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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
June 23, 1999
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission to order at 7:02 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho
Cucamenga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Rich Macias, John Mannerino, Larry McNiel, Pam Stewart,
Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Bullet, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Michael Estrada,
Deputy City Attorney; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil
Engineer; Brent Le Count, Associate Planner; Gall Sanchez, Planning
Commission Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Mannedno, seconded by Macias, carried 5-0, to approve the minutes of June
9, 1999.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 99-17 - STEVEN WALKER HOMES - The design review of
detailed site plan and elevations for previously recorded Tract 14509, an 18-1et subdivision
on 3.84 acres of land in the Low Residential district (2 to 4 dwelling units per acre), located
on the east side of Hermosa Avenue between Wilson Avenue and Banyan Street - APN: 201-
183-01.
Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Charles Frase, Steven Walker Homes, 7161 Indiana Avenue, Riverside, indicated he was present.
Debra Flores, 10121 Kernwood Court, Rancho Cucamonga, indicated she lives directly to the
north of the project. She stated they had been notified of the neighborhood meeting that was held
the previous week by an illegal notice which was placed in her mailbox. She observed that the
previous approval included some single story homes but they had now all been changed to two-
story. She thought the new homes will be approximately 20 percent larger than other houses in
the area. She said that current houses average 2,200 square feet and the new houses average
2,700 square feet. She remarked that when she had appeared before the Planning Commission
in the past, she had been told that it is customary to have single story houses on comer lots. She
felt the notice regarding the neighborhood meeting had been deceptive because it did not indicate
the house plans had changed. She said she went to the neighborhood meeting expecting to hear
when they would start grading and the developer started grading the following day without permits.
She stated the developer had not watered the area and it was very dusty. She said the developer
later staged the water truck immediately behind her house. She thought the developer has put
a tremendous amount of money into grading the property without permits. She asked if the City
has now given permits. She commented that the previous plans allowed view corridors between
the homes because the homes were not as large and there were some single stor7 homes, but
she thought there will no longer be any view corridors because the houses are too large.
Brian McNair, 10111 Kernwood Court, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had recentIy moved to the
area. He indicated that when he questioned the real estate agent as to what would be built south
of their house, he was told it would be a single story house. He thought the neighbors were not
given proper notice and the notice regarding the neighborhood meeting was deceptive. He felt
his view is worth a lot and stated that original homeowners had paid a $10,000 premium for view
lots. He thought plans call for a retaining wall with wrought iron on top to the south of his property
and asked that the wall be brick with no wrought iron to blend in with the majority of the walls in
the area. He feared he will be staring at trees in 5 years instead of a view.
James Fean, 10131 Kernwood Court, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had been sent plans about
10 months ago and he has since built a back porch. He indicated he will be looking right into his
neighbor's master bedroom. He said he had not received notice of a neighborhood meeting and
asked to get plans from the City.
Staci Lee, 10111 Kernwood Court, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she lives on a cul-de-sac. She
indicated she originally had a single story home plotted behind hers. She said she paid $15,000
for a view lot 10 years ago. She felt the currently proposed houses will appear too large as people
drive up Hermosa Avenue and will look out of place because they will be larger than existing ones.
Mr. Frase asserted they complied with postal regulations and placed the flyers on mailboxes and
on front doors. He said the flyers explained there would be exciting new changes to the previously
approved project. He stated they have not changed anything other than the floor plans. He
commented they tried to plot large yards between the houses. He explained they now have the
water tank immediately behind the existing homes while they grade the other side of the project
and they will move the water tank to the other side when that is possible. He pointed out that the
wrought iron fence is a condition of approval
Brad Buller, City Planner, clarified that Standard Condition C.6 calls for 6-foot decorative block
walls along the project perimeter and asks the developer to make a good faith effort to work with
adjoining property owners to avoid having a double wall. He did note that there is a large grade
differential between the lots.
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Mr. Le Count observed that there is a 15-16 foot grade difference between the proposed project
and the existing homes to the north. He stated that the roof line lines up with the second floor of
the existing homes. He reported that the City requires slope planting of vegetation for erosion
purposes. He indicated that the new homeowners have the right to plant what they wish on their
own property and acknowledged that trees may block views.
Chairman McNiel remarked that real estate developers sell view properties as an advantage but
there are no laws to protect existing views. He stated that some wasteland will never be
developed but otherwise, those people who want to preserve a view have the option of purchasing
the property that may obstruct their view when developed.
Mr. Bullet pointed out that a Development Review of the plans does not require a public hearing.
He said the City encourages developers to hold a neighborhood meeting to discuss the plans but
it is not a legal requirement.
Commissioner Mannerino commented that he and Commissioner Stewart served on the Design
Review Committee when it reviewed the plans. He said the Commission had requested some
changes and the developer responded by changing the plans. He stated he had seen a copy of
the notice the developer provided regarding the neighborhood meeting and he did not feel it was
deceptive. He saw no legal reason to deny the project.
Commissioner Stewart did not feel there was that great of a difference in the sizes of the proposed
houses as compared to existing houses. She also did not see a legal reason to deny the project.
Commissioner Macias indicated the matter had been discussed several months ago dudng a
hearing for the time extension request. He felt the arguments had not changed and he saw no
significant changes to require reopening the CEQA process. He thought the City has to continue
to tell people that when they buy a view lot they can't expect the view to remain indefinitely. He
thought the developer had gone forward in an attempt to meet with the neighbors.
Commissioner Tolstoy found nothing deceptive in the notice regarding the neighborhood meeting.
He commented that no view is guaranteed. He observed that there is a large grade differential
between the existing homes and the new tract and he felt the existing homes will still have a view.
Chairman McNiel stated he would like to ensure that dust control measures are in place to contain
the dust.
Mr. Bullet remarked that at the neighborhood meeting, the developer had given Mrs. Flores the
name and telephone number of each person to contact if there are problems. He suggested that
the developer make those numbers available to all neighbors.
Mr. Frase indicated he would be happy to provide the neighbors with a typed listing of contacts.
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Macias, to adopt the resolution approving.
Development Review 99-17. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MANNERINO, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NQNE
ABSENT: NONE - carried
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B. SIGN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 99-01 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - An
amendment to add provisions restricting the filing of the same or a similar application within
a one-year period and to require an 8-inch minimum letter height for sign copy on monument
signs.
Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public headng. Headng no testimony, he closed it.
Motion: Moved by Mannedno, seconded by Stewart, to adopt the resolution recommending
approval of Sign Ordinance Amendment 99-01. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MANNERINO, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE - carried
NEW BUSINESS
C. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 99-21 - MASl COMMERCE CENTER PARTNERS - The design
review of the detailed site plan and elevations for three buildings totaling 69,354 square feet
within the Masi Plaza, a previously approved, mixed use development master plan, in the
Industrial Park District, Subarea 7, of the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located at the
northeast comer of Masi Drive and Sebastian Way - APN: 229-011-45, 46, 50 and 61.
Commissioner Mannedno recused himself because of a business relationship with the Masi family.
Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and provided a revised resolution deleting
some conditions which had already been met or designed into the plans.
Chairman McNiel asked why the conditions were being changed.
Ms, Fong replied that the applicant had not submitted plans in time for them to be reviewed prior
to distribution of the staff report but that staff had now had an opportunity to review them and is
pleased with the plans.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Jack Masi, Masi Commerce Partners, 11871 Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga, requested
approval, He said they had met with staff and resolved all the concerns.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he had been at the Design Review Committee meeting when the
plans were to be approved and the plans had not been available for review prior to the meeting.
He felt it is important for each developer to turn in their plans to staff ahead of time so that staff
and the Commission can review the plans in advance. He stated that if that should happen again
when he is on the Design Review Committee, he would not look at the plans at the meeting and
would request the matter be continued to a future Committee meeting because it is extremely
difficult to first review the plans at the meeting.
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Chairman McNiel stated he did not disagree with Commissioner Tolstoy. He felt it should be
policy.
Steve Orme, Senior Real Estate Asset Manager, 7918 Anbusto Court, Cadsbad, stated he was
speaking on behalf of 24-Hour Fitness. He said the facility is intended to be one of their premier
clubs. He described the proposed programs.
There were no further public comments.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Stewart, to adopt the resolution approving Development
Review 99-21 as modified by staff. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: MANNERINO - carried
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
D. TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS
Chairman McNiel commented that his term had expired and he could no longer attend the
meetings because of scheduling conflicts.
Commissioner Stewart volunteered to serve.
Chairman McNiel appointed Commissioner Stewart to the Traits Advisory Committee.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested the Planning Commission may wish to discuss the field tdp
held just pdor to tonight's Planning Commission meeting to visit various areas of the City. He
indicated there will be more pad buildings coming in along Foothill Boulevard.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that would not be a problem so long as the pad buildings conform to
the architecture of the center.
Mr. Bullet requested that the Commissioners inform staff if they observed anything going in they
do not like. He commented the Commission had also viewed some residential tracts and it
became apparent that more attention needs to be paid to Etiwanda Specific Plan architecture
guidelines.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if one of the projects will have curb-adjacent sidewalks.
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Dan Coleman, Principal Ptanner, stated that Tract 15711 was approved with parkway sidewalks,
but it is now in plan check with curb-adjacent sidewalks and staff would be bringing the request
to the Commission.
Commissioner Tolstoy did not see a need to have curb-adjacent sidewalks in that type of a
neighborhood.
Commissioner Mannedno felt that some of the areas with more affordable housing stock that is
8 to 10 years old are beginning to look shabby. He thought it important to look at matedal
durability.
Chairman McNiel agreed with Commissioner Tolstoy's eadier comments regarding plans being first
presented to staff and the Commissioners at Design Review Committee meetings. Chairman
McNiel felt the plans should be available in time for staff to review and critique them. He thought
developers sometimes take advantage and the policy should be that projects would be
automatically continued if plans are not submitted in time to allow review.
Commissioner Mannedno felt that members of the Design Review Committee could make an
exception if they feel it is warranted.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Macias, carried 5-0, to adjourn. The Planning
Commission adjourned at 8:01 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Secretary
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