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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
October 13, 1993
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:07 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council
Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga, California.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
Suzanne Chitlea, Larry McNiel, John
Melcher, Peter Tolstoy, Wendy Vallette
(arrived at 8:11 p.m.)
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT:
Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal
Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy
City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James,
Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner;
Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning
Commission Secretary
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Melcher, carried 4-0-1 with Vallette
absent, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of August 4, 1993.
Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, carried 3-0-1-1 with Vallette
absent and Chitlea abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting
of August 25, 1993.
Commissioner Melcher requested that the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of
September 9, 1993, be withdrawn. The minutes were not acted upon.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel, carried 4-0-1 with Vallette
absent, to adopt the minutes of September 22, 1993.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
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DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13280 - CENTEX HOMES - The design review
for building elevations and detailed site plan for the easterly 67 lots of
a recorded tract map consisting of 145 single family lots on 23.9 acres of
land in the Low-Medium Residential District (4-8 dwelling units per acre)
of the Victoria Planned Community, located on the north side of Base Line
Road Between Ellena East and Ellena West - APN: 227-070-31 through 40, 43
through 51, 53 through 73, and 95 through 97 and 227-071-01 through 24.
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VACATION OF A PORTION OF CAMINO PREDERA - A request to vacate a portion of
excess Camino Predera right-of-way, located south of Red Hill Country Club
Drive - APN: 207-092-11.
Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Chitlea, carried 4-0-1 with Vallette
absent, to adopt the Consent Calendar.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 14555 - CHANG - A residential
subdivision of 7 single family lots on 4.36 acres of land in the Very Low
Residential District (less than two dwelling units per acre), located
south of Vista Grove Street and east of Hermosa Avenue - APN: 1074-231-04
and 05. Staff recommends issuance of a Negative Declaration. Associated
with this project is Tree Removal Permit 92-23.
Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and reported a
nearby resident had contacted the City and requested fencing and security
during the time of construction, assurances that refuse would be picked up
from the site, and limited working hours. Ms. Niseen stated that the
Development Code limits construction hours to 6:30 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Ms.
Nissen stated that Engineering staff had also requested an additional
condition to indicate that the sidewalk on Woodridge Court would only be
constructed on the west side.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Twen Ma, 195 Mr. Olive Drive, Bradbury, stated he represented the project
owner.
Chairman McNiel asked if they would be fencing the project.
Mr. Ma responded they would provide complete fencing and trash pickup would be
on a frequent basis.
Chairman McNiel asked if Mr. Ma objected to limiting the hours of
construction.
Mr. Ma replied he did not and indicated they would also set strict rules
regarding loud radios.
Planning Commission Minutes -2- October 13, 1993
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that as construction on homes may not occur for
some time, the condition should be changed to require not only installation,
but also maintenance of the drip irrigation system being installed for the
replacement trees.
Commissioner Melcher asked if a homeowners' association was proposed for the
project.
Mr. Ma replied negatively.
Commissioner Melcher suggested that the tree planting be deferred until the
houses are constructed because he felt immediate installation may result in
problems with the water metering.
Commissioner Tolstoy thought the trees should be planted as soon as possible
because they are replacing a wind break and it would also be important that
the trees all be planted at the same time.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, noted that there could conceivably be
seven different owners, making it difficult to get the trees installed.
Howard Burt, 5230 Smokey Mountain Place, Rancho Cucamonga, expressed concerns
about the size and quality of homes and the possible selling price.
Chairman McNiel observed the homes would not be reviewed until they are ready
to be built.
Ms. Nissen stated the minimum size permitted under the Development Code is
1,000 square feet.
Chairman McNiel felt anyone purchasing one of the lots would want to build a
more substantial house than 1,000 square feet. He questioned if there would
be any notification sent to nearby residents for development of a single
custom home.
Ms. Nissen replied that for a single custom home, there is no requirement for
public notification or a public hearing.
Commissioner Chitlea observed that the property is within the Hillside
Development Ordinance boundaries which would mean certain restrictions.
Mr. Butt stated he wanted to come before the Planning Commission to express
hie feelings that adjacent property owners should be protected.
Mr. Ma stated they had originally started processing plans for two-story 3,000
to 4,000 square foot houses, but they had decided to proceed with the Tract
while they continued to work out the design of the homes. He said they still
plan to build the houses after going through the Design Review process, rather
than selling off the lots for custom homes.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. He
stated that would mean the design would come back before the Planning
Commission.
Planning Commission Minutes -3- October 13, 1993
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, stated it would be noted in the file to notify
Mr. Burr when the designs are processed and he invited Mr. Burr to meet with
Ms. Nissen to view the plans which have been submitted.
Commissioner Melcher withdrew his objection to the planting and maintenance of
the trees prior to construction of homes. He opposed placing a condition on
the project to change the permitted hours of construction because it would
increase the applicant's costs. He noted that construction normally takes
place between 6:30 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. He suggested that no reference be made
to allowable construction hours other than what the City ordinance provides.
Commissioner Chitiea supported Commissioner Tolstoy's suggestion regarding the
maintenance of the trees. She felt it would be important to get the trees
planted as soon as possible because they are a windrow. She stated she
understood Commissioner Melcher's point regarding construction hours, but she
felt it would be best to start construction no earlier than 7:00 a.m. because
of its close proximity to residences.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned who would enforce a 7:00 a.m. starting time.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that enforcement responsibility would be
with the Planning Division. He commented that he would be reluctant and would
not support placing a condition regarding different time limits specific to
this project. He noted that similar construction takes place daily throughout
the City and suggested that if the Commission feels 6:30 a.m. is too early,
perhaps the ordinance should be changed. He did not see any special site
conditions that would require a special condition.
Chairman McNiel felt construction hours should be limited to 7:00 a.m. to dusk
for this project.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the resolution approving Tentative Tract 14555 with
modifications to provide for construction of the sidewalk on Woodridge Court
only on the west side, require maintenance of the drip irrigation system
within the windrow, and limit the construction hours to 7:00 a.m. to dusk.
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: MELCHER
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VALLETTE
-carried
Commissioner Melcher stated he voted no because he disagreed with the addition
of a condition regulating the hours different from the ordinance.
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VARIANCE 93-06 - E & R RANCHO PACIFIC. INC. - A request to reduce the
required building setback from residential areas from 45 feet to 0 feet
for the development of a mini-storage facility in the General Industrial
designation (Subarea 5) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on
the east side of Hermosa Avenue, south of 8th Street - APN: 209-221-19.
Planning Commission Minutes -4- October 13, 1993
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned why the wall was being proposed 3 feet off the
property line.
Mr. Murphy replied that the applicant is obligated to accept the drainage from
the north and has elected to build a concrete swale on-site as opposed to
making provisions on the properties to the north. He indicated staff has
requested that the applicant contact the property owners to the north to try
to work out plans to eliminate the 3-foot "no-man's land."
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what fences are currently in place along the
property line to the north.
Mr. Murphy responded that there is a mixture of fences from the single-family
residences.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Bill Angel, E & R Rancho Pacific, Inc., 9852 Crescent Center Drive, #801,
Rancho Cucamonga, requested approval.
Commissioner Chitlea asked the proposed height of the building wall along the
north property line and whether there would be storage behind the building.
Mr. Angel replied that the overall height of the wall will be 8 feet. He said
a 1- to 2-foot retaining wall will be incorporated within the 8 feet. He
pointed out that the property naturally falls from north to south and said
they plan to excavate another 1 to 2 feet along the northern part of the
site. He said the roll-up doors will be 6 feet 8 inches to 7 feet high.
Co~unissioner Melcher remarked that at the Design Review Committee meeting he
had asked the applicant to investigate the construction of the wall to be sure
there would be no need for a parapet.
Mr. Angel said several alternatives are available. He noted the roof will be
steel and said they will meet the Building and Safety requirements.
Commissioner Melcher asked if it would be done without the use of parapets.
Mr. Angel responded possibly. He said the exterior of the building along the
north property line will not exceed 8 feet.
Commissioner Chitlea asked if they would be able to meet drainage
requirements.
Mr. Angel replied they will have to grade. He commented that some of the
technical issues still need to be resolved. He said they had requested a
variance on the setback so they can proceed with the design.
Chairman McNiel asked if the wall will be waterproof.
Planning Commission Minutes -5- October 13, 1993
Mr. Angel responded affirmatively.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated his only reservation was the 3-foot space between
the property line and the building. He feared the area would collect trash
and graffiti, particularly in the areas where the residences have erected
fences.
Mr. Murphy said the matter had been identified as a design issue to be
addressed with the conditional use permit application.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what would happen if the variance were approved and
the applicant was able to eliminate the need for the concrete swale.
Mr. Murphy replied that the variance was written to allow the building wall on
the property line.
Commissioner Melcher stated he had been on the Design Review Co~nittee,
thought the applicant's reasoning was solid, and had suggested Mr. Angel apply
for a variance. He co~nented that since that time he had studied the
Industrial Area Specific Plan (ISP) and had driven every street in Subarea
5. He noted that the houses are small and older and some may be worthy of
preservation. He agreed that the proposed building and wall will not affect
the houses but he felt it will change the character of the properties because
they will no longer have an open feeling. He thought the minimum 45-foot
setback from residential areas was probably put in the ISP in order to provide
a buffer to protect the existing older, more affordable housing stock. He
noted that the ISP is very specific within Subarea 5 regarding the 45-foot
setback adjacent to residential areas. He commented that the applicant's
property merely sits next to where that provision is applicable and he feared
that approval of the variance may trigger other such requests. He thought the
applicant should be challenged to provide a solution without the variance.
Chairman McNiel thought the drafters of the ISP may not have considered a
mini-storage use.
Con~nissioner Melcher noted that public storage is included in the list of
conditional uses for Subarea 5.
Conwnissioner Chitlea stated she had not been involved at the time the original
ISP was adopted, but she had been on the committee when the ISP was revised.
She felt the thinking was that the 45-foot building setback was to protect the
houses from intense use. She thought landscaping should also be used to
soften the effect.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed that the thinking was to protect the residences
from larger industrial uses. He thought the currently proposed layout with
the building 3 feet from the property line or along the property line would
protect the residents from seeing vehicles which could be stored within the
45-foot building setback. He felt the variance was justified and would serve
the adjacent homeowners as well as the project applicant.
Planning Commission Minutes -6- October 13, 1993
Co~missioner Chitlea agreed it would be better to have the building closer to
the property line in order to eliminate the storage of vehicles in the area,
but she was concerned about the lack of landscaping and the "no-man's land"
with a concrete swale.
Commissioner Melcher noted that an 8-foot wall would be permitted on the
property line with the 45-foot building setback. He said he did not question
whether the concept of placing the building at the property line was good but
whether a variance would be the best vehicle to use. He felt the variance
should note that only low-profile buildings would be within the 45-foot
setback so that no precedent would be set to allow higher buildings.
Commissioner Chitlea questioned the landscaping requirements.
Mr. Murphy replied that if a parking lot or drive aisle were located within
the 45-foot building setback area, a 5-foot landscape planter area would be
required.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, said one tree per 30 linear feet would be
required if there were no buildings within the 45-foot setback area.
Commissioner Chitlea asked where landscaping would be placed if the variance
were approved.
Mr. Coleman replied that would be a design issue. He suggested landscape vine
pockets could be placed on the building.
Chairman McNiel felt it would be difficult enough to make sure that the
concrete swale is left clear of debris without having leaves dropping into it.
Con~nissioner Melcher noted that a similar condition exists in Subarea 4 with
tall buildings and the off-site side of the wall is a frequent target of
graffiti vandals. He thought it might be a good idea to require planting and
maintenance of vines on the exterior wall to discourage graffiti.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was unrealistic to think that vine pockets would
be maintained in the 3-foot space.
Mr. Bullet stated that the effect of the building would appear as an 8-foot
wall to the adjacent homes. He suggested that if the Planning Commission felt
some sort of landscaping should be required, that they could condition to
provide vines or perhaps provide landscaping to be placed on the adjacent
properties.
Co~nissioner Chitiea felt the building would need softening.
Commissioner Melcher agreed it will be one long wall.
Chairman McNiel observed that the view from each home will be only the width
of their own yard.
Planning Commission Minutes -7- October 13, 1993
Con~nissioner Melcher felt that anything planted in the back yards of the
adjacent homes would probably not be maintained because they have such deep
lots.
Chairman McNiel questioned the adequacy of the drainage.
Dan James, Senior Engineer, stated that Building and Safety will look at the
drainage study to make sure drainage will be adequately handled.
Chairman McNiel felt that vine pockets and an irrigation system would be the
best solution for the wall.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt it would be best to underground the drainage system
and put an 8-foot wall on the property line. He thought that would cause
fewer problems for everyone, giving the adjacent property owners a nice wall
and not requiring maintenance by the applicant. He suggested approving the
variance but eliminating the swale.
Mr. Murphy stated there would have to be some mechanism for accepting the flow
from the adjacent properties onto the site. He commented that Building and
Safety would prefer to have the flow in the open so that it would be visible
for maintenance purposes.
Commissioner Melcher suggested any conditions regarding landscaping be placed
on the conditional use permit application. He thought if the Co~=nission
wanted landscaping, maintenance should be included but maintenance should be
terminated when the properties to the north develop.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the Commission should only consider the variance
request.
Chairman McNiel thought that design issues should be considered in conjunction
with the variance application.
Mr. Coleman suggested adding a condition that landscaping be required with the
particulars to be worked out when the conditional use permit application is
processed.
Mr. Bullet suggested that Condition 2 be changed to indicate that building
walls along the north property line and within a 45-foot setback should not
exceed 8 feet in height as measured at the property line.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed that was a good suggestion.
Commissioner Melcher was concerned that fire walls may need to extend above
the roof line and that would make the'height greater than the 8 feet.
Mr. Murphy stated there should be no problem because of the grade differential
and the taller height would still be within the 8-foot height measured at the
property line.
Planning Co~nission Minutes -8- October 13, 1993
Motion= Moved by Chitlea, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution
approving Variance 93-06 with modifications to provide that wall height along
the north property line and within a 45-foot setback area would not exceed 8
feet and to provide for landscaping. Motion carried by the following vote=
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS=
COMMISSIONERS=
CHITIEA, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY
NONE
VALLETTE -carried
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public con~nents at this time.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
E. DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SELECTION
Chairman McNiel stated that currently Co~nissioners Melcher and Vallette serve
on the Design Review Con~nittee.
Commissioner Chitlea felt some continuity should be maintained.
Con~nissioner Melcher stated that he frequently is called upon to attend the
Route 30 meetings and he prefers that type of activity over Design Review. He
indicated he would prefer to go back to an alternate status for Design
Review. He observed that the Commission had gone on record that they would
surrender a good deal of the Design Review activities back to staff and said
he would be willing to continue to serve on the Design Review Committee if
that shift were to take place right away.
Commissioner Vallette stated she had requested to be excused from the Design
Review Committee because she has classes on Tuesday evenings during this
school quarter. She said she enjoys being on the Design Review Committee and
feels it is an important part of the process. She indicated she would like to
return to the Committee if she can reschedule her classes starting in the next
quarter. She remarked she does not see any problems with the process as it
currently exists and felt that the Commission has done much to expedite the
process. She observed that numerous projects have been going through in a
single session.
Commissioner Melcher said that in order to provide continuity, he would be
willing to serve on the Committee until Commissioner Vallette would be able to
return.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would also be willing to serve until
Commissioner Vallette returns.
Commissioner Chitlea stated she has a schedule conflict on Tuesdays and she
would prefer to remain an alternate.
Planning Commission Minutes -9- October 13, 1993
Chairman McNiel appointed Commissioner Melcher and himself through the end of
the year, with alternates to be Commissioners Tolstoy, Chitiea, and Vallette,
respectively. He directed that the appointments be reconsidered in December.
F. STANDARDS FOR INTERIM USES
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitlea asked how long interim chain link fencing is permitted.
Mr. Coleman replied that it is permitted for 3 years with extensions allowing
up to a maximum of 5 years.
Commissioner Chitlea felt it would be reasonable to require minimal
landscaping in conjunction with chain link fencing.
After some discussion on the period of time interim uses can exist and the
t~pe, quantity, and maintenance of the landscaping~ it was the consensus of
the Commission that the interim standards in the Industrial Area Specific Plan
need not be changed, but that maintenance and the enforcement of the standards
is very important.
G. UPDATE ON ROUTE 30
Commissioner Melcher stated he had attended a Route 30 meeting on October 12
which gave a brief technical update. He reported plans were made to set up
subcommittees to deal with some of the areas of concern such as bridges, sound
walls, etc. He said CalTrans had presented alternatives and options available
within their specifications and those choices would have to be made. He noted
that CalTrans works on a City-by-City basis and the Cities would have to
interact if they wish consistency along the route. He reported that Brad
Bullet was to set up a task force to study the issues and a field trip would
probably be organized.
H. FOUNDERS DAY PARADE AND CELEBRATION
Brad Buller, City Planner, noted that each Co~nissioner had received a flier
inviting their participation in the Founders Day Parade or the afternoon
celebration to be held on November 13, 1993.
Commissioner Melcher suggested that the Commissioners not ride in the parade.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested they may participate by being present as
individuals.
It was the consensus of the Commission that they would not participate in the
parade but they may wish to individually volunteer time at one of the booths,
such as the one which the Etiwanda Historical Society is sponsoring.
Planning Commission Minutes -10- October 13, 1993
Commissioner Melcher noted that the Commission had approved an application at
the September 22 Planning Commission meeting regarding land use only to allow
an administrative and office use at the southeast corner of Arrow Route and
Red Oak Street. He said he had since learned that the applicant was pursuing
a San Bernardino County Social Services facility for the location. He
expressed concerns that the Design Review process might be bypassed because it
would be a County facility. He requested that staff attempt to find out if
the City could retain control.
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Brad Bullet, City Planner, announced that on November 2, 1993, a program would
be presented on Crime Prevention through Design and a bus tour of commercial
centers would be scheduled for November 4. He indicated that the
Commissioners were invited.
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Chitlea, to adjourn.
8:50 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned to a workshop immediately
following in the Rains Room regarding Development Review, Building X, at the
Terra Vista Town Center.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes -11- October 13, 1993