HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981/03/30 - Minutes - Special Adjourned MARCH 30, 1981
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
CITY COUNCIL MI~UTES
Special Adjourned Meeting
1. CALL TO ORDER (1)
A special public hearing on the General Plan by the City Council was held in
the Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, on March 30, 1981. The
meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Mayor Phillip D. Schlosser who led
in the flag salute. A ~oment of prayer followed for the recovery of President
Ronald Reagan.
Present: Councilmen James C. Frost, Jon D. Mikels, Michael A. Palombo and
Mayor Phillip D. Schlosser
Absent: 'Arthur H. Bridge (arrived at 8:30 p.m.)
Also Present: City Manager Lauren M. Wasserman; City Attorney Sam Crowe:
Community Development director Jack Lam; City Planner Barry Hogan; Senior
Planner Tim Beedle; City Engineer Lloyd Hubbs; Director of Community Services
Bill Holley.
2. CONTINUATION OF REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT
SUPER ELEMENT TEXT
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development, stated that the format of the
Agenda had been changed at the request and recommendation of the Citizen's
Advisory Commission, with the items of specific interest being placed at the
beginning of the meeting.
Barry Hogan, City Planner, gave a brief overview of what the Land Use and
Development Super Element encompassed. He noted that the Council had been
presented with the changes requested at the March 16th meeting, as well as
additional information for clarification. He referred to a memo addressed
to Council dated March 26 regarding revisions to the equestrian trail element
of the General Plan. 'Mayor Schlosser stated the group presenting the revisions
to the Equestrian trails requested that this item be postponed until 8:00 p.m.
Mr. Hogan referred to a letter directed to Council dated March 30, 1981 from
Sharon Romero of the Citizen's Advisory Commission outlining proposed changes
to the Community Design Element of the General Plan. He noted that in briefly
reviewing the changes, he found some of them were minor in nature and some
had major significance. He discussed the options available to Council and
recommended that these items be placed on the April 6, 1981 agenda to allow
Council additional time to review and staff the opportunity to prepare back-
ground information and staff reports. After discussing the options, Council
concurred to postpone making any decisions on the changes until the April 6,
1981 General Plan Hearing.
Recommendations for Industrial Area
Mr. Hogan discussed the Planning Comm/ssion's report on the Industrial area,
stating that there was a motion and favorable consideration of an area south of
Arrow Route to the Atchinson, Topeka, Santa Fe Railroad over to Rochester on the
east and roughly Utica on the west for heavy industrial. He stated that Council
had directed staff to bring back to the Planning Commission consideration for any
areas that should also be designated as heavy industrial. He stated the Planning
Commission reviewed three areas and are recommending that the area east of the
Devote Freeway along the Day Creek Channel be changed from General Industrial
to Heavy Industrial. He stated the Commission also directed that the industrial
uses south of 8th Street in proximity to Rochester Avenue be allowed to continue
and expand their use. The Planning Commission recommended that the heavy industrial
designation not be extended south of the railroad tracks.
City Council Minutes
March 30, 1981
Page Two
Mr. Hogan reviewed each area individually. In referring to the area south
of the railroad tracks and west of the freeway, he stated the Planning Com-
mission felt this area should remain general industrial. However, they
wanted to insure that the present three heavy industrial users in the area
were protected by making sure that under the Industrial Specific Plan, the
zoning for the area designate them specifically as an allowable use with abilit~
to expand. He noted the reason for their recommendation was for the protection
of the visual corridor along the interstate since heavy industrial might have
outdoor storage, whereas general industrial would tend to restrict outdoor
storage facilities.
After much discussion regarding this area and the Planning Commission's recom-
mendation, the following motion was made.
Motion: Moved by Mikels that this area be planned as heavy industrial with
appropriate C. C. & R's developed through the Industrial Specific
Plan to mitigate against the adverse impact created, expecially with
regard to the freeway transversing across it. Seconded by Palombo
In the discussion that followed, Councilman Frost stated that he could find
no compelling reason to vote again the Planning Commission recommendation.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing. There being no
response, the Public Hearing was closed.
Mayor Schlosser indicated he wished to abstain from voting, since the area
being considered is a neighbor of his.
At this point, the question was called:
Ayes: Mikels, Palombo
Noes: Frost
Absent: Bridge
· Abstain: Schlosser
Motion Carried.
At Councilman Frost's request, Mr. Hogan read the type of uses permitted under
general industrial. Councilman Frost said he did not feel that general indus-
trial and heavy industrial necessarily have to be incompatible.
Mr. Hogan reviewed the second area, which is immediately east of the Freeway,
along the Day Creek Channel.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing. There being no response
the Public Hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Mikels that the land use for this area be designated as heavy
industrial. Seconded by Palombo.
Ayes: Frost, Mikels, Palombo
Noes: None
Absent: Bridge
Abstain: Schlosser
Motion Carried.
Mr. Hogan reviewed the third area, which is located south of 8th Street and
Santa Fe, in proximity to Rochester. He discussed the Planning Commission's
recommendation to designate this area as general industrial and grandfather the
existing uses in. However, he noted, that unlike normal grandfathering, they
would be allowed to expand.
Motion: Mikels stated he did not feel a special grandfather clause would be
appropriate for this area and moved the area be designated as heavy
industrial. Seconded by Palombo.
City Council Minutes
March 30, 1981
Page Three
Prior to voting on the motion, Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public
Hearing.
* Jay Vianna stated they bought the property as heavy industrial and
expressed his concern about the future if they are under any type of
conditional use permits.
* Jeff Sceranka, Planning Commissioner, stated the position of the Commission
was not to make it a conditional use permit or non-conforming use, but
simply that those uses would be conforming with the standards of that sub-
area and would not be restricted in any way from expanding their facilities.
* Ben Wick of Wagner Insul stated they bought the property 16 years ago as
heavy industrial and they wanted it to remain as heavy industrial.
* Betty McNay expressed her concern for those companies already there and how
the grandfather clause would affect them 20 years hence, noting that her
understanding of grandfather clauses was that it no longer applied when the
owner died or sold the property.
Sam Crowe, City Attorney, replied that the words being used apply to Gen-
eral Legislation and not to the designation it was given by the Planning
Commission. He stated that the Planning Commission merely stated that the
uses are legal. Jack Lam confirmed that it is not really technically a
grandfather clause, but merely means that there will be a regulation in
the industrial specific plan that provides the protection.
Since there was no further response, the Public Hearing was closed and the
question was called:
Ayes: Mikels, Palombo
' Noes: Frost
Absent: Bridge
Abstain: Schlosser
Motion Carried.
At this point (8:10 p.m.),Mayor Schlosser called a brief recess. The meeting
resumed at 8:30 p.m. with ail members of the Council present, including Councilman
Bridge who arrived at 8:20 p.m.
Revision to the Equestrian Element of the General Plan
Mr. Hogan, City Planner, indicated that a revised trails text had been presented
to the Council for their information, which the staff had not yet had the oppor-
tunity to review. He stated that a trails element along with a trails map had
been recommended by the Planning Commission for adoption. He indicated it would
be a multi-purpose trail for joggers, bicyclists and equestrians. Mr. Hogan
stated that staff would recommend Council consider the map and text as approved
by the Planning Commision for adoption and direct staff to work with the Alta
Loma riding club and the author of the revised trails element to bring back
any revisions at a later date.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for a Public Hearing:
* Dick Dahl, Chairman of the Planning Commission, requested Council expedite
the trails issue that evening. He stated the Equestrian Committee, which
is comprised of Chris Benoi~ Pam Henry and himself, recommended adoption of
of the trails element as approved by the Planning Commission. He stated that
they felt that any revisions would be better handled after the General Plan
is approved, in view of the time schedule the Council is on.
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March 30, 1981
Page F~ur
Motion: Moved by Palombo to approve the text and plans for a trails element
as brought forth by the Commission and the committee. Seconded by
Mikels.
Prior to voting on the motion, further discussion continued. Discussion regarding
financing mechanisms within the plan clarified that approval of the trails element
would not commit the City regarding financing but rather would leave the options
open. Public Hearing continued.
* Bruce Chitea stated he was the author of the proposed language revision
and that it was merely an incorporation of the plan the Council had before
them. In reply to Councilman Mikels question, he stated he revised the
language because until the December 1 meeting the Trail system was described
in the language of Sedway Cooke.
* Bill Evans inquired if the proposal limited the use of motorcycles.
Barry Hogan replied that motorbikes would not be considered compatible with
the existing use.
* Pam Henry related her reasons for supporting the trails system as a valuable
and unique asset to the con~nunity. She stated they concurred with Mr. Hogan's
recommendation. Approximately 25 people stood up in the audience, indicating
their support of the trails element.
* Doug Hone stated that while he hoped the trails element would be adopted,
he was concerned about who would assume liability and he suggested a clause
be included that when a trail crosses a major thoroughfare, flood control
channel, etc, the City will indemify the Developer.
* Betty McNay also expressed her concern regarding who would assume liability.
* Joe Farinella stated that he enjoyed using the trails for jogging.
* Sam Angona also expressed his concern about liability as a property owner
and asked if City planned to indemnify? Sam Crowe, City Attorney replied
that issue is not included in the proposed plan and that when a specific
plan is adopted, it will be addressed.
* Shari Thomas, representing 110 members of the "Rancho Rebel's" 4H Group,
expressed their support of the trails system.
* Gina Kelly and Lisa Fairnell stated their support of the trails system
from the viewpoint of the young people who use it.
There being no further comments, Mayor Schlosser closed the Public Hearing.
and the question was called on the motion.
Motion: Moved by Palombo to approve the text and plans for a trails element
as brought forth by the Commission and the Committee. Seconded
by Mikels. Ail Voting Aye. Motion Carried.
Motion: Moved by Palombo to include all revisions and questions as submitted
and return to Council with Planning Commission recommendations one
month from the date of adoption of General Plan. Ail Voting Aye.
Motion Carried.
Councilman Bridge requested that staff touch base with the bicycling element of
the community.
Barry Hogan indicated the next item of discussion would be any other items of the
land use and development super element that had not already been discussed.
City Council Min~tes
March 30, i981
Page Five
Councilman Mikels stated he had a few minor changes as follows:
Page 28, 4th paragraph, 7th line--"integrately" is not a word.
Page 42, Under Community Com~ercial, Second Paragraph -- Omit "the community
commercial businesses tend to provide food and food services" since it
is repeated in the very next phrase.
Page 49 -- Delete the sentence which reads "The rapid development of land
and the lack of control over land use and transportation planning at the
regional level add further to the problem of developing a transportation
system".
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing. There being no response,
Public Hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Palombo to approve Land Use and Development Super Element
Text as revised. Seconded by Mikels. All Voting Aye. Motion Carried.
3- CONSIDERATION FOR ADOPTION OF LAND USE IN THE ALTA LOMA AREA
I-1 LOCATION: 84 acres located north of Almond at the End of Beryl Avenue
Mr. Hogan stated that Mr. Sievers, owner of the property, was requesting
clarification regarding what his land use actually is and stated that
the Planning Co~nission recommendation was for very low density with less
than two dwelling unit per acre.
Councilman Bridge indicated he felt it was improper to classify this area
as either open space or hillside development.
Motion: Moved by Bridge to classify area for low density with less than
two units per acre. Seconded by Palombo.
Prior to voting on the motion, Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public
Hearing.
* Stan Sievers stated their desire was for the Council to reaffirm the desires
of the Planning Con~nission
There being no further response, the Public Hearing was closed. Coucil voted
on the motion as stated above. Ail voting aye. Motion Carried.
I-2 LOCATION: End of Hermosa Grove
Mr. Hogan referred to a letter distributed to Council from Mr. Templeton of the
Planning Center. Mr. Hogan reviewed the Council's previous decision to retain
the site as parkland with the intent that the Groves be preserved. He stated
the other option proposed by staff is to designate the area as master plan
required and down size the park to approximately 20 acres. Another option he
reviewed would be to indicate to the applicant the City's desire to consider
a concurrent filing of the General Plan amendment with the zoning and development
for the project.
Councilman Frost stated that he had visited the site and noted the area to be
dedicated as parkland was undevelopable and subject to flooding. Councilman
Bridge stated he also had reservations.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing.
* Peter Templeton from the Planning Center stated one of the unique things
about the site is the beautiful Eucalyptus Grove which does require a certain
sensitivity in planning. He referred to similar sites they had designed and
'offered to take Council to see some of these existing developments. He
discussed their proposed plans and requested direction from Council.
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March 30, 1981
Page Six
* Anne C. Calinsky noted that the proposed park is within flooding limits.
She stated the potential commercial site bothered her and stressed
the importance of preserving the Grove.
There being no further response, the Public Hearing was closed.
In the discussion that followed, the Council concurred to retain the desig-
nation as parkland at the present time. Since this motion is already on
record, there was no need to make a new motion.
I-5 LOCATION: East of Chaffey College between Wilson and the Extension
of Banyan
Mr. Hogan discussed the request of the adjacent property owners. He noted
that the Planning Commission had reduced the land use for this parcel from
the consultant's reco~endation of medium (4-15 du/ac) to low-medium (4-8 du/ac).
Motion: Moved by Mikels that the land use for this area be designated as
low-medium (4-8 du/ac) residential planned development. Seconded by Bridge
for discussion.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for public hearing.
* Roger Sunreth expressed concern about the higher density for this area
referring to the low density in the surrounding area and Chaffey College's
policy of openness. He questioned why everything above Banyan was low
density except Haven.
Councilman Frost replied that he thought the density was an appropriate
transition with the very high probability of a regional park, as well as
further south below the College, the transition into the Foothill Freeway.
He also discussed the need of providing housing for people of middle
income brackets.
* Larry Wolfe, Architect with Barmakian and Wolfe, stated that his firm
was the architectural firm that had prepared previous designs on this
parcel. He stated he is preparing land uses right now which will be
within the 4-8 density.
There being no further response, the Public Hearing was closed. The Council
voted on the motion as indicated above. All voting aye. Motion Carried.
Mayor Schlosser called a recess at 10:00 p.m. The meeting resumed at 10:20
p.m. with all Councilmembers and staff present. Council resumed discussion
of the Alta Loma area. Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing.
* James W. Keller, resident on LeVine Street, stated he had been asked by
the local residents to address the Council regarding the proposed land
use of medium residential for the property bordered by Victoria on the
north, Archibald on the w~st, Romona on the east and the Railroad on
the south. He stated they had presented a petition to the Planning Com-
mission with 187 signatures from concerned residents, 180 of whom stated
they opposed the proposed medium residential zoning. He stated that
the residents request that the City Council reject any plan proposing
development exceeding the existing residential average density and approve
only those proposals which maintain the established residential atmos-
phere with the construction of single fa~ly dwellings without exceeding
a density of 3-5 dwelling units per acre.
* Frank Moerke questioned the reason for medium-high density in this area.
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March 30, 1981
Page Seven
* Jackie DiMonia expressed her concerns about increased traffic, flooding
problems and crowding of schools.
* Harley Levitt, owner of one of the properties being developed, responded
to Mrs. DiMonia's statements about flooding, increased traffic and over-
crowding of schools. He stated they are coming in with 8.3 units per acre
with a planned unit development to provide affordable housing in the
$80,000 to $100,000 range.
* Doug Hone discussed some of the advantages of Planned Unit Developments
as opposed to single family.
There being for further response, the public hearing was closed.
Moti6n: Moved by Mikels to sustain the Planning Commission decision for
this property. Seconded by Palombo. All Voting aye. Motion
Carried.
Mayor Schlosser re-opened Public Hearing for further discussion and input
on the Alta Loma area.
* Mel Pierson, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, requested that
a parcel of land on the southwest corner of Haven and Wilson be designated
as Convenience Commercial and related his reasons for this request.
The concensus of Council was that this request should not be reviewed as
part of the General Plan process and suggested that Mr. Pierson might file
a specific request for the proposed land use at one of the times
the Council would designate per year for revisions to the General Plan.
However, the Council concurred that this would not be an appropriate site for
commercial designation.
There being no further response, Mayor Schlosser closed the Public Hearing
on the Alta Loma area.
Motion: Moved by Palombo to approve the land use for the Alta Loma area.
Seconded by Mikels. All voting aye. Motion Carried.
4. CONSIDERATION FOR ADOPTION OF LAND USE IN THE CUCAMONGA AREA
11-24 LOCATION: 20 + acres located east of Vineyard Avenue, a~roximately
1,000 feet south of Foothill Boulevard.
Tim Beedle, Senior Planner, reviewed the parcel being considered and dis-
cussed the Planning Commission recommendation at their 1-19-81 meeting for
Medium-Residential (4-14 du/ac) on the western one-half and Low Density
Residential (2-4 du/ac) on the eastern one-half of the parcel. He referred
to a letter received from William D. Alexander, Foothill Real Estate,
requesting permission to address the Council. He noted that prior to the
Planning Commission's recommendation, the parcel was originally shown on
the Draft Land Use Plan as Low-Medium Residential (4-8 du/ac).
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing.
* William D. Alexander, Foothill Real Estate, indicated he represented the
owner of the proposed Vineyard Green Condominium project. He disputed
that the property was designated low-medium, stating it was originally high
density. He referred to a mobile home park development which was planned
for the site.
City Council Minutes
March 30, 1981
Page Eight
* Larry Wolfe, Barmakian and Wolfe, discussed the Planning Commission
recommendation and expressed his concern about circulation. He noted
that the effect of the perimeter between multi-family and single family
is significant.
* Charles Toole stated he was Mr. Alexander's partner. He indicated they
had contacted the Council for a Better Co~unity, who had advised them
they had no objections to their plans. He stated they feel they have
addressed all of the problems they objected to in the project which
has been approved to the north.
* William Runyand stated he represented the Homeowner's Association of the
Centennial Home Tract. He stated they found the proposed development to
the north of them totally offensive and requested that Council re-evaluate
this development. He stated that if the proposed development to the
north was eliminated, residents would be in favor of allowing the higher
density zoning to the sides of their tract. However, he stated that the
residents did not want to be completely blocked in by high density.
Council discussed the parcel in question, as well as the adjacent parcels.
After much discussion, the following motion was made:
Motion: Moved by Jon Mikels to Change Parcel Number 1 to create a transition
use and designate the low-medium (4-8) rather than low density
(2-4). Seconded by Palontbo.
Prior to voting on the motion discussion regarding circulation and traffic
continued with public input.
* William Runyand stated they had asked the Planning Commission to provide
them with another way out of their tract and referred to some of the
problems during heavy rains.
* Larry Wolfe, Barmakian and Wolfe, related some of the problems that could
occur when a parcel is split.
* Mr. Antonya commented that by dropping it down to 4-8, you have really
split the parcels and hampered development
* William Alexander commented that its easy to say reduce and stated they
are trying to provide affordable housing.
There being no further response, the public hearing was closed.
After further discussion, the previous motion and second w~re withdrawn and
discussion of this item was continued until April 6, 1981. Mayor Schlosser
called a brief recess at this point. (11:55 p.m.). The meeting was called
back to order at 12:10 a.m. with all ~ity Council members present.
11-1 LOCATION: Approximately 140 acres located between 4th Street, 6th
Street, Archibald Avenue and Hellman Avenue.
Tim Beedle reviewed the Planning Commission's recommendation for an Indus-
trial park fronting on 4th Street and Archibald with medium density resi-
dential south of 6th Street with a 2% acre park site located within the
Medium Density residential.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for public hearing:
* Gerry Koski, resident on Layton Street, related homeowner's objections to ~he
Planning Commission decision. He stated the proposal presented which is
similar to Alternate 2 would be most favorable to the residents. He
stated that they had presented a petition which asked the Council to
consider more residential in that area to continue the residential devel-
opment that is north of 6th Street.
City Council Minutes
March 30, 1981
Page Nine
* Don Magnos related his objections to the Planning Conmmission recom-
mendation and stated he felt an industrial development would take
away from their property values.
* Frank Woerke discussed his reasons for opposing industrial development.
* Collin Keith discussed his objection and stated that their community
already felt isolated from the rest of Cucamonga. He also noted the
lack of parks in their area.
* A1 Blessant stated that he felt that properly landscaped Industrial
would be better than single family.
* Doug Hone stated that an industrial development with good design standards
aHd proper buffering could be very attractive.
* Roy Radcliff stated he owned five of the ten acres south of A1 Blessant's
property and indicated that either way on the zoning was alright with
him.
There being for further response, Mayor Schlosser closed the Public Hearing.
Councilman Bridge stated he had visited the area and felt that industrial
development w~uld be a much more desirable use than higher density resi-
dential and cited some of the advantages. He said that staff would insure
that the industrial development would be properly designed and landscaped.
Councilman Mikels agreed and related why he felt that industrial would be
the best possible use for the area.
Barry Hogan described the type of development, landscaping and design control
the City w~uld require.
Motion: Moved by Bridge that the entire area be designated as industrial
with a park site designated on the plan. Seconded by Mikels.
Ayes: Bridge, Mikels, Palombo, Schlosser
Noes: Frost
Absent: None
Motion Carried.
11-18 LOCATION: 5 acres located at southeast corner of Church Street and
Archibald
Tim Beedle discussed the area and the Planning Commission recommendation
to designate the property for Office Use.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing:
*. Anne Calinsky requested that the Council deny the Planning Commission
~recommendation for the reasons she had stated previously.
* Bob Mills discussed why he felt the Council should uphold the Planning
Commission recommendation noting they do not feel that office use is
incompatible with medium density.
* Lloyd Michael asked the Council to uphold Planning Commission recommen-
dation.
* Bruce Chitea questioned whether there was any local opposition.
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March 30, 1981
Page Ten
There being no further response, the Public Hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Frost to reaffirm the Planning Commission's decision.
Seconded by Mikels.
Ayes: Bridge, Frost, Mikels, Schlosser
Noes: None
Abstain: Palombo*
Motion Carried.
* Councilman Palombo abstained since he was out of the room at the time the
motion was made.
11-17 LOCATION: Approximately 10 acre park site located south of Church
street on Romona.
Tim Beedle briefly discussed the dedication of the park site.
Mayor Schlosser opened the meeting for Public Hearing:
*Paul. N. Byrnes of the Malborough Development Corporation indicated
his support of this item and noted that it was a very good deal for
the City.
There being no further response, the Public Hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Mikels to approve the dedication of the park site.
Seconded by Palombo and all voting aye. Motion Carried.
11-15 LOCATION: A~roximatel¥ 40 acres located at the site of the
La Mancha Golf Course
Tim Beedle indicated that the applicant was willing to dedicate a portion
of the site for a five acre park and that the Council would not have to
take any action if they concurred. The consensus of Council was to leave
the designation as is.
Mayor Schlossed asked if there were any other people who wished to speak
regarding the Cucamonga area and opened the meeting for Public Hearing.
* Robert Chambers stated he represented Dorothy and Dominic Pelgren who
owned property at 9639 Baseline. He referred to five acre parcel
with 328 feet of frontage on Baseline which is now zoned for low-
medium density. He stated they are requesting an increase in density
to next step and requested Council review and advise.
Barry Hogan indicated that the original planning commission recommendation
was for 5-8. Council concurred that 5-8 was an appropriate use.
There being no further response, the Public Hearing was closed.
At this point Mayor Schlosser called for a motion on the Industrial area
which was discussed earlier.
Motion: Moved by Palombo to approve the industrial plan, seconded by
Mikels and all voting aye. Motion Carried.
Motion: Moved by Palombo and seconded by Mikels to adjourn to the April 1,
1981 City Council meeting. Seconded by Mikels. Motion carried
unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 1:50 a.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Ginny Zientara
Acting Deputy Clerk