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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
June 12, 2002
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho
Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: John Mannerino, Larry McNiel, Pam Stewart, Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: Rich Macias
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, Craig Fox,
Assistant City Attorney; Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, Debra Meier,
Contract Planner, Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary;Joe Stofa,
Associate Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Stewart, carried 3-0-1-1 (Macias absent, Mannerino
abstain), to approve the minutes of May 22, 2002.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DRC2002-00260 - ISLANDS RESTAURANT - A request to
construct a 5,431 square foot restaurant with bar on 1.3 acre of land in the Industrial Park
District(Subarea 7), located at the southeast corner of Milliken Avenue and Foothill Boulevard-
APN: 229-011-25. Related Files: Development Review 99-11 (Catellus Master Plan) and
Conditional Use Permit 99-04 (Lowe's).
Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and indicated that the Standard
Conditions had inadvertently been left out of the agenda packets and were in front of the
Commissioners.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Scott Wilkeson, Hogle-Ireland,4200 Latham Street, Suite B, Riverside,thanked staff for assistance
through the Design Review process. He said the restaurant is a continuation of the development of
the Lowes center. He stated the restaurant is enhanced with some of the same architectural
features seen throughout the center. He agreed to the Standard Conditions and indicated he was
available to answer questions.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Chairman McNiel stated the project spent a lot of time in the Design Review process and the
applicant was very cooperative. He felt the restaurant will be highly successful.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the applicant should have been allowed to use their signature tower
because he believed it fits in with the decor of the restaurant. He felt the palapas at Rubio's are
distinctive and give the building character.
Chairman McNiel stated they considered allowing the tower as proposed and felt approval may lead
to future similar requests.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that was not a good enough reason and did not think it would be
precedent setting. He observed that no one else has asked to have palapa style umbrellas after they
were approved for Rubio's.
Commissioner Stewart stated the Design Review Committee looked at several different sample
boards and she thought what was selected will be very attractive.
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the resolution approving Conditional
Use Permit DRC2002-00260 including the Special Conditions. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MANNERINO, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MACIAS - carried
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT16279-COLORADO
PACIFIC COMMUNITIES-A residential subdivision of 79 single-family lots on 57 acres in the
Very Low Residential District (1 to 2 dwelling units per acre) of the Etiwanda Specific Plan,
located on the north and south sides of realigned Highland Avenue, between Etiwanda and East
Avenues - APN: 227-051-01, 04, 05, 06, 09, and 28 and 227-061-05. Related File: Tree
Removal Permit DRC2001-00323.
Debra Meier, Contract Planner, presented the staff report and suggested modifications to the
Resolution of Approval. She suggested adding a condition to highlight the Memorandum of
Agreement with San Bernardino Associated Governments for replacement of tees along the north
property boundary as mitigation for the freeway construction. She also indicated that City
Engineering staff suggested adding a condition to provide catch basins on the northwest and
southwest corners of Highland Avenue Southwest Frontage Road and Street"G." She reported that
staff was suggesting that Engineering Condition 19 be revised to eliminate the connection at Pecan
Avenue north of Vista Street. Ms. Meier observed that the City has a policy that calls for
independent review by an outside consultant of all acoustical analyses submitted by developers.
She reported she had been on the telephone with the outside consultant minutes before the meeting
and he indicated that an 8-foot wall along the north property boundary would adequately mitigate
noise to the rear yards. She stated she did not have his written report as yet but she did have his
verbal assurance and she felt the Planning Commission could take action on the project. She
explained that the applicant will have to conduct another noise study when a Development Review is
submitted for the design and layout of houses. She noted that the focus of the current noise study
was to address rear yard noise, not interior noise. She indicated that if the walls are extended 200
feet along the north property boundary to the east and west,then the corner side yard walls for those
lots on the east and west corners of this project could be 6 feet instead of 8 to 11 feet high.
Commissioner Mannerino asked if the developer would have the ability to build the wall offsite.
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Ms. Meier replied that the extended wall on the east will be within City right of way.
Jose Stofa,Associate Engineer, indicated that the property on the west is part of the Caltrans excess
property that will likely go to the City.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if that property will be developed or if it will go fallow.
Ms. Meier responded that is unknown at this time and if the lot is developed as residential, access
will have to be taken off Highland Avenue, which will be very busy.
Commissioner Stewart felt the project should be continued to the next meeting to allow staff time to
see and digest the noise report from the outside consultant.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Danny Brose, Colorado Pacific Communities, 31012 Mia Mirador, San Juan Capistrano, concurred
with staff on the additions and revisions to conditions. He hoped the Planning Commission could act
on the application this evening because he had property escrows ready to close that could not close
until the project receives City approval. He stated that the noise consultant was hired by the City.
He indicated a willingness to condition the project subject to final approval of the noise study by the
City.
Brad Buller, City Planner, requested that Mr. Brose discuss the results of the neighborhood
meetings.
Mr. Brose responded that he would give the City a letter on June 13 for the file. He said they had
numerous meetings with resident groups to the south and east over the last 11 year. He said he
had 4 or 5 group meetings and 30-40 independent meetings with individual residents. He explained
they had distributed 11-inch by 17-inch maps to both tracts. He felt the project had been fairly well
received by both groups but concerns had been raised regarding a connection to Pecan Avenue. He
said they tried to develop the project with the surrounding residents' needs in mind.
Ms. Meier pointed out that staff was now recommending the Engineering condition be revised to
delete the Pecan Avenue connection.
Mr. Buller stated that the last time the project was before the Commission, there had been strong
public comment objecting to the Pecan Avenue extension. He said the City Engineer indicated this
afternoon that Pecan Avenue does not have to go through even though a connection at Pecan
Avenue makes better sense from a public safety standpoint because it would offer another way of
ingress and egress for the tract to the south. He suggested the City may wish to check with the
residents to see if they would favor having the street go through.
Commissioner Mannerino asked the applicant's position with respect to Pecan Avenue.
Mr. Brose felt it would be good for the existing residents and the new development to have Pecan
Avenue go through but he supported the existing residents'desires to not have it enter the new tract.
Commissioner Mannerino asked Mr. Brose's position on the 200-foot extension of the wall to the east
and west ends of the tract.
Mr. Brose supported extending the wall.
Laurie Allen 13057 Larrera Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that Mr. Brose worked very well with
the existing residents. She said she spoke with Mr. Brose regarding her concern about Pecan
Avenue being continued into the new tract and he told her the City wanted the street punched
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through. She stated they have existed with only one means of ingress and egress for 40 years and it
works fine. She feared the City wants to utilize Pecan Avenue to alleviate the traffic on Etiwanda
Avenue and Victoria Street. She indicated that she had been to every meeting regarding this project
for the last VA year and said she had questioned the horse population in Etiwanda. She stated there
are many people who walk and they had been told they could walk on those trails. She said she
asked Ms. Meier today if they could use the trails for walking and Ms. Meier responded that the trails
are for the use of the homeowners. She asked how there could be a private community within their
community and felt everyone should be able to use the trails. She said she explained that the trails
at Belmont were determined not to be private and they get to walk on those trails. She questioned if
the equestrian trails will be open for public use or if they will only be for the private use of the
homeowners. She said Mr. Brose had spent a lot of time and money on the project and worked very
well with the homeowners. She supported the project so long as Pecan Avenue does not go
through.
Karen Long, 13021 Vista Street, Rancho Cucamonga, read a letter into the record. She indicated
her husband commented that the City would continue to hold meetings until the residents were worn
down and then the City would do what it wanted. She stated the present plan calls for Pecan
Avenue to be extended with sewer lines down the middle of it. She objected to having water from
the new development flowing south on Pecan Avenue. She requested that Pecan Avenue not be
extended because of increased traffic created by Etiwanda High and Etiwanda Intermediate schools.
Further she felt it is a conflict of interest to have Commissioners serve on the Trails Advisory
Committee and felt the City unfairly advises the equestrian people about meetings so they can
appear whenever new housing developments are being built to tell existing residents about the
needs for horse trails. She said the existing residents do not want trails and she felt the City uses
underhanded methods to force horse trails on the developer and on the residents. She asked why
the previous plan proposed by the developer had not been accepted and asked that they be able to
keep their identity as an historical part of Etiwanda.
Commission Mannerino thought the suggestion that the Planning Commission should not help plan
trails by being on the Trails Advisory Committee was interesting.
Chairman McNiel thought the letter was after the fact, as most of the issues brought up in Ms. Long's
letter had already been resolved.
Ms. Meier said there were no plans to extend a sewer or storm drain line down Pecan Avenue. She
confirmed that Pecan Avenue is no longer planned to be extended.
Chairman McNiel stated the Commissioners spend a lot of time and effort and get little thanks. He
stated that other from venting, he did not feel she had accomplished a great deal because the issues
she raised concern about had already been resolved.
Vone Dempsey, 13067 Larrera Street, Rancho Cucamonga, wanted to be sure the issue of Pecan
Street going through was resolved. She said she had appeared before the Commission in the past
discussing traffic issues. She noted that at the end of the school day, she sometimes cannot get into
or out of her driveway because of people parking while waiting for students. She felt that problem
will grow when the elementary school is completed. She said parents park up and down Pecan and
on Larrera Street. She also opposed opening Larrera Street out the other way. She said they have
a lot of young children in the neighborhood and felt it is now a safe place for the children who live
there. She knew the school traffic would be diverted if Pecan Avenue would be connected.
Chairman McNiel asked if she had been to School Board meetings regarding the traffic problem.
Ms. Dempsey stated she had not been to the Etiwanda School Board but she works for the Chaffey
School District and they are concerned about the tremendous growth in that district. She said the
population growth is unbelievable. She observed that a new school will be open in the fall but she
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felt another new school will be needed the following year because of the rapid growth. She said they
will not have another school the following year because they don't even have land for it yet. She
questioned how the City Planning Commission plan for schools but stated it is difficult to find parcels
for high schools. She commented she sometimes has to visit Etiwanda High School for her work
and it is a nightmare to get in and out of there. She said it is not the only school with traffic problems
but it is the only school sitting in a residential area with very narrow streets and lots and lots of kids.
Chairman McNiel stated she probably knew that schools are the purview of the state. He said the
schools generally allow the City a cursory review of plans and the City makes recommendations with
respect to parking, etc., but the schools do not have to listen to those recommendations. He also
commented new schools are not built until existing schools are so impacted they cannot absorb
more children and new schools are pushed by absolute need, not projected needs.
Donna Benson, 13040 Vista St., Rancho Cucamonga, stated she lives in one of the homes between
Vista Street and "A" Street. She expressed concern about the traffic on "A" Street. She asked if
there are any plans to govern the rate of speed and noted the street is a nice straight stretch. She
stated there are scratch marks on the road on Pecan Avenue because it is a tempting area for kids
to speed. She questioned the wall height will behind her property and observed she lives between
two streets, while most people have a home behind them as a buffer before the next street. She
noted her house is across from the entrance to the cul-de-sac as well as backing up to A" Street.
She was concerned about the traffic coming from 11 homes on the cul-de-sac. She said she lives in
a two-story home and her bedroom faces the north and she felt all the noise from the traffic on the
cul-de-sac will come right into her bedroom. She questioned the proposed speed limit on"A"Street.
Mr. Buller stated there will be a 6-foot high perimeter masonry wall around the new development and
the speed limit in any neighborhood is 25 mph. He said the policing of the speed limit will have to be
ongoing as it is on any streets.
Ms. Benson said they don't have good police coverage or otherwise we wouldn't have kids racing up
and down the street at 1 am and 2 am. She was concemed with the straight road and that it will also
be the main road going into the tract.
Chairman McNiel observed the street does not go directly through.
Ms. Benson responded it will be used to access a lot of the houses.
Ms. Meier reported there will be no sidewalk on Ms. Benson's side of the street on Street"A"behind
her house. She said there is an existing windrow along the north side of the church and that
windrow will be extended along the property boundary behind Ms. Benson's house, as there will be a
widened parkway. She observed the trees will be small when planted and will be planted 8 feet on
center but will eventually form a screen from traffic and activities to the north.
Kelly Chase, 13215 Catalpa Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she lives to the east of the tract.
She said it was her understanding that the developer will be putting up a sound wall at the north end
of the tract and she questioned why there is no sound wall north of her property to mitigate the noise
from the freeway.
Chairman McNiel indicated the wall will be extended 200 feet east of the project's property boundary.
Ms. Chase asked if the wall would go all the way to East Avenue.
Mr. Buller stated the wall issue was discussed at the Route 30 Task Force meetings. He reported
Caltrans did a sound study with the freeway and it was determined that Caltrans was not obligated to
provide a sound wall in that location because there were too few homes along that stretch of
freeway. He noted it is a State project and the State determined there was not a sufficient number of
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homes to require mitigation. He said this development will help, but there will still be no wall for the
remaining area up to East Avenue. He reported that the Rancho Cucamonga City Council has
always asked Caltrans to construct a wall, but Caltrans has not.
Ms. Chase asked if they need to contact Caltrans.
Mr. Buller stated it is not a new issue and has been with Caltrans.
Chairman McNiel stated the request is in process with Caltrans.
Ms. Chase asked for confirmation that Catalpa Street will not be a through street and that it will be
blocked off without walkways or fire access.
Ms. Meier confirmed that was correct.
Ms. Chase asked if they should contact Code Enforcement if there are excessive smells or flies
coming from the bridle trails. She asked if they would be able to use the trails. She also was
concerned about rodents being displaced by the construction. She asked if they will build the
perimeter wall prior to developing to try to help alleviate the problem of the rodents scattering to the
surrounding homes.
Mr. Buller stated that problem arises every time there is an in-fill project because the rodents scatter
when land is disturbed. He said there are things to take care of rodents.
Ms. Chase said they get an increase whenever weed abatement takes place. She felt if the walls
are built first it will help deter some of the impact.
John Fowler, 13205 Catalpa Street, stated there is an old-growth Eucalyptus tree at the corner of his
property. He reported that many of the trees were destroyed by fire in 1994 or 1995. He said they
have nurtured the tree and brought it back to health and he asked if that tree could be saved. He
hoped they would be able to save as many as possible of the old-growth trees. Regarding the horse
trails, he asked if it would be possible to have access from their neighborhood to the trails so that
children could use the trails to go back and forth to school or neighboring houses to avoid having to
use streets. He said a lot more people ride bikes than horses and he felt it would be good to have a
trail to share. He felt people could even ride bikes to work.
Mr. Brose stated they plan to remove and replace the block walls surrounding the existing homes to
the south and east prior to starting grading of the tract. With respect to access to the trails from the
existing homes, he said they would be willing to implement a gate system into the trails if the City will
approve.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Mr. Buller stated there are three levels of designated trails in the City: Regional, Community, and
local. He said the Regional trails are open to residents of Rancho Cucamonga as well as anyone
within the region. He stated that Community trails are publicly owned and publicly maintained. He
indicated there is a Community trail in the project that runs down the center of the project along
Highland Avenue.
Ms. Meier also stated this project's Community trail ties into the Community trail that runs along
Etiwanda Avenue north of the freeway and south behind the homes on the west side of Etiwanda
Avenue.
Mr. Buller said the Community trail that bisects the project will be a community trail open to the
general public. He indicated that there will be local trails within the project to allow anyone who
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keeps horses on the property to gain access to the Community trail. He said there are requirements
to keep the trails open and there is a standard for fencing or gating the trails. He noted they are
private trails that can be used by people in the neighborhood and they can be used for pedestrian
' purposes. Regarding connection to Pecan Avenue or Catalpa Street, he stated the City Engineer
has indicated the streets do not have to go through even though they were originally designed to go
through. He explained that from the standpoint of Police, Fire, and public safety issues, it is always
better to have more points of ingress and egress than less. Mr. Buller said it has been the policy of
the Planning Commission and City Council to require every neighborhood to have at least two points
of ingress and egress and he noted this project will block off three points of potential ingress and
egress for the Pecan Street neighborhood. He said it is a process by which the City has considered
the issues raised by the neighborhood regarding traffic and security. He pointed out the condition
currently reads that the portion of Pecan Avenue north of Vista will be vacated and a curb will be
placed along the north curb face of Vista with the property to be offered to the two adjacent property
owners. He said the asphalt would be removed at that time. He stated the Eucalyptus trees north of
Catalpa are not a part of this project.
Ms. Meier stated there are some trees along the property line. She felt there may be some instances
where the developer may want to work with individual property owners for individual tree
preservation. She felt the tree Mr. Fowler referred to would be a good candidate for preservation.
Mr. Buller suggested that Noise Environmental Mitigation Condition 1 be modified to require noise
barriers a minimum 8 feet in height. With respect to Commissioner Stewart's comment that staff
should review the written report regarding the noise study prior to Planning Commission action, Mr.
Buller indicated that both consultants had indicated the walls be up to 8 feet and he thought
changing the requirement to an 8-foot wall should be sufficient. He suggested the Commission could
also add a caveat that the Noise barriers are subject to City Planner review and approval. He
reported the consultant hired to do the peer review is the same one the City hired to do all the
freeway peer review sound studies.
Commissioner Mannerino asked if a condition should also be added to require the 200-foot extension
of the wall to the east and west.
Ms. Meier suggested a sentence be added to that effect.
Mr. Buller said that staff supported moving forward with the recommended changes.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Mannerino to issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the
resolution to approve Tentative Tract Map SUBTT16279 with the modifications recommended by
staff.
Ms. Meier suggested that Planning Condition 4 be expanded to indicate the applicant should
coordinate with property owners along the project boundary with respect to trees.
Mr. Buller suggested that the Commission may wish to condition the developer to disclose the
purpose of trails to homebuyers. He said there had been problems in the Belmont Estates, where
the homebuyers forgot they bought into an equestrian neighborhood.
Commissioner Mannerino felt that was an excellent idea.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred
Commissioner Mannerino thought the City Council should consider passing an ordinance to require it
on all designated equestrian properties.
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Mr. Buller said the purpose would be to disclose what the trails are and the regulations governing
them.
Chairman McNiel felt it would be a great legal position clarifier. He noted that when buying a house,
there so many papers that people may not recall what is said, but he said it would at least clarify it
from a legal standpoint. He supported the idea.
Commissioner Stewart agreed. She felt it may go a long way to help resolve some of the issues.
She said that inasmuch as staff was fairly comfortable with the status of the noise study, Mr. Brose
seemed willing to accept the conditions even though he seemed unaware of some of the conditions
when he came to the microphone, and the community seemed comfortable with the Pecan closure,
she was willing to support the motion so long as staff can act accordingly if anything negative comes
back with the noise study. •
Chairman McNiel stated he did not want the closing of Pecan to become a precedent setting
situation. He believed it is important to have more means of ingress and egress from a public safety
standpoint; and unfortunately the closure is being driven by a community that is not community
minded.
Commissioner Tolstoy amended his motion to include the latest modifications suggested by Ms.
Meier and Mr. Buller.
Commissioner Mannerino amended his second as well. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MANNERINO, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MACIAS - carried
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Vone Dempsey, 13067 Larrera Street, Rancho Cucamonga, asked when Pecan Avenue will be fixed
since no sewer or water lines will run down it.
Joe Stofa stated that water coming down Pecan Avenue will be picked up at Victoria Street and
carried over to the storm drain system.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no additional Commission business
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Stewart, carried 4-0-1 (Macias absent),to adjourn. The
Planning Commission adjourned at 8:21 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
B uller '
Secretary
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