should be considered. Commissioner B1 akesl ey Mated he felt the many of the uses in question o not relate to the industrial area community. Commissioner Tolstoy emphatically stated that Rancho Cucamonga certainly needs a des,ign center and yet it does not belong in an industrial area. There are many other' areas in the City where a design center could be located and with no problems. Commissioner glakesley agreed with Commissioner Tolstoy. her. Blakesl,ey felt the project looked nice but he, too, has a problem embracing all the proposed uses and feels they do not benefit this area. Commissioner Tolstoy stated a design center should be near residential areas. Vice Chairman Chitiea questioned Brad Buller, City" planner, how the Planning Commission's action would influence the City Council . Brad Buller, City Planner, responded that the City ;Council would be looking for the comments, for or -against, and recommendations on this project and the Development Agreements Commissioner Tolstoy stated that if the developer wishes this type of use, he should propose a zone change. Planning Commission Minutes -7- November 10, 1987 Vice Chairman Chi tiea stated she would not like to see the proposed uses spread throughout the subarea if there was a proposed zone change. She felt the uses concentrated in one specific area in one design center would be more desirable and broaden our scope of business. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated there are several actions the Commission can take. Since :this matter is going to City Council , the Commission can take action on the proposal as it is submitted followed y discussion indicating that the Commission would like more clarification on some of the uses which do not seem appropriate to the site. Commissioner Emerick stated he felt that a clearer definition of the terms used in the proposed uses is needed before making a decision. ter. Emerick felt another two weeks to work with staff establishing the criteria of what the Commission expects on this site is desirable. Brad Buller, Ci ty Planner, stated that upon the Commission's recommendation that this item be continued for two weeks and staff would work with the developer in trying to illustrate or define further the uses'. Mr. Jack Corrigan, applicant, in response to the continuance of, the two weeks, stated he would like the opportunity to proceed to City Council with the proposal as submitted. Commissioner Emerick moved that the Commission supports the Development Agreement but with the reservations expressed concerning the uses proposed on Exhibit No. 2. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion® Motion carried by the following vote AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLS CY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL --carried Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve Item K, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion-. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL --carried i I Planning Commission Minutes -8- November' IC, 1987 D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87.16 - NBWEST- e eve ent-of a 8.2 acre 5 ogre a opp ng her cons- s Tng of 4 retail buildings totaling 87,581 square feet in the Community Commercial District of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Hellman Avenue - APN 08- 61-5 . Vice Chairman i Chitiea announced that the applicant requests a continuance for Item O to the December g, 1987 meeting. r. Nave Grey, representing NuWest requested the continuance to December , 1987. Commissioner Emeridk moved to continue Item 0 to the December9, 18 meeting, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES'. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHIT'IEA, TOLSTOY NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: IEL --carried N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT'AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13697 - DALY HOMES rest en f e su i vi s,on n sign reVi ew o sl ng e am y omes on 29.9 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre), located at the southwest corner of Haven Avenue and Carrari `Street - AN 1-091-1 - 18, 19. Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. r. Steve DeGrasse, applicant, 9055 Haven, Suite 107, stated the six houses located;north of Carrari are six feet above curb and the proposed construction is six feet below curb, Mr. DeGrasse stated this s t _ t s project should be a compliment to the area and there should be minimal detrimental effects, if any. r. Gene Ehe, engineer for ;the project, showed the Commission some photographs from the Deer Creek project and basically the grading for this project is very similar, The view should net be obstructed. The intent for the removal of the Eucalyptus trees is to remove the trees for the one equestrian trail and the rest of the trees will be retained. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the height of the two-story houses. r. DeGrasse stated the height would be 22-24 feet. r, Lyle Krebs, 10 Carrari Alta Loma, disputed the comment that the view would not be obscured from the two story homes on Lots 44, 45, and Planning Commission Minutes -9- November 10, 1987 b. Mr. Krebs stated his loss of the view is his primary concern and he felt that more single story homes are needed in the project especially on Carrari Street. s. uoesphi e F. Luke, 104 Carrari , Alta Loma, stated she: had similar concerns as Mr. Krebs regarding the location of the two story homes. s. Duke felt the project was beautiful and that it would be a boost to the area in tears of property,'values. Acting as spokesman for the other neighbors, the major concern is the location of the two story homes on Carrari . Mrs. Phyllis Bennett, 5167 Whispering Forest, Alta Loma, stated her concern is regarding the water tank to the north of project and are the houses located to the north of the water tank. She questioned the pipe drainage of the project. r. ;'DeGrasse, applicant, stated in the tract layout the lots are staggered throughout the project with the hopes of minimizing obstruction of neighbors views. Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing Commissioner Cmerick stated a view is something one aunts and there should be a balance for the residents and the developer. There is no guarantee that the residents will not plant trees to block the neighbors' view. Commissioner Cmerick support preservation of as many trees as possible. Commissioner Blakesley agreed with the tree issue and he appreciates the value of a view. Commissioner Bl akesley felt this was a fine looking development and be an asset to the area Commissioner Tol stay stated he would like to see an adjustment of si ng a-story andtwo-story houses along Carrari Street. The determination of single-story houses would have to be through a line of sight. Vice Chairman Chitiea supported Commissioner olstoyas comment regarding interspursing or balancing the houses strategically to not 'obstruct the view' of neighbors. Vice Chairman Chitiea supports the trail location and the preservation of trees in this project. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff would have a difficult time measuring' the views' and determining which ones need to be preserved and where the single-story houses should be Vice` Chairman Chitiea suggested the developer bring a solution to Design Review and have this items return as a Consent Calendar issue, r e condition Commissioner Eaeric approve moved to a rove the res olution ut�on with th of the placement of a 'minimum of two additional single-story houses placed on Carrari Street. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion, i Planning Commission Minute _10- November 10, 1987 Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTCY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL --carried M. TIME EXTENSION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE reques or a me ex ension or n approve , square foot general retail center on 3.22 acres of land in the General Commercial District, located at the southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Ramona Avenue APN2U8-301-15 through 17. Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. r. Gave Balsz, project manager for the applicant, 3201 Par view, Suite 48, Irvine, stated that it is not economically feasible for the developer to underground Ramona and the alley. The applicant would consider undergrounding and absorb costs can the project on Foothill Boulevard. Vice Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing. Mr. Frank Ayala, 951 Devon, Rancho Cucamonga, lures south of the project and questioned the storm drainage system. Chris Westman, Ass istant Stan t Planner, clarified ther e o d w ul be no changes to the conditions regarding: the storm drain as proposed at this time. Toe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, stated the project would be required to do; extensiv e on-site drainage "to divert water awayth r e alley and towards Ramona`.: Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick supported the undergrounding on Foothill . Commissioner EmericE also supported the undergrounding on Ramona and the elimination of the requirement for undergroundingof the alley. Commissioner B akesley concurred with Commissioner Emerick and agreed with the elimination of the undergrounding requirement of the alley would be acceptable. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would support the Foothill undergrounding but he did not support the undergrounding of Ramona and the alley for this: project. Planning Commission Minutes I1- November 10, 1987 Vice Chairman Chi ea stated her support for the dndergrounding in alleyways, particularly when they are >adjacent to railroad tricks or somewhere else exposed to public view. Since this developer has three sides to underground, she would be more liberal with the requirement to underground the alley. Commissioner Emerick moved to approve the resolution with the requirement for the undergrdunding of Foothill and Ramona only and exclude the undergrounds ng requirement for the alley. Commi s si ondr Blakesley seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, TOLSTCy NOES.- COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL carried COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission Business at this time. PUBLIC S There were no Public Comments at this time. ADJOURWHENT Motion: Moved by Commissioner Tolstoy, seconded by Commissioner lakesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn to the November 2 , 197 meeting convening at 4:00 p.m b:SC P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Ad8ul4ler'�d� Ceputy See retary Planning Commission Minutes _ _ November 10, 1987 i CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 28, 1987 Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park COmmunity Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel teen led in the pledge of allegiance. R L COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Bl akesl ey, Suzanne Chi ti ea`, Bruce Emerick, Larry McNiel , 'Peter Tol toy COMM?ISSIONERS: ABSENT: Nave STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy CityPlanner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, Russ Maguire;, City Engineer; Barye Hanson, Senior% Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, and wren' kissack, Planning Commission Secretary. ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced the addition of Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, Advance Planning to the Planning Department. Brad Buller, City Planner, also reminded the Commission that the Planning Commission meeting of November 10, 1987 would begin at 4:00 p.m. In addition, Brad Buller, City Planner, announced the return of Dino Putrno, Assistant Planner to the City of Rancho Cucamonga. Mr. Putri`no will be working in Advance Planning. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Commissioner Tol stoy, seconded by Commissioner Chitiea, carried to approve the Minutes of September g, 1987 as submitted. Planning Commission Minutes - 1 October ; 8, 1987 Moti on: Moved by Commissioner Chi'ti ea, seconded, by Commissioner laesley, carried to approve the Minutes of September 23, 1987 as submitted CONSENT CALENDAR Item A and E of the Consent Calendar were pulled for discussion. B. TIME EXTENSION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - - reques cony ruc an__87,OUO square foot warehouse ut ing addition to an existing home improvement center and the development of a Master Plan" on 2 acres of land in theOffice/Professional District located at 7110 Archibald Avenue, northwest corner of Rase Line' Road and Lomita Court - APN 202-151- 33. C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 7-40 - CASLER - The—d—ev—eTopment of an 1T.744 squares oo an us ra a 7n on` 1.54 acre parcel within the General Industrial District (Subarea ) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan located on Sharon Circle - APN D9- 61- , D. TRACT 13058 DESIGN REVIEW - P LTE HOMES Design review of building e eva ions an plot pans or a previously approved tract map consisting of 200 single family lots on 29.16 acres of land in the Medium Residential District 4-14 dwelling units per acre) , located on the west side of Fairmont Way, south of'Highland Avenue - AN 0 - 11-1 and 38. E. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 12659 - SECURITY MANAGEMENT - A resi en a su i vi sf on single am lots an co nnlots on 67.67 acres of land in the Very Low Residential Districtr (1`- dwelling units per acre) of the Et Wanda Specific Plan, located at the southwest corner of Etiwanda Avenue' and 24th Street - APN ; - 011- 5 G. TE TTAIVE PARCEL MAP 5996 - DAVID RDWDE - Submittal of a Resolutionof ApprovaT­fforth—e e ion' o a ondi tior of Approval requiring an in-lieu fee for the future undergrouding of existing overhead utilities for a panel map located on the south side of Wilson Avenue, east of Mayberry Avenue - APN 01-180-59. Commissioner Chitiea moved approval of Items, B, C, D, F, and G. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion' carried ;by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, TDLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, EMERIC , MCNIEL NOES : COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NCNE --carried Planning Commission Minutes - 2 October 28, 1987 A. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT 87- 55 - CISNEROS - A request to modify the orT- na eso ion o pproa n ow instruction of childbirth classes within a single family residence to occur on Saturdays APN 1077-151-75. Commissioner Tolstdy stated his opposition to the request for childbirth classes on Saturday, Brad Buller, City Planner, stated a letter from the property owner of 10725 Sundance Drive had been received and indicated there were too many cars parked on Sundance Drive`. The property owner would not support the request for childbirth classes on Saturday* Chairman McNiel opened the public hearng. Ms. Wrayanne Cisneros, 10736 Sundance Drive, stated her purpose of having a Saturday class is based upon a surveys showing 32 percent of couples are unable to attend evening childbirth classes. Ms. Cisneros stated she was unaware that there was a problem with the parking problem from one of the neigbhors. Chairman McNiel closed the pudic hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt that Saturday classes would congest the neighborhood, especially parking on a cul-de-sac. Commissioner Emerick stated his opposition to an 'extension or change in the ;resolution; Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt the hours during the week would be sufficient at this time and did not support an extension to Saturday. ; Commissioner Tulstoy moved denial of the proposed amendment for request for Saturday chilbirth classes and directed staff to prepare a Resolution of Denial . Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: TDL TOY, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA NOES: MCNIEL ABSENT: NONE Commissioner MdNiel clarified his no :vote for the reasons stated '+i n discussion - carried E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW 8 -4 - LA 'PETITE - The ails en o 'a , square o ay care al I y on acres Planning Commission Minutes - 3 October 28, 1987 of land in the Community Facilities District of the Victoria Planned Community, located on the north side of North Windrows Loop at Tipu Place - APN 227-441-25. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the use is not the issue before the Commission only the environmental issues. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Stephen Ford, representative of William Lyon Company, addressed some of the issues presented in the staff report. He stated that when the Victoria Community Plan was approved in May, lg l that this site was designated a community facility. Child card is defined as a community facility. . Karen Canner, representative of La Petite Academy, further addressed the issues of the staff report and stated there are no definite plans for the excess lard at this time r. Phil Henderson, President of the Active Committee of Victoria Homeowners, stated as a community and as a beard member, this land would be better utilized as park space. The Victoria. Community has lost approximately two acres of land due to the ',point use agreement agreed upon by the City and the school' . He fel t there could be a more appropriate use for the land and that would be park space. Mr. Carmen Angelo, Victoria resident, stated they had a petition sent out and at present there are over :104 names on the petition in opposition of the La Petite Academy. sa Becky Murphy, Victoria resident, stated she felt that the school was not a proper use four this community venture. She recommended a church or community center as this is more appropriate for a community facility. Mr. Doug Lyon, 12477 Ironbird, addressed the environmental issues of the use of this facility. Mr. Lyon discussed the additional air pollution affecting the ;trees, the parking issues, and the reduction of green space in Victoria. Mrs. Susan Jappei , 155 Firethorn Street, asked where do the residents go to oppose the school if the Co ' ission is only hearing environmental issues. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that in order to change the designation of the land that currently exists, there would have to be an amendment to the planned community text. Mr. Stephen Ford, representative of William Lyon Company, stated that the school is a permitted use. The William Lyon Company is in a 'binding Planning Commission Minutes - 4 October 28, 1987 contract for the sale of this property with to Pet tie Academy they intend to pursue. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Chairman McNi el clarified that this is a permitted use and that staff would be dealing with structure placement and the structure design. Commissioner Tolstoy stated during; the hearings for the Victoria Planned Community was a traffic study for the complete Victoria Plan. Commissioner Tolstoy requested some background in regards ' e this type of use. Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the original traffic study on Victoria was done on a broad basis and looked mainly at the impact that the entire planned community would have on the city as a whole and the large, major streets. The study did give enough information to know that the land uses planned within the planned community as designated would all fit together and work adequately. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the options before the Commission are to 1) approve the environmental analysis and 'assessment as presented; ' to determine if there are environmental impacts, how significant are they, and can they be mitigated through the design of the project, or ; ) approve the environmental analysis and assessment and under a separate motion forward the land use issue to the City Council , Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated another option for the Commission would be to deny the Negative Declaration under the California Environmental Quality Act, the applicant would then be forked to proceed through the Environmental Impact Report process. Commissioner Tolstoy stated strictly looking at the environmental impacts, he suggested the Commission consider approving this declaration and referring the land issue to City Council for their reconsideration of the land use in that area. Commissioner Emerick stated that a preschool is a community use and is for the benefit of the children and the future of the community. Commissioner Bl akel ey stated he liked the idea of a preschool in a residential area. Mr. Rlakesley supported the issuance of a Negative Declaration for the environmental issues. Commissioner Chitiea agreed with Commissioner Dlakesley and agreed that the City Council review the land use determination. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the issuance of a Negative Declaration, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes - October 28, 197 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, BLA ESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Commissioner Chitiea moved to recommend that the review of the request for alternative land uses be forwarded to City Council . She also wanted it included that Planning Commision is not in opposition of the land use but would entertain direction from the City Council . Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TCLSTGY, BLAKESLEY, -EMER1 , MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NON -carried 8: 8 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 8:20 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened PUBLIC HEARINGS H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN END E T 87-04 - TAC a - Vi;6­quest to amend the erfera an Land Use ap e ow- e i Wi Residential (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to High Residential ( 4-30 dwelling units per acre) for 5.05 acres of land, lcoated on the south side of Rase Lind Road, west of Archibald - APN 208-031-18, 19. (Continued from September 23, 1987) . ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-05 - reques_t -t-d-amend the DeveTopment Distri-cet-s-ma-p- froi ow e i um (4-8 dwl 1 i n units per acre) to High' Residential ( 4- 0 dwelling units per acre) attached with the Senior Housing Overlay District (SHOD) to the base district for SQS ages of land, located on the south side of Base Line Road, west of Archibald Avenue - APN 08-0 1-18, 19. (Continued from September 3, 1987) I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 87-04 - TAC - request o amen' a an se amen o e Generalan from Low-Medium Residnetial (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to office for 1,89' acres of land, located on the west side of Archibald Avenue, south of Base Lane Road - APN 208-031-17, 54, 58 and 47. (Continued from September 23, 1987) . Planning Commiss,ion Minutes - 6 October 28, 1987 ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 7-06 - req es amen a eve opnren isVffc ap from [ow-Riaium Residential (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to Office Professional for 159 acres of land, lcoated on; the west side of Archibald Avenue, south of Dace Line Road - APN 2 8-031-17 54, 55, 55 and 57. (Continued from September 23, 1987). J. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT - A Development Agreement between the City of anc o ucaroniga and TAC Development Corporation for the purpose of providing a Senior Housing Project per the requirements of the Senior Housing Overlay District (Section 17.20.040 of the Developmetn Code, Ordinance 211) for 170 apartment units to be located on the south side of Base Line Riled, west of Archibald Avenue - APN 08-031-1 , 19. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Dave Peters, adjoining property owner, questioned the setup on water drainage and would like answers from staff to his questions. Mr. Peters also questioned the tree removal permit. Mr. Pete Pi tarsi , i tali-Dal mau, stated that all the trees within the landscape area; will be retained. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Items H, I d to the November 25, 1987 meeting at 4.00 p.m. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Staff was directed to meet with Mr. Peters on his drainage concerns. -carried K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND NTT'IE TRACT 13359 - WALTON A sus om lot su ivis ono , acres of lan fnto parse n the Very Low Density Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre)', lcoated on the east side of Sapphire Street, south of Hillside Road APN 1061-691-9, 10;and 11. (Continued from'October 10, 1987 . Related File. Variance 87-15. L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 7-15 WALTON - A request to re uce e nri ni mum average o si a om , square feet in area to 21,392 square feet in area in conjunction with a six (6) lot subdivision looted on the east side of Sapphire Street, ,south of Hillside Road - APN 2051-591-10 and 11. Related File: Tentative Tract 1335 . Planning Commission` Minutes - 7 October 28, 197 Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. The applicant was not present. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Jim Kebee. 5707 Turk Street, southeast of the proposed project, stated his concerns regarding the flood control channel and runoff onto Turk Street. Mr. Nebee also stated the Ci ty's General Plan shows this area to be designated as a park not a flood control channel . Mr. have Flanbdrg, 5717 Shire Court, stated his concerns were not only water runoff but also his view of the mountains which he feels is an environmental concern. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated this site has limited places to drain with Turk Street the nearest street. The developer has proposed to drain to that street and the City is requiring a pipe from the cul-de-sac street. Streets in the City are designed to carry water curb-to-curb. Mr. Hansen verified there would be a master plan for drainage for Sapphire. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was concerned with the water directed to Turk Street and below to the rest of the development Chairman McNiel questioned the comment that the site was designated at one time as a park. ` Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, stated the General Plan does show this general area as a park. In 1981 there were discussions with the land owner about this being a; park site and it was then determined that this site was not a viable park site. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the ingress and egress would be a real problem for this site to be a park today. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to continue Items k and L to November 10, 1987 at 4:00 p.m. to allow for a decision on the amounts of water and any future possibility of handling the water situation and determine whether the City is looking at this property as a park: site. Commissioner Nlakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES- COMMISSIONERS- TOLSTaY, BLA ,ESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried Planning Commission Minutes - 8 October 28, 1987 M. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 7- 8 - CHURCH OF CHRISM` - A request t ess a c urc n square do existing industrial complex located at 9223 Archibald Avenue, Suites J and K in the General Industrial Area, Subarea 4 of the Industrial Specific Plan District APN 09- I- .. Chris westman, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Ted Mogey, representative of the church, stated there were no comments at this time regarding the staff report. Chairman McNiel questioned and raised concern witht he compatibility of the proposed use witht he adjacent restaurant. Mr. Mogey stated there should net be any major problems with the church and the restaurant Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolty stated the back parking lot needs to he made convenient for the congregation members to park. He felt the church itself should be designed to encourage the use of the easterly parking lot. The easterly ingressle,ress areas of the church should not be used for storage area. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated a condition could be put in the resolution to address this concern. Commissioner Chitiea Moved to approve the resolution with the modification that the church designate and design the easterly entrances as the mein entrance to the church. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following' vote. ACES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, ''TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEV, EMERI K, MCNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT* COMMISSIONERS: NONE * ---carried N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 87-IU - COOPER - A request to reau-c—F-The average Tandscapino r -feet-To feet and the required parking setback from 25 feet to 17 feet along a street frontage of 130 feet, for a tiro-story project on 0.6 acres of land in the Office/Professional District, _ lcoated at the southwest corner of Beryl Street and Rase Line Road - APN U -5 -IU. Planning Commission Minutes - 9 October 28, 1987 0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-4 - COOPER The eve en of a square wo-s ry medical and professional office building on 0.6 acres of land in the Office/Professional District, located at the southwest corner of Beryl Street and Base Line Road - APN 08-09-10. Related File: Variance 87-10. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public 'hearing. Mr. Joel Cooper, 4091 Riverside Drive, Chino, consultant for the doctor who ;is the applicant, stated the applicant is trying to do a first-class building. Mr. Cooper also addressed the issue of the undergrounding of utilities and felt the applicant was being double charged Ms. Loretta Ellert, 7273 Beryl , owner of the property directly across the street, questioned the parking situation and the effect on her property. Ms Ell rt also questioned ° if the zoning would increase or decrease her property value. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, stated there was a condition from the Engineering Division that requires a "No Stopping Anytime" zone or a red curb on the project side of the street. r* George Ou dera, 7363 Garnett, stated he has no objections to the project but questioned the Base Line elevation, the total height of the building, the Beryl access, and the exterior lighting of the parking lot. He Mated that everyone" has lost their views of the mountains and this is a primary concern. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, stated that the total height of the building from the ground is 25 feet. Mr. Cooper stated that the applicant would work with staff on the lighting issue, d hpublic hearing. n c � lclose... te Ch airman e Commissioner Chitioa stated this is a very well designed project and felt it would be an asset to the neighborhood. Barre Hanson,> Senior Civil Engineer, addressed the undergrounding issue and informed the applicant that the figures he had calculated and quoted are " low. This particular project did not underground any existing utitilies. Chairman -McNiel clarified that the applicant is being assessed for the undergrounding, fifty percent, on Base Line and Beryl in the form ofin- lieu fees, Planning Commission Minutes - 10 October 28, 1987 Commissioner Chi iea stated she felt in this particularly case she would support the request of exemption, Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated this is a corner parcel . Commissioner Tol stoy agreed with Commissioner Chitiea regarding the in- lieu undergrouding fees Barrye Manson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the probability ,of the overhead 'lines on Base Line going underground is low with developer contribution. Commissioner Emerick stated since they have already undergrounded the utilities once, the Commission should excuse the in-lieu fees. Commissioner BaEesley concurred with Commissioner Emeic . Barrye Manson, Senior Civil Engineer, Mated they could adjust the fee to the length that is actually there. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would support the waiver of 'in-lieu fees on Base Line Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the development review with the modification regarding the in-lieu fees, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote; AYES. COMMISSIONERS.* CMITIEA,'TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, EMERI'CK, MCNIE NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE Commissioner Chi ti ea moved to approve the variance with respect to the setbacks, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, LAKESLEY, EMIER CK, MCNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE * --carried 9:45 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 9.55 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened Planning Commission Minutes -;' 11 October 28, ;1987 P. APPEAL OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 7-06 - ROMAR PROPERTIES - The appeal of do ions prova requi r1 ng the payme5 o nlieu fees for undergroudning of utilities along Vincent Avenue and Bth Street for the development of an industrial building in the Minimum Impact Heavy Industrial District (Subarea 9) , located on the southwest corner of Jersey Boulevard and Vincent Avenue - APN 09-1 -1 . arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chai ' an McNiel opened the public hearing r. Ralph Karubian, appellant, partner of Romar Properties, pointed out that the applicant would be willing to pay the fee for the undergroundsng of the utilities on Jersey Boulevard and along Vincent Avenue and Eighth Street when the other side of the " street develops. The applicant would-be more than happy to pay when that time cones. Mr. Karubian Mated that the Barton development has been exempt for hundreds of feet and would like to be treated in the same way. Chairman ;cNiel closed the public hearing Commissioner Blakesley stated that a lien would be an inappropriate way to finance this Rind of thing in most cases. Commissioner Tdlstoy agreed with Commissioner BlaKesley's comment. Commissioner Emerick felt that there would difficulty in collecting the fee and if the property is overencmbered, this would only multiply the difficulty. r. Karubian stated that along Jersey Boulevard that they are required to underground without any contribution, over $300,000, from across the street. Chai man McNiel stated the City has a very strict posture on the in-lieu fees for the undergrouding of utilities and relief is very rare. Commissioner Emerick moved to deny the appeal for -a lien agreement versus the in-lieu fees, Commissioner Chi ti ea seconded ` the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, ,CNITIEA, B AKESLEY, MCNIEL, TBLSTBY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NON --carried Planning Commission Minutes - 12 October 28, '1987 TENTATIVE TRACT 13063 - CITATION - Review of the perimeter wall a on a venue or an approved residnetial subdivision of 74 single family lots ; on 32.6 acres of land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) within the Etiwanda Specific Plan, located on the east side of East' Avenue at Catalpa Street= - AP -071- 7 11 and 20. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Bob'. Cunningham, architect for Citation, stated upon review- of the Etiwanda Specific Plan and after discussion with staff, the decision for the woodcrete material wall was made. Mr. Cunningham also discussed the block wall regarding the setback of the wall and also the 'straightness of the wall instead of the cutouts. Mr. Richard Eersten, 81 Utica :Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, questioned how this compares with the Etiwanda Specific Plan with regards to the material to be used, setbacks, and how the wall is to be landscaped. He felt that the Commission should stick to the Etiwanda' Specific plan or let the developers have some say in the design and development of East Avenue. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that whatever is established in the Etiwanda Specific Plan should set precedence. Mr. Jerry Linton, representative for Citation, stated they do not have a problem but there should be some deadline to the condition. ' Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Citiea agreed with the other members of the Commission but felt' that woodcrete was not appropriate for Etiwanda. Further, she stated she would not approve of a wall that doe's not have cutouts or varied setbacks. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the issues were 1 the materials proposed and what alternatives would be allowed and if the Commission would like to see the wall undulating whereby there is a setback in the wall or preference o a straight wall . If a straight wall is not acceptable, then guidelines should be developed for a setback. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that river rock would be acceptable and appropriate and that a straight line look for the wall is not appropriate. River rock crakes a nice relief for the wall as a complimentary material . Commissioner Tolstoy stated he does not have a problem with woodcrete. Planning Commission Minutes - 13 October 28, 1987 d b appropriate. 1oa Commissioner i state _ that stucco wool A decorative split block with river rock pylasters would be acceptable, River rock is good for accenting. Planters for decorative galls two to three feet off the ground ; such as on Base Line, this would be acceptable. Commissioner Blakesley stated he felt woodcrete would be appropriate Commissioner Tol stoy stated only a minimum of materials should be used. Chairman McNiel stated there were a number of comments regarding the choice of materials and felt that the planning Commission direct staff to work with the applicant and develop a workshop session for walls on East'Avenue. DIRECTOR'S REPORTS R. MODIFICATION TO THE INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN RAIL SPUR REQUIREMENTS Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. ra Gilbert Aja, representative for Jim and Jerry 'Laird, stated in master planning this site, they became aware of two problems regarding the flexibility and the size of the site. Mr. a further discussed the property size and meeting the 'standards of the Industrial Specific Plan. Perhaps the ordinance was not considering a narrow parcel of land. After discussion, the Commission directed staff to prepare an amendment to allow waiver of the rail spur requirement when it is physically impossible to provide. COMMISSION BUSINESS Tile Roofs - Dan Coleman presented a staff report. Discussion was heard regarding the the roofs. The direction of the Commission is the requirement of the roofs on all new construction with the exemption of remodeling, reroofing, and relocations. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. ADJWRNMENT I Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by McNiel , motion unanimously carried, to adjourn to the November 10 1987 meeting to be held at 4:00 p.m, Planning Commission Adjourned 11m Q p.m, I Planning Commission Minutes -14- October 28, 1987 Respectfully sa mid , Brad Buller City Planner Planning Commission Minutes - - October 28, 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regul ar Meeting October 14, 1987 Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at :00 p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, < Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance, ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David B akesl'ey, Suzanne Ch tiea;, Bruce Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tol stay COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner; pan Coleman, Senior Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Cynthia rinser, Assistant Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner; Russ Maguire, CityEngineer; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; doe Stoa, Associate Civil Engineer; and Karen Kissack, Planning Commission Secretary. MWOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced the selection of Larry Henderson as the new Senior Planner for Advanced Planning. Mr. Henderson will begin his employment ment with the City of Rancho Cucamonga on October 26, 1987. r. Buller also announced the invitation to all Commissioners to attend the commemorative train trip from Los Angeles to .San Bernardino on October 1 , 1987. CONSENT CALENDAR A. ENVIRONMENTAL S S MENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-4 - EMPIRE proposal o cons ruc a , square o0 o ace ua ang on .64 acres of land in the Industrial Park District, Subarea 7, Lot 7 of the; Office Tennis Executive Center located on the north' side of Civic Center Drive,_ between Red Oak and Utica Planning Commission Minutes -I- October 14, 1987 Commi ssioer Tolsoy moved approval of the Consent Calendar, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIE NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried PUBLIC HEARINGS B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT=: AND TENTATIVE` TRACT 13349 - WALTON A cus a o su5division o acres an o 6 parcels in the Very Lev Density Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located on the east side of Sapphire Street, south of Hillside Road APN 1061 691-9, 10 and 11. (Continued from September 9, 1987 meeting). Commissioner Chi ti ea moved to continue, Item 8 to the October 28, 1987 meeting, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA,-TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, 'E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT' 13727 - dA SSENS - A rest en i su 1 v i on of 12 single family ibfi on acres of land in the Low Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre;) , located at the southwest corner of Carnelian Street and Highland Avenue - APN 01- 14-11. (Continued from September 23, 1987 meeting). Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue :Item C to the November 1:0, 1987 meeting, Commissioner T lstay seconded the motion, Motion carried b the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: C ITIEA, TOLSTOY, B AKESLEY, E ERI`CK, MC IEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried Planning Commission Minutes - - October 14, 1987 O. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-14 - GREENVIEW ESTATES a eve opmen o multi-familyunits on 10.15 acres of—Fa-n-& in the Medium Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Baker Avenue - APN 07- 01- 0 41, 42 and 4 ' Associated with the development is Tree Removal Permit 7-62 requesting the removal of a number of trees scattered throughout :the site. (Continued from September 23, 1987 meeting). ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13650 - OREENVIEW ESTATESr es n a' u 1V1 ton an — n rev ' - own ome units on 10.15 acres of land in the Medium; Residential District -14 dwelling units per acre)', located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Baker Avenue - APN 07- O1- 0, 41, 42 and 43. Associated with the development is Tree Removal Permit 7-6 requesting the removal of a number of trees scattered throughout the site. (Continued from September 23, 1987 meeting). Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Since the applicant was not present at the time, Chairman McNiel stated this item would be heard later in the meeting. E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13722 - WILLI LYON r � en f a su 1 t�on o o s on a res es an the Medium (4-14 dwelling units per acre) and Medium-Nigh (14- 4 dwelling units per acre) Residential Districts within the Victoria Planned Community, located at the northwest corner of Victoria Park Lane and Milliken Avenue - APN 0 -- 11-13 and 14. (Continued from September 23, 1987 meeting). Scott Murphy, Associate planner, presented the staff report* Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r, Stephen Ford, representative of the William Lyon Company, stated they have reviewed the staff report and are in agreement with the conditions. He clarified that this a tact that the William Lyon Company will be building the houses themselves. He al so stated that Item 15 in the Standard Conditions regarding a homeowners ` association should be strient Scott Murphy agreed that Item 15 in the Standard Conditions should not have been checked Chairman McNiel' closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved approval of Tentative Tract as corrected, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote Planning Commission Minutes - - October 14, 1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, 'BLA ESLEY, EMERICk, MCNIEL, TOLST Y NOES COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 85-4 - KOTOFF A propose cons ruc 4-pa rUnieh uri on . acre 5f Ta—nd in the Medium-High Residential District 14- `4 dwelling units per acre) located north of Base Line, SSO feet east of Day Creek Channel - APN - I-21. Associated with the proposal is Tree Removal Permit 87-6 Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea questioned if there was a detailed landscape plan. r. Murphy responded there is a conceptual landscape plan* Brad Buller, City Planner, stated if there is a concern with the landscaping, it could be directed back to staff or hack to Design Review Committee. - Commissioner Tolstoy recommended it be brought back to the Design Review Committee because of the size and unusual configuration of the piece of property.; Also, there will be another project adjacent to this which will be similar, Chairman Mci el opened the public hearing. Mr. Don King, representative of the applicant, stated there- was a conceptual landscape plan presented per code and has been in the review process since 1985 and was available at Design Review. The Design Review Committee did review the landscape plan and offered suggestions which were incorporated into the design at the time. A detailed landscape plan is not submitted normally until the time of application l for final for final grading plan ` and building plans. The conceptual plan has been submitted and reviewed by staff. There has been no concern or comment of the conceptual landscape plan. Commissioner Tolstoy stated another reason for the landscape plan to come back to Design Review is the preservation of the oak tree. Chairman McNiel' closed the ,public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was concerned about the landscaping because of the configuration and proximity to Base Line. She would like o be assured that the amenities are located in the proper places, walkways are of appropriate materials and consistent with other projects this size: Planning Commission Minutes - - October 14, 1987 Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve Development Review 85-42 with the modification that the detail landscape plan go back to Design Review Committee, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES.- COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 13715 - WALTON MRSTRUCTION : A F-e-s-14-e-nti4l---s-ub-alv�ls!66-- ind—d—esign Weview--W--�' s i n g-Ve---f-aimfly lots on 2.54 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located on the north side of Jennet Street, west of Sapphire Street APN 1062-011-02. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea questioned if there was a trail connection on the south side of the street lirectly across from the project. Mr. Murphy stated there is no connection . Commissioner Blakesley questioned sidewalk improvements. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the Adhoc Committee that was formed when the original thoroughbred track was reviewed, it was one of the recommendations of the Committee that no sidewalks be provided in the original thoroughbred track and this was to be the same to be consistent. Chairman cNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Guy Williams, Land Use Planning Consultant, 201 East Financial Way, Glendora, stated they have reviewed the staff report and agree with the conditions of the staff report. Chairman ,cNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the project, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * * * * * * carried Planning Commission Minutes -5- October 14, 1987 ___---------- H. TIME EXTENSION AND MODIFICATION OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR - - A division of 131 acres of I ndntt 5PE0 s ithin the Minimum Impact Heavy Industrial Area (Subarea 9) , located on the south side of Arrow Roue, east and west of Milliken Avenue' - AP 9-111- . Barre Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Robert Sundstrom, representing Williams and Schmidt, questioned the undergrounding of 66KV lines. Barr ye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, clarified that the undergrounding of the 6 KV was not being requested but the 'single strand communication wire for the 6KV line can be undergrounded and ;this is what is being requested to be undergrounded. modifications Mr. undstrom stated the will not disagree with the added_ of the conditions for the time extension. Chairman 'cNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution with the approval of the applicant to include the undergrounding of the utilities Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES; OHITIEA, EMERICK, D AXESLEY, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE --carried I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVETRACT 1 579 - AYOOH - u - amp res en i al aiW!65mint comprising o uni s; on .69 acres of land in the Medium Residential District (614 dwelling units per ac re) , Located on the east side of Hellman Avenue, 35 feet north of lgth Street - APN 201-474-12. Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea questioned whether the perimeter wars match the adjoining developments and if there is a decorative finish on the front porch walls. She did not feel cinder block in the front was not appropriate, it should have a matching stucco cover and a cap and be consistent on the interior within the project itself. She stated she is Planning Commission Minutes - - October 14, 1987 i particularly concerned with the front portion with a decorative finish and feels that stucco would be most appropriate. _ Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Richard Ayoub, owner of the project;, stated he is in agreement with the staff report. He agreed with 'Commissioner hitiea's recommendation about putting up cinder block and stuccoing it. Chairman McNiei closed the pudic hearing. Commissioner Blakesley expressed his concern about the amount of hardcape and drive between the tw o buildings and the sound attenuation. He was concerned there is very little room for landscaping. Commi ssioer Tolstoy stated that .some language be put in the requirements so that the wall situation is taken care of to the satisfaction of the City Planner, In his opinion,; Mr. Tol stay stated he did not feel it was a very good project as the developer has tried to overdevelop the piece of property. Commissioner hitiea expressed her ;concerns regarding the massive amount of hrdscpe in relation to the landscape. ,Also the balconies extend right over the asphalt and this would not seem to be appealing as the asphalt generates a'great deal of heat, Commissioner erick commented on the lack of landscaping that grows upright to the sky and the expansive concrete to the south. He is also concerned about the emergency fire access to the north which means there will ; be no landscaping in that access® It will be open for fire truck access. He would like to see the intensity of use dropped and the design reviewed with a little more landscaping. Commissioner Chitiea, stated the site plan and the landscaping needs to be readdressed but the ba sic concerns regarding_ the a r chi tectual issues have been met. Brad Buller, City Planner, summarized the mayor concerns of the Commission stating the amount of hardscape that abuts the property, especially to ;the south and along the alleyway of the driveway to the garages. Staff would work with the applicant on increasing the width of the planted areas to allow some more significant landscaping. Commissioner Tol story agreed with Mr. Buller and reiterated that there was just too much project for the property. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the north and south faces of the building closest to the street as well as the interior alleyway court faces of the project could be 'softened through landscaping. Planning Commission Minutes -7- October '1 , 1987 r. Richard Ayoub, applicant, indicated he weld agree with the continuance of this item: Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved to continue this project to the November 10, 19874 4: O p.m. , and in the interim refer it to Design Review for further comment and review. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: HONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried 8:07`P.M. -- Planning Commission Recessed 8:22P.M. -- Planning Commission Reconvened J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ARID DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT 7- - CITY n amen men o w 0il avmat, c,oai bf llie— CiTy o anc o ucamonga Ordinance 211, to revise Section 17.1 .040 pertaining to upgrade of parking allocation standards and to require enclosed garages for ;all apartment and condominium projects; and, to revise Section 1 .0 .090 pertaining to upgrade of General Design Guidelinesfor parking areas in multiple family developments; and, to revise Section 17.0 .040 pertaining to upgrade of minimum residential unit size. Alan Marren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. Mr. Stephen Ford., representative of the William Lyon Company, addressed the issue of the 1,000 minimum square footage as proposed in the resolution. The 1,000 square foot minimum is applicable to any single family detached unit regardless of the land use designation that it would be constructed in They have a strong concern about the 1,00 square foot minimum in Low-Medium or Medium categories. Victoria Planned Community has a number of single family: projects in the Low- Medium and Medium category and a number of projects have been built well under 1,000 square feet. Their best selling hone is 917 square feet. Setting the 1,000 square foot minimum increases the costs of single family detached home that could be on a 3,000 - 4,000 square foot lot enough that it would eliminate the opportunities for that type of home 'ownership which is most desirable to the market place. This would be inconsistent with the goals of good housing practice'. ;a %1 Planning Commission Minutes -8- October 14, 1987 I Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick questioned the staff's reasons for the step up of 90O square feet to 1,000 square feet, Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the figures for the 1,UOO square feet for single family has generated over several workshops which involved :the William Lyon Company, Lewis Homes, B1A, and the Planning Commission. It was the recommendation of the Planning Commission to go to 1,000; square feet for more liveable space as opposed to the 900 square foot. During these workshops there were also discussions to increase the minimum lot size to 5,000 square feet. However, that issue has been put on hold pending a market study from BlA regarding the market effects of increasing the minim lot size to 5,000 square feet. Commissioner Chitiea agreed :that the staff's rewriting of the storage unit aspect is; very appropriate._ Commissioner Tolstoy stated that one of his considerations during the workshop was that additional space in a house would upgrade the quality of the life of the people who lived in the house... There was discussion at that time about increasing the average square footage of the lot which would improve the streetscape and the appearance of the neighborhood. Commissioner Emerick stated that the deciding factor in the liveability of the unit is not how big the unit is but the number of people in the house. Mr. Emerick would advocate a larger minimum lot size but he would support the 900 square feet of the unit if that is what it takes to get entry level people in the market. Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, stated the initial impetus regarding the unit size came from the City Council . Further the Conditional Use Permit process does' permit houses smaller than 1,000 square- feet' if the Commission decided to approve this: requirements. Brad Buller, City Planner, clarified that with the recommended changes they are not prohibiting units less than 1,000 square feet but make them conditional versus permitted. Commissioner Tolstoy stated his support of the 1,000 square foot minimum and believed the Conditional Use Permit will alert the developer that his design will have to be more innovative. Reviewing the staff report, r. Tolstoy also stated that compact car parking spaces are inappropriate in a commercial center but maybe not in residential ; Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested as an approach to the issue of compact car parking staff could do an analysis whereby surveying compliance or noncompliance with compact spaces and 'how other' cities handle it. However, if there is a consensus now to process a code amendment, then the Commission could direct staff to do so. Planning Commission Minutes -9- October 14, 1987 Commissioner Tdl stay felt that developers tend to overdevelop a site using the compact parking space ratio. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the issue of 'hang-on storage and whether the Commission has qured some type of storage, especially in the condominium units, or is it up to the developer. Commissioner Chitiea stated the direction of the Commission has been that storage be provided either on the interior space of 'the unit or elsewhere. There was a time when this was incorporated into every project. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred that add-on appearance is undesirable but a carport that is designed with that in mind from the beginning could be very desirable. The proper design of attached storage units should be encouraged as well as their use for condominiums and apartments. Brad' Buller, City planner, there is not a storage spade requirement for apartments. Commissioner Tolstoy stated-' that since apartments often turn into condominiums there should be some consideration for the requirement of storage. Commissioner Blakesley moved to approve the Development Code Amendment as amended, Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Commissioner Tolsoy requested that staff prepare a report regarding compact car parking spaces and the requirements of storage for condominiums as well s apartments. Motion was carried by the followings voter AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, C ITI A EME ICk, MCNIEL, T LSTCY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ASSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried K. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 86-0 - CASALE`TI - The review of the providing o ve en er a nmen an ancrng in conjunction with the Polka Palace Restaurant, located at 1583 Highland Avenue. Dan Coleman, .Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Bob Casal etti , owner of the Polka Palace, questioned the condition of the security guard. Mr. Casaletti stated he was a licensed and bonded special deputy in the county and felt this would satisfy the condition of the entertainment permit. Planning Commission Minutes -10m October 14, 1987 Chairman McNiel stated the condition of the uniformed guard is mechanical process that the permit must meet.' Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the City would need some verification of the license; for Mr. Csletti °s ability to maintain control . r. Doug Lyon,; 1 477 Ironguard, questioned the nature of the action of the Commission regarding this issue. Chairman McNiel stated that the City Council passed an ordinance that provides control over the entertainment function of the business. Mr® Ca al etti is, therefore, complying with the 1986 ordinance and this allows to continue what he is doing. Mrs. Robert Casaletti , owner of Polka Palace, stated her hopes to continue with their business. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved approval the Entertainment Permit 86-0 , - Csaletti Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT, COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT * --carried L. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 87-0 - LACH The review of providing disc oc ey, re an s, come acts and dancing in conjunction with the ClubHi-Brow to be located at 10134 Foothill Boulevard. Ban Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. 'fed Lach, owner of the Club Hi-Brow Lounge, stated he agreed with the conditions of the stiff report. Mr. Lach stated he would change the quality of the club and would Mork hard making it an asset to Rancho Cucamonga, Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Commissioner C`hitie;a questioned how late Mr. Cach proposed to have entertainment. Mr. Lach stated entertainment would last until 1: 0 a.m. Planning Commission Minutes -11- October 14, 1987 Commissioner Chitiea questioned how Mr. Lach proposed to police the parking lot. Mr. Lach stated he may have more than one security guard, one to polite the inside and one to maintain assemblance outside in the parking lot. Commissioner Emerick questioned ter. Lach if he was leasing the property and stated he had some concerns about upgrading the property, perhaps paving the parking lot. r. Lach stated he 'would like to do some considerable improvements for the entire property, making it much more desirable looking. rGeorge furdera adjoining property ow_ er st ated he has no objections to the proposed business. Staff and the Commission have answered most of his questions regarding debris and the control of parking. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved to; approve the Entertainment Permit 87-0 Lach Motion died due to lack of a second at this time. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to some, language put in the resolution requiring both the parking lot and dance floor supervision. Commissioner Emerick questioned adequate lighting of the parking lot„ The need for parking lot security is heightened if there is not enough lighting. Commissioner Chitiea stated that entertainment and hours of operation should be monitored.; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, in response to the Commission's comments regarding parking lot lighting, outside security, or potential problems, stated that if there is a rational relationship between the Entertainment Permit and what is occurring on the site, then there is a sufficient nexus to condition it. At this point, the Commission has no data to Support this kind of condition on the site. Commissioner Tolstoy moved approval of the entertainment permit, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion.; otion carried by the following vote: AYES; COMMISSIONERS*. TCLSTOY, EMENICK, BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE _carried Planning Commission Minutes -lit- October 14, '1 87 Council Referrals P. APPEAL OF PARCEL MAP ggg - OAV O B WREN - The appeal of the on 1 ions 111,of - Approvil requMng an in-lieu fed for the future undergrounding of the existing overhead utilities for this ,project located on the south side of Wilson Avenue, west of Haven Avenue APN 01-180-59 Barrye Hanson,' Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea questioned Mr. Hanson whether the applicant's statement, that it is unlikely that the undergrounding will sever be completed, was accurate ' Mr. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated no, the statement was not accurate since there is a possibility that it will be completed due to fees, assessment district, or some other - issues that will be discussed in the future by the City Council in no specific time frame. Chairman McNi el opened the pudic hearing. Linda Bowden, 1441 Campus, Ontario, gave the background on the Tentative Parcel Map 596. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Chairman McNiel stated that what has transpired has caused some inconvenience and expense to the Boawdens`, however, he stated his favoritism for undergrounding. Commissioner Emerick stated in this situation fairness and justice rewires an exemption to the undergrounding. The only reason the Bowden's 'parcel map came in late was because of the fluidity in the zoning situation. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he feels the applicant at the time they applied could have gotten an eight-lot subdivision. The City and the people around it wanted' to have it rezoned and they were asked; by the Commission to withdraw the parcel map, the change was made, and they resubmitted which put them under the new requirement. They were in good faith and did try to cooperate with the City. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil; Engineer, stated the Commission has the option to exempt. Commissioner Chitiea stated this property would be much improved with undergrounding. Commissioner Ilakesley agreed that undergrounding is important. However, this is a matter of equity and is in favor of exempting the appellant from undergrounding Planning Commission Minutes - ;3- October 14, '1987 Coninissioner Tol stogy° stated the Commission does have the right to make exemptions and them is a real reason here to make the exemption. Commissioner Tol story moved to approve the appeal by minute action and direct staff to bring back an approval resolution for adoption at the next meeting. Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. AYES. COMMISSIONERS: TQLSTCY, EMERIC , BLAKESLEY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Chairman McNi el and Commissioner Chi ti ea clarified their no votes for the reasons stated in discussion, --carried D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-14 - GREENVIEW - e eve oilmen �uni son acmes an in the Medium Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre), located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Baker Avenue - APN 207-201-30, 41, ;42 and 48. Associated with the development is Tree Removal permit 7-62 requesting the removal of a number of trees scattered throughout the site. (Continued from September 23, 187 meeting) ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13650 GREENVIEW Feiiainfiil suBdivision an esi gn review of 14U ow e units on 10.15 acres of land in the Medium' Residential District - 4 dwelling units per acre), located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Ewer Avenue: - APN 207-201- 0, 41, 42 and 43. Associated with the development is Tree Removal Permit 87-62 requesting the removal of a number of trees scattered throughout the site. (Continued from September 2 , 1987 meeting) . The staff report had been previously presented. Mr. Colter Winn, representative of Greenview Estates, stated the applicant is in agreement with the staff report and have no objection to the conditions stated therein. ;Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner C itiea stated the tower seems to project too high above the rest of the building. She also questioned if the mobile home park adjacent to the site was taken into consideration with regards to the landscape treatment. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, stated dense planting along the property line would be provided as a buffer zone between the two and the Planning Commission Minutes -14- October 14, '1987 final landscape plan would provide details as to what type of solid buffer. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he felt the recreation building is out of scale with the rest of the project and suggested that staff and the architect work out the problems. This could then come back to Design Review as a Consent Calendar item. Commissioner Tolstoy moved that OR 8 - 4 be approved as modified with thesuggestions of the o f ssi on Commissioner�s goner C _ s lade e d sl seconded 'h ne to y motion. Commissioner Emeri ck stated he wanted the minutes to reflect some emphasis be on the screening of the hardscape areas. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. Mr. Winn stated the purpose of the tower was to be seen as a nighttime function as well as a daytime one and the interior lighting aspects of the space just to give it some definition. Also, the entry is going to be defined by an overhead plane of trellises to work with the landscaping. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Motion for approval of DR 87-14 was carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, ENTERIC , MCRIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ASSERT; COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried Commissioner Tolstoy moved approval of the Tentative Tract 13650 - Greenvi ew Estates, Commissioner Emeri ck seconded the' motion. Motion carried as follows: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, E ERICK, BLAKESLEY, 'CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES COMMISSIONERS: MORE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE - carried OLD BUSINESS M. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 84- B - H MPHREY TRUCKING - A review o comp lance o e con ions o approv or a rucking firm and caretaker' s quarters in an existing building on B acres of land in Planning Commission Minutes -1 - October 14, 1987 -- --------- ----------- ——-------------------------.................. the General Industrial District, Subarea 8, located at 8604 Pecan Avenue, south of Arrow Highway - APN 229-141-08 and 229-151-24 and 26. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman cNiel opened the public hearing, Mr. Eddie Hall , representing Mrs. Humphrey of Humphrey Trucking, addressed the concerns of the staff report and conditions and stated that the time frame of 45 days would be acceptable. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy stated the screening required for the roof top air conditioner would be out of scale with the house and suggested that it might be better not to do the roof screening. Chairman cNiel stated the applicant be instructed to work with staff to get in due compliance in the 45 day time frame, Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. all stated the screening of the air conditioner was requested to make the house look like an office, He stated they would consider removal of the air conditioner from the roof. Chairman cNiel closed the public hearing. Minute action indicates that the, Commission directed the applicant to work with staff on the removal of the air conditioner from the roof. N. TRACT 10046 - EQUESTRIAN TRAILS - MORROW - A request to delete a poftfd-K-- f a local---e4iUi6tt---roan trail easement within a previously approved tract consisting of 27 single family lots within the Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre), located on the north side of Hillside Road,, west of Hermosa Avenue. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, prese,nted the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Ms. Sharon Morrow, 9119 Baytree Court, applicant, concurs with whatever staff recommends to remedy the situation. Her major concern with land use is primarily Lots 2, 3, and 4 of the tract. Mr. Dave Widely, 5480 Evening Canyon Way, resident of the tract, objected to the change because of the negative impact of the environment in which they purchased their home. If closure were to occur, the horses would be forced out of the tract. Mr. Widely submitted seven letters of neighbors in protest against the change in the tract. Mr. Planning Commission Minutes -16- October 14, 1987 �I Widely stated he would like to see the Commission recommend against changes to the original plan of the tract. r. Lauren Apfel , 541 Evening Canyon Way, stated he is in favor of the trail staying but questions the manner in which the trail was originally placed. The trail .bisects the lets whereby the owner has land on both sides of the trail . Mr. Ap�fel suggests the hail be redesigned and regraded so that it be consistent with the trail in the rest of the tract so it does not bisect the lot. Mr. Bob Fritz, 50 Evening Canyon Way, stated if the bridle trail was to be cut off, there would be no access to their backyard to bring in wood for the fireplace or any other necessary work. Mr. Fritz would not like to see it blocked off. s. Anna Maria Jones, 911 Baytree Court, stated the trail is not where it was on the trap. It is stated in the CC & }s that the trails are not to be used for any vehicle use; the use is for horses only. Mr. Gary Womack, 5366 Evening Canyon Way, stated his opposition to eliminating the trails The trail does impact some of the lots negatively. r. Widely stated the tract craps were available and the issue is really between Lewis Homes and the buyers. Three out of twenty-seven buyers would indicate carelessness on the buyers' part. Ms. Morrow stated she had signed a paper from Lewis Homes stating the ` bridle path would be on the beck fifteen feet of her Sot. Chairman McHiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick questioned if the Commission were to approve a change in the equestrian trail consistent with the applicant's desire, the Commission could not impair private deed restrictions. Would the private deed restrictions be in force and in effect? Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated there was a property right to the residents in the tract. There is a condition of the resolution making this action conditional upon the 100 percent approval of all the residents. Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt the dispute is between Lewis Homes and the purchaser if Lewis Horses did not put the trail where they stated it would be. Commissioner Emerick recommended that ;staff be directed to prepare a resolution of denial of the request. Motion carried as follows: Planning Commission Minutes -17 October 14, '1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * * * * * --carried C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-44 - INTRASTATE proposa t 6tons. uc-- --tr-- -a FTNAUCIAL -DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION A l t squiFe- Mt an 5-07Hn—g on 1.5 acres of land in the Industrial Park District, Haven Avenue Overlay District, located on the southeast corner of Haven Avenue and Civic Center Drive - APN: 208-622-36. Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chaff an Mc Niel opened the public hearing. Mr. Bill Warkentin, applicant, Warkentin-Wright, 3197-C Airport Loop, Costa Mesa, explained how they intent to screen the air conditioning equipment. They will be creating a well in the upper portion of the building which will completely screen the equipment. will have the look of a louver effect. Commissioner Chitiea questioned if the architect had explored any alternative materials for the base of the building. Mr. Warkentin stated no. He believed the material proposed was the most positive way for the building to make the statement that the client wanted. Criticism from Design Review was taken into consideration but they felt their rationale for presenting the project as it was was solid and they have chosen not to change it. Brad Buller, City Planner, in response to Chairman McNiel 's question to Design Review's comments, stated the foundation is a foundation course which is a split-face concrete block. Mr. Warkentin stated the entire building is ringed and set upon that base and the remainder of the structure is brick block and/or brick veneer of exactly the same type. Chairman Mc Niel stated he would like to see a different material used. Mr. Workentin stated this building results from an exercise in conflict resolution. It has a series of criteria that have created its form and substance and has a strict set of CCR's that apply to the property. The issue of the viewlines into the K-Mart site was taken into high consideration since their resolution was to make the building appear as low as possible. They then emphasized the horizontality since the building has bands of brick, bands of glass, and the bottom course has Planning Commission Minutes -1 - October 14, 1987 ............ even a stronger emphasis with a change of material and a change of color to really dominantly establish the horizontality to the building. He also pointed out the fact that from the two public streets, that the project fronts onto, you actually don't see the lower course of the building or the bottom of the windows even from a car because of the height of the landscape berm. Part of their design theory was to try to sink the building as much as possible. Chairman cNiel closed the public hearing, Commissioner Chi ties stated her objection was not the color change but the particular choice of materials. The materials proposed give it a more raw, unfinished look. The same effect might have been achieved in a more attractive manner by using a lighter color of brick or some other finished looking material . She acknowledged that the building behind this proposed project used a split-face concrete but that she was not particularly pleased with the solution on that building and would not care to see it repeated on this building. Commissioner Emerick stated his deference to this issue and 'felt the building that Ms. Chitiea referred was not an attractive building. Commissioner Blakesley felt this was an impressive project and does not have a particular problem with it. Chairman cNiel stated the proposed material for the foundation course of this bank cheapens the project. Chairman cNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Warkentin >felt the contrast in color and the richness in texture material is appealing. The system is integrated and all part of a fabric woven to make it a total environment. Commissioner Chi tied objected to that much split-face concrete not only on the building but out into the plaza area also. She stated this topic was discussed some time ago with the K-Mart center. When the Ponderosa was proposed, it was discussed, whether the Ponderosa should match the split-face look of K-tart or be brick. The decision was brick. Commissioner Emerick liked the organic concept of the building and landscaping plan. Commissioner Tolstoy concurred with Commissioner Emerick. Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, questioned the color scheme, especially the color of the glass, since it is different from that which was approved by the Design Review. What was approved is not what appears in the color renderings. Since this is such an important location he suggested clarification from the architect. Planning Commission Minutes _19- October 14, 1987 Mr. Warkentin stated it may appear different from the accent color and it may also appear brighter on the rendering. Commissioner Blakesley stated he; could see no compelling reason to override the architect's judgment. Commissioner Chitiea felt since this was a bank building across from the Civic Center in an strategic and ;important location it should not be approved with an industrial look or something less than it could be. Commissioner E erick moved to approve the project as forth in the resolution, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, ,TOLS OY, BLAKESLEY NOES:: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: NONE * --carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS Q. LANDSCAPING WITHIN FREEWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY Commissioner Tail stoy moved to approve the resolution regarding freeway landscaping. Commissioner Chi ti ea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried R. CLARIFICATION OF STREETSCAPE SETBACKS The Commission= reaffi ed the current code setback measurement shall be from the ultimate curb line COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business at this time. PUBLIC C There were no public comments at this time. Planning Commission Minutes - 0- October 1 , 1987 ADJOURNWNT Motion. Moved by Tol,stoy, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn to November 1 , 1987, at 4:00 p.m 11:40 p.m. -- Planning Commission Adjourned* Respectfully submitted, 4�4 Brad; Buller Deputy Secretary Planning Commission Minutes - 1- October 14, 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CC CA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 23, 198 Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The 'meeting was held at the Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Resn Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman 'McRi l then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL L COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley (arrived at 7:06 p.m.), Suzanne Chitiea arrived at ' : 5 p.m. ), Bruce Emerick, Peter Tolstoy, and Larry Phil CC ISSN EL;; ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT, Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner; Greg Gage, Assistant Planner; Scutt Murphy, Associate Planned Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner; Miki Bratt, Assistant Planner; Richard Alcorn, Code Enforcement Supervisor; Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Barryo Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil Engineer; Betty Miller, Assistant Civil Engineer, due Stuf , Associate Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; and Karen Kissack, Planning Commission Secretary. ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that David Blakesley ' and Suzanne Chiti a would be arriving late for the meeting. r. Buller also stated that Item Q would be added to the agenda regarding the November and December regular meeting dates for the Planning Commission meetings. CONSEXT CALENDAR A. RESOLUTION DE DENIAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT H - H - MESSENGER The request for a Master Conditional Use Permit to allow Business Support Services, Convenience Sales and Service, Food and Beverage Sales in Buildings 1, 2 and 3 of an approved industrial business park, in the General Industrial District, Subarea 2, located on the south side of Arrow Highway at Bear' Gulch Place - APN 9-01 -19. B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESS ENT f DEVELOPMENT REVIEW - 1- proposa11 eve oP a i enan in ds ria par consis n of 3 buildings totaling 142,500 square feet on 7.29 acres in the General industrial district, Subarea S, located west of Lucas Ranch Road and north of 4th Street -i APN 210-071-39,57. Commissioner Tdlsto,y moved to approve the Consent Calendar, Commissioner Emeric . seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TQLSTGY, EMERICK, MCNIEL' ES. G OMM I'SSINERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: RLA ESLEY, GNITIEA --carried Commissioner David Blakesley arrived at 7:06 p.m. HEARINGSPIJBLIC C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT D TENTATIVE PARCEL P 1Gg41 � TURNER CO, s Avis ono ages d are into 3 parce s fn WAG e er 1—Indu trial Development District, Subarea S, located n the west side of Lucas Ranch Road, north of 4th Street - AN 10-0 1-5 , 39. Barbara Krall , Assistant Civil ` Engineer, presented the staff' report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing, r. Jay Allen, 10 wail , Newport Beach, EA representing Turner Development Co., stated they concurred with the findings of the staff report. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the tentative parcel map, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TGLSTOY, E ERIE , RLA ESLEY, ' ENIE NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Planning Commission Minutes -2- September 23, 1987 ABSENT. -COMMISSIONERS: CINITICA --carried D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT I'll, CUCWHinNJ DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT 7-01 n a mehdiW#4t--td---Ti-tle---17-4--6-of--the— to the definition of State mandated recycling facilities and the criteria for design, location and operation of such facilities. (Continued from August 26, 198M Greg Cage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Since tern were no public comments, Chairman Mc i el closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tdlstay stated the Commission needs to pay particular attention to the retrofitting of existing centers so that the recycling facility 4l ' it into the center and net obstruct traffic and he architect_ Iasi ng and compatible. Chairman McNiel questioned the process regarding the facilities' location. Brad "Buller, City Planner, stated as drafted it is an administrative action for the City;staff under the City Planner's direction. Commissioner Emerick roved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAK SLCY, MC I L, TOLSTOY NOES. COMMISSIONERS.* NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: CHITI A --carded C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 137 - JANSS S - A 're s en i s iubili v ono singe a re ly T o s on ad re s of land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre), located at the southwest corner of Carnelian Street and Highland Avenue - APN 1- 14-11. (Continued from September 9, `1987). i Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the applicant has submitted a` letter requesting continuance to October 14, 1987 and staff supports this recommendati on, Planning Commission Minutes -3- September 23, 1987 i i Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved continuance to October 14, 1957, Commissioner Slasley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL, T LSTC NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ChITICA --carried F. ENVIRONMENTAL ,ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 87-04 - J E reques b an' Use Map of th—e energy n rbmr ow Density Residential 2 4 dwelling units per acre) to Commercial for approximately three acres, located on the east side of Milliken Avenue, north of Highland Avenue - APN 225- 41-2 . ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT - n appTicatfbn to amen e eve en rr ap T—rom Carn Planned Community to Neighborhood Commercial for approximately three acres located on the east side of Milliken Avenue, north of Highland Avenue - APN 225-141-29. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated this item was withdrawn by the applicant. No further action is necessary. Commissioner Suzanne Chit ea arrived at 7: 5 p.m, for the meeting. G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 87- 4R - WEIRICK segue o armen a an se e n o a energy ~o office to eghorhod Co ecial for aces of tan , 1 ecated on the south ' st corner' of Lbrmi to Court and Archi hat d' Avenue APR 202-15I- 3: ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ,AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 7-0 reques o Tamend the eve o n s roc r ice/Professional to "NC" (Neighborhood ' Commercial ) for 3.58 acres, 'located on the 'southwest`corner of Lomita Court and Archibald Avenue' - APN 202-151-3 . Otto Kroutil , Deputy City' Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman MNiel opened the public hearing. r. hardy Stroier, The Planning Associates, , 151 Fairway Avenue, Costa Planning Commission Minutes -4- September 23, 1987 Mesa, representing Mr. Alan Weirick, clarified their request in the General Plan Amendment zone change as it is actually a mixed land use change that would identify 60 percent retail and 40 percent office use on the si te. It was agreed the appropriate mechanism o allow ;such a commercial office retail mix to occur was a commercial land use change both in the General plan and the zoning map:; City Council had recommended in dull 1987 that the project be brought back to the Planning Commission for the Commission's review of a mixed land use project. The Council indicated they could support a project of mixed land use if a significant portion of the site was devoted to office. The Council further noted that the design be compatible and sensitive to the residential; character of the neighborhood. Mr. Strozier outlined their proposals to the Design Review Committee's concerns and further analyzed the economic market study done by Dr. Lobar. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, stated the initial discussions were the result of a city initiated study. This is the first time a formal application has been; done in the last year. Commissioner Emerick pointed out that the interpretation of the term U si gni fi ca v` w 41 on of time site" be devoted to office use cannot` simply be compute she square footage. The appearance of the site is deceptive as it will take on much' more of the character of commercial than office. Mr. Imericl is not sure whether the intent of the Council will he met by the site plan. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that when the City was first formed they had General Plan public hearings. They indicated intersections like Baseline and Archibald should have no more than two commercial centers. Mr. Tolstoy stated that the Baseline-Archibald intersection is saturated with commercial and his initial feeling is the site in question should continue to be office. There may be a traffic problem ;if this was a commercial site because of the way the driveways are now configured. Commissioner Chitiea concurred with Commissioner Tolstoy°s comments regarding ;the intersection. The existing land use was designated for the office type use with the idea that the senior project behind would access to medical/dental type facilities, not the corporate headquarters type. Co issoner Chitiea is not in favor of making the General plan Amendment ent change. Commissioner Tolstoy further added while the caret study may have showed the City had too much office space already in place, this may not have been the 'kind of office spade that the office study identifies. There is a need for more office space in this section' of the community of a completely different character that the office spade that the marketing study shows Commissioner gl a esl ey concurred with all the previous comments. He felt <that developing this parcel as commercial` may cause a traffic problem where there is already a traffic problem. Looking north of this Planning Commission Minutes - September 23, 1987 k area onto ; 19th Street, there is more of the places where there are store-front offices in commercially zoned areas. Commissioner Blakesley felt that office is something that could be viable and he would not support the change. Commissioner Ererick agreed with the other comments and felt with the residential growth of the northern part of the City there could be more need for office use that cater to the residential consumers. Commissioner Emerick felt that the office designation should be kept. Chairman McNiel stated the concept of a mixed use is not all bad but this particular concept is not what the Commission is trying to establish. This General Plan Amendment directs the Commission to go from Office/Professional to Neighborhood Commercial ; possibly a part of this could be derided and office go into some and senior housing project be expanded; the entire plot of land need not go from one to commercial . Chairman McNiel was not sure whether this entire site should be office but also uncertain that any of it should be commercial . Commissioner Chitiea stated she was comfortable with the existing office designation because it does allow the appropriate balance of retail as opposed to commercial with office. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to deny the General plan Amendment and the Development District Amendment, Commissioner Chi tiea seconded the motion. Motion`carried by the following vote: AYES; COMMISSIONERS: TUCSTOY, CNITIEA, BLAKESLEY, E ERIC , MCNIEL NOES- COMMISSIONERS.* NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried H. ENVIRONMENTAL SESSILE AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 04C ARMANSOWDEVELOPMENTS�, INC.-- ,- A- request o amen are e Element o e enera from Flood Control and Medium Density Residential 8-14 dwelling units per acre) to Low-Medium Density Residential 4-8 dwelling units per acre);, located on the southwest corner of Banyan and Milliken - APN 201-271-55. ENVIRONMENTAL ES T AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT -C n app c on a en eve omen fs ricMap- rom Flood Control and Medium Density Residential 5-14 dwelling units per acre) to Low-Medium Residential (4 dwelling units per acre) for 65 acres of land, located on the west side of Milliken avenue, north of Highland Avenue - APN C 1-SS Planning Commission Minutes -6- September` 3, 1987 Milo gratt, Assistant Planner, presented; the staff. report. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the disposition of the small triangular piece next to the freeway. He felt this could be a good design element of the project. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, responded to the question stating this is flood control now and' have not received a response from the district stating t position. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Craig Page, representing Ahmanson Development, 2361 E1 Torro Road, l Torro, stated there was one correction of the staff report. He clarified they are proposing the minimum lot size as 700 square and not 7500 square feet as stated in the staff report. They are otherwise in agreement 'with the staff report and cannot respond to the question o the disposition of the triangular piece. Chairman Niel closed the public hearing. Commissione moved to approve the General ; Plan Amendment, Commissioner laesley seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following ;vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS,- TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, ENIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -'-carried Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the Development District Amendment, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, OAKESLEY, E ERIC , MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * carried I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT -040 - TAC ques o amen a enera an Land se MSp Low-Medium Residential ;4-8 dwelling units, per acre) to High Residential ) 4- 0 dwelling units per acre) for 5.05 acres of land, located on the south side of Base Line Road, west of Archibald - AP 00-031-18 19. Planning Commission Minutes - - September '23, 1987 ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-05 request o amen a eve opmen -stria-sap rum ow- e' ium Residential ( -N dwelling units per acre) to High Residential ( 4-30 dwelling units per acre) attached with the Senior Housing Overlay District (SHOD) to the base district for 5.05 acres of land, located on the south side of Base Line Road, west of Archibald Avenue - APN 0001-18, 1 . J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERALPLAN AMENDMENT H -04H - T C que o I'llamen a an Use omen o e mere an- RR—Low-Medium Residential (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to Office for 1.69 acres of land, located on the rest side of Archibald Avenue, south of Base Line Road - APN 08-0 1- , 54, 55 55 and 57. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-05 - ques o arsond Dist—rict_­Map rom ow- a rum Residential (4-8 dwelling units per acre) to Office Professional for 1.69 acres of land, located on the west side of Archibald Avenue;, south of Base Line Road - APN 03-01- , 54, 55, 5 , and 57. Otto Kroutil , Deputy; City, Planner, presented the combined staff reports. Chairman McNiel opened the Public hearing. r* Alan Dalmao, Pitassi-Dalmau Architects, 9190 Haven Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they feel they have met with staff recommendations and would lie Commission's comments to complete the process. r. Herman Reml , 9505 Rase Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he did have a problem with the senior housing but does have a problem with the office complex adjacent to the senior project if they are going to have a shared access. This will create traffic problems. He also stated his concerns with the office complex being on Archibald* Mr, Dave Peters, 7422 Archibald, Rancho Cucamonga, stated his property s next to this project and his primary concern is what type of water flow and flood control provisions are being pursued, r. Tim Mimmack, Civil Engineer for the project, verified that the drainage does exit `out onto Archibald Avenue. The property gently drains over toward Archibald and they don't anticipate any big difference in grade between their site and Mr. Peters' property, There could be a two foot difference in grade to accommodate driveways r. Pete Pitassi , Pi tassi-Dal tau Architects, 9190 Haven Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated regarding the grading they anticipated lowering the northern U-shaped building lower than Baseline; and then the middle portion of the project is 2 1/2 feet lower than that, and then the :southern U-shaped building an additional 2 1/2 feet lower than that. Planning Commission Minutes -8- September 23, 1987 Their grading analysis analysis indicates there would approximately two feet of fill that mould slope dower the property ;line and the drainage would be handled with either a swale or a retaining wall in addition to a garden wall that mould separate the project from the property to the south. The intended use is a medical office building, 25,000 square feet, and it is integral to the project as a whole and compliments each other. Traffic could pull into the property off Baseline and exit onto Archibald and it is the intent to link the project not only with pedestrian access but also with vehicular access. There will be a substantial grade point at the point too. ;Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated that the senior project is an appropriate one and the idea of having low rents available would be appropriate. A medical facility adjacent is appropriate also. The circulation through both projects is important to discuss. Responding to Mr. Rempel 's comments, she questioned whether ' pedestrian circulation is what the Commission is looking for or actually linking traffic through and what would be the repercussions of doing so. She would like to see more specific information regarding the water flow down Archibald at this location. Peters does have a legitimate concern as this would be a substanti of land draining onto his property. Conceptually, she likes the linking the two; projects in some manner. A senior project in this location might be appropriate. Commissioner Tol stoy stated the water situation mould have to be talon care of when they bring in the site plan for Design Review and thinks the senior project is a good one there. The surrounding retail centers are there to serve people who are not able to drive and feels this is a good use for this piece of property. He is concerned` with the General Plan Amendment which thanes residential property to the office designation. Chairman McNiel stated there are going to be many; more applications for senior projects. Associated with most senior projects, there will not be space for dical office and from his point-of-view, Commission should take a good look at what is being proposed. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Terry A. Christensen, TAC Development, stated that there is interest by area doctors to move into the medical office complex. He felt the seniors would do better entering and exiting on Baseline where the traffic is less. Mr. Herman Rempel , former Planning Commissioner, stated there is a need for some type of facility for people who need medical care. This driveway already back ups and so does the driveway on Archibald so that a left turn in to the project would be a problem'. A convalescent home is a 'good use to tie in with the senior housing project. I s. Wilma ` renner, speaking on behalf of area senior citizens, stated a convalescent home in this location would not be appropriate. She +Planning Commission Minutes - September 23, 1987 commented that a medical office complex adjacent is appropriate to the senior housing project. Senior citizens like something close they can wal k to and be close. More and more seniors' are moving out this direction from Los Angeles and Orange County since there are some more freedoms in this area. This facility would be great to have adjacent to the senior housing project. Commissioner Chi ti ea stated she would like to see this project continue and the possibility of working out some of the issues addressed in discussion. Commissioner Blakesley stated his concerns with the intensity of uses in this area, all of the commercial and the traffic. ` This project will see traffic problems, ingress and egress, no matter what direction it faces. The best use for this parcel , from a land use point-of-view, ;would be residential . Commissioner Tol stogy stated he could not support Item d since there is just too much office. Commissioner Emeridk questioned how many seniors could support the medical facility complex, and this particular intersection already has extremely heavy traffic congestion. He feels 'office generates more traffic congestion. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item I to the October 28, 198 meeting, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CNI°TIEA, N A ESLEY, EME ICK, MCNIEL, T LSTOY' ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NINE -carried Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item' d to the October 28, 1987 meeting, Chairman McNiel` seconded the motion. Motion carried ` by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, BLAKESLEY, TT LSTCY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: E ENICk ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Commissioner E erick clarified his no vote for the reasons stated in text. -carried Planning Commission Minutes 10 September 2 , 1987 9:00 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed 9:25 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened 9:25 P.M. In the absence of Chairman McNiel , Vice Chairman Chi tiea conducted the meeting. iI K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-09 C`TTY`_­OF__RANC14OF_CUC G-A - Xn___amen dmen t_to__­c­hi64e­ the eve eh DiRrict diis-1-4-5—ations ' f om the existing designations to Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan (F.S.P. ) for all properties adjacent to Foothill Boulevard from Grove Avenue to the Deer Creek Channel and from the 1-15 Freeway to East Avenue within the Foothil Boulevard Specific Plan area. Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Vice Chair itiea opened the public hearing. Since there were no public comments, Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS* EMERICK, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ASSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-14 - GREENVIEW e__de_veJ opmen t o f--14Y I mu 11 T t i---f am i Ty—UhTt son—TG-.T5_­at_i�e—s of—l'i—nd in the Medium Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Baker Avenue - AP N 207-201-30, 41, 42 and 43. Associated with the development is Tree Removal Permit 87-62 requesting the removal of' a number of trees scattered throughout the site. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13650 - GREENVIEW --real-denti-AT----su-bdi-Visions and-­-design—re-View of 140 B-wry-Wore units on 10.15 acres of land in the Medium Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Baker Avenue - APN 207-201-30, 41, 42 and 43. Associated with the development is Tree Removal Permit 87-62 requesting the removal of a number of trees scattered throughout the site. Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1987 toawnhome units on 10.15 acres of land in the Medium; Residential District (8-14 dwelling units; per acre), located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Baker Avenue - APN 07- 01- 0, 41, 42 and 43. Associated with the development is Tree Removal Permit 87-62 requesting the removal of a numbers of ' trees scattered throughout the site. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Vice 'Chai ' an Chitiea opened the public hearing. The applicant was not present. Commissioner E ` rice moved continuance to October 14, 1987. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned because of the projects proximity to Foothill Boulevard if there have been any noise study requirements. Mr. Murphy responded there was one done earlier and there were no mitigation based on the setback' of the units that seemed ' to be necessary.; Commissioner Tol stoy stated it would be better to al 1 o the trees to be removed and replaced' with an appropriate replacement. Commissioner Blakesl y seconded the motion to continue until October 14, 1987W Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: O I5 1 O ERSW EMER 101C,_BLAKFSLEY, CHIIEA, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL * --carried M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT `13541 - ALL MARK - The ve e oilmen o o com us su iviston on-4-1Wacres of Tand--in the Low Residential i tl stri ct 4"' dwelling�n units { s e acre located g_ � north of Red Hill ,n Cou try Club Dave at Serra Vista - APN_ 07-411- 1u, 07-080-01 and 48. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Ch tiea questioned if there was an emergency access located at the southern tip of Sierra Vista as redesigned. Mr. Murphy responded there was` not an emergency access. Commissioner Chitiea' questioned the length of Sierra Vista, Planning Commission Minutes -1 - September 23, 1987 . Murphy responded over 1200 feet. Vice Chairman Chitiea opened the public 'hearing, Mr. Tony Mize, representing Allmark, Inc. , the applicant, stated after going through the appeal process they were directed to redesign• There were a number of suggestions given at the Council level and later discussed them with a couple of the council members. In order to address the- main basis d the appeal , which was; stated i the appeal letter, ^efore, we respectfully request the City Council either to overrule tie Planning Commission decision or uphold the decision with the revised condition that Sierra Vista remain a closed while also providing emergency vehicle access." One of the suggestions was to bring Sierra Vista from Country Club Drive up to the existing dead end of Sierra Vista with a cul-de-sac and also having Sierra Vista from the north down to the south be a cul-de-sac. This would have given Allmark a split development with two lots; north of the cul-de-sac with those people coming one wary, two lots south with the other `people coming up Sierra Vista which theydidn't feel dealt with the question. There was a desire that this not be a four-way intersection. The access question had to be addressed. Presently the distance from Canino Sur to the present dead send is 1230 feet. By bringing the access through the alley two lots n. north, they reduce that distance b 80 foe and also it really �,�to es a through circulation which was one of the main concerns about the integrity of the development. This would have created at the very; south end two 'lots whose front ,yards were directly beside the back ,yards of Lot 12 and 13 which they did not feel was in any ray what they were trying ; to accomplish as to the marketability and value. This design backs up Lots 7 and 8 to the existing Lots 12 and 13, backyard to backyard. They feel they have addressed substantially all of the issues; they have closed off Sierra Vista and Country Club intersection and have provided the secondary emergency access through the alley system shortening the present distance of 1;30 feet by some 150 - 175 feet and creating totally through; circulation situation. Michelle Lindley, 8479 Camino Sur, staved she felt two issues were being overlooked that the City Council made clear the night they made their decision. 1) the aesthetics of the two communities coring together in one existing street. There are several problems that she feels would not work. The street is still only 20 feet wide paying to driveable surface that would run into that 35-40 of driveable space. Apparently, they are planning to just pint barricades at the ends of the sidewalks and whatever go into their neighborhood which has no curbs, no sidewalks, no street lights, anything of that nature. She felt this did not provide any aesthetic quality. 2) a hazard of those two streets joining each other, 36 feet going into 20 feet, this issue was greatly discussed at the City Council meeting. She; felt this is still hasn't been addressed at all and still feels this is a great hazard. ' Other than that the thoroughfare has been eliminated, she did not feel this was a plausible solution to the problem. Dr. Joseph A. powers, 8505 Country Club Drive, . stated he originally Planning Commission Minutes -13- September 23, 1987 objected to the through street and the lot between 13 and 12 was never meant to be a street and they felt that it shouldn't be, it would only create a hazard. Dr. Powers thinks the project looks very adequate and has addressed many of the problems and he is in accord for the project as it is. r. Lloyd Al rend, Division Chief Marshal of Foothill Fire Protection District stated two concerns with the project as it is now but felt they could be rectified if the developer is willing to work with there - 1 Emergency Access. Within the Foothill Fire Protection District, they have a legal ordinance, Ordinance , which stipulates that all emergency access routes must be a minimum of 26 feet wide.' The alley will not ++provide the required width to maneuver and negotiate their equipment if they use that route. The alley route may be shorter than going around and if it was widened to 26 feet, they may find this route may be used more than any other one and may be a real asset to all the residents in the area so far as emergency response. 2) Maintenance along the alley way;, there are large trees and vegetation' along there that would have to be maintained. It is his understanding that this would be some sort of a dedicated alley that the City would maintain, and if this was the case, then the problem would be resolved'. The trees would have to be maintained at a minimum height of 14' " in order for the apparatus to clear sufficiently. That problem now occurs at the vain entry of Monte Vista up to where the alley would turn and head doe north. If these problems were corrected, they could probably live with that as an emergency access. Commissioner Tolsto,y questioned if Red hill give were to be brought over to Sierra Vista between tots 5 and 5, would this not be a better solution. Chief Alma d stated this would eliminate two curv es and cut the response time down considerably_bl and would d b cu e a better solution Jessie Defrees, 8500 Red hill , tot 13, stated from his point-of-view this solution looks pretty good and feels this may' be the most practical solution for the property and supports the proposal , Mr. Steve 5ensenbach 7928 Sierra Vista, stated he has stated his strong opposition before and feels the developer has worked very diligently with the City and now has come up with a reasonable solution to this. He would like to see the project go forward with one reservation. This s a rural atmosphere and there are certain ordinances in town that require curb, gutter, and sidewalk., and other improvements. The only thing he is asking is keeping the rural atmosphere around Sierra Vista by lifting some of the restrictions. They would like to see the project go forward. Tom Lindley, 5479 Camino Sur, commented on Commissioner's Tolstoy remark in making Red Hill Drive going through to Sierra Vista. They would he Planning Commission Minutes - - September 23, 1987 more 'comfortable with what has been proposed by the 'developer rather than pushing Red Hill Drive straight through and make it more a straight line access and more appealing for people to use rather than what the developer has proposed. Mr, Tony Mize stated in talking with Brad Buller, City planner and Russ Maguire, City Engineer, the same ' issue about Red Hill Drive; going through to Sierra Vista ; was brought up. If it is punched straight through, it is more of a direct route with a little more speed. However the alley a4-' proposed is wide enough for fire truck. They had the two alternatives and they chose this one for the same reasons, 'Mr. Lindley mentioned. Commissioner Chitiea questioned the issue about the proposal that is 20 feet wide and Chief Almand needs 20 feet wide. Mr. Mize stated the existing pavement is 16 feet and they were directed to widen it to 20 feet and overlay the entire surface. Chief Almand is Mating that it is to be 26, so they would be adding ten ( 10) more feet and overlaying. Mr. Mize further stated they would be willing to do this. Ben Mackel Valley Vista, Lot 18, stated this should not be cul-de- sac'd and ; oughr to Red hill Country Club Drive for emergency access for a last response for sheriff and fire and coming through Lots and b definitely would give a faster response time. This is something that public safety should take precedence and he supports the alternative. Vice Chairman Ehitiea closed the public hearing. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the widths had been discussed at City Council on why 36 feet and they only had. 20 feet. The existing 20 feet of pavement right now is for the driving lanes; they do not park on that. They either park on the dirt or in a number of cases the property owners have added six - eight feet of pavement and they park on the pavement. The 36 foot width allows for 20 feet in the middle for the through lanes and 16 feet (8 feet on either side) for parking. The conclusion was really no decision on the Council to find incompatibility in the use of parking on both sides of the street with lanes up the middle as opposed to the existing street which you really cannot park on the pavement except in areas where the private property has widened the street in front of his. house. The ordinance clearly well ties them into 6 feet, curb and gutter', sidewalk, street lights, no option left to engineering nor the Council unless the ordinance was amended.. There was a discussion about a way to try to do something about the sidewalk and everyone agreed about curb and gutter for drainage and edge control but no body was willing to advance a code amendment to eliminate it from the code. Commissioner Tolstoy commented that City Council is sending this project back with the message that Sierra Vista was not to go through. Mr. Planning Commission Minutes _l September 23, 1987 Tolstoy felt there is two possible solutions. 1) Extend Red Hill Drive between Lots b and 6 to Sierra Vista and knuckle it there or leave the turnaround to try to disguise the fact that there is a through street there. The better solution i ) cul-de-sac Sierra Vista at the end of the existing tract and construct a new street from Red Hill Country Club Drive and cul-de-sac it against the previous cut -de-sac. This is' like a double cul-de-sac and this could be done with an offset through and turf blocking it or some treatment so it would not be obviously a through strut. The solution presented is not a good one. Commissioner Blakesley concurred with Commissioner Toi sto 's comments and has a particular problem with the fact that an access drive is created through backyards on the south side and on the: east. Mr. g1 akesl ey felt that punching the access through Lots 5 and C is not a bad solution and doesn't see it as a real hazard as far as creating some circulation pattern. Commissioner Tol stoy stated the only problem with this is that it does create a through street which the City Council felt was not a good idea. Commissioner Blakesley stated he still favors the; Planning ,Commission's original approval . Access could also be provided off Red Hill Country Club Drive on that same location which the street would have gone through to the cul-de-sac as proposed and this gives another way to come in. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested the :applicant go back and take a look at both alternatives. Mr. Tol stoy stated he has always felt a cul -de-sac as lung as this is a real problem„ Vice 'Chairperson Chi'tiea reopened the public hearing. r. Tony Mize >stated at the City Council session it was stated by the Council and the City Attorney the applicant had two choices: 1) have the reap denied and 'start all over again or ) return to the Planning Commission level and address one question and one question only, that being the basis of the appeal that Sierra Vista Drive s wr �k d not connect to Red Hill Country Club Drive. The applicant was to, ,it the Council Greeting that there was no other issue that would be- gscussed at the Planning Commission. They feel they have addressed all the issues and do not want to cut the development into pieces and that's what the suggestion that has been brought forward will do. Mr. Mize wanted a clarification, were they; misinformed at the City Council level as to what they were 'sent back to Planning Commission to do, Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated he did not know what exactly was stated at the Council meeting. What appears to be the case if the Council wished to retain 'jurisdiction over this whole matter, they could have simply continued the matter and sent it down for advisory opinion. In fact, they didn' t continue the matter and kicked down the entire matter back to Planning Commission, essentially denying the application without prejudice and without need to refilew This triggers Planning Commission Minutes -1 6- September 23, 1987 our own subdivision standards and grants the power again to this Commission to review or deny. Cyr. Mize questioned if he was incorrect in his assumption that there was one issue to be addressed and that was the basis of the appeal . Brad Buller, City Planner, recalled that the Council heard the appellants' concerns with a through street and directed staff to work with the applicant on alternatives, not necessarily one alternative, but alternatives to addressing their concerns they had with a through street. Mr. Buller stated he did not hear that the Council said no access whatsoever out onto Red Hill Country Club Drive. r. Mize questioned the Deputy City Attorney what the alternatives were, could they go 'back to the City Council as an alternative even; if it bounces them back to the planning Commission. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated they could go back.. to Council by way of an appeal . Mr. Ranson stated he could not see how the City Council has retained jurisdiction on this matter, this is 'a whole new appl icati or, `:'heir n laws of this body. Mr. Markman was granting the applied the benefit of having them back to Planning Commission with the application, If the Council had acted on the application that night, it would have been apparently been a denial that would have precluded the applicant coming back with any similar application for another ,year. Brad Buller, City Planner, in response to Mr. Mize and Commissioner col stdy, clarified the solution presented tonight was not shown at the City 'Council meeting. The only solution shown was a through street, however there was a concept (sketched out on the overhead) showing double cul-de-sac. Commissioner Emerick moved to close the public hearing. Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick felt the whop natter was under discussion as an entire tract, not just the street design whether it connects to Red Hill Country Club Drive. He would go along with the City Attorney, if the matter was kicked back to planning Commission we would have ,jurisdiction under the Subdivision Map Act to look at the entire effect, if they Council wants to reject all of the Planning Commission's opinions or decisions, they can choose to do so Commissioner Tolstoy stated since the City Council kicked it back to the Planning Commission with the direction that a through street would not be acceptable, he would assume that his first suggestion of extending Red Hill Drive through Lots S and 6 to the cul-de-sac would not really solve the problem. He suggested having a double cul-de-sac. Planning Commission Minutes -1 September 23, 198 i tip M :* is N . -" I . �',•" i M Commissioner Chi ti ea stated that when you add housing to an area, you are going to increase traffic from one direction or another. Ms. Citiea believed the best access would be to a straight access. Commissioner Rlakesley agreed with Commissioner hitiea's comments and feels that the best access is straight through from the south and making it a through street. The City Council said that it is not appropriate and this next best. i Co issioner Emerick stated in that respect, he would favor those people's rural ideals over public safety considerations and the Commission is speaking for people who are not even in there fret and this is a 'concern. people who are already are on Sierra Vista seem to choose to have seclusion and rural ideals as opposed to access by public safety vehicles, he presumed that the people buying in this now tract may also have the same feeling and this is a tradeoff. Commissioner Blakesley stated this is putting some kind of thoroughfare in their backyard and this is his objection. He has difficulty; seeing this is going to be heavily traveled roue as coming from southbound on Country Cl ,k rve and then going back northbound on Sierra Vista, this doesn't seem to be a short cut to anywhere, it's more like a' big -turn. Commissioner Imericl stated the more ,you make a straight route and you encourage shorter public safety trips, the more you encourage through traffic. if it is a morecircuitous route as shown on, the map, you are going to discourage through traffic and people making shortcuts. He believes the Commission needs to delineate the tradeoff. Commissioner Citiea stated the majority of the opinion is to cut it through and questioned if there was a way to work it into the resolution or achieve this properly.' Russ 'Maguire, City Engineer, clarified that Red Hill Drive and Monte Vista Drive are alleys. He suggested that a condition might' be to extend the current alley which goes from Chula Vista now up through the angle through to the cul-de-sac basically along the lot lines of 5 and of the alley and that it be a minimum of 26 feet as required by the Fire District. The other step to be taken is because the other northerly alley has to remain and it has to remain up to Lot 2 and is to require this portion of the alley be 20 feet in width with a proper designed turnaround in Lot 2. What the Coninission would be approving is the map amended to, take the 26 foot wide alley through along S and 6 and complete that width down to Chula Vista and the north-south dead end alley to 20 feet wide with an appropriately design turnaround basically t Lot 2. The Commission could adopt with that amending condition and o forward. Planning Commission Minutes -1,g- September 23, 1987 Commissioner Chi tiea stated if the Commission would approve this particular alternative, she would like to also add the comment that this is still not ideal planning. Ideally, that street should have gone through. The original solution to the problem, from a Planning standpoint, is the most appropriate one. r. Tony Elie stated the applicant understands exactly what the City Engineer has been saying by going back to the original 20 width hammerhead turnaround abutting the access to the Lot 1.0 which has been historical . This is not a problem.: r. Richard Avant, Vice President of All mark, clarified one of the concerns expressed by many of the individuals who live on that 'hill is to stop the ready access, ingress, busy traffic on that street where anyone might think that it is a through thoroughfare. It has been redesigned back to what they were directed not to do what this Commission triad to avoid, what Council has said not to do, and what the vocal majority of the people they having been trying to pacify said they should not do. This has been the eighth meeting on 12 lots and the applicant is willing to do whatever is the best design, willing to do whatever satisfies the community, trying to appease the Council , the Co mission, traffic, engineering, planning, fire and sheriff, and homeowners. If the design is changed once' more, it will be the 1th drawing. The applicant is trying to do it right and that's all they're trying to do. r. Tony; Mize stated they would like it approved with these modifications. Vice Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated everyone recognizes the applicant has a particularly difficult piece of property in n unusual location in the City which is, she hoped, not typical . Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve with the hammerhead design. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, C ITIEA NOES. E ERICK ABSENT: MCNIEL Commissioner Emerick clarified his no vote' for 'the reasons previously stated. --carried Planning Commission Minutes _ 0- September 23, 1987 N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13 - WILLI LION von cn acres n the Medium -14 dowelling units per acre) and$Medium-High 14-24 dwelling units per acre) Residential Districts within the Victoria planned Community, located at the northwest corner of Victoria perk Lane and Milliken Avenue - APN - 11-13 and 14. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff would recommend the item be continued i4ntil Council action on the requested Development District Amendment for the planned Community. Vice Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing. Commissioner Blakesley moved to continue to October 14, 1987, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES:: EO 1SSIONERS. BLA ESLEY, TOLSTOY, CHITIEA, EMERICK NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NIEL I --carried APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, carried, to approve the Minutes of duly 22, 198 with the correction on page 16 b Commissioner Blakesley. All voted` in favor,' Tol toy abstained, McNiel was absent. Motion.- Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, carried,' to approve the Minutes of August 1 , 1987 4s submitted. All voted in favor, Tol story abstained, McNiel was absent. Motion; Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, carried, to approve the Minutes of August 26, 1987 as submitted. All voted in favor, olstoy abstained, McNiel was absent. DIRECTOR'S, REPORTS : ,. . GENERAL PLAN UPDATES SCOPE OF WORK/WORK' PROGRAM Bruce Cook, Associate planner,; presented' the staff' report. Commissioner Tolstoy did not think the Work Program would provide enough weeks to do the project realistically. Planning. Comm ission on Minutes - 1- September 23, 1987 Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that with strictly administrative updating there `will be enough time to do so. The Planning Commission approved the proposed work program for administrative updates. P. REVIEW OF CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, FOR THE O P TO BE Karen McGuire-Emery, Associate Park' Planner, presented the staff report. Discussion was heard on adequate parking, shade provided for tot lots, promenades, trees, shrubbery, and ground' cover. The Planning Commission approved the conceptual design plans and to proceed to the October 7, 1987 City Council meeting. Q. COMMISSION EETINO OATEN Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the information stating, due to the holidays, meeting dates' would need to be decided for November and December 1987. Following discussion, the Commission decided to hold their regular meetings as follows: November '10, 1987 :00 p.m. November 25, 1987 4:00 p.m December 09, 1987 -00 p.m. December 23, 1987 Cancelled ADJOURWENT Commissioner Emerick roved to adjourn, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Action unanimously carried. 11:01 P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned. Respectfully submitted, /9W Brad Buller Deputy Secretary Planning Commission Minutes nines - September 23, 1987 l I CITE' OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 9, 1987 Chairman Carry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga '',", inning Commission to order at 7.00 p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Lane Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL CO I SIOHCRS; PRESENT: David B akesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emerick, Larry Miel , Peter Tolstoy COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior 1 Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Chris Westman, Assistant Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Tom Cahn, Assistant Planner; doe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer; and Karen Kissack, Punning Commission Secretary. ANNOUNCEMENTS 8'r—ad Buller, City Planner, stated the City Council heard public testimony September 8, 1987 on the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan. The Council will act on the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan on September 16, 1987. The workshop of the fast food standards will be held October 8, 1987. Regarding the agenda, Items 0 and 0 will be heard together, Items d and M will be heard together, as well as Items K and L. APPROVALIN 5 Motion: Moved by: Commissioner Tolstoy, seconded by Commissioner Chitiea, carried to approve the Minutes of July 08, 1987 as amended by Commissioner Chitiea. Planning Commission Minutes September 9, 1987 PUBLIC HEARINGS A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND; CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 - 8 e requesi or a as erOF to allow nes uppor ervices, onvenience Sales and Service, and food and Beverage Sales in Buildings 1,, , and B of an approved industrial business park, in the General Industrial District, Subarea 2, located on the south side of Arrow at Bear Gulch Place APN tag-Ol' ;19. (Continued from August S, 1987 Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Emerick requested clarification on a Master CUP-. s. Fong responded a Master CUP is a blanket conditional use permit and would eliminate one of the review processes that staff would have through the conditional use process. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Dana Sanders, representing Messenger Investment Company, 1691 '-A once en, City of Irvine, stated the history of development of Messenger in Rancho' Cucamonga and their intent for future development. He further stated that they are applying fora Master CUP for a portion of the park which totals less than seven percent of the total overall buildable square footage of the park. The reason for this request is the tenancies that would go in these smell spaces are more reactionary, and are not able to go through a gD day review process and what Messenger is trying to do is bring new tenants to the city or retain the ones already here in this size category. They are not trying to erode the Industrial Specific Plan but simply requesting a modification to the plan. r. Scott Peotter, representing Messenger Investment Company, addressed the issues of the mixed uses. They are looking for an opportunity to present a transition and suggested the proposed uses will provide actually less truck traffic in their 'subarea. The main` goal is to support the industrial area and provide a transition. They have the additional parking and feel the architectual frontage to Arrow Highway is well presented, Mr. Peotter stated a Master CUP would serve both the City and Messenger as well . Chairman McNiel' closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated the question is not just one of specific numbe rs, but theconcentration 'r_ _of retail use on a boulevard which is a dividing line between a residential and an industrial area. She was not sure whether retail' use as a transition is what was intended. By allowing the Master CUP this does not properly bring the individual uses before the public and does not retain the regulation through the public process. It would not be advisable from Commissioner Chitia`s viewpoint. Planning Commission Minutes - - September g, 1987 !I Commissioner Cmerick questioned when a prior Master CUP had been approved. I Chairman McNiel stated that Master CUP was on the Harmekian project and the distinction is that that project was not nearly as broad as Messenger and at that time there was concern on whether it had the potential of being a precedence-setting maneuver. i Commi ssi o, Nhi tiea stated the armaki an project was also a self- containedinward-type use as opposed to Messenger where this will be fronting onto grew with a retail face forward. Commissioner glakesley stated he could not see how this enhances the use in this area nor does it serve as an effective transition. He would not put any concentrated commercial in the area. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt a Master' CUP dilutes the intent of the general industrial district to have retail and the City`s ability to control what might be undesirable uses; Chairman Mr iel stated he could not support this odification either. The oher~ ioners agreed. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. Mr. Peotter stated, as the applicant, they would be willing to remove or adjust the other uses requests and have just the business support services and come back before+ the Commission on a case by ease if and when the tenants came about in the other two categories. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated if the application is denied, the applicant could not resubmit a similar application within twelve months. mother option is for the applicant to request a continuance and submit a modified request. Commissioner `col sto,y stated he disapproved of Master Conditional Use Permits. Commissioner Chitiea reiterated she, too, was uncomfortable with the Master CUP Chairman McNiel further stated his disapproval of blanket conditional use permit even' on limited basis. It would have to be on an individual basis through the standard process. Commissioner Emerick moved to deny the Master CUP and to direct staff to prepare a resolution for denial , Commissioner giakes ey seconded the motion. Motion carried by the 'following vote: Planning Commission Minutes -3- September 9, 1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHIT'IEA, MCNIEL, TOSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87- 1 NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH - A request to ess , square -foot urc'h- -in an existing business park, located at the southwest corner of Arrow Highway and Archibald Avenue in the General Industrial District, Subarea 3 - APN 09-01- 40. Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Pastor Duane Merrill , representing Neighborhood Church, stated he concurs with the staff report. He asked for clarification of the occupancy load of SQ people. Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated this figure is standard condition for church activities in 'industrial parks. Reviewing the condition, the number SO applies to daytime` hours, Monday through Friday. The only time the applicant could have more people would be weekends and week nights. Chairman McNiel closed the public nearing® Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner lakesley seconded the motion* Motion was carded by the following vote:' AYES COMMISSIONERS:ERS:_ TOLSTOY BLAK_ESLEY CHIT'I EA EMERIC a _ CNIEL 'i NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * --carried C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 95.� - r'gNes q y'' an existing a owing -ambulances o park in two existing employee designated parking stalls in an existing commercial ;center in the ne General Commercial District located on the he north side of Foothill Boulevard, east of Red Hill Country Club Drive APN 07 101-17. I Planning Commission Minutes -4- September g, 1987 Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. The applicant was not present. Chairman cNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt this was more than just a question of parking another ambulance on this site. This is located on the very edge of Rancho Cucamonga, eight seconds from Upland and are having trouble meeting the 10 minutes response time in the City. She felt it would be appropriate to relocate the second ambulance in a location within the City that is more likely to save lives. She stated that if there are two ambulances at this location, it means that one is not at a location where it might be put to better use. Chairman cNiel questioned if the applicant was bringing on another vehicle. Mr. Westman stated they were only allowed to have one ambulance space and two spaces for people manning the station, so it would be an additional ambulance to that site. The first ambulance is on 24 hours whereas the second would be a 12 hour backup vehicle. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the Conditional Use Permit Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * * * * * --carried D. VARIANCE 87-12 - BAIRES-HAIR - A request to eliminate the required fi­ve(5) ' foof" bull ding-s-etbatk in conjunction with the proposal to construct two multi-tenant industrial buildings in the General Industrial District, Subarea 3. located at the northwest corner of Helms and Fe,ron - APN 209-031-57. Related file: DR 87-30. 0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-30 - JUAN BAIRES- mque_st-t6- cons-fr-u-ci-fw—o-#UTti---ten—ant-l—n-d-u-s-T-r"i-al- -Yul-7fin—gs To-CaTing 30,502 square feet on 1.8 acres of land in the General Industrial District, Subarea 3, located at the northwest corner of Helms Avenue and Feron Boulevard - APN 209-031-57. Chris West an, Assistant Planner, presented the combined staff reports. Planning Commission Minutes -5- September 9, 1987 Commissioner glakesley questioned Mr. Westran regarding the driveway placement} He did not like the way they appeared on the diagram with the two of them is such close proximity. r West man stated that the recommendation_ from_ the Design Review Committee was to, if possible, eliminate one of the driveways and still provide for the technical requirements for access. Brad Huller, City Planner, stated one other option for the Commission to consider might be to turf block one drive as an emergency access Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. . Chris Crissada, 2055 South Baker, Ontario,, representing Western Stags Development, concurred with the staff 'report. Commissioner Tolstoy stated in regards to the variance his concern with the building directly behind this; project is V 6" approximately from the property line and this building would be right on the property line. He recommended that this gap be closed at both ends of the building especially since this was in an industrial area. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the variance could be approved with the condition that the applicant show a good faith effort in 'working with the property owner to the north of the project for the closure of the 18 inch gap between the two properties. Staff would work with the two property owners to ensure this would'! happen. Commissioner Chitiea stated she agreed with the variance. She addressed the issue of texture in the development review stating the possibility of leaving texture out of the lower half of the building might detract from the building design element. She suggested that the lower half of the building should have a change in color and texture on the three visible sides. Commissioner Blakesley Mated he liked the idea of closing off the driveway and turfing it in. Commissioner Emerick suggested moving the short driveway to the center and turf it giving some symmetry in the landscaping scheme and it would still be used for emergency vehicle access and it would eliminate the driveway being too close to the intersection. arryee Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, suggested eliminating the southern most driveway and place an emergency access driveway only on Feron Street in 'line with the center drive aisle for the parking lot. Chairman McNiel questioned the applicant if the suggestions of the Commission were reasonable and acceptable. r. Crissada stated he concurred with the suggestions. Chairman McHiel closed the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes - - September g, 1987 Commissioner Emerick moved to approve of the variance with the added conditions of closure of the 18 inch gap between the buildings on the north property line and architectual treatment on three sides of Building B instead of four. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the design review with the access changes and the modified condition tote Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: CO I`SSIO ERS: < CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried E. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-35 - WILLIE AND PIE PIZZA PARLOUR - A eo-ilue-st- for the es sTi,ififfiint of an area_dd--- M5 P existing restaurant located in the Neighborhood Commercial District at 6321 Haven Avenue, Suite 1 - APN 201-271-69. Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. The applicant was not present. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the Conditional Use Permit, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * * * * * --carried Planning Commission Minutes -7- September 9, 1987 F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1 727 - CIA SSENS A residentiaT subdivision o single amr y lots a 3751 acres of land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Carnelian Street and Highland Avenue - APN 201-214-11. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, stated staff requests continuance to e mba S pte r_2 , 1987. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue this item to September 23, 1987, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote,' AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TQLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL; NINES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE - carried G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 87-02 WILLIAM reques ange a T'and use an tong g esigna ions rom Me ium (4-14 dwelling units Per acre) andMedium- High (14-24 dwelling units per acre) Residential to Low diem Residential (4 8 dwelling units per are) for a 24.67 ' acre parcel within the Victoria Planned Community, located t the northwest corner of Victoria Park Lane and Milliken Avenue - APN 202-211-1 and 1 . Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Stephen Ford, representative of the William Lyon Company, stated the staff's concern seems to be whether or not this project addresses the intent of the plan. One of the intents of the community plan is to provide a variety of housing in the Groves Village. Victoria Groves, to date, has not only met the provisions of the original community plan, it has exceeded it and the amount of common open space dedicated to the public for their use. This particular tract that would be involved i n the plan change amendment would finish a large portion of Milliken Avenue from Victoria Park to Highland which is a very important piece of infrastructure The other portion of the intended community plan is the provision of homes that meet "the demand of the housing market" . They feel this is a very integral and vital portion of the intent of the community ;plan and this proposal on this site does meet the intent, it greets the demands of the housing market. They have a strong desire to complete the Groves Village as quickly as possible, at least the Planning Commission Minutes - - September•~ g, 198 residential development. The proposal is consistent with the intent of the community plan and request the Planning Commission's recommendation of approval to City Council , Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick stated he supported staff's recommendation to keep multiple family in place. Commissioner Tolstor stated one of the features of Victoria is the different degrees of density providing housing affordable to people working in the 'industrial area. Commissioner Blakesley Mated this is an excellent location for the mixed density and he finds no compelling; reason to support the change. Commissioner Chi ti ea felt that balance was the key word.. It is important to retain some diversity to create neighborhoods that are well balanced. She felt that the _location in addition to the commercial to the north is very well designed the way it is. Chairman McNiel stated he concurs with the comments. Chairman McNiel; opened the public hearing. Mr. Ford stated there was a slight misconception that a condominium or townhouse project built on this site would be more affordable than single family that currently exists in The Groves. Townhouses or I condominiums cannot be built to be competitively priced in the Rancho Cucamonga area. This will continue to exist based on what is happening not only in Rancho Cucamonga but what is happening in 'other areas outside the city. Commissioner Emerick moved to deny, the request to change the land use designation from Medium' and Medium-High Residential to Low-Medium Residential located at the northwest corner of Victoria Park Lane and Milliken Avenue. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote; AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL, TOLST Y' NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: EQ I SIO ERS: NONE t was clarified the reason for denial was the finding it was inconsistent with the goals and intent of the Victoria Plan and the goals of the General Plan. * * --carried Manning Commission Minutes -9- September g, 1987 H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8711 - SH ITO C ' - eve opmen en apar Ff uni on acres o an in the Medium Residential District ( -14 dwelling units per acre), located on the north side of 19th Street;, east of 'Hellman Avenue APN -474-07. Associated with this development is Tree Removal Permit 87- 3. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. , r. Yamamoto, representing the Sumitomo -development, stated they accept the staff report and the conditions of the resolution. r. Merritt Reeves, 61`4 Moonstone, Alta Loma, stated his concern regarding the high density housing. His concerns also included acute water' shortage, traffic, zoning on the north side of 19th and the population; growth of Rancho Cucamonga in the past four to five years. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick stated he would like to see a swimming pool eventually_ happen. He would also like to see careful landscape treatment done around the staggered garage designed unit. Commissioner Chi ti ea commented this project t is bung developed for the employees of Sumitomo and a swimming pool was not required but in other developments there are other amenities i such as swimming pools,' spas, etc. and felt this may be an exception. Chairman McNiel agreed with Commissioner Chit e 's comments; however, he was uncertain whether~ it was required on a project this small . Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated the Development Code requires that some type of recreational amenity, i .e. ,Jacuzzi , basketball court, volleyball court, swimming pool ,_ or spas, In this instance, the applicant has opted for a' putting green with the option of putting in a swimming pool later. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated most developments larger than this include pools or spas as marketing amenities. Commissioner Emeick moved approval with the additions of landscaping, Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote} AYES: ; COMMISSIONERS: E ERICK, TOLST Y, ELAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE BET: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried Planning Commission Minutes -10- September g, 1987 I ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13359 - WALTON - A ustom o subdivisf5­0f 3.79 acres intosiM parce s 5 a he Very Low Density Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre), located can the east side of Sapphire Street, south of Hillside Road - APN 1061-691-9, 10 and 11. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. rr. Bill Smelzer, Engineering Consultant, 316 E "E" Street, Ontario, stated everything had been brought to a conclusion except the "requirement of the 15 foot offered dedication south of the property. This is a fairly small project and to lose a lot would jeopardize their economic viability. The trail , if dedicated, will absorb and take away from the project about 6700 square feet over six lots shy of the 22,500. This is a minor deviation; however, if they could cco odate the trail in some other fashion rather than: lose a lot, they would be open for suggestions. They feel that requiring this to be a dedicated trail is too excessive. He 'also stated that if too' much area is provided for trail use that certain people start using it as a dumping ground. If there is some way to provide the trail without losing the lot, provide it in some private fashion, or if there was some agreement to dedicate to the City at some time in the future, they could come to terms with that. Per. Cron Miller, potential buyer of the property, stated the dedication problem is a problem also for him resulting in an unfeasible` project. Chairman Mo i el closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick stated projects are feasible if the landowner adjusts his costs downwards to reflect what the ideals of the community call ;for on a specific parcel . he could not support the project as it is because it does not meet with the zoning code. Commissioner Chitiea' tated it was important to go forth with the trail plan+ If there was some method to allow the project to keep the six lots and keep the trail , she would support this idea. Findings could be based on the adjacent property, above and below, because it is possible that those lot sizes are within or slightly below the range that has been ;proposed. It is essential to retain the trail and she would like o see what alternatives to reaching the solution are. Commissioner hitiea stated they are trying to promote a community wide trail east to west. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing; r. Smelzer, Engineering Consultant, stated his consent to a one month continuance for a variance. Planning Commission Minutes -11- September g, 198 Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue to October 14, 1987, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERI K, B AKESLEY, MCNIEL, TCILSTDY DES;:; COMMISSIONERS: NONE ASSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried J. MODIFICATION TO TENTATIVE TRACT 1 659 SECURITY MANAGEMENT - A request o del e e condi tiohs approve qu ring ns a on of bleachers and an announcers stand within the equestrian lot of residential subdivision of 15 single family and three common lots on 57.57 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District (1`- dwelling units per acre) within the Etiwanda Specific Plan, located at the southwest corner of Etiwanda Avenue and 24th Street - APN 5-D1`1- 5 s M. TENTATIVE TRACT 12659 DESIGN REVIEW - SECURITY MANAGEMENT - Design eV1ew of buildin-g-ele"ti6fii an PIR pans f6F a previously approved tact map consisting of 15 single single family lots and common lots on 5 .67 ages of land in the Very Low Density Residential District (1-2 dwelling units per acre) within the Etiwanda Specific Plan, located at the southwest corner of Etiwanda Avenue and ' 4th Street - A N 5-011- 5, Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the combined staff reports r. Gary Mitchell , 9330 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, Planning and Engineering Consultants for this project, addressed the modifications to the conditions requested and the additional conditions required or recommended by staff, They felt the range< of potential uses of the equestrian center lead to the 'concern of the lack of parking, liability for the bleachers and the provision of a pad and utilities for the announcers' booth. He pointed out that this project was approved prior to the Ei ty's own planning program resulting in an outstanding recreational and equestrian recreational facility in Heritage Park. Therefore, when this project was originally 'proposed and considered by the Commission, there was some thought this equestrian facility might be used for community equestrian events. Mr, Mitchell does not believe this will be the primary use for this facility since he feels it will be used as a neighborhood project oriented on-site recreational facility. In regards' to the utility line relocation, this site does not border the south side of 24th Street, The Etiwanda Specific Plan does require a '85 foot wide landscaped buffered strip along the south side of 24th Street; this area is currently owned in fee title by the Metropolitan Water District and the district has never approved or granted their permission to encroach within this area. If this property was developed by MWD, Manning Commission Minutes -1 ® September g, '1987 i they would be responsible for the undergrounding of the small existing overhead utility lines at this site. Therefore, they feel the requirement for undergrounding the lines should be deleted by the Commission for the fact that it is not within their property boundaries. In addition, in regards to the provision of the landscaping along the south side of 24th Street, they are proposing to accomplish the special community entry statement. They are concerned over the timing of their receiving permission from the MWD to encroach into their property and would suggest` consideration should the encroachment permission from the MWD be withheld. Perhaps a performance bond or guarantee would be suitable for the ultimate provision for the facility. r. Pete Pitassi, representing Pitasi-Dalmau, stating they have responded to the architectual palate for the Etiwanda area and have incorporated a number of items suggested in the Ctiwanda Plan. They feel the design of the units is appropriate for the area. In response to the issue of porches, they have designed in the two-story units extended front overhang areas with columns which ``could be designed for porches if desired by the homeowners. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated the changes from the Trails Committee should be process a and recorded concurrently with the map with prior approval of the Trails Committee. In regard to the bleachers, she felt it would be appropriate to have low-rise type units to give people some elevation to see into the arena. With respect to the announcers booth, something j that would provide simple shelter and possibility for food and drink sales would be recommended. She also is concerned that the equestrian of be held in common for equestrian use in perpetuity. She requests the City be made party to the covenant and ; restrictions for Lot A so that in time if a particular group of people decide they do not like horses cannot change the use. She would like protection for all the people who buy into this development that this will be the use. Mr. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated one of the conditions requires the improvements be completed prior to the release of occupancy f the dwelling. As for maintaining them as equestrian areas, there will have the approved site plan and the added condition that the arena area shall be maintained for equestrian purposes and shall be maintained by the homeowners association. At that point, the CCRs for this community. Commissioner Chitiea was concerned about the use being dropped. She would like to have some assurance for the _City that the use will be maintained` since this particular development' was given certain density bonuses in exchange ;for allowing of a centralized equestrian lot. This deviation to the equestrian overlay area of Ctiwanda must maintain the rural concept. Planning Commission Minutes - '- September 9, 1987 Commissioner Tol stoy stated he would like to see a couple of the elevations include porches to comply with one of the elements of the Etiwanda Specific plan and a fine marketing point. Chairman McNiel expressed his support for the low-rise bleachers and addressed the need for a announcers/refreshment facility. Commissioner Tdl stoy supported the need for provisions for a refreshment facility with shelter/shade. Barrye Hanson Senior Civil Engineer, stated in regards to underrounding this is like a standard street improvement. e seated the applicant is going to do the street and therefore they would do the utilities like any other project. If these utilities were in a flood control right-of-way or a railroad right-of-way, adjacent projects are required to underground those. All the general theories lead to the undergrounding of the utilities. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that state law protects the developer when improving on an off-site or lands he doesn't control . There is a law which basically gets the developer an out. In addition, cash sureties can be placed in order for occupancy for landscaping with MWD. Commissioner Tol stoy stated some type of verbiage should be included to protect the developer from the delay of the agency. Commissioner Ohitiea moved to approve the project with the modifications regarding Project A, recordation of final changes on Lot A and the inclusion of low-rise bleachers. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote* AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA TOLSTCY BLAKESLEY EMERIEK MC IEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS.- NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Item M - Commissioner Tolstoy moved to approve the project with the amendment of porches on two elevations and that they be approved by the City planner, Commissioner Ohitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLS OY, ChITIEA, RL.AkESLEY, ChITIEA, EMER C NOES* COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE' -carried Planning Commission Minutes -14- September g, 1987 10:4 - Planning Commission Recessed 11:00 - Planning Commission Reconvened K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10782 J. BER A T DEVELOPMENT . su a vi si on of acres of 11hdi pares 1n e general Industrial District, Subarea located at the southeast corner of Rochester Avenue and Arrow Route - APN 229- 121-19, 2326. Related File: DR 87-26. L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-26 J. BERMANT 0EYE[5PMENT-T0-.-----A developmeRtU i3 in us ria n� ings totaling '51U,4Z5 square feet on 29.4 acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea S) located on the southeast corner of Arrow Route and Rochester Avenue - APN 229-12 -19, 23-26. In addition, the applicant is requesting Tree Removal Permit 87-58. Related File: Tentative Parcel Map '1 782. Debra Meier, Associate Planner and Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the combined staff reports. Commissioner Chitiea questioned if there were pedestrian connections to the lunch areas. z Ms. Meier; stated this was something that was talked about with the 1 applicant on several occasions and a solution did not present itself. The applicant would be willing to do something on the order' of striping delineating a path but a solution did not appear for a 'textured pavement arrangement throughout the entire project. Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, added the street improvements including the private drive would be completed prior to the recordation of the final map. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Andy Miner, Development Planner for the J. Re ant Development Company, stated this development will be in a gateway or entry at Arrow Highway and Rochester Avenue. Mr. Miner stated that in the Resolution, d the word "not" should be added then stating "That the proposed use, together with the conditions applicable thereto, will not be detrimental to the public health, safety, or welfare, or materially injurious to properties or improvements in the vicinity." The only exception to the conditions is the landscaping along the freeway right-of-way, Planning Division conditions, item viii. This condition came after the Design Review Committee leaving a short time frame for the; applicant. Mr. Miner detailed the condition and felt there was al of of uncertainty 'i n the this condition since it is tied to Cal Trans landscape criteria which has not been prepared. The 'City will probably do the maintenance of Planning Commission Minutes -15- September 9, '19 7 this landscape maintenance district. Mr. Miner does understand what the City is trying to do, they want to improve the image along the freeway where the majority of the industrial uses are which is a good concern. They do agree with the staff report and all of the other conditions within it. Mr, Bob Burnett, part owner of the property, concurred with Nor. Miner's comments. He stated that the freeway landscaping; issue was made aware to them the week prior and they understand the city's goal but believed :this particular condition needs to have a broader look which may be addressed by the Redevelopment Agency. Mr. Jeff Schloesser, representing Schloesser Forge, stated the vibration from his company to the large amount of glass might present a distraction or problem. He stated that in a tiro-story building the vibration 'i s quite noticeable in his building and the second floor is supported by a long beam which acts as a bow for the vibrations. In addition, Per. Schloesser believed in ; the agreement of the 4 -year agreement with the City citing the clause with the respect to notification to prospective tenants and was unsure if the new owners were aware of this. Schloesser Forge will be doing construction directly across< the street from this development in a similar time frame and there will be undergrounding being done. he felt if some of the undergroundi ng could be done concurrently, there could be some savings to both owners of the properties. He felt Mr. Burnett was not completely aware of the operation of Schloesser Forge and its impacts, Mr. Miner clarified that these buildings are one-story buildings and the glass is mainly' for an architectual` impact and not vision glass. arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, clarified the statement regarding the developer would be eligible for one-half- of the cast reimbursement from across the street which is not true. There are utilities on both sides of the street so the developer would be eligible for a partial reimbursement but not one-half' as stated in the staff report. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Chairman McNiel commented that landscaping along the freeway is alot like undergrounding it should be done but the timing is not always ours to control . Brad Buller, City Planner, stated as far as Redevelopment assistance, Redevelopment dollars have not been placed nor considered for use for freeway landscaping. Commissioner Emerick suggested that landscaping be installed prior to release of occupancy for the final building of the project, a substitute such as in-lieu fees, a cash bond, or sureties could be used if it can not be worked out prior to occupancy. Mr. Emerick also was concerned with the landscaping with the part of the building' facing the freeway. Planning o i ssi on Minutes -16- September g, 1987 Ralph Hanson, 'Deputy City Attorney, suggested a cash bored could be implemented if the landscaping is not installed by the time of the certificate of occupancy. Chairman McNiel stated the site-line view from the freeway this could not be seen. Commissioner Chitiea stated shifting the burden to the Redevelopment Agency is not realistic with all the projects. Commissioner Tolstoy stated the freeway should present a good image of the Ci ty. Chairman MNiel opened the public hearing. i Mr. Miner suggested the additional landscaping be put in now and they agree to do some trees along the right-of-way. Will the City be able to work something out with Cal Trans and the City maintain it Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the only way it is going to go in is if the governmental agency guarantees CalTrans that they will maintain it for the nest; twenty years. Commissioner, Utitiea moved to approve Item L with the modifications including the language if the landscape was not installed, some type o cash bond shall be placed. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, TCLSTOY, B .A ESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL' NOES. COMMISSIONERS.- NONE' ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE' Item K # Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the Tentative Parcel Map, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERIC ,, BLA ESLEY, MCNIE , TCLSTQY NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * it --carried N. APPEAL OF TREE REMOVAL PERMIT ' 8 -4 - Appeal of staff#s decision enyn e remove o eleven ucalyptus trees located in the roar yard of 9538 Gala Avenue - APN C - 1,1-b9. Planning Commission Minutes -17- September 9, 1987 Commissioner Tolstoy, because of a long-time association with the applicant, asked permission to abstain and was absent from the public hearing. Tom 8rahn Assistant Planner, +presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. and Mrs. Ronald Bencomo, 9538 Gala Avenue, Alta l oma, appellants, stated the trees restrict the use of the back yard and maintaining a lawn °i s quite difficult. Mr. Rencomo addressed his concerns relating to issues of obtaining usable land for the backyard, having a swimming pool built, the size of the ,yard to warrant so many trees, and future wind protection. Mr. Carl Sartaa, neighbor of the Bencomo's stated his support of the tree removal . Chairman Mc Niel closed the public hearing. Chairman McNiel stated the tree ordinance is for ;the protection; of all trees to 'preserve the rural character of Rancho Cucamonga. Certain conditions are placed upon developers to replace trees to maintain the character of the City. The object is to attempt to preserve some; of the things that makes Rancho Cucamonga what it is, a nicer place to live. He stated they didn't want to lose the concept of the windrow. There may be a possibility of removing a tree or two. Commissioner Blakesley stated he concurred with Chairman McNiel and felt removal of one or two of the trees would be permissible. Commissioner Emerick stated he was impressed by the fact that the back yard was small upon' his inspection and felt that forcing trees in the backyard of small lots would have to have second consideration, He thought that the lot was too small to accommodate a windrow of Eucalyptus trees and the trees did interfere with the the intended use of the backyard, including a swimming pool . These trees grown to bG 80 - feet in height and would impede the view and sunlight in the yard. Mrs. Bencomo stated she felt the removal of two to three trees would not make a great deal of difference. They would like to see all of the trees removed. Commissioner Chitiea stated since the appellant was not in agreement with working with staff for a small number of trees being removed, Ms. Chi tiea agreed an integrity of windrows mush be maintained. The reason the flood control area went in where it did was to protect the homes so the developer could develop the tract. That's why the windrows came out initially* The trees are there for the visual effect to maintain the character of the City. Planning Commission Minutes -18- September g, 1987 Mrs. Benco o stated she felt that the situation could be more easily assessed if the Commissioners could actually see it and felt since no one has seen it, their request has not been,,taken into serious consideration. Commissioner Bl akesley moved to deny the appeal , Commissioner Chi tiea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the fallowing vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTOY Commissioner Emerick clarified his "Abstain' vote for the reasons previously stated. --carried 'I DIRECTOR'S RFPMT P. HIGH RISE ORDINANCE FOOTHILL FIRE DISTRICT Chief Lloyd Almand of the Foothill Fire District presented a slide demonstration and how the Ordinance might affect site development and architects Q. ANTENNA STUDYyN -HB WORK PROGRAM Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report. After discussion, the Planning Commission agreed with the scope of work and recommended a low priority IV. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstby, unanimously carried, ;to adjourn. Planning Commission Adjourned - I.-25 a.m. Planning Commission Minutes _19- September g, 1987 Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Deputy Secretary i i Planning Commission Minutes - 0'- September 9, 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES '' Regular Meeting August 26, 1987 Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7':OU p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the; pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Bla esley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emeri E, Larry McNiel ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT* Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; Clancy Fong, Associate Banner; Greg Gage, Assistant Planner, Barre Hansen, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, Alan Warren, Associate Planner, Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, and Karen KisscK, Planning Commission Secretary MKOUNCEWNTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that Item B under Public Hearing being requested by applicant for continuance to September 9, 19 meeting and Item F be continued for one month to the September 23, 1987 meeting. r. Buller, also announced the 'City Council set up ;a special meeting for the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan continued public hearing for September 8, 19 . CONSENTCALENDAR A. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT 87- 55 - CISNEROS - A Resolution approving an appea o al-T—owchila6iFffi c wises n a single family residence at 10736 Sundance Drive. (Continued from August 12, 1987) Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the Consent Calend ar,s Commissioner Blake le seconded the motion. Motion was carried 'b� the fo llowing vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTCY Commissioner Emerick clarified his `no vote for reasons stated before in the August 12, 1987 Planning Commission Meeting. --carried PUBLIC HEARING B. ENVIRONMENTAL SESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 -28 _ MESSENGER reques dr a as e o a Business Support ervi es, Convenience Sales and Services, and Food and Beverage Sales in Buildings 1 2, and 3 of an approved industrial business park, in the General Industrial' district,' Subarea 2, located ;on the south side of Arrow, at Bear Gulch Place - APN 209 C1 -19. (Continued from August 12, 1987 Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item to the September 9, 1987 Ming. Commissioner Bl kesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: ` YES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NINE, ;ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TCLSTCY * *`* --carried F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT 7-01 - CITY n amen e too ' 'SeZ tions are 17.06.02G(c) of the Development Code pertaining to the definition of and review process for state mandated recycling facilities. Commissioner Blakesley moved to continue Item F to the September 23, 1987 meeting. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: YES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAK SLEY CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * * * * -`-carried Planning Commission Minutes -2- August 26, 1987 C. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN o FiVie_w an on a er a r0dommen atio—n—T—orceFtifizition of the Draft Environmental Impact Report for the Foothill Specific Plan and General Plan Amendment No. -O B project. The Specific Plan consists of detailed land use regulations and standards for the development along Foothill Boulevard between Grove Avenue and Haven Avenue, between the I- S Freeway and East Avenue. O. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN ENDMENT By B - CITY OF toques o a n a an -O Use MA5 6f thi ener an E5 reflect land use changes proposed by the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan (Continued from July 22, I987) . Alan Warren presented the staff report. Mr. Warren submitted a memorandum regarding Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan and General Plan Amendment EIR` Comments and Responses which he outlined for the Commission. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Since there were no public comments, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Cnitiea commented she; had some personal reservations about changing of the Medium Residential to Commercial on the Resolution, Item D. Commissioner Chi ti ea moved to approve the resolution on Item , Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion* Motion carried by the following vote:: AYES: CO I'SSIONERS: CHT'IEA, 'BLAKE' LEY, EMtERIC , MCNIEL NOES: CO ISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * --carried Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution on Item Q, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the notion. Motion carried by the following 'vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKE'SLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE, ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * --carried Planning Commission Minutes - - August 26, 1987 E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 1 271 - LEWIS HOMES eve I op I ment of a riiiaifltiil s4tidivisiH o -acre s within the Medium ( -14 dwelling units per acre) land use designation of the Terra; Vista Planned Community into townhouse condominium units on a single parcel located at the northwest corner of Terra Vista Parkway and Milliken - APN 1077-091-29. Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Rick Gomez, representing Lewis Homes, stated they concur with the findings of the staff report and accept the conditions of the resolution. Chairman McNiel 'closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chi tiea noted the many changes grade through Design Review process and supports the project. Co issioner Emerick moved the approval of the resolution with the addition of parkway landscape, Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote* AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMER C , CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS.* NONE ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY carried G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13644 - ;NORDIC - A re s en i a subdivision- and design review o s1 ng a ami y lots on 15 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Hermosa Avenue and Vista Grove Street - APN 201-101-06 OS, 11, 28 and 29. Associated with the tract is Tree Removal Permit 87-29 requesting the removal of one east-west windrow and selected trees from two other east-west windrows. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. slam Knudsen, representing Nordic, stated they accept the findings of the staff report. Chairman M Niel closed the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes - - August 26, 1987 Chairman McNiel; questioned Mr. Murphy regarding the windrows coming down I and being replaced with comparable landscaping. Mr. Murphy verified the applicant is only removing selected trees along the south tract boundary that weld conflict with proposed equestrian trail improvements. Along the central windrow, it was recommended by the Design Review Committee that this windrow be removed due to the close proximity to the units. Originally, the applicant was proposing to remove those trees in direct conflict with the building paths and street improvements. As a replacement, Design Review Committee recommended that a windrow be required along Hermosa Avenue Along the north tract boundary, there would be removal of selected trees that are in line with driveways, this bung a, mini` um of trees. Chairman McNiel questioned the health status of the trees. r. Murphy stated the arborist's report indicates that most of the trees are in good condition not identifying any major problems. Commissioner Chitiea questioned the eastern tract boundary, Mr. Murphy responded there was not any proposal for the trees to be removed. When the Trails Committee reviewed this, they decided to put a 12 foot trail on the west side of the trees. There has been no indication that the applicant is proposing to remove those gees at this time. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. r. Knudson, in response to Chairman McNiel 's question of the tree removal , stated they are in agreement with the arborist`s report to save as many trees as possible. r, hank Manger, representing Nordic Development, stated there would be o problem to removing the trees and replanting them on the east tract boundary. They would like to keep the trees along Vista Grove and also on the north, if possible. Commissioner Chitiea felt it would make a better transition to leave the trees on the north property and finds this acceptable. The trees on the east tract boundary are on the outside of the trail leaving less I liability and requiring more maintenance. She suggested the trees should be in the back ,yard and not in the trail easement. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated it might be appropriate to put as one of the conditions that a landscape easement would be required to provide cut outs in order to get some additional 'landscaping. Commissioner Chitiea staters that Trails Committee had wanted this trail to match The Woods north of the property. Planning Commission Minutes - - August 26, 1987 Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea stated the Trails, Committee would like consistency in terms of landscaping and design. Commissioner Chi tiea moved to approve the resolution as modified regarding the trees and the trails. Commissioner Blakeley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote': AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10393 - KEITH su iv s on R 79.2 acres' o an n o parce s in the Industrial Park District, Subarea 16, located at the northwest corner of Archibald Avenue and Fourth Street - APN 210- U62-13, 11, 0 , 26, 33 and 3 , Related File: OR 8 -37 I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 0 -37 -` KEIT e' eveilm` oen o a Master an or a acre t—ndu-s-trial park consisting of 33 lots in an Industrial Park District, Subarea 16, located at the northwest quadrant of 4th Street and Archibald Avenue - ` APN 10-0E -0 , 11 13, ` 6, 32 and 33. Related File. Parcel Map 10393 Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the combined staff report. Commissioner Hl kesley questioned Ms. Fong regarding the Master Plan boundaries being expanded to include the triangle piece to the west abutting the Cucamonga Creek. ' s. Fong responded this had been done. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r, Ray Becker, Vice President for Lusk Company, stated `they ;concur with .he findings of the staff report and conditions of the resolution. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Hl akesl ey reiterated his concern with the triangular piece of land and what the eventual disposition will be. Chairman McNiel reopened the public 'hearing. Planning Commission Minutes -6- August 26, 198 Mr. Becker responded this was a matter that was raised at the last public hearing and has generated much discussion ranging from what they can be compelled to do or what can they do about it. In the final analysis, they felt there were some significant disadvantages to their master plan to obtaining it. He recognizes the Commission's concerns about the future use of the site and particularly the south corner of the triangular piece. They are not in a position to solve the problem. The alignment and the construction of the channel has created the odd shaped piece. Chairman cNiel closed the public hearing. Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated staff tried to analyze how the parcel could be developed because of the odd shape and fel t i t coul d be used as a storage yard for a contractor or something to fit into the odd shape. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated there is really nothing wrong with the parcels as they sit. The plan before the Commission does not violate any of the codes and denying or changing it will be difficult. Commis lion ec _.wrick moved to approve the resolution on Item H, Commissioner Chi tiea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES*- COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * * * * * * --carried Item I - Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried J. TERRA VISTA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 4 ® SAN ANTONIO HOSPITAL Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Planning Commission Minutes -7- August 26, 1987 r. Rick Gomez, Lewis Homes representative, stated the objective is to have discussion with the Commission to solicit support of relocating the co medical 1 the planned community y to the use in its current location �n I proposed location at Baseline and Mountain View. s, El aine Carbray, consultant to Lewis Homes summarized the booklet that was submitted to the Commission regarding the land use concept and the relocation of the medical facilities. She addressed the issues of _ and circulation. _aesthetics,land s r. George Kirkendahl , Senior Vice president for Operations at San Antonio Hospital , Upland, spokesman for Mr. Ron Sackett, asked for the Commission's approval and support for the Rancho San Antonio Medical Center. He pointed out this was not a hospital project, but a project for ambulatory care for physician offices and` a full range of diagnostic and treatment services that are appropriate and required because of the population mix in Rancho Cucamonga. It gold include a full service emergency room and out patient surgery. This project has been approved by the Board of Trustees and by the hospital 's medical staff. r. Tim Oliver, a principal of Integrated Medical Campus who are consultants to hospitals to assist in development of ambulatory facilities. th He addressed the issues `related. to e bedless medical facility. Or. Jeff Goldsmith, advisor and author of Can Hospitals Survive , described the genesis of the; proposed medica ace i y pro ec e stated in order for San Antonio Hospital to remain viable, it would have to double the number of people served since' virtually all of the area served is built out. The only developing area or area of increased population growth is in Rancho Cucamonga, Unless San Antonio was able to organize effectively to serve the new residents, the future of .San Antonio was threatened. Subsequent to research, Integrated Medical Campus was hired to find means to best organize and strategically future health care delivery to Rancho Cucamonga and area residents. They proceeded for three months with demographic trends, the character and history of the community, and canvassed and interviewed the community's physicians to answer the question of what will be the community's medical needs five to ten years from now. They concluded' there is a lack of family physicians in the community, only 30 physician locations in Rancho Cucamonga for a population reaching 90,000, which is only one third that ought to be available to serve the community. By 1991, there would be an unmet need of fill physicians to serve a young community. Rancho San Antonio Medical Center is a large group of primary care physicians and services, part of a health care system, namely San Antonio Community hospital . Or. Goldsmith addressed the issue of the location of the hospital ;stating it needs to be a people place and needs to be part of a neighborhood. In searching out alternatives, the most important 'factor in location was putting the medical campus in an area where people live. Easy access is very important to patients. Planning Commission Minutes -8- August 26, 1987 i ¢I Commissioner Chitiea questioned Dr. Goldsmith on the differences from the proposed medical center and Urgent Carte facilities now available. Also what emergency care and what levels of surgery would be provided? Dr. Goldsmith stated there would a trauma center services provided and also emergency services for the minor emergencies. Upon stability of the patient, transportation services for the critical patient would be provided, Commissioner Emerick questioned transportation services, would it be by ambulance?_ r. Goldsmith responded it would be by ambulance or critical care van once the patient was stabilized. The key is the emergency care technician accompanying the transport unit. Mr* Handal Under, Integrated Medical Center, Mated this facility would he more than the standard Urgent Care facility. Patients who would be transported by ambulance would not be under lights and sirens since the patient would be already stabilized. Co issiona. -m rick stated it is generally recognized that San Antonio Community ospi tl is one of the finest in the community and a satellite of this fac i l i ty would be a credit to Rancho Cucamonga.. The question lies, however, is the place either Terra Vista on Baseline or Foothill Boulevard. Mr. 'F erick did not feel' there was a compelling argument for the relocation of the medical center facility. He indicated he needed a more positive feel that the existing area is not acceptable in that the area now is not functional or planning standpoint. Coranissioner Chitiea stated there is a large population below Foothill behind Haven where there are very high density projects being developed. The location of the facility closer to Foothill would be appealing to this population, Ms Chitiea was not comfortable with the idea that this would really be not more than a Urgent Care center since there is no room for growth at the new location. Twenty years from now a larger facility may be needed incorporating acute care;, critical care, and emergency care. The alignment of the street across from the near proposed location on Baseline seems to be more than a minor problem since it has already been set and it's not a matter of moving it o paper. This would considerably change the access` to the hospital and would like to see this issue addressed. It does not seem to work adequately. Ms. Chitiea is not convinced that moving it would be necessarily in the best interests of the overall plan. Commissioner Blakesley echoed ' his support of San Antonio Community Hospital and moving the medical center facility does not improve its function. Planning Commission Minutes -9- August 26, 1987 r. Ron Sackett, resident of Rancho Cucamonga, responded to costs commented on by Commissioner Chitiea. Medical charges are extremely high since there are six other competitors in this area. However, in the monthly report submitted to the state, San Antonio Hospital is the lowest or next to the lowest in comparison with the competitors. Mr. Sackett also addressed the issue of the location of a hospital in Rancho Cucamonga stating because of utilization possibilities it would not be feasible at this time. Three to four hundred thousand people are needed to support a facility and the location should be at a freeway junction. Foothill Boulevard would not be an appropriate location for a traditional hospital nor an outpatient ambulatory facility due ` to the inaccessibility of Foothil l Boulevard. Dr. Goldsmith clarified the misconception of this proposed facility delaying the development of a traditional hospital . This is an interim and intermediate step. The 'location on Foothill Boulevard would not allows physicians to survive since the north and west ends of the community would go elsewhere for medical care. The population in the southern part of the community is virtually negligible. Chairman McNiel stated there was a large' population in the southern part of Rancho Cucamonga, reaching perhaps 10,000 in the multi-family. r. Dan Richards stated the Terra Vista Master planned Community is something that Rancho Cucamonga looks toward with pride. The original planning of the community has seen changes through the years. Initially, when the plan was developed, it was developed by al of of people with good intentions and varying degrees of experience. He felt the residential` planning has had more expert people involved with the planning of it than the office and professional . In this case, the professionals are saying maybe they had it in the wrong place in the beginning and there is a reluctance to acknowledge that this is a possibility. He suggested workshop levels to investigate the probability of relocating the facility. Commissioner Chitiea stated that originally in the Terra Vista plan the medical facility was to be located' further north ;and to the east. The Lewis Company and others came back to the Commission stating it should be further west and closer to Foothill . There has been a great deal of data received with regards to making these changes. r. Ralph Lewis, one of the principals of Terra Vista and Lewis Homes, stated that at one time ` National Medical Enterprises wanted to put a hospital at Church and Milliken. They backed out because it didn 't pay to build a new hospital . After that, request was received from another major hospital in the area and another group may come in soon to make their own submission for another location. They also have requests from groups of physicians stating they would come in and start their own hospital . As landowners, Lewis Homes had to decide who they wanted to deal with and dame to the conclusion that San Antonio would be the Planning Commission Minutes _10- August 26, 1987 superior institution for the benefit of the whole community. When the San Antonio people came to Lewis Homes, San Antonio was told of the zoning at Church and Milliken and they could get start fast there. They said they had done extensive research and in .their Judgment the location on Baseline was better. Their experts say they belong on Baseline. Commissioner McNiel stated the primary questions are essentially the primary issue of location on Baseline, Foothill Boulevard or Church and Milliken, the land use compatibility, the circulation than may or may not develop because of any changes, and the aesthetics. Chairman McNiel stated he and Commissioner Ch tiea had met on a previous occasion with r. Oliver and received a great deal of information. However, they did not get an answer to their question of what is the benefit to the community to make a change, Mr. Mc Niel stated he 'understood the benefit of the proposed change to the hospital since it takes it up to the heart of the residential communities and projects the radiuses out into Fontana when there has been some discussion of the possibility of a medical facility in western Fontana. Because of this it would cover a greater market sham and that is the reason to make the move. Does Market share, however, satisfy the needs of the community? Chairman cNiel felt he was not inclined to think so. Commissioner I kesley stated he did not feel' a quarter mile north does not make t, In of a difference.' Chairman hlcNiel felt it would not make a significant difference to the people except for the outer perimeter of the radius that they serve. The people who live in northwestern Alta Loma either go to San Antonio now or go to another facility. He did not feel a case has been made to the Commission to make a dramatic change in a plan that is felt substantial. He did disagree with the ality that there has been a dramatic change in the needs of medical care. He again asked the question of what does it do for the community? Mr. Hon Sackett responded to Chairman McNiel 's question stating the outstanding medical staff, employees, and the community support making San Antonio Community Hospital one of the best facilities in southern California. He stated the reason for locating it correctly is necessary in attracting the best physicians available. Chairman McNiel still questioned whether that short distance would make a difference if a doctor locates in this community or not. Commissioner Emerick felt it was a potential for a more sophisticated environment actually at Foothill Boulevard. Studies for consumer preference and ;knowing it is market snare is part of the relocation proposal but certain factors have not been identified that this isn't indispensable locational criteria that it has to be on Baseline as opposed to Foothill . This is not so as a facility south of Foothill was approved not too long age. He felt the case made; is not strong 'enough in order to change the Terra Vista plan. Planning Commission Minutes - l- August 26, 1987 Chairman McNiel stated in terms of the primary issue, in his view and the other Commissioners' view, there has not been enough evidence submitted that would convince the Commission that a change would rake a dramatic difference. There is net a significant difference in the shut distance between the two sites that the Commission should take on the task of making the change nor putting the hospital in a residential community. There has net: been enough evidence presented to benefit the city. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the reason for the discussion this evening was a preliminary review and for the applicant to have an opportunity to meet and discuss the proposal with the Commission. If the decision is there is not enough evidence to support a change and not to encourage the applicant to proceed with applications on this project site, the Commission may do so. The applicant has the right to 'choose whether they grant to present more evidence and to submit a formal application for review to be taken 'through the normal process. This is a courtesy of the Commission to offer preliminary comments. Chairman McNiel stated his appreciation of Lewis Homes posture on this issue. :05 P.M. -- Planning Commission Recessed :20 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened K. OFF-SITE SUBDIVISION DIRECTIONAL SIGNS Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel `closed the public hearing. ;r. Bob Reed, Director of Sales and Marketing for the San Bernardino Division of the William Lyon Company, stated as flags are concerned there may be a problem. It is true there is a BIA program in place, while traveling along Baseline or Highland' at 45 - SC mph, it is difficult to read the signs since the letters are only a few inches high and there are many signs. In most cases', you have to stop to read what the signs are stating* As far as the monuments concerned off Highland, the monuments there are bronze plagues i nbedded in the wall . You really don't see those at all unless ,you are stopped. Because of the scale and scope of the planned community, the projects are placed back away* from the major arteries and having a few flags at a few designated entry ways in the master planned community show there is something 'significant that you are going to arrive at a place there would make a' difference. , If there are setbacks concerned as far as safety, 15 feet away from the Planning Commission Minutes -12- August '26, 1987 I street, this could be worked out, He would like to see the flags placed in the same situation as the signs 'where they could come to the Commission, have input from the Commission, and work together on this as they are working with the HIA and the internal kiosk program. Mr. Ralph Lewis, representing Lewis Homes, supported the comments of M . Reed. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick stated he agreed with the staff report and further commented on his support of the number of 'signs permitted should go through Planning Commission review process but declined his support on the number of flags beyond that which is currently permitted. Commissioner Blakesley concurred with Commissioner Emerick"s `view . Commissioner Chitiea stated she agreed with the use of the number of signs and not opposed to the use of flags if they were set in such a way that they wouldn't be a hazard to the City and they would maintain the flags themselves. She also indicated .she would like to also see very specifically limited use of the flags and the developer would be responsible for the maintenance around them. Chairman McNiel stated his concern with the increase of the use of flags would be the possibility of seeing a proliferation of flags used on every tract outside the planned communities and also within and around the planned communities. ; There is signage on the freeways, every piece of road, and although it might be a benefit to the company 'i n terms of isolating their sales offices but he felt it would not do anything for the community. He agreed with the staff report with respect to the signs; and the flags* Commissioner Emerick moved approve the resolution, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES; COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL LACES. C ITIEA ABSENT: TOLS CY Commissioner Chitiea clarified her no vote for the reasons previously Mated. * * ' --carried L. TENTATIVE TRACT 1 475 DESIGN REVIEW - WDS DEVELOPMENT - Design evre o ui Ong a ova ions an sM pans or a previously approved tract map consisting of 29 single family lots on 7.94 acres of land in the Low Density Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre), located on the east side of Ramona Avenue, north of Church Street - APN 1077= 01- 8. Planning Commission Minutes -13- August 26, 1987 Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Richard Castallus, representative for WS Development, stated they are in concurrence with the staff report. Chairman an dNiel closed ose the public p c hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved approval of the resolution Commissioner gl ae 1 s e seconded the motion. Motion _ � of on armed by the fallowing vote AYES. COMMISSIONERS.* CHITIEA, RLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL ROES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * - carried M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-08 WESTERN PROPERTIES - e eve en o an o ace par cons t-ting of fo—ul—r-7-7 story buildings totaling 250,000 square feet on 16.58 acres of land in the Office Park District of the ;Terra.. Vista Planned; Community, located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Town 'Center Drive - APN 1011-4 1-06, 10 and 09. Related to this proposed project is a Tree Removal Permit 87 0, requesting the removal of two groves of Eucalyptus trees (approximately 55 trees); within the site. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner," presented' the staff report. She stated there was a minor modification to one of the conditions which should now read °"Developer shall expand landscaping into the Deer Creek channel right-of-way to provide additional landscaping provided that he is able to obtain and diligently pursue." The purpose of this; modification is to provide some flexibility to the developer and obtaining authorization from the flood control district. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. John Melcher, representing Lewis Homes, stated they have reviewed the conditions and with the modification they are prepared to accept the staff report. Alsowith Mr. Mel Cher were Ralph Lewis, Chairman of the Board and Michael Salta , representing the Nadel Partnership, the archi tectual firm handling the project for Lewis Homes. Chairman McNiel questioned the size of the reveals, the double line and the single line around the arches, r. Nadel stated the double line is the accentuated reveal whereas the single is the extended reveal , almost an inch deep. ' Planning Commission Minutes -14- August 26, 1987 Commissioner Chitiea questioned if all surfaces were going to be flush. Mr. Nadel stated that all areas are going to be smooth, crisp, and flat. There are recessed windows> and noted the articulation of the archi tecture. Commissioner Chi tiea questioned the elevation of the tower and whether it was given sufficient height above the other roof line to give it significance and changes were made. Mr. Nadel responded it was extended substantially, about two feet. Commissioner Blakesley moved approve the site plan and the tree removal permit as amended, Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no further Commission Business at this time. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURUMEMT Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to adjourn. 9:50 P.M. -- Planning Commission Adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Deputy Secretary Planning Commission Minutes _15- August 26, 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 12, 1987 Chairman Larry McNi el called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 700 p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. RILL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Slakesley, Suzanne Ch tiea Bruce Cmerick, Larry McNiel ABSENT: Peter Tolsto, STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; fancy Fong, Associate Planner, Greg Gage, Assistant Planner; Narrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney Debra Meier, Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; and Karen kis ack, Planning Commission Secretary --carried ANNOUNCEMENTS Can Coleman, Senior Planner, announced the fast food workshop would be held after the next Design Review meeting, August 20, 1987. r. Coleman announced the receipt of a letter from the applicant requesting` continuance to the August 26, 1987 meeting for Item F - Messeger. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Commissioner Chitiea, seconded by Commissioner Dlakesley, carried, to approve the Minutes of dune 24, 1987 as submitted. CONSENT CALENDAR A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TRACT 13058 DESIGN REVIEW - WILLIAM - e es1go review ofu Ong and plot plans r a previously approved tract map consisting of 202 lots on .51 acres of land in the Medium Residential (4-14 dwelling units per acre) within the Victoria Planned Community, located ont he west side of Fairmont Way, south of Highland Avenue - APN 0 -911- 01. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the Consent Calendar Item A. Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL (DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY carried HEARINGSPUBLIC B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT B -0 - SARKTMA A 5F556gil t7o develop a , sc are oo retail en er fncludin a 1 square foot restaurant n .g � u nt o 1.26 acres of land In the General ' Commercial District located at the southwest corner of ' Malven Avenue ` and Arrow Route - APN 09-0 1-4 , 50i Related File. VA B -DS, (Continued from duly B, 98 Chris byes an, Assistant planner, presented the staff report. Chairman MNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Kriko Sarkissian, 18760 Pa adero Drive, Tarzana, started they are in concurrence with the staff report. Chairman McNiel "closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved to approve the resolution as modified, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: ....YES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MC IEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: T LSTOY --carried Planning Commission Minutes - - August 1 , 1987 C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10884 - SYCAMORE INVESTMENTS--Tl_-�__A SUbdivisiori--df 2.6 acres of land _i_nfo__Z­piFFe_l_T in tFie -Neigh5orhood Commercial Development District located at the northeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Base Line Road - APN 202- 731-08. Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Bart Striker, representing Sycamore Investments II, concurs with the staff report. Chairman cNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Blakesley moved to approve the resolution as written, Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMTSSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSOY --carried D. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT 87-255 CISNEROS Appeal of staff s aRiMn denying a -Home Occ-u-patl*65 —Fe—rmit at 10736 Sundance Drive. (Continued from July 8, 1987) Greg Gage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Ms. Wrayanne E. Cisneros, appellant, stated this application is for individualized Lamaze childbirth classes. There would only be 10-12 adult student couples at one time since it is conducive to relaxation. Ms. Cisneros further stated that 72 percent of couples between the years of 1976 - 1986 sought private home classes. Out of the 57 private instructors in Upland, 24 private instructors in Rancho Cucamonga, Ms. Cisneros is the only one who has asked for a Business Permit/Home Occupation Permit. She stated she wanted to be honest coming for a permit. She also indicated ,that, she would limit the number of couples in reconsideration of the Commission. Commissioner Emerick questioned the hours of operation. Planning Commission Minutes -3- August 12, 1987 Ms. Cisneros responded :00 - 7:00 p.m. or 7 0 - 9:30 p.m. evenings or 10.00 - 1 :00 or :CQ 1 :00 Saturday mornings depending on work schedules. She indicated the cost of 6 week course is $75 and she is trying very hard to keep the classes small. Chairman McNiel' closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick stated his only concern was with the number of oars that would; be coming to the neighborhood. He would like o °protect the neighborhood from traffic impacts. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. s. Cisneros responded to Commissioner Emerick's comments regarding parking stating that six spaces are available on their ;property and she also has a letter signed by neighbors .stating consent that the parking would not be a problem. Commissioner Emerick' questioned whether the Commission was establishing a precidence here. He felt there would be traffic impacts upon the neighborhood. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea also indicated her concern about the traffic impact on this neighborhood since it is a cul-de-sac. It would seem a church facility might be more appropriate. She stated she was not comfortable with the number of people' impacting the neighborhood. Commissioner Blakesley stated he applauder Ms. Cisneros approach since some Lamaze classes' have been in industrial areas, church basements, medical office buildings, etc. and felt this approach would be much more comfortable and relaxing. He did not feel there was a problem with the number of couples nor the impact on the community. He supports the Home Occupation Use and is concerned with setting a precidence. Brad Buller, City planner, discussed the option of trial period limiting the number of people, mitigating it for a certain length of time, and conditioning it so it does not set a precedence. Neighborhood concerns could be grounds for revocation of the permit. Commissioner Chitiea suggested conditioning it setting restrictions if there were neighborhood complaints or problems. The Commission could set some guidelines and proceed with the permit. Dan Coleman, Senior Manner, stated the size of the room would limit the number of couples itself. Brad Buller, City planner, recommended the staff work with the applicant given the guidelines set by the Commission, develop some conditions, and bring it back as resolution recommending approval as a Consent Calendar Planning Commission Minutes -4- August 12, 1987 i tem. Staff would work out the details of two nights a week and the limit of eight couples. The resolution would be more explicit for the hours of operation, etc. Commissioner Chitiea moved to direct staff to develop a resolution for approval on the Home Occupation Permit - Cisneros. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: ERICK ABSENT: TOLSTOY Commissioner Emerick clarified his no vote for the reasons stated in the discussion. --carried E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-27 - SLOBODA A request to allow a oaKery/pas try,i ii :1,11 n an existing i I ndustria" c w zoo located at the south e� st corner of Arrow Route and V1ha,j,.ae,d Avenue in the General Industrial District (Subarea 1) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan - A 207-261-49. Greg Gage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Ms. Susan Sloboda, 1350 Balboa Avenue, Ontario, concurred with the staff report. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Cali tiea moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS.- ONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-28 as 1! i i L lii] s � iss SUO'por -S"e-rvices, Convenience Sales and Services, and Food and Beverage Sales in Buildings 1, 2 and 3 of an approved industrial business park, in the General Industrial District, Subarea 2, located on the south side of Arrow, at Bear Gulch Place - APN 209-012-19. Planning Commission Minutes, -5- August 12, 1987 This item has been requested by the applicant to continue to the August 26, 1987 meeting. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item F to the August 26, 1987 meeting; Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote. AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CNIT`IEA, `EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS.* TCLSTOY * --carried G. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 12969 - YAZELIJIAN - A total resi do a eve opmen ra sing a a �Tylots an wo duplexes totaling 28 units on 4.78 acres of land in the Low-Medium Residential District 48 dwelling units per acre) , located on the south side' of Arrow Route, between Comet Sheet and Sierra Madre Drive - APN 207-222-08. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. The applicant was not present. ' Chairman Mc Niel closed the public hearing. Commissioner E rick; stated based on the letter' that was submitted, dated August 10 1987, consenting to the added condition that applicant pay fees in lieu of undergrobnding, Commissioner Eerick recommended that this condition be added to the time extension. Commissioner lakeley seconded the motion. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was not sure the zoning on this 'articular density is to her liking, it is a little higher than what she would 'like to see. If the applicant had not been willing to comply with the under rounding, she would have liked to re look at the area and consider down zoning. However, she does support the time extension. It was moved and seconded to approve the time extension; motion carried by the following vote. I Planning Commission Minutes -6- August 12, 1987 i ,i AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERIC , BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MC IEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: T4LSTOY -carried l H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 87-09 - HAMMER - A request to re uce require average an scape se ac rom BS feet to 18 feet along Baker Street, to reduce the required average landscape setback from to 13 feet along Bowen Street, and to reduce the required side yard setback from 20 feet to 12 feet for the north building in conjunction with the establishment of a day care center and school' in the Love Residential District -4 dwelling units per acre);, located at the northwest corner of Bowen Street and Baker Avenue - APN 207-531-31and 5 (Related project: Clip 7- I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87- - ER- MuTg a an presc oo wz '1n wo n theResidential District 4 re e southwest corner of 9th enue - APN C7-S 1-31< and 50. (Related Project: VA 87 C9 Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the combined staff reports. Chairman McNiel '-opened the public hearing. Mr* Craig Hammer, 940 Nest Duarte Road, Monrovia, applicant, are in concurrence with the staff reports. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Blakesley commented that to the north of this project is a school and directly to the south a tract where the fending is directly adjacent to the sidewalk. He does not feel this would be degrading in any way. The site is in need of landscaping and if this issue was addressed adequately in Design' Review, Mr. Blakesley did not have any problem with the variance or the use. Commissioner Emerick stated a hedge-shrub Material , a thorny hedge, was suggested to discourage vandalism. Also stucco on the wall was discussed Commissioner Chitied commented since the applicant' was going to substantially improve the existing site with landscaping and wall improvements, she felt this was an enhancement to the property. Commissioner Blakesley moved to approve the resolution as written on the Envi ronmental Assessment and Variance ' 87-C9I Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes - August 12, 1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * * * * * * --carried ITEM I - ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-22 Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution as written, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 10902 WILLIAM LYON COMPANY`_- A subdivM65 of 13.0 acres-df-Jand--in t I o- I ZparZM or SEW! and park facilities within the Victoria Groves Community Plan located on the northerly side of Fairmont Way at the westerly terminus of Victoria Park Lane - APN 202-901-31. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Stephen Ford, representing William Lyon Company, stated they are in agreement with the staff report. Chairman Mc Niel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Blake ley seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHIT IEA, SLAKE LEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * * * * * 1* --carried K. REVISION TO THE VICTORIA VINEYARDS SOUTH AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN WTEETAC-EYOW -COMPANY - A request -to rdiVui' the- approved Area B-eve To-p-m-en-f-PTa—n-to—re-orient the park site and realign Rochester Planning Commission Minutes -8- August 12, 1987 Avenue for the Victoria Vineyards South Village, a 117.4 acre portion of the Victoria Planned Community, ;located on the north side of Base Line Road, between Milliken and Rochester Avenues APN 7- -Co. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Blakesley expressed his concern regarding the railroad easement presenting any hazard to the park..* r, Murphy stated that Community Services Division did not have any concern about it when they reviewed the project. Commissioner Chitiea questioned whether this project had been brought to the Trails Committee for consideration. r. Murphy responded that this would be brought to Trails Committee when they had the defined alignments of the various tracts¢ Commissioner Chitiea stated from a technical standpoint, this; is a Trails Committee issue and prior to coming to the Commission, it would appropriate to get some preliminary input from the Committee before any eco endat �s made. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing, i r. Stephen Ford, representing William Lyon Company, Mated they have reviewed the staff report and agree to the conditions of the report. Commissioner Chitiea questioned if this was a passive or active park. r. Ford stated this park is not adjacent to an elementary' school and would have a tot lot, baseball diamond, and other' low-key recreational uses typical of Victoria Parks He felt this would meet the requirements of the Community Services Department. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated this park is verb typical of the other parks and has a small baseball diamond for daytime use. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea suggested that a condition should be added stating the trail alignment should be subject to the Trails Committee recommendation. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution as modified with respect to Trails Committee approval ; Commissioner glakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes -g- August 12, 19 i AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, GLA ESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: T LSTDY -carried L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-1 - GTE - A proposal"'' o cons ruc a , square oo remo a swR c tng ation on approximately one half acre of land in the General Industrial District, Subarea 8, located on the west side of Etiwanda Avenue approximately 1,2OU feet north of Arrow Highway - AP 9-0 1-18.' Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, ,presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. George Sotiri , 1755 Leman Street, Northridge, representing GTE, stated they accept the conditions of the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea stated this particular property is located directly opposite the entry of a residential community with an attractive brig entry and since it is the only , building that will be in existence opposite that community, it should be upgraded substantially to not stand out as specifically industrial although it does sit on property coned industrial . She felt if they would have used brick on the exterior it would have made a better transition to the neighborhood across and also brick is not an unattractive or inappropriate material in an industrial area... Specifically, she is not satisfied with the architectural design of this particular 'property. Commissioner Enrico added the vertical square block is used with pilasters of rough block in between every 30 - SD feet. Chairman McNiel stated the building itself is very small , 1,00 square feet,; and concealed by the fluted wall . Commissioner Emerick commented that the additional cost of putting in a pilaster and this treatment would break up the monotony of the wall . Brad Buller, it Planner , �n re sponse y ,� p.. s to Commissioner Chi ti:ea s comment of using element g some _ of brick on the wall , suggested as an alternative to take the driveway g g_ e 1v wa e and use some paying material h y p g a that is similar to the entrance of the residential community and maybe no t dr aw attention to the building. The building may , be somewhat obscurred -through the la ndscaping and may.: be the focus to make the project frontage appear more compatible with the residential across the street would be the driveway treatment. Brick could work on the building also. Planning Commission Minutes -10- August 12, 1987 i Commissioner Chitiea stated the difficulty the Commission has had in the past and the Comission resolutely decided not to hide poor or inadequate architecture by landscaping. The building still needs to stand on its own and the landscaping either enhances or is appropriate to it, but it is not them to hide the building. The City should not be designed to hide behind landscaping. Ms. Chitiea could not support the project as it stands now. She further stated she ;would like to send it back to Design Review and felt this was not a major problem that could not be resolved at the Design Review meeting. Brad.. Buller, City Planner, questioned what alternatives or solutions would be appropriate and desirable from the Commission so he could present those to the applicant. Commissioner Chitiea suggested material that would soften the impact for the transition from residential to industrial . Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing® r. Soti ri responded> to the time schedule problem presented by Chairman McNiei stating they would like to finish this project as soon as possible. Brad Buller, City Planner, questioned the Commission if they felt comfortable deferring this matter approving it subject to Design Review approval so it would not have to core back to the Commission and that it could be concluded at Design Review. Chairman McNiel stated that in Design Review has position was dull concrete block dulls the eye; and does' not attract and the building virtually disappears which is aided by landscaping. Commissioner Emerick commented on the rock suggestion made by Mr. 'Buller stating he liked the old pumphouse idea. Co issioner Blakesley moved to approve the resolution subject to Design Review comments and approval ; Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKCSLEY CHITIEA, E ERICK, MCNIEL '.:DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOO STOY * * * -- carried M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW B - 9 -' TOWER e eve o en o a - square ob s ruc u're f6r ma r4estaurant uses on approximately 0.25 acres of land within the Virginia Dare Winery Business Center~, located at the northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Haven Avenue - APN 107 -bbl-C . Planning Commission Minutes -I1- August' 1 , 1987 Chris Westran, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman 'cNiel opened the public hearing. The applicant was not: present. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick questioned the original concept was for a 6,000 square foot dinner house and why that is no longer being proposed. r. Westm n responded that the same area would now be a combination of smaller restaurants and not one tenant unless the applicants could attract one larger tenant. Dan Coleman, Senior ,Planner, commented that 10,000 - 12,OUO square feet is typically needed fora major restaurant. Commissioner Emerick mowed to approve the resolution, Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. motion was carried by the following vote': AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIE , g A ESCEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY - carried N. APPEAL OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW ropose i on i o a oo craneway; o an to ng .ems a ructure in the Heavy Industrial Land Use District (Subarea 15), located at 12459 Arrow Highway APN 229-131-33. Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Chitiea asked what type of landscaping is proposed. Ms. Norris responded. that Southern California Edison has a requirement that nothing is to be used over 15 feet high, Mr, Lee Lanell , Vice President of TAMCO, stated there were no comments. Commissioner Chitiea asked Mr. Lanell whether it would not be possible to plant a landscape barrier inside their fencing of some denser material such as fast-growing pines, r. Lanell stated there was not .space since there was an access road east of their fence which borders a slag pile leaving no space at all . There is a fence that divides their on the western boundary property y which Edison has a right-of-way and landscaping on the eastern part of T CO's property. Manning Commission Minutes -1 - August 12, 198 Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing, Brad Buller, City Planner, stated he had been on a tour of the facility and felt what might help mitigate what might be considered an unslightly condition from the freeway. The City is pursuing with Caltrans the development of a conceptual landscape plan for I-1 . Staff would recommend the development of landscaping along the right-of-way in conjunction with projects as they occur. Mr. Buller believes one mitigation to the unsightliness of the existing industrial uses would landscaping adjacent to the freeway'. Commissioner Cmerick questioned Mr. Buller on his recommendations now after the tour of the facility'. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff recommendation would be landscaping along Arrow Highway since it is the only other public right- of-way except for the freeway from which the public can vier the development. In addition the City will continue to pursue with Caltrans for landscaping of the right-of-way. However, this may not happen until there is a project that happens adjacent to the right-of-way. Commissioner Cmerick questioned if the screening of the roof-mounted equipment and the painting condition had been changed. r. Buller responded those conditions had been changed since it would not be a necessarily attractive building even with the screening of the roof equipment. Since the heat inside the building which transmits to the surface and in the ducting, the applicant could not get anyone to guarantee the painting since it would chip and flake. The conditions that were initially put were what staff believes were the policies of the Commission. In his opinion, the policies are appropriate but may be impractical given the heavy industrial use of this property and adjacent properties. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. r. Bill Nelson, Manager of Energy and Environmental Systems of TAMICO, stated the building is ventilated from the bottom up indicating the upper part of the building reaches 2500. The duct work at the upper end of the building is 12 1/2 feet in diameter and 7, 00 cubic feet of air per minute is removed out of the building. There is no one working in the upper section of the building with only two work areas within the building itself. The outer structure is ;made of a special material that is a highly resistance material and can not be repainted. The metal building is made from sheets /4 inch thick to withstand winds of 110 mph. In the upper part at HC foot< elevation is a crane that lifts C tons of material . Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner, Blkesley moved to approve the resolution with the conditions as written. Planning Commission Minutes -I - August 12, 1987 Commissioner Chitiea questioned whether the west property line could not get a row of fast-growing evergreen trees. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated he did not know the soil conditions in or arround the slag pile. A better approach would be to plant trees 'on the Edison Easement, however, Edison restricts planting to a maximum of 15 feet in height. Commissioner McNiel wanted to investigate further the use, of the Edison Easement. Commissioner Emerick stated he would like to have some type of feasibility study done with respect to establishing a windrow treatment along the west property line. This study could be done by an arborist, licensed landscape architecture or soils engineer for their recommendation for windrow treatment. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated trying to establish the right plant material at the right spacing could be part of the condition. Staff could condition thi si appeal modified and indicate that a study shall be conducted to determine the likelihood of planting a row of evergreen trees to be planted along the west property line location and type to be determined by the City Planner. Commissioner Blakesley accepted the modification of his motion to approve the resolution with respect to windrow oftrees along the west property line. Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COWISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * * * * * * --carried DIRECTM'S REPORT 0. PARKING LOT AND SIDEWALK SALES Richard Alcorn, Code Enforcement Supervisor, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. John Jertberg, owner of John's Spa Sales, 7890 Haven Street, stated they would like to have a monthly parking lot sales. Originally, he applied for the parking lot sale under his business permit and was initially denied then granted a temporary use permit for a parking lot sale. Planning Commission Minutes -14- August 12, 1987 Chairman McNiel stated the issue is whether parking lot sales are on site location basis or on a license condition basis. Brad Buller, City Planner, asked clarification whether the location would be per business location, parcel , or by center. There has to be strict interpretation on the wording. Commissioner Chitiea stated if the center holds the sale, each store has the option' to participate' or not. o ission+er B1akesley stated he supported by parcel . Commissioner Emerick indicated he would like to see some individuality on the part of each store. Discussion lead to directing the staff to prepare two code amendments to clarify for business location and for limited'periods of time. COMMISSION BUSINESS `here was no Commission Business at this time. PUBLICCONWNTS Mr. John Jertberg asked for clarification of the Commission's direction of parking lots sales. Chairman MdNiel stated the direction of the Commission is four parking lot sales three individual and one annul sale. ADJOURNWMT Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick,: unanimously carried, to adjourn 9:15 P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned. Respectfully su' mi t , Brad Buller Deputy Secretary Planning Commission Minutest August 1 , 1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 22, 1987 Chairman Larry Mc Niel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Plinning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at tinie ,.ions park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman cNiel then led in the the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emerick, and Larry cNiel ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , sDeputy City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner; Greg Gage, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Debra Meier, Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner; and Karen Kissack, Planning Commission Secretary DESIGN AWWS PRESENTAT1011 Larry cNiel and Suzanne Chitiea presented the awards for design excellence to the following companies: Deer Creek Company/Grigsby Corporation - Residential Lewis Homes of California - Residential Sycamore Springs Apartments - Residential Haven Village/Diversified- Residential Haven Car Wash/Larry Beck - Commercial Rancho Cucamonga Research and Development Center - Commercial Haven Commerce Center/Henry Ryder - Commercial Haven Court LTD - Commercial Haven Gate Center - Commercial Virginia Dare Phase I/Christensen Company - Commercial Master Planning and Implementation of Rancho Cucamonga Business Park 'an and Barton Company - Commercial Gateway Master Plan/Henry Ryder Company - Commercial Victoria Community Plan/William Lyon Company - Commercial Rancho Cucamonga Business Park Phase I _ Landscaping Cucamonga Business Park/Henry Ryder Company -' Landscaping Willows Project/Willows Professional Center - Rehabilitation Christmas House/Jay and Janis Islee - Rehabilitation Barton Plaza I and II - Community Design Award Chairman McNiel acknowledged Phil Rodriquez as the designer of the awards. Al"MCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced the dates of the Thomas Brothers Winery Site, fast food Restaurants, and the proposed Terra Vista hospital site workshops. APPROVALI ES Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, carried, to approve the Minutes of April 3U, 1987 with an addition to page 4 by Commissioner Chitiea. Motion. Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, carried, to approve the Minutes of May 18, 1987 as submitted. Motion: Moved' by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, carried, to approve the Minutes of May 27, 1987 as submitted. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, carried, to approve the Minutes of June 10 1987 with modifications toa es 9 and 1D h pages y Commissioner Chitiea. CONSENT CALENDAR A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87- 4 - PIER I roposal td--7do­nt_truct a 165,074 s uard f66t ware6 se T tri buts on building add ti n in the General Industrial District, Subarea 11,; on 18.8 acres of land located on the west side of Buffalo Avenue north of` bth Street - APN 9 - 7. Motion made by Commissioner Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley to approve the consent calendar. Motion carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHIT'IEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE' ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSfOY --carried Planning Commission Minutes - 2 - duly 22, 1987 PUBLIC HEARINGS B. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN To review an cons reco aon cer ion o Graft Environmental Impact Report for the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan project. The Specific Plan consists of detailed land use regulations and 'standards for the development along Foothill Boulevard between Grove Avenue and Haven ,Avenue, between the 1-15 Freeway and East Avenue. (Continued from July g, 198 . Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report. In addition, Alan Warren, Associate Planner gave a brief overview of the project and comments received from interested parties during the review period* Mr. Marren reviewed' suggested responses to the comments as drafted by the FIR consultant, Per. Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, presented comments regarding the concern about the Red Hill ' realgnmen. The plan proposes to realign t directly to Grove Avenue. He said City of Upland felt that this would cause unacceptable traffic impacts upon existing neighborhoods in the City of h-";­nd and on Grove Avenue itself in the City of Upland. He stated .sty owners' ' traffic consultant stressed that the realign en ,i i<ed Hill Country Club Drive through the property would impact the property greatly and then would have traffic impacts on Grove Avenue. However, he stated that the study failed to adequately address the alternates impacts on properties within Rancho Cucamonga, existing properties on Foothill Boulevard or the Red Hill neighborhood itself. n the overall analysis of the impacts, ' he believes that the impact on Red Hill which would be caused by a direct connection to Foothill Boulevard would be greater than the impacts caused' by the connection to Grove' Avenue. In order to connect Red Hill Country Club Drive to Foothill , one would have to go through a ' smaller peice of property which would involve the entire lot. The connection would then require a traffic signal which would encourage still further shortcut traffic through the Red' Hill area which would very heavily impact the existing underdesigned roadway. This serves the Red hill area adequately but is not a collector road. If the reroute of Red Hill Country Club Drive is directly to Grove Avenue,' which is the alternate presented in the plan, he expected a decrease of about 50 percent in the traffic on Red Hill Country Club Drive and add 'a neglible amount of traffic to Grove Avenue. The development of the corner property is the question here. ,All impacts were reviewed and the proposed realignment to Grove provides the least impacts of the three which were considered. r. Alan Marren summarized that in Cal Trans response they favorably mentioned this Grove alignment in their analysis as being appropriate for Foothill traffic situation. All throughout the analysis, the reason why the City initiated the plan, was to lessen the anticipated impacts without the specific plan in the future. ' p, _ Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes - 3' - duly 22, 1987 r. Ron Sackett„ 7723 Calle Casino, Rancho Cucamonga, read a letter in addition to handing, it out to the Commission. He represents the San Antonio Community Hospital , the owner of the property that would be h � hasnever� r ctl impacted b' the realignment.nmentf He .stated the City , e p g � y responded to their reports by a professional traffic engineer. To this time, they could never respond to questions raised 'by the City in regards to the report* They would like to see the City delay a decision on this issue. r, Jeff Bloom, City of Upland Planning Director, 460 North Euclid, stated the concern for the realignment of Red Hill Country Club Drive and its impacts on the City of Upland, What changes have been made to the draft resolution? Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, gavel Mr. Bloom a copy of the draft resolution and ' stated there had been added the mandatory findings of EQA. Mr. Bloom indicated the City of Upland is very disturbed by the prospects of realigning Red Hill Country Club Drive. He referred to the letter of June 23, 187 that outlined the areas of the draft Environmental Report that in ' particular concerns the City of upland. They believe the response to comments continues to ignore the impacts which may _arise` from the ,implementation of the proposed realignment. He was concerned that we were not trading off impacts from one city to the other. The mitigation measures suggest the realignment should occur expeditiously, the report concludes the realignment is conceptual . Does this mean we aren't adopting any realignments and are we going to do a full environmental assessment and actually route a Red Hill realignment to Grove Avenue` or to any other area along Foothill Boulevard? if this is not the case, he suggested that this EIR has not fully addressed the different technical needs as far as the realignment and the impacts it would have.. It would seem appropriate to the City of Upland to do such a detailed analysis before making a decision. They did point out in the letter that the actual land use implications on the property should be addressed and they were unable to find satisfactory evidence that this had been addressed. The impacts, in City of Upland's opinion, will greatly cause the traffic` on Grove "avenue to increase and conflict with the local residential traffic that already uses Grove Avenue and instead r bl on rove d compounding n a problem G of eliminating a problem` the wool be co 0 p_ y p 9 p Avenue, r. Jim Chase, 8467 Red Hil Country Club Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, spoke on behalf of the Red Hill Country Club. He expressed the views of the country club stating the realignment of Red Hill Country: Club Drive through Kramer ' property to Grove is merely taking the problem from Foothill and moving it to Grove. They are very much opposed to the option of going through the Kramer property. Planning Commission Minutes - 4 - July 22, 1987 m • M'.. � * ' .i i ® m � i� M i .i aM ' . ' i i ` " 1 # i . ii # i M i M +M � r M ` . � � it a ... �.:. a ., � •'::4 i i ': i F u � a i.a �.... • �" �' ,!: a � M • • i i....;' M ♦f i M i - M: M' 1. ! i i . • ' • , i i � � i Y i i M i t i M N M � i g, i e ® # R r i :� � � i r. • . + � M . ® � i . -� • +►- i � � i; i i M i ^' 1 iM i # M r • / C ! i use of engineering practices and use of land to make it work. They know exactly where the alignment would enter onto Grove and where the alignment would enter onto the property in the southeast corner, but rather than putting down i specific line between the two points, it was felt by the Committee and Commission that part ;of it should be left flexibile. The design then could be dealt with in a realistic and intelligent fashion..' Another point to consider is when people look at Foothill Boulevard today, the need to do something may not appear that obvious. What is being looked at now is the long term; plan where traffic flow is approaching an average buotlu daily trips which is significantly more than the existing boulevard can handle. Ones of the most significant components of the Foothill Plan is a rather stringent traffic control system that stretches from the upland city limits to the Fontana city limits. It is integrated, and provides fora median and signals that are spaced in locations for the optimum in timing and also provides traffic access, controls. It provides the beat ultimate solution which will work for all the 'other concerns. The Red Hill realignment is only a small component of the overral system. Chairman McNiel stated that Foothill Boulevard is going to carry a tremendous amount of traffic and this will be very difficult to maintain the traffic through the community. One of the things not to do is put signals at every intersection where it will slow traffic flaw. Foothill Boulevard will be three lanes going in each direction.; The best method is to put as few stops in Foothill Boulevard as possible. Where this is proposed to align onto Grove avenue is at the driveway of the shopping center that is right across the street of Grove, adjacent to residential but is at commercial . There ;should be reduction of traffic across Red Hill and Alta Cuesta. This is the appropriate solution' to the abundance of the traffic on Foothill Boulevard. Now is the time to make a sound judgment. Commissioner Fmierick felt the proposed alignment has been well analyzed by the staff and advocates the realignment from the discussion heard. Commissioner Chi ti ea agreed with the comments of Chairman` i el and Commissioner F eric . One of the major reasons that a stop light was not to be put in by the Sycamore Inn would be encouragement for traffic to go through Red Hill and that would certainly impact the neighborhood. e boyhood. The decision was not made capriciously and this was even g p �' g great deal of thought. There is not an ideal solution but the one proposed would be the best. As for the argument that it impacts on the neighborhoods in upland, the residential ` area is above this, there is no impact through the Upland residential area whatsoever. This is all south of that development and directly across from Upland's very lame commercial center which they are expanding upon themselves and will be inviting a great deal of traffic to that commercial center at approximately the same location in from Grove'. Chairman McNiel' asked for comments on the other parts of the draft IR. Planning Commission Minute - 6- - July 22, 1987 Commissioner Chitiea felt the deft EIR had been adequately addressed. Chairman M1cNiel stated the City has been a city of, plans and districts, city that exceeds what needs to be done in order to plan a reasonable community. He recognized the efforts of the AD HOC Committee and feels this document is an 'enormous undertaking;. He requested thank you notes be sent to those who were on the ADHCC Committee. Commissioner Emerick moved for adoption of the resolution recommending certification by the City Council on Environmental Impact Report for the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion was unanimously carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK, MiCNIEL NOES: `' COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY Otto Kroutil confirmed this is the revised resolution and includes the Statement of Overriding Considerations. -carried C. FOOTHILL- BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN _ A public he wing to consider approva o e dr-aft-Footh-17-To-ulevard Specific Plan. The draft Specific plan provides for detailed land use categories and development standards for all future developments on properties adjacent to Foothill Boulevard Continued from duly 'B, 1987) .' Otto ' routil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report. e co eted ;on the modifications and minor changes clarifying certain points in the plan. Staff had received no negative response from the Chamber of Commerce in their presentation on duly IB, 1987 and have received their ' support. From the discussion regarding the permitted uses including apparel stores and minor repairs, it is the understanding that allowing general apparel stones in the specialty commercial and community commercial is the direction of the Commission. This would involve elimination of wholesale and discount stores as a category. The same comment relates to the minor repair since the direction of the Commission was to allow minor automobile repair conditionally with 'a Conditional Use Permit in Community Commercial areas. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Sanford Bloom, owner of the property at 9494 Foothill Boulevard, spokesman on behalf of Mr. and Mrs. Harold Lundgren and Mr. Hillgre , as well as a number of owners of small nonconforming lots facing Foothill . Mr. Bl oom' s had a concern with the the definition of Mixed Use. This would benefit by the greater flexibility and the broadening Planning Commission Minutes - 7 _ ;duly 22, 1987 M ! � " • i F t !e M . � F � F i ► ...: i.N F.` ® a "` t ...« �i i ! i 1. e F i. F , t.... . s � '... � F F � i i•, . .. '� e e • M F f � i i . # !. 1 F � i� F � y m "`" ! � t ! R !' i i � r � � � r - F �^ a F yr ` i r • ` � ^ F � • • � • Commissioner Emerick commented on Mr. Arcinage's conerns on last-minute discussion and agreed with his comments. The staff has done a very goad job with the plan and the complexity of the plan, Commissioner Chitiea. commented on Mrs. Lundgren's mixed use piece.. This plan should allow for the flexibility that is needed and promotes development andi creativity. Commissioner Chitiea moved adoption of the plan as corrected with the information therein.; Commissioner Eineritk seconded the motion. Motion was unanimously carried by the following vote AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA,' E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * --carried D. E I CN 4L ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 87-OB - CITY OF MUM reques o amen e n se ap o e enera n o reflect hand use changes proposed by the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan. Continued from duly 8, 1987 . Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman MNiel , opened the public hearing. 1 Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item D to the August 26, 1987 Planning Commission meeting. Commissioner Bl akesl ey seconded the motion. Motion' was carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAKE LEY, EM RICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried 'i E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ETIWANDA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 87-02 n ame6aiVent to ;remove from e - wwan' a peci is an approxiamtel,y 57 acres of alnd on the north side of Foothill Boulevard between the 1-15 Freeway; and East Avenue; approximately 5 acres of land on the southeast corner of Etiwwanda Avenue and Foothill Boulevard; and approximately 14 acres of land on the southwest corner° of East Avenue and Foothill Boulevard - AN 2 7-211-24, 5 & 27, APN 227-221-01-03, 07-O9, 14 & 22-27, APM 227- 231-19,21,2 ,29,33 & 34, APN 229-311-14 & 15, APN 229 041-10, and portions of APN 227-231-1 ` & 23. Planning Commission Minutes - 9 - July 22, 1987 Otto 'Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Since there were no public comments, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chi ti ea moved approval of the resolution. Commissioner laKesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, RLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL DES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE' ;ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TQLSTOY * * * * --carried F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT - n amen med o remove trom tne- InaURF51 AFei 95RiM Plin approximately 80 acres of` land' on the south side of Foothill Boulevard between the -15 Freeway and Etiwanda Avenue - AP 9-031-01, 16 & 20' and portions of229-021-57 Sg. Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman MNiel opened the public hearing. Since them were no public comments, the public hearing was Closed* Commissioner Blakesl'ey moved approval of the resolution, Commissioner hitiea seconded the motion, Motion carded by the following vote: AYES.` COMMISSIONERS: BLAK SLEY CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: CQ ISSIONE S: TDLSTDY * * * * --carried G. ENVIRONMENTALASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 5996 DAVID 8WER77A g0aiV ision of 2 acres of an o�n parce s in y a e Row dwelling units per acre) Residential Development District located on the south side of Nilson Avenue, east of Mayberry Avenue - APN 01-181-59. Related File VA H -DR. Planning Commission Minutes - 10 - July 22, 198 H. VARIANCE 87-08 _ BOWDEN - `A request to reduce minimum lot depth and minimum -net average lot area for a 2 acre parcel in the Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located ont he south side of Wilson Avvenue east of Mayberry Avenue - APN 01-181-59. Related File TPM 5996. Barbara Krall , ;Assitant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report on the parcel map. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report on the variance. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing . Mr. David Bowden, 1441 North Campus, owner of the property, stated the history of his current request. Nye was under the impression that the .zoning was changed after his first submittal in 198 to keep the two properties separate but now he believes the Commission' is proposing to connect them together. He is against the Planning Commission decision to change the zoning back to half acre lots, putting the two zoning lots back together. Mr. Randy Davis, 751 Cabrosa, stated the street should have been a cul- de-sac on .finally and he is now opposed to running the street through. If the stre L runs through, they would have to enter through the lower tract because of the way the temporary street gets closed off. The houses down there are worth clot less than the upper section and the traffic increase would be something'which he totally opposes. Mr. Peter ganger, resident at corner of Mayberry and Wilson, stated he 1 was opposed to the recommended change to Cabrosa of taking it down south. Futher', he was concerned about the zoning changes and the traffic flow in reagrds to the school children going to Hermosa. r. Bill Jones, representative of the Jones 'family, stated he was very opposed to the street going through affecting the children on the way to school , the zoning changes, and the increased traffic. They were one of the petitioners against the building of small houses. Today they have the half acre lots, attracting some very nice homes. He stated he was in favor of the Bowden subdivision ;but with the use of cul -de-sacs and not a` through street. r. Bowden stated there was a compatibility problem with the variance, arising from connecting the two zonings. This was the reason for changing the zoning initially to keep the zoning between the two properties apart. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner hitiea stated that Engineering has some very good reasons about connecting for access., She observed that the project to the south is very large, considerably more dense, and designed with its own internal road system and she believes connecting through this project Manning Commission Minutes - 11 - July 22, 1987 would encourage the higher density to use this neighborhood as a short cut up to Wilson. She is in favor of the development as proposed and because of the impact ;of the neighborhood to the south on this particular area, she would not support the recommendation by staff. Commissioner E' rick supported Commissioner Chitiea observations and stated the effect upon the variance of the applicant is requesting with a cul-de-sac design is minimal and he 'supports the variance with the cul-de-sac design. Commissioner Blakesley discussed fire access and understands engineering p.oint-of-view but does not have an objection to leaving it as a cul-de- sac. Commissioner Chi ti ea added that the map should have some notation that the placement of the structures should not preclude horekeeping. There is a 10 foot trail easement on the west side of the proposed uevel opment. Commissioner Dlakesley agreed this was an important notation.. Commissioner Chi ti ea moved approval of the resolution as proposed with the notation of equestrian trails on the map. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated the resolution needs one more modification for staff's alternative with the `following`language. 1. Temporary access to Wilson Avenue: a. A standard C' wide commercial drive approach shall be constructed on Wilson Avenue . The temporary` access shall be designed and constructed to spppport public service vehicles. The pavement shall be a minimum of C' wide. c. A 0' wide easement for public service vehicles shall be provided by separate instrument. d. The temporary access to Wilson Avenue shall be removed and the effected trail and sheet improvements along Wilson Avenue constructed at the time in the future that an alternate access s s is provided;. An agreement to this effect secured by a lien agreement against parcel I shall be executed to recordation of the parcel Map. Commissioner E `rick seconded the motion of approval . Motion carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes - 1 - duly 22, 1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICk, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried ITEM H issi oner Bl akesl ey moved to approve the resolution, Commissione i ti ea seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS- BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK, , CNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT* COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY --carried ASSESSMENT AND CONIDTIONAL USE PERMIT 87- 5 - BURK A eques es s nos 'cs s oo w n us ra ark District ubarea C), loco+ted at B6S6 Utica Avenue OO APN 20 - 142-18. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. Ms, Rdsann Burk..;, 84 Vineyard„ E, Rancho Cucamonga, addressed the main issues of parking and main hours of operation. Parking requirements are plus the maximum needed. Main hours begin at 3:30 (private lessons with the busiest hours after 5:30 p.m. Commissioner Chitiea questioned the sound attenuation of the building. r. Charles Oten , 7032 Jasper, Rancho Cucamonga, stated his approval of the gymnastics school : r. Christine Harris, Development Psychologist, Mated her support of the Dynasty Gymnastics School as it encourages physical fitness and personal growth. s, Druceann Hahn, 5087 Granada Court, Rancho Cucamonga, stated her support of the gymnastics school and addressed the issue of parking indicating she felt there' wasn't a ,problem. Planning Commission Minutes - 13 - July 22, 197 r. Michael Allen, 1123 Furwood Drive, addressed Commissioner Chitiea's question of sound attenuation. He stated sound devices are already existing in the studios and the level of music will be the same as used in the adjoining office buildings. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Bl akesl ey felt that sound levels are not a problem in the gymnasium. He didn't feel there was a problem with the; parking either'. Commissioner Blakesley moved to approve to ;grant the Conditional Use Permit Commissioner Chitiea 'seconded e the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA, E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY - carried J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT" 13666 - CARP COMPANY A propose o su vi aa acres d n s�ng e y o s 1 n e Low Residential District l - 4 dwelling units per acre) within the Etiwanda Sp cifc Plan, located at the southwest corner of Summit Avenue and Almond Street -'APN226-111-02. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing* r. Ube DiIorio, The Caen Company, 2834 Terry Road,, Laguna Beach, discussed the drawing which indicates both the project on the south side of Summit and the rest of the development. Of the 278 ages wit h two dwelling units per acre, they are preserving 38 acres to keep the wash in its natural state. Commissioner Emerick questioned the size of the lots and the rationale on why the lots are smaller on the south and larger on the north. They are giving u ° some acreage �n the g, San p Sevi ne Basin. r. DiIorio indic ated °the averag e lo t size �e 1S s 000 fe et g and the density becomes less when `headed toward the mountains. Commissioner Chitiea questioned if a trail location on the east side of the parcel had been settled. Planning Commission Minutes - 14` - July 22, 1987 Mr. Dilorio responded that he understood the recommendation of the Equestrian Trails Committee and it may require removal and the transplanting of the olive trees that are there now in order to get the rest of the tract map to work. To try to work the trail in and not hurt the olive trees really means the trail has to move 40 feet inside the property line which is awkward. There may be a desire to actually the equestrian onto the flood control property. They are concurring with the staff recommendation that the equestrian trail goes on their side of the property line. As the development for the big new San Sevine Basin moves al the property between the two loop roads is declared surplus, then it would benefit everyone to Book at that space as being usuable open space park land and obviously the equestrian hail will go through there. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Illakesley seconded the motion with the clarification of the; average lot size of 1.5,000 feet. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMEIII K, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: 4 ISSIp E S: TILSTOY --carried K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT7-01 -re ques o amen e''I_V­i`ctoriA_­­CoiiWuhi y an ex ore uce flee minimum required lot depth on 3,000 square foot lots from 75 feet to 60 feet, to reduce the 'minimum required lot depth on 4,000 square foot 'lots from 80 feet to 7U feet, and to require a minimum ten 10) foot front yard setback for the living area on 3,000 and 4,000 square foot lots. Chairman MNie1 ' opened the public hearing. r. Stephen Ford, William Lyon Company representative, stated concurrence with the staff report. Commissioner Ehitiea supported Chairman McNiel 's comments. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution, Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote. Planning Commission Minutes - 1 - July 22, 1987 AYES; COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, BLAkESLEY, MENIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLST Y --carried L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 7-19 - SHARING THE__`WORD`_FELLOWSHIP - The development as er an Church fiMity 55P ang cif a worship center, office building, classroom duliding, and multi-purpose building and a request to use the facility as a daycare center on a 3.87 acre parcel of land in the Low Density Residential District - 4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Jasper Street and Lomita Drive - APN 202-026-13. Associated with this project is T e Removal ' Permit 7-J4. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Murphy also submitted a letter from Mr, Lee H. Pearce, 716 Topaz Alta Loma, stating his support of the church facility. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Tom Matlock, architect, stated concurrence with the staff 'report. He indicated the preschool is not intended to be developed in Phase I. r. Jack Ottens felt that Topaz should be redesigned where Jasper school and Lomita there were stop signs. r. Carl Lewis,' moderator, 85 Burkeley,; Ontario, addressed the issue o undergrouning from mid Sierra Vista. There is no access and this would present a substantial financial burden on the congregation sine there are no means to pass the costs along. He questioned the landscaping issue stating they felt theyshouldn 't landscape property not belonging to them. s. Lori Johnson, 2436 North Euclid, Suite A, Upland requested the Commission consider waiving the undergrounding costs for this project since the 66 KV lines would not be removed and Edison is not sure they can take lines under the channel . The cost is $100,000 to run one lane underground and yet keep the existing poles. She also stated that General Telephone trunk lines on Foothill go nowhere. r. Bill Scheuell , 751 Sierra Vista, Alta Loma, suggested making the entrance off Jasper Street a cul -de-sac. r. Lloyd Michael , 5966 Sacramento,' stated for the church to underground would' be a considerable hardship on this piece of property. Planning Commission Minutes - 1 - July 22, 1987 i i Mr. Jim Cline, 8484 Lomita Drive, stated they concur with the staff's recommendation, the daycare center would be delayed and he acknowledged the traffic problem. Chairman McNiel clued the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea questioned the cul-de-sac issue. arrre Hanson, i Senior Civil Engineer, stated the tying cul -de-sac with Phase III makes sense. 1 i Chairman McNiel stated that undergroundi°ng utilities is a policy of this body. i Commissioner Chitiea agreed with Chairman Mc i el but felt this was a3 burden beyond 'reasonable doubt for the church since it was not their property. Chairman McNiel stated that each phase must; e conditions of Development Code. Commissioner Chitiea moved to approve the resolution as modified deleting the requirement for an in-lieu fee for the uhdergrounding for overhead utilities and to either landscape or contribute to the future City beautification project for the area, Commissioner Emer'ick seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES;' COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, E ERICK, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOL TOY -carried M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TE TAIVE TRACT 13445 - WILLIAM EYON resi en is racf su iii _ n o cores o a`n in o S single family lots in the Low-Medium Residential District (4 - B dwelling units per acre) within the Victoria Planned Community, 'located at the southwest corner of Victoria Park Lane and Rochester Avenue - AP'N 227-081- 4, 1U and 11. I I Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. i r* Stephen Ford, representative of William Lyon Company, stated they are in agreement with the conditions of the staff; reports as worded and expanded on the issue of recreational vehicle storage. The William Lyon Company proposed double car garages at the front of the units with single garage doors at the rear to allow passage through the garage and Planning Commission Minutes - 1'7 - July 22, 1987 storage of recreational vehicle in the rear yard area. A 5 to 5 1 foot fencing would be used to screen the area from public view. Commissioner Emerick questioned whether pass through garages doors for storage would be provided on all lots and if the areas behind the garages are to be paved. r. Ford responded to the questions indicating the recreational storage storage would be providided on 25 percent of the lots within the tract. The Lyon Company would not go in and pave but leave this option to the homeowner. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. garages e i imu pass through a Commissioner Emerick suggested that as _a minimum a required on percent of the lots and the option vailable to homeowners to allow pass through garages for storage on the remainder of the lots. Commissioner Chitiea questioned what tracts the recreational vehicle storage facility would be serving? Chairman McNiel' reopened the public hearing. r. Stephen Ford responded that it is provided to meet the 25 percent recreational vehicle requirement for the existing tracts: within the Windrows Village. He further' responded to the discussion that the 5 percent requirement of the Victoria Planned Community test was extreme and excessive. The 'other planned community does not have any provisions for recreational vehicle storage. Brad Sutler, City Planner, stated that the 25 percent requirement for recreational vehicle storage was intended to meet the needs of all types of recreational vehicles'. The applicant's proposal would not provide storage area for the larger vehicles. One option would be a' combination possibly fifteen percent on-site and ten percent 'off-site. This would still meet the 25 percent requirement. d h lotion as modified to o ' o resolution Commissioner �.ti ea moved a t. approve t include recreational storage fifteen percent on-site on individual lots and ten percent shall be provided in an off-site facility. Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following 'vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, EMENIC , BLA ,ESLEY, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: TCLSTOY --carried Planning Commission Minutes 18 - July 22, ,1987 i I i i N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 86-14 LEWIS request or the i s a ion mporary modul s Future to serve as an information center for Terra vista situated on a 50.90 acre parcel within the "Community Commercial " District of Terra Vista located on the northeast corner of Foothill and Haven I Avenue m APN 1077-4 1-OS. Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. i Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. r. John Melcher, representing Lewis Homes, concurred with the staff report excluding the Engineering Condition that Lewis Homes enter into a lien :agreement by which the monument sign, a feature of the Term Vista Community Plan, be removed if at sometime in the future the City decides to do a City special monument sign program. They feel this requirement is excessive since there is uncertainty if the plan will be put into effect and presupposes that such assign could be put on Lewis" property at the w `' ;Measure of the City almost without the Lewis" consent. They wou l k °er an environment in which they could work on this question in a cooperative; spirit. Chairman McNiel asked Mr;. Melcher for his suggestion for an alternate method of a lien agreement. r. Melcher felt it was uncertain as to whether a City special sign will sever be erected theme and since the project on the southeast corner of the intersection and: the project on the northwest' corner of the intersection enjoy improvements already and since their cooperation would' also be enlisted to make this a uniform program all the way around the intersection; he seriously doubts lien agreements exist on those properties, he would prefer to have the Condition deleted altogether. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick stated that in Design Review he questioned the use of brie in the end of the signs. He felt this was part. of Terra Vista. Chairman McNiel; stated the attractiveness of the center that has been proposed. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City; Attorney,, agreed with Mr. Melcher stating the 3 it would be unusual to force the building of a sign on a piece of property, however, there is the possi bl i ty in the future when these site develops there might be other criteria for signs and in that instance it . might come n o 1 g t play.. Arbitrarily tearing dawn the sign probably would not be feasible. He would only see it Changing as part of other development on the site. Planning Commission Minutes - 19 - July< , 1987 Commissioner Chitiea questioned whether this was not typical of what was being done in the Industrial Specific Plan area, siting the example of the Bixby Ranch property and others places in the City, regarding major intersections and going hack in and replacing sigh with monument signs. r. Hanson felt the actual mechanisms for going in and changing those signs are fully worked out at this point, the general designs have been laid out. Commissioner Chitiea stated Bixby _Ranch had agreed to remove it_be cause they wanted their own sign in place. Chairman McNiel asked Mr. Mel her if he would be a i nabl e to some type of a letter of agreeement for the record that would indicate that Lewis Homes and the City would work cooperatively if a sign program does come into effect. Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested the same procedure that was done at Bixby. r. Melcher responded that the problem with this is not specific with the intersection at all , they are very sensitive to the City's aspirations for the intersection are and it seems highly likely based on what o s seen of the designs of the Terra Vista flown Center project, that g p the l' m .a lack �n the process of developing�n the corner y, y c er `in the final form p to remove the sign. The sign may not work at all with the design. The problem is with the Terra Vista Plan commits them to a series of monumentations on the corners in a hierarchy, major gateways and second gateways, and a hire t t step g t ewa . Mr. Melcher felt the Condition of the lien agreement was just too tough and heavyhanded of the City. Commissioner Chitiea expressed her concern that this building not b given an open ended time limit and that it is at the corner of Haven and Foothill if something should happen to the other project. She would like to see a two-year time limit placed on it at this time which could e reviewed. Chairman McNiel stated they do need an information center to direct people and felt it was not unattractive. Mr. McNiel felt that rather than a limit of two ;years, he would be inclined to tie it together with the development of the corner as opposed to putting a cap time on it. Commissioner Chitiea stated she was not comfortable with something that was completely open ended, she felt it needs review, and doesn't see any reason if there is a problem why it can't be extended but at least there is the option to come back and look at it to see if it is still appropriate. Planning Commission Minutes - 20 - duly 22, 197 i Commissioner Emerick moved to approve the resolution as modified, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, SLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, 'CNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ASSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY x --carried . ENVIRONMENTAL SESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY AMENDMENT e Vista Planned- una 3+ by establishing a Business park Overlay Zone for areas designated as Office Park, Commercial , and Mixed ;Use, 'within the planned community boundary* Nancy Fong Associate Planner, ; presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. John Melcher, representative of Lewis Homes, Mated they had withdrawn :this item several months ago to modify it to conform to the advice given by the staff and now reach that goal . If the Commission approves to include the dance' and martial arts studio in the section Nancy Fong recommends them, they would be happy with them. On the subject of the percentage of the floor area in the retail studios, Mores, and associated workrooms, the percentage that might be used for other than showroom purposes is about 50 percent of what originally was needed. This figure was arrived with discussion with staff and asked that it not be reduced below 35 percent. ' l Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated that the 35 percent was something the staff was comfortable with. This depends on the type of area and the tenant. j Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea indicated' her concern regarding in doing this is that the Commission is approving a change to retails One of the reasons that this was Office/Professional had to do with buffering, a part of transition from this residential area and it seems the change would put commercial right up against residential She would not be uncomfortable with changing the two pieces directly adjacent to the corner where it is indicated CC, but across the road should remain as is. She felt there wasn't a need to increase the commercial load and the land use across the road would betters as a transition as Office/Professional . Commissioner Emerick concurred with Commissioner Chi ti ea's comments. Lewis Homes has been objecting to any more inclusion of commercial or the expansion of commercial along Foothill Boulevard, yet on the other Planning Commission Minutes - 21 - duly 22, 1987 hand it looks like they are trying to get the possiblity of additional commercial uses in the O/P zone by the overlay. This seems to be an inconsistency in their attitude. Chairman McNiel stated the need to facilitate the needs of the people that are moving into the two communities, to blanket overturn this Terra Vista Community Plan, which was agreed to, does not make sense. Some change is alright, but to make a complete turnabout is a mistake. Chairman 14cNiel agreed with Commissioner Chi tiea's comment on the transition/buffering zone. Commissioner Blakesley questioned the wording of "building supply stores" which could mean industrial . Staff indicated that this was a typographical error in the staff report. The word "building" should read "beauty" supply store. Commissioner Blakesley suggested to add the word equipment after telecommunications. Commissioner Chitiea moved to adopt the resolution as modified. Commissioner Emerick seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS.* BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY * * * * * --carried P. MODIFICATION AND TIME EXTENSION FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 85-06 LINCOLN - The development of 624 i5P of land in the Medium-High Residential District ( 14 - 24 dwelling units per acre) , located on the north side of Arrow Route, west of Haven Avenue - AP N 208-241-16 and 17. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Paul Dennis, representing Lincoln Property Company, concurred with the staff report. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved to approve the resolution, including the time extension and the redesign of the office building and swimming pool . Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL Planning Commission Minutes - 22 - July 22, 1987 I NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOO STCV -carried Q. TRACT 13542 DESIGN REVIEW - GRIGSBY - 'Design Review of building elevations an p 0-lans-f-d-r-PhatCrof a previously approved tract map, consisting of 96 single family lots ` in the Low Density Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre), loomed between Nilsor ­ie, and Banyan Street, east of Chaffey College a APN 01- 191_1'1" portion of 01-191-11. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Mr. Michael Vairin, representing Grigsby Development, stated the project tries to encourage arhitectual design around all sides of the building. He did question the' window trim condition, however. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick responded to the wood framed windows stating that on the Design Review Committee they Wanted to forward this to the Co i si n s attention to have the condition address the policy in regards to the 3600 architecture. 4n this type of house,` Mr. Vairin felt there was enough going on. Chairman McNiel stated the question here was whether to accent the depth and dimension that is already being with wood as additional detail . Commissioner Rlakesl ey stated the design could become too ""busy" , and this is a quality project. Commissioner Emerick stated the developer use good 'discretion. Commissioner Blakesley roved approval of the resolution. Commissioner Emerick pointed out the street trees that were going to be used, sycamore and alder trees. Brad Buller, City Planner, suited the Engineering Depa ent would not want to see anymore alder trees used. Alder trees do crack pavement and it depends on the watering system that is put around them. Mr. Vairin noted the high success rate of alders in Geer Creek and in industrial areas. The alders have been successful in very restricted areas. They propose to put ahem in deep-root boxes and have proper water. The reason Commissioner Emerick raised this issue was to >try to get some encouragement from the Commission to allow Grigsby to proceed forward to the Engineer with some credibility. Alders and sycamores are Planning Commission Minutes - 23 duly 22, 1987 the best trees to plant in a windy environment. Commissioner E erick supports and encourages the use of alder and sycamore trees `as a street tree. Commissioner Chi ti ea agrees with the use of alder and sycamore trees. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion of Commissioner Ererick"s excluding the window trim condition. Chairman McNiel suggested to Mr. Vairin that they use their own discretion and judgment in detail and design for the windows to keep up the qual i ty. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES:` COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -_carried COWISSION BUSINESS There was no further Commission Business at this time. ADJOURMWMT Commissioner Emerick moved to adjourn, Commissioner Rlakes ey seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote. 1 : 5 A.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Deputy Secretary Planning Commission Minutes - 24 - July 22, '1987 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 08, 198 Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga =�inhing Commission to order at 7: a p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park Community Center, 916 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then fled in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesle , Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emerick, Larry McNiel , peter Talstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad 'Buller, City Planner; Otto routil , Deputy City Planner, Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner; Greg Cage, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Andrew Arcynski ,; City Attorney; Cetera Meier, Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner; rand.. Karen Kissack, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEPENTS Brad 'Buller, City Planner, updated the information regarding the tour of the lakes The William Lyon Company will be preparing a video of lake systems throughout southern California Difficulty in coordination of schedules has canceled the lakes tour entirely. He also announced City Council selected a subcommittee to work; on the Victoria Lakes with, a subcommittee from the Planning Commission. Mr. Buller suggested the subcommittee selection be held as the last item of the agenda. CO Commissioner Chitiea requested Item 8 be removed from the Consent Calendar. Mr. pied Lukau requested Item A be removed from the Consent Calendar. . ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW _0; - MARTIN The eve oilmen d a square od industrial a-are 'ouse building on 10.8 acres of land in the Minimum Impact Heavy Industrial District (Subarea 9) , located at the southwest corner of Jersey Boulevard and Vincent Avenue - AP ' - 09- 143-13 and 11. Commissioner Tolstoy moved, Commissioner Chi ti ea seconded the adoption of Item C. Motion carried by the following vote: 1 A MERICIi, IEL T0L STOP" AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY CH TIC , E , NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried A. RESOL0TION OF APPROVAL FOR MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 86- - SOLOMON ques o e ow s e oar ramp n e rear yardaria o a single' family located at 10007 Man anita 0rive APN 01-891-11. (Continued from June 24, 1987) . Mr. Fired Lukau addressed the Commission regarding the Solomon skateboard stating most neighbors ignored the letters sent out and he was here in` a position of opposition. r. Lukau questioned privacy and fencing around the ramp. Chairman Mc Niel reiterated that the Commission has conditioned this project quite heavily. Mr. Buller stated, that fencing was discussed but not conditioned, ;he further suggested Mr. Solomon could consult with his neighbors as to the type of landscaping/plant materials they would desire. Mrs. Sandra Lukau addressed the Commission stating her concerns were privacy and screening of the skateboard ramp. She also questioned the issue of the ladder when not in use. Chairman McNiel suggested the removal of the ladder when the skateboard is not in use. rs. Lukau requested an extension since her neighbors- were not ,present at this meeting to support their opposition. Chairman McNiel stated the meetings are published in The Gaily Report and the neighbors initially involved in the complaint against the skateboard were informed. Mr. McNiel reiterated the restrictions and is not inclined to an extension of two weeks. Planning Commission Minutes 2 July 08, 1987 I Mr. Mark Solomon stated he was very approachable on the conditions and did not want to lose the ramp. He was more than willing to comply with the restrictions. Commissioner Tolstoy moved adoption of the resolution with the amendment of the condition that the ladder shall be removed when the skateboard ramp' is not is use. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS,* BLAK,ESL Y, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLST Y NOES: COMMISSIONERS-. NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: OBE -carried B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-22 - MESSENGER e development 6f`­a_-­War-ebOu-se industrial u ing o; , 38 square feet on 12.6 acres of land within the Gene %N �mstrial District (Subarea 14) , located on the east side f Allita 'Drive Avenue approximately 1,800 feet north of 4th Street - APN 229-321-14, 15, 16. Commissioner Chitiea voiced her concern regarding, the plaza details and color samples be processed through Design Review before proceeding. o further discussion was heard. Commissioner Chitiea moved approval with the modification that the plaza details and color samples be processed through Design Review. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried with the following vote* AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA, E ERICK MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried PUBLIC H i D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13367 - PENNNILL e v065ffiifit bf a 19 l6t i0aiVision on 37 acres o and in the Low Residential District -4 dwelling units per acre) , located west of the intersection of Amethyst .Street and Highland Avenue - AN 0 -711-01, 0 , 03. The applicant has also filed' a Tree Removal Permit. Related File VA 87-0 . Planning Commission Minutes 3 July ON, 1987 VARIANCE 7-0 - PEN HILL DEVELOPMENT request to reduce the tn�rmum corner si e ' yar se ac rom 27 feet to 23 feet on a existing 25,000 square foot lot in the Low Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre), located west of the intersection of Amethyst Street and Highland Avenue APN 207-711-03. Related File TT 13367. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. 'Wayne Blatton, 743 Birch, Upland, California, appeared before the Commission accepting the conditions of the staff report and the Resolution. Since there were no further comments, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea questioned whether all the walls are decorative and consistent throughout® Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the eater problem on Amethyst, what was being done to control it. arre Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, provided information regarding the water stating that there should not be a problem as it cuts easterly above the fire station, it does not get' to the intersection of Amethyst and 19th. This tract would not contribute to the drainage problem. Russ:.:Maguire, City Engineer, stated that one of the conditions required d the developer to participate in c i y capital project. Mr. Blatton reported that there were drainage problems but were solved early in the project. Commissioner Tol stay moved approval of Item D with the modification of Condition 4 of the Resolution requiring conistem decorative walls.. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion, Motion carried by the following vote: T_O YES. COMMISSIONERS: BL,AESLEY NITIEA E ERC�, CNEL TOLS_ NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ITEM E Commissioner Chi ti d moved, Commissioner Tol stoy seconded to approve the Variance Motion unanimously carried by the following vote: Planning Commission Minutes 4 July DB, 1987 II' I AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA, EME ICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried '1 F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITION USE PERMIT 87-23 - PACIFIC . X__mquest to RUBMH a MFEH within an exi Flu industrial complex in the General Industrial District (Saba ), located at the northeast corner of 6th Street and Utica Avenue - APN 09-411-17. Greg Gage, Assitant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman `cNiel opened the public hearing. Ms. Eileen Kramer, representative of Pacific Scene, was present to answer any questions. Since th- no additional public comments, Chairman McNiel closed the publ ° Ong. Commissioner Emerick moved to adoption the resolution, Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following tote* AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLY, CHITIEA, EMERICK CN1EL, TOLSTOY i NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE I ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT< AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-17 - e eve oilmen o' a 5 buildingIca UM5 comp e o a Ong 7,OOG square feet, with Phase I being a 3- story 54,000 square 'foot medical office and ambulatory care center n 4 acres of land in the Industrial "Park District (Subarea 7), located at the southwest side of Eucalyptus Street and Red Oak Street - APN 208-351-25. Related Files PM 10696 and DR 87-25. S. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT' REVIEW 87-26 - BARTON - The eve o n o a . acre m e use Master Plan -consisting of 14 acre Medical Office and 25.39 acre Administrative/Professional Office in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 7), located on the north side of Civic Center Drive between White Oak Street and Red Oak Street - APN 08-351- 5 and 26.' Related to this project is the request to amend the Rancho Cucamonga Business Park Master Plan by redesigning the subject site from Corporate Plaza to RMedical Office Planning Commission Minutes 5 July 08, 1987 i he . � '° and the deletion of s�anal Office,and Administrative/professional : publicstreet connec tion on through the site area. Related Files CUP - 7 and PM 10696. H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMCNT AND PARCEL ;1�169 - HARTGN pEVFImi --the u 1 v1 si on o acres o an n o payee 1 n n us ri l Park Development District Subarea 7 bounded by White Oak Street, Red Oak Strut and Civic Center Drive - APN 48- 51- 5, 6. Related Files CUP 7-17 and DR 87- 5. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented a combined report on Items, G, S, and H. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Dale Frisbee, representative of Barton Development, stated they had reviewed the report and agree with the conditions of approval . Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tol stoy commented on Item G with regards building orientation site layout in consideration to wind protection. Patient pickup service should be poked at more carefully and: should not interfere with parking. Since this facility is primarily for day surgery, Air. Tol stay felt the patient pickup area should be redesigned so that it would not be subject to wind and better �rcul ation for patient pickup through the parking lot. Consideration of a porte- cochere might add some archi tectual interest in addition to protecting the patients during inclimate weather. Commissioner Chitiea agreed with Commissioner Tolstoy on his concerns. She pointed out the applicant had suggested landscaping on the other side of the driveways for the first 60 feet which was not included in the conditions of the Resolution. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. r. Frisbee addressed the specific issues brought up' by Commissioners Tolstay and Chitiea Redesign of the patient pickup and service and the parking lot layout out could be worked out with staff. Commissioner Tdlstoys pointed out the need for an access or large berm as protection from wind, rain, inclimate weather to which Rancho Cucamonga is subject. Mr. Marvin Hershberg, representing CH MS, recognized the Commission's concerns and stated most patients are escorted to the car in a wheelchair by a nurse. They are not opposed to working with staff in regards to the`wind`items raised. Chairman McNiel reclosed the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes 6 July 08, 1987 Commissioner Tolstoy moved approval of Item O with modification that the patient pickup service area, parking lot, and landscaping at the entry shall be redesigned and submitted for review and approval by the Design Review Committee. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion carried with the following vote: AYES:' COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA ERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: ."U ISSIONERS: NONE --carried Commissioner Tolstoy moved approval of Item; H, Commissioner Olkesley seconded the motion. Motion was unanimously carried with the following vote:' AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES:` COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: ­,tAISSIONERS: NONE * --carried Commissioner Tolstoy moved approval of Item S with modification that the patient pickup service area, parking lot, and landscaping at the entry shall be redesigned and submitted for review and approval by the Design Review Committee. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the motion, Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E EPICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * --carried 1. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13318 - MAYFLOWER - A to-a! rest 'en i eve o en egg een sing a amp y o s of five (5) acres of lard in the Low Density Residential District ( - dwelling units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Hermosa Avenue and Manzanita Drive - APN 01-1 -2N, Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.' IlChairman McNiel opened the public hearing* Mr. Bill Ajami , representative of Mayflower Homes, 6835 Southmore Drive, Anaheim, California <92807, agreed with the conditions of the Resolution. Planning Commission Minutes 7 July 08, 1987 r. Michael Young, ; 1808 Hermosa Street', Rancho Cucamonga, stated this mum entire area has been devastated through the growth and would like to see horse property two houses per acre., r. Jerry; Eller, 5951 Elmhurst, Rancho Cucamonga , would lie to see one-half acre lots and remain equestrian area. He recommends equestrian trails be put through the development. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick moved the adoption of the Resolution as presented. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. (lotion was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: SLAESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TCLSTY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried J. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 86-24 MODIFICATION - PLANNING GROUP -' reques o me y a con ion o approva requiring the undergrounding of existing overhead utilities along 8th Street for a proposed convenience sales and service center at the northeast corner of Vineyard Avenue and 8th Street '- AP ` 01-0 - 5. Narrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Commissioner Emerick questioned Mr. Hanson if the property owners of Parcels 27 and 18 could share in the cost of undergrounding? Commissioner Chitiea questioned whether Parcel 27 and 18 had been developed yet.` In response, Mr. Hanson said they have not:., at least a formal request had not been made. The 'little sliver (Parcel 19 and 16) belongs to flood control . Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. Jim DeAgarello 444 North Arrowhead, San Bernardino, California, owner of the property and the Planning Group stated they can not develop with the costs than they are faced_ with now. Either the property stays vacant vacant or it gets some relief to do something nice for the city. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick noted this was a model example of a hardship case because of the strict application of the undergrounding ordinance. Even with the request for the relief requested, this is still burdensome and would constitute a hardship. Mr. Emerick is willing to grant relief. Commissioner Tolstot agreed with Commissioner Emerick on sharing the burden of undergrounding with Panels 18 and 27. This should be done when these parcels come before the Commission for development. There Planning Commission Minutes 8 July U8, 1987 are instances where the property owner can not be burdened anymore; the city, with the commitment of undergrounding, should help with the undergrounding to help find funds for the undergrounding. Commissioner Blakesley was impressed with the opportunity to upgrade the corner and agreed with both the comments of Commissioners Tol stoy and Cmerick. Commissioner Chitiea felt there were some difficulties involved with asking par` ° x� n the other side of the channel to go clear across the channel and nten some to meet with this property. The cost here is extremely high; the costs could be split'over the channel . Chairman McNiel stated the city's commitment is to undergrounding. Flood control people are going to do nothing about undergrounding. His posture would be to ensure that this parcel be undergrounded and possibly be split between> the three applicants, possibly an in-lieu fee of the 260 feet or a lien agreement, the best option. The burden of this property was reflected in the purchase price. He felt the applicant `'should not be completely relieved' of the responsibility to underground. Commissio, ea felt that the idea of undergrounding utilities was not sometniii ne developer was unaware of in the purchase of the property, assuming it is part of a business dealing. Commissioner Cmerick agreed with Commissioner Chitiea's comments but still felt that he was faced with a windfall' or wipeout situation with respect to the increased cost of undergrounding. Chairman McNiel felt that if the Commission started accepting this, type of waiver, they might as well forget the goal of undergrounding. Chairman Emerick was still not Persuaded with the discussion and was still prepared to go ahead and vote for the resolution. Commissioner Tol stoy stated the City would have to cut loose with some type of funding to complete the undergrounding in situations like this where it is a public entity, the flood control district, and if the City is as 'committed as we claim it is, it should be willing in some cases to go out and do the unergroudinw Commissioner Emerick proved approval of the resolution, Commissioner laeley seconded the motion. Before calling for the questions, Chairman McNiel felt the Commission was making a serious mistake and we ;would be chewing on this distasteful situation for; some time, "we are loading the weapons of the enemy." Chairman McNiel called for the vote; vote carried as follows; AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESL Y, EMERIC , TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITILA, MCNI L ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried. Planning Commission Minutes g July CH, 1987 Chairman McNiel and Commissioner Chi ti ea clarified their "No" vote for the above reasons stated. 8: 0 p.m. _ Planning Commission Recessed :SOR,m. :- Planning Commission Reconvened Chairman McNiel stated that before continuing with Item K, a request to continue Item V - HOE OCCUPATION PERMIT 87- - CISNEROS - Appeal of staff"s decision denying a o ccupa -1 on err a b Sundande Drive, was announced. He asked if anyone in the audience was attending to speak in regards to that issue. Commissioner Chitiea mowed, Commissioner Emerick seconded to continue Item Y to August 12, 1987. Motion carried by the 'following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 10771- THE DEER CREEK su 1v1 `ono acres OT landinto Rafte in the Co-W—TT-4 dwelling units per acre) Residential District 'located between Nilson Avenue and Banyan Street west of the Deer Creek Channel - APN 01-191-17. arre Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel' opened the public hearing. r. Michael Yairin, representative of Grigsby Development, stated they are in concurrece with the conditions of the staff report. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Co i ssi over Chi ti ea moved approval , Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMI RICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Planning Commission Minutes 10 July d 1987 c w a * � € �- a a �..f i f .. *., i«� a 1. $:'. . t:^ . i W: i it � i,, �, • -. f *:.. ® t i,: • f:. "� f of � i �, + , ca � � �a a � �, od r „ f � M ti f� f _ ii �, i • M � f ; f � i � a .� i f o f a �' t t � r �; e � � � � w d „ '"� i ff " � r �` f i i i i i f i f f ' i "` f f " is f « ', ff � i • " "` • i f . o f F 'f f i i i f s i « f � i i 'M i f. � f.. "f r i ' i e "" f i °" • . `f i f f i i �° e r 8 � ■ f' i , f e i' > . . 's f r M i • f .. :.... „f :. i ,*:.; '. '.. i f is" , i - !; i f r f f ^ o f i . � � r . f f f � �• Commissioner Blakes 'ey agreed with the comments of Commissioners Chitiea and Tolstoy and this was an opportunity to upgrade beyond what Jack-in- the-Box has done. Chairman McNi el stated he agreed with the rest of the Commissioni except that the surroudning properties are such that there is a consistency with the variance. The sheet from Archibald to Malven woul d be developed consistently and agrees it does not meet the current code and from Malven east the road has yet to be expanded.. He did not see that this conflicts to any great extent with what is being done with grew and thine the variance is appropriate. Chairman McNiel moved to approve the resolution as prepared by staff for the variance. Motion died due to the lack of a second. Commissioner Emerick proposed resolution to deny the granting of the variance based upon the fact that the Commission cannot make the findings required for the variance required by state law. Commissioner Chitiea seconded the proposal . Commissioner Emerick clarified the necessary finding it cannot make is the hardship is self imposed upon the property by the applicant/developer in the manner which he has proposed. Motion to deny the variance was carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY* CHITIE , EMERICK, TOLSTOY NOES. COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL ASSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Chairman McNiel clarified his "No" vote by the reasons stated above, Brad Buller, City Planner, was questioned about the action on the Conditional Use Permit. He stated there would be some modifications to the site plan that would have to occur. He also i ndi catd that staff would have to bring back a Resolution of Denial for the variance since one was not prepared for this meeting.Also as a result of the denial of the variance the Commission may wish to entertain to the applicant whether he would consider to a continuance in order to work with staff in the design review and go back through that process to modify his plans to where a variance is not needed. If this did not occur the action of the Commission should be to deny the Conditional Use Permit. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes 12 July 08,` 1987 I I Mr. Barbar ian expressed his disappointment. Chairman McNiel questioned the applicant whether he would accept a continuance. Mr. Barbarmian agreed to the ;continuance, but asked if the Commission would reconsider their action on the variance if he designed his project and reduced the variance request, Brad Buller, City Planner;, stated the options for the Commission at this pointy are reconsideration of the action on the variance or only take action with the applicant's 'consent to continue the Conditional use Permit and t 'staff work wi tht he applicant to bring the site plan into full compliance with the code. Commissioner 81 akesl ey stated he would not be opposed ' to reconsidering the variance option. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would not want to reconsider. Chairman McNiel stated he would support reconsideration of the reco endeO, -*'on on the variance.` Andrew Arcynski , Deputy City Attorney, stated we should not mislead the applicant in that if the decision to deny the variance is sustained two weeks from tonight when the matter comes to a formal vote on the resolution of denial , he will be foreclosed for one year for filing again for a variance on his property, any variance of a substantially similar nature. i i Commissioner Emerick stated, in light of Mr. Arc nski 's comments, he would change his vote. He would like to hold open the possibility that the applicant could come back and make a stronger showing of hardship, that he can't develop the property in an appropriate runner and that if the request for variance wasn't as dramatic as this, he might be more amenable to granting a variance, he did not want to foreclose him for one ,dear. Commissioner Emerick moved to undo the prior recommendation with respect to denying the variance Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote: AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESL Y, E ERICK, MCNIEL NOES. COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA TCLSTCY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried As a point of clarification, Chairman Mc Niel stated this gives the applicant the opportunity to work with staff on the CUP and the variance and it will be continued to August 12, 1987. Planning Commission Minutes 13 duly 08, 1987 Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing upon the counsel of Arczynski. Since there were4no comments, public hearing was then closed. Commissioner E erick moved to continue the Conditional Use Permit and variance request by the applicant to August 12, 1987. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote; AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, E ERICK IEL, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHI "IEA ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried Commissioner Chitiea clarified her "No" vote in regards to the variance issue. N. E VIRO E T L ASSESSMENTAND TENTATIVE TRACT 13063 - CITATION total resi ean , eve op n o sing e --family s on sores of land in the Lout Density Residential District ( 4 dwelling units per ac re), within the Etiwanda Specific ' Plan, located on the east side of East Avenue at Catalpa` Street - APN 7 071-C 1, and 20. Associated with the proposal is Tree Removal Permit 7-44 A request to iremove 270 Eucalyptus globulas (Blue Gum) trees. h Associate Planner, presented the staff report.Scott Murphy, _, p rt. He P__ clarified that Condition S, N-19, regarding the decorative block wall along Etiwanda High School site should be modified to state minimum hei hth shall be six feet. He also indicated that Design Review recommends the additional use of rock or brick into the front elevations of the buildings. The Design Review Committee felt it should be more extensive and that a condition of approval should be included. Commissioner Chi tiea questioned the City Engineer about the item of flood control that heeded to be addressed. Russ Maguire, city Engineer, stated, as a point of information, that this tract is in the upper Etiwanda drainage area (Suba a o) . In order for it to develop as areas to the north, it needs the use of the Victoria Retention Basin, whic h is the property of the fl ood control district. Engineering has been working with them for some time and have worked out most of the problems. The Basin will be improved to an extent that it will be usable in conjunction to the construction with the second phase of the Day; Creek project and the extension of the channel north of the basin to which this particular one will drain directly in will be constructed as part of Phase I, Etiwanda drainage improvements. He noted ' that these projects will take at least eight months to one year and three months to complete and both must be in place and operation before we can allow this tract to connect and develop. Planning Commission Minutes 14 duly CH, 1987. Mr* Jerry Litton, representing the ; applicant, Citation Builders, requested clarification from the City Engineer regarding the basin. He accepts the conditions in the resolution. r. Gary Collins, 115 Catalpa Street, questioned the five foot wall on East : Avenue stating there are some open spaces which he hoped to see remain. Commissioner Chitiea asked Mr. Collins if there were any neighborhood greetings contlucted. r. Collins said he had read a sign stating the meeting, but his primary concern was the wall. In response to a question from Chairman McNiel , Scott Murphy stated the requirement for the wall is the result of the acoustical report and the necessary mitigation when East Avenue is improved and other parcels developed. Commissioner Chi ti ea stated that the orientation as to having the block "wal Is facia , to East Avenue was not considered.` Commissioner Emerick in response to her. Collin"s comment on the wall stated the reason the developer decided to lots to the west direction was because of engineering concerns having driveway accesses on East Avenue, which is a much busier street than arterial streets such as B Street® Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that East Avenue is designated a four lane secondary arterial street. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick questioned whether the sidewalk would be right along the wall , could we soften the wall`. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated it was a standard 12 foot parkway and sidewalks are traditionally at the wall in the city. Commissioner Emerick felt that; sidewalks against the wall are unattractive and there seems to be broken glass since people throw bottles up against walls; He felt there may be a way to soften the wall by indentations in the wall , especially in the Etiwanda area. Commissioner Blakesley agreed with Commissioner Emerick stating: he did not like the sidewalk on the street nor right adjacent to the wall . Chairman McNiel questioned the depth of the lots. Scott Murphy responded 19 feet. Planning Commission Minutes 15 July CS, 1987 Commissioner Emerick questioned who would maintain the area outside wall Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the parkway would already be conditioned into the existing 'landscape maintenance district. Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that the developer work with the staff and there be a landscape easement sufficient enough to help mitigate the impact of the wall to the street. Commissioner Emerick agreed with the City Planner and felt the design and plant materials should be low maintenance and drought resistant t minimize the City' cost of maintenance and lower our water usage through time. Commissioner Chitiea appreciates Mr. Collins' concern for the character of Etiwanda, however, the subject of safety as well as noise factors justified the City to retain this particular configuration for the site plan She was in favor in allowing the most flexibility in allowing the applicant to work with the City Planner in redesigning the parkway to soften the effect. Chairman McNiel` reopened the public hearing. r. Litton stated there were only five lots affected and it takes backyard space, but requested consideration since a major street would go through t e project. The would appreciate s much rear and s the p .Y p p _ y could get. They would work with staff on this issue. Mr. Richard Fuerestian, 8331 Utica Rancho Cucamonga, stated the design for East 'Avenue is set out in the Etiwanda Specific Plan. He was concerned that the Commission runts something ' different and wanted clarification on this issue, Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff would continue to use the Etiwanda Specific Plan and would make sure what is approved i consistent with the Etiwanda Plan. Mr. John Holt, 5335 Carnelian Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated back east it is not unusual to find a home turned around so the driveway comes in from the back, you could reorient the houses to face East Avenue, there's no law stating you have to come in from Cast Avenue. Chairman McNiel closed the hearing. Commisioner Emerick moved adoption of the resolution with the modifications of added brick/rock to the front of the; house elevations and referral to staff the detailed landscape of wall plans for East Avenue. This may include the requirement of an additional landscape easement. In addition, make the 5; 1/ 'foot Mock wall along Etiwanda High ;School a 'minimum of 6 fleet. Commissioner Tol 'toy seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote:; Planning Commission Minutes 16 July 08, 1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: DLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK,° MC I L, TOLSTQY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried U. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESS E T AND TENTATIVE ;TRACT 1541 - LANE - The eve oilmen o a o cis om subdivision on 4.3 acres of land in the Low Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre) , located north 'of Red Hill Country Club Drive at Sierra Vista - APN 07-41 - f0 07-080-01 and 48. The applicant has also filed a Tree Removal Permit. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report: He stated that a number of letters related to the project had been received. A petition signed by 12 homeowners' expressed their concern about the I connection of Sierra Vista to Red Hill Country Club Drive and their proposal t Sierra Vista become a cul-de-sac. The applicant has received copies of the letters and has reviewed them. Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. Mr. Tony Mize, representative of the applicant A1lmark, Inc. , stated through the two Design Review Committee meetings most questions and problems have been worked out. They agree with all the conditions of the staff report. He addressed the concerns of Mrs. Dufrese' letter regarding the lot at Country Club and Sierra Vista to the west specifically the drainage problem is going to be resolved very adequately because the mount of water that has historically flowed down the hill into the people's backyards is going to be virtually eliminated by grading and channeling the water out into the street or some minor surface water through specific easements. They are obligated by law to control the dint problem during construction. The driveway Mrs. Dufrese will be able to put in once they have the street in and they will allow for her approach. He could not address the sidewalk issue. As ;approve by staff, they are rewired to put in the sidewalk. It is his understanding they are complying with the preservation of the trees Mrs. Dufrese has. There is some landscaping out at the approach for the radius at Country Club and Sierra Vista which will come dorm which is part of the other problems to be addressed. On the second letter from the neighborhood residents, they worked very diligently in trying to look at all the different ways in making everyone comfortable in what they were doing. One of the thoughts was to not go onto 'Country Club Drive, perhaps bring Sierra Vista down to the bottom and then create a cul-de-sac. This was unequivocally denied by the Foothill Fire District because of the distance from the nearest street from the nearest street to the end of the cul-de-sac; it violates every ordinance they have relative to that, there is just no way to approve that from their point- Planning Commission Minutes 17 July 08, 1987 of-view. This meant going back to the original design which was master planned and approved and that was that Sierra Vista would ultimately run all the way through to Red hill Country Club Drive. As far as the traffic flow that is occurring on the hill in that area, to the south there is a higher density use , being the condominiums facing off the hill you have very curved linear streets, the solution may be a four- way stop at that intersection of Sierra Vista and Red :Hill Country Club Drive. Basically, there are curves coming from both ways and` a busy ingress-egress from the condo; project and you will have some traffic on Sierra Vista making this a very logical place to place a four-way stop. In May 1982, Dr. powers and the 'Dufrese granted to the owners of the ;property the land that would create the radius needed at the intersection to allow for all codes to be met. In exchange for granting that property, small strips of land by the developer were exchanged f h` right- o {:a i has been e only needed feet or the si nce nce t y 9 intended to be street and has gone all the way through the process through tentative wrap approval designed as a 'street. Regarding, the vi sabi l i ty aspect, Mr. Mi se stated that when those radius areas are developed with a sheet and all the tall shrubbery that is now sitting in that area is eliminated, the visa'bility will be much greater and the intersection situation were a four-way stop would solve all the problems. r. Joseph Powers, 46412 Sierra Vista, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he has used this lot as an access to his residence for 26 years. He has no objection to the project, but feels that a through street was not an appropriate way of using this lot since it is a real hazard. It should not open onto Country Club Drive due to the speed. His major objection was it being a hazard and feels the best use would be Its use only as a fire road rather than a straight through street. r. Thomas Lindley, 8479 Canino Sur, expressed his concerns regarding Sierra Vista. This street was never meant to be a thoroughfare, it is only C feet wide. A, cul-de-sac at the top (entrance to the p of the project would be the best idea. The turn on Camino Sur from Sierra Vista is a very sharp turn now and with the increase of traffic flow on Sierra Vista, ipeople will this as a through and will create a terrific traffic flow problem. With regards to the suggestion of a four-way stop at Red Hill Country Club Drive and Sierra Vista, it seems the developer is aging the City to alter the traffic flows on Red Hill to accommodate his devel,opment. This is one of the oldest neighborhoods in Rancho Cucamonga, changing the traffic to accommodate a small development is culture shock. ; r. Leland Swanson,' 7989 Sierra Vista, has lived on this street for 37 years. For 40 years, the street has been chained off or dirt blocked off to keep the residents from making it a thoroughfare which has been respected. The safety of the children and drivers would be put in jeopardy ;if it was made a through street. His recommendation/and suggestion would be the entrance from Red Hill Country Club drive' be brought up to the present cul-de-sac and made a south cul-de-sac for the southern part of Sierra Vista. The entrance to the north end of Sierra Vista is an equally dangerous corridor, rude more dangerous by the down hill turn. People who live there` now are used to the turns and curves Planning Commission Minutes 18 July 08, 198 1 of Sierra Vista, to make ;it a through street would be upappropriate, Mr. Frank Luchinski , 8550 Red Hil Country Club Drive, objects to the project until the traffic problem can be solved on Red Hill . Three or four serious accidents happen per year,; with minor accidents happening once or twice a month. He also stated the water would go into the ground, now with the roofs and driveways, the water will 'drain down, turn to the east and go to the wash, but we will have four times as much water on a heavy rainstorm from the roof and the driveways. He suggested the area be considered for a park which was originally granted from Mexico, City. t is a shame to wipe out the history in the begi nni n f. Rancho Cucamonga there should be some mark of our history how Cucamonga was developed, Mr. Steve Cissenbach, 7928 Sierra Vista, stated he believes the applicant has the right to develop the property with restrictions. He agrees the street going through would create a traffic hazard in front of Dr. Powers' home. There is limited police protection. 'Where would the exact widening of Sierra Vista would start and how much of his property would he loose in front of his house'. There is no 'objection to the improvement of the land, but feels the Commission' should give some serious conition to a cul-de-sac or some other idea of 'preventing a flow of t )n Red Hill Country Club Drive. Mr. Floyd St ggs, 7862 Sierra Vista, has no objections to the development on the other end but would not like to see the street go through. The area, Camino Sur and Sierra Vista, is now posted for golf cart traffic. Thera is clot of animal wildlife and this would eliminate the animals. Sierra Vista is in deplorable condition now, full of potholes and is too narrow. It will cost al of of money to rebuild the street to, handle the extra traffic, widening it would ;cause his loss of part ' of his front ,yard, flown the line, assessments for sidewalks and traffic lights., He likes the hill and the street the way it is now. Mr. Ben Makel , 9596 Hemlock., representing the property owners of 797; Valley Vista, the former owners of this property as Kramer Brothers Nurseries clarified the reason why the property was strut off was to restrict ;people from coming' into the nursery and stealing nursery stock, Retired from Foothill Fire District, he understands what the builder is confronted with, it is true that the access problem would present him a problem by cdl-desacing it Red Hill Country Club rive. There are ways this could be mitigated,, create a cul-de-sac situation mitigated with the Fire district which would allow for the devel opment. There is access also the possibility of an access from Monte Vista side as not to al l ow a thoroughfare from Country Club all the way up to Camino Sur and this should be considered. Mr, Larry' Archi nage, resident of Red Hill Country Club (give, stated he does not have any reservations to the development of the property, but does not approve of the idea Sierra Vista being a through street. Ms. Laura J. Deeks, 7908 Sierra Vista, has no objections to the development of the property. She does object the thoroughfare does present a problem whereas small children like to play out in the yards. If there is increased traffic flow, this presents a potential Planning Commission Minutes 19 July 08, 1987 hazard. This is a party area now, so the development is good. The development is to be 12 custom lots which would be then turned over and sold to whoever wanted to buy the lots as they are. They have worked hard to develop the neighborhood to the value and the worth that it is. s. Ada Cooper, 8420 Country Club Drive, stated she has lived in Rancho Cucamonga since 1924 and owned the property since I940. She does not object the development, but requested the Commission to be sure the water drainage; problems are taken care of since there; are more houses, more cement, and more sidewalks there will ' be al of more water' coming down. Mr. Duncan dilton, 8537 Chula Vista Court, resident 21 years, agrees with r. Powers there is a definite dangerous situation if Red Hill Country Club Drive was opened up ;with a four-way stop. There are two blind curves coming into that point; there are clot of accidents occurring them already.`` Traffic backup due to the four-way stop will be an all-day, everyday occurrence. In reference to access to the alleyway, Monte Vista give, is there any driveways coming out backwards onto the alley? This is a very small alley and would be quite dangerous if it was an access from the new dwellings. Chairman `cNiel stated these all from on from the proposed street. r. Ji 1 son stated someone suggested changing it and using it as a full access road. If that occurred, the street is only 20 feet wide right now and this would mean cutting into property on both sides and cutting into property values of ;quite a few homes if this approach was accepted or used. r. Richard want, Vice President of Allark, Inc. , stated they appreciate the concerns brought forward but was somewhat taken back since they made a strong effort to those immediately concerned with the problem of the site. He is long mare of the beautiful area and understands the comments of the neighborhood yet feels this development is a decent, straightforward approach to this site. They have extended the alley to al l ow ter. Cissenbach without any fee or going through any legal hassles so he now can get into the back of his property rather than off Chula Vista to support his particular problem. In regards to the drainage, there is not much absorption in the soil and because of the dome-shape at the top, the water dispersed everywhere.. With their design the water is to be channeled toward the street with the exception of the rear lots, Lot 5, 6, and 7. In meeting with Ms. Cooper, she gave them some history about the wall put up there since it was put up was because of the water problem. Their proposal with her was to remove the wall , to construct° a six foot decorative type 'block wall which would enhance her ,yard and not detract from the view of the mountains, they are sensitive to that fact and wanted the Commission aware of that issue. In regards `to Dr. Powers, there are legal problems involved and a they are working towards a solution. In regards to the traffic problem, there is a traffic problem now and many cars are now existing in the proposed street onto Red Hill Country Club Drive. There is al of of traffic in and out of there with two residents. Regardless of i Planning Commission Minutes 20 duly 08 1987 i i whether the street goes through or not, it would behoove those residents of both those properties to lower the shrubbery, at least the radius, to pick up another 20 or 40 feet of visability around those curves. Regardless of 'what happens to the street, this is only a recommendation to perhaps offset any problems the residents have observed. A four-way stop is another way of mitigation. They have no objection to the cul-de-sac, as a company or as a designer, but they do understand the 'problems with putting a cul-de-sac, whether it be' at the north end or south end because of engineering and safety problems. Because of the narrowness of the street of .Sierra Vista, there would be problems to have fire equipment try to get in there because of the roofs being of shake and turning around. This is probably why the Fire District could not concur. As far as spud control;, the Commission could take the traffic out are alternate route or a lot by lot' basis. They ; are willing to cooperate in any way. If someone wants to pay $1,400,000 for the park, then they can. They are asking the guidance of { the residents and the Commission and would like reach an amicable solution. r. John Holt, resident of Carnelian Street, feels that the traffic problem will continue until it is properly addressed as well as Foothill and Baser ,: ere the traffic exists. He fel t Mr. Grant offered an approach to down the through traffic which is the real problem, not necessarily where the street comes out. if a street light, traffic bumps, guard gates, traffic sign is the answer to the problem instead of where the 'street comes in, this should be the major consideration. i Mr. Tony Mize stated they have worked very closely with the staff and have been through Design Review two times and now have a staff recommendation for approval with conditions beyond the standards conditions and they agree to meet all of those including offering, as the developer, to be amenable to a condition that would require the developer to create a four-way stop. Chairman McNiel stated he, too, was a resident of this area, and feels emotionally tied to the hill. He lives on Alta Cuesto between Camino Sur and Valley Vista where there are two stop signs. He fought for the stop sign at Valley Vista and Alta Cuesta which has slowed 'down traffic and even deterred some traffic through the neighborhood. However, there are some thins in the design of this street which, would deter traffic, the fact that there is a radical corner at Camino Sur and Sierra Vista on the north end. He understood the Fire Department's prospective. He (questioned the distance now in the street. arre Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that starting at Camino Sur where; it meets Valley Vista, it is 1230 feet to the beginning of this subdivision. Chairman McNiel stated that from the prospective of good planning, the street should go through; to Red Hill Country Club give and deal with the intersection. The developer has agreed to put stop signs in, if required, which will slow down the traffic. It would not become an Planning Commission Minutes 1 July Cd, 1987 access road because it runs into Camino Sur and then makes a left turn. This appears to be an opportunity and understands the feelings of the residents' feeling a sacrifice of privacy. He supports the continuation of the 'street. Commissioner Blakesley stated he is very sensitive to the issue and concurs with Mr. Hol is comments that the intersection isn't the problem, the traffic flow through Country Club Drive is the problem. Commission Tol toy stated he did not realize that Sierra Vista was 1230 foot long and before knowing that he was for a double cul-de-sac but sine the length of the street, because of safety precautions, the street should go through. He felt that a four-way stop would be quite appropriate, but questioned the City Engineer his comments on Red Hill Country Club Drive. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated there are two things to consider: the signal is being put in at Baseline and Alta Cuesta, they are under design for a number of other signals which include the dual signal of Red Hill/Carnelian and Vineyard/Carnelian to improve the access out. It would appear appropriate in its nature, but needs to carry through a review and approval process. We should route the through _ traffic throug h Baseline and Carnelian. g Commissioner Tolstoy felt the street should go all the way through and a study should be made concerning a four-way stop not only because of the traffic situation but because of the blind corner situation. In regards to the water runoff, he questioned the City Engineer. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, responded that it will be handled. There will be a full hydrology study, a 100 year storm protection will be required, and a trace out where they are dumping the water can reasonably handle it without endanger anyone down the street will be required before approval of the map. The hydrology study will have to address the runoffs and its increased incremental impacts. Commissioner Chi ti ea felt that using Lets 3, 4, and 5 to exit onto the alley is not a practical solution, therefore this should be eliminated. The idea of' a double cul-de-sac which might work in putting in some higher access gets a bit ' complicated. It might work but the fact that one part of the cul-de-sac would be over 1200 feet long would not seem to be a safe situation. A four-way stop would ' slow traffic down and might solve part of the problem. The idea of offsetting the street, putting an additional curve in i , perhaps would discourage people using it as a through street. The comments of Mr. 'Holt and Mr. Maguire regarding the access to and from Red hill both at Base Line and 1 at Foothill will help slow down the through traffic with the development of Foothill plan, realignment of the access point which allows residents to get in and out but do not encourage other people to use this as a thoroughfare may help to mitigate this particular intersection as well . She further recommended looking at the realignment of the strut, putting it through and putting a four-way stop sign there. Planning Commission' inutes 22 July C ,; 1987 Chairman McNiel stated the direction of the Commission is to continue the street through to Red Hill , to study the possiblities and probabilities of a four-way stop at the corner of Red Hill and Sierra Vista, to put a curvature through the new lots, change the street so there's_ a little bend in it He further explained that the appeal process exists for those dissatisfied with the issue. Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the developer is under the obligation to bear the expense of installation of any further traffic control devices. Commissioner Chi ti ea moved to adopt the resolution with the modifications regarding the curvature, intersection, the continuation of the street, and drainage. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TDLSTDY NOES COMMISSIONERS. NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * --carried P. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN o review an consi er recb en a on ors cer Ica ion o e Draft Environmental Impact Report for the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan project. The Specific Plan consists of detailed land use regulations and standards' for the development along Foothill Boulevard between Grove Avenue and Haven Avenue, between the 1-I5 Freeway and East Avenue. (Continued from dune 24, 1987). Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Lloyd Zola, 2940 East "C" Street, Ontario, consultant for the Foothill Boulevard, Specific Plan' EIR, clarified the revised student generation analysis. Under a new Mate laws commerical areas do generate new students because employees of the area have the choice of having their students educated at the school district where they work or where they live, establishing residency at the place of employment. When going through the analysis and eliminating double counting, the impact should be ZSOO students rather than the 12,00 being generated within the district by the commercial . This is an increase over existing planned generation by 1,000 students. Under state law, commercial uses are paying ZS cents per square foot as the mitigation, so the mitigation really is payment of legally established fees for all residential and commercial uses. The Fees are in a reasonable relationship impact per Chafiwey Union High School District finding and have recommended for their district they be certified and also the local elementary district certify that number as being a reasonable figure.' Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes 23 duly OB, 1987 . John Melcher, representativve of Lewis Homes, stated disagreement with staff's response to their concerns over land use. He would like the opportunity to submit additional data in support of their position and asked the_ Commission's action regarding the land use section remain open for further discussion until the July 22, 1987 meeting. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that for the City to evaluate the new 5 data, the information should be received as soon as possible. ,=v Mr. Paul Max, property owner on Foothill Boulevard, expressed his desire of requesting the staff to include the piece of property located between Michael J's restaurant and Kinder are, the next parcel east of Turner in commercial zoning. The present proposed land use zoning shows up to Turner as being CC/Commercial . From that point forward incorporating Michael J 's, the vacant piece of property of which he is an owner, and heading east as being Commercial office/Office Commercial . He requested to be included in the Commercial Zone which would encompass Michael J 's restaurant which is an existing use which fits into the Commercial Office. Most of the eases which would be requiring Conditional Use Permit under the Commercial zoning would also be requiring Conditional Use Permit under the Commercial office zoning. He asked what the process would be in order to request from Planning this particular change. He stated he was adding 1.6 acres into what has already been proposed. Commissioner Chhi ti ea questioned Mr. Max whether here was not already a proposal for an office on that particular site. r, Max clarified there was an office proposal for the property. They went through the entire planning process and have designed an office building and would 'like the opportunity to have the option. This does not Crean they won't build the office building but it may be better as a Commercial zone and not an office zone.` He requested time to meet with staff and make some movement in that direction. r. George Guidera, 7363 Garnett, Rancho Cucamonga, property owner on Foothill Boulevard stated his interest in the Foothill Corridor Study. The ADHOC Coninittee, was instructed not to look at the interim pant, from Haven Avenue, Terra 'Vista, Barton Development to the 1 15 because it has been master planned. In the areas that the Corridor Study consisted of, the majority of the land area has been built out as a buffer between residential and commercial , where` Sycamore Inn and Rear Gulch. The ADHOC Committee gave its recommendation. If there is Commercial to be removed it should be Commercial removed where there is still slot of vacant land where it is to be designed otherly, such as Terra `vista property. They have the impact of Milliken Avenue going through. Let economics 'dictate what goes in, Mr* John Holt,; 95 Carnelian, Alta Coma, stated he sat on the ADHOC Committe and wanted to update the Commission on what was being done regarding the land use and commercial designation. 1t was brought up at one of the first meeting, there was "too much" commercial allocation in Planning Commission Minutes 24 July o , 1987 land use zoning. After discussions and extended debate and input from residents, a conclusion was rude the City would be far better off and far ahead to have this land allocated as commercial and allow the growth to happen as Foothill Boulevard is controlled. If the City does not develop a base to support Commercial at that time consider changing the zoning. They tried to write a document to provide direction and al 1 ow for flexibility and the ability to be fluid in that area and save the land rather than have it build up under residential zoning without proper control . He asked the Commission to be aware of the amount o commercial Property being set aside, the dollar figures versus populatio=n ;i�rid business growth which was all considered in the ADHOC Committee's debate and discussion. Mr. Larry Arcinage resident of Rancho Cucamonga, concurred with the comments of Mr flax and Mr. Holt. As a developer, they look at property if it will crake economical sense. Developers will not develop and build out any Commercial if there aren't households to support it. It takes 2,000 residences to support a shopping center. He requested the Commission to carefully look over the information the ADHOC Committee provided and carefully weigh their decision and recommendations. Commissioner McNiel` closed the public hearing. Commissioner .i tiea complimented Mr. Max on the design of their project and felt it would be an asset to Foothill in their present design. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item P to the duly 2 , 1987 meeting. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. I AYES: Cp ISSIONERS BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY I NOES: COMMISSIONERS NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS.- NONE --carried Q. FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN (Continued from dune 24, 1987). Otto ' kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report. It was requested that an opportunity be provided to the Chamber of Commerce to I review the plan once more. This it scheduled July 15, 187 for submittal of additional comments they may have® Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Since there were no comments, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item Q to the July 22, I987 meeting. Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following` vote Planning Commission'Minute 25 July 08, 1987 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: LAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLST Y NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried R. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN ENDME T 87-03B -CITY OF recyues o amen an Map eneraPlan to reflect land use changes proposed by the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan. ENVIRONMENT ASSESSMENT AND ETIWAN'DA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 87-02 TTOF - n a'a men o remove rom a wa a R E an approxima ely 57 acres of land on the Broth side of Foothill Boulevard between the I-15 Freeway and East Avenue; approximately 5 acres of land on the southeast corner of Etiwanda Avenue and Foothill Boulevard; and approximately 14 ages ofl and on the southwest corner of East Avenue and Foothill Boulevard - APN 227-211-24, 25 & 27 APN 227-221-01-0 , 07-09, 14 & 22-27, APN 227- 231-19, 21, 28, 29, 33 & 34, APN 229-311-14 & 15, APN 229-041- 0, and portions of APN 227-2 1-16 & 23. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 87- n amen n d remove from the Tndu_strfal Area Specific--PI-an approximately 80 acres of land on the south side of Foothill Boulevard between the 1-15 Freeway and Et w nda Avenue - APN 229 1- 1, 16 & 20 and; portions of 2 9- 21-57 59. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Since there were comments, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Blakesley moved continuation of Item R to the duly 22, 1987 meeting. Commissioner Emeri 'k seconded the motion, Motion was carried by the following vote YES COMMISSIONERS-. BLAKESLE Y CHITIE xEMERIC K C IE_ L TOLS TOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE --carried Planning Commission Minutes 26 duly 08 1987 T. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-1.7 - UNOCAL -The eve n o square oo y service s a on on 0.69 acres of land within an approved shopping center in the Neighborhood Commercial District, located at the northeast corner of Haven and Highland Avenues - APN 01- 71-68. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Dennis Carlson, Unocal representative, 143 North Main Street, I Orange, concurred with the staff report. He questioned the multiplaning of the office windows on the front of the building representing the right side and the righthand side of the elevation. The only objection is nocal `s sales promotional signing, in most cases, window identification. The sign ordinance provides for some free-standing ground-mounted signs advertising placed on the site. This would impact upon their use of the area for advertising and requests relief from the Commission regardin,g this issue. He questioned the City Engineer regarding the undergrounding of utilities along Haven Avenue.; They bought a parcel in an existing shopping center that was allowed to develop and occupy without undergrounding and are now placed under the condition of undergrounding north and south of their property. Under what condit` . is that 'condition placed upon them where the shopping center ei .,,. -)i ed it or had relief on it. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Emerick questioned if any window treatment had been considered to break up the appearance in the rear elevation. Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Planner, responded to Mr. Carlson's question regarding undergrounding. The project was approved prior to the current policy, but the shopping center is currently undergrounding those limes and have undergrounded the electrical lines and haven't done the telephone lines yet. This is a fail-safe condition and suggested Mr. Carlson check with the shopping center people they are in the process of doing the undergrounding Commissioner Chitiea stated that originally to the street side of the project it was totally ';blank and was asked by Design Review to come back. They added the arbor on the end' and where the building came up higher to recreate the tower effect in the shopping center and believes this was their solution. Windows were discussed but specific placement had to be explored. The reason multipane windows were requested was to be consistent with the service bays on the reverse and other parts of the shopping center as a detail to enhance the building. The removal of rocks in the bay area was a minor aspect. They increased the size of the columns which they complied. Perhaps the addition of a false window would be helpful . She appreciate their cooperation in Design Review. Commissioner dlakesley questioned the addition of the window and suggested perhaps landscaping. Planning Commission Minutes 27 July 08, 1987 Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with Commissioner Blakesley about landscpaing and suggested the elimination of the addition of windows. Landscaping to soften the building along with the rock treatment would suffice. Regarding pane in the windows, Commissioner Lhtiea stated the City does try to discourage advertising in the windows.` Chairman McNiel; stated there is an ordinance limiting the percentage of feet in the window designated for advertising. In this case, the narrow pane break would not be acceptable, unless they are painting on the window themselves. He recommended staying with the multipane glass because of the consistency with the shopping center. The possibility of placing the shopping center logo on the high corner of the building f th e ace. . - balance o e � concealing the ala c h street with landscaping p facing the p g. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested they upgrade the landscaping. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner,: noted the parkway and certain part of the landscape setback area is already installed or planted d with trees or landscape with ;cover, so they would be doing additional landscaping next to the building. There is approximately 10 to 15 feet more to landscape., Brad Buller, City ; Planner, asked for general direction from the Commission as to break up the panels with some appropriate type of landscaping. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the size of the window panes. Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, responded that some of the panes are bigger than 12 x 12 and some are smaller. The major tenants do have the wider glass. Commissiover Tolstoy believed the panes would have to be in conjunction to much the glass in the doors. Commissioner McNiel `observed the panels as being 2 feet high. Commissioner Ehitiea moved to adopt the resolution with the landscaping modification. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried y the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: NLAKESLEY, OHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried Planning Commission Minutes 28 July 08, 1987 Commissioner Chiti a moved to continue the meeting ; past I1-00 p.m. Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE * * * *; ®-carried U. ENVIRONMENTAL SES ENT AND ; DEVELOPMENT REVIEW! 87-• 0 LENNON proposal o construct ree m - enan an3 ane ware use building totaling 6+6, 74 square feet in the General Industrial [district, Subarea 5, on 3,8 ages of land located at the northeast corner of Turner Avenue and 6th Street - APN Og- 51-18, 1 , 22. Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report, Chairman �ened the public hearing, Mr, Tom Lennon, applicant, 607 East Chapman, Fullerton, CA, stated they have responded to the technical review requirements as well as the comments in the Design Review Committee meeting. They are now in the process with working with the county flood control district on working for the easement on the east end of the property. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Chitiea indicated this was one of the easier projects and the applicant was quite responsive. Commissioner Tolstoy moved adoption of the resolution. Commissioner, 81aEsley seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTCY NOES. COMMISSIONERS: ONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried V. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT - 5 -CISNEROS - Appeal of sta f' s decision denying a ome ccupa on ermi a 6 Sundance Drive. Item V was continued to the August' 1 , 1987 meeting. Planning Commission Minutes 29 July 08, 1987 W. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -C _TOWER PARTNERS, DWARD CINEMA) - request o mo i y e approve elevations su u �n+J arbor along the -north and south elevations for a 3/4 inch reveal for a theatre located at the northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Haven Avenue - APN 1 77-1 1, . Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman McNiel opened the public gearing. i n'_ _h Virginia e V �a Ca Nlr} nave Michael , Tower Partners developer at t re _ project, took over the project in March 1987. The project is in their control at this time and have endeavored to "mend' fences" with the City and understands the problems of the previous developer. This' corner continues to gather more and more enthusiasm in the City. The major concern now is the huge vertical feel as you walk down between the two buildings which were addressed in design Review their solutions were not well accepted. This was their attempt to go an extra step. I f the Planning Commission would suggest a solution, they would be willing to work with the City. Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy asked for the comments of the Design` Review Committee. Chairman McNiel stated the trellis theme that runs throughout the entire complex was cement columns and the wood framework above and that this should be 'continued. However, it was recommended that this be continued with smaller cement columns. There is a narrowness between the two buildings on one side and a property line problem as well . Chairman cNiel asked if there was still a problem with the property line, Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, commented that he had talked with Mr. Jim Martin, Plan Check Coordinator for ,Building and Safety Division and created a property line which went . which there was a lot line adjustment p p y directly in between the Edwards Cinema and the proposed 'buildings on either side. Them would be 10 'feet to the property to the Edwards Cinema and there would be 10 feet ;again to the next building. There is a problem with having structures adjacent to the 'property line for fire reasons, however, Building and Safety were willing to provide some modification to the code if the materials used were noncombustible, namely, concrete and heavy timer as well as the metal being used for allowing an arbor to span the property line. ` Chairman McNiel questioned whether a lot line adjustment is needed. Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, stated that Building and Safety felt it could be done through modifications. Commissioner Chi tied asked if the type of arbors currently is use were acceptable. Planning Commission Minutes 30" July 08,' 1987 " ' r "" f:� r "�' a M !'.. ! * i",. M r,.E ,. n " n 9 # � E - � M i � � +� # e #' • M i 9 � # •', • * -. ,...N �' . !# ��: !�:' is i; s -,. . � n �� # � w !i ! w i' * «: s � # � �, r ��:; �� ...:.. Chairman McNiel stated if the designer designs a building that does not conform to trying to create some continuity with trellis, etc, then they will be battling over this again. ` ' r� Michael stated `they, wish, to widen the pedestrian walkway the south of the cinema. They would like to widen it, light: it up, an d perhaps add some landscaping there to help create a pedestrian walkway there; on an interim basis,. Chairman MNiel closed the public hearing. Comissioner Chitiea felt it was possible that something better could be built, however it may not be probable. She felt it should be put in now, take care of the situation now, encourage the pedestrian use on both sides, make it consistent; then the Commission doesn't have to deal with the issue of what wasn't complete again. The architect, knowing what the parameters are, could design ;a structure and courtyard that would enhance this particular area. The arbor becomes a certain pedestrian point-of-interest and flow in direction. The Planning Commission's direction is the recommendation for the` arbors on both the north and south sides as soon as possible as directed to be designed. DIRECTOR'S REPORTS X. MILLIKEN AVENUE GRADE SEPARATION AT A.T. & S.F. RAILROAD a Report on F.U.C. Hearings and ATtennate Deiij'675nsideratfons Mr.. lane Frandsen, Senior' "1 Engineer, resented the st aff report. " _ g � P r. Hobert Barton, representing DeLeuw Lather Engineers & Pla nners and King Engineers, resentsd.... a report explaining the capital expenditure grant application procedures. he explained the advantages es and disadvantages from an undercrossing to an overcrossing. He stated that within the next five years, the City of Rancho Cucamonga might have a 25 to 35 percent chance of receiving a grant. After considerable discussion, it was the consensus of the Planning Commission to have an undercrossing. Y. VICTORIA COMMUNITY TRAIL FENCING Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff" report. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. r. dim Bailey, representing William Lyon Company, expressed disappointment in the unfairness of how the Trails Committee went about wing its recommendation for the PVC fencing. Mr. Bailey expressed his Planning Commission Minutes 32 July CB, 1987` concern with the appearance of the PVC and the long-term maintenance an availability of the PVC fencing material . He does not want to see PVC used in Victoria since it is not up to their standards and is unacceptable. Discussion was heard regarding the advantages and disadvantages of PVC, three-rail and two-rail Mood fending. ; The Commission approved - , McNiel and Chi tiea disapproving, an exception to the city standard three-rail PVC fencing for equestrian trails within the Victoria Planned Community only. The new standard will be three-rail wood fencing. Z. VICTORIA OFF-SITE SUBDIVISION SIGN PROGRAM Can Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that a sign program which helps direct people in the subdivision would certainly be beneficial because_ of the uniqueness of the planned community. Mr. Jim Bailey, representing William Lyon Company, stated that the current sign ordinance does not work in Victoria since it< is a master Planned c o�nunity. He indicated he wants to develop a :sign program that works for their projects. Chairman McNi el stated he did not see a problem with keeping the signs now existing and let them phase out in seven to eight months;. Commissioner Chitiea agreed with Chairman ' cNiel regarding the existing signs and commented she did not mind seeing the flags at the models. The Planning Commission supports the concept to allow planned communities the ability to prepare sign programs subject to the Planning Commission approval . They further directed staff to prepare ;a code amendment to the sign ordinance. COW41SSION BUSINESS Chairman McNiel and Commissioner Chi ties would like to be on the i subcommittee for the Victoria takes. PUBLIC CONWNTS There' were' no public comments. Planning Commission Minutes 33 July C , 1987 ADJOURNWKT ti : Moved by Tolstu , seconded by B1akesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn. Planning Commission Adjourned 2:15 a.m. Respectfully submitted, e Bred Buller Deputy Secretary Planning Commission Minutes 34 duly 08, 1987