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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000/10/11 - Workshop Minutes - PC-HPC CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
October 11, 2000
Chairman McNiel called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission to order at 8:15 p.m. The meeting was moved from the Council Chamber to the Rains
Room at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga,
California.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Rich Macias, John Mannerino, Larry McNiel, Pam Stewart,
Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Laura Bonaccorsi, Associate Park Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy
Fong, Senior Planner; Joe Stofa, Associate Engineer
NEW BUSINESS
' A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 98-01
AND ETIWANDA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 98-01 — AMERICAN BEAUTY
DEVELOPMENT CO. —An overview of the land use and village concept for a proposed project
known as the Victoria Arbors Village on approximately 420 acres in the Victoria Community
Plan and the Etiwanda Specific Plan area, generally bounded by Base Line Road to the north,
Day Creek Channel to the west, Etiwanda Avenue to the east, and Foothill Boulevard to the
south—APN: 227-201-04, 13 through 18,22, 28 through 31, 33, and 36; 227-161-28, 31, 33,
35, 36, and 38; 227-171--08, 11, 12, 20, 22, 23, and 25; and 227-211- 40.
Brad Buller, City Planner, gave an overview of the purpose of the workshop.
Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
John Morrisette, American Beauty Development Co., explained to the Commission the different
levels of entitlements that they hoped to achieve. He then turned it over to Bob Lacoss for a design
presentation.
Bob Lacoss, PDS West, described the village concept to the Commission.
Chairman McNiel opened the meeting for discussion.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked how the grades are taken up by the project. He also asked whether
the wetland could be eliminated.
Mr. Morrisette responded that the grading issue was still not resolved and will be addressed with the
submission of the Tentative Maps. He also noted that the Corps of Engineer may consider removal
if it could be demonstrated that avoidance of removing the wetland was found to be impractical.
Commissioner Tolstoy thought the wetland might not be good for the neighborhood. He also felt
there should be a trail along Church Street.
Mr. Buller stated that one aspect of the workshop was to look at the imagery of product types
prepared by the applicant and provide feedback. He said another aspect was to look at the central
spine street and the winery buffer and maintenance issues of the open space elements as proposed.
Joey Filippi, Filippi Winery, indicated that he agreed with the winery buffering shown on the concept
and how it connects with the central spine street.
Commissioner Macias responded that the maintenance of the vineyards within the winery buffering
area must be practical for the City. He suggested that the City, the applicant, and Filippi Winery work
together to balance the need for buffering and the maintenance cost.
Commissioner Mannerino believed that vineyards around the winery were appropriate but was
against having vineyards along the paseos of the central spine street.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed that vineyards should not be within the paseos of the central spine
street and that the City should not have to maintain vineyards in any park setting.
Chairman McNiel agreed.
Mr. Buller then requested discussion on residential uses.
Commissioner Mannerino stated that he would like to see the central spine street straight. He
indicated that the proposed Mixed Use must include a definition of the uses allowed. He said he
would like to see that the paseo along the central spine street tell the winery stories. He thought that
Church Street should connect to Etiwanda Avenue.
Commissioner Stewart agreed with Commissioner Mannerino regarding the opportunity to tell the
history of wine making along the central spine street. She stated that the pictures and the imageries
of the housing products must be real in terms of the level of architectural elements and details
provided to the products. She stressed the need for sufficient parking to be provided for people to
visit the paseos along the spine street.
Commissioner Macias expressed the need for quality of amenities within the village and the need to
preserve the winery. He agreed with the comments made by Commissioners Mannerino and
Stewart.
Chairman McNiel expressed his concerns with small lots (5 to 6,000 square feet) and the garage-
scape that typically come with that size of lots. He suggested that the residential village should look
at innovative lot design such as wide and shallow lots. He reminded the applicant that the village
must have an up-scale design to it.
The Consensus of the Commission was to review additional information on lots and housing
products at the October 25 meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
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ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brrr, Iler
Secretary
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