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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983/05/17 - Minutes - Adjourned May 17, 1983 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Adjourned Meeting 1. CaLL TO ORDER An adjourned meeting of the City Council of the City of Rancho Cucamonga met on Tuesday, May 17, 1983 in the Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road. The meeting was called to order at 7:13 p.m. by Mayor Jon D. Mikeis. Present: Councilmembers Richard M. Dahl, Charles J. Buquet II, Phillip D. Schlosser, James C. Frost, and Mayor Jon D. MikeIs. Also present were: City Manager, Lauren M. Wasserman; City Attorney, Robert Dougherty; Community Development Director, Jack Lam; City Planner, Rick Gomez; Senior Planner, Tim Beedle; Associate Planner, Otto Kroutil; and City Engineer, Lloyd Hubbs. 2. AMNOUNCEMEMTS Staff presented a review of the actions taken at the previous meeting. 3. APPROVAL OF MI~ Minutes of April 21, 1983: Mr. Frost made the following corrections to the minutes of April 21, 1983. Page 12 - the motion should be: "Moved by Dahl, seconded by Schlosser, to change (instead of reduce) the commercial designation at 24th Street to a 5 acre site ...... " Page 3, last paragraph should read: "Councilman Frost stated that one of the problems with the bypass that far to the east would be the "S" curves required south of Victoria, north of the railroad tracks and suggested that it might be unlikely that the railroad crossing could be located that close to 1-15 without a grade separation." Motion: Moved by Schlosser, seconded by Dahl to approve the amended minutes of April 21, 1983. Motion carried unanimously 5-0. 4. ITEMS FOR DI~CUF~ION A. CIRCULATION. a. Bypass Road: Mr. Frost stated that under section -900 it should read, "to assist in achieving policies .700 and .800 above .... " Mr. Dahl asked are we showing this as a specific route on the map? Mr. Kroutil answered that we can do that if Council wishes. It was this understanding that Council did not want a special alignment at this time. Mr. Dahl wanted to show the concept on the map, but not in an exact location. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page ? Mayor Mikels stated the greatest portion of that proposed facility will be on public land. The problem will be where it extends south of the high school as to how it will go through private property. Mr. Dahl stated that when that area determines the building demand, then staff can proceed to get the necessary dedications. b. Freeway Study Zone: Commercial development adjacent next to the existing freeway and the proposed Route 30 freeway. Mr. Kroutil stated that Council wanted some mechanism so that the City would have options for land uses to meet certain goals to protect Route 30 and to allow the kind of development adjacent to freeways that works with the noise and visual impacts of freeways, but not to increase basic densities. The text under .400 reflects this policy: "Land within 660' of proposed or existing freeways." Mr. Frost stated that the basic question is whether the freeway is depressed or elevated. Mayor Mikels felt that we have left the option open by creating Special Freeway Study Zones. Mr. Buquet felt it would have an impact because if it were below grade then it would not affect the housing. Right now, we don't know what is going to be there. Mr. Frost stated the point is there was a change made by the Planning Commission, and it doesn't reflect what the Committee recommendation was. Mr. Buquet felt this was well covered. If the freeway is below grade, then we do not have a real reason for increasing the density. Mayor Mikels asked if Council wanted to designate Route 30 separate from the other freeway. Council stated "no". B. CCI~MERCIAL LAND USES a. Timing of Comercial Development: Mayor Mikels asked if Council had any concern with the language on Section 401. Action: Council concurred with the language in Section 401. b. Commerelal Land Uses - noFch~est corner of Etl~anda and Baseline. Mr. Frost stated that under Section .501(c) it lists a Farmers Market. He asked what was a Farmers Market? Mr. Kroutil responded that a Farmers Market suggested a special type market. Perhaps the term, "special market" might be a bette~ term to use. Mr. Buquet felt uncomfortable with the term, "special market," since he did not want this confused with an AM/PM type market. Andy Barmakian stated they envisioned this as a type of market that would be more fitting in a rural setting. It would be a small type market of approximately 15,000 square feet which would get you out of the Stop and Go- type market and out of the category of the large Vons type market. It would be an inbetween type market. City Council Minutes May 17, t983 Page 3 Mr. Dahl suggested that the text be changed to reflect a market between 12,000-18,000 square feet. Cecil Johnson stated that it would be a market of rustic architecture and restrictive in size. Mr. Frost stated as far as the location goes, he felt we should throw an asterisk in the middle and let free enterprise compete for it. Mr. Frost further stated that he would like to leave this item open until we talk about Etiwanda Avenue. C. RFalD~FTIAL LAND USES a. Other Land Use Modifications - Two acres (i) of Office Professional added at northwest corner of Base Line and 1-15. Mr. Frost stated the Office Professional on Base Line and East Avenue was basically landlocked. He was not in favor of deleting this, but perhaps it should be extended further north or west. He felt this should be tabled until Council could concur on this. He felt changes could give us access from East Avenue without having to drive through residential areas. Mr. Buquet expressed that we should not be looking at changing another piece of property just to make it fit. Mr. Hubbs concurred that this was an awkard piece of property. He felt the OP designation would create less traffic problems than a residential design. Mr. Buquet felt the OP designation was really conducive to good planning since it would be kind of noisy. The OP designation was considered as a buffer for the residential area. It would not solve anything to return this to an "M" designation. Action: Council took no action. b. Densities Alon~ Route 30 Freeway Mr. Dahl agreed with the statement of design under Section .900 in the new text. He felt this design should be referred back to the original designation of low. Mr. Frost stated that the incentives on Route 30 were not in the text yet. Mr. Dahl stated that Section .400 provides the incentives and was in favor of changing this to a low designation. Mr. Buquet stated that they spent an hour discussing this item before, and it should not be changed again. Mr. Dahl asked if we should not make this a freeway study zone. Mr. Kroutil stated this would be difficult unless we get more specific direction as to the intent and purpose for incentives along 1-15. Mr. Dahl stated if it were the concensus of Council, then it would best if we remove the words, "or the existing 1-15 freeway," from Section .400. Conclusion is that you already have a "LM" designation, and a freeway study zone is not needed to increase the buffer. Mr. Buquet felt we should change all to low density or dealwith this within a special study area. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page 4 Mayor Mikels stated that if we are going to leave this as low medium, then we need to take 1-15 out of Section .400 or put in a Section (c) showing low as a part of the freeway study zone with a list of goals. We can eliminate 1-15 and establish all densities the same, or study for a way to obtain the higher density. Do we leave this in or develop specific criteria. Mr. Buquet did not feel we should throw in all kinds of contingencies. Mayor Mikels asked if they wanted to take 1-15 out of the study zone or establish a special zone along 1-157 Action: Concensus of Council was to remove the words, "and the existing 1-15 freeway" from the Study Zone. e. Council consideration of density alon~ 1-15 Mr. Frost stated the range within that density should be moved closer to the freeway. What we are looking for is what Council did in the Marlborough development on the Ramona Avenue site, and keep it away from single family homes and East Avenue. Mr. Dahl was in favor of requiring a master plan for that area to assure that would happen and to work out circulation. Mr. Buquet stated that if you are going to ask for master planning in one place, then it should be done all-along. Mayor Mikels stated that this property is different because it is adjacent to a low density designation and next to the high school. He stated he was in favor of giving this a M~aster Plan Required designation." Motion: Moved by Dahl, seconded by Schlosser to designate the area as shown below Victoria along 1-15 as Low-Medium and to put an asterisk indicating a Master Plan is required. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Dahl, Schlosser, Frost, Mikels NOES: Buquet ABSENT: None d. Land Use on West Side of Etiwanda, North of Railroad Mr. Buquet stated he had concerns since the junior high school was adjacent to the area. He was trying to find a way to get the traffic around so it would not have to go up and down Etiwanda Avenue and to eliminate the Victoria intersection in order to get the people out the other way. Mr. Dahl stated we could designate this Very Low in order to keep the traffic down. Mr. Frost stated that the EIR shows that Etiwanda Avenue will be impacted. Action: Council concurred to leave the land use designation as Very Low. Mayor MikeIs called a recess at 8:40 p.m. with all members of the Council present. The meeting reconvened at 9:05 p.m. D. ~!FII~I311ED TOPICS. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page 5 a. Land Use Adjacent to Freeways. Mr. Kroutil asked if we should go into this item again since they have been directed to cover these areas in the Freeway Study Zone. Council concurred it was not necessary. E. SPECIFIC LAND ~3E REQUFaTS a. North side of Route 30 - requested by Zenz, Blanton, Vanderhoof. Mayor Mikels asked the requestors if they would like to make a statement on this item. Tony Zenz requested a review of this block. He felt the Low should be increased north to protect the 1/2 acre lots. Mr. Blanton concurred with Mr. Zenz and felt he expressed it very well. Mr. Vanderhoof also concurred. Mr. Blanton stated that if there was going to be another study area created, then he felt a time limit should be put on it so it won't go on and on. The people are getting tired of studies. Mayor Mikels asked if Council be~ieved that the Freeway Study Zone which has been approved along the freeway was sufficient to address these special requests or did Council want to consider moving the boundaries further north? Action: Concensus of Council was that the Freeway Study Zone was adequate as approved. b. Estate Residential Desi~nation. Requested by Mr. & Mrs. Catania. Mr. Kroutil stated the request by the Catania's was: (1) to consider the validity of the ER designation which is a land use designation calling for one acre lots and larger, and (2} to consider their property which is presently split into two land use designations: an ER designation on the easterly half and a VL designation on the westerly half. Mr. Kroutil further stated it was the feeling of the Advisory Committee that the ER designation was needed in Etlwanda in order to preserve something unique which the community has, and the area north of Summit was felt to be the most appropriate area for that type of rural land use Mr. Buquet suggested eliminating the quadrant on the west of Etiwanda Avenue, north of Summit, or extending it all the way across. Mr. Dahl suggested removing the ER designation all to the west side of Etiwanda Avenue and extend it on the east side from Etiwanda Avenue and East Avenue all the way to 24th Street. Mayor MikeIs asked for public comments on the ER Zone. Mr. Catania said this is not a hilly area, it is ~lat land. He was not sure this type of designation would work in that area. He felt the split zone would be very difficult to develop. He stated that he would appreciate the elimination of the ER designation. Mrs. Catania stated it is difficult for them to develop land that is split in zoning. The area has a lot of very small houses. She could not imagine anyone wanting to build a large home across the street from an elementary school and park. She didn't believe large size lots would be marketable. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page 6 Ralph Lewis did not have any land in the ER section, but they do have some in Claremont in a similar situation. They have run an ad in the paper for property and have not had any response. Mr. Blanton stated that all the activity from the County up to 27th Street would be 1/2 acre lots. There being no further comments, Mayor Mikels closed the public portion of the meeting. Mr. Dahl felt the ER designation should go all the way to 24th Street as shown on the map to make the area compatible. Mr. Dahl stated he had concerns in revamping over l-l/2 years of work. Motion: Moved by Schlosser, seconded by Frost to leave this alone. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Dahl, Schloser, Frost, Mikels NOES: Buquet ABSENT: None e. Core Area - Requested by David Flocker. David Flocker felt one major problem area which remains is the Very Low designation south of Highland is an impractical and inappropriate designation since it doesn't conform to the development occurring in the area. There are considerable small lots there, and Council would be making a mistake since this would become an undeveloped area in the "core" of the specific plan. He didn't feel the developers would choose to develop 1/2 acre lots. Mr. Banks expressed he had three parcels of property in the area, each with a different zone designation. He did not feel it was accurate to say it was not practical to have VL. The question was at what price was it impractical. It depends on the price you expect to receive for the land. Bill Steel stated the problem is the access through the Very Low area to keep the traffic off Etiwanda Avenue. It is almost impossible to enter off Route 30 right now. Its impractical to build 1/2 acre parcels with that access. There being no further comments from the public, the public portion of the meeting was closed. Mr. Schlosser felt we should change the designation since we do have the impact of Route 30. The Low designation would be more appropriate in the core area. Mr. Dahl stated he has heard the statement, "Preservation of the Core." He would not want to change the core area designation. Action: Council left the item unchanged. d. Southside of Route 30, ~eet of East Etl~randa Creek - Requested by Thompson. Mr. Thompson requested the area be changed to Low-Medium since there is a freeway to the north, a flood channel to the east, a flood channel and open space to the south. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page 7 Mr. Frost felt this would be best since the property was landlocked with freeway off ramps. Mr. Buquet stated he was not comfortable with the property to the east. Action: Council left the item unchanged. e. North~lde of Railroad, west of East Avenue. - Requested by Lawrence. Mr. Lawrence requested the designation be changed to medium since he felt a railroad needed more buffering than a freeway. Action: Council left the item unchanged. f. Vicinity of East and Miller - Requested by Schacklett g. Vicinity of Miller and Etiwanda - Requested by Pignotti Council handled items f and g at the same time. Neither Mr. Schacklett nor Mr. Pignotti were present. Mr. Ferguson, representing LANDCO, stated he had made a request several weeks ago. They felt the entire area would be more in line with the industrial area to the south if it were zoned Medium. They would prefer it all be zoned Medium, but if that could not be done, then they would like at least the back portion be expanded into the Medium zone. Motion: Moved by Schlosser, seconded by Frost to increase the density from medium and to widen Miller Street to accommodate the traffic. Motion failed by the following vote: AYES: Frost, Sehlosser NOES: Dahl, Buquet, Mikels ABSENT: None Mr. Dahl expressed concern for the homes aiready there. Mr. Mikels felt we were adding to the problem. Motion: Moved by Buquet to increase the medium designation on the southside of Miller and east of Etiwanda. Motion failed for lack of a second. Motion: Moved by Dahl, seconded by Schlosser to retain the Low-Medium designation on the north side of Miller and on 20 acres on the south side including and surrounding existing houses, and to redesignate remainder to Medium density. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Dahl, Buquet, Sehlosser NOES: Frost, Mikels ABSENT: None F. DISClk~SlON OF OT~ER LAM~ USE ITM~B B~ THE CO~CIL. Mr. Buquet wanted clarification for the Master Plan'requirement in the portion in the upper right hand quadrant of the Specific Plan. Mr. Kroutil stated the Planning Commission requested the Master Plan designation as a condition of increasing the density from 2 du/ac to 4du/ae. It was felt that with 4du/ac the two property owners would be encouraged to work together for a master planned project, to resolve the circulation because its part of the "umbrella loop," to work with some of the existing floodways that cut the site into three sections. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page 8 Cecil Johnson requested the following considerations: (1) the loop road that comes off Cherry Avenue is going to take some considerable amount of property and will involve a great deal of expense. A higher designation was originally considered there. (2) In regard to the access to Cherry Avenue off ramp, it would not cause any traffic flow problems, therefore any additional density would not impact the area at all. (3) There were some flood control easements in this property which would provide the open space development and the cluster arrangement is the only practical approach in developing this property. Larry Arsinage concurred with Mr. Johnson for higher density on this property. Action: Council left the item unchanged. Mayor Mikeis called a recess at 11:07 p.m. p.m. with all members of Council present. The meeting reconvened at 11:28 G. E0~RIAN I{REAS ~ Mayor opened the meeting for those desiring to address this issue. a. Objections to placement of equestrian trails alon~ a road with existin~ hoses which are not horse properties. Requested by Silva Marge Silva stated she got signatures from those on east side of Etiwanda Avenue all have property on south side of Summit. Their objections were that on these two areas the horse trails would be in the property fronting along Etiwanda Avenue. Mr. Kroutil clarified the intent of the Advisory Committee policy statement that the equestrian areas be served by trails. In addition to those that there be adequate connections between the equestrian trails in the equestrian areas and other locations in the City such as the regional trails and activity centers. Therefore, the result was a map which served the equestrian area north of Highland. Provision was also made for a connection to the east at Etiwanda Creek, down to the railroad, connection with the Victoria Plan, and to allow for the Fontana system to connect the system. Mr. Buquet felt we should look at alternative ways and that Summit Avenue along the north side would be more appropriate for the trail than Etiwanda Avenue. Motion: Moved by Dahl to move the trails to the west side of Etiwanda Avenue above Route 30, thus eliminating the east side of Etiwanda Avenue above Victoria. For lack of a second, the motion failed. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page 9 Mr. Buquet questioned how we could take property already developed for right- of-ways. Perhaps it would be better to eliminate that section now. He felt it would be better to go to an area that does not have development now rather than to retrofit an area. Mayor Mikels stated that Etiwanda Avenue on both sides is going to have a trail. Mr. Buquet asked why we needed to provide a trail down Etiwanda Avenue. Motion: Moved by Buquet, seconded by Sehlosser to revert to the Etiwanda Advisory Committee's trails plan on the equestrian designations on Etiwanda Avenue from Victoria to just north of Route 30 and along the east-west alignment connecting Victoria Planned Community with East Etiwanda Creek. Motion passed by the following vote: AYES: Buquet, Schlosser, Frost, Mikels NOES: Dahl ABSENT: None Mr. Frost pointed out a way to provide access to the Victoria Trail by going through the Victoria Planned Community. Another option would be to come up from the railroad tracks. He requested this be referred back to the Equestrian Committee for consideration. Council concurred. H. D]iTINISHED BUSINESS FRC[4LAST AGKNDA. a. Concern by the Temple Nyohoji and the OP desiEnation south of them. Motion: Moved by Buquet, seconded by Frost to provide the Temple a 39 foot side yard set back on the north and south (a variance for the Myohoji Temple only, not a policy for all churches). Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Buquet, Frost, Mikels NOES: Dahl, Schlosser ABSENT: None Mr. Schlosser expressed that someone else should not have to pay for another person's buffer. Councilman Frost expressed concerns with some issues relating to design and wished to address the items. Mayor Mikels stated there are many more items in both the Plan and the EIR which have not been dealt with, and Council could give equally lengthy consideration to each one. However, Council was not in a position to consider new input this evening because of the lateness of the hour. If Mr. Frost had questions with the EIR, those could be handled with the Resolution. If it were with the Plan itself, then Council could come back. City Council Minutes May 17, 1983 Page Mr. Frost stated that he felt the things he wished to discuss were important and was concerned because one of the major mistakes the City made in the General Plan process and with the Planned Communites, was not looking at the Urban Design aspect of them and some of those items will have a more lasting significance than some of the land use decisions. We are talking about visual impact of the community, and it is important enough to spend some time discussing it. Mayor Mikeis stated he would appreciate it if Mr. Frost would come back to Council with a proposal and some recommendations for discussion. Mr. Frost stated it would be a waste of time unless Council concurred that issues of design and community character were important enough to consider. Council concurred these issues were important enough to discuss at a later time. (1) Mr. Wasserman read the title of Ordinance No. 203. ORDINANCE NO. 203 (first reading) AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE REGULATORY PROVISION SECTION OF THE ETIWANDA SPECIFIC PLAN AND AMENDING THE CITY'S ZONING MAP FOR THE ETIWANDA AREA ACCORDING TO THESE PROVISIONS. Motion: Moved by Dahl, seconded by Buquet to waive full reading of Ordinance No. 203. Motion carried unanimously 5-0- Mayor Mikels set June 1, 1983 for second reading. 5- ADJO~. Motion: Moved by Schlosser, seconded by Dahl to adjourn. Motion carried unanimoulsy 5-0. Meeting adjourned at 12:50 a.m. Respectfully submitted, Beverly Authelet Deputy City Clerk