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COMMITTEE' AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10, 2010 @ 6:00 PM
RAINS ROOM
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
ACTION
I. ROLL CALL:
X Frances Howd shell X Janet Ryerson
X Lou Munoz Kelly Mathen Alternate
Francisco Oaxaca Alternate X Carol Douglass (Equestrian Member
X Larry Henderson A Don Yoder(Bicycle Member
Vacant X Tom Tisler(Bicycle Member Alternate
II. NEW BUSINESS
A. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925-MILLER DEVELOPMENT CO.—A review of
the trail plans for a section of the Almond Trail and the Regional Trail.for the
Carrari Ranch project (the proposed subdivision of approximately 74-acres for
110 single-family lots), generally located north of the City boundary, north of
Delphin Place and west of Archibald Avenue in the City's Sphere-of-Influence.
Staff Planner: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner; Betty Miller, Associate Engineer
Action: Continued to an unspecified future date to bring back additional information
concerning the following:
1. Provide a revised drawing of the Thorpe Canyon/Almond Avenue extension
culvert/bridge (now 44 feet wide by 12 feet tall) to identify the changes made to the
drawing presented at the November 17, 2009, TAC meeting.
2. Clarify the crossing at Almond Avenue and Gooseneck Road. This crossing should
be represented on the Trail Plans.
3. There is a concern about modifying City Trail Standards for the Regional Trail within
the project boundaries. The TAC discussed the proposed 12-foot width of the
Regional Trail and that it is less than the minimum required for Community Trails,
The TAC is recommending the trail meet the minimum City Standard for a Regional
Trail.
4. The proposed driveway crossings along the Regional Trail. The applicant indicated
that they were willing to reduce the driveway approach to the minimum 12 feet
permitted by the City Standard. Provide a revised detail of the driveway crossings
and pavement treatments or alternative material within these crossings.
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ACTION AGENDA
March 24, 2010
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5. Provide a detail of the proposed trail fencing along the Regional Trail. This detail will
need to be analyzed to determine appropriate set back for line of site conflict.
6. Provide a detail of the improvements from the tract boundary to the property line of
the current ownership area for the Regional Trail within the existing disturbed areas.
III. PUBLIC COMMUNICATION:
This is the time and place for the general public to address the Trails Advisory Committee.
Items to be discussed here are those which do not already appear on this agenda.
The following members of the public provided comments on the project(TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
SUBTT16925), concerning the issues on safety, and the importance of keeping to the City
Standards for trail improvements:
1. Sandra & Glen Garza, 9493 Valley View Street, Alta Loma, CA 91737
2. Kathy Cameron, 9212 Cottonwood Way, Alta Loma, CA 91737
3. Mary Bullock, 6087 Burgundy Avenue, Alta Loma, CA 91737
4. Carlene Ariza, 8435 Pumalo Street, Alta Loma, CA 91701
5. Ken Douglass, 6147 Indigo, Alta Loma, CA 91701
IV. OLD BUSINESS - None
V. ADJOURNMENT - 6:48 PM
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
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TRAILS ADVISORY ► a %
COMMITTEE AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10, 2010 @ 6:00 PM
RAINS ROOM
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
I. ROLL CALL:
Frances Howdyshell Janet Ryerson
Lou Munoz Kelly Matheny (Alternate)
Francisco Oaxaca (Alternate) Carol Douglass (Equestrian Member)
Larry Henderson Don Yoder(Bicycle Member)
Vacant Tom Tisler(Bicycle Member Alternate)
II. NEW BUSINESS
A. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925-MILLER DEVELOPMENT CO.—A review of
the trail plans for a section of the Almond Trail and the Regional Trail for the
Carrari Ranch project (the proposed subdivision of approximately 74-acres for
110 single-family lots), generally located north of the City boundary, north of
Delphin Place and west of Archibald Avenue in the City's Sphere-of-Influence.
Staff Planner: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner; Betty Miller, Associate Engineer
III. PUBLIC COMMUNICATION
This is the time and place for the general public to address the Trails Advisory Committee.
Items to be discussed here are those which do not already appear on this agenda.
I, Denise Sink, Office Specialist II for the City of Rancho Cucamonga, hereby certify that a
true, accurate copy of the foregoing agenda was posted on March 4, 2010, at least 72 hours
prior to the meeting per Government Code 54954.2 at 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga.
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
COMMENT SHEET
March 10, 2010
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925-MILLER DEVELOPMENT CO—A review of the trail plans
for a section of the Almond Trail and the Regional Trail for the Carrari Ranch project(the proposed
subdivision of approximately 74-acres for 110 single-family lots)generally located north of the City
boundary, north of Delphin Place and west of Archibald Avenue in the City's Sphere-of-Influence.
BACKGROUND: The Trail Advisory Committee (TAC) reviewed the trail plans for the proposed
Carrari Ranch Project,the proposed development of 110 single-family lots within the Carrari Ranch
Specific Plan area (342-acres), on August 12, 2009, and November 17, 2010, and provided
comments to the applicant. The applicant has revised/responded to some of those comments and
is requesting further feedback from the TAC on the project. The November 17, 2009, TAC Action
agenda is attached.
DESIGN PARAMETERS: The Carrari Ranch Specific Plan project area has a Regional Trail that
traverses the site generally running east-west and is proposing to share a section of the
Almond Community Trail to improve an 800-foot section for a secondary access road. After the
November 17, 2009, TAC meeting, the applicant amended the plans to address the following
concerns.
Regional Trail:
The applicant proposes to improve a 12-foot section of the Regional Trail from the westerly tract
boundary line to the easterly tract boundary line through the northerly end of the developed area
along the private road, Delphin Place. The TAC provided comments regarding the off-site
connections to the Regional Trail, driveway crossings, and the reduction of trail fencing.
Additionally, staff noted the substandard width of the trail (minimum 30 feet) and the need to
improve the Regional Trail to the property lines and not at the tract boundary. No changes have
been made to the proposed Region Trail as part of this re-submittal.
Community Trail:
The applicant has revised the plans for the proposed improvements to an 800-foot section of the
Almond Trail forthe proposed emergency secondary access road based on comments received at
the November 17, 2009,TAC meeting. The TAC provided comments to the applicant regarding the
visual impact to the Thorpe Canyon/Almond Avenue extension, modifying the City trail standards,
sharing the trail section for the secondary access,and equestrian safety with the proposed paving of
the trail. The applicant has revised the design to accommodate both the 26-foot emergency access
road and the 20-foot Community Trail.
STAFF COMMENTS: The following comments are intended to provide an outline for Committee
discussion.
Major Issues:
Community Trail
1. The adjacent road/trail section should be revised to indicate the location of all improvements
including the proposed trail fencing. The note on the plans state that trail fencing will be
installed along the curb edge of the trail as requested by the TAC. The new cross section is
shown on sheet 6 of 12 in the attached plans.
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AGENDA
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925 — MILLER DEVELOPMENT
March 10, 2010
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2. The applicant expressed at the November 17, 2009, TAC meeting that they would redesign
the culvert and plans accordingly for the Thorp Canyon Crossing. No new conceptual plans of
the Thorpe Canyon Crossing were submitted with this revised submittal.
3. The trail will be improved to meet the minimum City standard and will be separated by trail
fencing. The trail will be in the same location and is expected to be maintained by the City. A
concrete header between asphalt and decomposed granite may still be required by the
Engineering Department to address potential wash outs.
Regional Trail
1. Although staff is concerned with the location of driveways that cross the Regional Trail and
with the proposed materials within the driveway crossing,the applicant feels that their proposal
is appropriate.
2. The applicant has expressed the reduction in the trail fencing for the driveway crossings is not
unreasonable.
3. No additional TAC actions were addressed in this re-submittal.
Additional staff comments addressed in the November 17, 2009, TAC comments should still be
reviewed and addressed by the TAC if appropriate.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Staff recommends the Trails Advisory Committee review the
proposed trail layout and to provide input and direction on the plans.
Staff Planner: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner
Attachments: A—TAC Comments, dated November 17, 2009
B—TAC Action Agenda, dated November 17, 2009
C — Full Set of Plans
D — Memorandum from Betty Miller, Associate Engineer
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
COMMENT SHEET
November 17, 2009
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT (EIR) DRC2004-01048 FOR ANNEXATION
DRC2005-00602, DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT DRC2005-00477, DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT DRC2005-00629, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT DRC2006-00030,
SPECIFIC PLAN DRC2008-00940 AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925 - MILLER
DEVELOPMENT CO. — A review of the trail plans for a section of the Almond Trail and the
Regional Trail forthe Carrari Ranch project(the proposed subdivision of approximately 74 acres for
110 single-family lots generally located north of the City boundary, north of Delphin Place and west
of Archibald Avenue in the City's Sphere-of-Influence.
BACKGROUND
The Trail Advisory Committee(TAC)reviewed the trail plans for the proposed Carrari Ranch Project,
the proposed development of 110 single-family lots within the Carrari Ranch Specific Plan area
(342 acres), on August 12, 2009, and provided comments to the applicant. The applicant has
revised/responded to those comments and is requesting further feedback from the TAC on the
project. The TAC Action agenda is attached.
DESIGN PARAMETERS: The Carrari Ranch Specific Plan project area has a Regional Trail that
traverses the site generally running east west and is proposing to share a section of the
Almond Community Trail to improve an 800-foot section for a secondary access road. After the
August 12, 2009 TAC meeting the applicant amended the plans to address the following concerns.
Regional Trail:
The applicant proposes to improve a 12-foot wide section of the Regional Trail from the westerly
tract boundary line to the easterly tract boundary line through the northerly end of the developed
area along the private road, Delphin Place. The TAC provided comments regarding the off-site
connections to the Regional Trail, driveway crossings, and the reduction of trail fencing.
Additionally, staff noted the substandard width of the trail (minimum 30 feet wide)and the need to
improve the Regional Trail to the property lines and not at the tract boundary.
Community Trail:
The applicant proposes to improve an 800-foot section of the Almond Trail for the proposed
emergency secondary access road. The TAC provided comments regarding the visual impact to the
Thorpe Canyon/Almond Avenue extension, modifying the City trail standards, sharing the trail
section for the secondary access, and equestrian safety with the proposed paving of the trail.
Analysis: The applicant has responded to the comments that were identified (see attached letter
Attachment C).
STAFF COMMENTS: The following comments are intended to provide an outline for discussion
purposes.
Major Issues:
Community Trail
1. The applicant has revised the alignment of the secondary access road along an 800-foot
portion of the Almond Trail to provide a 12-foot wide minimum trail surface as requested by the
EXHIBIT - A
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AGENDA
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925 — MILLER DEVELOPMENT
November 17, 2009
Page 2
TAC. The trail will be separated from the access road by trail fencing per the City standard.
The cross section shown on Sheet 1 of the trail plans is incorrect and the new cross section is
shown on Sheet 6 of 12 in the attached plans.
2. The TAC requested that drawings be provided to address possible visual impacts to the
Thorpe Canyon/Almond Avenue extension. This information will be provided at the
Trail Advisory Committee meeting.
3. The trail will be improved to meet the minimum City standard and will be separated by trail
fencing. The trail will be in the same location and is expected to be maintained by the City. A
concrete header between asphalt and DG may still be required by the
Engineering Department to address potential wash outs.
Regional Trail
1. Although staff is concerned with the location of driveways that cross the regional trail and with
the proposed materials within the driveway crossing, the applicant feels that this condition is
appropriate.
2. The applicant has expressed that the reduction in trail fencing for the driveway crossings is not
unreasonable.
Additional staff comments addressed in the August 12, 2009 TAC Comments should still be
reviewed and addressed by the TAC if appropriate.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Staff recommends that the Trails Advisory Committee review the
proposed trail layout and provide input and direction on the plans.
Staff Planner: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner
Attachments: EXHIBIT A—TAC Comments from August 12, 2009
EXHIBIT B —TAC Action Agenda
EXHIBIT C — Response from Applicant
EXHIBIT D — Full set of plans
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
COMMENT SHEET
August 12, 2009
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT (EIR) DRC2004-01048 FOR ANNEXATION
DRC2005-00602, DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT DRC2005-00477,
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DRC2005-00629, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
DRC2006-00030,SPECIFIC PLAN DRC2008-00940 AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925
-MILLER DEVELOPMENT CO.—A review of the trail plans for a section of the Almond Trail and the
Regional Trail for the Carrari Ranch project(the proposed subdivision of approximately 74 acres for
110 single-family lots), generally located north of the City boundary, north of Delphin Place and west
of Archibald Avenue in the City's Sphere-of-Influence.
SITE CHARACTERISTICS: The project is generally located north of Reales Street and west of
Archibald Avenue within the City of Rancho Cucamonga's Sphere-of-Influence. The Carrad Ranch
project area is unimproved with dirt roads and easements that traverse the site. The site is
designated Open Space and Hillside Residential within the General Plan and will be pre-zoned as
part of the project, consistent with the General Plan designations. The properties to the west and
east are designated Open Space and Hillside Residential with minimal improvements and scattered
single-family dwelling units. The properly to the north is within the San Bernardino National Forest
boundary and the properties to the south are developed with single-family residential zoned
Very Low Residential (.1 to 2 dwelling units per acre). The subject property is within the
Hillside Overlay District and has slopes in excess of 30 percent.
The Almond Trail is located to the south of the project site and moves along through the Angalls
Canyon and the adjoining Thorpe Canyon. This trail is considered one of the most scenic trails in
the City and trail improvements were kept to a minimum to preserve the area. Additionally, a.
proposed Regional Trail is located within the project site as indicated in the General Plan and Trail
Improvement Plan.
DESIGN PARAMETERS: The project includes the proposed development of 110 single-family lots
within the Carrari Ranch Specific Plan area (342 acres) and the annexation of approximately
670 acres of land. This project proposes to construct the Regional Trail through the project site and
pave an approximately 800-foot section of the Almond Trail for a secondary access road.
Regional Trail:
The Hiking and Riding Trails Master Plan (General Plan Exhibit III-13) shows a Regional Trail that
traverses the site generally running east to west and then heads south along the westerly property
line to the existing City limits south of the stream crossing. The trail then heads west across the
Southern California Edison easement. The existing location of the Regional Trail follows service
roads for the most part. The fire road terminates west of the subject project site, and the trail is lost
at this point. Because of the possible constraints with topography, grade, and future extension of
the Regional Trail, it may be more appropriate to continue the Regional Trail along a U.S. Forest
Service Fire Control road generally west of the proposed tract boundary. Since the General Plan is
a policy document, the exact locations are typically determined as development occurs and ideal
trail locations are analyzed.
The applicant proposes to improve a 12-foot section of the Regional Trail from the westerly tract
boundary line to the easterly tract boundary line through the northerly end of the developed area
along the private road, Delphin Place. No improvements are proposed for the Regional Trail that
extends from the tract boundary to the east and west property line.
EXHIBIT - A -fp,C,
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AGENDA
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925 — MILLER DEVELOPMENT
August 12, 2009
Page 2
Community Trail:
The applicant also proposes to improve.an 800-foot section of the Almond Trail for the proposed
emergency secondary access road. The existing Almond Trail right-of-way is 20 feet,with a 10-foot
native trail surface. The applicant is proposing to provide a 20-foot wide all-weather surface and a
6-foot wide decomposed granite trail along this section of the trail.
Analysis: The Trail Implementation Plan standard for Regional Trails is 30 feet in width and may be
reduced by the Planning Commission upon recommendation of the Trail Advisory Committee
because of the topography constraints. The minimum trail width for Community Trails is 20 feet.
The Almond Trail improvements in this area are minimal because of the scenic nature of the area.
The developments of Equestrian lots are not required within the Hillside Residential land use
designation.
Regional Trail:
A 12-foot wide Regional Trail is proposed as part of the development of the project area along
Delphin Place. The trail is proposed to be improved only within the tract boundaries. Multiple drive
approaches will intersect the trail and the plan proposes to use a broom finish (Exhibit A), for the
drive approach crossing. These crossings can create a conflict between trail users and vehicles.
The applicant proposes that pedestrian, equestrian, and bicycle access to the gated communitywill
be unrestricted, providing "connectivity"between adjacent residential areas and the on-site Regional
Trail. To be truly unrestrictive to pedestrians, bicycles, and equestrians a "Step Through," per
Standard Drawing 1007,would be appropriate,at the Delphin Place gated community entry instead
of a man-gate. Additionally, pedestrians, equestrians, and bicycles will have to use the same 36-
foot wide asphalt roadway as vehicles for 1,800 feet along the steep winding road of Delphin Place.
Community Trail:
The applicant is proposing to pave an 800-foot section of the Almond Trail for the purpose of
providing the required secondary access road to the project site. The Rancho Cucamonga Fire
District requires that a secondary emergency access road be a 20-footwide all-weather surface for
the fire vehicles. The City Trail Implementation Plan refers to this section of the Almond Trail as the
most "scenic trail area in the City." A 6-foot wide decomposed granite trail/shoulder is proposed
along this section of the Almond Trail along the 20-foot wide paved surface. Trail fencing is
provided along the outside of the trail but no fencing is proposed between the two uses. Public
roads require a concrete header between the asphalt and the decomposed granite,and a minimum
width of 10 feet clear of any fencing.
Additionally, there is a section of the trail along Almond Street where both the trail and the street will
share the right-of-way. This section of the trail should be improved with the construction of the
culvert or bridge.
Both the Regional Trail and the Community Trail, as proposed, will not comply with the minimum
technical and construction standards.
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AGENDA
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925— MILLER DEVELOPMENT
August 12, 2009
Page 3
STAFF COMMENTS: The following comments are intended to provide an outline for Committee
discussion.
Maior Issues:
Community Trail:
1. The alignment of the secondary access road along an 800-foot portion of the Almond Trail.
The access road and trail will share the 26-foot wide right-of-way. The trail is proposed to be
paved with an all-weather material that will be approved by the Rancho Cucamonga Fire
District(RCFD). The trail is proposed as a 6-foot decomposed granite shoulder/trail. No trail
fencing is proposed between the paved access road and the trail within this section of the
Community Trail. Additional grade information will be provided at the Trail Advisory
Committee meeting.
2. The applicant proposes to install a bridge or culvert for a future Almond Street crossing of
Thorpe Canyon and grade the ultimate right-of-way for a residential collector street. Staff has
asked for a parkway community trail to be included on one side of Almond Street. The Trails
Advisory Committee (TAC) should consider whether a community trail along the street is
needed, in addition to an existing trail that crosses the bottom of this canyon, and if so,would
a 12-foot parkway trail without street trees suffice over the culvert or bridge. A vehicle gate
with side access, per Standard Drawing 1006, would be appropriate at the south end of the
emergency access road/private trail.
3. Consider requiring a concrete header between asphalt and decomposed granite and a
minimum width of 10 feet clear of any fencing.
Regional Trail:
1. The location of driveways that cross the regional trail and the proposed materials within the
driveway crossing. There is a potential to have of up to 11 driveways intersecting this section
of the trail. The Trails Advisory Committee should consider in its evaluation that
Tentative Tract Map SUBTT16925 has been designed with lots that front onto Delphin Place,
which can create opportunities for driveway conflicts between horse riders and vehicles.
2. The TAC should review the design of the Regional Trail as proposed. The proposed trail does
not meet the minimum 30 feet in width and may exceed the maximum grades permitted.
3. The TAC should consider whether the applicant should continue the trail improvements forthe
Regional Trail from the limits of the tract boundary extending both easterly and westerly to the
property line. The plans indicate that this is an existing section of the Regional Trail. There
are no improvements along this section of trail.
4. The TAC should consider realigning the location of the Regional Trail along the fire control
road. If the applicant is required to improve the trail in the location as indicated within the
Hiking and Riding Trails Master Plan (General Plan Exhibit III-13), then the TAC should
consider requiring a "Step Through,"per Standard Drawing 1007, at the Delphin Place gated
community entry instead of a man-gate.
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AGENDA
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16925 — MILLER DEVELOPMENT
August 12, 2009
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S. This Tentative Tract Map will require formal review by the TAC when the application is
deemed complete. The Committee should review the General Plan Exhibit III-13, the
proposed subdivision, the existing trail segments, and provide input and direction on the
proposed subdivision and trail improvements.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Staff recommends that the Trails Advisory Committee review the
proposed trail layout and provide input and direction on the plans.
Staff Planner: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner
Attachments: A— Example of Broom Finish
B— Full set of plans
C— General Plan Exhibit III-13
D —Sections of the Trail Implementation Plan
E — Map of existing and proposed Regional Trail location
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
TRAILS ADVISORY 1 �%
COMMITTEE AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 2009, @ 6:00 PM
RAINS ROOM
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
ACTION
1. ROLL CALL:
X Frances Howdyshell Pam Stewart (Alternate)
X Lou Munoz X Larry Henderson
Antonio Karraa Janet Ryerson (Alternate)
X Francisco Oaxaca X Carol Douglass (Equestrian Member)
II. NEW BUSINESS
A. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT (EIR) DRC2004-01048 FOR ANNEXATION
DRC2005-00602, DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT DRC2005-00477,
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DRC2005-00629, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
DRC2006-00030, SPECIFIC PLAN DRC2008-00940 AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
SUBTT16925-MILLER DEVELOPMENT CO.—A review of the trail plans for a section of the
Almond Trail and the Regional Trail for the Carrari Ranch project(the proposed subdivision of
approximately 74 acres for 110 single-family lots), generally located north of the City boundary,
north of Delphin Place and west of Archibald Avenue in the City's Sphere-of-Influence.
Staff Planner: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner
Action: Continued to the next TAC meeting September 9, 2009 to bring back additional
Information concerning the following:
1. Provide drawings on visual impact of the Thorpe Canyon/Almond Avenue extension
culvert/bridge.
2. Provide map information on the north/south connections off site to the Regional(Front Line
Fire Road) Trail.
3. Concern with modifying City Trail Standards for an entire Project including off site existing
trail improvements, versus limited areas as in previous TAC reviews:
4. Concern with the requested shared north/south Almond Trail section the reduction of the
existing 15 foot wide dirt trail to a 6 foot wide DG and the potential for wash outs making it
unusable.
5. Concern with the requested shared north/south Almond Trail section with paving safety for
equestrian safety given the existing steep grade and the future maintenance contingent on
an off site HOA.
6. The On-site Tract Regional Trail Driveway crossings, present a significant challenge and
should be eliminated or reduced to the extent possible.
7. The regional trail fencing will also be reduced where there are driveway conflicts to provide
line of site standards. Details concerning this reduction need to be analyzed.
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COMMITTEE AGENDA
August 12, 2009
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III. PUBLIC COMMUNICATION - None received.
This is the time and place for the general public to address the Trails Advisory Committee.
Items to be discussed here are those which do not already appear on this agenda.
IV. OLD BUSINESS - None
V. ADJOURNMENT 6:57 PM
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ktgv.com
October 28,2009
Ms. Candyce Burnett
Planning Division
City of Rancho Cucamonga
10500 Civic Center Dr.
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
RE: Carrari Ranch Trails
Dear Candyce:
This letter has been prepared in response to a request from the Trails Advisory
Committee for additional information on the following items:
1. Provide drawings on visual impact of the Thorpe Canyon/Almond
Avenue extension culvert/bridge.
Response No. 1: This information is being prepared by the consulting firm
PACE and will be provided to the City shortly under separate cover for
review by the Trails Advisory Committee (TAC)prior to the November
17 TAC meeting.
2. Provide map information on the north/south connections off-site to
the Regional (Front Line Fire Road) Trail.
Response No. 2: It is unclear which trail is being referenced. The City of
Rancho Cucamonga Hiking& Equestrian Riding Map does not identify a
north-south trail within the Carrari Ranch Specific Plan Area.
3. Concern with modifying City Trail Standards for an entire Project
including all of the existing trail improvements, versus limited areas
as in previous TAC reviews.
Response No. 3: The off-site Almond Trail will be 12 feet in width per the
TAC's request. The emergency access road shall be separated from the
trail by the standard City equestrian fencing.
EXHIBIT - C
Ms. Candyce Burnett
City of Rancho Cucamonga
October 28, 2009
Page 2 of 3
4. Concern with the requested shared north/south Almond Trail section
the reduction of the existing 15 foot wide dirt trail to a 6 foot wide DG
and the potential for wash outs making it unusable.
Response No. 4: See comment from Comment No. 3, above. The existing
trail has no drainage improvements except an earthen ditch that is
currently subject to washouts. This ditch cuts across the side hill collecting
the historic sheet flows and concentrating these flows to unmitigated
connections with the Waters of the United States. It is our intent to not
relocate any part of the Almond Trail other than at locations necessary to
make the emergency access road connections.
5. Concern with the requested shared north/south Almond Trail section
with paving safety for equestrian safety given the existing steep grade
and the future maintenance contingent on- and off-site HOA.
Response No. 5: If the Almond Trail is left in place and improved only to
the emergency access road, then the City should maintain its own
improvements and the Applicant will be responsible for maintaining the
access road.
6. The On-site Tract Regional Trail Driveway crossings, present a
significant challenge and should be eliminated or reduced to the
extent possible.
Response No. 6: The Applicant does not agree that the driveways present
a significant challenge for the Regional Trail. There are driveway
crossings and street crossings all over nor-them Rancho Cucamonga. Every
driveway that is eliminated results in a cost to the Applicant of between
$500,000 and $750,000. Carrari Ranch proposes 10 driveway crossings
now, and it is anticipated that one or two of these crossings will be
eliminated by the time that the water system is installed. The Applicant
believes that the driveway crossings are not unreasonable.
7. The regional trail fencing will also be reduced where there are
driveway conflicts to provide line of site standards. Details concerning
this reduction need to be analyzed.
Response No, 7: This very same fencing condition behind the curb is
currently being constructed along Lemon Avenue near Amethyst Street.
Ms. Candyce Burnett
City of Rancho Cucamonga
October 28, 2009
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If you have any questions or comments after reviewing this letter, please contact
me. Thank you.
Sincerely, /
/ A/—
Mark Hickner
Director of Planning and Entitlement
KTGY Group, Inc.
mhickner@ktgy.com
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TRAILS ADVISORY / o d
COMMITTEE AGENDA
SPECIAL MEETING
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 2009 @ 6:00 PM
RAINS ROOM
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
ACTION
I. ROLL CALL:
X Frances Howdyshell X Pam Stewart (Alternate)
X Lou Munoz X Larry Henderson
X Janet Ryerson _ Kelly Matheny (Alternate)
X Francisco Oaxaca X Carol Douglass (Equestrian Member)
Don Yoder(Bicycle Member) _ Tom Tisler(Bicycle Member Alternate)
II. NEW BUSINESS
A. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT (EIR) DRC2004-01048 FOR ANNEXATION
DRC2005-00602, DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT DRC2005-00477,
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DRC2005-00629, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
DRC2006-00030, SPECIFIC PLAN DRC2008-00940 AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
SUBTT16925 - MILLER DEVELOPMENT CO. —A review of the trail plans fora section of
the Almond Trail and the Regional Trail for the Carrari Ranch project (the proposed
subdivision of approximately 74 acres for 110 single-family lots), generally located north of
the City boundary, north of Delphin Place and west of Archibald Avenue in the City's
Sphere-of-Influence.
Staff Planner: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner
Committee Action: Continued to an unspecified future date(at Applicant's request)to revise plans
consistent with TAC Comments as expressed by the committee members regarding the following
concerns:
1. Applicant is reviewing the Culvert design and will revise the plans accordingly.
2. Clarify the crossing at Almond Avenue and Gooseneck Road. This crossing is
addressed in the Specific Plan but should be represented on the Trail plans.
3. Expand the trail easement to the full 20 feet on the north/south Almond Trail section
and provide a separate (no overlay)26-foot easement for the secondary access road
and amend plans to reflect the full width.
4. Concern with the substandard width of the on-site Regional Trail and the potential to
have up to 11 driveway crossings. Consider narrowing driveway approaches, creating
a signage program, other amenities including tie up area/rest areas, and utilizing a
different pavement treatment within these driveway crossings.
EXHIBIT - B
TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ACTION AGENDA
SPECIAL MEETING NOVEMBER 17, 2009
Page 2 of 2
5. Show dedication but improvements only within the existing disturbed areas for the
Regional Trail from the proposed tract boundary to the property line of the current
ownership area.
B. DRC2009-00839 ANNUAL TRAIL PRIORITIES REVIEW FOR 2010-CITYWIDE
Staff Planner: Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Jerry Dyer, Sr. Civil Engineer
Committee Action: Recommended Approved as presented to forward to the Planning Commission
and Parks and Recreation.
III, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: None
This is the time and place for the general public to address the Trails Advisory Committee.
Items to be discussed here are those which do not already appear on this agenda.
IV. OLD BUSINESS: None
V. ADJOURNMENT: 6:58 PM
MEMORANDUM
ENGINEERING SERVICES DEPARTMENT
RANCHO
Date: February 22, 2010 CUCAMONGA
To: Candyce Burnett, Senior Planner
From: Betty Miller, Associate Engineert`?�'v
Subject: Carrari Ranch Trail Issues, SUBTT16925 and DRC2008-00940
When the Trails Advisory Committee (TAC) reviews the exhibits provided for their meeting on
March 10, please alert them the only thing that has changed since November is the off site
easement configuration on sheet 6. 1 am repeating most of the topics in my November 16, 2009,
memo that I think they should discuss:
1. Proposed 12-foot regional trail section continues to follow Standard Drawing 1002-B, which is
the bare minimum for a Community Trail. Most community trails are 20 feet wide, conforming to
Standard Drawing 1002-A along street frontages or Standard Drawing 1004 between lots. The
General Plan states (page III-159) regional multipurpose trails should be a minimum of 30 feet
wide and only offers credit toward park dedication requirements if they have an additional 15
feet of landscaping (page III-160).
2. The Traffic Section has asked that driveway and intersection Lines of Sight be plotted along the
proposed regional trail. At a minimum, when driveways cross trails the trail PVC fencing should
be held back 50 feet on both sides of drive approaches. This could mean no fencing at all on
ten lots (91, 94, 95, 97-100,105, 70 & 71) making a landscape buffer between the back of curb
and the 12-foot trail and even more desirable.
3. The 46-foot "Adjacent Road/Trail Section" on sheet 6 has been revised. Now the proposal is
to parallel the Community Trail, on the upstream side, with 2:1 slopes to daylight in an additional
slope easement, shown draining across the graded shoulder.
a. Developer shall obtain and record all necessary off site easements before the tentative
tract map is scheduled for Planning Commission review. This will include street rights-of-
way and the grading easement to install Almond Street across Thorpe Canyon from the San
Bernardino County Flood Control District and grading easements from properties on both
sides of Almond east of the canyon.
b. They propose to cross the existing Community Trail with asphalt at a 9.4% grade.
c. Does the TAC want PVC fencing between the trail and emergency access roadway?
d. It would have been nice if they had provided sheet 12 from the tentative tract plans, since it
is referenced on the two detail sheets. TAC may want to see Sections C/12, D/12 and J/12.
e. It would also be nice to see a section east of Thorpe Canyon.
4. The Specific Plan provides 5-foot level parkways on both sides of Delphin Place south of"A"
Street. TAC should decide if this is sufficient for pedestrians for the 1800 feet between the gated
entry and the regional trail.
EXHIBIT - D
CARRARI RANCH TRAIL ISSUES,SUBTT16925 AND DRC2008-00940 PAGE 2
FEBRUARY 22,2010
5. The Specific Plan states that pedestrian, equestrian and bicycle access to the gated community
will be unrestricted. To that end we would suggest a "Step Through" per Standard Drawing
1007, at the Delphin Place gated entry, rather than a pedestrian gate that could be interpreted
as being for residents only.
a. TAC may want to consider if signage is appropriate.
b. A vehicle gate with side access, per Standard Drawing 1006, would be appropriate at the
south end of the emergency access road/private trail.
6. Shouldn't the Homeowners Association (HOA) also maintain portions of the regional trail
through the Open Space lot, outside the limits of the numbered lots? Where is the section for
that trail design?
7. The proposed 6-foot private equestrian trail along the emergency access road appears to end at
"C" Street. Should the there be a private trail link to the regional trail on site?
8. Exhibit III-13 of the City's General Plan appears to show the regional trail following Delphin
Place all the way to the existing city limits south of the stream crossing, not just along the
interior east-west segment the developer is proposing to improve.
a. Figure 2 of the City's Trail Implementation Plan shows a direct connection between the
Regional and Community trail near the north end of Beryl Street. This further supports the
argument for accessing the regional trail off Delphin, near the project entry. However, there
is no direct trail link within Tract 11626; just streets and perimeter local trails.
b. Do we need to consider where regional trail users will park?