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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
August 9, 1995
Chairman Barker called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Rains Room
at the Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John
Melcher, Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT:
Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior
Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James,
Senior Civil Engineer; Betty Miller, Associate
Engineer
APPLICANT/DEVELOPER:
Gary Luque, Greg Hoxworth, Robert McLendon, Lewis
Development Company; Mike Lasley, Private Consultant
for Lewis Development Company; Andy Feola and Greg
Mendoza, Feola, Carli, and Archuleta Architects;
Mark Schenouda and Vasanthi Ramahtlan, Greenberg
Farrow Architects; Greg George, Home Depot
OLD BUSINESS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 95-11 - WESTERN LAND PROPERTIES - The proposed
development of an integrated shopping center totaling 495,736 square feet on
47.33 acres of land with proposed phase one development consisting of a
136,953 square foot Home Depot home improvement center in the Mixed Use
(Commercial, Office, Residential) District of the Terra Vista Community Plan,
located at the northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue -
APN: 227-151-18 and 24. Related Files: Terra Vista Community Plan
Amendment 95-01 and General Plan Amendment 95-01B.
Brad Buller, City Planner, explained the purpose of the workshop, attempting to
focus on issues related to development of the Home Depot to allow the applicant
to proceed with starting to prepare working drawings for construction.
Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, highlighted the first item of discussion for the
Commission, the parking lot layout south of Home Depot.
Robert McLendon, Lewis Development Company, explained why the development team
felt the parking lot as proposed works as the best layout for the site.
Mark Schenouda, Greenberg Farrow Architects, embellished further on the
circulation patterns and how it works best for Home Depot.
Commissioner Melcher felt that the number of site constraints on vacant land is
very limited, thereby a better circulation pattern could be designed by the
development team.
Mr. Schenouda explained that the driveway location on Rochester Avenue is fixed
by the driveway policies of the Engineering Division.
Commissioner Melcher indicated that he would like to see further refinements to
the parking situation in the Home Depot parking area. He noted that, in his
opinion, the parking situation at Wal-Mart is only saved by having a few fixed
points of entrance to the parking area. He felt a sweeping radius left curve
with an entrance on the right for the Home Depot field of parking would be
preferable.
Mike Lasley, consultant for Lewis Development, questioned where the drive aisle
could start to curve.
Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that the curve could start anywhere
behind the property line.
Mr. Lasley explained that the entrance off Rochester Avenue would only be used
for people shopping at Home Depot.
Commissioner Tolstoy disagreed with Mr. Lasley, in that he felt that many
residents who live north of Base Line Road will use Rochester Avenue because it
is the fastest north/south route in the City to the site. He asked whether the
driveway on Rochester Avenue could be moved south, closer to Foothill Boulevard.
Betty Miller, Associate Engineer, noted that additional traffic conflicts could
occur if the driveway is located too close to Foothill Boulevard or does not line
up with Chervil Street.
Gary Luque, Lewis Development Company, stated that the development team would
attempt to address Commissioner Melcher's comments.
Andy Feola, Feola, Carli, and Archuleta Architects, acknowledged the concerns of
the Planning Commission relative to the parking situation, but stated he felt it
would be more dangerous to design a three-way intersection on a curve.
Mr. Luque also noted that directory signage will be used extensively throughout
the project.
Chairman Barker asked the development team to find a solution to the Commission's
concerns.
Commissioner Lumpp suggested that where the driveway currently ends at the
landscape planter, that it be repeated to the westerly drive aisle as shown on
the Phase One Site Plan.
Mr. Lasley presented the Commission with a sketch of how the parking issue could
potentially be resolved.
Commissioner Melcher asked if the entrance is wide enough to accommodate two
lanes of traffic in each direction.
Mr. Feola responded affirmatively.
All of the Commissioners agreed that the development team could pursue this
option, but two of the Commissioners expressed that it would still not adequately
address their concerns.
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Commissioner Tolstoy reiterated that people living above Foothill Boulevard will
use the Rochester Avenue entrance to the site. He suggested a more sweeping
curve be designed at the west end of the Home Depot parking area with a "Y"
intersection to direct people away from the Home Depot parking area if they are
not frequenting that establishment.
Commissioner Lumpp disagreed with that idea.
All of the Commissioners felt that the landscaping in front of Home Depot is
sufficient, given the use and the incorporation of other design elements into the
building.
Mr. Hayes presented the issue of screening the lumber off-loading area.
Mr. Lasley presented the proposed solution which includes a curb adjacent
sidewalk.
Commissioner Melcher requested that a retaining wall be added to raise the
berming in order to provide a more sufficient screen of the drive aisle leading
to the unloading area.
Mr. McLendon stated that the developer preferred a non-retaining screen wall to
alleviate the Commission's concerns.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that a shrub hedge cannot in and of itself provide a
sufficient screen for a parking area or drive aisle.
'Commissioner McNiel recommended that the screen wall be carried westward from its
currently proposed location. He asked how many trucks could be stacked in the
drive aisle area behind the lumber off-loading area.
Mr. Schenouda stated that two trucks could be stacked in this area, but indicated
that usually only two trucks per day come to the site with materials.
Commissioner Lumpp felt the screening problem in this area is magnified because
where Poplar Drive curves, the view for eastbound traffic is directly into the
off-loading area. He suggested that landscaping and walls be located in such a
way as to be sensitive to this specific situation.
Commissioner Melcher expressed his continued concern with the land use transition
between the shopping center and the future residential project directly north and
west of the shopping center.
All of the Commissioners concurred that additional screening of the drive aisle
leading to the lumber off-loading area is needed.
Greg Mendoza, Feola, Carli, and Archuleta Architects, asked if a solution could
be derived where walls, landscaping, and berming were used intermittently to
provide a more interesting screen.
Mr. Buller thought that such a solution would be possible.
Chairman Barker felt that sections of flat wall usually appear cheap and that a
solution with more variety would be preferable.
Vasanthi Ramahtlan, Greenberg Farrow Architects, presented the modifications to
the architecture, on which the Planning Commission concurred and accepted.
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Mr. Schenouda presented sight lines and a roof plan for Home Depot.
Mr. McLendon stated that the developer is agreeable to paint out all roof-mounted
mechanical equipment to match the building and roof of the Home Depot.
Commissioner Melcher questioned whether the roof parapets would completely screen
all roof-mounted equipment and if there were any west facing windows on the
hotel.
Mr. Buller responded that the approval for the hotel project on the east side of .
Rochester Avenue has expired.
The Commissioners concurred that the roof screening would be sufficient if the
parapet walls are tall enough to completely screen the equipment and the
equipment is painted to match the building and roof.
Mr. Schenouda described their proposal to treat the loading zone in front of Home
Depot with colored concrete and white striping and wording. He also described
the signage proposed for the south elevation, the lumber canopy, and the garden
center.
The Commission concurred that a 5-foot high sign would be acceptable on the south
face of the building and it would be acceptable for the nursery sign to have
2-foot tall letters and the lumber entrance sign 3-foot tall individual channel
letters.
Ms. Ramahtlan presented a potential modification to the Home Depot building, with
additional area on the west side of the building and a modified house plant
enclosure and nursery area.
Mr. Buller asked the Planning Commission if the City Planner could consider a
change if no decision is made by Home Depot prior to the September 13 hearing
date.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned whether the size of the trellis in front of the
house plant enclosure would be modified with this revision.
Mr. Lasley responded that the size and the location of the trellis would not be
affected by the proposed modification.
The consensus of the Commission was that the City Planner could consider the
change without future review by the Commission.
Mr. Schenouda posed the question of outdoor displays to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Buller explained the provisions of the Municipal Code, and noted that the
type of outdoor displays typically associated with a Home Depot are not covered
in the Code. He recommended that a condition be placed on the Conditional Use
Permit limiting the areas where outdoor displays could occur.
Commissioner Melcher noted how he now felt that the standing seam metal roof
proposed for the promenade roofing material was not an acceptable application
because of the precedent set with other shopping centers in the vicinity on the
north side of Foothill Boulevard. He also stated that the proposed drive-thru
pads may not comply with the drive-thru development standards that are currently
being developed by the Planning Commission Sub-Committee.
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Commissioner Tolstoy felt that the area of the drive-thru pads is too small to
address the issues typically associated with fast-food facilities.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Secretary
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