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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
May 22, 2002
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho
Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Pam Stewart, Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: John Mannerino
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, Ralph Crane, Fire
Marshal; Kevin Ennis, Assistant City Attorney; Tom Grahn, Associate
Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, Brent Le Count, Associate
Planner, Warren Morelion, Assistant Planner, Gail Sanchez, Planning
Commission Secretary; Michael Smith, Planning Technician
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Macias, seconded by Stewart, carried 3-0-1-1 (Mannerino absent, Tolstoy
abstain), to approve the minutes of May 8, 2002.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DRC2001-00714-REGENT
COMMUNITIES, LTD-The development of two industrial buildings totaling 45,721 square feet
on 2.95 acres of land in the Industrial Park District(Subarea 7), located at the southeast corner
of White Oak Avenue and Elm Avenue-APN: 208-352-42. Related Files: Preliminary Review
DRC2001-00427 and Tentative Parcel Map SUBTPM15731. Staff has prepared a Negative
Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration.
Chairman McNiel indicated that Item A would be pulled and heard in conjunction with Item B.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP SUBTPM15731 -REGENT COMMUNITIES,LTD-The subdivision of 2.95
acres of land into two parcels in the Industrial Park District(Subarea 7), located at the southeast
corner of White Oak Avenue and Elm Avenue -APN: 208-352-42. Related Files: Preliminary
Review DRC2001-00427 and Development Review DRC2001-00714.
Warren Morelion, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Kwan Kim, RZK, Inc. 17772 East 17th Street, Suite 104, Tustin, stated he is the architect for the
building.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if there is any spandrel.
Mr. Kim indicated there is in some portions of the building where the is concrete behind.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Macias, to issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the
resolutions approving Development Review DRC2001-00714 and Tentative Parcel Map
SUBTPM15731. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MANNERINO - carried
C. STREET NAME CHANGE DRC2002-00300-CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA-A proposal to
change the name of Miller Avenue to"Church Street"for that portion of Miller Avenue between
the current eastemmost terminus of Church Street and the east boundary of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga (intersection of Miller Avenue and East Avenue). This application has been filed
pursuant to provision of Planning Commission Resolution No. 90-57 and in conformance with
City Code Section 12.12.050.
Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and said the City received some
correspondence from homeowners who live on Miller Avenue and are opposed to the name change
because they feel it will be a burden to them. He said that Fire Marshal Ralph Crane was available
to address fire safety issues.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
John Solberg, 13231 Miller Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he has lived on Miller Avenue for27
years. He said when he moved there it was only a one-lane street that extended from East Avenue
to Etiwanda Avenue and had about 11 residents. He stated the residents found out in 1990 that the
Planning Commission intended to change the name of the street because a new street sign was
placed at the intersection with Etiwanda Avenue, changing the name to Church Street. He reported
they contacted the City and everyone on the street signed a petition protesting the name change. He
-said-when they-contacted the City,-they weretold-it was a mistake and-it would not happen again.
He stated he recently had a meeting with Mr. Le Count and officials from the Fire and Police
departments when he found out the name will be changed. He observed that the public safety
people said they cannot save people's lives when two streets intersect and have different names.
He indicated he questioned the public safety officials and found out most of the vehicles have ground
positioning satellite (GPS)computer units in their vehicles so they use coordinates instead of street
names and numbers to find out where they are going. He said they stated at the meeting that they
do not need street names and numbers because they are using ground positioning satellite
information to get to where they have to go. He noted that when the area was under the County,
streets were north, south, east, and west with square comers but now the streets seem to meander
all over. He stated the safety people said it is much safer to have square corners with north-south-
east-west. He said that Church Street looks like a French curve that has gone crazy and Church
Street did not originally line up with Miller Avenue. He stated he was bothered by the City saying the
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name must be changed for safety when the streets don't have to be straight for safety. He said he
sent in one of the letters before the Commissioners in which he raised issues about the Post Office
and said the name change will upset and disturb their life because you can't predict who will send
you a letter three years from now and it won't be delivered because there will be no Miller Avenue.
He reported he talked with Bob Dutton, who said it is not necessary to run the streets together;they
could be offset where they meet Etiwanda Avenue because no dirt has been moved as yet. Mr.
Solberg said there is an opportunity to plan not to disrupt the lives of twelve resident families on
Miller Avenue. He stated the City has had that opportunity for twelve years but has neglected it. He
did not understand why the City has done nothing to prevent this from happening since the City knew
12 years ago that it would be disruptive to citizens of Rancho Cucamonga.
Ralph Crane, Fire Marshal, Rancho Cucamonga Fire Protection District, stated the City is looking at
a safety issue that is at odds with existing street names and feelings of residents. He said the Fire
District believes long term planning dictates the logical response alignments anytime there is an
opportunity. He observed that safety personnel can respond more intuitively, faster,'and easier if the
streets are named consistently. He said that agencies from other entities are more prone to faster
response when the street alignment, naming, and numbering are done in a logical manner. He
stated the renaming is logical and benefits response planning. With regard to Mr. Solberg's
comment that emergency personnel respond to GPS coordinates, Mr. Crane said that is definitely
not the case. He explained they are dispatched to addresses and respond to addresses. He said
they follow a numbering sequencing in the addresses. He noted they use the GPS when they are on
location for taking an X-Y coordinate and calling that in for spotting things, particularly when air
rescue is used.
Commissioner Stewart thanked Mr. Crane for responding to the GPS comment because she knew
that emergency personnel respond to addresses and streets, not to GPS coordinates.
Mr. Crane said that is certainly true at this time, although it may happen in the future.
Commissioner Tolstoy believed that people calling in would have to give the GPS coordinate if the
emergency personnel were going to respond to a coordinate.
Mr. Crane confirmed that was correct.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he has lived in the City for many years and knows his street and
address, but does not know his coordinates.
Mr. Crane stated the Fire District supports wholeheartedly supports GIS technology but people would
have to call in the coordinates in order for them to be able to respond to coordinates.
Chairman McNiel asked how long the alignment of Church Street with Miller Avenue has been
planned.
Mr. Le Count responded it has been in the plans since the City was formed, and it was in the original
General Plan.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that when the first General Plan was written, an effort was made to
connect fragmented streets and name them so that Police and Fire personnel would not be
confused.
Mr. Solberg observed that a comment was made that the City needs to coordinate with nearby
responding agencies, such as Fontana, Upland, and Ontario. He stated that Miller Avenue is Miller
Avenue in Fontana; therefore, it would be better to leave the name Miller Avenue. He said he may
have misunderstood the comments made at the meeting regarding GPS, but he felt that the
dispatcher would have the ability to let the emergency personnel know what the coordinates are.
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Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy thought that the City notifies agencies in other cities when street names are
changed.
Mr. Le Count responded affirmatively. He reported that Fontana and the Post Office were both
notified of tonight's meeting. He stated Fontana was also notified when the Commission approved
the Resolution of Intent to change the name back in 1990 and there are responses in the file
supporting the change. He said it is staffs understanding that it makes more sense to have a street
name change at a City boundary than along a street within a given City.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that a similar situation was encountered at the southern boundary of
the City where Turner Avenue was changed to Hermosa Avenue.
Commissioner Tolstoy observed that lomosa was also changed to Hermosa.
Chairman McNiel stated that he worked for a company in Upland not far from where the street name
changes from Moreno Avenue to 7th Street at Benson Avenue. He said they were constantly having
people get lost trying to get there.
Motion: Moved by Macias, seconded by Stewart, to adopt the resolution approving Street Name
Change DRC2002-00300. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MANNERINO - carried
Chairman McNiel stated he did not know how soon the emergency service providers will be in a
position to use GPS to identify an exact location where a problem occurs.
Mr. Buller asked Mr. Le Count to indicate when the street name change will be effective and what
type of notice would be given to the property owners.
Mr. Le Count replied it would become effective when the streets actually connect,which is expected
within 1 to 11/2 year. Mr. Le Count indicated it would be a minimum of 60 days.
Mr. Buller stated that the City will give sufficient notice to the residents on Miller Avenue so they will
have plenty of time to change their address.
D. STREET NAME CHANGE DRC2002-00338 — CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - The
proposed renaming of Klusman Avenue to Tolstoy Ranch Road for that existing portion of
Klusman Avenue at the westerly end of Whirlaway Street, located north of Hillside Road and
west of Archibald Avenue.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated he would abstain from voting on the matter.
Tom Grahn, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Stewart asked if staff had heard from the resident on the street.
Mr. Grahn responded negatively. He said the developer to the south supports the name change.
Motion: Moved by Macias, seconded by Stewart, to adopt the resolution approving Street Name
Change DRC2002-00339. Motion carried by the following vote:
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AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MANNERINO
ABSTAIN TOLSTOY - carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
E. DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA — A request to
initiate an amendment to delete Mission Park Drive between Buffalo Avenue and Charles Smith
Avenue in the Industrial Park and General Industrial Districts(Subareas 12 and 13,respectively)
-APN: 209-263-68. Related File: Development Review DRC2001-00718.
Warren Morelion, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Stewart asked for clarification of the Improvement Certificate referenced in Mr.
Eagle's letter.
Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that when the property subdivided at the time AutoNation
was developed, no public improvements were initiated; however the street was shown on the
General Plan and on the Development Code plan and concerns were raised by property owners in
the area. He stated language was therefore added to the Improvement Certificate of the Parcel Map
indicating the street was to be constructed as provided in the Development Code or any amendment
with further development. He observed that the project applicant is therefore now asking to amend
the Development Code to delete the street,which would mean they would be developing consistent
with the Development Code but would not have to provide the street.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Chuck Bouquet, Charles Joseph Associates, 10681 Foothill Boulevard, Suite 395, Rancho
Cucamonga, stated he was involved at the time of the Improvement Certificate. He said he then
represented property owners on Charles Smith Avenue. He stated that early circulation plans for the
City provided for Charles Smith Avenue to go down to a cul-de-sac just north of 4th Street. He
stated the property owners were not too concerned because of that plus there was also another
street shown connecting through to Buffalo Avenue. He stated that when AutoNation came through
the City was supportive of AutoNation and allowed the cul-de-sac farther north than originally
intended and that concemed the property owners on Charles Smith Avenue leading to the addition of
the Improvement Certificate. He said Cardlock bought their property as a result of the Improvement
Certificate being placed on Parcel 3 because Cardlock's business is designed for trucks and other
commercial vehicles to come in and fuel up. He said that Oltman's was also processing a project
with two large buildings when Automation was processed. He stated he represented a client who
was losing about 300 of street frontage. He said they met with the City Engineer and negotiated the
Improvement Certificate, to require a street connection from Charles Smith Avenue through to
Buffalo Avenue. He said his clients at the time believed that a street would be constructed when
development occurred. He stated he appreciated staffs comment that the Code could be amended,
but observed his clients were not engineers and believed they would be getting a street. He
suggested that the street be moved south of the proposed building to tie into the Mission Park area
across the way and still provide the promised connection to Charles Smith Avenue. He said the
property owners on Charles Smith feel deletion of the street will leave them landlocked and the use
of their property will be inhibited and restricted.
Basil Johnson, Oltman's Construction Company, 20 East Pamela Road, Arcadia, stated that the
properties will not be landlocked. He said it was his understanding that the City abandoned the idea
of having Charles Smith Avenue tie into 4th Street because it is too close to the freeway and would
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be dangerous. He stated they wanted the cul-de-sac to go south 900 feet but the Fire Marshal would
only allow 600 feet. He said they improved Charles Smith Avenue and put in the storm drainage to
feed into the CalTrans channel under the freeway and he said they will have to improve the balance
of Charles Smith Avenue on the east side with development of the new building,whereas typically a
property owner only improves to the centerline. He observed that Oltman's will be spending close to
$500,000 for the storm drain system. He felt the people on the east side of the street should have
split the cost with them but they haven't and Oltman's did not ask them to; therefore, he felt the other
property owners are getting a free ride. He said they submitted plans to the City for initial planning
review and were given only two items to take care of: 1) to provide a fly report and 2) conduct a
traffic study to be sure there is no over usage of any intersections. He said when the full application
was submitted, Engineering advised them they would have to amend the Code to delete the street
and Engineering staff indicated there should not be any problem because it was a street extension
that was drawn on the map many years ago and wasn't needed. He said they were so confident it
would not be a problem, that they had the design team go ahead with working drawings and design
work costing approximately $200,000 has already been done. He stated having a street along the
south end of the property would not benefit his company at all and would probably cost at least
$800,000 to construct. He noted it would also reduce the size of their proposed 450,000 square foot
building by at least 90,000 square feet and would not meet the needs of to the adjacent tenants to
the north. He said the tenants need the whole 450,000 square feet to combine with the other
buildings to the north to centralize their operation. He did not feel the street is a necessity.
Chairman McNiel asked the distance from San Marino Drive to their northern property line and the
depth of their property.
Mr. Johnson estimated the distance to their northern property line to be approximately 500 feet and
the depth to be about 800—900 feet.
Dawn Wilson, RBF Consulting, 5050 Avenida Encinas, Carlsbad, stated they prepared the traffic
analysis. She said their main point was that in 2020, San Marino Drive will be below capacity;
therefore it was unlikely that additional roadway trips would be diverted to the Mission Park Road.
She said the analysis also showed that all the intersections will operate at acceptable levels of
service and an additional intersection would not benefit the City.
There were no additional public comments.
Chairman McNiel stated the distance from San Marino Drive to where the originally proposed street
would be approximately 850 feet. He did not think there are many streets that close together in that
area. He did not believe the deletion of this portion of Mission Park Drive would appreciably impact
any existing or future developments on Charles Smith Drive because of the close proximity of San
Marino Drive. He felt traffic would go up Buffalo Avenue from 4th Street to get there.
Motion: Moved by Stewart, seconded by Macias, to direct staff to process an amendment to the
Development Code upon submission of an application and fees by the project developer. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MANNERINO - - — - carried
F. CONSIDERATION OF SUBAREA 18 SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT — CHARLES JOSEPH
ASSOCIATES—A request to initiate an amendment to allow senior housing as a permitted use
within Planning Area VIII of the Empire Lakes project.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report.
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Chairman McNiel invited public comments.
Chuck Bouquet, Charles Joseph Associates, 10681 Foothill Boulevard, Suite 395, Rancho
Cucamonga, concurred with the staff report. He said the applicant is not proposing congregate care,
but rather a project for active seniors. He indicated they want senior housing, not multi-family. He
stated Tony Ferrero , Senior Vice President of Kisco was in the audience.
There were no additional public comments.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he had originally been against having residential uses in the area next
to the industrial area but he saw no reason not to allow this use since the area has been changed.
Chairman McNiel felt that the development that has occurred in the area is nice. He thought that
more housing will be needed for seniors as the population is aging and he therefore felt this makes
sense because it is dose to shopping, activities, and the Metrolink.
Motion: Moved by Stewart, seconded by Macias, to direct staff to process an amendment to
Subarea 18 upon submission of an application and fees by the project developer. Motion carried by
the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MANNERINO - carried
PUBLIC COMMENTS
John Solberg, 13231 Miller Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was wondering if the Planning
Commission had an opportunity to read any of the letters that were sent to them before the meeting
and asked why there was a public meeting if the Commissioners had not had an opportunity to read
the letters.
Chairman McNiel responded that the Commissioners had read the letters.
Mr. Solberg asked for confirmation that they were read before the meeting.
Chairman McNiel confirmed they were.
Mr. Solberg said he heard a comment in the introduction that the Commissioners had a copy of the
letters in front of them. He didn't think they had been there long enough to be read.
Chairman McNiel said they were included in the packet. He said the first response to Mr. Solberg's
home in the event of an emergency will be from Rancho Cucamonga, not Fontana, and he felt the
name change makes perfect sense in the interest of Mr. Solberg's safety as opposed to being in the
interest of Mr. Solberg's convenience.
Mr. Solberg said he noted in his letter that all public safety personnel get daily briefings and he was
sure those daily briefings address any anomalies in how they go about their business. He thought
the safety officials in this community have less need to know that the street is the same name than
anybody else who uses it. He felt that the dispatchers tell them if a street changes names.
Chairman McNiel noted that the Planning Commission's decision can be appealed to the City
Council.
Mr. Solberg responded that there would be an appeal.
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Chairman McNiel stated that was fine and he was just letting Mr. Solberg there is due process.
Mr. Solberg stated he felt the Commission's decision appeared to be a rubber stamp.
Chairman McNiel said Mr. Solberg was aware that the name change would be coming for the last 12
years.
Mr. Solberg said he thought it had been taken care of 12 years ago.
Commissioner Tolstoy commented he was in on the first General Plan meetings and there was much
public input. He stated he led one group and one of the main things they said was that they wanted
name consistency for the streets. He thought the City dedicated itself to that end when the first
General Plan was adopted. He observed that the Planning Commission also has to look out for
public welfare and safety and he felt the name change honors that charge.
Mr. Buller gave Mr. Solberg a copy of his staff report so he could see what was included.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
As a follow up to a question asked at the previous Planning Commission meeting, Brad Buller, City
Planner, provided charts showing 5 years of City activity with regards to abating graffiti.
Chairman McNiel felt the abatement numbers show the City is being effective in terms of abating
graffiti, as the City is not as active as it once was.
Mr. Buller confirmed that 2000-2001 was the highest year of activity and 1999-2000 was the second
highest. He stated that Rancho Cucamonga takes a great deal of effort and devotes a lot of man-
hours into keeping the problem under control.
Chairman McNiel felt the problem is improving. He observed that he attended the City Yard open
house and was told that the City used to have two full time crews, but it has been cut back to only
one.
Commissioner Macias asked the City's policy with respect to the colorful paper racks that are starting
to show up at every corner of the City.
Mr. Buller responded the racks are within the public right-of-way and rules and regulations have been
adopted for dealing with them, but it is still necessary to adopt a system to handle the abatement.
He said there is a question as to whether enforcement will fall to Engineering, Code Enforcement,or
Public Works. He noted the Ordinance calls for a standardized news rack to go in the public right-of-
way and a standardized news rack has not yet been developed. He observed a lot of the news racks
are occurring along Foothill Boulevard and the Visual Improvement Program for Route 66 may call
for the City to provide racks for those types of services. He said that staff believes that if they begin
to immediately police the placement, the racks will just be moved onto private property right behind
the right-of-way, which would then entail Code Enforcement activity through shopping centers that
allow them.
Commissioner Macias stated that generally the publications are not being taken. He observed there
are six different colored ones in front of Mimi's restaurant.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed they are an eyesore.
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Mr. Buller said he would forward the comments on to the other department heads,who will have to
collectively address the concern.
' ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Stewart, seconded by Macias, carried 4-0-1 (Mannerino absent),to adjourn. The
Planning Commission adjourned at 8:06 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
• uller
Secretary
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