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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
September 13, 1995
Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council
Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John
Melcher
ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy
STAFF PRESENT:
Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner;
Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney;
Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil
Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Paul Rougeau,
Traffic Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary;
Alan Warren, Associate Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 93-46 - FLORES -A resolution of denial
of a request to modify the approved site plan and certain conditions of
approval for a previously approved gas station and mini-market in the
Community Commercial designation (Subarea 2) of the Foothill Boulevard
Specific Plan, located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and
Vineyard Avenue - APN 208-192-06 and 07.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, commented that a revised resolution was in front
of the Commissioners which included changes in some of the findings.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution with the
amended findings. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: TOLSTOY
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER
- carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 95-18/MODIFICATION TO
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 90-37 - PRICE COSTCO - A request to amend the original
Master Plan to provide a 5,040 square foot building or a 2,800 square foot
restaurant building on a one-acre parcel within an existing shopping center
(Foothill Marketplace) in the Regional Related Commercial designation
(Subarea 4) of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located on the south
side of Foothill Boulevard between 1-15 and Etiwanda Avenue - APN: 229-031-
35.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 14748 - PRICE COSTCO - A
subdivision of 12.32 acres of land into 2 parcels in the Regional Related
Commercial Development District, located on the south side of Foothill
Boulevard between the 1-15 Freeway and Etiwanda Avenue - APN 229-031-35.
Staff recommends issuance of a Negative Declaration. Related files:
Development Review 95-18.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and noted that a
letter had been received from Foothill Marketplace Partners, the shopping center
developer, identifying a number of items of concern. He said he had spoken to
Mr. Ramming from Foothill Marketplace Partners, who stated he wanted to clarify
that they are supportive of the project and only wanted to be sure that the
issues they raised are considered. He reported Mr. Ramming said he did not wish
to hold up any action by the Commission.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Arthur Strock, Price Costco, 4649 Morena Boulevard, San Diego, stated they
accepted the conditions as proposed. He said he and his team were available to
answer questions.
Commissioner Melcher noted the proposed roadway design is significantly different
from the sketch which Commissioner Lumpp had made at the Design Review Committee
meeting. He was concerned that the intersection remains offset and that the new
roadway on the Price Club property approaches the intersection at an oblique
angle, rather than a right angle. He thought a lot of money will be spent
without correcting the problems unless the intersection is constructed at more
of a right angle.
Mr. Strock said they felt this was an improvement over the sketch and he thought
the Design Review Committee had accepted their revised plan.
Commissioner Melcher asked that staff comment regarding the intersection.
Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, felt most patrons who enter the center from
Foothill Boulevard who want to go east will enter at the traffic signal to the
east of this intersection. He thought the majority of the people entering this
intersection will be going to the right or straight and felt the proposed
driveway alignment provides safe movement in those directions. He did not think
there will be many people attempting to make left turns at the intersection in
question.
Chairman Barker noted the Commission had raised some concerns regarding the
traffic pattern immediately in front of Price Club.
Mr. Murphy stated that at the time the project was originally approved, the drive
aisle in front of Price Club was considered as an important element to provide
overall circulation for the shopping center but cones have been put up across the
front of the Price Club site which have been inhibiting the traffic flow. He
noted that a condition had been included in the resolution regarding the
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modification to the master plan to require the cones to be removed and provide
for City Planner approval of other appropriate traffic measures.
Commissioner Lumpp recalled that the applicant had expressed a willingness to
remove the cones even without a condition.
Mr. Murphy responded that was correct. He said the condition was merely a
reinforcement of what was agreed to at the Design Review Committee meeting.
Commissioner Melcher noted that the applicant may have expressed a willingness
to remove the cones, but it had not been done as yet. He felt the cones could
be put back up the day after Price Costco receives approval. He feared that if
the City requires removal of the cones, the City would be liable if there is a
subsequent accident.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, said that it is possible, should an incident
arise, that the City could be brought into a lawsuit, but he did not believe the
requirement to remove the cones would create greater liability.
Commissioner Melcher asked how the City can enforce keeping the cones out.
Mr. Hanson said that could be handled by Code Enforcement, but he acknowledged
it would be difficult.
Commissioner Lumpp asked that the applicant's traffic engineer discuss the lack
of a 90-degree angle at the traffic intersection.
Herman Basmaciyon, Kimley-Horn and Associates, 2100 West Orangewood Avenue,
Orange, felt that Mr. James had given a good summary of the situation.
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. He asked
if the letter from Foothill Marketplace Partners should have an impact on the
Commission's decision.
Mr. Murphy replied that several of the points raised are issues between property
owners. He thought the only one which would could potentially have bearing on
the Commission's decision tonight would be regarding the location of the building
relative to the property line. He said staff had not an opportunity to research
what those impacts would be. He thought in a worse case scenario, it may mean
forcing the building to the west if there is a need for an easement which cannot
be worked out with the property owners.
Commissioner Lumpp said the final decision on where the building should be is up
to the Planning Commission and he felt Foothill Marketplace was merely trying to
voice its concerns.
Mr. Murphy observed that the letter was directed to the architect of the project,
not the City. He thought that if the Commission were to approve the project as
submitted by the applicant and there are requirements for easements which cannot
be worked out, the applicant would have to request a modification to the plans.
Commissioner Melcher stated he was still concerned about the intersection and
cone issues. He felt the applicant should be required to either remove the glass
enclosure which was put in at their entrance or change the openings in the glass
enclosure to the sides so that people will not step directly into the drive aisle
when exiting the building. He thought the construction of the glass enclosure
had led to the placement of the cones to protect people exiting from vehicles
traveling in the drive aisle. He thought it would be a mistake to merely rely
on a condition to remove the cones. He requested that the City Traffic Engineer
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comment on the differences between the proposed intersection and that which was
sketched at the Design Review Committee meeting.
Paul Rougeau, Traffic Engineer, agreed with the analysis which Mr. James had
given. He said the intersection should operate with fairly low speeds with a
two-way stop and should operate fairly well in either configuration. He thought
it could be changed to a multi-way ~top or a signalized intersection. He agreed
that the one which includes more of a 90-degree angle is ideally better, but he
felt there are limitations on the property and the applicant wanted to cause as
little disruption as possible. He felt the cone issue is important and noted he
had not observed other shopping centers utilize cones in such a way that it
cripples on-site circulation.
Commissioner Melcher said his main concern with the applicant's proposed
intersection design is that it will be particularly awkward for drivers who enter
that intersection and want to go east because the angle is more than 90 degrees.
Mr. Rougeau agreed it will be more awkward than the original sketch. He
suggested a compromise between the two designs. He said the people entering from
Foothill Boulevard will not have a stop sign before making a left turn and it
would be easier to make if it is more of a 90-degree angle, but he did not think
it would have to be the extreme condition depicted on the first sketch.
Chairman Barker reopened the public hearing. He asked the applicant to comment
on Commissioner Melcher's stated concerns.
Mr. Strock said there is no resistance from Price Costco to removing the cones.
He felt they would be happy to write a letter indicating they will remove the
cones and keep them out. He noted that many City employees patronize Price Club
and thought the City would know very rapidly if the cones were put up again. He
said he understood Commissioner Melcher's concerns regarding the intersection,
but he observed that a vehicle turning left would be turning to the far lane and
said the turning radius is larger than if first appears. He thought perhaps the
intersection could be changed at the corner to provide more of a 90-degree turn.
Chairman Barker asked Mr. Strock to comment on Commissioner Melcher's proposed
modification to the front of the store.
Mr. Strock did not feel that would solve the problem because the same number of
people would be exiting the store and crossing the drive aisle at that point.
He thought the solution would be to remove the cones and install some other
traffic device such as signage, change in paving patterns, or speed bumps. He
thought that would provide an adequate level of protection for pedestrians. He
did not feel Price Costco would want to tear down the glass enclosure they had
just built and he did not think it would solve the problem to have the patrons
exit to the sides and make a turn to enter the parking lot.
Chairman Barker again closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Lumpp felt that the intersection design would be acceptable since
the Traffic Engineer feels comfortable with the design but said he would be
happier if the geometry could be modified somewhat to provide more of a 90-degree
turn. He said he had initially provided the sketch only as a suggestion and had
said he would defer to the experts to make the final decision. He thought common
sense would indicate that it would be better to have more of a 90-degree angle
if it works within the confines of the design. He felt the City could rely on
Price Costco's professionalism and common sense to remove the cones and not have
to be involved with Code Enforcement. He did not feel remodeling the front of
the building to bring patrons out to the sides would solve the problem because
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the number of people would remain the same. He thought the minor modifications
requested by the Design Review Committee had been made to the building design.
He said he will be disappointed with the traffic engineer if it turns out there
are problems with the loading and trash collection area because he had voiced
concerns about that and was assured that it would not be a problem. He voiced
support for the project.
Commissioner McNiel agreed the intersection should be modified to provide more
of a 90-degree angle. He also suggested that a four-way stop be considered
because part of the traffic is currently forking off to go east before it reaches
that point. He said that will not happen with the new design. He stated he does
not like the cones, but felt that most patrons have now been trained that they
can exit the store and walk directly across the drive aisle without looking to
the left or right. He thought that speed bumps and possibly a stop sign will be
needed to ensure the safety of patrons.
Commissioner Melcher noted that the Commissioners, staff, and even the applicant
had indicated the intersection could be modified and he suggested the resolution
be modified to require realignment. He was not sure a four-way stop sign would
be best and felt a free right-turn lane should be protected for in-bound traffic.
He thought that most people expect to be able to exit a building into a safe
environment. He thought the cones were put in place to provide a barrier so that
people exiting the glass enclosure could be protected from immediately stepping
into the drive aisle. He acknowledged it will be the same number of people
exiting the building, but said it would restore the ability to step through the
doors and be safe on the sidewalk if the front glass is closed and the doorways
are moved to the sides. He said it would allow transitioning from inside to
outside without stepping directly into traffic.
Brad Buller, City Planner, noted that staff is currently processing an
application for expanding the Price Club. He suggested that the design of the
entry be addressed with that application. He said that would allow the applicant
and staff more time to evaluate the ramifications.
Commissioner McNiel felt that would be appropriate.
Commissioner Melcher agreed that would be appropriate.
Chairman Barker also agreed but noted that people do not expect to enter drive
aisles immediately upon exiting a building.
Mr. Buller stated it was his understanding that the Commission was not requesting
removal of the cones at this time.
Chairman Barker said that was true, but it was the Commission's understanding
that the expansion application is in process.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, to issue a Negative Declaration and
adopt the resolutions approving Modification to Conditional Use Permit 90-37,
Development Review 95-18, and Parcel Map 14748 with modifications to realign the
intersection to more of a 90-degree angle and delete the requirement to remove
the traffic cones from the entrance. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: TOLSTOY
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER
- carried
Chairman Barker thanked the applicant for rapidity and diligence in working with
the City.
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Mr. Strock expressed appreciation for staff's efforts in quickly processing the
application.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 95-01B - LEWIS
DEVELOPMENT CO. - A request to change the land use designation from Medium
Residential (8-14 dwelling units per acre) to Community Commercial for 47.3
acres bounded by Foothill Boulevard on the south, Rochester Avenue on the
east, the future Poplar Drive and future Church Street on the north, and the
future Orchard Avenue on the west and to High Residential (24-30 dwelling
units per acre) for 19.2 acres bounded by the future Poplar Drive and future
Church Street on the north, the future Orchard Avenue on the west, and the
proposed Community Commercial designation on the south. The City will also
consider Commercial, Medium Residential (8-14 dwelling units per acre), and
Medium-High Residential (14-24 dwelling units per acre) - APN: 0227-151-18
and 24. Staff recommends issuance of a Negative Declaration. Related Files:
Terra Vista Community Plan Amendment 95-01, Conditional Use Permit 95-11, and
Parcel Map 14022.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 95-01 -
LEWIS DEVELOPMENT CO. - A request to change the land use district from "MOC"
(Mixed Use Office/Commercial/Residential) to "CC" (Community Commercial) for
47.3 acres bounded by Foothill Boulevard on the south, Rochester Avenue on
the east, the future Poplar Drive and future Church Street on the north, and
the future Orchard Avenue on the west and to "H" (High, 24-30 dwelling units
per acre) for 19.2 acres of land bounded by the future Poplar Drive and
future Church Street on the north, the future Orchard Avenue on the west, and
the proposed Community Commercial designation on the south. The City will
also consider "C" (Commercial), "M" (Medium, 8-14 dwelling units per acre),
and MH (Medium High, 14-24 dwelling units per acre). The changes include
amending portions of the text and various tables and graphic exhibits of the
community plan to implement design features of the proposed land use
designations - APN: 0227-151-18 and 24. Staff recommends issuance of a
Negative Declaration. Related Files: General Plan Amendment 95-01B,
Conditional Use Permit 95-11, and Parcel Map 14022.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 95-11 - LEWIS DEVELOPMENT
¢Q, - The proposed development of an integrated shopping center totaling
495,736 square feet on 47.33 acres of land with proposed phase one consisting
of a 132,065 square foot Home Depot home improvement center in the Mixed Use
(Commercial, Office, Residential) District of the Terra Vista Community Plan,
located at the northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue -
APN: 227-151-18 and 24. Staff recommends issuance of a Negative
Declaration. Related Files: General Plan Amendment 95-01B, Terra Vista
Community Plan Amendment 95-01, and Parcel Map 14022.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 14022 - LEWIS DEVELOPMENT
CQ- - A subdivision of 66.5 acres of land into 12 parcels in the Mixed Use
Development District of the Terra Vista Community Plan, located at the
northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue -
APN: 227-151-18 and 24. Staff recommends issuance of a Negative
Declaration. Related files: General Plan Amendment 95-01B, Terra Vista
Community Plan Amendment 95-01, and Conditional Use Permit 95-11.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that SANBAG had requested additional data from
the developer on the Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA) and Lewis had agreed to a
two-week continuance to allow time for the report to be resubmitted and approved
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by SANBAG and City staff. He said that Lewis had expressed a desire to comment
on some of the proposed conditions.
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report regarding General Plan
Amendment 95-01B and Terra Vista Community Plan Amendment 95-01.
Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, presented the staff report regarding Conditional
Use Permit 95-11. He noted that staff suggested adding a condition that approval
of Conditional Use Permit 95-11 be contingent upon approval of General Plan
Amendment 95-01B and Terra Vista Community Plan 95-01.
Commissioner Melcher questioned where to find the condition dealing with the
adjacency situation between this project and the proposed residential area behind
it.
Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, replied that the language is in the proposed Terra
Vista Community Plan text amendment on Page D, E 55.
Commissioner Melcher asked if a road will be located behind Home Depot going into
Rochester.
Mr. Hayes responded that is to be a service drive for trucks exiting the site.
Commissioner Melcher said he had not previously noticed a connection from Home
Depot to Rochester.
Mr. Hayes said the enlargement was a revision which was incorporated since the
second workshop.
Commissioner Lumpp asked that Lewis Homes color up the most recent site plan for
presentation at the September 27 meeting. He asked if the resolution for
Conditional Use Permit 95-11 included conditions for only Phase One.
Mr. Hayes responded that the conditions are for Phase One development but some
conditions pertain to the project in total. He said the situation is similar to
the way Terra Vista Town Center Square was processed.
Commissioner Lumpp asked if staff had discussed how the project will be modified
to meet minimum parking requirement.
Mr. Hayes said he thought the applicant wished to discuss that as part of their
presentation tonight.
Commissioner Lumpp suggested that the condition regarding noise levels be
modified to indicate it refers to maximum noise levels as measured at the
property line.
Mr. Buller responded that the condition was repeated directly from the
Development Code. He said the intent is to measure the noise levels at the
property line.
Commissioner Lumpp asked if the focal point and roofing material would be
discussed this evening.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Gary Luque, Lewis D~velopment Co., 1156 North Mountain Avenue, Upland, stated
Greg Hoxworth from their commercial department and representatives from their
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engineer and Home Depot were in attendance. He stated they could answer any
questions'from the Commissioners.
Chairman Barker suggested that they make the Commission aware of any and all
issues having to do with Home Depot.
Greg Hoxworth, Lewis Development Co., 1156 North Mountain Avenue, Upland, stated
their discussions with Home Depot had centered around the assumption that Home
Depot would not have to have parking for the uncovered portion of the garden
area. He said the covered portion of the garden department had increased and
Home Depot had indicated a willingness to provide parking for the additional
2,000 to 3,000 square feet, which would result in 10 to 15 spaces. He said it
was their position that they were not planning or aware that they would have to
provide parking for the uncovered portion.
Chairman Barker asked if that meant that they would have not provided any parking
if the total sales area were outdoors.
Mr. Hoxworth said that garden areas are typically uncovered because parking is
then not required in most cities. He said the other side'of the coin is that
Home Depot is really a warehouse store and a lot of the square footage is
actually warehouse and storage space rather than retail. He thought that if the
building square footage were broken down by use, parking at 5 spaces per 1,000
square feet would provide much more parking than is needed.
Commissioner Lumpp did not agree with the idea that a large portion of the
business is warehouse and storage space and would not need to be parked at
5 spaces per 1,000 square feet.
Mr. Hoxworth said that when the entire project is built, it will be parked at 5
spaces per 1,000 square feet. He thought the issue is now the phasing.
Mr. Hayes stated that parking was calculated for the entire garden area on
previous projects with outdoor garden centers, such as Wal-Mart, Target, and the
original Home Depot center on another property.
Mr. Hoxworth asked if Home Depot would have to accommodate all of the parking on
their parcel. He noted that Home Depot is purchasing their parcel and the parcel
size was calculated to provide 5 spaces per 1,000 square feet of covered
building. He asked if Phase One needs to include the spaces required by the
uncovered garden area or if that parking could be installed with future phases.
Commissioner Lumpp stated that Phase One would be deficient 95 parking spaces
based on the current plans and the Development Code will not allow that
deficiency because there is no guarantee that future phases will be built. He
felt the 95 spaces would not have to be on the Home Depot lot so long as they are
provided.
Mike Lasley, Lewis Development Co., 1156 North Mountain Avenue, Upland, suggested
that a condition be included that the 95 spaces will be constructed within a
certain time frame if the second phase of construction does not move ahead.
Chairman Barker stated that if the parking ratios are accurate, Home Depot
patrons will need a place to park when the store opens even if other phases of
the development have not begun construction. He was not sure the Planning
Commission would have any option other than to require the parking under the
Development Code.
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Mr. Lasley stated they would have applied for a Variance if they had been aware
that such parking would be required.
Commissioner McNiel felt the requirement should not have been a surprise to
Lewis. He thought that if the Code requires a certain amount of parking for
construction of the facility, then perhaps the lot line should be adjusted. He
saw no reason to defer the parking requirement and felt that if the building is
to be open, the required parking should be provided. He thought the tenant would
be hindered if enough parking is not provided.
Frank Coda, Greenberg Farrow Architects, 17941 Fitch Road, Irvine, stated that
he heard that the City has required all outdoor area garden centers to be parked
at the full retail rate. He said they would contend they do not need the full
parking and could provide studies to support their contention, but suggested that
in the interest of moving forward, they provide the required parking spaces but
leave the parcel line at its present location, so that some of the parking would
be built off the Phase One parcel.
Mr. Buller indicated that staff would not object to that solution.
Chairman Barker thought that should be acceptable.
Commissioner McNiel observed that the parking should be provided in a full scale,
finished condition, not as a temporary parking area.
Mr. Coda stated they had also intended to clarify that the noise levels would be
measured at the property line. He indicated the final design of the customer
pick-up lane in front of Home Depot had been provided to staff today and he
questioned if that would satisfy Planning Condition No. 36.
Mr. Hayes said the condition refers to the final combination of the colored
paving materials, paint striping, etc. that have been discussed on a number of
occasions.
Mr. Coda noted that Planning Conditions No. 18 and 40 both refer to outdoor
display areas. He thought the agreement had been that they would be allowed to
display merchandise under the roof canopy and he feared Condition No. 18 might
be construed to prohibit such displays.
Chairman Barker felt the issue could be clarified with staff.
Mr. Buller suggested that Planning Condition No. 18 could be eliminated as
Condition No. 40 is more specific.
Mr. Hoxworth reiterated that the timeliness of addressing the parking issue
created a business issue in the deal that had been previously negotiated. He
said they would work it out over the next two weeks.
Chairman Barker commented that the Commission and staff have been moving the
project forward very rapidly. He asked if there were any other problems that
would stop the Home Depot project.
Mr. Hoxworth replied there were other issues that do not relate specifically to
Home Depot. He requested clarification as to what was desired regarding
additional enlarged landscape planter areas and said he felt they had already
made the necessary changes.
Chairman Barker asked if the applicant had asked staff for clarification.
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Mr. Hayes stated there had been several discussions regarding the matter.
Commissioner Melcher said it appeared to be a difference of opinion.
Mr. Lasley said that the site plan had been discussed at the workshops. He
commented the site plan on display was not the most recent one. He stated there
had been discussions that their proposed landscape plan does not create a similar
type of grove effect that is in place in Terra Vista Town Center. He said they
went through the plan and removed some of the parking throughout the whole
project. He remarked they took out the parking at the end of the entry drive
aisle on the Home Depot parcel instead of going through the whole parking lot and
creating additional landscape islands. He thought they had already satisfied the
condition and suggested that the plan as now submitted represents what they
propose. He said they had brought uncolored copies of their revised landscape
plan to the workshops.
Mr. Hoxworth suggested they meet with staff and clarify the matter before the
next Planning Commission meeting.
Chairman Barker suggested that if the applicant meets with staff and can not
agree, then the specifics should be forwarded to the Commission so the Commission
can make a decision.
Mr. Hoxworth said they would like to list the potential issues for the record.
He stated that Planning Condition No. 5 indicates that trash enclosures must be
designed before they obtain any building permits. He said there are no trash
enclosures in Phase One and he suggested that they not be required to submit the
design until a future phase.
Commissioner McNiel asked where Home Depot's trash will go.
Mr. Hoxworth replied that trash facilities will be built into the Home Depot
building.
Commissioner McNiel commented that it would be sufficient to identify the
location on the site plan.
Mr. Lasley said they merely wanted to indicate that the trash enclosure design
requirement is for subsequent phases rather than Home Depot.
Mr. Hoxworth noted that an expanded Design Guideline Supplement is requested
under Planning Condition No. 10. He said they had submitted an expanded one at
the last workshop and he asked that they be advised if that is acceptable. He
questioned if the requirement for a security patrol is a City ordinance.
Mr. Buller replied that the security issue is not a code requirement.
Mr. Lasley felt security is the responsibility of the developer and such a
requirement should not be included in the resolution.
Mr. Hoxworth felt security is an operating decision and Lewis should have full
control over the extent and frequency of patrols.
Mr. Lasley commented that the City had previously opposed security grills at a
store and had indicated there is not enough crime to warrant such steps. He said
he had never seen such a condition on any of the projects he had ever worked on.
Commissioner Melcher agreed it is the responsibility of the developer but stated
the City frequently reminds developers of that responsibility.
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Mr. Hoxworth requested that the bus shelter design for Terra Vista be permitted
with a change of materials and colors to match this project. He said they did
not want to redesign the shelter.
Mr. Lasley stated that when Central Park Plaza was approved, Lewis agreed to use
the same bus shelter design throughout all of Terra Vista with a change of
colors, roof tile, and wainscot tile, where applicable. He said those drawings
would be incorporated into the site development package.
Mr. Hoxworth requested clarification that their current landscape plans will meet
Planning Condition No. 30, requiring replacement planting for removal of existing
mature trees. He said they were not willing to commit to any additional
landscaping.
Mr. Lasley stated they are adding a number of trees.
Commissioner Lumpp said there is only one tree on site.
Mr. Lasley said there is also a small grove of almost dead eucalyptus trees along
Foothill Boulevard. He noted the Tree Removal Permit requires a certain number
of trees for every established tree that is removed. He felt they had met the
landscape requirements for the project.
Mr. Luque said the matter was moot because the eucalyptus trees have to be
removed for the widening of Foothill Boulevard.
Mr. Hoxworth mentioned that Planning Condition No. 32 refers to the design
guidelines mentioned in Planning Condition No. 10. He requested that Planning
Condition No. 42 be modified to allow more time to install the art piece at the
activity center. He said they may have a committee and he did not want the
artist to have to build a sculpture before the space is ready. He suggested they
install the art piece within 180 days after Home Depot opens. Mr. Hoxworth
acknowledged that staff had previously discussed incorporating features and
landscaping that depicts the heritage of the citrus industry but he stated he was
surprised to see that requirement included in Planning Condition No. 48. He said
they have designed something different and their plans do not call for reflecting
the citrus industry.
Chairman Barker recalled the discussions regarding the corner. He said it had
been noted that the project across the street would include a Vintner's Walk and
he thought it was agreed that citrus would be spotlighted on this corner.
Commissioner Lumpp also recalled the discussions.
Mr. Hoxworth acknowledged it had been discussed, but said their concept had been
that the design should relate to the old vineyards.
Chairman Barker said he understood staff's inclusion of Condition No. 48 because
he thought that was the understanding.
Commissioners Lumpp and McNiel concurred that they thought it had been agreed to
by the developer.
Mr. Buller said that the condition does not require changing the design of the
Activity Center as proposed by the applicant but simply that the landscape
architect incorporate plaques or some other elements that would recall the
history of the citrus business in Rancho Cucamonga.
Mr. Lasley thought it could be dealt with in Phase Two.
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Mr. Buller observed that portions of the Activity Center are in Phase One.
Mr. Lasley felt there would not be any room for that kind of element within the
Phase One development. He said they are basically replicating what is going on
in the Masi project, which does not include a citrus theme. He thought the
matter could be addressed in workshops for future phases.
Mr. Hoxworth requested that Engineering Condition No. 2 be modified to indicate
that their driveway align with the future Masi Drive as it is currently proposed
and not require that they change their plans if the location of Masi Drive should
change.
Commissioners Lumpp and McNiel thought that was a valid point.
Mr. Hoxworth requested that Engineering Conditions No. 9 and 10 be modified to
require installation of the traffic signals and Orchard Avenue from Foothill
Boulevard to Church Street only when warrant studies indicate such improvements
are required rather than tying the installation to specific phasing plans. He
requested clarification regarding the parkway landscaping theme on the east side
of Rochester Avenue.
Mr. Buller said the landshaping is to have similar plant materials to that which
is installed north of their parcel.
Mr. Lasley requested that Engineering Condition ld be modified to allow them to
abandon in place the 18-inch corrugated metal pipe which crosses Foothill
Boulevard so they would not have to tear up Foothill Boulevard.
Commissioner McNiel asked if the pipe would have to be filled.
Mr. Lasley suggested it be abandoned in place to the satisfaction.of the City
Engineer based on whatever fill conditions are required.
Commissioner McNiel said that sometimes a slurry is pumped in to avoid cave ins.
Mr. Lasley asserted it would be easier to fill it than to remove it.
Mr. James observed the pipe is in Caltrans right of way so Caltrans would have
to process the permit.
Mr. Hoxworth requested that Engineering Condition No. 20 be revised so that the
in-lieu fee for future undergrounding of utilities on the opposite side of
Rochester be reduced by the cost of any facilities they put in when
undergrounding on their property.
Mr. James said the condition is consistent with the Underground Utility Policy.
Mark Bertone, Madole and Associates, 10601 Church Street, #107, Rancho Cucamonga,
stated that Lewis is installing conduit and appropriate vaults along the west
side of Rochester and they are requesting credit for that conduit and vaults.
Mr. James said that currently there are only overheads on the east side of
Rochester.
Mr. Bertone said that was correct, but Southern California Edison has requested
that Lewis Homes install the conduit facilities and vaults as part of the on-site
system and the curb and gutter on the west side of Rochester.
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Mr. James suggested that staff and the applicant work to clarify the issue before
the next meeting to keep the requirement consistent with the Underground Utility
Policy.
Commissioner Melcher noted that Church Street is not mentioned in Standard
Condition M3. He questioned what street improvements will be required with Phase
One.
Mr. James replied the Conditional Use Permit is for the shopping center. He said
the Parcel Map going with the project has an improvement certificate on it for
Church Street to be constructed with the residential complex. He noted Phase One
of the shopping center is responsible for Rochester Avenue from Poplar south to
Foothill Boulevard, Poplar across the project frontage, and Foothill Boulevard
across the frontage of the entire site between Rochester and Orchard. He said
they will not construct Orchard with Phase One nor Church Street. He stated
installation of Orchard from Foothill connecting to Church Street will be
required with future phasing of the site. He commented that Church Street
currently exists from Milliken east to Orchard. He said the loop would thus
exist with construction of Phase Two even if the residential is not built at that
time.
Commissioner Melcher asked if the requirements are consistent with the Terra
Vista Street Improvement Plan that was adopted several years ago.
Mr. James responded affirmatively.
Commissioner McNiel asked if the street phasing could be displayed at the next
meeting. He felt that Terra Vista has had too many unfinished streets throughout
the duration of the project.
Mr. Hoxworth said they had requested that they not be required to build Orchard
Avenue with Phase Two because their current phasing plan calls for Phase Two to
extend only between Rochester Avenue and the middle drive. He commented there
will be three to four phases.
Commissioner Melcher asked if Lewis had shared their phasing plans with the City.
Mr. Hoxworth thought they had. He said it will be a project which is built one
to two buildings at a time, moving from Home Depot toward Church.
Mr. Buller commented that the Commission had worked diligently primarily on the
Home Depot. He did not think the Commission had discussed the phasing plans
during any of the workshops.
Commissioner Melcher felt the applicant should share the phasing information in
a graphic form that would be conditionable.
Mr. Hoxworth said they would be happy to do so.
Chairman Barker asked if the TIA issue would be dealt with by the next Planning
Commission meeting.
Mr. Hoxworth said it had been submitted to SANBAG today and should hopefully be
back to the City within a week or so and hopefully City staff would have an
opportunity to review it prior to the next meeting.
Mr. Buller said that City Traffic Engineer Paul Rougeau was available if the
Commission should have any questions.
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Chairman Barker noted that it is the developer's responsibility to have the TIA
accepted.
Mr. Hoxworth said it had been submitted but was sent back to them for
corrections. He said the corrections have been submitted and SANBAG and the City
should now be able to sign it off.
Vasanthi Ramahthan, Greenberg Farrow Architects, 17941 Fitch Road, Irvine, stated
they had submitted an interim plan for the partition between the future retail
building and the Home Depot Garden Center. She noted they propose constructing
a temporary 20-foot high wrought iron fence for security reasons.
Mr. Hayes said the plans had been submitted last Thursday and he had not had a
chance to analyze them. He thought it should be acceptable for an interim
situation.
Ms. Ramahthan said the fencing will match the other fencing of the garden center.
Mr. Lasley said Home Depot wanted to build the fence out of wrought iron in lieu
of a temporary chain link fence for security reasons. He thought the proposed
fence would be appropriate.
Chairman Barker said the City appreciated the wrought iron fencing. He noted the
items were to be continued.
Mr. Buller said the Commission could discuss the items brought up by the
applicant or could merely receive the testimony and continue the matter.
Commissioner McNiel suggested that staff and the applicant discuss the concerns
raised.
Chairman Barker felt most of the issues could be worked out between staff and the
applicant.
Mr. Buller suggested that if any Commissioners had strong objections to any 0f
the applicant's requests, that they contact staff. He noted that the project had
been placed on the October 4 City Council agenda.
Commissioner Melcher observed that the proposed text amendment calls for only a
20-foot minimum setback for the adjacent residential project from the back of
this proposed commercial center. He noted there was a lO0-foot setback from the
Shell station and said he could not support such a low minimum.
Mr. Luque pointed out that Figure IV-18 in the proposed text amendment shows a
minimum 100 feet as the buffer between High Residential and Community Commercial
buildings.
Commissioner Melcher responded that the number in the text remains unacceptable.
He felt that if the text remains at 20 feet, the developer would ask for 20 feet.
Mr. Luque commented that if they decide to build a single family, detached
project, they would propose a 20-foot back yard setback.
Commissioner Melcher felt that would not be sufficient. He said there is not a
similar impact anywhere else in Terra Vista. He commented he had expressed that
sentiment to Mr. Luque on several occasions. He indicated he would not support
the Terra Vista Community Plan Amendment with such a low setback.
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Mr. Luque said Lewis had that figure set for some time and he would take
Commissioner's Melcher's comments into consideration.
Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, to continue General Plan
Amendment 95-01B, Terra Vista Community Plan Amendment 95-01, Conditional Use
Permit 95-11, and Parcel Map 14022 to September 27, 1995. Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: TOLSTOY
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER
- carried
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 95-22 - WILCOX - A request to convert a 600 square
foot workshop into a second dwelling unit in the Very Low Residential
designation (less than 2 dwelling units per acre), located at 10802 Hillside
Road - APN: 1074-401-08.
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated that the applicant had withdrawn the
application and no action was necessary on the part of the Commission.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no Commission Business at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Melcher, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent,
to adjourn.
8:47 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Secretary
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