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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
June 26, 1996
Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho
Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher,
ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy
STAFF PRESENT: Tricia Ashby, Planning Secretary; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner;, Ralph
Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Bill
Makshanoff, Building Official; Gall Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary;
Alan Warren, Associate Planner.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Melcher, carried 2-0-1-2 (Tolstoy absent; Barker, Lumpp
abstain) to approve the minutes of May 8, 1996.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carded 3-0-1-1 (Tolstoy absent, Melcher abstain)
to approve the minutes of May 29, 1996.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. MODIFICATION TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR PARCEL MAP 8587 - PHILLIPS -
A request to delete a condition of approval requiring the improvement of a local trail between
Parcels I and 2 and along the south boundary of Parcel 2 in the Very Low Residential District
(1-2 dwelling units per acre), located on Rancho Street, east of Mayberry Avenue -
APN: 1074-291-11 and 12.
Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker asked who was in attendance at the Trails Committee Meeting.
Dan James answered that Dan Coleman was there.
Chairman Barker then asked if there was any representation from the Alta Loma Riding Club.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, responded that he ardved after the item was concluded and
Commissioner Lumpp and Bruce Ann Hahn attended.
Chairman Barker requested that in the future, the names of attending Trails Committee Members
be included in any staff reports which include recommendations by the Committee. He observed that
different members represent different users of the trails. He opened the public hearing. There were
no public comments, and Chairman Barker closed the headng. He requested clarification regarding
trail access on adjacent parcels.
Mr. James explained that there are no trails on the adjacent parcels and there would be no trail on
this parcel either.
Chairman Barker asked whether the lots fulfill all of the other requirements for equestrian.
Mr. Coleman replied affirmatively.
Commission McNiel asked if this is the last lot to be developed.
Mr. James confirmed that it is.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution modifying conditions of
approval for Parcel Map 8587. Motion carded by the following vote:
AYES: LUMP, MELCHER, MCNIEL
NOES: BARKER
ABSENT: TOLSTOY -carried
Chairman Barker stated he did not think deletion of the trail easement is in keeping with the original
intent of establishing a trail system.
B. VARIANCI~ 96-08 - ROBERT B. LAGNESS - A request to vary the rear lot height, rear lot
building coverage, and guest house size regulations of the Etiwanda Specific Plan and
Development Code to allow for the construction of a combination residential garage and guest
house of 3,231 square feet, 26 feet high, 7 % feet from the side property line, and 5 feet from
the rear property line in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) of the Etiwanda
Specific Plan, located at 13355 Victoria Street - APN: 227-141-52.
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and photographs of the property.
Robert Lagness, 13755 Victoda Street, Rancho Cucamonga, applicant, gave a detailed presentation
of his project, the property's history, and the upgrades he has completed, including photographs.
He observed that the staff report indicates the guest house exceeds the maximum 640 square feet
because the entire 1,408 square foot second floor is considered the guest house. He said that each
room has a designated purpose, with one being a recreation room and another a storage room. He
stated that the sitting room, guest room, and bath total 406 square feet and he felt only that amount
should be considered as the guest house even though it is an open floor plan with access between
all rooms. He noted the staff report indicated the structure exceeds the 30 percent coverage limit
within the 25-foot rear lot area by only 73 square feet. He stated that the guest house will be
adjacent to a 35-acre vacant field that is owned by Mr. Kleinman and Mr. Kleinman had informed him
it is not to his advantage to develop or sell the acreage at this time because of the cost of bringing
in utilities. He felt his guest house would therefore not interfere with any views from the adjacent
property. He did not want to move the guest house closer to the main house because it would
interfere with his view and prevailing winds into his bedroom as well as cut down on the size of his
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landscaped back yard. He showed pictures of what the house and grounds looked like when he
purchased it and the improvements he has made. He acknowledged he should have approached
the City first to determine what could be done. He stated he had talked to most of his neighbors and
none of them were opposed.
Commissioner Lumpp asked about the height of the building.
Mr. Lagness replied it is 25 feet high because he wants to build a garage with a 12-foot high ceiling
as the lower floor in order to accommodate a recreational vehicle.
Commissioner Lumpp asked if the 16-foot height restriction is only in the area within 25 feet of the
rear property line.
Mr. Lagness responded that was correct. He stated he could build the structure if he moves it
forward on the lot but he felt it would be a waste to have 25 feet behind the building and complained
he would have to tear up his lawn and sprinklers.
Commissioner Lumpp observed that the Commission was then dealing with an issue of excessive
height rather than an extra 73 square feet of lot coverage.
Mr. Lagness conceded he could move the structure forward.
Chairman Barker asked what issues would remain if the structure were moved forward out of the
25-foot area.
Commissioner Lumpp asked for confirmation that the maximum size for a guest house is 640 square
feet.
Mr. Warren confirmed that was correct but said the building could be redesigned to separate the
guest house portion.
Commissioner Lumpp felt the applicant should have contacted the City before designing his plans.
He asked if the building could be turned sideways and moved forward.
Mr. Lagness replied he would have to move the building 15 feet forward and it would block his
neighbors view and would leave him a 25-foot wasted strip behind the building. He stated that the
neighbor to the west had indicated he hopes the building will be constructed because it would help
to buffer him from the future freeway.
Steve White, 13383 Victoria Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he lives on the east side. He said
he had no objections to a normal size garage but he felt a 3,200 square foot building is ridiculous.
He feared the building will block the sun to his pool and observed that it would be the only thing he
would see from his upstairs deck which faces south. He remarked he had not known the size would
be 3,200 square feet when he told Mr. Lagness he did not object. He commented that currently Mr.
Lagness' back yard looks like a construction storage yard and he would prefer the fork lifts and
welding trucks be in a building, but not such a large one. He stated that if the building is moved
forward, it will be like it is in his back yard.
Mr. Lagness commented that he was not expecting such an objection from his neighbor. He said
the building would be about 44 feet from Mr, White's property line and would not block the sun from
the pool. He said he did not think the building is a monster.
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
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Commissioner McNiel observed that many issues had been discussed this evening which seemed
to be beyond the scope of the application. He observed the additional dwelling exceeds the
standards for a guest house in several areas. Because the structure is so much larger than the 640
square foot guest house maximum, he felt the Commission almost has to view the application as
a typical house being built on a vacant lot with certain setbacks and noted the application is in
violation of those setbacks. He did not feel the Commission could make the necessary findings to
approve the application and to do so would be granting a special privilege to the applicant.
Commissioner Melcher stated he was somewhat perplexed about the argument regarding the size
of the dwelling unit. He questioned if such a large building could be placed in the back yard if the
height limit were observed, two separate entrances were provided, and the two separate use areas
were divided by a wall which was not breached by a doorway.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, confirmed that the issue is not the number of square feet on the
second floor, but rather the number of square feet in the guest quarters. He stated that there would
not be a problem if the guest house were designed differently with its own access and was not laid
out in a manner which ties it to the rest of the floor. He observed that the current floor plan requires
using the same hallway to get to the guest area and the recreation area.
Commissioner Melcher concurred that the current layout provides the capability of using the entire
area as one residential unit, even though there is no kitchen. He said he was asking if thoughtful
redesign to comply with the maximum height limit and to separate the uses would .allow for
construction. He agreed that there is no basis for granting a variance to allow the building as
presented.
Commissioner Lumpp concurred with the balance of the Commissioners. He felt the applicant could
make the building work in a way which would satisfy both he and his neighbor and comply within the
limitations of the code. He agreed that he could not make the necessary findings.
Chairman Barker commented that legally the Commission is required to make certain findings in
order to approve a variance and the Commission could not make those findings in this case. He
agreed that granting the variance would give special privilege to this applicant. He observed that
the Commission is obliged to protect the rights of the adjoining property owners. He stated staff
would be available to discuss ideas on how the applicant could build a structure that would protect
the fights of the neighbors.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, to adopt the resolution denying Variance 96-08.
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: TOLSTOY - carried
Commissioner Lumpp felt the applicant could achieve his desires within the framework of the code.
C. DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT 96-03 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A
request to amend Title 17, Chapter 17.08 of the Rancho Cucamonga Municipal Code pertaining
to the addition of property maintenance standards for landscaping.
Bill Makshanoff, Building Official, presented the staff report.
Vice Chairman McNiel questioned the interpretation of "substantial."
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Mr. Makshanoff stated that he had discussed this item with the City Attorney's office. He felt that
the term "substantial," meaning a considerable amount, was somewhat ambiguous and subjective.
. He defined "substantial" as being the majority of a yard visible from the public right of way.
Vice Chairman McNiel asked if this code amendment was enforceable.
Mr. Makshanoff responded that the City Attorney had indicated in the affirmative.
Commissioner Lumpp asked for a clarification by saying that putting in landscaping is not so much
the issue, but rather maintaining what is already there so that it doesn't cause deterioration in the
neighborhood and devalue property.
Mr. Makshanoff concurred. He further stated that the problem has been that the code has not
required landscaping to begin with so that as long as a homeowner did not let it go to weeds, they
would be in compliance.
Commissioner Melcher said that a homeowner doesn't have to landscape his yard, but if he does
landscape it, he has to maintain it under current code.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Hyman Gibson, 6830 Mango Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that he represents a group of
neighbors who had been speaking to the City on behalf of this ordinance for the last six months. He
went on to say that this group has been trying to encourage people to at least do something to their
land to maintain property values in the neighborhood. He indicated that one of the neighbors in their
area has a tendency not to care for their property and that the group of neighbors he was
representing had gotten together and offered their help, which was refused. He further stated that
when they turned to the City, they were told there was nothing that could be done. Mr. Gibson and
the neighbors he represents feel that the proposed amendment would help them to help the
neighbors and perhaps "poke" them into compliance. He further stated that the City of Rancho
Cucamonga makes a real effort to make the main streets look nice and his group would like the
same effort at the neighborhood level.
Commissioner Melcher asked if Mr. Gibson's group had worked with the City on the wording of the
ordinance.
Mr. Gibson responded affirmatively and said that the group he represents had petitioned and talked
to other neighbors regarding their concerns.
Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Melcher stated that this was particularly interesting to him due to the fact that a fellow
employee was interested in the proposed amendment. He went on to say that she and her husband
live next door to one of the situations that this ordinance is designed to combat. He disclosed that
he had taken the liberty of having her look over the amendment and believes this is a step in the
right direction. Commissioner Melcher stated that he will support the amendment.
Commissioner Lumpp asked if he had a front yard full of green weeds, would he be in =substantial"
compliance with the landscaping requirement?
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, responded that tonight's amendment would set a minimum
standard to begin discussion with neighbors and Code Enforcement. He went on to say that the City
is not looking for a law to put people in jail and that if it ever came to court it would be a difficult
matter. He indicated that it would be used in extreme situations and would be controlled by very
detailed and elaborate fads, Mr. Hanson disclosed that those issues of a "substantial" nature would
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be addressed on a case-by-case basis and to do anything other than that would be to create an
impossible bureaucracy. He concluded by saying that it would just become an annoyance for
everyone
Commissioner McNiel felt that this issue was what the California initiative process was designed for.
He supported the amendment.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, to adopt the resolution recommending approval of
Development Code Amendment 96-03.
AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: TOLSTOY -called
Chairman Barker requested that Mr. Makshanoff discuss the action taken at Eastwood Apartments
and Creekside condominiums.
Bill Makshanoff, Building Official, stated there had been a visit by a joint task force from the Police
Department, County Welfare Fraud Division, Probation Department, Building and Safety Division,
and City Code Enforcement to address concerns within those two developments. He felt the
operation was a success and reported that some of the residents expressed appreciation for the
action. He reported they found numerous violations of the Uniform Housing Code and abandoned
vehicles. He felt that having the law enforcement personnel present made a major impression on
the residents.
Chairman Barker stated there are certain neighborhoods that are in transition or in danger of being
in transition. He said some neighborhoods are getting less safe. He felt the City must be aggressive
to keep neighborhoods safe and expressed gratitude that such an aggressive action was taken
before the problems grew worse. He said the technique has been used in other cities.
Mr. Makshanoff felt the effort was successful because of Police Department coordination.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Ann Lungu, 6280 Calloway Place, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she was happy about the
Development Code Amendment. She said she had called Code Enforcement regarding weeds at
a house in her neighborhood and the weeds have now been cut and the area is getting green. She
stated she works for Diamond Bar, which has a property maintenance ordinance, and she felt it
helps.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
Commissioner Melcher stated this was his last meeting as a Planning Commissioner. He
commented he could not adequately express what a privilege it has been to serve with such a fine
staff and with so many fine, dedicated fellow Commissioners for the past six years. He said he was
leaving because he believes that life is full of oppodunities and there are a lot of capable people in
the City who deserve a shot at serving on the Commission. He indicated he also wants to do other
things, including working actively for political candidates who support planning in the City, and to
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become an independent, and hopefully constructive, critic of City policy so the City could expect to
hear from him from time to time.
Commissioner Melcher made the following comments regarding what he considered high points and
low points from his time on the Commission. He said he was very gratified by the changes that have
come about in the process of doing projects in the City. He felt it has become more fair and easier.
He stated he was pleased to be part of the process but he would not take credit for the changes.
He observed he was saddened because it has too often meant to the City Council that anything goes
in the City and he had seen that more often than he cared to think. He was pleased by the way the
design review process has matured so that there now can be an industrial building made of metal
(BHP) and a tilt-up building can be only concrete and glass (Mission Foods). He indicated he was
especially pleased that the last Design Review Committee meeting approved an extremely unusual
building (CCWD headquarters building) and he hoped it will be as fairly treated by the full
Commission. He said he was most satisfied that so many members of the staff elected to take
Planning's professional examination while he was a Commissioner and each person who attempted
it was successful in becoming an AICP and he hoped the remaining two staff members would do so
in the future. He stated there is one nagging thing left hanging over the Commission's head which
was there when he came and is still there, a big hole in the ground in Terra Vista called La Mission
Park. He felt that Lewis Homes has stalled the City regarding the construction of La Mission Park
for six years and he hoped they do not do not get another six years.
Chairman Barker asked if Commissioner Melcher would be willing to come back for presentation of
a Resolution of Commendation.
Commissioner Melcher said he would be willing to do so.
Chairman Barker said he would reserve his praise for Commissioner Melcher until that time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0 (Tolstoy absent), to adjourn.
8:21 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Dan Coleman
Acting Secretary
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