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WORKSHOP MINUTES OF
RANCHO
CUCAMONGA THE PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 22, 2016 - 4:00 PM
Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center
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10500 Civic Center Drive
Rancho Cucamonga, California
I. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance 4:05 PM
Roll Call
Chairman Wimberly X Vice Chairman Oaxaca X
• Munoz X Macias X Fletcher X
Additional Staff Present: Candyce Burnett, Planning Director; Jeff Bloom, Deputy City
Manager/Economic and Community Development; Tom Grahn, Associate Planner. Donald
Granger, Senior Planner. Brian Sandona, Associate Engineer:Jennifer Nakamura, Associate
Planner, Flavio Nunez, Management Analyst Il; Dominick Perez, Associate Planner: Lois
Schrader, Planning Commission Secretary:Jennifer Palacios, Office Specialist ll;Mike Smith.
Senior Planner: Tabe van der Zwaag, Associate Planner; Dat Tran, Assistant Planner:
Kimberly Rhoads, Assistant Planner, Francie Palmer, Communications Manager: Lori
Sassoon, DCPd/Administrative Services: Bill Wittkopf, Public Works Services Director;
Councilmember Williams: Tasha Hunter. Engineering Technician.Michael Toy. Info. Services
Specialist 1, Carlo Cambare, Engineering Technician: Willie Valbuena, Assistant Engineer:
Dan James. Senior Civil Engineer
11 II. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS
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which might be disruptive to the decorum of the meeting.
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III. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
A. A TRAINING WORKSHOP REGARDING STRATEGIES USED TOWARDS THE
DEVELOPMENT OF SUCCESSFUL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH RESPECT
TO DESIGN, PARKING, TRAFFIC AND MARKET CONDITIONS.
the workshop was opened by Candyce Burnett, Planning Director, with a brief summary
of the recent Development Code revisions and future revisions under construction as the
concepts and standards for Mixed Use Development are incorporated into the City's
planning documents.
Joseph Janczyk gave a PowerPoint presentation, (copy on file) re:supporting economic
data that makes Mixed Use development an attainable and sustainable reality for
Rancho Cucamonga and lends support to the idea that this type of development can •
benefit the City by providing another vehicle towards economic sustainability for future
generations.
Commissioner Fletcher asked Mr. Janczyk how to correlate job growth vs housing
demand.
Mr. Janczyk said for every 100 new jobs, a demand for about 65 - 70 new homes
whether it be single-family homes or apartments is generated.
Neal Payton gave a PowerPoint presentation (copy on file) on how Mixed Use
Development feels and the experience of it and why it matters. He talked about the
characteristics of high performing "walkups"and what factors make these developments
most successful. sociability, access and density.
Commissioner Macias asked about the use of high density development. He said
Rancho Cucamonga does not have the densities or critical mass to support this. He
suggested we look at smart growth opportunities for communities that are less than a
major urban core. He expressed concern that as we attempt urban communities we
may end up with little "fortresses" everywhere. He asked how a city blends smart
growth within the existing infrastructure so we don't get this pattern of nodes. He asked
if transportation is the key.
Mr. Payton said that question leaves much to address. He said a multiway boulevard
might be applicable here because we already have arterials but how to connect to the
arterials might be more subtle. He said it may be a way to front boulevard arterials that •
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is "humane". Mr. Payton agreed it is a good point.
Commissioner Fletcher said it is a good point of 619 walkups existing in 30 of the largest
communities of U.S. He thought they were only built in very dense areas.
Mr. Payton disagreed and said one example is found in Claremont. He clarified that it
does not mean they are in dense places. but they are in metropolitan areas. He said
there are several in our area. He said Claremont is a good example of low density
walkable urbanism.
Commissioner Fletcher said he likes the concept but expressed concern about having
little pockets everywhere because of how spread out our city is.
Mr. Payton said we need to think of working for generations after you-development
slowly fills in and should not worry us. He suggested we think of stones in a pond-the
ripple spreads and grows and they eventually meet each other. He said every suburban
jurisdiction has this challenge. If one developer is successful, other developers will see
• that and then it takes off.
Jeffrey Tumlin gave a PowerPoint presentation (copy on file). He said Commissioner
Macias asked the right question. It is hard work for a community like ours, built for the
automobile to transition to a hybrid place. He said that we know most of Rancho
Cucamonga is not walkable and will not be changing. He said we should aim towards
linking them. We have already made some progress noting that Terra Vista and then
Victoria Gardens are i" and 2"' attempts-link the good places that you have. He said
rethinking our approach to transportation can help take this place and respond to market
preferences to build and respond to future needs while maintaining the economy. We
have to manage for the current population and plan for the future. He said a major
problem is the belief that adding another lane of highway will solve the congestion
problem because it changes the land value further down the road and encourages
sprawl and additional development down the road only to exacerbate the congestion.
He said it is a problem of linear thinking vs system thinking.
Commissioner Macias noted that after retiring from a career of being a transportation
planner he said he has seen many presentations on the subject and this one of the best
he has seen.
Commissioner Fletcher said he was encouraged by the idea of the abundance of jobs in
Rancho. He said he always believed that if we created more jobs in Rancho, people
would be able to live in the city they work in that it would solve many of these
transportation problems. He said he has heard we have to keep growing to be
• sustainable (economically) but development fees will not help 40 years in future. He
asked for comment regarding building to pay bills vs maximizing retail space and
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increase revenue for the City of Rancho Cucamonga.
Mr. Janczyk said considering the expected economic growth and the favorable sector of
incomes of people as that growth continues, and their desire for minimal commutes, and
without new development, the City will benefit as their incomes grow:they will purchase
homes, remodel them or the City could choose to develop more. It is a choice of the
City to bring in high quality. high profile firms with high paying jobs-but the City then has
a basis to make those choices.
Mr. Tumlin said there is a declining ratio of incoming tax dollars vs infrastructure costs.
He said a big component is the high cost of streets. He suggested it can be solved by
reducing infrastructure/streets with smart design i.e. right sizing: to increase the land
value per unit of infrastructure may increase density or quality. He said there is an
optimum range of density-once development is above 12 units per acre: walkable retail
becomes possible and there is enough market there to support stores within walking
distance and also may justify running transit that has reasonable frequency. He said
higher density at 35 units-per acre is more magical with walkability with transit and still
makes driving possible. He said higher than that creates a detriment if people are still •
driving. About 12-50 units per acre with transit is great. He said to plan for that quality
of development first in nodes at existing or future major transit stops then connect those
nodes along major corridors. He said it creates a lasting economic value for single-
family neighborhoods as well because homes are then located in a walkable area and
also have access to transit (favorable to milllenials).
Mr. Payton said along Foothill Boulevard there is about 105 acres of raw land- 1FAR is
4.5 million square feet of"stuff"(development). He said with a correct code there would
be pockets of suburban/urbanism, but over 20 years, the older strip malls will see the
favorable change in the value of the land and they will jump in. We have enough land
that could have a big impact along that corridor. He said another big advantage for
Rancho is that we have deep parcels as well.
Commissioner Macias said we need to rethink the plan with different metrics from years
before. Sacramento has sucked local communities dry of resources. He referred to his
own grown children: although they are gone and out of the house, they may eventually
return to Rancho. They value/want both lifestyles: urban and walkable vs driving- they
enjoy walking and they like having the choice to drive. He said he is now in retirement
and enjoys walking but walking to the market can be inconvenient because of street
crossings and other factors discussed in the presentation.
Mr. Payton said that if we can offer the choice it makes this a richer place and attracts a
broader segment of the population. He said in San Bernardino County, the list of walkup
places include Redlands, downtown San Bernardino. Monrovia. and downtown Pomona •
-they all have in common a tighter grid, planned since World War il. which allows them
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to infill. He said our empty parcels are best hope.
Commissioner Macias said there is a lot to be said about aesthetics. He said he
personally chooses to dine at Claremont Village because it is aesthetically pleasing,it's
a place to go-people gravitate there.
Mr. Payton pointed out that the restaurants like to be there as well; it is mutually
reinforcing-it is all about the experience.
Mr. Tumlin said Victoria Gardens is trying to imitate this. The downside is that it is a
walkable village surrounded by a moat of parking; most people have to drive to get
there. He said the challenge is how to connect Victoria Gardens to Foothill Boulevard
(transit) and other pieces that you are working on-realize that it is incremental change
and it will change slowly. He said it is important to make sure as you contemplate new
development to be sure it contributes positively to those already here. Trade a
streamline approval process for development impact fees-require a baseline of beauty
and contribution to future economics of the City and to better it.
• Commissioner Macias said we need to do a better job teaching people that
transportation costs money. Freeways are not free; transportation and parking are
costly.
Mr. Tumlin said we use the communist method-we all pay whether we use them or not.
Those people not using the roads are paying for all the infrastructure and it encourages
more motorists. He said providing unlimited mobility is creating our mobility problem-
there is no free lunch; it is more efficient for the user to pay.
Ms. Burnett said we are looking at next phase of Mixed Use development. She asked
for next step goals suggestions for the City along Foothill Boulevard.
Mr. Payton said we should look at the maximum block size; see that streets align;
calculate on street intersection density to support walkability(about 150 per square mile)
- with the grid all else is possible.
Mr. Tumlin said do not start with regulations; start with vision and desired outcomes;
describe the qualities of what you like in buildingal then the streets1then the feel of place
and then consider your goals of health, levels of traffic then develop the regulations
based on that. Develop the design and management regulations in order to achieve the
desired outcome. He said do not not be afraid to throw out all of your old regulations-
they were designed to solve a different set of problems a long time ago;but they are not
what you need to solve current problems or to achieve our current aspirations. Focus
• the regulations on the positive. Point developers and landowners toward what you want
and not on your fears.
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Commissioner Fletcher noted a prior comment re:protecting the existing communities
and to not allow the new development to have an overflow effect on them-he said he
believes we can do both (preserve the existing and have new mixed use development).
PAr. Tumlin said we should ask our residents how development can be used to make our
neighborhoods better. Enter into a compact with developers to get what you want.
Mr. Payton noted that street trees are really important:home values with street trees get
a premium.
Mr. Tumlin said there is an increase in walking rates when shade is provided.
IV. ADJOURNMENT
The Commission adjourned at 6:30 PM
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