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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regulars Meeting
June 28, 1989
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho 'Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at :CC P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 9161. Base 'Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the Pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT': David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitioa, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel
ASSENT: Peter Tblstoy
STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, Brad Buller, City
Planner; On Coleman, Senior Planner; Tony Orahn,
Assistant Planner, Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer,
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, '
Assistant: Planner, Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil
Engineer, Russ Maguire, City Engineer, Cindy Norris,
Assistant Planner, Gall Sanchez, Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that staff had received a telephone call
from the applicant for items F and G, requesting a one month 'continuance to
July 26, 1989.
Mr. Buller announced that the applicant for Item H had requested a continuance
to July 12, 1988.
Mr. Buller announced that Carlton Lightfoot, Superintendent of Ctianda School
District, had telephoned staff and requested a continuance of Item N to July
12 1989, because of illness.
Chairman McNiel announced that Commissioner Emerick was leaving the Commission
because he was moving from ;the area. Chairman McNiel presented a Resolution
of Commendation to Commissioner 'Emerick to thank him for his service to the
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Emerick thanked the Planning Commission and stated he felt the
Commission was a good Commission and that staff exhibited a lot of dedication
and worked many extra hours in support of the Planning Commission.
Chairman McNiel announced that Betsy Weinberger had been selected as the new
Planning Commissioner.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, approved with Emerick
abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of May 31, 1989, as
amended.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously approved, to
adopt the minutes of June 14, 1989, as amended.
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 89-02
-BLACUM-N-10MES, INC. - A- request'I I to pre-zone approi-imaidly 75--aFre—s-57
vacant land I66&te'd at the northeast corner of Highland and Rochester
Avenues to a density of Low Residential (2-4 dwelling units per acre) -
APN: 225-152-01, 02, 03, 04, & 18. (Continued from June 14, 1989.)
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 89-03 BLACKMON HOMES,
approve a-0-e- T_ --A 6 t
'Ppr t
r&qu_6st a ve opmen greement or appr x1ma matey
acres, consisting of 78 lots at approximately 3.2 dwelling units per acre,
located on the northeast corner of Highland and Rochester Avenues - APN:
225-152-01, 02, 03, 04, & 18. (Continued from June 14, 1989.)
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 89-02 and
Environmental Assessment and Development Agreement 89-03 to July 26, 1989.
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT J 1< LEWIS HOMES - A
div i si ew-- --of 118 co 0 um-----g
re--s-i-d-e--n-t-iat-l'--suib----"—on a ign rev mi nT on lots
and 8 single family lots on 9.07 acres of land in the Medium Density
Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) within the Terra Vista
Planned Community, located at the southwest corner of Terra Vista Parkway
and Milliken Avenue - APN: 1077-091-34. (Continued from June 14, 1989. )
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13351 to July 12, 1989.
N. ETIWANDA SCHOOL DISTRICT'S REQUEST TO ABANDON PROPOSED ACCESS BETWEEN THE
w—YR-TUEMERMY SCHOOL ANDTffEGREEN9n-T-?WM,
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
continue Etiwanda School District's Request to Abandon Proposed Access between
the Caryn Elementary School and the Greenbelt Paseo to July 12, 1989.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 13662 LEWIS HOMES The design review of building
evations an etai e site p an' or T portion of a previously approved
Tentative Tract Map consisting of 26 'single family lots on 3.4 acres of
land within the Terra Vista Planned Community in the Medium Density
Residential District ( -14 dwelling units per acre) , located on the
southeast corner of Haven Avenue and Baseline Read - APN: 1077-101-5 .
B. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 1 664 LEWIS HOMES - The design review of
bui ing e evations and etai e site pan cr a previously approved
Tentative Tract Map consisting of 24 single family lots on 2.26 acres of
land within the Terra Vista Planned Community in the Medium Density
Residential District ( -14 dwelling units per acre) , located on the
northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Church Street - APN: 1077-091-15.
C. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE' TRACT 13566 - CARYN DEVELOPMENT -' A request
or an extension a previous y approvea Te55Mt Fact ap consisting
of 154 single family ;lots on 67.8 acres of land in the Low Density
Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre) within the Etiwanda
Specific Plan, located at the southwest corner of Summit and Almond'
Avenues - APN 6-1110 .
.` TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13304 - LEWIS HOMES - The total
eve opm nt o a Fesiaential s55diMi6n of 59 lots on 11.13 acres located
in the Low-Medium Residential District (4-8 dwelling units ;per acre)
within the Terra Vista Planned Community, located on the northwest corner
of Terra Vista Parkway and Mountain View Drive - APN: 7-151-13.
E. VARIANCE g-C1 - LAND - A request o construct a trellis structure in the
fro
nt yar , al encroaches six feet into the front :yard setback at 6465
Jasper Street - APN: 106 -61-6 .
Commissioner Emerick requested that Item E be pulled from the Consent Calendar
for discussion.
Motion. Moved by Blakesly, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
adopt items A through 0 of the Consent Calendar.
VARIANCE 89-01 - LAN
Commissioner Emerick asked that the Planning Commission reconsider their
decision on granting the Variance. He did not feel the Planning Commission
could make the necessary findings to ,justify granting a Variance. He felt the
main justification was that the Commissioners liked the architectural
feature. He did not feel there were any distinguishing features from other
houses in the neighborhood.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
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Julie lung, 6465 Jasper Street, Rancho Cucamonga, asked the Commissioners to
grant the Variance.
There were no further public comments.
Chairman McNiel stated he supported the Variance request because the house was
basically unattractive among a number of like homes. He felt that strict
interpretation of the law would not afford the City the opportunity to allow
residents to dress up their houses. He felt the addition would improve the
neighborhood because it would draw attention away from the four-car garage '
doors.
Commissioner Cmerick asked how the Commission would distinguish if another
applicant proposed an addition that would also encroach but was not so
attractive. He felt that if the Commission wanted to allow the trellis, the
Development Code should be amended to allow encroachment into front yard
setbacks by 6 feet.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the Variance process was in place to protect
neighborhoods from unsightly additions and buildings built up to the street.
She felt the trellis mould improve not only the tang's house, but also the
streetscape, She ;felt so long as there were not any undesirable elements, the
Planning Commission should approve the Variance:
Commissioner Emerick felt that if architecture was the criteria for granting
the Variance, then all other houses in the neighborhood had the same
architecture. He did not feel the home was unique enough to provide for
granting the Variance.
Chairman McNiel stated he did not feel; there were that many houses in the City
that were unsightly.
Commissioner Blakesley concurred with Commissioner Emerick in not being able
to make the necessary findings to support the Variance. He felt that part of
the problem was that the Commission was looking at a structure that was
partially completed, and if the City had looked at the structure prior to
construction, they would probably have asked the applicant to move the
structure behind the setback.. He felt that granting the Variance might
encourage others to build first and apply later. He indicated he would prefer
to abstain from voting.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that an abstention would be counted
with the majority vote, and would therefore count as an aye.
Brad Buller, City, Planner, stated that if the vote was 2-2, there would be no
action and the floor would be open for another action, perhaps to continue the
item.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the Code should he amended to allow greater
flexibility.
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Chairman McNiel felt the Code already had sufficient flexibility and he did
not wish to amend the code.
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Commissioner Emerick asked Mr. Hanson if the City had enough factual findings
to sustain the Variance.
Mr. Hanson Mated that he was not the weigher of facts. He said that when a
Variance is adopted without the findings of uniqueness and hardship, it
becomes a precedent; but where uniqueness is found, the Variance does not set`
precedent.'
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Chairman McNiel stated that if the 'Development Cone were amended to allow
encroachment within 6 feet,; then that right would be granted to all under the
Code. He stated that since the setback on the subject property was 32 feet,
the structure would still be 26 feet from the curb.
Commissioner Emerick stated he was not in favor of the Variance because he did
not think necessary legal findings could be made with respect to hardship and
uniqueness.
Commissioner Chitiea felt a;point of record should be made that the ;setback is
ouch duper than on many other properties and an encroachment of B feet would'
still be back farther than many other houses in the City.
Motion. Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakeley, to deny Variance 89-01.
Motion Failed by the following vote®
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERICK
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MOIL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOL TOY -failed
Motion: Moved by Chiie , seconded by McNiel, to continue Variance 89-01 to
July 12, 18 . Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: TOLTOY carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
I . OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DESIGN
REVIEW - - UN V R L n env irdn nta ,na y is o' the.
proposed deve op nt _oT 38 apartment units i on 3.15 acres of land in the
Medium Residential District 8-14 'dwelling units per, acre) , located on the
the north side of Arrow Highway opposite Ramona, avenue - ARN: 08- 11-0 ,
0 , 21, & 24. Associated with this is Tree Removal Permit 9-28.
(Continued from June 14, 1989.)
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Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report, a letter from
applicant John Liao, a letter from residents Mike and Linda Cutillo, and a
letter from Elma St. John, on behalf of Village Park Homeowners'
Association. Mr. Liao's letter stated they would be willing to build
condominium units and requested that the requirement for an E1R be waived. He
also agreed to reduce the density to 36 units and allow 9874 Arrow Route to be
designated as a Landmark. The Cutillo letter agreed that condominiums for
individual sale would reduce neighborhood opposition to the project and
requested that only single family homes be allowed in the area in the
future. The letter from the Homeowners' Association objected to the project
on the grounds of increased
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Michael Cutillo,; 988 Alpine, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that at the
neighborhood meeting on June 1.9 the developer spoke about apartments and at
the end of the meeting finally said he would consider condominiums. He stated
that the residents did not feel the developer intended to build condominiums'
and he requested that the project not be allowed to proceed until the request
for the revised parcel map for condominium subdivision was processed.
Chairman McNiel stated that the designation was for 814 dwelling units and
the City could not guarantee that condominiums would remain condominiums and
would not be used as rentals;
Mr. Cutillo - stated that the number of rentals could be controlled by a
Homeowners ' Association.
Joe Monelongo, 9718 Placer Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he works for the
post office. He said that he drives down Arrow ;four times per day and traffic
is bad. He wanted to know how to rezone the area for single family
residential . `
Kathy Griset 9869 Placer Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she had spoken with
the developer after the last planning Commission Meeting and it was her
impression he was fluctuating between condominiums and apartments because of
the extra expense required to turn the project into condominiums. She said he
build condominium project and
told her that if he went to the expense to �l p J
still had the extra expense of the E1R, it would be a hardship. He told her
n E1R he would build
him in not.. requiringa_ _
t t f the residents supported_
condominiums.
Gail Petty, 8547' Clubhouse, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she represented the
Village Park Homeowners' Association, and that they were opposed to apartments
because' they felt the recent addition' of apartments in the area had;
contributed to an increase in crime and increased traffic. She stated they
wanted condominiums with a Homeowners' Association to govern them.
Lester Keefman, 9859 Alpine, Rancho Cucamonga, felt that traffic corning from
Ramona to Arrow is excessive and that apartments would 'decrease surrounding
property values. He wanted the area rezoned and stated a traffic 'signal was
needed.
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Russ Burroughs, 9722 Placer Street, Rancho Cucamonga, was concerned that
would I t t Archibald.1 apartme�rts pu b built e way,. ch d. wanted to know how to
have the area designated as a park and asked how the City decides where parks
are placed.
Chairman McNiel stated the City attempts to place parks' wher they will be
able to best serve the community, but the location is also constrained by
where the City can economically purchase the land. He said that since City;
incorporation over 300 acres of park land have been designated.
Mr. Burroughs wanted to know if that was enough to keep up with City growth.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the General Plan does designate park sites
sufficient to meet the growth; however, the Planning Commission is not the
Commission that is charged with the responsibility of actual location and
design of park sites. He said the Parks and Recreation Commission designates
all locations for parks,
John Liao, applicant, stated he was willing to work with the neighbors for a
solution. He said he was swilling to build condominiums,: but to do so would
take money and time. He said if he also had to prepare an CIR, it would be a
hardship; and if he did not have the expense of preparing an CIR, he .would
definitely build condominiums.
Mr. Cutillo stated that at the neighborhood meeting Mr. Liao said he would
send a letter to the City stating he would build condominiums, and he asked if
that letter had been received.
Ms Norris responded that it had been received. ;
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated that the community was growing and as a result there
would be more traffic on Arrow Route; but that Arrow Route was going to be
widened, and that would mitigate the traffic concerns. He asked when the
widening would occur.
Buss Maguire, City Engineer, stated it would be widened to 4 lanes with
signals at Hermosa and upgraded signals at Archibald and Haven, with
construction probably complete within 10-12 months.
Chairman McNiel stated that it would appear that this project and the street
widening would be constructed in the same time frame. He felt came in
apartments is largely related to open carports; and as this project proposed
enclosed garages, it should alleviate some of those problems.
Commissioner Emerick stated the issue before the Commission this evening was
whether the Commission thought there would' be a significant enough impact to
require an EIR. He said than if there was substantial public outcry, a
focused 'CIR should be required, but he did not feel a focused CIR would answer
any questions, as the items have already been addressed.
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Commissioner Chitiea asked what areas would be addressed in a focused EIR.
Commissioner Emerick stated it could address aesthetics,' crime, and traffic
impact, '
Commissioner Chitiea stated that traffic as it exists today is a problem, but
that the process was underway to alleviate the problem, and the project as
presented with a reduction to 36 units should not require a focused EIR. She
felt the aesthetic issue should be handled at Design Review. She stated that
if the surrounding residents were comfortable with condominiums, she did not
feel a focused EIR should be required regarding crime. She did not feel the
school impaction would be changed whether the project was condominiums or
apartments. She felt the residents' concerns would be alleviated by charging
to condominiums.
Commissioner Blakosley stated he ;had not heard anything that would lead him to
believe that an EIR would cause him to consider the project any differently.
Chairman Mc Niel concurred that an EIR should not be required because`
mitigation measures were already being taken.
Ralph Manson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that the Commission could find that
there would' be no significant environmental, impacts that could not be
Declaration would be appropriate '
mitigated and that Negative ec ppriate for the
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project.
MrBuller suggested that the applicant withdraw the application for
apartments and resubmit it with the condominium map.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, to find that there would be
no; significant environmental impacts that could not be mitigated, and
therefore a 'Negative Declaration would be appropriate for consideration with
the submission and review of the condominium project. Motion carried by the
following vote:
G AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CMITIEA, E ERICA., MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. TOLSTOY -carried
B: O P.M. Manning Commission recessed.
8. 6 P.M. - Planning Commission reconvened.
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J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL ;USE PERMIT 89-=12 - VICTORY
BAPTIST CHURCH - A request to establish a church in two eilll ting ' ui dings
totaling 5,1r6 square feet on 1.08 acres of land in the Low Residential
District (2-4;dwelling units per acre) , located at the northwest corner of
Bowen Street and Baker Avenue - AP : 207-531- 1 & 50.
Tour Crahn, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing; and hearing no testimony, he closed
the public hearing.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she agreed with the staff that the use would not
impact the neighborhood, and she supported the use.
Chairman McNiel agreed that it was a good use for the community.
Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerck, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit ' 9-1 . Motion
carried by the following votes
AYES: COMMISSIONERS. RLAKESLEY, CNITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried
K. MODIFICATION TO TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11934 - L. A. CRANCO - A request to
c a ge Tentative Parcil R 11914 to entati e Parcel Map 12573, a
subdivision of 2.72 acres into 2 parcels, located on the east side of
Archibald. Avenue, , approximately 150 feet south of Lemon Avenue - APN:
201-252-0 .
Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. She also
presented a letter from Pfeiler & Associates Engineers, original project
engineers, requesting that the change not be approved, because they maintained
they had not been paid by L. A. 'Chanco for work performed. Ms. Krall stated
she had spoken to the City Attorneys, who felt it would not he a problem to
change the number and that the matter between Pfeiler and the applicant was a
civil natter in which the City should not get involved.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Tom Orahn, Assistant Planner, stated he had spoken with the applicant earlier
in the day and the applicant was in agreement with the staff 'report and the
Resolution, as the Resolution included the original conditions.
Hearing no furthers testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that the ratter between Pfeiler and
the applicant was a private matter of debt collection.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that as there were no adverse impacts to the City,
she supported the change.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Modification to Parcel Map 11934. Motion carried by the following
vote;
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: GLAKESLEY, C ITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TULST Y carried
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88a-41 - RYUER TRUCK
NT L, INC. - he eve opment o a truck renta ,' easing, an maintenance
facility with' retail sales of moving supplies, consisting of 4 buildings
totaling 23,296 square feet on 8.2 acres of land in the General Industrial '
District (Subarea 14) , located at the northwest corner of 4th Street and
Santa Anita - APN. 229- 1- 6 & 07.
Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and suggested
revision of the conditions to provide that the canopy for the gas island be
constructed with a stucco finish to match the buildings, allow' a delay in the-
utilities undergrounding until 90 days after completion of the 4th Street
bridge with security posted, and add additional standard conditions'. He also
advised that the actual square footage was 27,428 instead of 23,396.
Commissioner Blakesley' asked why the landscaping was being deferred on 4th
Street. `
Mr. Abbott explained that Day Creek Channel is currently, subject to overflow
to the north of the site and Phase I of the landscaping has fewer trees to
allow water and debris to flog through the property; unimpeded. In Phase II,
after the flood control improvements, additional landscaping would be
installed because water would no'longer be directed across the site in a flood_
situation.
Chairman McNiel asked the time frame on the completion of Geer Creek Channel .
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the second phase should be completed by
December 1990.
Chairman McNel opened the public hearing.
Paul Kalvaitis, Project Engineer, stated he was responsible for the design and
construction. He introduced Ty Thompson, District Manager for Ryder Truck in
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Commissioner Chitiea stated that because the three service bays face the
street, she would prefer the gate at the central drive area on Santa Anita be
electronically opened and closed as trucks enter instead of having the gate
remain open throughout the day. She felt the balance of the project was well
done and appreciated the administrative office having been 'located on the
corner at 4th Street.
Commissioner Emerick stated he was in favor of requiring textured driveways
and the additional trees because of the elevated freeway corridor.
Commissioner Blakesley felt the 'trees would break up the pavement and soften
the building. He had concerns regarding the textured pavement and was willing
to eliminate the textured paving on Santa Anita.
Chairman McNiel felt that a broom finish with tint would be acceptable for the
textured paving.
Commissioner Emerick concurred.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred and felt that additional trees' in the parking
lot were necessary.
Commissioner Blakesley agreed that the bays on Santa Anita should be screened.
Commissioner Emerick concurred that a mechanized' sliding gate ' would be
appropriate.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Dalmau stated that a mechanized gate` takes several 'minutes to open and
felt there might be a safety hazard as trucks queued up on the street,
Chairman McNiel asked how many large trucks would, use the` facility per day,
G Mr. Thompson stated probably 50 trucks per day, up to 60 feet long, would.
arrive for fuel and maintenance, 'but the trucks would be entering the northern
gate and exiting the gate across from the bays.
Chairman McNiel felt that as the gate was to be an exit gate there was no
reason it could not be normally closed, and opened only to allow' trucks to
exit.
Mr. Calmau stated that the original design of the building did not call for
split face blocks, but they were added -because the building would be visible
through the open gate. ' He asked if split face block 'could be deleted with the
installation 'of a sliding gate.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea felt that architecturally the building needs to be pulled
together and split face block should be utilized. She supported the project
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with the addition of a sliding gate and was willing to allow the enriched
paving to be approved by the City Planner,
Motion; Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 8-41 with
modifications to require a mechanized sliding gate at the southerly Santa
Anita exit, provide that the canopy for the gas island be constructed with a
stucco finish to match the buildings, allow a delay in the ' utilities
undergrounding until 90 days after completion of the 4tb Street bridge with
security posted, and add the additional standard conditions proposed by
staff. Motion carried by the following vote;
AYES. COMMISSIONERS. 6LAESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried
NEW BUSINESS
M. MODIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-60 - BARTON - A request to utilize
corrugated stee ox roof screening material on a previously approved and
constructed industrial building 'totaling 13,812 square feet within an
approved industrial complex, comprising 11 buildings totaling 125,260
square feet on 8.43 acres of land in the General ' Indutrial District
(Subarea; 8) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at 10723 Bell Court -
APN 209-14 - 5.
Steve Hayes,; Assistant Planner, presented the staff report*
Commissioner Blakesley asked why the applicant objected to using "mineret"
cement board.
Mr. Hayes responded the applicant objected because of the weight.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that "mineret" was ' originally approved
because' it could be painted to match buildings and it was felt that the
heavier material would have more stability.
Commissioner Emerick asked to be shown where the roof screen would be located
on the footprint of the building.
Mr. Hayes responded that it would be located on the west side of the building,
approximately 3-4 feet above the parapet.
Chairman McNiel asked why no roof screen was approved at the time the building
design was approved.
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Mr. Hayes responded that originally the architect felt the roof mounted
equipment weld be screened by the parapet.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Roger Jaska, Martin J. Jaska, Inc., Mated the building was to be their new
corporate office. He stated site studies were done of the roof during the
design stage` and they felt that the roof mounted equipment could only be seen
past the cul -de-sac. He stated it was an industrial building in an industrial
area and people ' would be 200-300 feet array before they could see' the
material . He stated they proposed using steelox because if is a product they
distribute throughout Southern California and 'they have the material . He
stated the product is lighter weight and only needs; to be supported every 14
feet. He said they wanted to demonstrate that it is a good product. He
stated they oppose "minaret" board because it is a proprietary product.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Emerick stated he had been at Design Review and he remained
neutral.
Commissioner Chitiea felt that aesthetically the material should be compatible
with the design of the building. She did not think- a color change would be
appropriate. She felt roof' equipment should be screened from all sides. She
felt that a ;support structure every 1.4 feet would not be adequate with the
winds in the area and thought "minaret" board would be a more appropriate
material.
Commissioner Blakesley concurred.
Chairman McNiel stated that the purpose of screening roof-mounted equipment is
to have it blend in with the building. He felt the screening material should
be similar to "minaret"' cement board.
Commissioner Emerick stated he concurred.
Chairman McNiel invited Mr. Jaska to comment.
r. Jaska stated that they had always intended to paint the screening material
to 'match the building. He said he was certainly aware of the wind 'factor, as
he had built' $ 0,000, 00 worth of buildings in Rancho Cucamonga. He stated
his other alternative was to go out and buy plaster board to satisfy the
architectural requirements.
There were no further public comments.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the requirement was to screen the
equipment. He stated that since the Commission denied the use of the steelo ,
it was up to the applicant to return to Design Review with an acceptable`
material'.
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
U. DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS
Commissioner Chitiea suggested that if Commissioner Blakesley returned to the
Residential Committee, it would allow Commissioner Weinberger an opportunity
to work on both committees as an alternate.
It was the consensus of the Commission that Commissioners Chi iea and Tdlstoy
would remain on the Commercial/Industrial Committee and Commissioners
Blakesley and McNiel would serve on the Residential Committee, with
Commissioner Weinberger serving as the Alternate, and that appointments should
return ,for consideration in August 1989.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried to
adjourn'.
g;'SU P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to a duly 6, 1989 workshop at Rancho
Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following Design Review to review plans for
Montgomery Wards.
Respectfully submitted,
Bred Buller
City Planner
Planning Commission Minutes` 5- June 28, 1989
CITY CE RANCHO C CAMON A
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
June 22, 1989
Hillside Development Ordinance Workshop;
Chairman Larry McNiel called the special workshop to order at 8 3C P.M. at the
Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga.
Roll Call
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT. David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry Mciel , Peter Tolstoy
TAPE PRESENT, Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner* Brad Buller, City
Planner, Dan Coleman,, Senior Planner; Jeff Gravel ,
Assistant Planner;; 3arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer,
Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, Cindy Norris, Assistant
Planner'
Cindy Norris gave an oral presentation describing the proposed Hillside
Development Ordinance. The presentation outlined the purpose for the
ordinance, proposed review 'methods, and proposed guidelines and standards,
including architecture, roadway design, fencing, density restrictions and
transfer of development rights.
The general response by the Planning Commission was favorable. They indicated
that the Ordinance as resented was comprehensive; however, the Commission
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recommended that the following be revised.
. The development should be restricted from any prominent ridgeline and
the term "prominent ridgeline" be clearly defined.
2. All development should be prohibited from slopes which are 30 percent or
greater.
3. Wording should be added to slope zone 2, (S to 7.99 percent., to state '
padding of a let may be limited, ; split level architecture may be
required subject to design review, and the criteria for 18 inch maximum
split be eliminated.
a The design criteria and graphics in Section '1 .06.100 O.8 should be
revised to insure that an improved, concrete channel be provided in any
open drainage system along with any, naturalizing treatment. It was also
suggested that provisions may be added to allow for consideration of
cross lot drainage on a larger scale if necessary to reduce on-site
grading.
5. Language should be added to the document in reference to graphic number
10, to insure that pole foundations will not be visually disruptive
where used.
6. The section on the amount of window area for a structure facing a
downhill slope contained in Section 17.06.100 4.f.2 should be
eliminated.
7. Section 17-06.1001 on Transf er of Development Rights should be
significantly revised to add further standards and restrictions to the
procedure. If possible, the City may want to designate appropriate
donor or receiver parcels, or both, through a Development Agreement
and/or Specific Plan process.
8. The idea or word "scar" should be added to the purpose, and intent
section and a definition for the term should be provided.
9. The idea or terms "wildlife conservation" and "water conservation""
should be added to the purpose and intent section.
The Planning Commission decided to continue the workshop to a future date.
ADJOURNMENT
The workshop adjourned at 10:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes -2- June 22, 1989
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
June 14, 1989
Chairman McNiel called the ;Regular Meeting of :the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at ':DD P.M. The meeting was held at Lions +Park
Community Center, 9161 Base sine Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blake ley, Suzanne Ohitiea, Bruce.
Emrick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT* Node
STAFF PRESENT: Laura Bonaccorsi ,, Landscape Designer; Brad Buller, City
Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; Barryo Hanson,
Senior ' Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City
Attorney, Brett Horner, Assistant Planner; Barbara Kr•all ,
Assistant Civil Engineer, Dave Leonard, Park Project '
Coordinator; Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Beverly Nissen, '
Associate Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner; Gail
Sanchez, Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS'
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that staff was recommending continuance
on Items G, H;, and; 1, and that both applicants had agreed to the continuance,
Mr. Buller announced that Dicker Warmington Properties, developers of Terra
Vista Village Shopping Center, received an award from the International
Council of Stropping Centers for Innovative Design and Construction l of a New
Center, In turn, Dicker Warmington presented a plague to the City in
appreciation of the C'i ty's` efforts in making the center an award winning
project.
APPROVAL {1F MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, approved with Blakesley
abstaining, to approve the minutes of May 24, 1989.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 89-02 -
5LA MON 'HOMES INC. - A request to pre-zone approximate Ty_- 25 aci:eT of Auk
vacant land 1:ftciie'dat the northeast corner of Highland and Rochester
Avenues to a density of Low Residential (2-4 dwelling units per acre)
APN: 225 152-01, 02, 03, 04, & 18® (Continued from May 24, 1989. )
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 9-03 - BLAC MON HOMES
INC. - Areuest to approve a Dev opment greement dr approximately 25
acres, consisting of 78 lots at approximately 3.2 dwelling units ;per acre,
located on the northeast corner of Highland and Rochester Avenues - APN:
225- 52-01, 02, 03, 04, & 18. (Continued from May 24, s1989. )
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H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1351 LEWIS HOMES - A
resi entia subdivision and design review o D condominiums on 5 lots
and 8 single family lots on 9.07 acres of land in the Medium Density
Residential District ( -14 dwelling units per acre) within the Terra Vista
Planned Community, located at the southwest corner of Terra Vista Parkway
and Milliken Avenue'' - APN: 1077-091- 4 (Continued from May 24 1989. )
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental ,Assessment and Development District Amendment D -02,
Environmental Assessment and Development Agreement 9-03, and Environmental
Assessment and Tentative Tract 13351 to June 28, 1989.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13613 - BERRY - The Design Review of
6511ai6g elevations -a-n'-d--d—e-tfi-T6-d--Sft—i- p-l-a-n- --fo—r a previously approved
Tentative Tract Map consisting of 6 single family lots on 1.69 acres of
land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre),
located on the west side of Hellman Avenue, 900 feet south of 19th Street
- APN: 22-01-65.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 -09 - SHARI - The
eve o exit o an office and warehouse building tote i ng 4, 60 square
feet on 0.53 acres of land in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 7) o
the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on the west side of Maple Place
between Elm Avenue and Arrow Route - APN: 200-351-64$
C. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACTS 13542 AND 13542-3 - GRIGSBY DEVELOPMENT
he es�gn review o buy ding ev- ons and detai e site p an for a
previously approved Tentative Tract consisting of 80 single family lots on
26.76 acres of land in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units `
per acre) , located north of Banyan; Avenue, west of Deer Creek Channel -
APN. 201-191- 1 and 22.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by 3akesley, unanimously carried, to
adopt the Consent Calendar.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-07 - A AME -' The
request to esta is a sown dwelling unit on a M55 fiffi17-y-To—t in the
Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre),
located at 5254 Galloway Strut - APN: 1061-061- 0. (Continued from May
10, 1989. )
E. VARIANCE 89-0 - ADAME - A request to satisfy the Development Code
requirement an enc oed garage space by constructing a carport for a
second dwelling unit on a single family lot in the Very Low Density
Residential District (less than 2 dwelling ; units per acre), located at
5 54+ Galloway Street - APN. 1061-061-10.
Commissioner Chitiea excused herself from hearing the item because her house
is located within 300 feet of the property.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
George Gulick, 50 Galloway, Rancho' Cucamonga, stated he represented Joe
Ad " e. He stated it ;would be difficult to put in a permanent structure
because of the slope.
Hearing no further' testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner issioner Tolstoy stated that after viewing the project site he agreed it
would be difficult to erect a building because of the terrain. He supported
the Variance.
Commissioner dlakeley felt the carport could provide the same function as a
garage.
Chairman McNiel Mated he had visited the site and spoken with the
applicant. He felt a carport would be acceptable and said the applicant had
indicated they would be using the 'same material on the carport as the house.
Commissioner Blakesley stated thecul-de-sac street served only three
properties and afforded more curbside space than found on most cul-de-sacs.
Motion. Moved by Emer°ic , seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolutions
appro,ving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use at 9-
O7 and
Variance 9-0 , Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEV, EME ICK, MCNIEL, TCLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE ;
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS; CHITIEA -carried
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I. OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE EN IRINMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DESIGN
REVIEW - 7 - N R R PERT E - An nvirbnmenta ana yss o the
proposed dev06pr nt o X apartment units on 3.15 acres of land in the
Medium Residential District -14 dwelling units per acre) , located on the
the north side of Arrow Highway opposite Ramona Avenue - APN: l - 11-0 ,
04, 21, & 24. Associated with this is Free Removal Permit g- .
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report and reviewed CEA
guidelines. She presented a letter from John Liao of Universal Properties
contesting the need for a separate >Environmental Impact Report (EIR) and
stating that the General Plan EIR should be sufficient.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steve Falk, project architect, felt the public should not be 'able to invoke
the demand for an EIR just because of a petition with 1.10 signatures.` He;
stated the applicant had discussed the situation with the Sheriff' s substation
and been told there had been no increase in crime in the area caused by
smaller projects. He felt ; than as Arrow Route had been designed to handle
45,000 ears per day, this project of only 38 apartment units would have a'
minuscule effect. He felt the project far exceeded the City' s development
standards and would cater to upper-end tenants.
Commissioner 'Emeri'ck asked the size of the units.
Mr. Falk stated they would be 1,000 to 1,100 square foot units with P and
bedrooms, -1/2 baths, and enclosed two-car garages.
Commissioner Emerick asked the proposed rental rates and if a market study had
been conducted to identify income groups of prospective tenants.
John Liao, Universal Properties, stated some research had been done. He
stated rents were projected to be in $N -$S5U range and income should be
$ ,4U;lonth.
Chairman McNiel stated `that 'the City had previously requested EIR' s on smaller
projects. He asked if the applicant had considered making the project
condominium units instead of apartments.
Mr. Falk stated they had considered condos, but presently were proposing
apartments.
Chairman McNiel asked if the applicant had considered lowering the density
from the proposed '12*0 dwelling 'units per acre.'
Mr.i Falk stated that the original proposal was for 42 units, and they had
lowered the number to '38. He said they were considering eliminating one to
two additional units because of the 'arboists report and efforts to save a
tree.
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Chairman McHiel suggested the applicant should consider an additional 10
reduction.
t f M City had design standards � t nit if they
r* Falk asked why the � u _ 14 u_
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would not approve that density. it
Chairman McHiel responded that specific site or neighborhood issues are taken
into consideration when determining density, and added that a 10 reduction in
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units would still 'be within the approved density range.
The following residents spine in opposition' to the project:
Russ Burroughs, 9 Placer Street, Rancho Cucamonga
Michael Cutillo, 9868 Alpine, Rancho Cucamonga
Joe Montelongo, 9713 Placer Street, Rancho Cucamonga
Clay Hossie, 8604 Willow Drive, Rancho Cucamonga
Herman Santos, 8672 Oak Drive, Rancho Cucamonga
Fred Hunt 8616 Ramona Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga
Wayne Schreib, 8598 Willow Drive,' Rancho Cucamonga
Brett Granfield, 8533 Willow Drive, Rancho Cucamonga
Kathy Griset, 9869 Placer Street, Rancho Cucamonga
Cicero Holland, 806 Ramona Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga
Alvin Washington, `9839 Placer Street, Rancho Cucamonga
Their concerns included increased traffic, the potential 'for increased crime
(drug dealers, burglaries, graffiti), additional children moving into the
area, overcrowded classrooms, low-income transients moving into the
apartments, the need for pans in the area, and loss of privacy and breeze.
Several people stated they would be willing to support the project if it was
changed to condominiums because they felt owners would take better care of the
property than tenants and it would afford an opportunity for people to build
equity in a home.
In addition two realtors from Tarbell Realtors, Pam Kinsey and Tom Tulley,
stated they felt the $`860 rental rate would not be ,justified in the area and
that apartments would create a lowering of property values. They both
supported condominiums.
Chairman McN el stated that the responsibility for development of schools is
with the local school districts and the state of California. He stated the
City has no control over when and hoar schools are developed. In response to
the comment on inadequate park sites in this area, he stated that pans were
planned at Bear Gulch and at Feron and Hermosa. He also stated that parks are
more prevalent in the planned communities because the developer is required to
build parks in order to develop the hundreds of 'acres. He said in other areas
developers pay money to a park development fund and when there is enough;
money, parrs are built
Mr. Liao stated ;he had heard the comments from the surrounding; neighbors
requesting condominiums instead of apartments. He felt an apartment project
would be easier to develop than a condominium. He indicated the whole
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Mr. Maguire stated it was addressed in a combination 1986/1987 report and was
being updated in a current computerized master transportation/traffic modeling
program.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the, numbers had changed to his knowledge.
Mr. Maguire responded that he foresaw no chance. He indicated that an
apartment generates approximately 8-11 trips per day, so the units would
generate 880-`400 person trips per: day, but those' numbers were already included
in the previous study.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, reiterated that the Commission was not
currently considering a project approval , nor compatibility with the
surrounding neighborhood, but was merely to determine if the project. as
proposed may have a significant 'effect on the environment. If based on the
information and the testimony heard there was substantial evidence that, the
project may have a significant effect on the environment, then an EIR would be
required under the law. If the Commission felt there would not be a
significant effect, the recommendation should be for a Negative Declaration or
a Mitigated Negative Declaration. CEQA guidelines encourage full
participation in the process with full information being disclosed' and
encourage an EIR when there is a toss up. He stated that CEA guidelines '
recommend preparation of an EIR when there is substantial public
controversy. He stated the Commissioners needed to 'ascertain if there might
potentially be significant impacts created from this project.
Commissioner lolstoy felt that since so many people came out to raise issues
with the proposed apartment project, a focused EIR should be required.
Commissioner ;Chitiea concurred.
Chairman McNiel stated that since the residents and developer had expressed
willingness to cooperate on a condominium project, it might be appropriate to
continue the item to allow; the developer to hold a neighborhood meeting to
discuss the issue further. He felt the developer might then change the
application.
Ralph Hanson stated it was up to the applicant to submit the project to the
City and it was the responsibility of the Commission to analyze the project as
proposed. He said that if the developer would like to change the application,
that would be cogent to the analysis. He stated that if the Commission felt
there would be a difference in the impact on the; environment if the units were
owner-occupied as opposed to renter-occupied and the applicant indicated he
would change his project to condominium, then a continuance might be in order.
r.' Buller suggested that if the applicant consented and the Commission wished
to continue this matter, another neighborhood meeting could occur to discuss
the potential change to condominiums.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
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Mr. Liao stated that if the residents wanted a condominium project and were
willing ;to landscape the outside of their houses, he would propose changing to
condominiums. He therefore felt a continuance would be in order.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Mr. Buller stated that if the applicant decided to propose a condominium
project, he would have to process a map to subdivide the land for sale of
ownership of the separate parcels. He said that would delay processing the
project in order to allow the processing of the map to catch up with the
current submittal .
Motion: Moved by Toltoy, ; seconded by Chitiea to continue Opportunity for ;
Public Comment on the Environmental Assessment for Design Review 88-17 to June '
8, 196. Motion carried by the following vote;
AYE'S: COMMISSIONERS: BLA .ESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL, TCLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
Mr.; Buller stated that the City would work with homeowners groups which wished
to be proactive in cleaning up or upgrading neighborhoods.
Chairman McNiel stated that housing rehabilitation funds were available
through the Community Development Block Grant program for low interest loans.
Commissioner 'Blakesley stated that concerns regarding crime and density had
been raised which` had to do with the land use issue. He stated; he would
rather drake the mistake of requiring an EIR when It may not shed any new
information than make the mistake.; of not requiring one when it would have been
appropriate® He indicated he was sensitive to the need for lower-priced'
housing.
Commissioner Chitlea stated this project was only a small part of a larger
issue. She felt the Commission may wish to consider transitional density.
8:58 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed.
g. 0 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened.
J. VARIANCE 9-01. - LA - A request to construct a` trellis structure in the
front yard, which encroaches 'six feet into the front yard setback at 6465
Jasper Street - APN. 10 -E1- 8.
Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Cale Lang, 6465 Jasper Street, Rancho Cucamonga, applicant, stated he began
the house improvements with full knowledge of City standards, realizing he
needed a Variance. He felt he was exercising his individual right to change
his property.' He felt the structure was architecturally, integrated with the
neighborhood because the tract behind his had similar ' architectural
features. He felt the structure was not detrimental to the public health,
safety or welfare. He said he was a licensed architect in California. He
stated that over twenty-four months ago his wife approached the City with a
proposed sketch of improvements to the > yard and house. He stated he <
contracted a' local contractor to begin the work even though they 'knew they
could not complete the framework or 'trellis until the City had approved a
Variance. They completed the work as far as legally permitted ' and then
submitted plains to the Planning Department. He said he showed the plans to
his neighbors and they gave favorable feedback. He presented documents
showing drawings of the trellis and color pictures of the hone. He felt that
and architect who purchased a house should be encouraged to improve the
property.
Chairman McNiel stated he felt the architecture: of the house was unattractive
because it had two double garage doors and very little house element facing
the street.
Commissioner Chiti'ea asked the proposed material for the column .
Mr. Lang' stated the columns were already in place and they were concrete. He
stated they would' remain as is and be planted' with wisteria. He proposed
painting the house gray, with the wood trim on the trellis painted to match
the trim on the house. He stated he had a petition signed by his neighbors in
support of the trellis.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick stated he liked the architecture but didn't think it wasi
n architectural question. He felt it was a planning legal question. He
agreed with staff' s assessment that there was not enough uniqueness of the
property to qualify for a Variance. He felt setbacks were required to give an
appearance of openness.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the Code provided for Variances to allow the
Planning Commission to make exceptions. He supported the Variance because he
felt it would improve the looks of the neighborhood.
Commissioner B,lakesley stated the trellis structure would impinge on the
streetscape positively. He felt that similar structures could be detrimental
to the streetscape and he therefore supported the essence of the Code which'
restricted the building of such structures. Although he felt the structure
would compliment the house he could not make the findings necessary to grant
the Variance.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated the applicable portion of the Code was in place to
prevent unsightly structures from impinging on the streetscape. She felt the
proposed structure would enhance the streetscape. She felt front courtyards
can be aesthetically pleasing and this one would be an attractive addition
which would draw attention away from the Four--car garage.
Chairman McNiel concurred. He felt the streetscape was very flat-fronted and
the trellis would enhance the streetscape.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that the structure would provide shade on a west-
facing building.
Commissioner Emerick felt it would be more appropriate to consider changing
the code and providing design guidelines where structures encroached into the
front yard setback.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to direct staff to prepare a`
Resolution of approval for Variance 89-0 for the June 28, lg g meeting.
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TDLSTDY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: BLASLEY, EMERIC
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE; -carried
K. MODIFICATION OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR PARCEL MAP' 11891 - 'DONNELL
ARM RONO BR H PARTNERS' - A request to e etc r°ai 1 road spur
service to parcel 4, P' increase the amount of 'on-site inundation area,
and (3) add an on-site retention' basin for the project located on the
south side of Arrow Route at Milliken Avenue - AP : 8-111- 3.
OLD' BUSINESS
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT' AND MODIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 -3
'D NN LL' N' PARTNERS request` to delete ray roa
spun service to parcel '41 Ancrease t e amount of on-site inundation
areas, and add an on-site retention basin for the project'located on the
south side of Arrow Route and Milliken Avenue - APN: 9-111- 3.
Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and four
conditions added at the dune D Design Review Committee meeting, including
wrought iron fencing to be used in lieu of chain link fencing along the
southern perimeter of the basin, dense landscaping to be provided adjacent to
the fence on the inside of the basin, benches and picnic tables to be provided'
within the basin to provide a usable employee plaza area, and the planting of
owable turf within the basin.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
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Jim Westling, O'Donnell , Armstrong, Brigham, & Partners,; stated they found
during plan check that they had used an incorrect assumption of the amount of
water that would be corning onto the site, necessitating an expansion of the
retention area. As they were required to provide the City with a hold
harmless clause regarding injuries in the retention basin, they preferred not
to provide furniture which would invite the public to use the area. They
preferred to keep the fenced area secure at all times. He indicated they ;were
providing patio furniture at the buildings. He also felt it should not be
necessary to landscape bath the inside and the outside of the fence.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was dosed.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he was 'a proponent of rail service, but since
the railroad had advised they could not service parcel 24, it would be
necessary to eliminate the requirement. He felt perhaps more drought
resistant material's should be considered in lieu of turf in the basin if the
area was not to be utilized as a park.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred that drought resistant materials should be
considered. She preferred to have the basin available to employees for use as
a park. She felt vines on the fence would be appropriate and sufficient to
screen the chain link fence.'
Commissioners Toltoy and Emerick concurred that it would' be an asset to the
industrial area to have the basin available to employees.
Chairman cNiel stated that it was rare that the Commission allowed chain link
fencing and he felt concrete tables would be a good trade off`. He reopened
the public hearing to allow Mr. Wostlig to; comment.
r. nestling asked if the requirement for a hold harmless agreement could be
lifted if they were forced to keep the basin open for a park. He indicated
they would not necessarily have someone on the ;property to close the gate if
it should start to rain, particularly on a weekend. He felt opening the area
as a park would be an attractive nuisance for the neighborhood on non-business
days.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if it would not be possible to keep the area locked'
and provide the employees with keys.
r. Westling responded' that: it could be done with the tenant assuming their
own liability.
Chairman McNiel reclos d the public hearing. He asked if the retention basin
was a requirement solely for a iD -year flood.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the basin was an alternative chosen by the
applicant, as opposed to building storm drains south of the project.
Commissioner Tolsto felt signs should be added behind the buildings to
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prohibit' cars from using the inundation area of the parking lot during storms.'
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Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that the City could not in good
conscience allow removal of the hold harmless agreement.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea,; seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolutions
approving Modification of Conditions of Approval for Parcel Map 11891 and
Environmental Assessment and Modification to Development Review -35 with the
understanding that a locked gate would be provided and modifications to
provide for wrought iron fencing to be used in lieu of chain link fencing
along the southern perimeter of the basin,; dense landscaping to be provided
adjacent to the fence on the inside of the basin, benches and picnic tables to
e provided within the basin to provide a usable employee plaza area, and the
planting of mowabl e turf within the basin. Motion carried by the following
vote*
AYES* COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMER CK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES* COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: carried
NET BUSINESS
M. MODIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW B -3 - NELSON - An appeal of the City
P56rrePi deETsion 'to deny the request to ete a condition of approval
requiring the payment of an in-lieu fee for landscaping within the 'I-15
Freeway right-of-way along the project frontage for 1.55 acres in the
General Industrial District (Subarea 14) of the Industrial Specific Flan,
located on the east side of Hyssop Drive, north of 4th'Street - APN: 9-
331.- .
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman' McNiel invited public comment.
Barry Mason, Young, Henrie, Humphries, & Mason, attorney for applicant, stated
they were requesting that the in-lieu fee be waived because of economic
hardship: He said the applicant could not utilize the land in the flood catch
basin until Day Creek Channel was improved, and as they could not afford to
let the land lay fallow;until the channel was improved, they were being forced
o build a smaller industrial building than originally planned. He stated
that if the in-lieu fee was not waived, the applicant would have to abandon
the project as the project would become economically unfeasible, with fees
equating 55% of the construction costs. He stated they were only developing
along a 300 foot frontage instead of the ;1,000 foot frontage' of the entire
parcel . He felt the landscaped area, would not benefit anyone. He 'felt that
because the City would not allow the use of the cater basin at this time the
applicant was being forced into a reduced use of his property for the benefit
of the City.
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Chairman McNiel stated that if the purchaser bought the property without the
knowledge that the etch basin was required;, it was not the responsibility of
the City to be sure the purchaser knew the constraints of the property.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the amount of landscaping required at this time
appeared to be an unfair burden and felt the Commission should consider
requiring the landscaping adjacent to the flood control basin at the time that
portion of the property was developed. She felt that freeway landscaping was
for the benefit of the community as a whole and would also benefit the
property owner by increasing; the value of their land.
Commissioners 3lakesley and Tolstoy agreed that the requirement for the entire
1,000 foot frontage was excessive'.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the Commission had formerly been confronted with
a similar situation where freeway frontage bordered undevelopable land.
Barre Hansom, Senior Civil Engineer, stated this property was unique and it
was also the first time a freeway on-ramp was involved.
Commissioner Emerick agreed that the amount seemed excessive.
Chairman McNiel suggested the freeway frontage adjacent to only the buildable `
ground should be landscaped and that the area to the west of the on-ramp
should not be required.
Can Coleman, Senior planner, stated that all the landscaping area was located
within the CalTrans right-of-way and would require in-lieu fees because `
CalTrans has not approved a master landscaping plan.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, suggested the Commission clarify the policy
requiring landscaping from the property lino to the first roadway, which would
be the on-ramp. He felt the in-lieu fees could be required as the property
was developed by having the developer landscape or pay in-lieu fees for the
upper portion first and then, following elimination of the basin, the
developer could complete development and at that time pay in-lieu fees or
landscape the second portion of the parcel.;
Commissioner Chitiea questioned if there was a master plan which included the
flood control basin to show how that area could be developed with parking and
access.
Chairman McNiel stated it was merely planned to be an expansion of the parking
lot into the flood control basin.
Commissioner Chitiea was concerned that if the area was not planned properly
it would never develop and the City would never have the landscaping.
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Commissioner Blakesley suggested that the in-lieu fee be proportioned to the
area developed, so that an inordinate area would not be left with the
retention basin area.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred.
Mr. Maguire stated that before the applicant could obtain wilding permits for
the first phase he would have to provide surety, guaranteeing that once Day
Creek Channel was completed, the developer would eliminate and fill the
basin. Once the basin was filled, it would be in the developer's economic
interest to utilize the land for parking so that he could further expand the
use of the building.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that the Planning Commission was
reaffirming existing policy to take the landscaping to the first roadway along
the freeway right-of'-way, and that in-lied fees should be ' collected
proportionate to the land being developed.
Ralph Manson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that the matter was brought before
the Planning Commission to appeal' a City Planner' s decision to deny a complete
deletion of the landscaping condition. He suggested the Commission make a'
motion to sustain the appeal and direct the City Planner to amend the
condition consistent with the Commission's findings*
Motion; Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to sustain the appeal of the
City Planner's decision to deny the request for Modification , to Development
Review 8 - ` and direct the City Planner to amend the condition consistent
with the Commission' s findings. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS. BLAIESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TCLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
Commissioner Emerick felt the policy should be more clearly delineated to
allow the land price to reflect more ` or less burden in the area of
landscaping.
Commissioner Rlakesley agreed that it should be predictable.
Mrs Maguire stated he did not know of any other long retention basins on
private property along the freeway corridor. He felt that a clarification of
the policy requiring landscaping along the property line up to the first
roadway was very ;predictable. He stated this property was unique because o
the retention basin and the basin would be removed within a ,year.
Chairman McNiel invited Mr. Mason to comment.
Mr. Mason stated that his client would only be developing one building and
that although some additional parking would be added to the retention basin
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regarding Phase 1 of his development, but now had received a lot of support
for the ;developed Phase 1. He felt it would be inappropriate to prohibit car
washes in the NC District and that the Conditional Use process provided enough
opportunity for review. He felt ear washes were an accepted and needed use in
the community. He stated he circulated a petition and obtained signatures of
90 of the people he approached regarding his proposed location and use. He
said that in many surrounding communities a- car wash is an approved use rather '
than a conditional use.
There were no further public comments.
Chairman McNiel felt here was a need to provide services that the community
uses; i .e., service stations, fast food restaurants, and car washes. Although
they were needed uses, the question was where they should be placed. He felt
those services needed to be placed relatively close to residences.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that so long as the use was a possibility, the ;
Commission would always deal with the "not in my back yard" mentality and the
easy way out would be to prohibit the use-, however, ; she felt there could be
appropriate mitigation measures in some locations. She felt it would be
appropriate to develop 'interim guidelines but realized the Planning Department
was short-staffed.
Chairman McNiel felt there had already been a good background of input and
interim policies could be developed rather easily.
Commissioner Blakesley felt there would not be an inundation of applications `
and that' current guidelines were sufficient.
Commissioner Chitiea felt it would be helpful to be able to give guidelines to
developers.
Commissioner Bmer ck stated that as the Commission composition would be
changing, guidelines would provide a more concrete record of reasoning.
Brad Buller,: City Planner, stated staff could prepare a Memorandum of
Understanding- of the Planning Commission' s current policy on this type of,
establishment. They could then add a future Work Program item to develop full
guidelines.
Commissioner Chitiea felt that would be appropriate to provide consistency.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was important to have; needed services in the
neighborhoods where people live, so as not to add to traffic congestion as
individuals seek needed'' services.'
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to prepare a Memorandum of
Understanding> outlining current policy and add a future Work Program item to
develop full guidelines.
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Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
continue the meeting beyond 11:00 P.M.
11:00 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed
11:10 P.,M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
P. COURTESY REVIEW OF VICTORIA GROVES ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Brad Buller, City Planner, discussed the changes made to the site plan,
including the driveway location, height of fence, fence material to wrought
iron, and earth tone colors for compatibility with the neighborhood. He
stated that the roof was still metal. He said the plans had already been
processed through the Office of the State Architect and ground breaking had
taken place. Therefore, any change in structure would require resubmission,
which could delay construction and potentially mean a loss of construction
funds. He questioned if the Commission had a preference between split face
fluted block vs. slump block for the retaining wall . He stated the school
site had green open space but the fields were not large enough to support
legitimate organized soccer, softball, or little league fields. He suggested
that the school not place backstops facing the City Park, as such a placement
would encourage users to transition the sidewalk bordering the park, which
could be hazardous.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that as the school was being built in a
residential neighborhood, he would like to see the landscaping bermed up next
to the parking lot to mitigate the view of the parking lot. He asked if most
elementary schools had playing fields.
Mr. Buller stated that most schools have backstops but he was told by the
School District that they were not required to have backstops, only open
space.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that if the school site were larger, it could
accommodate playing fields. He felt it should be recommended that school
sites be larger in the future.
The other Commissioners concurred that school sites should be large enough to
accommodate standard size playing fields.
Mr. Buller stated the school could place backstops that would orient away from
the sidewalk.
Chairman Mc Niel asked the gross acreage of the school and the adjacent park.
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Cave Leonard, Park Project Coordinator, stated it was approximately 14 acres
combined, 7 acres each.
Mr. Buller stated a normal elementary school is approximately 10 acres, and
pare are a minimum 5 acres.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Dick Kemp, school architect, agreed- to berg the landscaping between the
parking lot and the street and stated he was available to answers questions.
Commissioner Chitiea stated ;she felt the fence at the kindergarten play yard
should be a minimum of 4 feet on top of a 3 foot retaining wall because even
at that height balls would bounce over the fence into the street. She also
wanted landscaping to be added by the fence to give a sense of buffering from
the street noise.
r. Kemp stated they could landscape around the periphery of the kindergarten ;
play yard to help cut down on the noise.
Commissioner Chitiea did not feel a metal roof was compatible with the
neighborhood.
Mr. Kemp stated they had only installed the roofs on three schools and ;each
time they had complaints because the children climbed on the roofs and broke
tiles. He stated that a metal roof is too slippery for the children to climb
on.
Commissioner 'Cmerick asked if there were any locations in the design of the
building that would allow the children to have access to the roof.
Mr. Kemp responded there were not.
Commissioner Crerick felt that the the roof would not be a problem in that
case.
Mr. Kemp said that the weighs 8 pounds per square foot and metal weighs 1
pounds. Therefore, the structure would need to be redesigned in order to
accept the weight` of a the roof, which would necessitate resubmitting the
plans to the Office of the State Architect. He said Sacramento was running
out of coney' and if the building was not funded at this time, it would be
delayed at lust 1- ,years.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if neighborhood greetings had been held when they
were first planning the project.
Mr. Kemp stated here was a' planning 'group' which included parents,' teachers,
and citizens, but the neighborhood had not been built as yet.
Chairman McNiel stated the Commission was focusing on the metal roof because
there were several in the City that were ugly and peeled after about 8®10,
years
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Mr. Kemp stated the roof they were planning to use was guaranteed against
fading or peeling for 20 years. He said they originally proposed a copper
roof, but the price was prohibitive.
Commissioner Chitiea thanked Mr. Kemp for allowing the Planning Commission to
comment on the plans. She hoped in the future the Commission would be
approached earlier in the process.
MrKemp stated he would be happy to do so on future projects.
Chairman McNiel requested that a the roof be considered if the school was not
funded at this time. Even though he felt the metal roof was not compatible in
the residential neighborhood, he did not want to slows down the building
process.
Commissioner glakesley concurred.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed that the roof material should' be reviewed if the
school was not funded at this time, but allowed the might not necessarily be
the best roof.
Chairman Mc4iel felt split face' fluted block was a better choice for the
retaining wall as opposed to slump block.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the wall should be consistent with the school, which
used split faced fluted block instead of trying to match` the 'slump block o
the neighboring homes*;
r. Kemp stated that split faced fluted rock was more durable and easier to
replace.
There were no additional public comments.
Chairman McNiel concluded that he hoped that the School District would
consider the Commissioners' comments and that he looked forward to seeing the
next school project earlier in the design process.
C. REVIEW OF COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT CAPITAL PARK IMPROVEMENT UDGET
1989-90 AND
Cave Leonard, Park Project Coordinator, presented the staff report.
grad Buller, City Planner, stated the budget was presented to the Commission
to see if they found consistency with the General Plan.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked why the City had to renovate so+ many playing fields
in the park. He wanted to knower if they had been designed or constructed'
improperly.
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Puss Maguire, City Engineer, said there were lawsuits pending regarding design
and construction of Red Hill and Heritage. He said in some cases the soil was
compacted too much and in ;other cases the top of the soccer and baseball
fields have a black clay surface, with good soil 4 feet down.
Commissioner Blaesley asked if a site had been selected for a northeast
community park.
r. Leonard stated that all but 15 of the BB acre have been acquired at
Summit and East Avenue.
Commissioner Chitiea asked about the floating park site designation in
northwestern section.
Mr. Leonard stated a developer was proposing a 5 acre site rear Almond and
Sapphire.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if that would take the place of the park site that
was deleted.
r. Leonard stated it would.
Commissioner Tol stay felt there were ; not enough parks in the older parts o
the City. He wondered what was being done to address the problem.
Mr. Leonard stated infill parks were the hardest ones to acquire. He stated
the City had been working hard to try to acquire property in the southwest
section and the northwestern section of Alta Loma. He stated ` they had
approached owners in both areas, but it was economically unfeasible to
purchase the land in question.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the City was not consistent with the intent of the
first General; Plan to retrofit parks in the older areas of the City.
r.' Leonard stated that authorization to execute the :agreement for
construction of Old Town Park was on the June 21' City Council agenda.
STATUS OF FOOTHILL BOULEVARD MEDIAN ISLAND DESIGN
Laura Bonaccorsi , Landscape Designer, presented the staff report.
Brad Buller, ,City Planner, stated staff felt there was a need to process an
amendment to the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan to allow more flexibility in
the median island design. He suggested the illustration ; giving design
specifics should be eliminated and replaced with language indicating the final
design would be approved at a later date.
Chairman Mc Niel felt turf was the most attractive material for a median, but;
water, maintenance, and traffic considerations are important. He felt it was
necessary to 'look at other alternatives.
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R. GRADING ORDINANCE _ STATUS UPDATE (Oral report)
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the proposed Hillside Development
Ordinance would be presented at a workshop on dune 22, 1989. Following the
workshop, slides and a graphic presentation wound be prepared to illustrate
the provisions of the ordinance. He stated it would address the whole
development issue of footings, opens space, ,rear yard usable space, etc.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he hoped it would state that property lines should
be at the top of slopes instead of slope bottoms,
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no additional Commission business at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no additional public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
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Motion. Moped b` Tolsto seconded i b Chitiea. unanimously ousl_ carried, to
adjourn.
1 : 5 P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to a dune 22, lg g workshop at
Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following Design Review to reviews the
proposed Hillside Development Ordinance.
Respectfully submitted,
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Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCA CNA
PLANNING COMMISSION
Adjourned Meeting
May 31, 1989
Terra Vista Town Center Workshop
Chairman Larry McNiel called the special workshop to order at S 1S P.M. at the
Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga.
ROES. CALL.
COMMISSIONERS'. PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Larry
McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Bruce Emerick
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; pan Coleman, Senior Planner,
Otto Kroutil ,' deputy City Planner; Debra Meier, Staff
Consultant
Debra Meier, Staff Consultant for Terra Vista Town Center, reviewed the staff
comments and outstanding issues as outlined in the workshop comments regarding
Mervyns.
Chairman McNiel suggested that the Commission discuss each item in order on
the workshop outline.
Item No 1 The Commission had previously expressed a desire to provide a
r atIc entry into the sure and create an expression that is more than a
facade. The Commission reiterated their view in regard to this issue.
Mervyns' store representative, along with the building architect, responded
that the disruption of the typical ceiling height would conflict with their
in-store marketing strategy. They have created a new prototype that uses 10'
high fully merchandised walls.
The Commission directed the applicant to study the entry design. The
Commission would accept carrying the volume only into the entry vestibule and
not into the 'store area if properly designed. This would provide a 'drama that
would carry beyond the front doorway, providing an exciting architectural
element. The applicant was requested
stet to provide the Design Review Committee
with alternate designs to review prior to final approval.
Item No. 2 - Mr. Robert Bernstein, project architect, agreed to expand the
co 'ore concrete entry, with a grid pattern, across the driveway as an
extension of the entry plaza.
Item No. - 'The Commission accepted the angled arcade design at the two 'front
bu y ding corners.
Item No. 4 The project architect explained that the building face under the
arcs is upgraded with a 4' x 4' grid and the accents. The Commission
preferred this concept to the original grid design. The Commission also
accepted the lighting design with wall sconces and recessed ceiling lights.
Item No. 5 - The project architect explained haw the tower features on the
east an' west elevations were re-designed. The roof line now includes a'
cornice, rafter detail . The Mervyns° towers will include rafter "tails" which
is a variation of the Architects Pacifica cornice detail used throughout the
center. The Commission approved the design. The Commission requested a
decorative bevel , rather than the flat end, on the rafter outrigger. 1
The recessed accent "medallions" on each tower are proposed with a I" recess
and accent color. The Commission preferred a 4" recess for greater shadow
and dimension. In addition, the recess must bevel or step back from the
building face in a decorative fashion.
Other Details:
1. Window Mullions - The Commission accepted the medium bronze finish
or t e mu ions on the front entry of Mervyns.
. Site Furniture - The architect suggested a Dura Art Stone product for
benches, pot, and columns. He noted that this is a different`
material and ;product from the Architects Pacifica specifications.
The Commission agreed that it is an appropriate choice, as the colors<
and materials are very compatible to the voussoir and wainscott'
materials; (Conterra stone) on the building.
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o The Commission recommended that the louvers used to provide air
inside the tower should be a large size architectural louver and
be attractive as well as functional .
o The Commission agreed with the architect that the column stone
should be a light color, representative of the building stucco
color. The architect noted that the column was to be a 8ura Art
Stone product. The Commission requested a double thin cap and
traditional base design, as was depicted on the architect's'
rendering.
4. Para et - The Commission requested a 211 x 4" wood plant-on with
stucco over along the back side of the roof parapet. The stucco
finish should continue on the back side of the parapet to within 1211
or 1 " of roof surface. Color and finish of back side of parapet;
shall match front side.
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S. Roof Screen The Commission did not approve the metal roof screen.
The `appl i cant was directed to use the cementboard sheeting product,
which is becoming the standard roof screen material due to its grind
resistant qualities' within the City. The sheeting should be the same
color and texture as the building wall .
Conclusion:
The Commission recommended approval of the Mervyn' s istore elevations subject
to the modifications discussed. ; These changes should be reviewed by the
Design Review Committee. If, upon review of all issues by staff, ` the
revisions are appropriate to Commission comments, a Consent Calendar review
would be acceptable.
The Commission recessed at 6:40 P.M.
The Commission reconvened at 6:52 P.M. for review of Montgomery Ward
elevations.
Debra Meier again gave an outline of staff comments that had been prepared for
this workshop.
Tory Bond, Architects Pacifica, gave the Commission an update on the project
status and the design sequence that Montgomery Ward has been through:.
Norm Abplanalp, Montgomery Ward', provided the Commission with information
regarding the concept of "Specialty Shops" that the company has developed. It
is a concept that appears to be unique to the industry at this time. He also
explained that, in contrast to the Mervyns" design, the entry height is
carried into the store and is a crucial part of their image.
At this point, Mr. Bond gave a presentation on the design scheme.
1.. Main Entry e indicated that the main entry is very tall (*50 feet)
but appears narrow' in context with the remainder of the building.
The Commission felt that it did not provide the proper transition at<
the edges of the trellis structure. The Commission suggested that
the 'side' panels near the front entry could' be broadened. Mr. Bond
agreed to study the width of the e"ntry and the roof line transition.
Another item discussed in regard to the entry was the connection to
the promenade. The architect indicated that decorative pavement will
be provided across the drive aisle as an extension of the entry
plaza. The expanded decorative pavement will tie in to the
promenade. He noted that some adjustments may need to be made to the
location of the promenade kiosk to allow the transition to occur in
the best manner. He agreed to study it.
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2. Kids Store• Mr. Bond explained that the roof line at the Kids Store
entry wi 1 include the exposed rafter tails to continue the exposed
wood theme from the entry trellis. The Commission felt that the
general concept and orientation here was acceptable. The Commission
did have a few suggestions:
o The; first archway; on the north elevation should be vision
glass. Arches should continue along the wall. The Commission
would prefer glass, but will consider alternatives.
o The Commission requested an enlarged detail of the Kids Store
entry.
o Provide landscaping adjacent to the curb to direct the
pedestrian through the arcade.
The Commission was not supportive of the yellow and purple signage
concept and the multi-color awning as presented by Montgomery Ward`
for the Kids Store.
3. Electric Avenue: Mr. Bond noted that the same exposed wood rafters'
and stone window mouldings are carried through this area, as they are
on the remainder of the Montgomery Ward building. The window;
mullions at the Electric Avenue area are teal green. The applicant
had proposed a red frame within the arch in front of the window;
however, the Commission requested that this item be teal green
also. The Commission also suggested that the metal trellis frame
should appear to "float" within the arch form.
The Commission suggested that the stone moulding continue around the
window in the tower.
The Commission discussed the importance of that corner as it relates'
to the east side of the center. Some individuals felt that the tower'
roof line did net transition properly with the ' adjacent ' shop
building. Mr. Bond will look at this relationship more closely.
a Rear Elevation. The critical concern along the rear elevation is the
proximity to the street and residential area north of Town Center
Drive. Due to this exposure, the Commission felt that the wall`
surface should be upgraded. They would consider alternatives to the
stone wainscot and 'trim, the detail should be similar to the approach
used on the Terra Vista Village. They would expect detail as good or
better for Town Center.
The Commission suggested that the parking should be located as close:
to the customer pick-up area as possible and that taller landscape'
materials in some areas along the rear elevation he incorporated.
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graphic image used on the prototype Wards T A. They reiterated
that the Wards "Specialty Shops" must conform to criteria within
the sign program and be of appropriate color and architectural
setting.
Conclusion:
The architect and Montgomery "Ward ' representatives will respond to the
Commission comments and present the solutions for final approval at a Mature
Planning Commission workshop.
ADJOURNMENT
The workshop adjourned at gP.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
May 24, 1989
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emerick, Larry
McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: David Blakesley
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer; Ralph Hanson, I Deputy City Attorney; Brett ,
Horner, Assistant Planner; Russ Maguire, Cityi Engineer;
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary;
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff and the applicant were requesting that
Items E and F be continued to June 14, 1989. He also stated that the
applicant had requested that Item G be continued to June 14, 1989.
Chairman McNiel announced that Bill Silva had accepted the position of City
Engineer with the City of San Leandro.
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 89-02 -
9CAURUN ' RUMES---T_
,x NC. A request to pre-zone approi5itfily 25 acres of
vacant land 11 ocated at the northeast corner of Highland and Rochester
Avenues to a density of Low Residential (2-4 dwelling units per acre) -
APN: 225-152-01, 02, 03, 04, &-18.
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 89-03 - BLACKMON HOMES
INC - A request to approve a deve lopmen - agreement for single family'
res nces on approximately 25 acres of vacant land located on the
northeast corner of Highland and Rochester Avenues - APN: 225-152-01, 02,
03, 04 & 18.
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1 851 LEWIS HOMES - A
residential subdivision and design rertiew of condominiums '6 lots
and 8 single family lots on 9.07 acres of land in the 'Medium Density
Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) within the Terra Vista
Planned Community, located at the southwest corner of Terra Vista Parkway
and Milliken Avenue - AN: 1077-091- .
Chairman McNel asked if anyone in the audience wished to address items E, F,
or; 0. When several members of the audience stated they were present' regarding
Item 0, Chairman McNiel asked if they could return on dune 14. They affirmed'
that they could return on June 14.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that if anyone had questions regarding
the project they could contact City staff.
Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried to
continue Environmental Assessment and Development [district Amendment 8 -0 ,
Environmental Assessment and Development Agreement 89-0 , and Environmental
Assessment and Tentative Tract 13351 to June 14,; 1989.
APPROVAL OF MINOTES
Motion. ' Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to adopt
the Minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of March 30, 1989.
Motion; Mowed by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, carried with Emerick
abstaining, to adopt the Minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of May 8, 1989.
Motion. Moved by; Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to adopt
the Minutes May 10, 1989.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87- 0 - INLAND AREA FELLOWSHIP -
A request to allow a church within an existing pre-schoolor Kids n y"
facility on 118 ages of land in the Low Density Residential District ( -
dwelling units per acre), located on the sough side of Base Line,` east
of Hermosa - APN: 1077-01-09.
B. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 85- 1 AND PARCEL MAP 998 - MASI
- The duelo ent of a Master an for a acre iWi!Ml park and
the first phase of construction, consisting of a 58, 00 square foot mini-
storage facility with a caretaker' s residence on 2.95 `acre of hand in the
Industrial Park District (Subarea 7), located at the southwest; corner o
Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue - APN: 9°-011-10, 1 , 21, 26,
7, and 28.
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C. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13566 - ' CENTURY AMERICAN The design
review of building elevations and' deti ed site ?p an ifor 75 single family
lots in a previously approved tentative tract map consisting of 154 single
family lots on 28.7 acres of land in the Low Density Residential District
( -4 dwelling units per acre) , located on the south side of 24th Street,
north of Lower Loop Road - APN 6-111�D Associated with th
is
application is Tree Removal Permit 89- 7.
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D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-01 '- BARTON DEVELOPMENT
he d ve opment of in ustri buff ings totaling square feet on
1.28 acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea 8) of the
Industrial Area Specific Plan, located at the southeast corner of Utica
Avenue and Fulton Court - APNw 9-14 -51. '
Commissioner Emerick requested that Item 8 be pulled from the Consent Calendar
because he wished to excuse himself from voting on the item, as he had been
involved in litigation on the subject property.
Commissioner Chitiea requested that Item D be pulled from the consent calendar
for discussion.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by T lstoy, unanimously carried to adopt
Items A and C of the Consent Calendar.
B. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 - 1 AND PARCEL MAP 9998 - MAST
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy{, carried with Emeric
abstaining, to adopt item B of the Consent Calendar.
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-01 - BARTON DEVELOPMENT
Commissioner Chitiea stated she wished to raise issue with the design of the
project as it was presented at Design Review. She stated that the two
Committee members could not agree on the possible addition of spandrel glass
in the entry way. She believed that this matter needs further discussion,
Ralph Hanson, Deputy ,City Attorney, stated that the issuance of a Negative
Declaration was the only action before the Commission at this time.
Commissioner Tolstoy said he was one of the Committee Members and felt the
addition of spandrel glass' would enhance the building but he was not sure it
was necessary for the type and location of the building.
Chairman Mc'iel invited public comment.
Dale Frisby, Barton Development, stated that spandrel glass was typically used
where the look of storefronts was desired, and that since this was a
' industrial building which was not visible from Haven, he felt the expense was
not ,justified. He indicated the initial cost and maintenance cost of spandrel
glass was excessive. He felt that since he was not permitted office uses, he
should not have to make his building look like an office building.
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There was no further public comment.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the issue had been brought up in Design
Review and the item could be returned to Design Review or brought back before
the Planning' Commission. He said he understood the Committee's difference of
opinion and would forward the matter back to the Design Review Committee with
options.
Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to adopt
Item D of the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT g-O
CITY DF RANCHO CU' AMONGA - An amendment to the land use definition of
"building maintenance services'" to include small operation building
contractors which meet certain criteria.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, `presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the 'public hearing. Hearing no testimony, the public .
hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the amendment was well written and the use would be
a good addition. He felt the truck definition and the prohibition of outdoor
storage would eliminate possible adverse effects.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the expanded definition might help to make more
centers' viable.
Chairman McNiel agreed that the added language rude sense..
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Commissioner Emerick felt the expanded definition might encourage some small
bu`sinessowners to move out of garages into centers.
Motion.' Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Industrial Specific Plan
Amendment Dg-O . Motion carried` by the following vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHI 'IEA, EMERICI , MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS; NONE
ASSENT:i COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried
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I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-15 - ONIGLOBE
REGENCY TR : A request to establish a trave bureau in ease space
of 2,978 square feet within an existing office 'complex on 4.24 acres of
land in the Haven Avenue Overlay District, located at 87 Haven Avenue - `
APN': 09-411 8 &. 4.
Cindy Norris Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the use determination that a travel agency is
a personal service versus a; support service. Following a brief discussion it
was determined that the issue did net need to be pursued at this time.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Geoff Meyer,; Arical Properties, Inc., property owner,% recommended approval and
introduced dim Roberts', president of dniglobe Regency Travel.
Mr. Roberts stated they were a corporate travel agency and would conduct all
of their business over the telephone.
Hearing; no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by ; Tots oy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit+ 89-1 . Motion
carried'; by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMER C , fiCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAESLEY -carried
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ;87-14
NEW HOPE--CHURCH - A request to expand an eistfing , square oot
church by , square' feet within an existing industrial park on 20.7
acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea 8), located at
95 1-A Business Center Drive` •- APN< 09-0 1.- 9.
Torn Gratin, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. `
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Sarah McAfee, 701 North Haven, 00, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she was a member
of the church and was representing the applicant. She said the church was
growing' and they needed more room.
Chairman McNiel asked if future plans included proving into their own building.
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Ms. McAfee stated that; their long range plans included moving into a building
of them own, but not for the next 3 to 5 years.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if additional fire safety items needed to be
accomplished.
Ms. McAfee stated that Foothill Fire District had visited the site and
notified the church of additional requirements. She said the church was
currently in the process of obtaining the items. She stated they would not
occupy the building until all fire safety items had been addressed.
Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tdlstoy, seconded by , Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Modification to Conditional Use Permit
87-14. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL, TQLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT* COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY -carried
OLD BUSINESS:
K. DOME OCCUPATION PERMIT 89-1 5 - DOLAN - An appeal of st 'f's decision to
deny a dome ccupation ' ermit or a multi-track recording' studio located
in the Low Density Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) at
9292 Arrow Route APN: 208- 61- 9. (Continued from May 10, 1989.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the Resolution of Approval incorporated
Commission comments raised '! t the May 10, 1989, muting.; He stated both the
Resolution of Approval and a Resolution of Denial were provided for
consideration by the Commission.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Michael Dolan, 9292 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he wished t
reassure the Commission ission that he had ample parking ;and soundproofing for the
studio and felt the use should not affect the neighborhood.
Fred Deaux, 110 Shaw Street, apposed the studio placement in a Low Density
District, and felt that it would be enticing to people in other areas to open
such operations. ' He asked that the request be denied or that hours and noise
levels be severely restricted. He felt the operation would be better suited
to a commercial area instead of a residential area.
Chairman McNiel stated the provision for code exists to allow home occupancy
permits based on certain criteria.
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Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the use was an extension of the definition of home
occupancy. She hoped the permit would not set a precedent. She indicated
that she was willing; to support the project because the site was located l
across from an industrial area and on a busy, noisy corner. She felt the
Planning Commission should review the permit if any problems arose.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the use redefined the Home Occupation concept that
he held. He felt', a home occupation should entail either no clients or at most
a maximum of t or 2. He felt the use was not appropriate for a residential
neighborhood.
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Chairman McNiel did not see the use as a redefinition.
Commissioner Emerick stated he had voted against permitting a Lamaze class in
the pant because he felt the use would create too much of 'a disturbance to the:
neighborhood. He disagreed with allowing 2 groups per day at -5 participants'
per group, and supported the denial .
Chairman McNiel felt denial would deprive the City and the applicant an
opportunity.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that after looking at the number of vehicles she
was concerned with the impact of traffic on the neighborhood.
Chairman McNiel did not feel that 5 cars; per day would cause a significant
impact.
Motion: Moved by McNiel to adopt the Resolution approving Home Occupation'
Permit 9- . There was no second.
Motion. Moved by merick, seconded by Tolstoy, carried with McNiel dissenting'
to adopt the Resolution denying Home Occupation Permit 89-1.85.
Chairman McNiel invited Mr. Dolan to comment.
r. Dolan stated he was disappointed in the decision and felt he should have
requested that Mr. Tolstoy remove himself from hearing the item, as he felt i
may have represented a conflict of interest. He stated he felt he had
presented evidence of ample protection of the neighborhood. He indicated he
would be happy to; operate with only 1 or 2 people at a time.
Mr. Buller stated' staff had drafted the Resolution based on previous Planning
Commission discussion that the number of clients be raised to up to 5 per
session;, and 2 sessions per day. He indicated the applicant had requested
approval for only 1 client per day. He suggested the Commission could act on
the applicant's request.
Commissioner Imericl stated that the number of cars affected his decision and
he would reconsider on a lesser number of vehicles. He felt the noise concern
was well mitigated.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated she was willing to reconsider her vote with a
lower number of clients.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, carried with Tolstoy
abstaining, to reconsider the action. `
Chairman McNiel asked what the limit should' be.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she would be comfortable with 2 people per session
and 2 sessions per day.
Motion: Moved by M Ni l seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Horne Occupation Permit 89-1 5 with modification to limit the number
of clients to 2 per session and 2 sessions per day. Motion carried by the
following vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHI IEA, EMERICK, MCHI L
NOES: COMMISSIONERS. TDLSTOY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS; BLAESLE -carried
8: 5 P.M. - Planning Commission recessed
8. 5 P.M. - Planning Commission reconvened.
DIRECTOR' S REPORTS:
L. THE 1989 9O AND 19 0/91 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGETS
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, presented an overview of the capital improvement
budgets.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked how priorities are selected.
Mr'. Maguire stated a City Council Resolution was passed in November 1986 which
set priorities and that was the basis used for 95'% of the allotment. The
remaining 5% of money was allotted based on reactive needs; such as finishing
out a street when the school district builds only half of the street,. He said
storm drain priorities were set by City Council directive and in the area of
traffic, safety was the first consideration.
Chairman McNlel asked if a system was in place to cover landscape maintenance
costs.
r. Maguire replied that most of the work done with Beautification Funds i
not in the Landscape Maintenance Districts, so the General Fund is used to
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crake up the difference. He indicated Regional trails came from the General
Pond and were not in an assessment district. He asked that the Commission
review plans with the ides that the City should receive a benefit from all
required landscaping. He felt low maintenance and proper construction needed
o be emphasized.
Commissioner Toltoy stated that staff should make the Planning Commission
aware of how to get items into Landscape Maintenance districts.
Chairman McNiel agreed that maintenance costs should be placed on Homeowners
Associations or in Landscape Maintenance Districts.
r. Maguire stated that certain Landscape Maintenance Districts are fast
approaching the maximum assessment allowable by City Council. He stated h
would like to get Landscape Maintenance District #1 increased.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no additional commission business at this time
COMMENTSPUBLIC
There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
9 P.M. Planning Commission Adjourned to a May 31, 1989, workshop op at
Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center at 0 P.M. to review plans for Mervyns
and Montgomery Wards.'
Respectfully submitted,
ABrad Sol r
Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMO'NGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
May 10, 1909
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at :00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 9161' Base'Line 'Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
Niel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT- David Blakesley, Suzanne Chiti;ea, Bruce
Erneriek, Larry MuNiel , Peter Tnitey
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT- Brad Roller, City Planner ; Dan iColeman, Senior Planner; ±
S rrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson,
Deputy City Attorney; Brett Horner, Assistant Planner;
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner; Dave Leonard, Park;
Project Coordinator; Betty Miller, Assistant Civil'
Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Secretary, Rill Silva, Deputy
City Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chairman Mc Niel announced that them had been a Design Excellence awards
presentation on Monday, May' O, 1989.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motions Moved by Chitie , seconded by Blakesley, carried with Toistoy
abstaining, to approve the minutes of the Adjourned `Meeting of April E, 1989,
as amended.
Motion: Moved by Tulsto, , seconded by Chitiea, approved with Blakesley
abstaining, to approve the minutes of April 26, 1989, as amended.
CONSENT' CALENDAR
A. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13114 - NOROIC - A 21 custom lot
subdivision n 5.5 acmes o and in the 'Low Residential District' 2-
delling units per acre}, located at the southeast corner o Vineyard
Avenue and Calle Del Pr do -'APN: 200-92I-0 04.
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 -43 RARASCH ARCHITECTS
- The development of one industrial building totaling 30,300 square feet
on 1.78 acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea 5) ,
located at the northeast corner of Sharon Circle,; east of Hermosa Avenue - 1
APN: 20 - - ®
C. MODIFICATION TO DESIGN 'REVIEW 11626 - 3RIMAR The request to modify an
approved site plan by i bstitutin approved Plans 3 and 1 on Lots 81 and,
82 respectively, located on the north side of Almond Street, east of Beryl ;
Avenue -=APN: 1061-821-21 & 22.
D. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 5-04 - RYDER A development
for truck rental , lease, and saps on 4.23' acres of land in the General
Industrial District (Subarea 14 of the Industrial Specific Plan, located
on the west side of Santa Anita Avenue, north of 4th `Street - APN: 229-
331-06.
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8-44 BARASCH ARCHITECTS
- The development of 3 industria buildings totaling ,45 square feet on
3.79 net acres of land' in the General Industrial District (Subarea, 2),
located south of gth Street between Lion Shoot and Hellman Avenue - APN:
209-013-24.
F. VARIANCE 89-04 - COMMERCIAL CARRIERS - A Resolution of denial of a request
to reduce the parking setback from 25 feet to 8 foot and the landscape
setback 'from 35 feet to D feet for 12 acres of land in the Minimum
Impact/Heavy Industrial District (Subarea 9), located on the south side o
Mersey Boulevard, between Utica and Vincent Avenues - APN; 205-143-0 , 08
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O. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 3 - 1 - COMMERCIAL CARRIERS - A, Resolution of
denial o a request to grade and pave appr—(Tx—imatJ—y12 ages of land for
an existing site within the Minimum Impact/Heavy Industrial District
(Subarea 9), located on the south side of Jersey Boulevard, between Utica
and Vincent Avenues - APN. 209-14 -0 , OR & 09.
Motion: Moved by,Chitiea, seconded by 3la esley, unanimously carried to adopt
the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAR 12O5D 3ARASCH
ARCHITECTS - A subdivision o 3, net acres of and into 3parcels in the
General Industrial` District (Subarea 2 , located south of 9th, Street
between Lion Street and Hellman Avenue - APN, 20 -01324.
3arrye Hanson, Senior• Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel asked why the parcels were offset on the corners.
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rr. Hanson stated they were offset to balance the parking on the different
projects.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Hearing no further testimony, the
public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Chtiea, seconded by glakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12058. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: HLA ESLEY', CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TC STCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
1. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-07 - A ±A E The:
request to establish a second dwel ing unit on a single airily lot in the
Very Lour Residential District O dwelling units per acre) , located at
5254 Galloway Street - APN: C 1® E RID.
Commissioner Chitiea excused herself from hearing the item because her house
is located within SOO feet of the property.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
George Gulick, 570 Galloway, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had power of
attorney to represent the owner, Mr. Adme. He stated Mr. Adarne was now
living in the small house and his son and daughter-in-law lived in the larger
house. Mr. Gulick objected to the proposed garage placement because he stated
it would be too costly because of grading and cement slabs in the back yard.
He felt there would not be adequate access to the proposed garage site and it
would also look unattractive. He requested that the applicant be allowed to
continue parking on the cul-de-sac street. '-
Al Hanlon, 5271 Turquoise, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he lived ;in back of the
property. He requested that Mr. Ad me be allowed to use the unwed bridle'
trail for access to the second house. He also suggested that Mr. Adame be
allowed to park his tar on the existing cement slab next to the existing'
garage. He stated the back yard of the property had several cement slabs and
it would be prohibitively expensive to put in a driveway and garage.
Fearing no further testimony, the public hearing was iclosed.
Commissioner Tol toy asked if the house could be used as a rental' when the
intended use terminated or the property changed hands.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the Resolution was presently
conditioned to allow for future potential rental . He stated the applicant had
indicated a willingness to delete the condition allowing for future rental .
Chairman Mc Niel asked if City cues required the addition of a garage for the
new unit.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that when the granny-flat provisions were
added by local ordinance, carports were allowed in single family zones. He
stated that original plans from the applicant proposed constructing a carport
on the cement slab next to the existing garage. However, the City code was
changed `in December 1983 to >require a minimum of a one-car garage for the new
unit. He stated the applicant had suggested this evening that he would like
to apply for a Variance, however, such a request would have to be
advertised. Mr. Coleman stated that staff was not recommending any driveway
connections to go back to the second dwelling unit.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if there was enough room to the south of the house
for a driveway to ;access the; back unit.
Chairman Mc i el stated that the terrain would preclude having a driveway in
the area.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt the intended use was acceptable but he was
uncomfortable with allowing the use to change to a rental.
Commissioner Emerick felt a Variance would be necessary.
Commissioner Nlakesley supported restricting future rental possibilities.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the Commission would consider a carport in lieu
of a garage. He wanted to know if a carport could architecturally be blended-
into the house.
Chairman McNi el suggested that the item be continued until dune 1.4 to allow'
the applicant to apply for a Variance and have the Commission hear both
requests concurrently.; He reopened the public searing to allow the, applicant
to comment.
Mr. Gulick stated they would like to continue the item and apply for a
Variances
Chairman McNiel asked if the Planning Commission could restrict future rental .'
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated he believed the code allowed the
Planning Commission to use discretion in restricting future uses.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Hrerick to continue Environmental
Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 39- 7 to dune 1.4, 1989. Motion carried
by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BEA iE LEY, EMERIC , MCNI E, fiOL TOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
ABSTAIN: CHITIE
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 12218 HIX DEVELOPMENT
- A subd1vis1on D9 acres of and into parce'`s id the Low
Residential Development District, located the east side of Hellman
Avenue, south of lath Street '- AP : PO -OCI -35, OR, & 40.
Betty Filler, Assistant Civil Engineer,; presented the staff report and
corrected the Resolution to drop parcel number O -0 1-40 from the request.
Chairman Mc el opened the public hearing.
Ernest Hi , president of Hix Development, stated they objected to condition 7
of the resolution because they did not wish to give up the 30 feet. He stated
that in the raster plan three streets were bulbed and they would be grilling to
extend those streets into their development. He felt that the master plan
would have a street to the east of parcels 2 and 3, which would allow` them
access to a street other than Hellman `Aveoue,
Phyllis Aquino, 6905 Kirkwood Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, wanted to know if her
street, which dead-ended into the project site, would be opened to through
traffic; and if so, hoer much traffic would be generated®
Chairman McNiel stated that when a street is dead ended, it is generally
presumed that the the street may; eventually be opened. He stated that at the
present' time the map was only conceptual ,; so there was the possibility that
the street would be opened.' He stated there was no gay to currently tell how
much through traffic would be generated.
s. Aquino asked how many houses were being proposed.
r'. Hix stated that approximately 70 homes were being planned.
Dad Coleman, Senior Planner, stated the developer would be encouraged to hold
neighborhood meetings to gather input from local residents'.
Mr. Dix stated that they had contemplated having separate neighborhood
meetings with residents of each of the cul-de-sac streets.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emer ck stated he favored retaining condition 7 of the Resolution
because it allowed the developer the flexibility to retain the 30 foot section
by appropriate master planning.
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Commissioner Tolstoy agreed and felt that condition 7 was flexible enough to
allow the applicant to place the lot line where he wished.
Commissioner Chitlea stated she would be uncomfortable approving the parcel
map without condition 7.
Chairman McNlel reopened the public hearing to allow Mr. Hix to comment.
r Hix asked hors he could get the 30 feet back after the parcel map was
recorded. He suggested that another~ condition be added to allow for a lot
line adjustment in the future by merely baying the land from the sellers if
the map were recorded prior to acceptance of the master plan.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney felt there was no need to add a condition
to the Resolution.
Chairman McHiel felt that minute action would adequately protect the
applicant.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12218, with>
modification to change the APN to 202-061-35 and 39 Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MC IEL, TDLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MUNICIPAL CODE, AMENDMENT CITY DE RANCHO
UT MCN A Various amendments o Tirt1e , the ubdivi ion Ordinance,
F ardin appeal periods, approval periods, and extensions.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. He indicated that
the amendment was brought before the Planning Commission to allow their
comments. He requested minute action only.
Chairman McN el asked if it was legal to allow only 4 months instead of 36
months for an extension.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, Mated that it would be illegal to allow;
less than the state requirement.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated staff had been allowing the Map
Act to govern.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated that the l -day; appeal periods for tentative tract`
or parcel crap actions, would be permissible because it was longer than the
state-mandated 10-day period.
Mr. Coleman stated that appeal periods for all other types of action were 10
days and he felt it was confusing to the public to have two different appeal
periods.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Hearing no further testimony, the
public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea felt it would be appropriate to bring the Municipal Code
into conformance with the state lace on all throe items. She felt the 10-day
appeal period was a reasonable amount of time to file an appeal .
The Planning Commission unanimously supported the changes as recommended b ;
staff.
NEW BUSINESS
L. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT 9-18 - DOLAN - An appeal of staffs decision toi
Te-nyaH u ation rmit fo a l ti-track recording studio located
in the Low Density Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) at
1291 Arrow Route A : C 1i11-1g*
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McHiel invited public comment.
Mike Dolan, 929 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they were willing to
lower the number of customers to a maximum of one per day, which Mould be less
than the average for residences where piano or swimming were taught. He
showed pictures of the soundproofing material on his ells and Mated his
studio speakers would not reach the maximum level of 110 decibels (d1
referred to in the staff report. He stated he had 'modified his speakers to
reach the 110 d1` and ;then taken decibel readings right outside his door and
from several other areas up to the edge of his property line. He soured
charts,; which indicated a reading of 70 d1 immediately outside his door~ down
to below 60 dB at the fence. He presented a letter from his neighbor
indicating he had done the sound level readings in the presence of his
neighbor and a statement that the neighbor felt the equipment posed no
disturbance problem for the neighborhood.
Commissioner Chitiea asked how Mr. Dolan could, record groups with a limit of
one customer per day.
r+. Dolan stated he could record the members individually on various tracts,
or coup record the vocal at another location, and trier► mix the various tracts
in his studio.
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Chairman McNidl asked what types of music Mr. Dolan recorded.
Mr. Dolan stated he works mostly with light rock, country, folk-type music, or
European standards,, such as accordion.
Chairman McNiel asked Mr. Dolan if he provided instruments.
Mr. Nolan stated he had home instruments. He stated there was no real
difference between his equipment and horse entertainment ent equipment.
Herman Rey el , 9505 Base tine Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that industrial
property was located across the strut from the site and Hellman and Arrow
were heavily traveled streets. He felt' this was an opportunity for the
Planning; Commission to allow a small business person to have a chance.
There was no further public comment.
Commissioner Toltoy stated that in his experience it would not be
commercially feasible to run a recording studio involving only mixing down.
He did not feel it could be done with only one person at a time, because many
times the artists need an audience to enhance their performance:.
Commissioner Emerick felt the noise performance standards were the primary
concern. He felt it was unrealistic to control the number of people to one
per day, because the Colans might have visitors who were not recording.
Commissioner Chit ea asked if the Planning Commission could review a Home
Occupation Permit if problems developed.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated the conditions for review would be
almost the same criteria as for Conditional Use Permits.
Comrissoner 'Chitlea wondered whether one customer per day was realistic. She
felt it would not be wise to require Code Enforcement to monitor the number of
customers.
Chairman McN i el stated the alleyway behind the home has available parking and
felt it was not realistic to restrict the customers to one per day. He;
invited Mr. Dolan to comment about the available parking space;
r. Dolan stated that when their fence blew down, he provided for more parking
on his lot when he rebuilt the fence.
There were no further public comments..
Commissioner' Chitiea felt it was difficult to place a maximum number on the
customers. She preferred to allow for flexibility and thought the Commission
could review if neighbors complained because of impaction of traffic or noise.
Commissioner Emerick stated the room was wall and he would like to limit the
number of customers to three to five per group, and perhaps limit the number
of groups to two per day.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that if the Planning Commission wished to
approve the project, they should continue the item to allow staff to prepare a
Resolution of approval for consideration.
Chairman McNiel asked Mr. Dolan if he favored a continuance.
r Dolan responded he would be agreeable.
Commissioner < Tol toy stated he did not feel this was really a home
occupation. He felt a horse occupation would generally generate an;extremely
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limited clientele and felt this use opened up a new dimension on the
definition of a home occupation.
Motion- Moved by Tol toy, seconded by Chitiea, to continue Rome Occupation
Perot 9 1 S to May 24, 1989. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: SEA ESLEY, CHITIEA EMERIC , MCNIEL, TOLSTOY'
DES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
d, O IX - Planning. Commission Recessed
. 5 R.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
M. HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT
Miki gratt, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Sandra AlaconLopez, County of San Bernardino, gave a brief overview and
showed slides outlining the elements of the County plan. She Mated San'
Bernardino County prepared the draft and received public comment, following
which they revised the plan. She said the County has to submit the plan to
the state by dune 1, 1989, ;for state review and approval. She saidthat once`
the state approves the plan, Cities have three options. 1') adopt a City plan,
); adopt the County plan, or S) amend City ordinances to refer to the County
plan.
Chairman McNi el asked if the County was selecting potential sites within the
Cities.
s. Alacron-Lopez stated they were not actually siting, only setting up
criteria for review of applications.
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Chairman McHiel asked if there were adequate penalties for improper
transportation.
s. Ala ron-Lopez stated there were substantial penalties and generators were
becoming more aware of their own liabilities if they mishandle their waste.
Chairman McNiel asked if there was any local control over federal lands
located in the County.
. Alacron-Lopez stated the County has no permitting authority in the federal
jurisdictions. However, she said the federal Department of Health' Services
recommends that the County plan be used on federal , state, and local lands.
Chairman Mc Niel asked if Cities could designate themselves as toxic-waste free
zones, and how that would affect waste transportation.
Ms. Alacron-Lopez stated the County was requesting input from Cities regarding
the transportation studies. She indicated regional and urban transportation
studies were necessary.
Chairman McNiel asked if the desert was being considered as a potential site
for a waste depository.'
Ms. Alacron-Lopez stated the County was not identifying any specific sites,
but that mangy people consider the desert to be a potential area.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the City would be concerned about local disposal or
transfer sites, businesses which produce hazardous wastes, transportation
routes ±through the City, and recycling centers, which might create' air
pollution*
s. Bratt stated them was a list of hazardous haste generators' and many
generators were already looted within the City; i .e , anyone using hazardous
materials in processing, such as General Dynamics and any neighborhood dry
cleaning establishments.
Commissioner Tolstoy wanted to know it the City would then specify where those
facilities could locate.
s Alacron-Lopez stated the City could specify specific siting criteria in
their own plan. She< said that SB477, an amendment to AB2948, contained
language granting the Cities more authorityw in Braking the siting criteria more
stringent.
Commissioner Emeri ck asked' if the City would have any input to oppose a`
facility located in an area abutting the City when there were concerns
regarding groundwater contamination or air pollution.
s. lacron-Lopez stated there was a new policy in the revised County"s
General Plan which refers specifically to the sphere of influence. ' The same
policy has been adopted in the County"s hazardous waste plan.
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Ms Eratt stated that the public participation in the plan would be extensive.
N. CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR A TREE-ACRE PARK LOCATED ON ALTA CUE TA DRIVESOUTH
D `A LIB E THE R D ' 1LL AREA
Chairman McNiel excused himself from hearing the item, as he lives with DD
feet of the park site.
Dave Leonard, Park Project Coordinator, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the park was not originally supposed to be a
trail-head with sufficient parking.
r Leonard stated the Army Corps of Engineers had originally envisioned
parking for 40 vehicles, but that was one of the community objections. He
stated the park would Mill serve as the southern terminus of the trail .
Commissioner Emerick stated he would like to see a hard surface provided for
bikes.
Mr. Leonard stated that the design group ranted the trail system to be
constructed of natural material , such as decomposed granite.
Commissioner Toltoy felt bike racks should be provided. He asked if the
Corps of Engineers would provide partial financing.
Mr. Leonard stated that bike racks would be provided and the park would be
totally City funded.
Commissioner Emerick suggested drought-resistant plants be utilized.
Commissioner Chitiea requested more shading and seating be provided around the
sand play area.
Commissioner Emerick asked if exercise stations were utilized in other parks.
r. Leonard confirmed that e cercise stations were used in existing parks and
that additional shade trees could be added.
Commissioner Chitiea requested that the equestrian rest .,,area,,,,be reviewed by
the Trails Committee to be sure safety and su�r �va " ty pri�rns,,"were
addressed. She felt the Spanish names were more appro 1 t -.
Commissioner Tol toy felt Alta Vista, was too common.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the nacre Don Tappi'a would be most
appropriate for historical purposes.
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
Commissioner Chitiea suggested the Planning Commission should support a
proactive approach to recycling to help extend the life spars of the
landfill. She stated the current life span was five years, and felt that the
life span could be extended to twenty years by utilizing recycling. She
stated she supported the Claremont sorting plan.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed. He stated a compost shredder could also be used
to create the ity's own mulching to assist with water conservation.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the matter was urgent, because of the short
projected life of the landfills.
It was the unanimous consensus of the Commission to support any City Council
action to establish a City-wide policy encouraging recycling.
Commissioner Blakesley also supported City ounil 's actions to restrict some
of the substances available in the City.
Mr. Buller stated a workshop would be scheduled on Wednesday, May 31 to review
plans for both Mervyn' s and Montgomery Wards.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no further public comments at this time
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
9:45 P.M. - planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
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brad ZSul er
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CITY OF RANCHO CNCA O CA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Molting
May 8, Ig g
Chairman Larry Mc Niel called the May 8, 1989 Adjourned Meeting of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at :CC P.M. The' purpose of the
greeting was to present the Rancho Cucamonga Design Excellence Awards. In
attendance were Planning Commissioners Larry Mc Niel , Suzanne Chiti a, and
Peter Tol stoy. Also in attendance were Mayor Dennis Stout, City staff, and
guests.
slide show depicting the various winners was presented.
Residential division honors went to Calais by Lewis Homes.
Office division winners were Haven Professional' Plaza by Haven Investors and
Virginia Dare Winery Business Center by Tower Partners.
Honored in the industrial division were Sixth Street Distribution Center by;
the Nalbandian Group associated with the Bar aian Company and Vineyard 'West
Mini-Storage by the Nalband an Croup associated with the Barmakian Company.
Commercial division honors were bestowed upon Virginia Dare Food Court by
Tower Partners, Terra Vista Village by Dicker filar ington, Burger Ching at Terra
Vista Village by Bob Clpit associated with Lewis homes, and Victoria Self
Storage by the William Lyon Company.
Best master plan was awarded to Victoria Lands South by the William Lyon
Company.
Honorable Mentions were awarded to Victoria Heights, William Lyon Company in
the landscaping area, Serendipity School by Hammer Investments in the area of
rehabilitation, and Johanna Jordan for Aribal Properties for community art.
The awards presentation concluded at .CC P.M. with a catered reception.
Respectfully submitted,
Ar
Are Nul er
Secretary
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING UTE
Regular tin
April 26, 1989
Chairman i called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho+ Cucamonga
Planning mission to order at : 0 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions' Park
Community Center, 9161; Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,a, California. Chairnan
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Brucerick, Larry
McNiel , Peter Tulstny
ABSENT* avid Blakesley
STAFF T: Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner* Brad Buller, City
Planner, Dan Coleman, Senior Planner'; Tom Grahn,
AssistantPlanner; Barry an u, Senior Civil1 Engineer;
Ralph Hansdn, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes,
Assistant Planner; Brett Horner, Assistant tanner;
Barbara Kr all , Assistant Civil Engineer; Otto Kroutil ,
Deputy City Planner; Russ' aguir , City Engineer; Gail
Sanchez, A Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer;
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chairman McNiel presented a Resolution of Comendation to Debra Meier,'
Associate Planner, for her years of service.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
otion- Moved by Tolsty, seconded by Chitiea,' nani usy passed to approve
the i s of the Adjourned Meeting of March 1 , 1989.
Motion:' need by Chitiea, seconded by Tnlstny, unanimously carried to approve
the i s of April 1 , 1989, as amended.
CONSENT' E A
A. TIME EXTENSION TENTATIVE TRACT 13316 - FRIED E total
rest entia ale o nt slur a 11I y ots 0 acres of land in
the Very Low Density Residential District ( less than 2 dwelling; units per
acre , located at the northeast corner of Archibald Avenue and Carari'
Avenue - 1- 71-1 , 37
B. ENTERTAINMENT' PERMIT 7-01 HARRY g - consideration to modify,
suspen , roc e an e permit ran d a disc loin
vocals and playingreca s nightl in conjunction with a restaurant/night
club, located at 10877 Foothill Boulevard.
Commissioner Tolstoy requested that Item A be pulled from the Consent Calendar
for discussion.
Commissioner Chitea requested thatItem be pulled from the Consent Calendar
for discussion.
A. TIME T SIC`' FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 1331E
Coamissioner Tolstoy felt that the letter from the homeowners on London Avenue'
should be addressed. He stated that at the time the tract was approved all
information necessary was not available to design the drainage channel . He
requested that planning have input to be sure the channel s as aesthetically
pleasing as possible, as it crossed over the affected properties.
Commissioner Chits a supported having Planning review the plans.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Vince Fritch, 5217 London ;avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated the runoff would
cross his back yard. He stated that the runoff would be underground until it
reached the existing homeowners ' property. He stated a small amount of debris
now is through, but the amount is governed by -foot pipes at the top of the
canyon, and that the Friedman tract would generate ouch wore runoff. felt%
ire had been modifications to the project that had not been addressed by the
public. He requested a denial of the Time Extension to allow for public
input. He stated that Friedman had already had two years to solve the
problem.
Brad Buller, City planner, stated that Mr. Fritdh was already in contact ith
o City Engineering department and theywould continue to keep him advised.
He stated that engineering a first approve a functional drainage system
before planning could address the aesthetic quality.
Chairman iel stated nothing would happen until there was an acceptable
solution to the drainage problem and the applicant was now asking for a Time
Extension to allow additional time solve the problem.
Russ a ui City Engineer, stated that Friedman s' on their third`engineer.
e said that a required condition debris basin dam, with a pipe and spillway
coming t of the dam, was located at the top of the cul -de-sac street. The
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Buller stated that` the tract met the average required lot size and minimum
20,000 foot lot size..
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing s closed.
Commissioner issioner rick suggested that the plans go through the Design Review
Committee.
'. Hanson stated ey could not add a condition to the Time Extension.
Commissioner Tol toy stated he ould be satisfied to have the Planning`
department review the plans.
Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick , to adopt the Resolution'
approving Time Extension for Tentative Tract 13316. Motion carried by the
following vote
YES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: C ISI RS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: HL CY -carried
B. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 87-01
Commissioner hit`iea stated she would like to direct staff by minute action to
review the permit in 180 days and forward that review to the Planning
Commission. The other' Commissioners agreed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
declining revocation of Entertainment Permit 7-0 . Motion carried by the
following vote.,
AYES* COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY '
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BL SLCY carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. T T I T PERMIT 90 - HARRY C' request to conduct live comedy
acts, -sync ion ts, air an clothing fashion shows, live
entertainment concerts, live ,jazz, and special promotion events' for local
businesses and groups in conjunction with arestaurant/night club at 1OB77'
Foothill Boulevard.
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Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and stated that a
quest had been received m the applicant to delete the fashion show and
talent night categories ( including in lip-sync contests) from the expansion
request. In addition, he stated that the special promotion events for local
businesses and groups were not defined as entertainment under the City
ordinance.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Harry is h' 55 University Avenue, Riverside, attorney for the applicant,
stated he wasavailable to answerquestions.
Fred Deaux, 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated it appeared HarryCs
as still experiencing problems with fifteen calls between January 7 and. March
1, 1989, including four disturbances and two for deadly weapons. He
supported expansion to include the items listed, but± asked if something l
be doneto more appropriately manage the cry
Chairman McNiel stated that according to information received at the last;
Planning Commission meeting, the deadly y arms calls concerned off-duty
policemen who had their weapons and there had been no shootings. He stated
the entertainment had been carefully selected.
r# Deaux supported having the Entertainment Permit reviewed in six months.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing s closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt Comissioner Chitid 's suggested 1 C-day review
mentioned during the Commission 's previous ?action would be appropriate for the
expansion request as gall ®
Commissioner Chiti a felt the modifications proposed drworthy of
consideration and she supported the current application.
Motion - Moved by Chiti , seconded by Tolstoy, to ant ;the Resolution
approving Entertainment Permit . Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
CS. COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: C Cy -carried
Histen asked if Harry C 's would notified about the 'review.
Brad Buller,' City Planner, indicated y would.
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D. ENVIRONMENTAL; SS TENTATIVE PARCEL P 11212 - WAGNER INSUL CO.
u vis 1> n n n e' n t
Heavy 1r ustrial District (Subarea 9) of the Industrial Specific Plan,
located on the south side of 8th Street, west side of Rochester Avenue
A : 9 S1-1C, 11 , 12, 27, & 3 (Continued from March 22, 1989.)
E. I
VARIANCE 3 R WAGNER INSUL C . request for a reduction of the
of e m acres o acres within the Minimum Impact Heavy
Industrial district (Subarea 9) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located
on the south side of 8th Street, west side of Rochester Avenue - APN:+ 9-
110, 11, 1 , 27 , & 3 , Continued from rch 22, 1989. )
Tom Cram, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report on Variance - .
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Robert Schauer, attorney for Covington & Crowe , requested that the Variance be
approved.
Chairman McNiel asked if the applicant was planning to sell one of the
parcels.
r. Schauer stated the applicant wished to .sell Parcel 1 , and would continue
to operate their business on Parcel 2.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing s 'closed®
Commissioner Chitiea felt the Variance was appropriate, ba sed on
considerations of the parcel . She agreed with staff'staff's recommendation to
modify the parcels to have one a minimum of 5.0 acres and the other
approximately 4.8 acres.
Comaissioner` eric stated at bast one parcel would be substandard in size,
and he therefore supported the Variance.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public` hearing to ash why the applicant was
proposing the configuration of one parcel at only 3.96 acres.
r. Schauer felt that to enlarge the smaller parceli would move the boundary
o close to the existing building and encroach on `eir drives
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Brad Buller. City Planner, stated that staff did not believe enlarging Parcel
1 would` e detrimental to development on either parcel .
Commissioner Tols`toy supported the parcels as shown on Exhibit D of the staff
report and believed that smaller parcels would lead to circulation problems or
overdevelopment problems.
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Commissioner Chitiea agreed that two larger parcels, wouldmake it easier to
develop a good site plan in the future.
Conmissioner Emerick felt that either; ay would require a Variance and he wes
inclined to defer to the wishes of the present user.
Chairman McNiel agreed that in dealing with parcels being cut to less than
minimum size, it always comes s back to haunt the Planning Commission. He felt
that if the parcels were held at 5 and 4.8 acres, the elo r might not sell
off the parcel , but he supported e near S SC split because it madethe best
sense for the future.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that since the Co fission was
fanning to act on something other than what the applicant requested, they
should s if the applicant an nt on the action being considered.
Chairman iel reopened the public hearing.
. Schauer stated that they obviously needed the Variance. He stated that if
they couldn 't have the configuration shown in Exhibit A, they would prefer the
one in Exhibit D. He requested that the Variance be approved.
Hearing o further testimony, the public hearing vas closed.
Motion: Moved by Chid a, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Variance - 3 with modification to require at the parcels be
nearly equal in size,; with one parcel a minimum of S acres and the other;
approximately 4.8 acres. Motion carried the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried
Barrye Han son, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report on
Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11212.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
r. Schauer stated they specifically objected to six of the conditions as
being unreasonable and they felt that imposition of those conditions was
beyond state law. He stated that they had met` with City engineers regarding
moving the railroad ad spur, and it would mean tearing down their existing
building to move the spur to whereCity requested. He stated the spin was
used, but does not go to thenewly created parcel .
Chairman iel stated that the City normally requires undergrounding of all
new developments.
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. Schauer stated they did not believe it was in conformance with state law
to require off-site improvements. He stated that he 'knew f an instance where
the City had required under grounding on the opposite side of the street, but
the developer only paid one-half the cost.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the condition regarding the railroad spur
relocation was to be enforced only when modifications were requested on parcel '
.
arye Hanson stated that was correct.
Co issioner Tolstoy stated that as the existing building a t 1 , if the
applicant were to request expansion, he would probably meet opposition because
the City does not allow l buildings.
Mr. Schauer stated he believed any tenant improvement, not just expansion,
would trigger moving, of the spur.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Barrye Hanson stated there were d number of instances where the proponent had
only paid one-half of the fees for undergrounding of railroad lines. However,';
on a recent appeal heard by City it , the City Council stated that when
the utility line was on the project side of a facility, street, railroad,
etc., the full fee should be collected. e further stated that although the
property was on the other side of the street from the i railroad lines, his
position was that the people to the north 'would never use the street and have
exposure to the lines because they 'could not cress the tracks to use the
street.
Co issioner Emerick asked for the City ttor y 's opinion' regarding the
applicant's contention that the conditions 'were legally excessive.
Ralph n n disagreed it e applicant and stated he felt the conditions
would be upheld He stated that with regard to going off-site an
underg-rounding on the opposite side of the street, the allowable reimbursement
agreements would be similar to what is spelled out in California Government
Code.
arye ;Hanson stated that with regard to the utilities on Rochester, the
applicant being asked o underground the utilities on the project side of
the street and pay a portion of the fees for undergrounding the utilities on
the opposite side of the street because utilities on the opposite side of
the street would cost more to underground.
Chairman WNiel asked n Eighth Street would be expanded, requiring the
owing of the railroad, spur so that it would not be in the public right-of-way
of the street.
a rye Hanson stated the sheet would be widened when parcel 2 was developed.
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Commissioner Tolstoy felt the requirements for under grounding e utilities on
Eighth et would be consistent with Planning Commission 's prior posture.
He felt that the request to underground e utilities on the corner parcel
would pedi undergrounding and the applicant would be covered the
reimbursement agreement.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed that to do otherwise would be inconsistent.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the fee for undergrounding the railroad utilities
should be one-half of the total fee and the City should pay for the other half
of the undergrounding because the property on the other side is already
developed.
Chairman McNiel stated that even though i articular piece of property
appeared be unfairly burdened, the City may not wish to change their
practice. He was afraid that the City might not have the money to pay for the
un' e rg round i n .
Commissioner Chitiea felt it would benefit the entire community.
Commissioner Emerick felt that it would benefit the property owner, as better
aesthetics would increase property values.
Commissioner Chitiea ' felt it would rep re se nt a general neighborhood
improvement.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated the street was single-loaded, in that
only this property fronted on the street, and that in other single-loaded
streets full street improvements have been required.
Commissioner Chitiea supported s ff's position to require the full payment
for under grounding.
Chairman el and Commissioner Eme,rick concurred.
Chairman McNiel felt the requirements for undergrounding of utilities on
Rochester were consistent with what had been done in the past.
The remainder, of the Commissioners concurred.
Commissioner Chitiea saw no point in putting in a portion of the
undergrounding and then leaving the last portion undone.
Commissioner Tolsto ' stated the applicant on parcel 2 wouldhave to improve up
to the property line and would be eligible for reimbursement when development
(redeve ntl ok place on the "Not a part" property. He saw no reason to
change the condition.
ar~rye Hanson stated that the other property already had a building on it, but
he felt it was not developed to its highest use.
e Comissioners concurred that the condition should remain.
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Chairman McNiel asked about the Rochester right-of-way.
Barrye Hanson stated that the City would acquire the right-of-way at the
developer 's expense if the 'developer was not able to obtain in the right-of-way
on his 'o
Ralph Hanson stated the condition was the result of a condition in the Map Act`
whereby neither the City nor the applicant own the property and the property
needs to be acquired prior to recordation of the find map.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the condition would be appropriate.
Chairman McNiel concurred. He felt Eighth Street would need to be widened and
stated that because the street could not be widened ithout roving the;
railroad spur, the spin would eventually have to be moved.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated it would be necessary to relocate the railroad
spur, but the applicant would have flexibility on where to relocate it.
Bar rye Hanson stated it could potentially go north/south.
Connissioner Chitiea felt it was necessary to provide for relocation allow
for widening of Eighth Street.
Ralph Hanson asked if the Co i sion rs wished to thane the :wording of the
condition regarding nant improvements triggering the need for the Eighth
Street improvements.
Co issioner Chitiea felt it would be moreappropriate to change the wording
so that expansion or change in building use would trigger the Eighth Street
improvements. She felt the phrase "tenant improvements" was too broad,ad, ,as it
could conceivably include improvements to the interior.
Co issioner Tolstoy stated he was wholeheartedly in favor of all of the
decisions with the exception of the railroad utilities®
Boni Moved by Tolstoy to adopt the Resolution approving Environmental
Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11212 withmodification tocharge one-half
fee for undergrounding of railroad utilities. There "was no second.
Motion* rived by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11212, with
modifications to change the parcel sues to be consistent with Variance 88-23
and have Eighth Street improvements triggered by expansion or change in use
of the existing building on Parcel 2. Motion carried by the following vote:
V E S. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL
CS: C ISSI S> TCL STOY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried
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felt the south side of Jersey looked like an industrial ghetto, but he had
do the quality of development in Rancho Cucamonga and felt the area would be
improved. He felt the paving represented r expansion tote Commercial
Carrier facility and that more traffic would be generated. He complained of
loitering in the evening hours high he felt was caused by employees or
visitors to the Commercial Carriers site. He stated Commercial Carrier 's
metal buildings were not attractive and he felt the 25 foot landscaped setback
s not unreasonable.
r. Becklund stated no future development would be taking place on the site°
and that the lot had been paved a year ago as a dust control measure. He
stated e was no change in the use or additional construction to take
place, except for those requirements contained in the Resolution.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if any trees were planted >when the site was paved.
r. Becklund stated it was not a parking lot, but a vehicle stDr8ge area and
o aesthetic improvements had been made. He stated the area was covered with
1/2" gravel mixed with emulsion, giving e appearance of a gravel ya
r. Barton stated that nothing had been done where Red Oak terminates.
Loyd Shockley, Maintenance Supervisor for Ryder Trucks, stated that people
loitered in front of his property, but they were not his employees and that he
had spent a lot of money and time cleaning up the site n he originally
bought the property. He said they were originally told by City staff that
they l not be required to make any improvements and that surfacing with a
macadam rook coating would only require a `grading and; paving plan.
Commissioner Chitiea asked the condition of the street, and why the applicant'
had not been asked repair it.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated at major street improvements are
required for full redevelopment or new development, but not normally for a
Minor Development Review.
Hearing o further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel felt the Planning Commission had performed an acceptable job
when the project was first reviewd. He did not think modification of the
conditions and granting of the Variance was in the best interest of the
community. He felt it was appropriate require upgrading of the property
with the application for the Minor Development Review.
r. Kroutil stated that City Council felt there should be a ' more realistic
relationship between on-site vs. off-site improvements. They had questioned
at triggered the requirements for improvements. 1t was felt than
theoretically the applicant could go back and remove the macadam coat and no
improvements could be required. Therefore, City Council felt it might be
better to reduce the amount of improvements required.
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Commissioner Chtea asked if the site would meet the County requirements for:
dust control if the coating o ed.
. Kroutil stated it would then become a code enforcement issue, because
storing of trucks could require screening and the City would have the legal
sans to make them remove the vehicles.
Commissioner Finerick vented to know if a Development Review would be required
to remove the macadam coat.
M Kroutil stated the macadam coating was applied subject to conditions. if
the conditions were not met, the approval would be void® He felt City Council
returned the matter because they felt the City would get nothing if the
Variance was not granted.
Commissioner Telstoy stated that if the applicant paved the area as a parkin
lot, that would, require a permit and it would trigger the need for
landscaping.
routil stated that had the Planningissien determined that the
macadam coating was not a form a paving, the Minor Development Review would'
not have been required and no conditions could have been placed on the site.
Commissioner rick stated the Commission needed to determine if the macadam
coating should be considered paving.
Chairman McNiel stated the macadam cdatin ` was put down to control dusty He
felt that as the requirements did not include under grounding, they were not a
major burden. He felt the improvements re not significant and he wondered
why Ryder was opposed improvements.
Comnissioner Chitiea felt people' on the adjoining properties and those people
traveling down Red Cad had to view the site and it was an eyesore. She felt
that the conditions originally imposed were at the minimal side of what is
normally asked of other property owners.
Coamissioner Tolstoy agreed that the original conditions were consistent with
at is asked of other property owners.
Commissioner Emerick felt that the original conditions were correct.
Chairman McNiel felt that the dust generated beforethe macadam coating was
more of a nuisance to Ryder Trucks than to surrounding property owners.
reopened the` public hearing forcomment from r ecklund.
ri lund stated that the original conditions required movingthe office
parking lot and a loss of approximately 2 acres of storage to relocate the
parking lot.
Chairman McNiel stated that landscaping generally runs 1111 - 11t of a total
project.
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Mr. Becklund stated they would be agreeable to that percentage if they were
proposing brand new development. However, he felt this as ' this was not a
new development, major landscaping should not be required.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the applicant originally appealed
s ff's conditions on a Minor Development< Review application. The Planning
Con mission upheld s ff's conditions and the applicant appealed to City
Councit . City Council' determined the applicant should resubmit the matter to
the Manning Commission and request a Variance. e applicant then
resubmitted,` a d on the direction he heard City Council . The Planning
Comnission should now consider the City Council direction and take action on
the application.
tion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea to direct staff to prepare a
Resolution of Denial for _Variance 9-0 . Motion carried by the following
vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: L SLE -carried
rBuller asked if the Commissioners wished to reconsider their position on
any of the original conditions regarding the level of improvement.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that they; would request'
improvements consistent with what they had done previously.
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Chairman McNiel stated he would be willing o discuss possible moving of;
driveway locutions, and he would possibly be willing to leave the driveways
where they were currently proposed.
Ralph Hanson, City Attorney, stated that the Resolution for the Minor
Development Review required a Variance, which the Commission had voted to
deny. Therefore, the Minor` eve opment Review could not be approved.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea to direct staff to prepare a
Resolution of Denial for Minor Development Review 87-71. Motion carried by
e following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHIT , EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: C ISSIC ERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BL ®carried
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H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT , TENTATIVE 54 LEWISHOMES
su 7vsoan dts and 55
condominium units on12.2 ao o an in th' e Medium Residential
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District -14 dwelling units per of the Terra Vista Planned
Community, located on the northeast corner of Havel Avenue and Church
Street - . 1 77- 1C15.
Brett dr r, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Don Thompson, Lewis Homes, stated they were in agreement with the conditions;
and he was available to answer questions.
Commissioner Chi°tiea asked if a materials b rd were available. She asked
what material was= being used for the balcony walls.
r. Thompson did not know what the material' as.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was olo d.
Commissioner Chitiea suggested subtle color variations should be used. She
requested at the colors and balcony wall material be re ie d by the Design
Review Committee.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by C itiea, to adopt the Resolutions<
approving Environmental s ss rat and Tentative Tract 13664 and Design Review'
of the 86 condominium units with modification to require Design Review
Committee approval of building colors andsecond-story patio wall+ rial .
Motion carried by the following vote .
AYES* COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 112 LEWIS
theF—Tsu vas do a s d an n a e s rn
errs to anned Community,, 1 a d on the east side of Milliken
Avenue, north of Church Street - : 27-151-1 14.
J. ENVIRONMENTAL SS SCONDITIONAL USE PERMIT '-42 - PITASSI DALMAU
eues p eve op a , s ua oo o ° on ao ' s o
land within the Recreational Commercial District of the Terra Vista
Planned Community, located on the east side of Milliken Avenue, north of
Church Street AP : 227- 1 .
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented e staff report.
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Bi 11 Si Iva, Deputy City Engineer, stated the City would enter into
construction improvement agreements, probably with Lewis Homes, before
accepting dedication.
Chairman McNiel asked about the progress of construction of Milliken Avenue
adjacent to the site.
Mr. Thompson stated they hoped to start construction within a few weeks and
hoped to complete it within 3 months.
Chairman McNiel asked if that could hinder the subject project.
Mr. Silva responded that the construction of Milliken was already bonded by
Lewis Homes. He isaid building permits could be approved, but occupancy would
be held up until completion of construction.
Chairman McNiel asked if the storm drainage system was being constructed in
conjunction with the streets.
Mr. Silva confirmed that it was.
Mr. Pitassi asked if the condition requiring approval of the land use
amendrent prior to issuance of building permits could be removed.
Can Coleman, Senior Planner, stated building permits could not be issued if
the property was not zoned properly.
Mr. Thompson stated the current zoning was Recreational Commercial and he
wanted to know if that would be acceptable.
Mr. Buller believed the YMCA use may be a conditional use under the Terra
Vista Community an, but stated he would need to verify.
Mr. Barton asked if the conditions which Lewis had already bonded for could be
removed from the Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Silva stated that the conditions would have to stay because it must be
guaranteed as required by the Code. As to as the improvements have been
bonded, building permits can be issued.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that many of the concerns raised by Mr. Barton
were already covered by the Lewis ' bond which covers the construction of
Milliken and the for drain.
Mr. Barton stated he did not object to the conditions so long as they were not
asked to modify the street plans.
Mr. Silva stated that if Lewis Homes defaulted on the agreement, the would
have to be some guarantee of the construction of access.
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Barrye HansonSenior City Engineer, stated he believed the applicant had
already t the intent of the emergency d access condition. He felt
the Piro Department would approve the plans as currently designed.
Chairman McNiel next asked to address the concern raised :by Gr. Barton
regarding development fees.
r Coleman stated that development fees were established by City Council and
could not be waived by the Planning Commission.
Ralph Hanson stated that the lease agreement would address the fee situation.
Barton stated that they felt their costs should start at the property; line
behind the curb and that sewer laterals , electrical , and water would be
brought to the site.
Puss Maguire , City Engineer, stated that the utilities would be brought to the
site for the park. However, if the YMCA will have special ter, sewer, an
electrical needs that will require larger than normal electrical and water
lines , it wow i l 1 have to be covered in the lease.
r. Thompson affirmed that Lewis Homes would be installing the lines large
enough to support the t.
Chairman McNiel next addressed e condition regarding joining of Lighting and;
Landscaping Districts. He stated that it could be covered in the lease
agreement with the City.
Hearing no further sti n , the public hearing s closed.
Commissioner Emerick stated he liked the architecture, but felt perhaps
articulation could be placed on the large flat wall .
Commissioner Tolstay stated that the wall in question was recessed and would
not be that easily seen. He asked what material was being used on the column
ba ses.
Commissioner` hitiea stated she recalled Design Review had requested the
material be more substantial than plain stucco because of possible damage from
skateboards and bicycles running into it. She said she preferred tile.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to ask what material was being
u se d.
r. Pit ssi stated the proposal called for stucco over concrete , which he felt
would be rore durable than tile. He stated the stucco could easily be
repaired. He felt that the would pop and crack with abuse. He suggested an
alternative Dwight be to use sandblasted, painted co
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Comissioner=T lst y felt the concrete would be more durablea , st .
Commissioner iti a felt using the concrete would add another texture not
used elsewhere in the building.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that I using till would add another , l t that
%asn 't carried t enough in other parts of the building.
Chairman McNiel stated he liked the way the columnslooked and felt either
concrete r stucco would be a e tab l `.
Comissioner Chits a felt that from a maintenance standpoint the concrete
would be aily repaired, because it would merely need repainting
scratched, whereas the stucco finish would have to be reapplied. She s ta te d
she appreciated working with the project proponents in the evolution
pro jec t She felt it would fit in nicely in the surrounding community and
would be a rice addition to the City.
lion* Moved by Chitia seconded by Tlsy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11286. Motion
j carried by the following vote
YES: COMMISSIONERS: ITI , EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
CS: COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS: Y -carri
ed
Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Cbiti a, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental s s nt and Conditional Use ' Permit 8842, 'with
modification to requiresandblasted, painted concrete column bases. Motion
carried by the followingvote:
YES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES.* C ISSIC CS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: C carried
r Buller suggested the YMCA, Lewis Homes, and the City should all sitsdown
soon to discuss the project.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Citina, unanimously carried, to
continue tin beyond 11:00 P.M.
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ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONALS IT BLACK ELL A
request to es p ,' square feet'
within an existing industrial park on 3.8 acres of land in the General
Industrial District Subarea f the Industrial Specific Plan, located
on the northeast corner of Archibald Avenue and 6th Street - - 1-
3 a 33
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented e staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Tamy Blackwell , 10809 YoloStreet, Rancho Cucamonga,' stated she was' available
to answer questions®
Chairman McNiel asked what type of dances would be taught.`
s. Blackwell stated tap, ballet, and jazz.
Chairman McNiel asked how many students she anticipated.
Blackwell stated she currently ran a dance studio in Ontario, which she
wished to relocate a ha Cucamonga. She currently ad 50 students and she
projected she would have approximately 75 - 100 students.
Commissioner Emerick asked if she kept the doors open.
Mrs. Blackwell responded doors would be closed.
Commissioner Brick asked if there would be vibrations from the music.
Mrs. Blackwell stated she had no complaints from the neighbors at her current
location. She stated the speakers could be placed on the floor. She said her
hours of operation would net be the same as the surrounding businesses and she
did not anticipate any problems.
Stephanie Alexander, stated she had been a resident of Rancho uca na for
six years. She stated she currently did a let of business in Ontario because
she made six trips per week to take her children to the dance school there.
She felt the school would provide a service for the community and she
supported approval .
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion- Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to wept the Resolution`
3 - Motion
n and Conditional Use Permit_
app vEnvironmental Assessment o
carried by the following vote:
AYES- COMMISSIONERS: I O T II L
ES* ISI LSt NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: 3L P carried
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L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTPARCEL MAP 12121: - ROBERT FULLMER - A
su vi i 1
Industrial District (Subarea of the Industrial Specific Plan, located
on the east side of Rochester Avenue, north of the AT&SF Railroad tracks
APN: 1C- 1 & 22.
Barbara Krall , Assistant Civil Engineer, presented staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
i` i Paddock , 175 South Grove Avenue, Ontario, stated he representedFullmer
Construction and 'was available to answer questions.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing s closed.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded y Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving n iron n l Assessment and Parcel Map 12121. tion carried by'
the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: ITI , EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL SE PERMIT - RANCHO PACIFIC
request to esU51i s an office uw in ease space o
square eet within an existing industrial park 4.24
acres of land
in the General Industrial District (Subarea 11), located at q Utica
To!m Gran, Assistant Planner, presented staff report.
Commissioner Tolsoy stated that according to parking calculations, no parking
wouldbe available if additional office space were leased. However, since
most of the current tenants werefor office uses, he wondered how industrial
use tenants would fit into the project.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Benson , Koll Company presented o aerial photographs taken at 1 :
an 3:45 P.M. on Thursday, April 20, 1989. The photos showed at of the 253
available parking spaces, only 122 were in use at 10:40 A.M. and 105 were in
use at :45 P.M. He stated that the parking study indicated the highest
demand at 145 spaces. He felt the study and the photographs showed there was`
still available parking for future expansion. He also felt that office an
industrial uses were compatible.
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Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Ch i t i oa stated that because the parking study s convincing and
appeared to support the use , she supported the Resolution.
Commissioner Tolsoyr appreciated the aerial photographs.
Motion: Moved by Ch;itioa, seconded by Tolsto , to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental s ' ss nt and Conditional Use Permit ` g_C . Motion
carried by the following vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BL SLEy -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
N. CLARIFICATION OF A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REGARDING LANDSCAPING OF - 5
Otto rbutil Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report.
Motion- Moved by Chitioa, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolutions
approving dific tion' to Conditions of Approval for Development Review 7 C
and Development Review -SS. Motion carried by the following vote:
YES COMMISSIONERS* CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
L ESLEy -carried
0. DISCUSSION OF RECYCLING FACILITY A N N S
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chita stated she felt the City needed °to support recycling, but
it was also necessary to maintain high standards and a o the -recycling
facilities aesthetically pleasing. She supported the current requirements.
Commissioner Tols oy felt perhaps the structure which had been approved should
be reviewed to be sure it was convenient for both the 'user and the person
unloading the recycled material . agreed at the co unity did not want
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trucks/trailers sitting in parking lots or the multi-colored ells; He; felt>
the City should Fully support the intent of recycling and perhaps recycling
could, e tied in `with Boy Scouts, schools, or service clubs.
Chairman McNiel felt that churches already had recycling facilities, but that
probably did not meet the ` intent of the 'law. He felt the City should not
relax the i r° standards.
Commissioner Toltoy ; stated d the City was faced with the problem of
retrofitting some centers which had been built before City standards
enacted and it would be difficult to retrofit those centers.
Commissioner Chitiea felt it was important indicate that the..Cit has *grade
a strong commitment to the program.
CCMMISSION BUSINESS
P. TRAILS ADVISORY CCMMISSION VACANCY
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that Vicki Jackson had submitted her
resignation.
Connissioner' Chitiea suggested appointing someone to fill Vicki Jackson 's ter
from the list of applicants generated durin the last recruitment,
e other Commissioners concur
Commissioner Toltoy stated that two considerations should be taken; into
account: 1) was the applicant qualified, and could the applicant meeti when
the Trails Committee is scheduled. He asked if any qualified candidates were
on the list from the last recruitment.
Coamissioner Chitiea stated that Greg Pilcher made a well doc u 'me nte d
presentation the Trails Committee on short notice.
n Coleman, Senior Planner, stated Mr. Pilcher'was President of the Alta Loma
Riding Club and had ` spoken before the Planning Commission regarding the
Sapphire Trail .
Commissioner Chitiea suggested Greg Pilcher be recruited to fill the remainder'
of Vicki Jackson 's term.
The Planning Commission concurred.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded iti , unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
1aP.M. Planning Comission Adjourned the May 8, 1989, Awards of
Design presentation to be held at Lions Park Community Center.
Respectfully submitted,
A 4
Br�ad Bu ler
Sec re ta ry
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PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
ACTION MINUTES
April 20, 1989
THE CITY DE RANCHO CUC A - 1989 W D EDP DESIGN EXCELLENCE
The Third Annual Awards for Design Excellence will be held
May , 1989. The jury will review the nominated projects and decide
which projects are worthy of an award of excellence.
Staff Comments:
The Planning Commission awards jury) previously reviewed the
nominated projects on March 30, 1989 The jury narrowed the 'total'
number of projects down to thirteen. The jury requested a tour o
the thirteen pro ects, April lath, for further review*
The second and final meeting eeti will determine the finalist of the
wards program.
Action of theJury:
Members Present David Pl akesl e , Bruce Emeri ok, Suzanne Chit ea
Peter Tolstoy
Staff 'Planner: Jeff Gravel
The jury reviewed thirteen projects and concluded that the thirteen
should be rewarded for their exceptional contribution to the City.
e projects are as follows:
RESIDENTIAL.
Calais, by Lewis Noires
The front patio areas reinforce Calais 's village-like quality
which equates to a strong sense of place
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ACTION MINUTES
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OFFICE:
• Haven Professional Plaza, by Haven Investors
An innovative project in the use of materials shape and mass,
despite the restrictive development standards in the Kmart
Shopping Center by the Krat Corporation.
• Virginia Dare Winery Business Center, by Tower Partners
A at example of adaptive reuse, exhibiting re,tainment of
the original character of the winery'.
INDUSTRIAL:
• Sixth Street Distribution Center, by The Barmakian Company
This industrial complex is a prime example of exceeding the
base development requirements to achieve a superior product.
• Vineyard West Mini-storage, by The Barma,kian Company
This project has extensive landscaping which works as an
effective transitional buffer zone between industrial and
residential development.
COMMERCIAL:
Virginia Dare Food Court, by Tower Partners
Regarding an array of attractive Design elements such as lush
landscaping, trellised pathways, and a sound nurturing water
element, the ambiance creates a California oasis dream
setting, nestled within an active community center.
Terra Vista Village, by Dicker-Warmington (Associated with Lewis
Homes)
Sensitivity to detail and richness in Design are exhibited
with thoughtful locations of street furniture and hardscape,
360 degree architecture and superior rear building buffering
from the adjacent residences.
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• Burger King, Terra Vista Village, by Bob Del pit
Exceptional attention to detail iaddressing the unique problems
and issues associated with a fast food chain type uses, in
addition to providing architecture consistent with Terra Vista
Village.
• Victoria Self Storage, by Ni l l i am Lyon Company
Valued: for its residential compatibility and quality in Design
regarding the office/residence building.
MASTER PLAN`:
Victoria Lakes South, by William Lyon Company
Excellence in Master Planning, a plan which may put Rancho
Cucamonga or the map of places to go.
LANDSCAPING: (Special Contribution HonorableMention)
Victoria Heights, by William Lyon Company
A brochure is offered at the Victoria Heights sales office
which demonstrates a premier attempt to educate how buyers
the capability of landscaping and saving water.
REHABILITATION: (Honorable Mention)
Serendipity School , by Hammer -Property Investments
This is an example of a rehabilitation project which
integrates into the neighborhood beautifully in addition to
contributing to the need of child care service.
COMMUNITY T: (Special Contribution - Honorable Mention)
Community Art, by Jerome Mahoney, Independence Corporate Centre
located at the North East Corner of Haven and Sixth Street.
One of the first contributions to public art noted for its
location for which it can 'be shared by the passing motorists
on Haven Avenue.
CITY ,OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
April '1 , 1989
Chairman Mc Niel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho ' Cucamonga
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Planning Commission to order at *OO P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Cuter, 9161'-Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT None
STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, Brad Buller, City;
Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, Tom Gahn,
Assistant Planner, Jeff Gravel, Associate Planner, Barrye
Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, 'Ralph' Hanson, Deputy' City
Attorney, Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner; Brett Horner,
Assistant Planner, Cynthia Moser, Assistant Planner;
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City! Planner, Russ Maguire , City
Engineer; Betty Miller, Assistant Civil Engineer; Beverly
Nissen,' Assistant Planner, Paul Rougeau, Traffic
Engineer, Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Bill Silva, deputy'
City Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Bla esley, carried with McNiel and
Tolstoy 'abstaining, to approve the minutes of February 2 , 1989, as amended.
Motion. Moved by Bla esl y, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of March 3, 1989.
Lion. Moved by Blaesley, seconded by Emerick, carried with Chitiea and
Tolstoy abstaining, to approve the minutes of March 22, 1989, as amended.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -04 - GREUBEL - The design
review- of a self-serve car wash, lu5e sop, an auto etas shop, on 3.
acres of land within the Neighborhood Commercial District,, located at the
southwest corner of Haven and Lemon - APN. ' 01- 6 -48. (Continued from
March 22, 1g ® )
R. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88- 1 - AVERY - A 10,000
square dot it on to an a ast ng ware du se a ng, to ling 43,250
square feet on 2.27 acres of land in the General Industrial District
(Subarea' ) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on the south
side of 9th Street, east of Vineyard Avenue - APN: 9- 1 - .
Chairman McNiel announced that a request had been rude to pull Item A from the
Consent Calendar.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
approve Item D of the Consent Calendar,
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 7-04 - GREUBEL
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jerry Creube , applicant, stated that many residents had not been satisfied
with the project as originally approved. He said they had revised the plans
to et theresidents ' concerns, but the project no longer made economic
sense. He therefore requested he be allowed to withdraw the application and
submit a revised application at s later date.
Terri Brooks, 10331 Orange Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she originally was
not made aware of what was to be constructed on the par'~cel . She wanted to
know what would be submitted and stated she did not want a car wash built.
She said the project as it exists today is nicely built.
John Barna, 6331 Revere, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he wanted to go on record
that the screening landscaping, lighting issues, and hours issue were still
important to the neighborhood. He stated he did not wart a 'fast food
restaurant or a car wash and die not want anything that would bring a lot of
tra ffic
Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Lion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
allow the applicant to withdraw Design Review for Conditional Use Permit 87-
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 87-01 - HARRY C" consideration to modify,'
suspend, or revo e an entrtn perm granted for a disc jockey doing;
vocals and playing records nightly in conjunction with a restaurant/night
club, located at 10877 Foothill Boulevard.
D. ; ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT gg-C - HARRY C' - A request to conduct live comedy
acts, -sync contests, fiiir; a--n-d clothing fashion shows, live
entertainment concerts ,; live Jazz, and; special promotion events for local
businesses and groups in conjunction with a restaurant/night club at 10877
Foothill Boulevard.
Bruce Abbott Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Rich Beswick , stated he had been retained as attorney for Harry C's. He saidi
the calls to the 'Sheriff's department regarding possession of a gun involved'
off-duty law enforcement officers. He said Harry C's wanted to sponsor a
local talent night in order to provide a forum for local' people who wish to
enter the entertainment fields.
Paul Duran, 9158 Conifer Lane , Apartment J, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was
the General Manager for Harry C's. He said Harry C 's had instituted a
"designated driver" program, which provided free non-alcoholic beverages to
"designated drivers". He said they were trying; to arrange for the yellow cab
company to have several cabs waiting at Harry C's at closing time. He stated
he ran a peaceful club and the calls to the Sheriff's Department were
prevention calls made so that situations would not get out of hand.
Chairman McNiel asked the capacity of ;the night 'club.
Mr ran responded it was 364.
Chairman McNiel asked the average occupancy.
Mr ran replied they averaged less than 100 patrons„ including the off-
nights. He stated that on Saturdays there is generally a line out to the
sidevalk. He said they would like to average 200 people per night. He said
he had been managing the club since July 27, 1988, and felt: they had 'shown
considerable improvement.
Jim Engelbart, Entertainment gager for Harry C's , stated the listing o
proposed entertainment reflected the Commission 's concerns stated at previous
stings*
Mr. ge ' ick stated Harry C's wanted to hold a =Chamber of Commerce Mixer for
the Miss Rancho Cucamonga Beauty Pageant on April 19, and he had hoped they
could get approval to allow that event to take place.
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Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea was concerned that calls for ;Sheriffs services would
increase if the entertainment was expanded. She did not feel there had been
substantial improvement and was concerned about expanding the uses.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he had no problem with extending the current
Entertainment Permit. He felt the Planning Commission might consider allowing
a limited expansion of the entertainment for a trial period of 120 days He
felt a live jazz band and telecasting of sporting events would be acceptable.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that Harry C's did not need an
entertainment permit to show closed circuit television.
Commissioner Chitiea was willing to extend the existing Entertainment Permit,
but not inclined to broaden permitted uses to include all of those requested.
Commissioners erick and glakesley concurred.
Commissioner glakesley stated he felt Harry C 's had scaled back on Sheriff's
cads. He felt if there was continued improvement he would support expansion
on a trial basis. He felt live jazz was acceptable.
Otto routil , Deputy City Planner, suggested the Commission might wish to
continue the item to allow time o prepare a Resolution.
Commissioner erick suggested the approval be for a limited time to allow
calculations on which types of entertainment caused problems.
e Planning Commission concurred that a jazz band and comedy were acceptable.
Commissioner Emerick was willing to try the Fashion night for 120 days.
Mr. kroutil stated there were no provisions for a limited time limit on
Entertainment Permits. He stated the Planning Commission could however ask
for a review at the end of six months.
Commissioners Tolstoy and Chitiea stated they did not support fashion shows ,
because they might be provocative.
Commissioner Chitiea opposed the talent night on the basis that no guideline
re proposed.
Commissioner Blakesley' stated he would agree' to the talent night if the
definition were not so open ended*
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Chairman McNiel and Commissioners Tolstoy and Emerick concurred*
Chairman McNiel felt concerts ;would be acceptable, because if they got
provocative acts which caused problems , the Planning Commission could revoke
the permit. He suggested a Resolution of approval be prepared for the next
Planning Commission meeting:
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Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney suggested the Commission might wish to
direct staff to prepare a Resolution to deny the revocation of Entertainment
Permit 8 -01 and continue Entertainment Permit 89-02 to allow the applicant to
modify their request to address the concerns enumerated this evening':
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Beswick suggested the staff could approve the entertainment each week.
Mr routil stated he did not believe it would be appropriate for staff to
approve the entertainment on a weekly basis.
Mr. Beswrick asked if it would be possible to get approval for the Miss Rancho
Cucamonga affair.
Mr'. Kroutil stated City provisions allow staff latitude to approve one-time
special special events. He suggested the Planning Commission could give direction to
staff to approve the Miss Rancho Cucamonga mixer.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that Harry Cs management had not shown good
Judgment in the past and he suggested they pay particular attention to those
who are left in charge when the Manager is not there.
Lion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to direct staff to prepare a
Resolution of denial of revocation of Entertainment permit' 87-01 for the April
26, 1989 meeting. Motion carried by the following vote :
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHI TI EA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS.* NONE
ABSENT* COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to continue Entertainment
Permit 89-02 to April 26, <1989, in order to allow' the applicant ' to Modify
their request. Motion carried by the following vote :
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHI TI EA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: C ISION Sk NONE
ABSENT: C ISSIONERS NE carried
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13898 - NUUUUUNE - A residential
i5MMiW 6f__T_Si`_ngle__faeily lots on 2.47 acreo and in the Low
Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , located at the
northwest corner of Lemon Avenue' and London Avenue - APN: 20 -25]-5
SD. )Continued from March 22, 1989. ).
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Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Henry Nunes, applicant`, stated that lot H was really HC feet wide, but there
a curve at the corner which continued for 15 feet, so the lot was marked
as having only 66 feet of frontage"
Cr. Bonnie Hunt, 6127 Archibald, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that the proposed
master plan seriously affected her property because of the relocation of
Banyan Street. She presented copies of the 1986 City Council Resolution
vacating Banyan Street and stated she did not want Banyan Street relocated per
Tentative Tract 1898's master plan.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, stated that the planning Commission was
only considering a subdivision of eight lots. He stated the applicant was
rewired to submit a conceptual master plan to suggest circulation for the
surrounding area, but approval of the Tract would only mean approval of the
lots, not the master plan.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated no alignment study had been conducted
for Banyan Street. He ;said that if at some point in the future there appeared
to be a need to connect Banyan Street because of traffic, there would be an
alignment study, public hearings, and final' approval by City Council ,
Co issioner Tolstoy felt the subdivision was more consistent with the
neighborhood and he felt it wes a good project.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the plotting represented an improvement. She
favored even larger lots, but felt the tract was acceptable.
Chairman McNiel concurred, but sued the two lots immediately to the west had
limited access. As the lot owners were not protesting, he supported the
pro jec t®
Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by glaele , to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13898. Motion carried
by the followingvote :
AYES: C ISSIQN S: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEI_, TOLSTOY
ES: C ISSINERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried `
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F. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-0 - A. W. DAVIE - A request for expansion of
a noncoh orra ng use y i ng square feet of off ice space to an
existing building and warehouse totaling 4,560 square' feet on 3.82 acres
of land in the General Industrial District (subarea ) of the Industrial '
Specific Plan, located on the southeast corner of 9th Street and Nelms
Avenue - APN: 09® I-5 54. (Continued from March 22, 1989.)
Brett Horner Assistant planner, presented the staff "report.
Chairman McNiel opened` the public hewing.
Charles Doskow, 222 North Mountain Avenue, 10, Upland, attorney for the
applicant, stated they were satisfied with the staff report and appreciated'
the attention given to the matter.
Hearing;no farther testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea pointed out that the applicant had increased the office
space request by 110 feet and she felt that allowing the larger office would
perpetuate the use for a longer period of timeShe felt the fencing should`
be upgraded from chain link to wrought iron and .it landscaping should be more
substantial .
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the City Engineer had already established the
extended time schedule for public improvements.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated the schedule had not as yet been
negotiated. He said the City Code allowed a time frame of 3-12 months and
typically staff Engineers negotiate the time frame.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would be satisfied with allowing staff to
handle the negotiations"
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r. Doskow stated they: felt the public improvements should not be made because
the use of the property would be phased out. in 3-5 years and it was their
understanding at the sidewalk would not be required before that time.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that discussions to-date had centered on the
3-5 year period for full improvements and requested if the planning Commission
concurred with the previous discussions"
Dan Coleman, nior Planner, stated the Minor Development Review would be for
an initial -,year building permit approval period. He stated the clock would
not start running on completion of the improvements until the City had reached
an agreement with A. W. Davies.
sow stated they intended to complete the building addition as soon as
possible, and their proposal was to defer installation of sidewalk , street
trees, and street lights to be completed in a -6 year time fro
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Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated that if the use vas to be in place for -S years and
the improvements were going to be implemented in 3-5 years, then the
improvements would not be done until the use changed.
r. Buller stated the Resolution was drafted to provide flexibility, requiring
the installation of the 13 parking spaces, the relocation of the fencing along
Helms Avenue, the Fencing of 9th Street, and the landscape improvements prior
to the issu_ arye of an occupancy perm_ it for the expansion, _bu_t leaving
vi,ng open the
CityEngineer's ability to extend the t period for completion of other'
.,y
improvements <required in the public right-of-way.
Commissioner Finerick asked if a landscape plan; had been submitted, and what
the tack would be. _
garrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated final landscape plans would be
submitted prior to issuance of building permits.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that because the requested expansion had increased
from 600 square feet to 710 square feet, more landscaping should be
provided. He was not comfortable with vines on 'a chain link fence.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred. She stated that other applicants had
requested Minor Development Reviews and they had been required to upgrade
their properties to current City standards. She felt the Helms Avenue
frontage was important because it could be seen from 9th Street'.
Commissioner Rlakesley concurred' that it was important to screen the outdoor
storage.
Co ` issioner Blakesley stated that if the intent was to use the fence to
support vines for the screening, chain link fencing would be better than
wrought iron.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt a heavily landscaped chain link fence along Helms
would be acceptable.
Commissioner Emerick preferred a wrought iron fence on 9th, and agreed that a
chain link fence an Helms would be acceptable.
Chairman McNiel felt the Commission needed to review the landscape plans. on
9th and Hellman. He felt the property would be used longer than the projected
3-5 years. He favored wrought iron fencing and wanted capital improvements
within 3 years.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred that wrought iron was appropriate for 9th
Street.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the Commission 's Job was to protect the community.
She felt the Design Review Committee should review the landscaping and wall
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treatment on Helms and gth and wanted all capital improvements installed'
within a maximum of 3 ;dears.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Minor Development Review 9-07, with modifications to provide for
Design Review Coamittee approval ' of the landscape plan. Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNTEL, TDESTCY
COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NE carried '
9:00 P.M. - Planning Co is ion Recessed
9:'15 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-0 SHOWBIZ PIZZA
requs tp ett i s oca at t e
sour east corner of Foothill Boulevard and Hellman Avenue - APN: C - 5
ZS & 26. Continued from March ZP, 1989. )
Cynthia' Kinser, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report and distributed
a brochure submitted by ShowBiz Pizza along with a letter from the Rancho
Cucamonga Chamber of Commerce supporting the project.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the concern raised at the neighborhood meeting
regarding service of alcohol had been addressed.
s. Kinser stated that; the applicant already had a beer and wine license.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked the maximum decibel level of noise.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner,, ponded that the maximum was 60 dB from 10:0
P.M. to .CU A.M. and 65 dB from 7:00 A.M. to 10:00 F.M.
Co issioner Rlakesley asked why there were two separate calculations on the
parking for the restaurant.
Mr. Coleman responded that the standards call for a higher parking ratio over
6,000 square feet, because the kitchen does not generally have to be expanded,
providing a greater ratio of patrons.
Chairman McNiel opened the ;public hearing.
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Richard Huston, ShowBiz Pizza, stated they were a wholesome, family oriented
restaurant, with of their business coming from families with children
under b and from families with children under gy He did not feel the
arcade wes typical of arcades which normally attract teenagers. He stated +
there would be no dedicated video area and the arcade would include a puppet
show and games geared to younger children. He stated the arcade could be seen
from throughout the restaurant.
Commissioner Chitiea asked how many video games were being proposed.
r. Huston responded they were proposing 18-1 , including 2 stand-up with the
remainder being rides.
Sue Teran, 8248 Onyx Court, Rancho Cucamonga, opposed the project because she
felt it would create a noisy, unsafe, environment and attract teenagers, who
would hang out in the parking lot. She said the requirement for bike racks
indicated the City felt teenagers would be using the arcade. She was afraid
t trash would be placed near the residences. She stated the restaurant pad
was on a higher grade than the iresidences, and she felt children would' look
over the fence into adjacent ,yards. She said the residents had been told
previously that the back area of the development would not be used for
restaurant pads.
Donna Windhurst, 8217 Onyx Court, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she had previously
been assured that restaurants would not be placed in that portion of the
site. She opposed the arcade. She 'objected the proximity to homes and
felt the sale of beer and wine should not be allowed.
Michael Roy, project developer, stated that one of the constraints of locating
the restaurant wes its size because rowBiz Pizza wanted 10,000 square feet.'
He said they had reviewed ShowBiz Pizza operations in other locations and
determined at it would be a good operation. He said they were prepared to
mitigate the concerns of residents.
Mr. Huston sued that the bike racks were required by the City as part of the
entire shopping center complex. He said trash would be picked up frequently,
r Coleman stated that daily trash pick up was a condition for the center.
Huston stated that the restaurant was noisy on the inside, but the
construction people had assured him that the noise would not carry outside.
He said they strictly control carding of those who wish to drink and watch for
signs of intoxication.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was 'closed.
Commissioner Blakesley did not like the idea that the developer was
restricting future growth at the center because is use would require such a
large number of parking spaces, He did not feel the use would draw an
undesirable clientele and felt they mould be a good neighbor. He felt trash
and noise concerns would be properly mitigated.
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Co' issioner Chitiea was "uncomfortable with the project because parking
requirements could restrict future leasing of the center. She also va s
concerned because both Chuck E. Cheese and Champion Pizza had failed in
Upland. She felt the use wes more of a family arcade/fun renter than a family
restaurant and felt a moretraditional family restaurant would be better
suited to the a rea. She was afraid that extra cars and children outside the
restaurant would cause exterior noise. She' was not comfortable with this use
in this iparticular location.
Co' issi°over Tolstoy indicated that his only concern had been noise. He felt
the two conditions regarding noise in the Resolution would mitigate the
noise. He felt other pads within the project were smaller and he didn 't feel
the use would generate future parking problems.
Commissioner Emerick felt ShowBiz would be a clean user and they would not be
a nuisance to the nearby residents.
Chairman McNiel stated that this particular center has a walking patrol twice
daily. He did not feel there would be a lot of activity behind the building
except for employees leaving at the end of their shift in the evening. He
supported the project but suggested that the applicant make their' employees
aware of the sensitivity of the concerns of the neighbors to the south.
Motion: Moved by E` rick, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution'
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89 D . Motion'
carried by the following vote:
AYES- COMMISSIONERS: L ESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: CHI TI EA
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NE -carried
Commissioner Chitiea stated she ;opposed the project because of the extensive
parking it would require, the failure of similar restaurants in Upland, the
desire for a more traditional family restaurant, and the fear that the use
might be a nuisance to the neighbors.
H. ' ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT
requist to consider Additional
alternatives or the real-ignment, of the north leg of Red Hill Country i Club
Drive by including a raised, curbed median on Foothill Boulevard in order
to eliminate left turns into and out of Red Hill Country Club Drive,
Paul Rougeau Traffic Engineer, presented the staff report, as well as letters
from the Foothill Fire Protection District and Central School District
opposing the installation of a median.
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Commissioner Blakesley asked the expected tiring for widening the railroad
crossing on Foothill Boulevard.
Russ Maguire , City Engineer, estimated ground would be broken in 18-20 months
and construction would take 12-18 months He indicated Alternate 1 would
require another trussel structure , which would add to the time frame.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Chin Bollinger, representing San Antonio Community Hospital , stated they had
been trying to get the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan modified for over 18`
months. He said they had plans for developing their property in process and
he anked the staff and Planning Commission for looking at other
al ` rnatives
Cordon 7wissler, 7879 Sierra Vista , Rancho Cucamonga, felt too much attention
had been given to looking for a quick fix. He said he had talked to other
residents on Red hill and they did not feel that prohibiting left turns from
Foothill Boulevard would be advisable, He thought the road should be brought
in across from San Bernardino Road. He felt parking could` be added behind the
Sycamore Inn to compensate for any lost parking to the east, He wanted to get
rid of the railroad.
Joshua Warren, 7893 Alta Cues , Rancho Cucamonga, stated the traffic problem
on Alta Cuesta has become intolerable. He felt Alternatives 5` or S offered a;
partial solution to the problem of through traffic and favored Alternative 5
because it was the least expensive. He felt people would not use the alley
behind the Sycamore Inn because of the speed bumps.
Rat Lewis, 835 Camino Sur, ;Rancho Cucamonga, asked the Planning Commission to
reaffirm Alternative 4, because shutting down the traffic for the convenience
of those living on Alta Cuesta made it too inconvenient for the other
sidents on Red Hill .
Ronda Hatley stated she had>a townhouse project south of Baker. She wondered
if residents would have to go to Carnelian and make a U-turn to get to her
development.
Wayne McLaughlin, 7939 Camino Predera , Rancho Cucamonga, supported Alternative
4.
Dale Frisby, 7904 Valle Vista, Rancho Cucamonga, supported Alternative 4. He
felt the median would create other problems.
John Cagle, 8508 calle Quebrada, Rancho Cucamonga, stated the installation of
median would add 2.4 miles to his commute, and he supported Alternative 4.
Helen Zwisslbr, 7879 Sierra Vista , Rancho Cucamonga, was concerned that
emergency vehicles would be 'delayed in reaching residences on Red Hill if the
than was installed. She supported Alternative 4.
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Elizabeth Balvis , 8166 Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she owned;
the liquor store at Red Hill Country Club Drive and Foothill . She felt it Wes
not necessary to change the align nt and felt the City should only prohibit
left turn lanes from Red Hill Country 'Club drive onto Foothill Boulevard.
Chairman McNiel asked how many additional residents in the audience had no new
comments but were in support of Alternative 4. Approximately B-B people
raised their hands.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel awed the timing ;on the Amendment.
Mr. Rougeau responded that if the Planning Commission acted this evening,'
staff punned to take the matter to City Council on May B,
Commissioner Chitiea stated she still favored the connection to Grove.
However, because that option was not available, she felt Alternative 4 was
best. She felt the issue of public safety was of paramount importance as
expressed by the Foothill Fire prevention District and, the Central School
District. She wanted a left turn signal of reasonable, not minimal , length.
Commissioner Blakesley felt the current alignment created a problem because it
was too close to Grove, He felt adding a median and leaving the streets in
their current locations' would not solve any problems. He felt Alternative 6
would place a heavy burden on the intersection of Foothill! Boulevard and
Vineyard Avenue. He favored Alternative 4.
Commissioner F..merick felt a significant burden would be imposed on residents
of Red "Hill by adopting Alternatives 5 or 6. He felt having to wait for a
left-turn arrow with Alternative 4 would discourage some of the through
traffic,
Commissioner Tolstoy felt 4 was the only viable alternative, so+ long as a left
turn lane could be constructed long enough to accommodate the traffic. He
felt it+was not practical to require residents to go down the 'street and make
a -turn, He felt the letters from the Fire Protection District and School
District should be considered.
Chairman McNiel felt that if a break was provided in the median for emergency
traffic , it would be used by residents and commuters as ll. He felt the
current transitio on Foothill for vehicles turning left to go south on Grove
and those turning left to +go north on Red Hill Country Club Drive s o
co` d felt the comments from the residents tonight showed strong
support for Alternative 4 and he also favored Alternative 4.
Lion: Moved by Chtiea seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the 'Resolution
recommending Alternative 4i for the Environmental Assessment and Foothill
Boulevard Specific Plan Amendment 8 -C . Motion carried by the following
vote:
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AYES. COMMISSIONERS: RLAKESLEY-, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTCY
ES: C ISSICNERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
10,40 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed
1055 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 1143 - LACY - A'
suv s on o acres o an into-_ pa e-Is in es ential
Development District, located on the south side of Hamilton Street, east
of Hermosa Avenue - APN. C - C1- 3.
Betty Miller, Assistant Civil Engineer`, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Danny Pierce, GVW Engineering, Inc., project engineer, said they agreed with
the staff report and he was available to answer questions.
Terri Brooks, 1031 Orange Street, Rancho Cucamonga, asked what type of
residences would be constructed. She was concerned that toxic wastes may have
been dumped on the property in the past. She was concerned because the site
nest to a kindergarten and she wanted to be sure dirt was kept under
control and the children would not be able to enter the property. She stated
traffic was congested in the area and it would be increased, by the
construction traffic.
Michael Jones, 10354 Mignonette Rancho Cucamonga, was concerned about traffic
congestion® He requested ' single story houses be constructed because the
grading on the property s higher than his adjacent home.
Pierce stated detached 'single family homes would be built-, but the homes
had not been designed as yet. He said there was a block wall next to the
school and construction fencing would be put up behind the sidewalk, so
children would not have access to the site.
Commissioner Chitea asked when construction wes projected to begin if the
project were approved.
Mr. Pierce responded they hoped to begin in 4-6 months.
Chairman McNiel asked if a soils report would be required.
Ir. Pierce responded affirmatively.
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Chairman Mc Niel asked if that would answer the toxics concern.
Commissioner° Tolstoy stated that sails reports en ally only address;
compaction.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated recent legislation requires finding
previous uses for the land,; which should uncover previous ;toxic users.
Otto kroutil , Deputy City Planner, stated that toxics are generally only found
at former industrial sites, and those locations are identified on a map,'
against which all projects are checked.
Jack Corrigan, GVW Engineering, Inc ., stated that lending institutions require
sign off that them are no toxics present.
Chairman McNiel suggested minimum grading be used to help cut down on the dust
erosion. He stated that if two-story houses were used, they could be set
forward on the lots to minimize impact on adjacent homes.
Ms. Brooks stated the fend neat to the kindergarten was only S feet high.
She was concerned that if construction started in 6 months, it would be very
win
Mr. kroutil stated that four lots or less go through staff review. He stated
that erosion control and fencing are standard items that are required.
Ms. Brooks stated that buses have a difficult time getting through the traffic
and with construction next to a school , every precaution must be taken.
Mr'. Pierce stated the construction trucks would probably use Hermosa.
Blearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated that eventually 19th Street would be fully improved, and
signalized and that would help alleviate the traffic congestion. He stated
that every precaution would be taken to condition the development properly.
tion: Moved by T lstoy, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution;
approving Environmental Assessment and.. Tentative Parcel Map 11473. Motion
carried by the following vote-
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NE -carried
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
continua the meeting beyond 11:00 P.M.
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J. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 9 01 - SHELIY' S RESTAURANT - The review of providing
Mi enterta n n an conjunction wa re's aurant use, located at8038
Haven Avenue, Suite E.
Torn Crahn, Assistant Planner, presented tWstaf'f report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
John Marquez, General Manager, asked if it weld be possible to expand the
scope of the Resolution to allow entertainment any night of the week and
during happy hour, times, so that if they should with to provide such
entertainment in the future they would not have to apply for a new permit.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked how much business was for the bar only.
1 l r' alcohol related d _sales.
' revenue s f from alco
r Marquez stated that of their
He estimated that perhaps S of their business was bar only, He said they
proposed no dancing and no cover charge.
Hearing; no further testimony, the public hearing was closed,
Commissioner Chitiea stated she supported allowing music any night and
removing the; limit on hours. She stated they were not proposing any uses;
which she felt would bring in an undesirable element.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed.
Chairman McNiel stated that he envisioned the center as an entertainment
complex He was not opposed to expansion of the hours, suggesting that
Shelly's may wish to have music during brunch.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, ;to adopt the Resolution
approving Entertainment Permit' 9-01, with modification to remove the
restrictions on hours and days. Motion carried by the following vote :
AYES: C MIS.SIONE S: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLST'O
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSES ENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT'S AMENDMENT 89-01 - CITY
OF ques a acres o e eve rip n
Districts map rom ilium Residential ' (8-14 dwelling units per acre) t
Low Medium Residential 4-8 dwelling units per ac )', located
approximately 600 feet south of Lemon Avenue, 470 feet north of 'Highland
Avenue on the east side of Archibald Avenue - APN: 01- 541.
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Jeff Gravel ,!' Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing,
Terri Brooks;, 10331 orange Street, Rancho Cucamonga, asked if a light would be
installed at the intersection of Lemon and Archibald.'
Russ Maguire , City Engineer, stated a light was planned and would probably be
under construction in December.
Hearing; no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea Felt that in the interest of consistency the Amendment
should be adopted.
Motion, Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Development Districts
Amendment - 1. Motion carried by the following vote :
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNl TI EA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTO
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT, COMMISSIONERS: N -carried
L. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89-04 - DELAPi RA - A request to establish the
sae of hardiquor or on_ to consumption at Eel ipe 's, an existing
restaurant of 2,360 square feet on .85 acres of land in the Community
Commercial District of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan (Subarea ) ,
looted in the Miller's Outpost Center at 8017 Archibald Avenue - APN:
1C77-EI- 9.
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report, as well as a
letter from an employee of a nearby shop opposing the sale of hard liquor.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing
Felipe Del apiedra, applicant, stated they run a family restaurant.
Chairman McNiel asked if he planned to increase his hours of operation.
Mr. Belapieda stated he would possibly increase his hours in the summer.
Commissioner Chitiea asked > for comment regarding the letter from the nearby
shop employee.
r. Delapiedra, stated he was not aware of any ` problems caused by his
customers.
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Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick felt the sale of liquor and Mexican food was, a natural '
combination and it would help the restaurant business.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed.
Lion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Conditional ' Use Permit 8 -C4, with modification : to remove the
restriction on hours of sale. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TCLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
M. MODIFICATION TO TENTATIVE TRACT 1659 BL TON - A request to delete a
portion of the locaT-t-r-a-i-F-s-y-s-te-m—A4ja—C6iit o f5i proposed Community Frail
on the south side of 24th Street; for a subdivision of 135 single family
lots nd three common lots on 67.67 acres of land in the Very Low
Residential District (1-2 dwelling units per acre) ;within the Etiwanda
Specific Plan, located at the southwest corner of Etiwanda Avenue and 24th'
.Street - 'APN: 225-111-38 and ' 9.
Steve Hayes, ;Assistant Planner, presented the staff port.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hewing.
Wayne Blanton, applicant, stated he was available to answer questions
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick felt the area was better turned over to the homeowners to
avoid falling into disrepair,
Commissioner Chitiea stated that as the development did not consist of
equestrian lots at this location, she felt it wes appropriate for equestrian
users to utilize the adjacent Community Trail .
Lion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution`
approving Modification` to Tentative Tract 12659. tion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY'
ES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE _carried
Planning Commission Minutes -18- April 12, 198
NEW BUSINESS
N. MODIFICATION TO THE VIRGINIA BARE PARKING STUDY - A review of
mo i to t 'are parking concept and projected parking demand
for the Virginia Dare Center.
Dan Coleman,, Senior Planner, stated - staff was requesting that the item be
pulled to allow time for review of the parking study that had been submitted.
Chairman McNiel requested that the parking study view be completed prior to
Planning Commission review of the proposed additional building.
O IRECTOR'S REPORTS
Nll RI SPECIFIC PLAN - A request to initiate an amendment 1 d
O� I _..UST__.. .. C _ to the. an_
q,
use regu a t i on s fbr 955a rea 7.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff ;report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
David Left, associated with development of Arrow Business Center stated Mid
Valley Management Company was the property management company which operates
the facility for them. He provided picture's of facilitie,s leased to two small
general contractors and one small plumbing contractor. He s tta ted they had
discussed the concept with Brad Buller. He said their typical units were BOO'
feet and all units have office space with some industrial space. He said they
do' not rent to welders" or cabinetmakers, because their uses would be noisy and
dusty, He said their proposed users were generally not on site except for the
office staff, He requested that the use be allowed in the zone ; without a
Conditional Use Permit.
Jack Corrigan, BCE Development, original master planners of the business park,
stated that when the property was originally developed, provisions were' made
to avoid having contractors' storage yards in the area. He stated; that when
the Arrow Industrial Condominiums originally built, ' small general
contractors were allowed and there had never been any problems . He felt the
modification was warranted. He felt the management corporation would police'
any weathered trucks being stored on-site .
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the C &Rs restrict outdoor storage at Arrows
Industrial Condominiums .
Mr. Left stated that their leases prohibit outdoor storage.
There were no further public comments,
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Co issioner Tolstoy stated he felt the proposed use was acceptable so long as
the wording 'prohibited outdoor storage and equipment other than trucks or
service vehicles.
Chairman McNiel stated that electrical and plumbing contractors sometimes buy
old Langendorf panel trucks and haul them to construction sites to store their'
equipment. He did not want those types, of 'trucks left at the; business
centers.
Co ` issioner Tolstoy suggested the ' wording should exclude than type of
vehicle.
Commissioner Blakesley asked if parking ; of a certain; duration ` coup be
prohibited.
Commissioner Chitiea asked who would enforce this provision.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated an inoperable truck would constitute outside
storage; and if there was; no way to make a ' distinction of the kinds of
vehicles that could be parked here, he would be against the Amendment. He
felt if there was some way to word the Pmendment to restrict the inoperable
panel tacks, he would support the change.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that City Code already prohibits
the storage of imperative vehicles at Commercial/I ustrial sites.
Chairman McNiel invited fir. Corrigan to respond.
r. Corrigan stated that as City Code already prohibits the storage of<
imperative vehicles, he felt the property owners would do an adequate job of
policing.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested the Co mission could direct a
modification of the definition of building maintenance services and could
prohibit overnight parking in conjunction with those uses...
Chairman McNiel stated= that he did not want the City get into a problem with
enforcement.
Mr. Corrigan stated that CC&Rs are one of the toughest things to enforce`. He
felt the quality of the project would be the determining factor. He stated
that the applicant did not build and sell , they managed the properties.
There were no further public comments.
It was the consensus of the planning Commission to direct staff to initiate an
Industrial Specific plan Amendment to expand the definition of the Building
Maintenance Services category to pewit small building contractor uses.
Planning Commission Minutes April 12, 1989
P. PLANNING DIVISION WORK PROGRAM 19 9/9O
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the Planning Department was being pushed to wvrk on
projects quickly for ; the benefit of others and that was cutting down on
available staff time for other critical projects. She felt quality was More
important than quantity, even if it meant a slowdown in processing of
projects.
Chairman McNiel stated that special projects were still needed because they
covered critical areas, and he hoped that 'there would be a balance of working
on special projects along with processing applications. We said the
development community would have to understand that with the temporary staff
shortage it would take longer to process in order to allow time to adequately'
review projects.
Commissioner Toltoy stressed quality review including sitevisits and
inspections and agreed slowing the process may be appropriate.
r Krotil stated that according to the Building Department, permits are up''
significantly this year, which means that playa checks and inspections have
greatly increased;.
r Buller suggested that he would be looking into the review process and
would be proposing options to the Planning Commission to maintain the level of
service desirable. One example Haight be to licit the number of items placed
on the Design Review Committee agendas to three per side. ` The purpose of this
would be to lessen the burden on the Committee and staff to allow adequate
quality review time.
Chairman McNiel stated he felt in-house special projects were critical .
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt the Hillside Grading Ordinance s
critical .
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no additional commission business at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no additional public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Planning Commission Minutes - 1- April 12, 1989
Motion; Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Slakesley, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
1 A.M. planning Connission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
p
Brad Bul er
Sec re ta ry
I,
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION I :UTES
Adjourned tin
April 6, 1989
Terra Vista Town Center Workshop
Chairman Larry iel called the special workshop meetingorder at : C
p.m. at the Rancho Cucamonga Nei hb orhood Center, 9791 Arrow i Rancho
Cucamonga.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT David Blakesley, Suzanne, hitiea, Bruce
E ei , Larr ,. McNi
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT Peter Tolstoy
Staff Present: Brad Buller, CityPlanner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Otto routil , Deputy City Planner ; Debra ier,
Associate Planner; Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer
Tom Bond, of Architects PacificaS described the concept of the new Montgomery
Ward corporate image. He stated the new style includes ree entries, the
main entry to the store , Electric Street and Kids Store. The main entry was
covered with a truss reminiscent of Green and Green style architecture set
atop two large con terra stone columns. con terra 'stone is also included as
a wainscot across the front wall the entire height of the entry is see-
through lass.
r!. Bond stated that. the Electric Street entry includes a trellis set at
skew to the building face. Colors used at this entry include teal green and
re d-
r. Bond stated that the Kids Store entry is more traditional and comes close
to etin e design goal of the project. The elements are of a smaller
scale and are very symmetrical .
The general response by the Planning Co mission was that the design was
disjointed and discontinuous. Specifically, they had the following o nts-
1. The concept of the truss at the main entry is acceptable. They
suggested that the truss be scaled too smal 1 , and suggested
wider/taller structure with modification to the building face.
P. The Electric Street entry is not acceptable as proposed and should be
redesigned. The Commission suggested deleting trellis and using
an arcade, or utilizing arches with portico details. The Commission
felt that adding the arches would provide an opportunity tD add
detail and richness. element should be considered as well as
a new palette of colors.
3. The'Co issio oid out that the southwest elevation will be an
important element to the Foothill Boulevard streetscape and would
need considerable attention.
. The si n ge concepts shorn were acceptable and actually help break
the building area. The Electric Street and Kids StDre signs e should
be "maximum height of ".
. The combination of the individual design elements would need to be
integrated to create a wre unified project.
The meeting adjourned at 10:30 P
Respectfully submitted,
ABra�dBu er
City Planner
Planning Commission 2- April 6, 1989
CITE" OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
'arch 30, 1989
ETI ANNA NORTH OR SHOP
Chairman Larry MdNiel called the adjourned March 30, 1989 Etiwanda North
Planning Commission Workshop to order at approximately 4:30 p.m. at the
Neighborhood Center, located at 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. The
adesign chi tedtura content of the
i to ' review
purpose of .the meeting a
Specific Plan.
POLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: ` David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce`
Emer ick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstdy
STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner; Milo Ertt, Associate
Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner-, Dan Coleman, Senior
Planner; doff Gravel , Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson,
Senior Civil Engineer; Larry Henderson, Senior Planner;
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner; Betty Miller, Assistant
Civil Engineer, Beverly Nissen, Assistant' Planner; Bill
Silva, Deputy 'City Engineer
Miki Bratt, Associate Planner, gave a brief update ;on staff' s review of the
Specific Plan. She discussed the status of the fiscal analysis, density/unit
count, ;flood control land opportunities, grading, green bolt concept, narks
and open space and equestrian lot counts. She then asked for an open
discussion.
Commissioner Emerick stated' that he was very concerned about the use of Day
Creek Canyon regarding the use of the land and its access. He felt it should
not be restricted, except during the fire season.
Joe ili orio, President of the Caryn Company, concurred with Commissioner
E erick' and suggested that this be made into a special work item.
Commissioner Emerick suggested moving or transferring density away from the
canyon area.
r. pildrio ;stated that Landmark Land Company now owns the land around and in
the Bogiand canyon area. He stated that there was a possibility that Landmark`
Land Company may consider an open, non-private community plan.
s. Bratt suggested that the development line be pulled down from the hillside
to be consistent with the National Forest boundary. There was a general
concurrence that this concept be considered.
Commissioner Farerick suggested a parking lot trail-head be located further
down from the development line, and provide an open space corridor for access
into the canyon area. He felt Knoll l Park 'would be a logical spot for trail-
head parking, with a hiking trail maintained to the gaging' station.
s ratt stated that the 'Forest Service is suggesting that the open space
corridor connect the Bog and the 'canyon.
Commissioner Chit ea questioned the breakdown on the number of equestrian lots
that will be allotted in the planned area and requested that a more detailed
analysis of equestrian lots be prepared.
Mr. Cilorio responded that of the total lots in the Etiwanda North
Specific Plan area will be eligible for equestrian use.
Commissioner Chitiea questioned the location of the equestrian center
indicating that the east side of the Specific Plan should be considered for
the equestrian center.
Mr. Cilorio responded that the equestrian center was tentatively planned on
the eastern edge of the Day Creek spreading grounds. However, the center
could possibly be located closer to the center of the plan area, rasing Flood;
Control land*
Mr. gilorio suggested that Flood Control, City staff, Caryn Company and the
consortium form a task force to study use of Flood Control lands.
Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, indicated that because other agencies will
need to review the plans, the concepts being discussed, using Flood Control
lands, should appear on the plans as soon as possible.
Commissioner Tolstoy had a concern regarding the discussion of concepts which
are not on paper. For eagle, the gaging station is not located on most of
the naps presented by the { and/Plan/Design 'Croup.
Mr, giorio also stated that to complete the financial planning' for this
project area, density is the most important. issue. In addition, he stated
that it would be difficult to tell the members ' of the consortium that
denrsitios may be reduced by annexing into the City. He stressed that the
consortium is looking for the City to allow what the County allows at its; base
level of density.
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated that the Commission could only give a
general indication that the density numbers are in the right ball park. He
stated that the Commission can and will make a definite decision during public'
hearings.
Mr, gilorio stated that it was very important to lock in the density numbers
and establish a financial plan as soon as possible so that it could become'
effective July 1, 1989, the same time Eti anda Highlands begins to sell
homes. He stated Fti anda Highlands will ;set a precedent for the rest of the
project area in terms of taxation.
Planning Commission Minutes March 30, 1989
Commissioner Mc Niel asked the difference in density numbers between the City
and County.
rr. Henderson responded that the numbers are ;fairly equal , except for• the
Tracy property which has the biggest single difference. He stated the
County' s density is RES 3, or 3 dwelling units per acre, while the City has 3
different designations on this particular property: flood control , open space,
and 2 dwelling units per acre.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the adequacy of the grading plan. He also
questioned whether the grading plan would allow less density than the Specific ;
Plan indicates.
r ilnrio stated that if the City accepts the grading concept presented in
the Specific Plan, and the outcome of the concept will only; allow a lower
density, he would accept the loss in density.
Commissioner Tols oy questioned if the streets follow the contour lines of the
topography.
Jess Harris responded the collector streets primarily follow the contours'.
Bill Silva, ,Deputy City Engineer, stated that are still some outstanding
issues that need to be addressed ;by the City traffic study.
r. lilorio stated that he felt these should be dealt with at a staff level .
He briefly reviewed some of the revisions concerning architectural guidelines,
development regulations, parks, and open space.
The meeting was adjourned at -35 p.m. with the next greeting tentatively
scheduled for May 4, 1989. The applicant was requested to prepare and submit
the graft Specific Plan document in a completed force for review by staff at
lust two weeks prior to the next greeting.
Respectfully submitted,
44
ran Bulole
Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes 3- March 30, 1989
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
March 22, 1989
1
Chairman Nciel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Pare
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
Niel then led in the pledge ofallegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Bruce Finerick Larry
MlcNiel
ABSENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Peter Tol toy
STAFF PRESENT; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner,;
Tom Brahn, Assistant Planner, Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer, Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Russ
Maguire , City Engineer; Debra Meier, Associate Planner;,'
Betty Miller, Assistant Civil ' Engineer; Scott Murphy,;
Associate Planner; Cindy Norris , Assistant Planner; Gail
Sanchez, Secretary; Bill Silva, 'Deputy City Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Bari Buller, City Planner, announced that the City had received requests from
the respective applicants for Items C D, F, C, and L to continue the items.
Mr. Buller announced that the Commissioners may Irish to continue Item I to the
next meeting, as several Commissioners had stated they would prefer to have
the full Commission hear the item.
Chairman McNiel presented a Resolution of Commendation to Scott Murphy,
Associate Planner, for his years of service.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairman McNlel requested that no action be taken on the February 22, 198
minutes until the three Commissioners present at that meeting could review
them,
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick unanimously carried to
approve the minutes of March B, 1989.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1389 - NUNEZ - A residential
u r v i s on d s n 3 arni y ots on « -6c s o and in the Low
Residential District 2-4 dwelling units; per acre) , located at the
northwest coroner of Levan Avenue and London Avenue - APN: 201- 51'-S
SD. (Continued from January 25, 1989. )
Chairman McNiel announced that the applicant had requested the item be
continued until April 12, 1989.i He asked if anyone in the audience wished to
speak regarding Item D, and there was no response,
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13898 to April 12, 1989.
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSES ENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAC" 11212 - WAGNER INSUL CO.
su v lion o a s o an into garde s n t e n�mum mpac
Heavy Industrial District (Subarea 9) of the Industrial Specific Plan,
located on the south side of Bth Street, west side of Rochester Avenue
APN': 229-251-10, 11, 12, 27,''. & 32
A VARIANCE 88-23 - WAGNER INSTIL CO. - A west for a reduction of the
mi n'i mum of s�ze from ac re s to' acres within the Minimum Impact <Heavy
Industrial District (Subarea 9) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located
on the south side of 8th Street, west side of Rochester Avenue - APN 229-
251-1D, '1 , 1. , 2 , & 3 .
Chairman McNiel announced that the applicant had requested the items be
continued until April 26, 1989. He asked if anyone in the audience wished to
speak regarding Items and G, and there was no response.`-
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11212 and Variance
88-23 to April 26, 1989.
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 9-03 - SHOWBIZ PIZZA
TIME - reques o es s an area e w t n a staurant oce a t e
southeast corner of Foothill ` Boulevard' and Hellman Avenue - APN 20 -21-
2S & 26.
Chairman McNiel announced that the applicant had requested the item be
continued until April 12, 1989. He asked if anyone in the audience wished to
speak regarding Item L?, and there was no response.
Motion: Moved by E ' rick, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89-03 to April
12, 1989.
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I. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89- 7 - A. W. DAVIES - A request for expansion of
a non-conforming use a ng square feet of office space to an
existing building and warehouse totaling 4,560 square feet on 3.82 acres
of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea ) of the 'Industrial
Specific Plan, located on the southeast corner of 9th Street and Helms
Avenue - APN.' 09-031-5 & 54.
Chairman McNiel Mated that the item had been continued from the March 8
meeting and that the Commissioners would prefer to continue the item until
April 1 , in order to allow the full Commission to consider the item.'
Chairman McNie,l asked if the applicant would agree to the continuance.
Lea Davies, applicant, stated they had no objection.
Chairman McNiel asked if anyone else in the audience wished to speak regarding
Item D, and there was no response®
Motion: Moved by 81akesloy, seconded by Emerick , unanimously carried, to
continue Minor Development Review 89-07 to April" 12, 1989.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. VACATION OF Aiii LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE ACCESS EASEMENT _ A request, to vacate
a ME55i ' iiiiMinance easement et ' en Wheaton Court and the Southern
Pacific Railroad's right-of-way, "located west of Milliken Avenue and north
of Base Line Road - APN 202-891- & 39.
B. TIME EXTENSION FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 86-45 - AJA - A five lot Master Plan
o c re s An ` eve op n o ots an of the Mas ter Plan; Lot P
consisting of a 41,600 square foot industrial building on .32 acres and
Lot' 3 consisting of a 51,250 'square foot Industrial building on 2.72 acres
of land, in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 12) , located on the east
side of Pittsburgh, north of 4th Street and south of 6th Street - APN.
9- 633 & 4.
C. RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND "DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
reques o a n e
eve o n s r cf Map from Flo Cofitrol (FC) to Medium Density
Residential (M) (8-14 dwelling units per acre) , which encompasses 1.6
acres of land located on the west side of Carnelian Avenue, approximately
1,000 feet south of Calle del Prado - APN: 7-022-64. (Continued from
March 8, 1989. )
Item C was removed for discussion.
Motion. Moved by 8lksle,y, seconded by Eerick, unanimously carried to adopt
Items A and 8 of the Consent Calendar.
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C. RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL <ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
CREEL,s
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Stan Scates, Burgundy Creek, Ltd., requested that the Planning Commission
continue the item to allow them to present their Design Reviews package to the
Planning Commission.
Chairman Mc Niel stated he had no;objection' to continuing the project. He felt'
the project was in an awkward location which weld require engineering to work
up traffic numbers.
Ralph Hanson, City Attorney, stated that if the Planning Commission was going
to entertain the; possibility of taking any action other than the denial , it
would require a public hearing. Therefore, he stated the appropriate action
would be to pull the item.
Chairman McNiel asked if that would negatively affect the applicant.
Brad Buller,; City Planner, Mated that if the Planning Commission would allow
the applicant to proceed through Design Review' with his development package,
the applicant could then determine whether he wanted to reapproach the
Commission with the Development; District Amendment. In that case, both the
deve,lopment of the project and the zone change could ` be considered
concurrently and .would' be readvertised.
It was the consensus of the Commission to pull Resolution of Denial for
Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 87-12 from the
agenda.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 92 - THE PLIES
subdiviMh R 39.5 acres o an In p�rce s
in t e nera Industrial District (Subarea B) of the Industrial Specific
Plan and the Light Industrial District (Subarea 4) of the Foothill'
Boulevard Specific Plan, located; north of Arrow Route, east of the 1-1
Freeway, and south of Foothill Boulevard - APN: 9-0 1- 9
Barye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the s ff report.
Chairman McNiel opened` the public. hearing.'
Tom Carmody, The Keith Companies, stated he represented Mr. Plies, the
applicant. He said they supported the staff report and would be happy to
answer any questions.
Chairman McNiel asked, 'what was planned for the area.
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Mr Carmody responded that they planned varied uses conforming with the
specific plan.
Chairman McNiel stated that he wished to go on record as stating that the
Planning Commission had rigid architectural , maintenance, landscaping, and
screening standards for properties which can be viewed from the freeway.
suggested the applicant contact the City Planner for information regarding the
1-15 corridor concepts.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that a condition could be added to the
Resolution to reflect that the master plan wes conceptual only and would be
subject to future development design review approval .
i
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesley concurred with Chairman McNiel that the developer would
need to be sensitive to the freeway view. He also stated that screening might'
be complicated because of the Edison easements on the property.
Lion. Moved by Bla esley, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 9326, with
modification to indicate that the master plan was conceptual' only. Motion
carried by the following vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS- CHIIIEA, TOLSTCIY -carried
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 117 RDIC - A
i Ms on 6 acres o an nto parce 5 e Very Low
Residential Development District, located at the southwest corner of
Hermosa Avenue and Almond Street -' APN:' 1074- 51-Ell. Associated with this
is free Removal Permit No. 89-1 .
Betty Miller, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel asked if a fault line had been identified on the property.
Ms. Miller responded that the property in the Alquist-Prioo zone, but no
fault line had been identified on the property.
Scott Murphy, satiate Planner, stated the actual fault line was north of
Almond.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing.
Jerry Wilson, Civil Engineer for the applicant, stated he Wes available to
answer any questions,
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Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he was 'concerned regarding the plotting of the
units relative to the proposed trail , as the trail bisected the lots
approximately 130 feet back. He stated the Trails Committee had discussed the
matter and it appeared not much could be dune regarding placement of the
tail , so the developer would need to be sensitive to the problem when he
plotted the houses,
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that much of the back half of the
parcels was in the flood control flood sway, so those portions of the lots were
not buildable land
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hewing to ask the developer how he
planned to provide access to the back portions of the lots.
Mr' Filson stated the developer planned to gate across the trail to allow
access, ' but the flood Tway through the area had a deep swale and it would be
difficult to make a walking trail to get down into the Mood way and up into
the other side.
Brad Buller, City Planner,; stated that a condition would be placed on the
design of the trail to require an access gate on both sides of the trail to
allow access from the 'home site through the trail to the back portion of the
lot.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Blake le , seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11738. Motion
carried;by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, IMCN EL
ES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, '`TDLSTDY _carried
J. MODIFICATION TO VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 13823 - DEC - A request t
c ange a prey ous - approve' ract map rom a one-lot subdivision to a
five-lot ' subdivision for the development of 265 condominium units on 18.9
acres of land in theMedium-High Residential District (14-24 dwelling
units per acre) , located east of Haven Avenue on the south side of Lemon
Avenue - A N: 1` 2 1-79.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Blakesley' asked the percentage of substandard size units in the
development to the west.
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Mr. Murphy did not have that information available.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. ;
Rick Eisenberg, Devcal Industries, stated that the property to the west did
not have any units smaller than 550 square feet. He stated they were
requesting the subdivision of the lots only for financing purposes and to
allow escrows for the buyers to close quicker.
Chairman McNiel Mated that the City had revised the minimum size to 650
square feet because many smaller units were being proposed. He was
uncomfortable with the' 55 square feet units.
Mr`. Eisenberg stated that the other five floor plans were considerably larger
and there were only 47 units that were 535 square feet.
Chairman McNiel asked 'how many buildings were involved.
Mr. Eisenberg stated there were 5 different building types, three of which'
contained the smaller units.. He said they had processed through a second plan
check and grading was already started. He said a redesign for larger units
would require a significant amount of rework.
Chairman McNiel asked what aevcal would do if the Modification was conditioned
to require larger units.
r Eisenberg stated they would then respectfully request that their
application be withdrawn. He said they would prefer to deal with the lenders'
on financing than to redesign the tract.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Finerick felt that as the developer was merely asking for a change
for financing purposes and the development process was so far advanced, it
would be a hardship on the developer to require strict adherence to the new
standards.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he would like larger units, but realized that if
the modification was denied, the units would still be built at 535 square
feet.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded` by Hlakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Modification to Westing Tentative Tract 13823. Motion carried by
the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIE
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
AISE Tr COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLS OY -carried
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K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 14011 - PANNON DESIGN
res ent a u vision an esign lots on
9.2 acres of land in the Low-Medium Residential District (4-8 dwelling
units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Lemon Avenue and
London Avenue _ ,APN: 01- - 1 A 22. Associated with this is Tree'
Removal Permit No. -1 .
Tom Grahn, Assistant ; Planner, presented the staff report along with an
addendum suggesting a modified Resolution, which provided for the developer to
request reimbursement for one-half the cost of flood control construction; from
future development on; the opposite side' of the channel and provided for
alternatives for the maintenance of Lot A to be approved by the City Engineer
and City Attorney.
Commissioner Emerick asked for clarification of the options regarding Lot A.
r Grahn stated that the minimum average lot size is 6,000 square' feet. He
said that if Lot A was created for access purposes, it would be pawed and
could not be considered in the average lot size. Then the minimum ,average lot
size would be below 6,000 square feet.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Peter Laden, Pannon Design, stated they were agreeable to all conditions of
the project and requested that the Commission approve option A of the Addendum
presented this evening'. He stated that the developer felt the requirement for
a Homeowners' Association would create a hardship.
Chairman McNiel asked the width of Lot 41 if Lot A was removed.
Mr. Laden responded that it would be 60 feet.
Michael Grant, attorney with Best, Best, and Krieger, stated Pannon had tried
to acquire the 44 foot railroad easement parcel to the south and failed. He
requested that. the Planning Commission adopt option A, allowing an easement
for the access. He felt that since the access strip was so small , it would b
difficult to form a Homeowners' Association just to maintain the small area.
He stated that if the strip was set up as a Lot 'A, it would require a variance
and that would delay the process.
Commissioner Blakesley asked if the proposed easement would fall entirely
within Lot 41 and would be surfaced with asphalt.
Grant stated the easement would fall entirely within Lot 41 and the
conditions required that it be pawed and have E foot ` high walls on, both
sides. He stated they were not suggesting any changes.
r Laden suggested that if the easement was adopted, it should be left as a
greenwa,y and not paved and walled off until the developer of the lot to the
south would need it. He indicated Pannon would be willing to improve the area
when needed. He suggested adding instructions in the escrow; that it was an
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easement for future development, and suggested that the owner of Lot 41 should
maintain it.
Chairman Mc Niel stated that it would constitute a large piece of land and he
felt it was unfair to ask one homeowner to maintain it but not be able to use
it. He said that in the addendum to the staff report, a mention was made that
the developer had offered to eliminate one •lot.' He asked which lot would be
eliminated.
Mr. Laden stated the offer was made in a discussion prior to being advised by
Mr. Grant that a better solution would be to allocate the easement to Lot 41,
which would allows the lots to be in conformance without+ elimination of one
lot.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner glakesley felt the easement would be used just enough to be a
nuisance to any adjacent owner. He stated that even if an easement was
created, the land`` would still be removed from the usable area of the tract,
and, he favored elimination of one lot,
Commissioner Emerick stated one lot needed to be eliminated just to be at the
minimum average lot size.
Commissioner Blakesley agreed that a Homeowners ' Association; should not be;
formed just to maintain the minimum area.
Commissioner Emerick agreed that Homeowners' Association administrative costs
would be greater than the maintenance costs'.
Chairman Mc Niel asked if anything was planned for the railroad right-of-way
land if they should obtain the parcel .
Mr. Gratin stated the developer 's Alternative "A" tentative tract 'map would
merely extend the adjoining lots. He stated that if Pannon could not obtain
the parcel , the current property owner would have the option to develop the
land.
Dan Coleman, Senior Manner, stated that it did not seem likely that a
building could be proposed to fit on 'a parcel that shape. He stated it was'
re likely that it might be used for agricultural purposes.
Commissioner glakesley stated he would like to see the average usable lot size'
increased.
r. Coleman stated that the strip of land could' become a fire 'hazard, because
it would be totally surrounded by development and it would be difficult for
need abatement control . He said that without a paved access, the fire
department would have a difficult time getting in to combat a fire.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he would be in favor of allowing an easement,
but requiring the loss of a lot.
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Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, asked who would own the easement.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he had no objections to the easement being owned'
by Lot 41.
Mr. Hanson stated that the revised- conditions contained a provision for
acceptance of an alternative to the owners " Association, subject to
approval of the City Engineer and City Attorney.
r. Coleman stated that staff recommended the item be continued if the
Planning Commission wished to modifythe map, in order to allow the developer
time to modify the map and staff time to consider the conditions.
Chairman Chair n MlcNiel supported continuance, as it would also allow the developer to
attempt once more to obtain the former railroad right-of-wady.
r. Hanson stated that the applicant would need to consent to a continuance.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to allow the applicant to comment.
Mfr. Laden stated they had already been in process for one year and that he
would like the approval of the Planning Commission for option A this evening.
Chairman McNiel stated that the Planning Commission was leaning toward
adapting option C, a continuance to allow time for submission of revised plans
with one lot eliminated. He said the additional time would also, allow for
more time to attempt to acquire the rail road parcel .
Mr. Laden stated that the owner had commented he would not sell the parcel for
$1 000,0C4. He felt it wes not his fault and it was unfair to require that he
give up one more lot and wait another 'month before being able to proceed.`
Chairman McNiel stated that the minimum standards are set so that when the
City is built out, it will be liveable He stated that the problem was also
not the fault of the City and he favored continuing the item.
r Laden stated ;that he could not Trait for the owner of the south parcel to
sell and he would therefore instruct his engineer to drop a lot. He sta te d he
would like action tonight, but he would be willing to continue the item i
necessary.
Russ Maguire , City Engineer, suggested approving a base tentative tract ma p
with 47 lot ,and the Al terna to "A" tract map, Which would include the railroad
parcel and a total of 48 lots. That way the developer would net have to
return to the Planning Commission for approval if he should be successful i
obtaining the extra land. The developer would merely record whichever map he
wanted. He felt that if the additional land was not obtained, it was
important to keep; the access easement open for weed abatement and emergency
fire services access and that if one lot ' owned the easement, they would use
the land. He therefore felt that it was unfair to burden one property owner
to maintain the easement.
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Commissioner Blakesley agreed to allowing two alternates to the tract map.
Commissioner Emerick asked if it world be necessary for the Commission
determine which lot was dropped.
r. Coleman stated that the Co mission could approve the Vesting Tentative
Tract with a condition that one lot be dropped for one alternate and the
Alternate A shown in the staff report as the other alternate , or they could'
continue the item to see which lot would be dropped.
Chairman McNiel stated that dropping one lot would definitely improve the
project.
Commissioner Emerick felt it was not necessary to see which lot was dropped.
Nor. Laden s to ted ;that if one lot was dropped they would prefer to drop a lot
from the cul-de-sac street. be suggested dedicating the easement to the City
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed,
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that the City did not want the
ownership of`the easement.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated that it would be necessary to know
the substantial configuration of the lots at the time the Tentative Tract Map
was adopted because the final map has be in conformance with the tentative
map.
Chairman McNiel asked if it would be possible to adopt the Resolution subject
to Engineering and Planning approval ,
r. Silva suggested calling a recess to allow the applicant to advise which
lot would be eliminated, and to allow staff to consider the wording of the
conditions.
8:30 - Manning Commission Recessed
8:40 - Planning Commission Reconvened
Mr. Maguire suggested that Alternate A be adopted s an alternate to the
Tentative Tract hap. He suggested the basic tentative be adopted with the
condition that one of the lots from Lots 13 through 18 be eliminated, with the
area redistributed to provide for S; lots instead of 6 in that area,' He
suggested the access be Lot A with a change in wording to provide that the
ownership and maintenance of Lot A be established to the satisfaction of the
City planner, City Engineer, and City Attorney._
Lion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Vesting Tentative Tract 14011 with
modifications to allow adoption of basic map with one lot eliminated and an
alternate p of 48 lots with the addition of the former railroad right-of-way
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and with ownership and maintenance of Lot A to be established to the
satisfaction of the City Planner, City Engineer, and City Attorney. Motion
carried by the following vote :
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, EMERICk, MCNIEL
NOES: C ISSICNERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TQL Off` -carried
OLD BUSINESS
M. SAPPHIRE- TRAIL - Review of proposed community trail improvements on the
st iiTe-W—S-apphire Strut, south of Banyan Street.
Sett Murphy , Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Blakesley asked the height of the top rail on the 3 foot fence.
rMurphy responded that the top rail height was approximately 2 feet 8
inches.
Commissioner Emerick asked the purpose of the breaks.
r* Murphy stated they were to provide an escape hatch to give people an
opportunity to exit the trail area if they saw >a horse coming in the opposite
direction.
Chairman McNiel asked if the current break in the fence at the local
equestrian trail would remain.
Mr. Murphy stated the, proposal was that the break should remain open, with
staff monitoring it. If it s felt the break causing a problem, it would
then be closed.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Linda Valenti , 6278 Marble Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated the break points
were needed not only to allow people exit the trail when a horse Vas
approaching, but also to allow pedestrians to exit the trail when meeting
children riding bikes. She stated the fence had already been vanda,lized, with
one of the posts already broken and one of the rails down. She felt that with
the large number of children in the area the fence would be subjected to
future b u se
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Rlakesley felt the fence was a handsome and functional
improvement since its modification with the increased sight corridors. He did
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not support any additional breaks. He did not support the lower height of the
fence because he felt a horse might trip over the fence if it bolted. He felt
the height should be kept at 4 feet 6 inches. He agreed the local trail
should be kept open unless it proved to be a problem.
Commissioner Emerick stated that it appeared the Trails Committee and
residents had agreed that a 3 foot fence would be appropriate. He felt the
members of the Trails Committee would have more expertise than he did and
since they were willing to compromise down to the 3 foot height, he would be
willing; to accept the 3 foot fence with the 2 rail design. He didn 't like the
idea of brow points and felt that people with strollers could use the
sidewalk on the opposite side of the street,
«
Murphy stated the Trails Committee would prefer no breaks in the fence.'
He stated a number of different fend heights were considered and the 3 foot
fence was a compromise agreed to by the residents and a representative from
the riding club based upon direction from City Council to explore the idea of
lowering the height.
Chairman Mc Niel agreed with the height and concurred that no additional breaks
should be added® He felt that if a horse got spooked near a break , it would
run into the street and be hit. He felt the height should be lowered in this
case only, and this area should not be used as a precedent for 'other trails in
the City. He stated he would be inclined to dose off the break at the local'
equestrian hail .
Commissioner glakesley felt that if someone was exiting the local trail in a
pickup the sight line was acceptable, 'but a car could have problems with ;sight
line visibility.
Chairman McNiel asked if the 30-inch height would help the sight' line
visibility from a: car.
r Murphy stated the lower fence could help, He also stated that the Trails
Committee recommended ' that ` the lower fence height would apply only to this
section of the trail and that the City should explore other options for other
sections tion of the City.
Brad Buller, City planner, asked if the other Commissioners agreed that the
design of the fence in this section should be for this section only.
Commissioners Blakesley and Fmerick concurred that the fence design was for
this section only.
Chairman McNiel summarized that the Commission was at a -1 consensus on the
height being lowered to 3 feet, and a -C consensus on providing for no
additional breaks.
Mr. Murphy stated the residents would like the fence pulled back away from the
local equestrian trail corner to provide for better sight'line'visibility.
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Co' issioner Emerick asked if there had been any discussion regarding closing;
the local trail access.
Mr. Murphy stated the residents have indicated they do not wish to see the
trail access closed because they use the area for access by construction
vehicles for building of pools, back yard maintenance, etc.
Commissioner Emerick stated that. he felt it was good for the homeowners to
have access to the rear of their lots.
o issioner Elakesley asked if the southern boundary of the tract had any
other rear-yard access except off of Sapphire.
Mir. Murphy confirmed they did not have other access. '
Commissioner Blakesley felt the trail access should be kept open.
Commissioner Emerick asked who maintains the tail .
Murphy stated the local homeowners have to maintainthe tail .
Commissioner erick felt that vehicles traveling over the area would help to
keep weeds down.
The Commissioners concurred -1 to leave the access open, with Monitoring tD
be conducted by staff to see if any problems arose.
Chairman McNiel invited further public comment.
Ms. Valenti ; stated that she had spoken ;to the S Ms District At rney 's
office and had been informed that because the easement had been in existence
for over 7 years it must remain open.
Russ Maguire , City Engineer, stated that he felt state law would allow the
access to be closed off so lore as there was another access.
NEW BUSINESS'
N. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13748 - GRIFFIN HOMES - The design
rev ew o u i 1 d ng a ev at I Ions an e r e sI a pan dr a previously
approved Tentative Tract Map consisting of 10 single family lots on 28.8
acres of land in the Low Medium Residential District (4 g dwelling units
per acre) , located north of Highland, west of Milliken - AP'N: 1- 71-55
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner , presented the staff report and suggested
adding a condition to provide for tint or texture treatment be added to all
driveways or that 15% of the units provide a bonus room to the garage.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
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Tian Beedle, Griffin Homes, stated they had gone through a number of ichanges as
'result of staff and Design Review comments. He said they had no problem
with the condition added. He said the tract was an approved 'tract, and they
re merely changing units to add a new model .
Chairman Mc Niel asked if Griffin planned to add the enhanced driveway paving
or the bonus room to the garage.-
Mr. Beedle stated that the bonus room expansion was not possible because the
floor plans in the garage area did not provide for a good transition and also
the market was geared toward 3-car garages. He said he understood that Design
Review wished to see a modified front, and they were planning to add brick
agent paving in front of the units,
Commissioner Blakesley` stated that Design Review was looking for an interior
-car garage with an exterior look ofliving space plus a -car garage®
Mr. Beedle stated they were willing to put, in driveway patterns of texture or
back and that would give more character to the houses.
Brad Buller,' City Planner, suggested that the Planning Commission might wish
to consider side windows in some of the garages.
Commissioner Finerick felt a window in the garage was a good idea, because it
added interest to'a blank, stucco wal1 .
Mr. Beedle asked' if they could examine and return to staff and perhaps;
alternate with some models hawing windows and others' having brick patterns in
the driveway.
There were no further public comments.
Chairman Mc Niel stated he would like to see enhanced driveway patterns on all
units and add windows to some units, He suggested they return to the City
Planner for approval on the windows.
Motion: Moved by Emerick seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Design Review for Tentative Tract ` 13748 with modifications to
provide for enhanced pawing to be reviewed by Design Review and addition of
garage windows to selected units to be approved by the City Planner. Motion'
carried by the following vote :
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NO ES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EHITIEA, 'TOLSTOY carried
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D. DESIGN REVIEW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-04 - DPEUHEL - The design
review o a se -serve 'car , ; u e s op, and auto shop, on
acres of land within the Neighborhood Commercial District, located at the
southwest corner of Haven and Lemon - APN: 201- 2-48.
Debra Meier, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Jerry Greubel , applicant, stated he had been in the car wash business 'since
1978 and had developed another ear wash in 198 stated he had meti with
the residents of the area and they had raised three concerns. (1 ) visibility
from the can wash, ( ) visual screening of the car vash, and ) hours of
operation He felt they had addressed the concerns adequately . They agreed'
to restrict visibility from the car wash by installing a 6 foot high wrought
iron fence 10 feet inside the car wash property line. fore, people could
not walk right up to the wall adjacent to the residences. He proposed a row
of trees between the wrought iron fending and the block well of the residences
to provide the visual screening. He said he was still meeting with the
residents to determine what trees would be most suitable and he preferred to
have approval at a City staff level .- He proposed that hours of operation be
limited to 6 OD a.m. to 11. D p.m. for the car gash and regular business 'hours
for the rest' of the center. He proposed turning off the lights except for one
bay and; security lighting at 1400 p.m. He stated the police department had
indicated they did not want a solid row of trees along Lemon Avenue to ''block
the view, but preferred to have the trees clustered. He said the fire
department had indicated they did not want any access restricted. He stated
the auto plaza had two' other tenants.
Commissioner erick asked the hours ofoperation of the other tenants. He
asked if the other tenants would be policing the car wash.
r. Greubel stated the other tenants included a pizza parlor and a video store
wfiich would be open various hours.
Fred Deaux , 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that three quarters of
the current residents did not five in the area at the time the project vas
first reviewed and therefore had not had an opportunity to object to the car
sh when it was proposed. He asked where the lighting would be placed.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated the detailed lighting plan was not
included as part of this process.
Chairman McNiel stated the bays would be lit and there would be accent
lighting on the buildings and parking lot lighting.
Mr* Deaux stated the lighting should not flood, into surrounding homes. He
felt b.gD a.m. to 11: 4 p.m. would not be appropriate hours , and they should
be changed to 7:00 or 8:00 a.m for opening and 10 DD p.m. for closing. He
wanted to see the hours tied to the Conditional Use Permit in order to give
the City leverage. He also wanted a timed shut-off switch so that there would
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be no chance of someone using the car wash after hours. He felt a car wash
was better suited for a heavy industrial area.
Chairman McNiel stated that in the past people wanted to get rid of service
stations and now people complain because there are not enough service stations
in town'. He felt it was important to serve the needs of residents.
Mr'. beaux Mated that without proper policing trash ' would wend up in
surrounding yards'.
Steve Donley„ Donley-Bennett Architects, project architect, stated that the
design as presented contained many 'changes as the result of neighborhood
stings and Design Review. H stated the; polite department did not want the
entire front of the property to be hedged., but proposed groupings of trees
with hedges between to allow the police to see into the property. He said
they upgraded the landscaping from 4" box trees to 48" box trees and they
were continuing to work with the homeowners and City staff to determine ghat
plants to use. He s tai d the lighting would be mostly surface mounted on the
buildings and directed down to avoid shining into neighboring yards. He said
there would be an automatic shut off at the end of the d ,y and them would be
anon-site manager during the shank of the 'day.
Chairman McNiel stated that at Design Review there had been a suggestion to
change the roof from; a single level , but he preferred' two-tiers over the
proposed throe tiers.
Mr. Donley agreed to change to two tiers from the proposed three tiers.
Gene Ullrich , 10410 Lemon Avenue, stated he had moved into his house directly
across the street from the project in May 1987 and on June b a 'letter went out
to notice a neighborhood meeting. As he never received the letter, he
presumed it was forwarded to the former owner. He stated his house was not on
the list for the 'formal hearing. He stated Mr. Greubel had been cooperative
with the people living to the west. As he was afraid customers would play
loud radios , he asked that the hours of operation be limited to 7:00 a.m. to
10:00 p.m. He stated Mr. Dreubel had worked with his wife regarding the
color, and that they would prefer the blue color.
Ms . Meier stated that Phase was currently painted green. She stated the
applicant had indicated t if the Planning Commission chose the ` light blue
color, he would repaint Phase I so the entire center would be the same.
Alicia Niemirow, 6341 Revere, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she was still concerned
about privacy and felt that people might be able to look into her house from
the car wesh site. She wanted trees planted to provide total privacy, and
suggested cypress' would be a good choice 'so long as they were planted close
together and neatly maintained.
Chairman McNiel felt other landscaping should be considered.
Ms Niemirow stated the hours of operation should be more restricted and
should not be open after 1004 p.m.
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Mr. Creubel stated he had met with Ms . Niemirow and understood her concerns.'
He stated he had originally wanted a 24 hour operation and was now proposing a
compromise of leaving only one 'bay open from 10.0 to '11:30 p.m. and
shutting off all the equipment at 11; D p.m. He felt that by cutting down to
only one bay at 10: C p.m., most of the noise would be eliminated, He
suggested the parking lot lighting be directed from west to east.
Mr. Coleman stated the Planning Commission could recommend that a formal
agreement, including these conditions of operation, be forwarded to City
Council for approval , ;or the Commission could decide that the changes to the
site plan were significant enough to require a modification to the Conditional
Use Permit, which would mean the applicant would have to process through the
Conditional Use Permit;public hearing process again.
Greg Bennett, Donley-Bennett Architects stated the whole focus of the meeting
was to seek approval of the design. He said they had already gone through
public scrutiny and concession after concession He said the surrounding
homeowners now supported the project with the concessions. He said the only
modifications to the site plan were to satisfy the concerns of residents,:
Chairman McNiel Mated the site plan had been changed and the Commission
needed to decide if the changes were significant enough to warrant a'
modification.
r. Bennett asked that the Planning Commission approve the design; and allow
the City attorney to review` the agreement. He stated the changes were merely`
an evolution of the original project with everyone working together.
Chairman McNiel agreed that the project had been scrutinized very closely.
Mrs Deaux stated that the option to reopen the Conditional Use Permit had not
been presented to the residents before this meeting. He felt Mr. ga na had
been led to believe the Conditional Use Permit could not be reopened,
s. Niemirow stated she did not feel comfortable with the car wash and had
opposed; it since it was originally proposed. She preferred to see a real
estate office.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Emerick liked the idea of the wrought iron fencing to keep people
away from the hack yards of the adjacent homes. He felt landscaping could
address the view and privacy problem, He preferred that the hours of
operation be limited o :00 a.m. to 10:0 p.m. during the vRek, with perhaps
an extension to 11:0 p.m. on 'Fridays and Saturdays. He thought the blue
color would be a better choice and preferred two tiers for the roof line. He
felt everything else seemed to be a compromise between the residents and the
developer He felt it would be sufficient to have staff review the lighting,
but preferred to have the landscaping returned to the Design Review Committee
and stated the specimens should be large.
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Commissioner Blakesley felt the blue color was acceptable and liked two itiers
on the roof. He preferred 7.00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. for the hours of
operation. He felt quite a bit had been done on buffering the car wash from
the residences with the use of landscaping and the wrought iron fencing, but
he was not entirely satisfied that it would be successful in insulating the°
use from the adjacent neighbors.
Commissioner Emerick felt the changes were net a substantial deviation from
the original plan presented and he did not feel it warranted a modification to
the Conditional Use permit.
Commissioner Blakdsley concurred.
Chairman McNiel concurred. He stated the use was permitted and them had been
a 'lot of community involvement. He was not sure that sound mitigations for
the western edge would be satisfactory.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the hews were not on a lower grade.
Chairman hlcNiel stated the houses were approximately five feet lower.
r Coleman stated that the acoustical study showed that the operation of the
car wash, vacuum, etc . would comply with City maximum allowable noise
standards. However, he said there was no ;way to address blaring radios in an
acoustical study , and that would become a management function of the
facility. He stated the applicant 's intent in plotting a lube facility on the
north end of the building and the detail shop on the south side was to provide
some supervision.`
Chairman McNiel agreed that the hours should be 7.00 a.m. to 10:0 ; p.m. with
no exception for later hours on weekends. He felt the landscaping should
return to the Design 'Review Committee for approval , He liked the two-tier
roof as opposed to a three-tier. He 'preferred ;the green color, but stated he
was amenable the blue. He stated that the lighting should be sensitive to
the neighborhood. suggested dropping the lights down below the normal 1
feet.
Brad Buller, City Planner, summarized that; he heard the color 'should be blue,';
there should be two tiers in the car wash roof, the hours should be limited to
7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., the lighting should be sensitive to the neighborhood
and approved by the City Planner, landscaping should be resolved between the
neighbors and the applicant and returned to Design Review for approval . He
suggested adding a standard clause to the agreement regarding graffiti
removal , maintenance, ,and trash and debris . He asked if the Commission wanted
to include a clause that there should be an on-site manager during all 'hours
the business was in operation. He stated the Commission could direct staff to
return with a Resolution , or they could decide that minute action would be
sufficient to provide for preparation of the agreement.
Chairman McNiel stated that minute action would be sufficient, but he
iterated his concern about the sound on the vest wall .
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Mr. Buller suggested that if the Commission was concerned with loud;, blasting;
radios, they could draft in language of the agreement that one of the
responsibilities of the on-site manager would be to monitor excessive noise
levels from patrons.
Commissioner Emeick asked if the conditions would be attached to the
Conditional use Permit.
r Buller stated it would be a separate agreement which would have to be
approved by City Council . He stated that unless the buildings were
substantially under construction prior to expiration of the Conditional Use
Permit, the applicant would have to apply for an extension.
Chairman Mc Niel asked what leverage' the City would have with respect to
enforcing the agreement.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that it would be an agreement
between the City' and the property owners, approved by City Council , and
recorded against the property. He said it could provide for injunctive powers
for the courts to enforce it.
Chairman McNiel allowed public comment.
Mr aux asked if minute action would leave room for; appeal to the City
Council . He felt the homeowners may want to appeal to the Council to have the
Conditional Use Permit reopened based upon the changes. He asked if a'
Resolution would be necessary in order to allow appeal .
Chairman McNiel stated that all actions can be appealed to the ;Council .
Hanson stated that the agreement could be prepared without a Resolution
but he recommended a Resolution be prepared.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to direct staff to prepare a
Resolution of adoption based on ghat had been discussed.
Coleman asked Mr* Greubel for a copy of the agreement he had signed with
the homeowners.
r reobel provided the agreement.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no additional commission business at this
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blake ley, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
10:5P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to a March 30, 1989, workshop at
Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center at 4:00 p.m. for continued reviews and
discussion regarding the Etiwanda North area and an initial full Jury
presentation for the Awards of Design Excellence- program.
Respectfully submitted,
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
March 16, 1989'
Terra Vista Town Center Workshop ervyn's
Chairman Larry McNiel called the special workshop; eting to order at 9:5
p.m. at the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho
Cucamonga, California 91730.
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ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT; David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Peter Tolstoy, Larry McNiel
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, pan Coleman, Senior Planner,
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner; Debra Meier, Associate
Planner; gill Silva, Deputy City Engineer
Robert Bernstein, of Houston Bernstein Architects, gave a preview of the
rvyn 's footprint, building function and architecture. Representatives from
r yn's included Greg Gillis , Project Manager, and Card Wessenberg, Head of
Construction. A discussion followed with the Commission having the following
comments:
1. The elimination of Shop Buildings C and D has taken away
much of the character of this portion of the center. The
deletion of those shops has resulted in a very box-like
form and very linear roof-line. The Commission agreed, '
in concept, to the deletion of Shops C and D, if the
design of the rvyn 's stagy front can create a similar
sense of design articulation.
. The deletion of the tower element and small storefronts
on the west elevation hurts the overall design of the
courtyard.
3. The main tower feature is generally acceptable. However,
the sidelights within this tower should be eliminated.
Natural light should be provided' in a different way.
4. All elevations need additional architectural appeal . The;
Commissioners felt that the renderings presented to them'
did not reflect the overall character of the original
approval .
After the discussion; of the items above with the architect and rvyn'
representatives, the Commission grade the following suggestions to improve the
elevations presented.
1. The storefront elevations must be designed to create a
similar character as was C a d by using the small
perimeter retail shops;. This includes undulation of the
building face, or using other architectural elements.
The Commission suggested using window displays of
merchandise to add appeal to front elevations. rvyn 's
representatives noted that idea` was not something they
usually lie to do for maintenance reasons.
. The building footprint should be shifted approximately 10
feet to the west' and 'north. This would ' allow greater
area along the storefront elevations.
. Signage shown should Conform to the approved Uniform Sign
Program, which would allow one sign per building face
with public entry for the major tenants.
The Commission concluded by indicating that the rvyn's representatives and
their architect should work with staff and the Design Review Committee prior
to coning before ' the full Commission for the final approval .
Respectfully submitted,
*BradeBuKler�
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
March 8, 1989
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the 'City of Rancho Cucamonga
P1`anning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park:
Community Center, 9161 Ease' Line' Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
Niel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS-. PRESENT: David Rlakesley, Suzanne 'Chitea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Tom O ahn, Assistant iPlanner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy l City;
Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner; ;Olen Jones, RDA
Analyst* Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Cindy Norris,
Assistant Planner; it Sanchez,, Secretary; Joe Stofa,,
Associate Civil Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced the City had received a request from the
project architect continue Item E, Modification -to the Virginia Dare
Parking Study, for two weeks.
. Duller announced that two Commissioners had advised that they would not be
available for the March 22, 1989 meeting.
Buller announced that on March 17, 1989, there would be a farewell
luncheon for two members of the planning staff, Scott Murphy and Chris
Westman.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of January 23, 1989, as amended.
Lion: Moved by Chtiea seconded by Biakesley, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of February 2, 1989, as amended.
Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of February 3, 1989, as amended.
Motion:e ed by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of February 8, 1989, as amended.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-2£ - SMITH - The
addition of seven i5iFfiii5t un an e s 5g apar nt complex
consisting of 63 units; on 5.33 acres of land in the Medium Residential
District' (8-14 dwelling units per acre), located on the east side of
Archibald Avenue, south of Church Street. - APN: 103 - 5. (Continued`
from January 25, 1989.) e
Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Co issioner' Chitiea asked to see renderings of the changes to the garage
units.
Mr Grahn stated the Design Review Co ittee' direction had been to design
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the carports to be consistent with the garages,, with the same roof design and
roofing material . He shoved the changes the developer was proposing to Make'
to the existing garages, including removal of existing light fixtures, three-
foot wall , and stucco elements, and addition of patios and window trim.
Commissioner Blakesley stated the Design Review Committee had originally
discussed the removal of the wings on the end if they were not structural
elements.
r. Grahn stated the last 'Design Review Committee approved increasing the
width of the end wall elements to be consistent with the proposed
architecture.
Commissioner Blakesley asked if the patio walls were to be stucco or wrought
iron.
Mr. Grahn stated the developer proposed four-foot stucco walls with rock'
pilasters.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Alen Smith, stated he was representing owner Louis Flinkman. He said they had
worked closely with Design Review and he would be happy to answer any
questions.
Commissioner Chitiea asked to see renderings and a materials board for
Archibald. She asked ghat trim would be used around the windows.
Mr, Smith stated the trim would be " x b" wood painted brown.
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Commissioner Blakesley asked if the proposed roof material would be on the
addition only.
Mr. Crahn stated it would be used on the new units and those on Archibald'
Avenue.
Commissioner Chit'iea asked about the decorative light fixtures to be added on
the existing building.
Mr. Smith stated they intended to remove the round globes and would be happy
to have the design of the new lights approved by the City.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested returning the light fixtures to the Design
Review !Committee ;for approval .
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was glad to have an opportunity to upgrade the
site. He felt the front landscaping would improve the streetscape.
Commissioner 81aesley agreed it was nice to have an opportunity for
improvement.
Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded; by Blakesley, to adopt; the 'Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 8 - fa with
AWOL modification to have light fixture design approved by Design Review
Committee. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: 8L ` ESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NC -carried
S. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 0 - WORD OF LIFE
The i regdes es a urc n a ease space of 3,060 square eet
within an existingmulti-tenant industrial park on 8. 2 acres of land in
the General Industrial District (Subarea ) of the Industrial Specific
Plan, located at 9047 Arrow Route - APN: 09-012-19.
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He also provided
a Plan' Check Report from the Foothill Fire Protection District, which
recommended denial of the Conditional Use Permit pending a complete fire and
life safety; plan review. He stated that Condition 3 of the Resolution
required submission of the plans prior to occupancy.
Chairman McNiel questioned why the Fire District was requesting such a
requirement prior to approval of the Conditional Use Permit, rather than prior
to occupancy.
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Mr. Hayes responded that the Fire District indicated they have had problems in.
the past with similar users.
Chairman McNiel .asked if the problem was occurring because people were moving
in prior to issuance of occupancy permits.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that the Fire District had not given any
specific examples ofwhen that has occurred, but they indicated they have had
a problem.
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Commissioner Tolstoy asked if that was not simply a matterof code
enforcement.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that both the Fire District and the City
could take action for non-compliance if they should occupy the facility prior
to issuance of the occupancy permit. He indicated in the past the Fire
District has accepted the condition placed in the Re lotion tying the
occupancy permit to the submission of the plan.
Chairman McNiel opened the ,public hearing.
Randy Alward, 7398 Beryl Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they would not
occupy the building until permits were issued.
Chairman McNiel asked where they were currently meeting.
r. Alward responded they were eying in` the Cucamonga Junior High School on
month-to-month contract.
Chairman McNiel asked the size of the congregation.
Mr. Alward stated they had :forty members.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if they were aware of all the requirements
generally made by the Foothill Fire District for public assembly.
Alward stated he had talked with the pastor of Cucamonga Christian
Fellowship regarding the process. He said he had also submitted building'
plans and their proposed usage to the Fire Department and was waiting to hear
at they would need to be in compliance.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested the Commission might wish to, ask Robert
Corcoran, Operations Division Chief of the Foothill Fire` Protection District,
who was in the audience regarding another item, if he was aware of any
violations occurring regarding ,occupancy prior# to permits on Conditional Use
Permits.
Mr. Corcoran stated he was aware that there had been problems with tenants
king occupancy prior to issuance of the permits, but that was not his
department. He said he would be happy to request the Fire Marshall compile a
list and address the Commission regarding the problem.
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Chair Niel sty d he recalle, having a problem with one church in the
past, but he felt it was unfair to pull the rug out from under a struggling
church. He understood` the reason for requiring compliance, but felt it could'
be handled by Ming the requirement to occupancy permits.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Mr. Buller stated it would be helpful to have a listing of specific examples
of violations so that the Commission could better judge future Conditional Use
Permit applications.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that if the Fire District came up'! with specific
problems, the planning Commission should discuss the situation and perhaps
change the method of processing applications.
Lion- Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt ; the Resolution`
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 89-02. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Commissioner Chitea stated she supported the Conditional Use Permit with the
applicant's assurance they would comply with Fire District requirements.
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 87-1
REEK;BURGUNDY que amend Vii 'FeV065iiifit OMFiRp'
roe o Control C) to Medium DensityResidential M (8-14 dwelling
units per acre) , which encompasses 1.61 acres of land located on the west
side of Carnelian` Avenue, approximately 1 ,000 feet south of Calle del
Pra o - APN: -0 2-64.
Cindy Morris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel asked if the proposed site plan wes in process.
Ms., Norris confirmed that the site plan was being processed.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the site plan vas being processed separately
and would not be considered this evening* Only the zone change was to be
considered at this time.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing,
Stan Scates, Burgundy Creek, Ltd., stated they purchased the property from the
Cucamonga County Water District and hoped to have this property zoned the same
as the parcel to the north which they owned and which was already zoned
Medium. He stated he was available to answer questions.
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Chairman McNiel stated that historically the City had approved projects at a
rate of 10.62 in areas designated 8-1 units per acre and that the proposed'
site plan was projected at 12 units per acre.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if only one drive was being proposed' for
ingress/egress along Carnelian.
Mr. Scates. responded yes, along with an emergency access to the north.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated that the only item being considered was the land use
designation and that the site plan would be considered during the design
review ;process. He said the design review process would definitely have to
address the problem of ingress/egress along Carnelian. He stated the
Commission had to decide if the land' use designation was consistent with the
surrounding area and was it reasonable.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if any plans had been proposed for ingress/egress
for the parcel of land with the water tank
s. Norris stated that parcel had an existing access, which would continue to
be used.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that in changing from Flood Control to any other
designation it would be necessary to consider the vacant parcel, with the water
tank. He felt any design of this property would have to address
ingress/egress for the water tank parcel .
Commissioner Chitiea agreed that that should` be a major concern for an,
density being proposed. She felt it would not be appropriate have any
access directly onto Carnelian.' She felt traffic should be routed to the
north and was afraid that with separate ownership and no master planning the
traffic would exit onto Carnelian. She felt the density proposed was not
appropriate for the location, particularly with the curve on Carnelian.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed the density was too high for the property, but did
not want to see single family residences either because that could mean many
different exits. He felt a lower density project should be considered.
Commissioner hiiea asked if a designation other than Flood Control was truly
appropriate.
Chairman McNiel stated that all the land ; to the north, including the single
family residences, was zoned 8-14.
Commissioner Tolstoy Felt that circumstances change as the parcels go south
because of the configuration of the street and the irregular dimensions of the
property.
Mr. Buller asked Ms. Norris if there had been any discussions with the Water
District to see if they would be willing to share or abandon their Carnelian
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access point for purposes of master planning the area. He stated future
development of the parcel south of the Water District property might hinge on
cooperation with the Water District.
Ms. Norris indicated no.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the Water District owned the entire parcel .
Mr. Buller stated that there were four lots independently owned which had
potential to be developed. He thought master planning might be used to
address the potential impacts of development of those parcels. He asked if it
was known if the alleyway to the north was public or private.
Ms'. Norris did not know who owned the alleyway.
Commissioner Blakesley felt that even at the lower end of the 8-14 density
range too much traffic would be generated for the area.
Chairman McNiel felt the area should be studied further and master r planned
with the parcels to the north.
Commissioner Chit ea stated she could not support the project as proposed.
. Buller stated that the action before the Commission wes whether the excess'
Flood Control land should be developed, and if so, at what density range.
Commissioner Emerick asked if a General plan Amendment was required.
Mr. Buller stated that the General plan is not lot specific, and staff made an
interpretation that the Medium density designation which is immediately to the
north would be the most logical extension for the land being declared excess
Flood Control . He stated that the Commission could disagree with the
assumption and then determine that a General Plan Amendment was needed.
Commissioner Emerick asked to look at the General Plan map.
The Commissioners viewed the General Plan map.
Commissioner Chitiea disagreed with the Medium density assumption.
Commissioner Tolstoy also disagreed.
rBuller, stated that when the General Plan map was drawn, land which was
not buildable for flood reasons was designated as Flood Control . Since the
channel was built, the Water District had now determined that the land is not
subject to flooding.
Commissioner Emerick felt the land was still Flood Control'.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that originally the property was a part of the
wash, and during the original General Plan discussions it was not foreseen
that the property would ever be developable.
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Commissioner Emerick stated that he felt the property was still designated
Flood Control and the Commission should now determine what would be an
appropriate designation for more intense use, rather than merely having the
land take on the designation of surrounding parcels He felt 8-14 was too
dense and the area should be studied further.
Commissioner Tol toy stated that just because the adjacent land to the north
is designated 8 14 he did not feel that this property should automatically be
the same designation.
Chairman McNiel felt the 8-14 density to the north was more applicable to the
parcel than the single family designation across the street, but stated he was
aware of the safety hazard of exiting onto Carnelian. He felt access to the
property should be something other than Carnelian and the area should be
master planned.
r$ Buller stated the Commission had two options. (1) take action, or )
continue the request and ask that a General plan Amendment be processed
concurrently. He asked that if the Commission decided on continuance that
they provide direction as to what land use they would like considered.
Commissioner Emerick felt designations of -4 and 4-8 should be considered.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if it would be proper for the 'Commission to direct
staff to master Plan the area.
r. Buller stated that if the applicant withdrew his application and the City
s going to initiate the General Plan Amendment, City staff could initiate a
master plan for the area, but would request direction ` from the Commission
regarding other Work Program items.
Chairman McNiel felt it would not be a high priority project.
Commissioner lakesleyr felt the planning Commission could not determine that
8 14 wes a proper; designation.
Chairman McNiels d the land was designated Flood Control on the General
Flan, and since it had now been determined that the land was buildable it
could come out of the Flood Control designation'. Therefore, when an applicant
made a proposal , the Planning Commission must determine the ';proper density.
He felt the surrounding area needed to be master planned.
Commissioner Emerick felt the land was still designated Flood Control and the
Planning Commission would be willing to look at changing the designation to a
designation lower than 814 with an overall master plan and a General Plan
Amendment.
Commissioner Blakesley stated that the existing parcel to the north could be
developed in the 8 14, range with access off Carnelian which would not align
with Vivero, thereby creating a gorse` traffic hazard.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated that because only a seller lot would be built at
that density the number of vehicles exiting onto Carnelian would be
decreased. She was opposed to the current proposal, particularly since they
could not take access to the north.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to ask if the applicant wished to
continue the item or if he wished to have the Commission take action to deny
the proJec t
Mr. Scates, stated they had conducted lengthy discussions with the Cucamonga
County Water District and they indicated the water tangy was a major water
tank. He did not Feel CCWD would abandon: the tank. He felt that the access
problem had been alleviated following discussions with the Engineering
Department with 'a new street alignment all the way to Base line and an
deceleration lane going south, He stated that the problems the Commission was
considering had been worked out with Engineering and the alignment with Vivero
would take care of the problem.
Chairman McNiel asked if traffic would be able to exit the project and go
north on Carnelian.
Mr, Scates stated plans called for traffic to be able to turn left on
Carnelian toward Base =Line.
Joe Stofa, Associate Civil ;Engineer, stated that the best possible alignment
would be line up with Vivero, assuming they couldn 't exit to the north
through the alleyway* He felt the Commissioners' concerns were valid.
Commissioner Emerick stated that one of the biggest effects of density is on
traffic.. He felt that without a traffic study of the area, the Commission
could not make a valid judgment.
Chairman McNiel suggested they combine the land use designation with the
applicant's land plan. He felt that if the land plan could determine that it
de sense that the 8-14 designation could work, then the Commission could
consider the designation, He felt that with the information currently before
the Commission, the designation did not make sense because the traffic`
situation on Carnelian appeared too' a n 'n . He asked if Mr. Scates
wished to have the Commission act on the current proposal or continue the item
to allow a review of the surrounding property and possible lower designation.
. Scates asked if that meant the Commission wanted him to process the
Development District Amendment and the development at the same time.
Duller stated that if the Commission did not accept s f 's interpretation
of the General Plan, then a General Plan Amendment would be needed concurrent
with the Development District Amendment. He stated the Commission could act
on the project before then only f de rmi d that the rope designation is
consistent with the General Plan. He stated the applicant was 'almost ready to
bring the project design sign Review,
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Emerick stated his interpretation was that the land still had the
Flood Control designation under the General Plan.
Commissioners Tolstoy and Chitiea also disagreed with staffs interpretation.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the appropriate course of 'action would be to
conduct a study to determine the appropriate zoning ;and return with a General
Plan Amendment to change the zoning from Flood Control .
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, to direct staff to' prepare a
Resolution of denial without prejudice for Environmental Assessment and
Development District Amendment -1 , stating' the proposed 'zoning was not
consistent with the General Plan. "lotion carried by the following vote.-
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: N -carried
0. VARIANCE 89-0 - Nu WEST - A request to allow three wall sighs to
exceid Vii maxi m e g t limit of twenty i feet within an existingi
commercial center, located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard
and Hellman Avenue - APN: 208-261-25 and 26.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hewing.
Scott Langford, Holt & Langford Signage, stated he was available to answer
questions.
Chairman McNiel asked if the tenants had been selected.
rMurphy stated Farr Stationers and House of Fabrics were confirmed, while
the third major was still in negotiations.'
Chairman McNiel asked if the maximum size for letters would apply to a capital
letter or lower case letter when both upper and lower cases letters used
toge ther.
Murphy stated that the signs would be presented at the next Design Review
Committee Meeting and the question this ,evening was the height of the sign
from the grade, not the height of the letters.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the grading caused a considerable difference from
Foothill to the floor level of the signs. He said that even ''though he would
o ' inally not approve anything; higher than 20 feet, he would support the
variance because of the design of the buildings, the distance from the street,
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and the grading change. He felt that as building designs progress through
Design Review, it was important to ascertain where the signs would be placed
and to point out the Sign Ordinance to developers.
Commissioner Emerick agreed with supporting the variance.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred with supporting the variance, based upon the
differential betueen the Foothill Boulevard level and the project site. She
expressed concern about the height of the letters.
Commissioner Blakesley concurred with supporting the variance.
Chairman McMiel stated Nu West had worked with the City and experienced unique
conditions with the low lever of the project site. He supported the
variance. He agreed that signs should be reviewed conceptually ring Design
Review of the buildings.
Motion* Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Variance B9-C i i h
pp g � ton carried the following vote:
_
AYES: C ISSICN S: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NOME -carried
MEW BUSINESS
E. MODIFICATION TO THE VIRGINIA DARE PARKING STUDY - A review of
modi"fications to the, shared piFR15g 5rrcep nd- _proJected' parking demand
for the Virginia Bare Center.
Chairman McNiel stated that, a request had been received to continue the item
and he suggested that the item be continued until April 1 , to allow the full
Commission to review the item. He invited the applicant's comment.
Larry Wolff, project architect, stated that would be acceptable.
Thereno further public comments.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to continue Modification to
the Virginia Dare Parking Study to April 12, 1989Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS-. BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: N -carried
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8: 0 P.M. - Planning Co mission Recessed
D:SS P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
Fa MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 89-07 - A. W. DAVIES A request to add 710
squa eet offici space to an existing bui ing and warehouse totaling
4,560 square feet on __.82 acres of land in the General Industrial District
(Subarea 3) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located on the southeast
corner of 9th Street and Helms Avenue - APN: 9-031-53 and 54.
(Continued from Februarys g, 989.)'
Chairman McNiel stated there was a request to postpone the item until March
22, but he would prefer that the item be continued until April 12, 1989.
Brad Seller, City Planner, suggested that because, the applicant was not
present to voice any concern about the additional delay; it might be best to
continue the item until March 22 1989. At that time if the Commissioners did
not feel comfortable with the project, they could continue the item until
April 12, 1989, to allow the full Commission to review.
Lion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Minor
Development Review 89-07 to March 22, 1989. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS, BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK,, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
H. REVIEW OF CONCEPTS FOR FIRE STATIONS NUMBERS 4 AND 5 (Oral Report)
Olen Jones, RDA Analyst, thanked the Planning Commission for allowing the
presentation and stated the purpose was to acquaint the Planning Commission
with the project and the constraints and to ask for informal direction on how
to proceed. He gave a brief history of the project. He stated that in April
197 the Foothill Fire Prevention District and the City approved a master plan
which outlined the need for three additional fire stations, a maintenance'
faci 1 i and a training facility. Because of budget constraints the master`
plan had been broken into two phases and the first phase included construction
of Fire Stations 4 and S and acquisition; of all three sites. He said the
second phase, which was scheduled to begin in 1990 g1, would include
construction of the final fire station and the training and maintenance
facilities. He stated Wolff, Lang, Christopher had been selected as project
architect and a design committee had been formed composed of Foothill' Fire
District personnel , RDA personnel , Deputy City Planner Otto Kroutil , and
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Deputy City Engineer Bill Silva. He stated three potential sites have been;
identified, with two already approved for ;acquisition - Fire i at the
southwest corner of Jersey and Milliken and Fire Station S at the northeast'
corner of Banyan Street and Deer Creek Channel . He stated the third i
would be basically east of the existing Fire Station on Base Line near
Rochester.
Chairman McNiel invited public co ent.
Larry Wolff, program architect, presented study models, a copy of the
architectural program, and proposed preliminary site plans, He stated major
site planning considerations included windy locations, response times, traffic
within the immediate vicinity, and on-site traffic circulation to allow the
engines to turn around on the property for refueling and 'cleaning. He stated
Fire Station S would be a two-bay, double-deep; station in a residential area
and Fire Station 4 would be a four-bay, double-deep station, with the
District's maintenance operations and a training facility. added during the
second phase of the program indicated the training facility would include
a classroom and a' training tower and that it might become regional training
facility for other municipalities in the area. He stated it would be
important to segregate visitor/public parking and maintenance facility'
operations to preclude any disruption of emergency traffic. 'Because the
access on Milliken Avenue is restricted, access must be taken off Jersey and
driveway locations would somewhat dictate placement of the buildings in a
group. He indicated they were considering the addition of either art or a
water element in the courtyard area between the three buildings. He stated
one of the major criteria for building orientation on both sites was to orient
the overhead door's 90 degrees from the prevailing Santa Ana winds, They' felt
the project had the ability to establish development standards for other
facilities in the area. He questioned if the fire stations should look the'
same and be; constructed of similar materials so that people could easily
cognize the facility as a fire station. He stated they had not selected
building materials, but they envisioned tan or light buff concrete block
masonry with light green metal roofs. He asked for the' Co mission 's input on
design concepts.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked about placement of Fire Station b and asked if it
would include the northeast area of the City and the North Etivanda area.
Robert Corcoran, Operations Division Chief of Foothill Fire Protection
District, stated they felt dire Station b would provide adequate coverage for
that a a.
Chairman McNiel stated that in dealing with public agencies the City has
maintained high standards in the area of materials and architectural design,;
He felt it was important ke the surrounding areas into account and to use
the best quality materials. He asked how tall the training tower would be.
r Wolff stated it would be four stories high and they planned to locate it
in the center of the site.
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Commissioner Tolstoy was concerned that the training tower should not be in
such public view, as it might impact traffic in the area when fire training
exercises were being conducted.
. Wolff stated that Milliken rapidly slopes downward in the area to go under';
the rai 1 reed bridge. He felt the embankment would partially block out the
view. He said the tower was placed where it made the most sense considering
both aesthetic and safety factors.
Mr. Corcoran stated that the training, tower would be stainless steel lined and
would be fired by propane gas, which is much cleaner burning and does not
cause the dense black smoke.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred with Chairman McNiel regarding materials and
design. She felt that the improvements made to Station 2, which picked up
elements from the neighborhood well done. She felt that type of approach
in a residential ' area would be appropriate. She felt high-tech industrial
design elements could be considered in an industrial area, but would be
inappropriate in a residential neighborhood.
Commissioner Blakesley' stated he did not want contemporary architecture, but
would prefer something re traditional and he also liked Station 2.
Chairman McNiel felt it was not necessary to have the two stations be
similar. He felt it was more desirable to interweave with the surrounding
community.
Mr. Wolff stated that metal roofing was very expensive and he questioned why
the Commissioners' objected to it.
Chairman McNiel stated that several commercial centers had been built with
metal roofing, and the consensus of the Commission was that it was not
aesthetically pleasing.
Mgr. Wolff asked about using concrete blocks with variety of textures and
enhancements.
Chairman McNiel stated some kind of treatment would
u1d be necessary and a sol
id
wall of concrete blocks would not be desirable.
r. Wolff stated he would like to workshop the item.
Chairman McNiel agreed that workshops would be a good idea, because the Fire
Stations were important to the community. .'`
Commissioner Chitiea reiterated the materials should be location specific.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the item had been brought before the
Commission this evening to allow' early input,
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G. UPDATE 4N CITY COUNCIL GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP
Brad Buller, City Planner, gave 'a brief overview of the City Council Workshop
on the Carlsbad Growth Management Plan and the programs that the City of
Rancho Cucamonga has in place.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she would like to see a lowering of density ranges
to establish a range lower than "less than 2."
Commissioner Tolstoy stated there were three -valid arguments for requiring
larger parcels: earthquake area, fire hazard, and grading.
Commissioner Chitiea wanted to have a classification for the lower density, so
that it did not seem arbitrary; from the 'Planning Commission point of view.
She felt that would help the growth management plan and would allow the City
to approach the matter more systematically and consistently.
Commissioner Tolstoy thought a Hillside Grading Ordinance should be
established.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the City should not accept will serve letters from
Cucamonga County Water District because ' current residents have complained
about lack of water pressure.
Mr'. Buller stated that CCWp sets the standards for ghat is necessary and that
under state lain it was their responsibility to meet at least the state-
mandated minimum. He stated the City,' Fire District, and.. the CCWD are
currently discussing the problem.
Chairman McNiel stated that it was suggested at the Workshop that the City
Council should establish necessary levels of service regarding r quality
and the amount of water pressure and impose those standards on CCWD.
Commissioner Emerick did not feel that the will of the City could be imposed
on an autonomous district.
Chairman McNiel suggested requiring new development go ahead and stub out
to the street where the sewer system vas not already in the area. Then when
the area was retrofitted for sewers, the stub outs would be in place and it
would be easy to provide hook ups.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the Ctiwanda North area was requiring 'a lot
of staff time and he felt the results of the workshop would also be taking a
lot of staff time.
Chairman McNiel stated that he had asked the City Council to funnel any
requests for Planning Staff time through the Planning Commission for their
input to talk about work program .
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
Brad Buller discussed dates for the ANards of Design Excellence program.
Thursday March 30 was agreed to for initial full jury presentation, with final '
jury review to be made on April 20, and the awards presentation on May B,
1989.
PUBLIC COWENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Talstey, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried to
adjourn.
C. C P.M. - Planning Commission adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
'ABrad Bu ler
Sec ry
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
March 3, 1989
North Etiwranda Plan Workshop
Chairman M Niel called the adjourned March 3, lg g meeting of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at approximately 430 p.m. at
the Neighborhood Center located at 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. The
purpose of the meeting was to further discuss the content of the Etiwvanda
North Specific Plan.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blake ley, Suzanne Chi iea, Bruce
Emerick Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
STAFF PRESENT; Brad Buller City Planner; Otto Kroutil , deputy City
Planner; Larry Henderson, Senior Planner; Dan Coleman,
Senior Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Mii
Bratt, Associate Planner; Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner;
Jeff Gravel , Assistant Planner; Bill Silva, 'Deputy City
Engineer; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Betty
Miller, Assistant` Civil Engineer'
Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, began by giving a quick overviews of the
status of the review of the Etiwanda North Specific Plan.
Joe Di Iorio, President of Caryn Company, distributed architectural guidelines,
which he requested the Planning Co fission review. He stated there were seven
different architectural styles indicated in the guidelines with their specific
details.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, expressed concern regarding the minimum size of
the d ' 11f = vats. He said that these newly distributed guidelines should
fleet unit sizes, upward in size, to reflect actual expected snit size a
discussed during' the previous workshop.
r. Di Iorio indicated this issue was not addressed in the architectural
guidelines.
Chairman McNiel objected to the introduction of the text. The first
paragraph, last sentence, referenced hardships to the developer in terms o
design and materials. Chairman McNiel stated that like all other' residential
projects processed through the City, the City's top priority is an attractive
product and that means requiring quality design and materials.
Jess Harris, Land/Plan/Design Croup, indicated that the intent of that phrase
was to avoid criteria that would loci in builders and 'require them to
construct custom` homes on a production scale,
Chairman McNiel concluded by saying, that the sentence should be rephrased or
possibly eliminated.
. Coleman stated the design detail matrix section on Vertical vs. Horizontal
was confusing and may be hard to interpret. He suggested a graphic example
could be included with an explanation.
`r. Qi Iorio explained the idea behind vertical vs. horizontal was to set a
percentage of vertical structure or mass vs . horizontal structure.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated that there should be some sensitivity regarding
view and placement of taller units.
Commissioner Chi`tiea expressed concern regarding the chimney details. Some of
the details indicated in the guidelines, refer to the use of wood. She said
wood siding on a chimney would be inappropriate except on a contemporary style
structure.
Chairman McNiel concurred, stating he would not approve of a lot of chimneys
with wood sides. He indicated that there should be some use of double doors
in the front entries.:
`r. Coleman indicated that the architectural elevations showed some double
doors.
Cornissio,ner Emerick = suggested that the fence detail should be included with
the architectural guidelines.
Commissioner Blakesley expressed ; concern regarding fencing and roofing
materials and their durability in heavy winds.
Brad Buller, City planner, indicated that the issue of wind would be analyzed
in the CIR that is being prepared for the specific, plan and that planning for
wind impacts would be very important.
Chairman McNiel cautioned that the drafting of design criteria should not be
o specific that it hampered creativity in the designing of dwelling units.
Commissioner Slakesley felt the roof pitch allotted for the Victorian style
house was too gradual and should be 'increased.
r. Clorio Indicated that most of the general requirements for design have
been taken' directly From the Etiwanda Specific plan„ He also said that this
s reflected in the percentages of side vs. front garages.
r. Coleman asked if detached garages were included in that percentage.
Mr. Cilorio said. no.
Commissioner Blakesley also asked if the percentage included garages with
alley access.
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Mr. DiIorio responded saying that alleys will take away land that will be
dedicated to the parkways and paseos.
Otto Kroutil , [Deputy City Planner, felt better examples of the side vs. front
garages should be presented graphically in the plan with the garages to be de-
emphasized. This should include garage approaches and curb cuts.
Chairman n Niel suggested reducing the height of the courtyard walls to
approximately 4 to B feet instead of the ±6 feet shown on the plan.`
Mr. Harris thought that he could include courtyard wall criteria with the
section on front yard setbacks in the text.
Mr. Coleman suggested that a Monterey style home be used to described
graphically depict the courtyard design concept.
Mr. Barris indicated he felt that a 'curb cut equal to the width of three cars
would enhance the prestige of the neighborhood.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, said that the curb cut width suggested by
Mr. Hargis would only allow more cars to park on the driveway.
r. gi loriu explained that Landmark Land Co. is the financial entity for
oussoulis and Landmark Land may buy the Coussoulis property.
r. Henderson indicated that the City had received a letter from Landmark Land
o.
Miki Bratt, Associate planner, said that the letter indicated some changes in
the conceptual thinking about the use of the land, such as the elimination of
a' trail through the property and the park site around the bog, but expressed
interest in saving the bog. The letter also proposed the development of a
gated community.
Mr. Henderson suggested to Mr. gilorio that he include Landmark Land Co. as
soon as possible in the development of the Etiwanda North Specific 'Plan.
Mr. Diilorio indicated that the biggest change in the plan from the previous
plan was in Section '7, regarding the locations of ;types of architecture. He
said ai builder must now take three styles of architecture and apply them to
one third of the total units in a given neighborhood. He said this would
allow a blending of styles between the different tracts.
. Bratt suggested that because of the wildfires in the open space corridors,
architecture most appropriate retard fire conditions should be considered
in these areas.
Mr. Buller requested clarification from the Commission can the concepts of the
neighborhoods and the architectural styles and mix being proposed. He viewed
the proposal as presented today as very, weals if the intent was to have an
identifiable architectural theme for each neighborhood.
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Chairman n Niel questioned if the architecture for the commercial developments
should be entry style as proposed in the plan, or if it should be consistent As
with the type of architecture in the surrounding area
It was the consensus of the Commission- that commercial development
architecture should blend with the surrounding neighborhood.
Chairman McNiel also suggested that a percentage be placed on the amount of
certain type of 'architecture in each neighborhood to promote definition and
sense of place.
e consensus of the Commissioners was that the percentages should be
increased to provide more neighborhood definition.
The next workshop was planned for March 30, 1989 at'4; a p.m.
The workshop was adjourned at 5 45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
brad Bu ler
Sec re to r
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
I,
February 22, 1989
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Vice-Chairman
Chttiea called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho:
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Vice-Chairman Chitiea then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce`
E `erick
ABSENT. Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy;
STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner; pan Coleman, Senior
Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph
Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant
Planner; Barbara gall , Assistant Civil Engineer; Otto
outil , Deputy City Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate
Planner', Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, '
Secretary; Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, Chris
Westmani, Assistant Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, announced that the City had received a '
letter of withdrawal from the applicant for Item+ E, Time Extension for
Conditional Use Permit 87-04.
A gentleman (name unknown) From the audience asked if an item was 'withdrawn
from the agenda, if the item could be discussed.
Mr. Kroutil stated there was no application before the Commission and it was
up to the Commission.
The gentleman asked if he could address the Commission regarding the matter
and indicated a willingness to wait until reaching Item E in the Agenda.
Vice-Chairman Chitea suggested that he wait until Item E' was reached on the
Agenda.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 1024 - C. R. CARNEY ' - The design review of
u ng a evatTons an a s pan ur previously approved tract
map consisting of 15 single family lots on 7.34 acres of land in the, Very
Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located d at
the southwest corner of Hillside Road and Haven Avenue. APN: 01 4- 1'
to 15.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated she had received a request from staff that Item A
be'removed from the Consent Calendar.
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, suggested that an additional condition be
added to the Resolution to require approval of the Haven Avenue streetscape
design by the Design Review Committee prig to the issuance of building;
permits. He stated the applicant had been advised of the additional
condition.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if the applicant was present.
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, stated the applicant was not at the meeting,
but had 'agreed to the additional condition.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, ; to adopt the Resolution`
approving Design Review for Tract 10246 with modification to requireDesign
Review Committee approval of the 'Haven Avenue streetscape. Motion carried by
the following' vote :
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOO Y -carried
B. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 84- 4 MODIFICATION - SHERIFF &
Fropoi5l for remodelfnq the s re run aca e, manor
6511iding addition, and reconstructing drive approaches for an existing
Neighborhood Commercial ; shopping center on 7.8 acres of land in the
Neighborhood Commercial (NC) District, located at the 'northeast corner of
Carnelian Avenue and Bate Line Road - -APN: ` 0 - 81- 4 thru 2 , 28 thru
, 35 and BE.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea requested that Item B be removed from the Consent
Calendar in order to discuss' the color' scheme.
Bruce Abbott, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Otto kroutil , Deputy City Planner, presented a color sample board and a
photograph of the rendering for the project. He indicated Phase I included '
painting of the Carl 's Jr, in teal green with gray, and concerns had been
raised that perhaps that was not an appropriate color theme for the entire
center. He indicated the Time Extension request was not directly related to
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the color, but as the applicant would have to proceed through Design Review,
this might be a good occasion to go on record regarding the color scheme,'
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated she asked that the 'color scheme addressed this
evening because the Carl 's 'Jr. color appears far more intense than the color
palette suggests. She asked if the applicant was present.
Sally Forster Jones stated she was with MBWJ Properties.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if Ms. Janes would have any objection to working
with the Design Review Committee to modify the colors to a less intense
version".
Ms. Jones stated she had no objection.
r Kroutil indicated the conditions of approval could not be modified for an
extension, but the minutes would reflect the applicant's willingness to work
with Design Review to tone down the color scheme for the center,
Motion Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution;
approving Time Extension for Conditional Use Permit 84-34 Modification.
Lion carried by the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK
ES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLST Y carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 14218 - NORDIC
s en a su vis on an es go review o s ng a family q s on 5.71'
acres of land in the Hillside Residential District, located north of
Inspiration Drive and west of Crestview Place - APN: 200-441-23 to 28.
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report along with a
chronology of Tentative Tract 10210, and a letter from resident Charles
Morgan, opposing the project.
Commissioner Emerick asked if .95 acres was the minimum lot size.
Ms. Nissen indicated .95 acres was the minimum of the overall Tract 10210, but
the proposed minimum of Tract 14218 was .72 acres, or 31,363 square 'feet.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked' how many dwellings were proposed at build-out in
the entire project.
Ms Nissen stated that Tract 14218 was proposing B dwellings. She stated that
the City had required the applicant to submit a revised geotechnical 'study
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during Design Review of Tract 10210, which showed that a fault line went
through, lot 13 and eliminated any buildable area on that lot. Therefore, the
applicant was eliminating lot 13, but requesting a revision of Tract 1418
from 6 to H lots, thereby netting 34 homes instead of the 'original 33.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Jim Knudsen, C. P. Lange Engineers, stated he represented Nordic and they
concurred with the staff report. he said he was willing'' to answer any
questions.
Chuck Morgan, 84 Almond Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he owned the land
adjacent to Tract< 10210 on the east.. He said the adjacent property owners had
fought a developer's proposal for 1/ ' acre lots, and a compromise was reached
at1-acre zoning, which the; City Council agreed to in Februarys 1982. 1n July
1982 a variance was approved for 2 lots only, allowing them to be not less
than 41,000 square feet. He felt that if the application was approved at lens
than 3/4 acre , the applicant would then try to make other lots 1/2 acre. He
felt the area was; not conducive to 1/2 acre lots. He stated the builder 'would
build his houses and leave and the si'dents would have to live with the
consequences. He requested the planning Commission deny the request.
Art Bridge, 8715 Banyan Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he owned the property
to the west. He gave a chronology of land owners in the area. He stated he
eventually wanted to develop his property' in 2 acre lots. He stated he had
spent $1 ,000 on geology studies to find the fault lines and had a rough plan
to split his land into four 2 acre lots. He felt approval of Tract 1413
would have an adverse` effect on surrounding property owners. He 'asked that
parcels be kept at a minimum of 1 acre.
Mr. Knudsen stated they were requesting increase in the total lots from 34
to 33, which would change the overall average lot size from 1.04 to 1.0
ac<re s. He stated Hillside Residential was zoned for 2 dwelling units per
acre, and their development would be less than 1 dwelling unit' per acre.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesleyr asked for clarification of the Hillside Residential
standards.
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, stated the maximum density permitted in
Hillside Residential is the same as in Very Low Residential' , except it is
based on buildable acres rather than gross acres,. Therefore, lots could' be a
small as half an acre, but only on relatively flat, buildable areas; whereas
on steeper slopes, lots would be significantly larger. Buildable areas are
determined by conducting Design 'Review and Environmental Review processes and
them making a conscious decision regarding minimum lot sues given the nature
of the terrain. He stated for this original subdivision, the minimum was
41;,000 square foot lots. Because a lot in the tract was lost as a result of
supplemental seismic studies , the developer was' turning with this quest to
re-subdivide' a bank of six lots to create eight lots. He said the overall
project would end up with a minimum lot size of 41,000 square feet with the
eight lots in this portion at a 28,000 square feet minimum.
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Commissioner Emerick asked for clarification that the entire project would end
up at over an acre for average lot size.
Mr. Coleman stated that in the recorded Tract 10210 there were some larger
lots that kicked up the average lot size to approximately 1
Vice-Chairman Chitiea- pointed out the developer wanted to add 2 lots in this
one small area.
Commissioner Emerick felt that so long as the average lot size was an acre in
the overall ` development, this layout was acceptable. He stated that on
hillsides, where there is more buildable, 'flatter land there would be smaller
lots with larger 'lots in the re difficult areas. < He stated that since the
minimum for the area was 2 per acre and the developer was proposing 1 per
acre, he felt it was fair.
Co issioner Blakesley appreciated the neighbors' concerns, but he felt that
if lots were to be added, this area would be the best part of the project.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that she disagreed because when the matter was
brought; before the planning Commission in '1981 , it was indicated the lot size
should be around I acre rather than 3,/4 acre. She saw no compelling reason to
allow an additional 2 lots. She stated the developers had lost only I lot from
the tract, and she was uncomfortable with replacing the 1 lost lot with
lots. She stated that even though the development was not high density, it
made a significant impact within this small area, particularly when going from
nearby 41,000 square foot lots down to 28,000 square foot lots
Coamissioner Emerick asked what the frontage was on the narrowest lot.
. Coleman stated it was 14 feet.
Commissioner Emerick stated that was a wide lot.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea pointed out that the 8 lots would back up against only
lots, a significant drop In size.
Commissioner Blakesley stated some space was being lost on one of the lots
because of a trail . He stated it wes a difficult area to build and felt the
developer was not only over the minimum but had a good discretionary
cushion. He supported the project.
Commissioner Emerick stated that from an environmental standpoint, any time
houses and roads are built on hillsides + there is an impact. He felt the
developer was making an effort to fit the houses into the hillside and to
mitigate the impact. He supported the project.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked to look at the proposed ;building footprints. She
reopened the public hearing to allow the applicant to discuss the footprints. '
Jim Knudsen stated they were the same floorplans as on Tract 10210 , a mix o
homes , but was not specific as to plans or plotting.
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Chuck Morgan stated the applicant was correct that the average sire lot in
Tract 10210 was over an acre, but that included some very large lots , at over
acres. He felt the intention of the City Council was acre lots, not an
average size of 1 acre.
Bring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Lion: Proved by Emerick, seconded by Blakeley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 14218. Motion carried
by the following vo
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, E14ERICK
ES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TCL aY carried
Herr: Proved by Emerick, seconded by Rlakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Design Review of Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract
14 18. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TQLSTCY carried
Vice-Chairman Chitiea indicated she supported the architectural design but
opposed the proposed subdivision, preferring instead the larger lets as
originally approved,
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11472 - L - A
subdivision o acres U Md i5fo- 2 parcels in thi Low esa ential
Development District, located on the south' side' of Igth Street, east of
Hermosa Avenue - APN: 202-201-72.
Barbara Krall , Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report,'
Vice-Chairman Chi iea opened the public hearing.
Dan Pierce, GVW Engineering, stated he presen d the owner and they
concurred, with the staff report.
Pete Amodt, 7471 Kirkwood Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, asked how many houses
would be built on the parcel ,
Mr. Pierce indicated one house on each parcel .
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 1147 . Motion'
carried by the following vote :
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA ERICX
ES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSENT: Ctl IS ICNERS: MCNIEL, TOLST Y -carried
E. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87_04 - GREUBEL - The
eve op f a ne g ; or o co re a s oppng den ter consisting o
five structures totaling 30,770 square feet on 3.8 acres of land within
the Neighborhood Commercial District, 'located at the southwest corner of
Haven and Lemon - APN: 01- 6 - ' . (Continued from February 6, 1989. )
Vice-Chairman Chitiea indicated that even i though Item E had been withdrawn,
she would allow the public to comment.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that the applicant had originally
requested a Time Extension becau,se he wes contemplating revising the design
since he was getting back some land formerly leased by the Water District.
said the applicant had now decided to abandon that plan and proceed through
the Design Review Committee process with specific elevations for the building
to fulfill his existing Conditions of Approval . He stated the neighborhood
would have an opportunity to provide input through the Design Review process.
John Ba'rna , ;6331 Revere, Rancho Cucamonga, asked if that meant the applicant
could not develop the land retuned by the Water District.
Mr. Coleman stated he was going to put parking and landscaping on that land.
Mr. Sarna stated that was one of the neighbors fears. He felt it was not in
the best interest of the developer to utilize that land as a parking lot. He
felt the developer was going forward with his original plans` as a result o
the opposition voiced at the last Planning Commission Meeting. Mr. Garno
presented a petition, which'! contained 69 signatures, opposing the building of
the car wash. Mr. Rarna asked what their next recourse would be.
Mr. Coleman stated that the applicant 'would be submitting his detailed
elevations this week to qp to before the Design Review Committee of the
Planning Commission. He stated decisions of the Design Review Committee could
be appealed to the full Planning Commission. He said the applicant was not
proposing to change the site plan, other than to add more parking and
landscaping on the Water District land.
Mr'. Rarna stated the applicant was in for a fight because of the overall
reaction from the public, He felt the City had let the residents down because
they communicated with the; public in general instead of specific terms. He
asked if anyone would want a quarter car wash next to their house, and stated
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he did not want one next to his. He said that when he was collecting
signatures, everyone in the neighborhood told him they had not known it was
going to be a car wash. He said the neighbors wanted issues such as noise,
trash, and layout addressed. He felt the car wash was secluded from the
street and could lend itself to a meeting place where people could hide out.
He felt any type of repair place should not be within 100 feet of a'
residence. He felt a child care center or other use would have been a better`
use of the property.
Mr. Coleman stated public hearings were held on the original Conditional Use
Pe i t.
r. Earna felt there was a difference between Commercial meaning a 7 11 store
and Commercial meaning a quarter car wash.
Mr. routil stated the project had to go back through Design Review, at which
point the City staff would work with the neighbors regarding their concerns .
The Design Review Committee 's decision could be appealed to the full Planning
Commission. He felt there might be significant mitigating measures that could
be accomplished through the Design Review process.
r arna stated' residents vote for politicians to protect their ' best
interests and he felt the project was not in the best interest of the
nei ghborhood a He asked if there was a time limit on the Conditional Use
Permit.
Vice-Chairman Chi tiea stated there would be an opportunity for the residents
to address their concerns specifically regarding the plans brought forward,
including mitigation measures. She suggested they talk to staff outside the
Planning Commission Meeting and staff would explain the process in detail and
pass along their concerns to the developer.'
Gene Ullrich asked when the 'existing Conditional Use "Pe i t expired.
Coleman stated he thought it was the end of June or duly 1989.
Mr. Ullrich asked if the Conditional ; Use Permit could be revoked because of
numerous code violations. He stated` there had been numerous code
violations. He stated he had notified Cede Enforcement numerous times. He
stated Mr. Greubl "s construction company was ignoring the City by, unloading
and loading tractors and bulldozers at 1:00 a.m. every weekend, Mr. A1lridge
stated he had called the police. He stated the applicant had applied for a
color change and then painted a sea green instead of teak green (the approved
color) .
Vice-Chairman Chi iea stated the project would not be granted occupancy until
the applicant corrected the paint and completed the project as approved*
r. Ullrich asked the Planning Commission to look at the code violations and
place the item on` the Agenda to ' revoke the Conditional Use Pe i t because of
numerous code violations and offenses to the neighborhood. He said I arge
tractors and trailers were parked in front of his house and allowed to run 5-
15 minutes and the fumes entered his house.
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. Kroutil stated he would instruct Code Enforcement to resolve the
construction equipment problem.
r. Coleman stated that in order to revoke, suspend, or modify a Conditional'
Use Permit the Planning Commission would have to set a meeting to 'review the
evidence. If them was sufficient evidence, the Co' fission could then set a'
public hearing to consider the revocation, suspension, or modification,
Alicia Ni emirow, 641 Revere Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she was opposed
to the 'car wash because she felt it would interfere with the peaceful , 'quiet
enjoyment of the residents of the neighborhood directly adjoining the car
wa sh. She felt it would draw people at all hours of day and night and provide
a hang ;out for teenagers playing loud music. She felt trash would' end up in
the back yards of neighboring residences and crooks would have convenient
access to hack yards. She felt the car wash would devaluate the neighborhood.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated she; appreciated the concerns expressed, but that
the Commission had no power to act on the use, as it was a permitted use.
Kurt Shull 10336 Orange Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated the proposed use is
adjacent to residences. He felt the Planning Commission should have known
that the use was too close to residences. He felt the residents should not
have needed to protest. He stated air power tools would be used in the open,
Chris Zola-Wright, 106 Bristol Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, felt the property
values in the whole tract would suffer as a result of the car wash.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the residents would be notified when the Planning
Commission looked into the specifics of the car wash.
OLD BUSINESS
F. DESIGN REVIEW OR TENTATIVE TRACT 1 - - M.J. ';BROCK - The design review
of--Yu-1of--Yu-17 ng elevations and difiilid 516t pan or a previously approved
tract map consisting of 151 ` single family 'lots on 101.4 acres of land in
the Very Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) ,
located east of Haven Avenue' at Rings m - APN: - 1074- 51-0 .
Sett Murphy;, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and a letter from
the Chairman of the Architectural Control Committee of Haven View Estates,
which requested various conditions of approval .
Commissioner erick asked about the height conflict with the existing homes.
Mr. Murphy stated that 6 of the 14 proposed units on the east boundary
approximately 2-34 feet high when taking grading into account. He stated
that the grade on lot. S gave the impression of a -story house.
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Commissioner er ck asked if the houses on the adjoining lots in Haven View
Estates were set back 100 feet from the rear of the lots,
Murphy stated they were not.
Commissioner Emerick felt it was unreasonable for the existing homeowners to
request a 200 foot set back from adjoining homes if the existing homes were
not set back 100 feet from the lot line.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the 'public hearing.
Steve Shephard, M. J. Brock & Sans, stated they were addressing the concerns
of neighboring residents. He stated M. J. Brock was sensitive to walls and
would not allow any unattractive wars to be built. He felt the materials
should not be restricted to the list supplied by the Haven View Estates
Architectural Control Committee, as there were other acceptable' materials. He
did not 'want to place all one story houses on the side of the street adjoining
the existing residences, because he felt that would give an unbalanced look to
the street; however, he suggested some houses could be replotted to mitigate
having tall houses next to the existing homes.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked which lots would be replotted.
r Shephard suggesting placing single stork homes on lots 28 and 36.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the developed was planning to install interior
fence walls between the lots.
Mr. Shepha rd s to ted they were not.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the developer was planning to add provisions to
the CC&Rs to prohibit chain link and wood fences.
r. Shephard stated they planned to prohibit chain link fences. He, felt some
wood fences could be attractive and stated the Architectural Review Committee
would have the final approval rights on fences.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked what material was planned for the perimeter wall .
Mr. Shephard stated there was no perimeter fencing, only an equestrian trail .
Commissioner Blakesley asked if grading was the reason for some units not
taking access off the side streets.
r. Shephard stated some lots were designed to give a more plush circular
drive look_.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked to see which lets would be two-story on the model
complex street.
r. Murphy marked the lots.
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Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if the developer could not move one of the taller
houses from the west side to the east side.
r. Shephard stated he would explore the possibility with his engineering
staff.
Commissioner Cmerick stated he would like to see the switch made from Lot 4.
Marc Roy, President of Haven View Homeowners ' Association, asked the size of
the new homes.
r. Shephard stated the minimum size was approximately 3,000 square feet with
a bonus rooms, for a total of 4,000 square feet.
Mr'. Roy stated he was concerned with the garden walls. He felt wood fences
would not survive the winter winds. He said that on the plot plan most of the
lots were oriented east/west, which meant that 'side galls would be exposed to
the winds. He stated that in the first tract, it was required that houses be
a maximum of 28 feet from the center of the grade. He felt the proposed
project should have the same maximum height. He felt the proposed 4 of the
garages facing the street would not be conducive to the 1 ratio on the
existing homes. Mr. Roy stated Tackstem and R ngstem were winding streets of
substandard width, and he felt driveways should not exit to those two
streets'. He felt a two-rung wood trail fence would not blend in with the
existing concrete nail fences. He also wanted ;parking in the front o
properties and on the streets to be prohibited.
Commissioner Blakesley' asked how many homes were built in the existing tract.
r. Roy stated 27 homes were built on the 51 lots.
Commissioner Blakesley asked if there 'were any restrictions on front garages.
Mr. Roy responded that the Homeowners ' Association would not allow any more
front garages to be built.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked how many front garages were in the tract.
Mr. Roy stated they would prefer to have no front garages, but their phase had
1 .
Bruce Ann Hahn, 5087 Granada Court, Rancho Cucamonga, asked where the two
story houses would be that adjoined the existing tract.
Mr. Murphy pointed out which lots were still plotted with two-story homes.
Ms. Hahn stated that "winds are so strong that block wall fences have blown
down in the neighborhood . She was concerned with any driveways exiting onto
Ringstem and Tackstem.
Carle Kruggel , Chairman of the Architectural Control Committee for Haven View
Estates, stated their existing CC&Rs limited the height to a maximum of 28
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feet and he 'felt it was not fair to allow the developer to build higher; He
felt all lots adjacent to the existing tract should be a maximum of 28 feet.
Mr. Shephard stated the developer was willing to prohibit wood fences,: He
stated they wented to mix the fldorplans on each strut to avoid a tract look.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if another location could be used for the models.
r . Shephard stated the location selected was the only possible spot in the
front of the tract. He stated that most floor plans had 4 oar garages and the
CC&Rs required RVs to be parked obscured from the street behind a 6 foot
gall . He stated suet parking had not been considered. He felt the
driveways exiting' to Ringstem and Tackstem could be eliminated with the
exception of one.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked what was planned for trail fencing.
Mr hephard stated they would use PVC.
r Murphy stated split rail good was the minimum ui nt for local
trails and they could de P
� _upgrade VC:
There were no further public comments.,
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked about the "substandard width" of the streets.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer,; stated the project was approved with 32
foot width streets and they were intended to be "no parking" streets .
Mr, Murphy suggested the Commission might wish to approve the Design Review`
with a condition that the plotting be reviewed by the Design Review
Committee. The City could then advise the homeowners, who could then appeal
the decision to the full Planning Commission.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if grading could be used to lower the height of
the houses.
r. Murphy stated that the City has generally favored minimum grading and
therefore the developer^ had designed the tract with stem walls.
Commissioner Blakesley felt wood fencing :was not appropriate suggested
they be restricted in :their' CC&Rsa He suggested decorative masonry could be
specified.
Commissioner Emerick suggested an architectural review committee could be set
up for the tract to review fencing by the individual homeowners.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea felt it might be appropriate have design standards to
give to homeowners as a reference.
Commissioner ' lak sley preferred to have the homes adjacent to the existing
tract lowered to a maximum of 28 feet, particularly on lot 4.
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Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if the Commissioners wished to entertain the idea
l
of additional grading to achieve the lower height.
Commissioner Blaesley felt grading; night be used where the homes were
adjacent to existing homes.
Mr. Murphy stated that if padding were to be utilized, it would entail the
design of the product type by the applicant. He asked if that type of
product should then be used throughout the ;project.
Commissioner Blakeslee favored minimum grading and use of `stem walls. He felt
perhaps some units could be swapped to cut down on the height next to the
existing homes. He felt the units were attractive and thought that the use of
side garages in 60% of the units was a good ratio. He felt the cut-through
circular driveways were attractive and felt homeowners would opt for the less-
traveled route when exiting; the driveways.
Commissioner Emerick felt it would mislead buyers to utilize padding and no
stem walls on the models.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked the Unix of side versus front garages on the model
street.
Mr'> Murphy stated three of the ten homes had front entry garages.
Commissioner lakesley felt PVC for the tail fencing would be compatible with
the existing' fencing and would satisfy durability requirements.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea wanted a condition added to require +PVC fencing.
Commissioner erick was comfortable with the 6 ratio of side on garages and
stated it was a larger percentage than other tracts in the City.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked Mr. Shephard how they arrived at the 60%/40
ratio.
Mr'. Shephard stated that they directed the architects to design as many side
on garages as possible.
'were were no further public comments,
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if the number of front entry garages could be
reduced if the grading was altered.
Mr. Murphy stated that if more side on garages were desired it would require
manufactured slopes, which ' would be out of character with the rest of the
subdivision.
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, stated side on garages could be, placed on
every lot, but it would require redesigning the houses.
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Commissioner Rlakesley felt that considering the bonus room configuration on
some of the front entry garages, the design was satisfactory.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blake ley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Design Review for Tentative Tract with modifications to
require review of the units adjacent to the existing homes to attempt to lower
the profile with revised plans to be approved by the Design Review Committee,
upgrading of the local equestrian trail fencing to PVC, prohibition of
overnight parking on any streets, elimination of designated parking areas
within front setbacks, and conditioning of the C &Rs to prohibit wood or chain`
link fencing. Motion carried by the following vote-
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK
COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EL, TOO OY -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
C. APPEAL OF DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE DECISION TO COLOR MODIFICATIONS TO
Steve Hayes, ; Assistant Planner, presented the staff report, along with color'
samples and photographs of the buildings.
Vice-Chairman invited public comments.
The applicant was not present and there were no public comments.
After reviewing the color samples, it was the consensus of the Commission to
uphold the Design Review Committee 's decision.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
H. SELECTION OF C ISSIONERS TO ATTEND GROWTH MANAGE14ENT WORKSHOP
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that Larry McNiel and Suzanne
Chitiea would attend the workshop.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried t
adjourn.
9: 0 P. Fla ng Commission Adjourned W a March 2, 1989, workshop at the
Ranch Cup mon Neighborhood Center at 4:00 p.m. to discuss the Etivanda
Nor Spec fic P an.
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CITE' OFRANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
February 8, 1989 ,
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at :00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the: pledge of allegiance.
City Clerk Revery Authelet administered the oath of office to Suzanne Chitiea'
and Bruce E ` rick:
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce'
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT. None
STAFF PRESENT: Bread Buller, City Planner* Ian Coleman, Senior Planner-,
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, '
Deputy City Attorney; Brett Horner, Assistant Planner;
Dave Leonard, Park Project Coordinator; Russ Maguire,
City Engineer- Beverly Nissen, Assistant: Planner; Paul
Rdu eau, Senior Civil Engineer, ; Gail Sanchez, Secretary;
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer; Joe Stofa, Associate
Civil Engineer; Chris Westman, Assistant Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner announced that this evening's meeting would adjourn
to a workshop on February 9 to discuss the Work Programs for 1989/90 and
1990 91
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by To'lstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of October 6,` 1988.
Lion: Moved by Chtiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of October 1I', 198 , as amended.
Lion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of December 5 1988, as amended.
Motion* Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of January 5,` 1989.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of January 19, 1989.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, carried with Emerick
abstaining, to approve the minutes of 'January 25, 1989, as amended.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. MOOIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87- - WESTERN PROPERTIES - The
a ono of---ifibd-n-ted equipieR screen walls to an approved office park
development consisting of four 2-story buildings totaling 243,000 square
feet on 16.58 acres of land in the Office Park District of the Terra Vista
Planned Community, located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and
Town Center Give - APN: 1011-4 1-05, 09, and 10.
. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 10210 - C. P. LANGE _ The design review of
u ng a evat ons and dif7aile e P an or dts 1, 14, 20, 21, and 29
of a previously approved tract map consisting of 33 single; family lots on
9.91 acres of land in the Hillside Residential District, located north of
Almond Street, between Sapphire Street and Turquoise Avenue - APN: 0-
441-01, 1 , 20, 21, and 29.
C. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 14 _ MERICKEL DEVELOPMENT e
eve op n o -s-i—n—gTe—family attached n on ac s tr and in
the Low-Medium Residential District 4'-8 dwelling units per acre) at the
northwest comer of 6th Street and Hellman Avenue - APN: 09-161-04, 05,
and 05.
D. VACATION OF ALL - A request to vacate alley southerly of gth Street and
s r y o a avaras Avenue - APN: 07- 41- 1.
Lion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
approve the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC H I S
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1055 - AANSS e
eve op n o' n Dose un son' . acres of land -fin-the Medium
Density Residential District 8-14 duelling units per 'ac , located north
of Arrow Highway and east of Baker Avenue - APN. 07 1- 2 and 12.
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned what type of gates would be installed. He
requested cards or some similar device, whereby mobile home residents would
not have to exit their'`cars to operate the gate.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
James Ross, Avaness Industries;, indicated they were planning to provide
sliding gate with cards used for access, so that people could open the gates
without exiting theircars.
Commissioner Finerick asked if an easement would be granted to mobile home
residents to allow them to go over the project site.
Mr* Ross stated there was an existing easement, which they were planning to
replace with two easements.
Dee Murray, 8651-1 4 Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she was head
of the mobile horn park residents ' committee. She requested that she be
allowed to bring the natter of the gates before the residents' committee if
there were going to be any costs passed along to the mobile home park.
Chairman McNiel stated that the gates would be installed at the applicant's'
expense.
Ms. Murray 'asked if the mobile home residents would have to pay for
electricity.
Mr. Ross stated the electricity would' be paid for by the new development. He
stated that one of the complaints of the mobile home park residents had been'
that traffic cut through the mobile home park, but with the gates, through
traffic would no longer be able to cut through the park.
Chairman McNiel stated there should be no economic impact upon the mobile' home
park residents.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy requested that the Resolution be modified to indicate
that grading; equipment could not be serviced during non-construction hours.
He also requested that residents moving into the townhome project be advised
that the access to the mobile home park was not :reciprocal .
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested that written notice be given in
the CC&Rs regarding the access easement being cane-ways only.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked about dust control .
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, suggested a condition be added to control dust.
Commissioner Emerick vented the CC&Rs to reflect that all operational
maintenance costs for the gates would be borne by the condominium homeowners'
association.
Chairman McNiel felt it would impose a burden on the homeowners.
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Commissioner erick felt it was important to spell out in advance who would
carry the burden of repairs.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Ross stated the applicant would pay for the cost of installation and the
electricity would be paid for by the condo homeowners' ;association- but he
felt, it was fair to ask the mobile park residents to pay for repair casts,
since they would he the ones using the gate.
sMurraystated that the mobile park owners have the right to pass through
any new expenses. She therefore wanted to be able to return to the mobile
home parkresidents ' committee. She felt perhaps the gatesweren 't necessary.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the mobile park already had an access going
through the project and the security gates were being installed to control
north/south through traffic, which world benefit the townhome owners as well
as the mobile park residents. He suggested the Resolution could be modified
to provide that the location, design, and maintenance of the gates should be
approved by the City Planner, following a meeting bet" en the mobile home park
residents and the applicant.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the mobile home park may want to
be able to fix the gates when they break instead of waiting for another
homeowners' association to fix them.
Commissioner Chitiea asked what would 'happen if the mobile home park residents
decided they did not want a gate.
Buller stated that if the gates were eliminated, t ugh traffic could cut
through both the mobile home park and the townhome project.
rRoss stated that the applicant did not wish to impose any burdens on the
bile home park residents, and therefore they would be willing to accept the
responsibility of maintaining the gates.
sMurray asked about the ability of emergency services to enter through the
gates.
&. Coleman stated that the design of the gates would be approved by the fire
department and the City. A NOX box would be required, which would povide a
key for access by emergency 'services.
rRoss stated they didn 't want to impose a gate if the mobile home residents
did not want `the gate.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that Planning Commission concerns regarding the
original density of the project and sighting of certain buildings were
addressed in the redesign of the project and she appreciated the applicant's
efforts in achieving the improved designs..
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Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by + Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 14055 and Design Review
of Tentative Tract 14055,; with modifications quiring automatic sliding
gates, conditioning of the CC& s to provide consistent maintenance of the
gates by the condominium Homeowners' Association, conditioning of CC&Rs to
indicate that the access was not intended to be reciprocal , and dint control
measures, as well as prohibiting servicing of construction equipment during
indicated non-construction hours, Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIE , TOLSTOY`
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
I
F. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL SEE PERMIT -C EIi E -' The
eve op nt o' a neig „ or od co rc a shopping center cons sting of
five structures totaling 30,770 square feet on 3.8 acres of land within
the Neighborhood Commercial District, located at the southwest corner of
Haven and Lemon - APN: 201-262-48.
Chris West man, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jerry Greubel , applicant, stated they questing a time extension because
they wanted to redesign phase II of the project in order to include land
formerly leased by the water company. He stated he would be happy to answer
any questions}
John Rarna, 6331 Revere, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he lived behind< the
protect. He stated that when the water company was digging the well , it kept
him awake at nights. He asked what 'would be going' in directly next to his
house.
Chairman McNiel stated he recalled it to be a self-service car wash.:
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he remembered the wall was to be heightened at the
guest of a resident. He also stated the design of the westerly portion of
the site which includes the cawash tube bays, and detail shop would be
reviewed by the Design Review Committee prior to the issuance of building
permits.
Chairman McNiel read Planning Division Condition 1 indicating a "combination
of decorative walls and landscaping blending with the existing residential
development. . .shall include tall growing ' evergreen trees to provide ! such
screening" to be approved by the City Planner.
Mr.' Barna was concerned with the element he felt used self-service car
washes.. He indicated he would like have a higher wall and some trees for
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screening. He indicated that the southern part of his wall was only -1/
feet on the car wash side.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, indicated that if the applicant wanted to revise
the plans to include the additional land from the Water District, it 'would'
require going through; the Conditional Use permit process main because of
requested modifications. Therefore, the public would have the opportunity to
provide input into the hours of operation, noise mitigation measures, etc.
r. Creubel stated the ll had been checked and it could be built higher. He
stated 'that the project had been designed to have the noisy fu do s turned
toward the inside of the project, away from the surrounding residents.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated the planning Commission should discuss.
whether they believed the current conditions in the approved Resolution were
sufficient to address the concerns of surrounding residents. If they felt the
conditions should be modified, they could reevaluate the conditions prior to
granting the Time Extension.
Commissioner Chitiea hoped the existing conditions were sufficient to allows
the issues to be properly addressed during design 'reviews. the asked if it
would be possible to control the hours of operation.
Mir, 'Buller indicated it would require n amendment to the original Conditional
Use Permit.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the hours could be limited on the Resolution
granting the Time Extension.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated they could.
Commissioner Chitiea proposed limiting the hours of operation.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred.
r Coleman suggested adding the standard conditions developed by the City
Council on the Nu West shopping center, which are now being used as standard
conditions on commercial development dealing with hours of operation, property
maintenance,' graffiti removal , trash pickup, etc.
Commissioner Chitiea felt that would be appropriate.
rBuller suggested the Commission might wish to continue the item for two
weeks in order to allow' the applicant time view the additional
recommended conditions.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r Greubel agreed to a two-week continuance.
Planning Commission Minutes -6- February B, 1989
Motion: ved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakeslby, to continue Time Extension
for Conditional Use Permit 87-04 until February 22, 1989. Motion carried by
the following vote:
APES: COMMISSIONERS: 81LAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, 'MICNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
U. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11780 - K NBLATT - A
su ' v s an arc an nto parse s in cry Low
Residential District (less than 2 dwelling unfits per acre) , loca d on the
northeast corner of Almond and Mai Streets - APN$ - 71-55.
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 8 8-15 - KORNBLATT - A request to
reduce e m n mum average o s ze ram , square feet to 21,954
square feet on two lets within the Very Low Residential District (less
than 2 dwelling units per acre), located on the northeast corner of Almond
and Mai Streets - APN: 201-071-55.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and indicated that the
Commissioners had in front of them three letters from surrounding residents'
who opposed the project.
Commissioner Emerick excused himself from hearing the item ;because he had
formerly represented the applicant on a different matter.
Joe Sofa, Associate Civil Engineer, recommended changing the warding o
condition 1 of the Resolution to real "Approval shall be contingent upon the
action of the City Council to amend the existing Lien Agreement, Resolution
81-1 7. "
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Melvin Kornb'latt, 10010 Almond Street, Rancho Cucamonga, applicant, stated
that four or five lays on the approved Friedman project faced C Street and
none faced Almond. indicated the potential existed for other lot sues on
Almond, as there was one other undeveloped parcel . He presented pictures of
all the homes which faced Almond.
Chairman McNiel asked if Mr. Kornblatt planned to hook up to the sewer system.
Mlr. Kornbltt indicated he planned to do whatever the City required. He
stated he would prefer to hook up to the sewer.
Bob White, 4947 Mai Street, Rancho Cucamonga, requested that the application'
be denied because the lots would be smaller than called for by the City code.
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Gary Williams, 9988 Almond, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was afraid if the City
allowed this lot split other owners of 1 acre lots would want to split their
lots in half. He also stated Mr. Kornblatt had his property for sale.
Rarrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the lots met the minimum lot
size, but not the average lot size.
r* Williamsfelt the development of the lots would require a large amount of
fill because of the grading, and there would be a big differential in the
finished grading of the two lots.
Phil Herrera, 4949 Ramona, Rancho Cucamonga, was concerned that allowing the
split would set a precedent for the smaller' size.
Dale Renegar, 9942 Almond, Rancho Cucamonga, indicated he moved to the area
because of the spacious lots. He felt allowing the variance would set a
precedent, and indicated other lots in the area were larger.
r.. Kornblatt felt the open space was lost when the Friedman project was'
approved.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
r Coleman indicated that the average lot size was added to the code in or er
to allow for variation in lot sizes. He indicated it was not intended to deal
with a parcel being split into two lots, but was intended to relieve the
monotony of tracts with all lots of the same size.
Commissioner Ehitea appreciated theresidents ' concerns and felt that as the
Friedman houses were built the feeling of density would be increased. She
felt allowing another lot split would add to the feeling of the loss of
openness and could find no reason to support the variance. She was
additionally concerned that the split might set a precedent in ;the area.
Commissioner Bla esley felt the split might need substantial grading.; He
stated that on tracts the minimum lot sizes are allowed, but the Commission
preferred the average. He saw no reason to support the variance.
Commissioner 'Tolstoy felt that as residents move into an area that is sparsely
built, they must be aware that open space may vanish as parcels are
developed. He indicated that other property owners might wish to split 'their
1- or 2-acre lots in the future and he felt it would not be fair to deny lot
splits Just because of a loss of open space, Because the two lots met the
minimum lot size requirement, he "felt it would be unfair to block the split.
Chairman McNiel felt the measurements seemed contradictory because a minimum
lot size of 20,000 square feet is required, but the average size should be
22,500 square feet. He felt it would be difficult' to deny the application
when it met the minimum lot size and just fell short of the average lot
size. He saw no mason to disallow the split and felt to do so would cut into
the rights of property 'owners who wish to split their parcels.
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Commissioner Ohitiea indicated the smaller parcel would be subjected to
traffic lights coming into it from the Friedman tract and would require
additional grading.
Chairman Mc Niel stated the width of the smaller lot would be 103 feet, and it
would be comparable to others lots in the area.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that whoever bought the lot would have to design the
layout in order to overcome the site difficulties, and those difficulties
would be addressed at that time.
Mr', Coleman stated that under Planning Commission Administrative Regulations,
a tie vote means no action, which constitutes a denial with no Resolution
either approving or denying the project. Therefore if the item was appealed
to City Council , the minutes would constitute the record.
Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel to adopt the Resolutions'
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11780 and
Environmental Assessment and Variance 88 I5. Motion did not carry by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, ONITIEA
ABSENT, E ISSIONERS: NONE
ABSTAIN, COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK
5:40 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed
9:00 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLANAMENDMENT
goes o change thi propose
ocat on of' 19 Rea Hill oun ry Club Drive and Foothill Boulevard
intersection,; as shown in the Specific Plan, by the realignment of Red
Hill Country Club Drive to approximately 400 feet east of the present
intersection with Foothill Boulevard, based upon an in-depth engineering
study.
Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. He suggested
rewording Condition 5 to indicateat the Planning Commission recommended
approval .
Commissioner Tolstoy asked to see the drawing of how the cul-de-sac would be
placed.
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Commissioner Chitiea asked how the Magic Lamp driveway would be impacted.
r. Rougeau stated the Magic Lamp should widen their driveway for better
access.
Commissioner Emerick asked how many vehicles would be able to make a left turn
from Foothill going north on Red Hill Country Club Drive during peak' traffic.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Joe Foust, principal of Austin-Foust Associates, Inc., the firm which prepared
the feasibility study, stated the current count is 208 vehicles per hour
making left turns during afternoon peak hours. It was felt that this included
both residents and through traffic. They estimated that with no left turn
arrow 2` - 4 vehicles would be able to :make the turn per cycle, equating to 160'
left turns per hour.
Commissioner Einerick asked if the number of vehicles making the left' turn
would be decreased as westbound traffic on Foothill increased.
r Foust indicated the number of vehicles making a left turn would then drop
to I - 2 per; cycle, thereby decreasing the hourly number.
Commissioner Emerick asked if that would be enough to serve the residents of
Red Hill .
r. Foust stated they felt that would be sufficient for resident traffic.
Commissioner Blakesley asked why a short-duration left turn arrows was not
being recommended.
r Foust indicated their experience has been that if left turn arrows are
unduly short, many drivers ' merely continue to turn after they receive a red
light.
r. Rougeau indicated that with a left turn arrow, some people speed up to try
to make' te arrow.
r. Foust suggested an all -red interval at the end of the yellow light, with
no left turn arrow.
Chairman Mckiel felt there would be more accidents with no left turn arrow.
r Foust felt that an all red signal would provide the cushion to prevent
accidents. He felt that if a left turn arrow was installed, it would add to
the through traffic using Red Hill .
Commissioner Blakesley preferred a left turn arrow.
Betty Anton, 7611 Buena Vista, Rancho Cucamonga, stated her two main concerns
were traffic control on Red Hill and the ability to turn left onto Foothill
from Red Hill Country Club Drive.. She wanted eastbound traffic routed to the
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Sycamore Inn, where it would make a U-turn. She felt only residents would
willing to make a U-turn at the Sycamore, as it would be shorter for through
traffic to continue on to Vineyard in order to go north.
Tom Francis, 2241 Michel torea, Los Angeles, stated he owned property across
from the Sycamore Inn. He asked if the traffic flog study had considered'
traffic' all the way to Baker.
Chairman McNiel stated that it had.
Michael List, 771 Alta Cuesta, Rancho Cucamonga, stated safety on Foothill
Boulevard and the amount of traffic on Al; Cues should b considered. He
did not; feel any of the proposals addressed the Alta Cuesta traffic. He asked
for the elimination of the curve on Red Hill Country Club Drive. He suggested
going further east on Foothill and making a road opposite the trailer park;
entrance on Foothill .
Chairman McNiel felt that would create a greater problem for Baker Street.
r. List suggested another option would be to construct the road north of
Baker, entering the new tract on the front of the hill , and going north; from
there to Red Hill Country Club give.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, felt that the -1 slopes in the area
would make it very difficult to construct a street.
Mr. List was concerned about the cars stacking to make a left turn in order to
go north on Red Hill Country Club drive.
Chairman McNiel stated a median island would be constructed to separate the
traffic from westbound traffic.
Ben Mackall , 9956 Hemlock Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he represented Nay
Cramer Mackall the owner of the parcels involved in the proposed
realignment. He stated they were concerned and felt their remaining lot would
become undevelopable, and they therefore n d adequate compensation from the
City.
Elizabeth lve , 8166 Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she was
the owner of the service station at Red Hill Country Club Drive and Foothill
Boulevard. a felt ralign nt was a was of taxpayer money that the
alignment should remain as is. She felt that prohibiting left turns onto
Foothill Boulevard from Red Hill Country Club give would solve any current
problems. She expressed concern that with the realignment, traffic would
rely cut through the service station.
Joshua Warren, 7893 Alta Cuesta, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had lived on Alta
Cuesta for the past eighteen years. He was concerned about the increase in
traffic` using Alta Cuesta. He felt eastbound traffic on Foothill should not
be able to make a left hand turn onto Red Hill Country Club Drive. He stated
that morning traffic going ; south on Alta Cuesta was gust as bad as evening
traffic.
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Chairman McNiel stated the traffic in the morning going south would be the
same as the 'traffic in the evening going north. He said he was instrumental
in getting the stop sign installed at Yale Vista some years earlier, and he
felt that had helped to slow traffic. He said the Sheriffs were also active
in the area.
Mr. Warren felt the speed enforcement by the Sheriffs was very sporadic
because the City did not have the money to ;provide for continual enforcement.
Dale Frisby, 7904 Valle Vista, Rancho ' Cucamonga, commended the traffic
engineers and agreed that Alternative 4 was the best solution. However, he
did prefer a green left turn arrow of short durations, because he felt without'
one traffic would back 'up toe far.
Bob Brown, 7624 Alta Cuesta, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he thought 2,200 cars
per day currently use Red Hill . He felt not that much over-the-hill traffic
would be eliminated, He also thought the Sheriffs should ticket more people.
Pat Lewis, 8335 Camino Sur, Rancho Cucamonga, liked the engineering study.
felt Alternative 4 was good and felt a left turn arrow could be installed
later if necessary.
Emanuel St olman 8433 Valle Vista Place Rancho Cucamonga,n a felt it was a fair
_
solution. He wanted to know how soon the City would start condemning the
property and how soon the construction would take place.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated it was preliminarily scheduled to begin'
this fiscal year through the Cal-'brans process. However, because of the
lawsuits, the schedule was pushed back approximately ten 'months. He felt the
program would be started through Cal-Trans in June with design work beginning'
in December, and; acquisitions and right-of-way negotiations beginning the
following June.
Mir. Stolman asked how the City would deal with property owners to obtain title
to the property.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated the City would try to negotiate
with the owners , but if necessary they could condemn the property and pay fain
market value.
r. Stolman asked how soon the City would be dealing with the property owners.
Chairman McNiel stated it would be necessary to deal with the appropriate
agencies prior to commencing negotiations. This meant that the City would
require approval of Southern Pacific for the railroad bridge and Cal Trans.
Therefore, the process could take a long time.
Don Bollinger, stated he represented San Antonio Hospital , and they
appreciated the City "s willingness to reconsider the originally proposed
realignment through their property. He felt Alternative 4 made better traffic
and economic sense, He stated they now could go forward with the planning and
development of their property.
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Gordon Zwisler, 7879 Sierra Vista, Rancho Cucamonga, felt the alternative made
the most sense. He indicated that Red Hill Country Club quite often has
dinner 'parties or meetings 'which meant that many cars sometimes would need to
make a left within a short period of time.
Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesley felt from a symmetry point of view Alternative 2 looked
the bent, but he felt it was unacceptable to impact the Sycamore Inn. He felt
Alternative 4 was a goad compromise.
Commissioner Chitiea was also not willing to tamper with the SycamoreInn or
its trees. She felt it s not appropriateto put a street rough the middle
o kin l a r o She thought r parking t. oug t ;Alternative native 1 was too costly and would impact
future devel'opment too much. She favored Alternative 4, but felt installing
left turn lane without a signal would be a safety hazard. She supported the
proposal with a left turn arrow of reasonable, not minimal , length.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt Alternative 4 was the best solution to a weighty
problem and he agreed with Commissioner Chitiea regarding the green arrow.
Commissioner Emerick supported Alternative 4, but was not sore regarding the
left turn arrow. He felt the traffic engineers were more knowledgeable in the
area, but he was afraid the engineers may :have been placing too much emphasis
on cutting down through traffic.
Chairman McNiel stated he liked the original concept of cutting through to
Grove because it would reduce the traffic on Foothill Boulevard, Of the
current proposals' he favored Alternative 1 because' he felt it would better
service Baker and Red Hill Country Club Drive, but he felt the cost was too
high. He felt the alternatives cutting ;through the Sycamore Inn were not
acceptable. Therefore, the only viable alternative was 4. He did not like
the idea of a non-signalized left turn lane, even if it meant more through
traffic.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt that safety had to be a higher concern
than the amount of through traffic.
Lion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Foothill Boulevard
Specific Plan Amendment 89-02, with modifications to state the Planning
Commission was recommending approval . Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS.- BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES: COMMISSIONERS.- NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: N -carried
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DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
K. REVIEW OF CONCEPTUAL PARK DESIGN; FOR TWO TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY
Dave Leonard Park Project Coordinator, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the fencing prevision. He asked if it would
be temporary fencing and who would set it up.
Leonard stated that permanent fencing would be installed, and it would
only be necessary to lock the access areas.
Commissioner Tolstoyasked if there would be any means to control the water
outflow.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated there would be an inlet/outlet
structure located in the lower 'basin with a restricted outflow to keep the
flog below the limits set by flood control , He said there would be
approximately four pedestrian access gates as well as vehicular maintenance
access gates, with the vehicular gates normally being kept closed: He said
the lower basin would probably be closed off during the storm season.
Commissioner Chitiea asked the design and height of the fencing.
Mr. Leonard stated the specifics had not been designed, but they envisioned
columns with wrought iron, probably 6 feet high.
Chairman McNiel asked if there would be grass in the ponding area.
r Silva responded there would be grass in that area and ground cover on the
slopes.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the ponding site was a stop-gap measure until
another flood channel was constructed.
r. Silva responded it was meant to be permanent.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the field would be lame enough to have games in
the summer.
Commissioner Finerick questioned the land use compatibility between the volley
ball court and nearby residences.
Leonard responded there was an elevation differential and the area would
not be lighted at night.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Tom Dellaquila, Lewis Homes Landscape Architect, felt the area would be
unusable only during storms. He stated they had retained Professor Perry from
Cal Poly to be sure the plants selected were suitable. He felt the field
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would be suitable for passive uses and stated the park was designed to work in
conjunction with the YMCA Park,
Chairman McNiel stated the YMCA Park was subject to change and would be
considered in a workshop in the future.
n Thompson, Lewis Homes, stated they were willing to make changes which the
City requested,
Commissioner Finerick asked what kind of soil would be in the ponding section
of the park,
r, Dellaquila stated it would be sand with rocks,
There re no further public comments.
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated the Planning Commission was being asked
to provide comments regarding the land use issues.
Co issioner Tolstoy hoped passive park use would be encouraged.
Commissioner Blakesley requested that there be shading of the tot lots and
adult seating areas surrounding the tot lots.
Commissioner Chitiea asked that they be sensitive to seating for visibility of
the tot lot, She felt it was important that the YMCA are a and park be
designed together and: asked if the YMCA had been given an opportunity to
comment on the La Mission Park,
r Leonard stated YMCA had been involved,
r. Leonard suggested that when park lands are moved, it sometimes makes it
difficult to find large enough areas for ball fields.
Chairman McNiel stated that there o schools of thought regarding parks,'
with people thinking that every small park needs a ball field and another
group which 'thinks the City needs a large proactive park with all kinds of
ball fields. He felt small , passive parks were_needed in this area.
Co' issioner Chitiea indicated there werelots of reasons for parks, and not
all included ball fields,
PUBLIC HEARINGS
J. TRACT 13273 - LEWIS HOMES - A request to modifycondition of approval
o a _060 ous i-p proved and recorded one-lot tract+ for 256 condominium
units within the Medium-High Residential District (14-24' dwelling units'
per acre) of the Terra Vista Planned Community, located at the southeast
corner of Milliken Avenue and Mountain View iDrive - A ® Z -1 ,
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Debra Meier, Associate: Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Borg Thompson, Lewis Homes, stated that they volunteered to switch the site at
the YMCA and add more land to the park, but approval of the park Mans would'
now take much longer than approval for a green way trail . He requested the
Planning Commission approve the modification to allow then to obtain building
permits prior to approval of the park plans, but indicated they would build'
the trail system concurrently with the homes.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel felt the request was reasonable.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, asked for clarification on the Resolution
condition regarding release`of SA of the units.
s. Meier stated the SC% release referred to occupancy.
Linn: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving the modification to Tract 13273, with modification to state the
greenway sidewalk shall be constructed and landscaped prior` to release o
occupancy for 50% of the units. Motion carried by the following vo
AYES: COMMISSIONERS.* BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TBLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE
ABSENT: C ISSION S: NONE -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
L. TENTATIVE TRACT 13886/CBNDITION USE PERMIT N -01 - N B BI /'CHI
eview o' propose roo r a or a -unit fo-Wnfi6iiFe project and a
9,000 square foot commercial center, located at the northwest corner of
Base Line Road and Etiwanda Avenue - APN. 7-5 2 01, 02, 03, 04 and 27-
S 1-65.
Ban. Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Mark Elliott, Nal band in/Chian, stated he wanted to emphasize that the light
fight of the Cal-Shakes was necessary or they would have to redesign both the
interior and the exterior of the'commercial building. He pointed out that the
material was twice as ,expensive as concrete tile, He stated the developer's
intent was to create a building similar to the Christian Farmers' Market. He
stated concrete the could be used on the condominium units without
redesigning the units.
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Commissioner T'olstoy asked about the wind load factor.
Mr. Elliott stated it was rated 70 pounds,
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if that meant 70-pound wind load would be the
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maximum that would be experienced.
Stove Miller, Cal-Shake, presented a catalog showing pictures of Cal-Shake'
applications, an International Conference of Building Officials i1CBO) report,
a letter from Los Angeles County approving the use of Cal-Shake, and article
regarding Cal-Shake. He indicated they had an; application which withstood a
typhoon with winds in excess of 100 mph. He gave a brief history of the;
product and showed samples.
Chairman McNiel asked how the material stood up over time.
r# Miller indicated they had applications in Hawaii over ten years old, and
that wood snake roofs generally only last seven years in that climate. He
stated the product may tend to lighten slightly as it ages.
Chairman McNiel stated the ICBO report and the Los Angeles County letter did
not comment regarding aging. He said his concern was that with the high wind'
conditions that Rancho Cucamonga experiences, the roof aright not last. He
stated that because of its light weight, the product implied it might not be
strong. He was also concerned because if the roof material did not worm out,
the only alternative might be asphalt shingles, because the structure would
not support a heavier, the roof.
Mr. biller stated there was a 30 year warranty on the roof. He stated the
product had been installed in paler Springs, which has higher winds, and they
haven't had any problems .
Chairman McNiel stated warranties were not worth much.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked how the roof was attached.
Mr. Miller responded that it was attached with staples.
Commissioner Chitiea asked how the iron oxide roof coloring would be repaired
when the roof became scratched from someone walking on i t,
r* Miller responded that the roof came with a touch-up ;kit. He stated the
roof would normally have a scuffed up look, which gives it more of a look of
wood shakes.
Jorge Garcia, 7161 Cambridge Avenue, stated he was an architect. He felt Cale
Shake was an excellent material , and would be better than concrete because of
the light i ght and the fact that it could be more firmly attached with
additional staples, whereas with concrete file you cannot add additional'
nails,
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Chairman McNiel wondered if the Cal-Shake material might not become wind borne;
like a frisby, instead of merely falling to the ground like clay and concrete
tiles. ;
Commissioner Tols'toy thought Cal-Shake ties might withstand someone walking
on them better than brittle tiles.
r. Garda agreed the Cal-Shake would probably be better.
Chairman McNiel asked about flexible strength of Cal-Shake.
r. Miller stated so long as it was installed 10 inches or less, it could be
walked on with no damage.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Chitiea stated> than so far the product seemed to be working, but
the guarantee would be only as good as the company standing behind it. Her
major concern was; that if the product did not work, the building would not bei
strong enough to support a concrete the roof, and the City would be 'stuck
with a less attractive roof`. She also did not really care for the look of the
Cal-Shake.
Commissioner Emerick felt the Commissioners were not comfortable with Cal-
Shake because they had not seen an application. He stated he would like to
see an application and would like to see how it weathered through a season.
He felt the main problem with roofs is how they are attached, and problems had
been experienced in one housing tract with tile roofs because the developer
did not use long enough nails. He felt the roof would not blow off so long as
it was fastened correctly. He felt that from the ground the Cal-Shakes would
give the appearance of a wood shake roof and the pictures satisfied his
concerns regarding aesthetics. He was willing to allow the application on the
commercial building, but would prefer not to have it on the residences.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated that if the ' roof were built to support
al ternate material , he woul d be wil 11 ng to al low the use of Cal-Shake. He was
willing to use it on the grouses because 'their structures would support the
heavier the if it was necessary to replace the roofs. He was a little
apprehensive about experimenting with the large commercial building, and then
perhaps' being forced to accept asphalt. He felt the Cal-Shakes looked better
than a wood shake roof.
Commissioner Blakesley indicated his initial concerns were more with
aesthetics and he felt' that from a distance it would look fine. He felt that
if the developer had proposed a straight industrial building, they would be
using a hot-mopped asphalt roof and the Manning Commission would be
satisfied. However, because the developer was proposing a commercial building
to be compatible with the residences, the Planning Commission was being more
selective in the roof material . He was willing accept the Cal-Shake roof. '
Chairman McNiel felt the building interior could be changed to support the
the roof without affecting the exterior. He asked Mr. ,Elliott what kind of
roof was used on the Christian Farmers ' Market.
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. Elliott stated that the roof on the Farmers' Market was fiberglass
shingles, ' stated that in order to support the heavier 'roof the exterior of
the building would have less glass and it would need a larger amount of sheer
wall expanse.
Chairman McNiel stated he was reluctant° to approve the use of Cal-Shake
because of lack of history. He asked what others options there would be on the
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commercial building if the Cal-Shakes did not work.
r'. Elliott stated there are other manufacturers with other products.
There were no further public comments.
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to see the whale project use Cal-
Shake, including the residential ' s tion.
Commissioner Emerick stated he was willing to allow Cal-Shake on the entire
project.
Lion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, to approve the Cal-Shake
material for both the residential and the commercial portions of Tentative
Tract 1' BS6/Conditional Use permit 88-01.. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERICK, TOL ' CY
ES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy,' unanimously carried, to
continue the eting beyond' 1.-00 p.m
M. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW Bg CT A. W. DAVI E.S - A request to add BUC
squaFe eet o office space o an Mitifig' FuTMng and warehouse totaling
4,560 square feet on 3.82 acres of land in the General Industrial District
(Subarea 3) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on the southeast
corner of 9th Street and Helms Avenue_- AP : 209-0 I and 64.
Brett rner Assistant Planner, ;presented `the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Charles Cokow, 222 North Mountain Avenue, Upland, attorney for the applicant,
felt it was unfair to require $ 50,UU0 worth of improvements in order to bring
the property up to code when they only wanted to add bCC square feet of office
space, He felt the Nolan court case supported their contention that Citifies do
not have the power to rub out all non-conforming uses, They felt the only
lawful requirement was the need for additional parking.
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Jorge Garcia;, project architect, felt the conditions would; be justifiable on a
full development review, but were not justified for a minor development
view. He felt better guidelines should be spelled out in the ordinances to
ever what constitutes a miner development review and what leniency p staff was
allowed to exercise in addressing improvements required. He also complained
that eight months had elapsed since they applied for the building permit and
they still were net able to start construction.
Chairman McNiel stated that when a non-conforming use has been in place for a
very long time and the balance of the area has grown and developed i into what
the zoning requires, the only chance the City has quire property be;
brought up to present'codes is when the owner wishes to ke changes to his
property.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated there was another alternative. He
stated the non-conforming section of the Development Code, does not allow
discretion by building officials, City planner, Planning Commission, or City
Council to waive mandatory standards contained in the City Code. However, the
Planning Commission may allow an expansion of the use if the expansion meets
two conditions: (1) the use must comply with the General plan, and i the
use must not be detrimental to the health, safety, or welfare of neighbors.
Any expansion would require a public hearing, at which time the Commission
could decide which improvements to pursue.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that in looking at the chronology it did not
appear that the City had delayed the applicant, but rather the applicant had
allowed appeal periods to 'lapse without acting. Therefore,, she felt that
representations that the City was slowing down the process seemed inaccurate.
Commissioner Blakesley stated the project was an eyesore as well as a non-
conforming use, but he felt a conflict with requiring improvement of the whole
lock with the small office addition.
Doskow stated that the use itself was not non-conforming, there were other
aspects about the site that were non-conforming.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Emerick felt perhaps phasing would be acceptable to allow the
applicant to improve the property, without quiring him; to come up with all
the money immediately.
Chairman McNiel stated that the property did have a large street frontage.
Commissioner Emerick stated that on November 10, 1988, the applicant had
proposed phasing of the improvements, and he felt the City should perhaps
accept phasing He felt the proposed three years for screening might be too
long;
rBuller stated that at one point in time the applicant was willing to
phase, but their most recent application indicated they did not wish to make
any of the required improvements. He said that from a fire code perspective,
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the building was non-conforming with the current lot lines, He stated if a
certificate of compliance lot line adjustment was made to bring the building
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into compliance with fire code regulations, the lower parcel of land could be
excluded from the parcel .
Bill Silva stated that under the Municipal Code, once the requirement for
improvements is triggered, the improvements must be made. Therefore, the only
opportunity available for phasing would be to split off the southern lot.
Commissioner Blakesley didn't think phasing was appropriate.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt a 600 square foot expansion on that large of a
building did not warrant the lame expense for improvements, even though he
felt the building and; the site was an eyesore.
Commissioner Chitiea felt it would be appropriate for the City to require the
improvements to ;bring it into conformance with present development, or i
might encourage the applicant to find another property.
Chairman McNiel felt the property was fast becoming too valuable for the
applicant to merely sit on it.
Commissioner Blakesley felt a 600 square foot 'expansion would not perpetuate
the under-utlization of the property . He felt if they were requesting a
larger office expansion, it would make more sense to require all the
improvements.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that as recently as November 1988 the applicant
had been willing to make the improvements on a phased basis. She felt the
City should try to do as much as possible to clean up the'area.
Commissioner Blakesley felt screening the property from view would be
appropriate and desirable.
Chairman McNiel asked Mr. Davies when he estimated they would move to another
location.
A. W. vies, applicant, stated he estimated the life of the project to be 3 -
years.,
Chairman McNiel asked if it would be possible to adopt the Resolution with a
time line condition.
r. Hanson stated an agreement could be adopted which would state when
improvements would be completed. However, forcing compliance would involve
going to court and convincing a Judge to use injunction' powers to force the
action. + He recommended against bonds on private improvements. He stated
there could be a cash bond, but if the applicant had the money they mould do
the improvements now.
Chairman McNiel stated that options 1 approve the application with
conditions listed, (2) deny the application, or ( ) continue the item to hold
a public hearing to consider allowing an expansion of the non-conforming
use, He invited the applicant's comment.
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Mr`, Doskow stated they would prefer the third approach.
rR Davies felt it was unfair for the City; to require improvements 'or such a
small expansion, when he had been a businessman in the City for 28 years and
had neighboring properties which were ,dust as ugly as his.;
Motion: Moved by Blakesley,, seconded by Emerick, to continue Minor
Development Review 89-07 to March 8, 1989, to conduct a public hearing.'
Lion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EM RICK, TDLSTQY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS.* IMCNIEL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Chairman McNiel stated he opposed the continuance because the applicant did
not showy a willingness to compromise.
r.. Buller asked for guidelines from the Commission as to negotiation
parameters. He asked if they wished to negotiate only on phasing, or the
physical development of the site also.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the objective was to try to clean up the
neighborhood ' as best as possible. He felt the parking was critical and
perhaps landscape screening.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if this was fair to other developers who had to
bring their properties 'up to code when making changes to their properties.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that any requirements should be potentially useful
for the new use when Mr. Davies sells or redevelops the property.
Commissioner Chitea stated she would like all the improvements, but was
willing to consider phasing.;'
Commissioner Emerick wanted the 3 feet of dedication for street right-o -way
on Helms Avenue. He suggested a wall should be required on 9th' Street.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
N. DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS
Commissioners Chitiea and Tolstoy were appointed to the Commercial/Industrial
review team, and Commissioners Emerick and McNiel were appointed to the
Residential review team. Commissioner Blakesley will serve as alternate.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, distributed maps to the Tolstoy residence'.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this t,ime.
J R ENT
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
adjourn,
1 40 A.M. - Planning Comission adjourned to a workshop February 9, 1989, at
the 7olstoy residence, 9540 Hillside, Rancho Cucamonga, to discuss iwork
programs
Respectfully submitted,
A
Brad B 11er
Sep re ta ry
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
February 3, 1989
NORTH ETIWANDA PLAN WORKSHOP
Chairman McNiel called the adjourned February 3, 1989 meeting of the Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 4: 0 p.m. at the Rancho Cucamonga
Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga The purpose of this
meeting was to allow the Commission and staff to comment on concerns regarding
the preliminary draft of the Etiwan a North Specific Plan*
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS.- PRESENT, David Blakesley, Suzanne Chiti a, Bruce
Emerick, Lamy McNiel , 'Peter Tolstoy
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner-, Larry Henderson, Senior
Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior, Planner; Miki B'ratt,
Associate Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Bruce
Abbott, '; Associate Planner; Beverly Nissen, Assistant
Planner; Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner; Jeff Gravel ,
Assistant Planner; Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, 'Barry
Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Betty Miller, '; Assistant
Civil Engineer.
Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, made a brief introduction, outlining the;
course of the workshop, stressing that the meeting would not require a recap
presentation from the Caryn Company and Land Plan Design Group
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, began by indicating that the Specific Plan
should expand its text, describing the architectural types and their specific
elements. He said it should also include signs that designate neighborhoods
and garages and their types and locations on the individual lots.
Commissioner,, Blacesley suggested that the architectural types be described
and their locations indicated in the plan area.
Commissioner TolstDy agreed.
Joe DiIhrio, President of the Caryn Company, explained that only the most
neighborhoods.la styles from each type o architecturewould be mixed in particular
_ For example, styles from h
p o s y s each :type of architecture which may
have similar structural or aesthetic elements would be l a d in their own
neighborhoods.
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Jess Harris Land/Plan Design Group,, indicated that the materials to be used
in the particular neighborhoods would be provided in the Specific Plan.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested they investigate the concept of the use o
alleys. He said he would like to avoid the look of garages dominating
residential street frontages.
Commissioner Chitiea was concerned with neighborhood wall types and asked what
type of materials would be used and would they be associated with the entry
portals. She stressed the impor ne of using natural stone and real brick
rather than synthetic materials.
Mr. Tolstoy ;asked if the entries of the neighborhoods would contain the names
of the individual; neighborhoods.'
r. Ci lorio said these possibilities were boding' considered. He said currently
they were including the names of the neighborhoods at the entries. He said
they would provide a graphic detail of what had been planned.
Brad Buller, City Planner, asked if the names of the neighborhoods should be
on entry monuments or if the entry monuments themselves should identity the
neighborhoods through their design and use of materials.
r. Ci ldrio said they would' have some graphics prepared to represent the types
of walls they are thinking about and show them at the next workshop.
r. Buller voiced a concern about the mix' and variety of architecture
proposed. He suggested that the plan clearly state the mix and variety for
each neighborhood.
r. ai lorio suggested using the ratio provided in the Etiwanda Specific Plan
to determine the number of architectural 'types; needed. He stated he had not
tried using 'this ratio yet on the new project- however, an analysis would be
made and a conclusion would be presented in the future.
Commissioner Chitiea said there should be a minimum number of architectural
elements per architectural type and that the plan needs to address the types
of material used on the side yard fencing.
r. McNiel said that developers would capitalize on the minimum standard. He
suggested it probably would not be a good 'idea to have a minimum standard.
r Buller indicated the Commission still needed to review the .subdivision
standards s such as setbacks, building separation, and lot width' and depth.
r. McNiel questioned lot widths and what width would accept side-on garages.
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r. Ci orio said there would be a :variation of lot widths throughout the
project and in each area a certain percentage of the lots would have the width
to provide side-on garages.
Commissioner Tolstoy said the agenda of the next workshop should discuss the
canyon areas and the bog.
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Henderson added there was a need to discuss commercial standards in the
project area.
t was agreed that the next workshop would be scheduled for March 2, 1989 at
4:30 p.m. before the Design ;Review Committee meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
ABrad�Bul r
Sec re ta rr
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
February 2, 1989
TERRA VISTA TOWN CENTER WORKSHOP
Chairman Larry Mckiel called the special: workshop meeting to order at g:C
P.M. at the Ranch Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho
Cucamonga
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT. David Blakesley, Suzanne Chi tiea, Bruce
erick, Peter Toltoy, Larry McNiel
STAFF PRESENT. Brad Buller, City Planner, Ban Coleman, Senior Planner,
Debra Meier, Associate Planner
TARGET STORE
Michael Moorman, project architect for Target Stores, presented three
alternatives to the gent elevation of the Target structure in response to the
comments generated at the January 19, 1989` workshop.
e Commission preferred Elevation Scheme B. Of the many items discussed on
January 19, 1989, this elevation specifically included the following item
which were of concern to the Commission:
1. The use of the had been eliminated within the arch over the main
entry doors. Mr. Moorman now proposed the use of polished stone,
2. e vuss'oi r around i the main arch will also he polished stone.
3. The building plain will "telescope" back from the front wall to the
entry doors.
4. A column was selected to be used on each side of the entry arch.
5, The' blind cut-outs on either side of the entry will include Polished
stone against the back wall , and the wainscot planter in foreground.
6* A semicircular painted metal grill will set in front of the polished
stone over the main entry.
7. The cut-outs east of the garden center will have polished stone
against the wall matching the cut-outs around the main entry.
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8. The garden center entry will simulate the main entry, using a similar
arch and grill pattern on a smaller scale.
g. Vines will be planted to climb up the arbor.
In addition to the revisions noted above, the Commission discussed the overall
elevation and reached a consensus with regard to the following design details.
1. The the medallions shall be made of one color )tile (dark blue)
rather than two colors.
2. The narrow rectangular cut-outs on either side of the entry arch are
to be deleted.
. The stucco surface between the stone vussoir and the edge of the arch
will be a lighter' color than the main wall
4.' All metal gill material shall match the dark blue tile the extent
possible.
5. The entire front elevation shall include a the wainscot. The tile
wainscot shall be included on the building face behind the
trellis/planter feature.
6. The screening material used behind the gates into the garden center
should be of a somewhat opaque nature to screen views of garden
supplies.
e Commission approved the elevation as revised, incorporating all comments
as noted above,
UNIFORM SIGN PROGRAM
Tom Bond, Architects Pacifica, ?presented the aspects of the sign program that
remained unresolved from the January' 5, 1989 workshop.
1. Project Identification Monument Sign: In response to the previously
propose 11 12' x 19' iWiFuiFen s gns, the architect presented a low
profile wall WO" maximum height) that is located on each side o
e main entry drive from Foothill Boulevard. The identification of
Terra Vista Town Center will be displayed on the central portion of
e wall (white letters on a blue the background). Near the street
frontage will be a 416" x "0" plaque identifying Edwards Cinema.
A secondary wall sign of smaller scale will be l a d on either side
of the entry from Haven Avenue. This wall will identify "Terra. Vista
Town Center"' only (White letters on blue file background) .
2. Major Tenant; Identification: These will include three monument signs
anti Y ng or iia su jor tenants.'' Two will be placed at
secondary entry ``drives from Foothill Boulevard and one on Haven
Avenue, south of the project entry drive. These signs are o"B" in
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height and 9'8" in width, and will identify two majors on the signs
located on Haven and the westerly Foothill Boulevard entrance, and
one major and two sub-majors on the easterly Foothill Boulevard
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All signs are to include internally illuminated letters, as well as
soft flood lighting of the ;sign structure. A maximum of two letter
colors will be permitted on ;any one sign. The monument signs will be
stucco with finish and 'color matching the buildings.
3. Tenant 'Wall Signs:: The Commission agreed to the following hierarchy
of a er sizes:
Major tenant - 4'3" maximum (Target's bullseye would be 5'0" dia.)
Subsequent major tenant signs shall not exceed the square footage of
the Target sign.
Sub-major tenant 'U" nominal height
Retail shop - 18" maximum letter height
4. Restaurant ignage: A basic rectangular monument sign has been
esTabilShed for use by the restaurants along Foothill Boulevard. The
size presented was acceptable The Commission wanted to add a stucco
cap to be consistent with other monument signs.
In addition, the Commission wanted a ' clause added that would allow
deviation from this bane form and material through the design review
process in conjunction with the review of the building architecture.
5. Theater 'Marquee. The Commission did not reach a consensus regarding
size are ayou of the marquee. The architect will be redesigning
the sign based upon using a 6" marquee letter height# Commissioner
Tol stay was concerned that the marquee, in its ;proposed size, would
not be readable to motorists traveling on Haven Avenue. tither
Commissioners were unsure of increasing the size of the sigh, but
were willing to consider it upon reviewing the alternatives.
With those changes, the Commission approved the Uniform Sign Program for Terra
Vista Town Center.
e meeting concluded at 11:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
A
grad gu; 1 er
Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes - February 2, 1989
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
January 25, 1989
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7: Q P.M. The meeting' was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 91611 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California, Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emerick, Larry
Niel , Peter Tol stay
ABSENT. David Blakesley
STAFF PRESENT* Laura Bonaccorsi , Landscape designer; Miki Bratt,
Associate Planner, Brad Buller, City Planner; pan
Coleman, Senior Planner; Jeff gavel , Assistant Planner,
B r ye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, Ralph Hanson,
Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant 'Planner;
Brut Horner, Assistant Planner; Chuck' Mackey, Associate
Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, Dino
Putino, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Bill
Silva, Deputy City Engineer; Chris Westman,, Assistant
Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that David Blakesley had the flu.
Mr. Duller announced that he had received a letter from OAS Investors, the
applicant on Item V, requesting that the item be movediforward on the agenda,
as they had to travel back to San Diego ifollowing the meeting.
Mr. Duller announced that staff was recommending continuance on Item F.
r. Buller announced that staff had received letters from the applicants on
Items and T requesting the items be withdrawn.
Mr. Duller announced there would be a free Sign Workshop on January JO from
7:00 - 9:00 P.M. at the Lyons Center.
Mr. Duller* announced that this evening's meeting should adjourn 'to a workshop
on February 2 during Design Review to discuss the Etiwanda North Specific Plan
and the elevations for the Target building in the 'Terra Vista Town Center.
Chairman McNiel stated that in ;light of the long agenda for this evening's
meeting it would be inappropriate to move any items around on the agenda.
Commissioner Emerick felt Item V might be a lengthy item and he was not in
favor of moving it forward on the agenda.
APPROVAL CE MINUTES
Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstdy, unanimously carried, to approve the
minutes of January 11, 1989.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 - SMITH The
aadit5h 6f seven apar n un s an sting apart complex
consisting of 63 units on 5.33 acres of land in the Medium Residential
District (8-14 dwelling units per acre), located on the east side of
Archibald Avenue, south of Church Street - APN: ' 1077-3 - S. (Continued
from December 1 , 1988.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing to ask if anyone was present to
speak regarding the item. ` Hearing no testimony, the public hearing was
closed.
Motion: Moved by Tol stoy;, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Development Review 88- S to March 8,
1989, as requested by the applicant.
C. ENVIR
ONMENTAL ENTA ASSESSMENT CONDITION USE PERMIT H - - EGGHEAD
e miquest to esta-Bliifi i Z6ip-VFeF c as room and office in a
ease space of 1,000 square feet within an existing multi-tenant
industrial park on 4.01 acres of land in the Haven Avenge Overlay
District, located at 9170-9190 Haven Avenue - APN: U9- 6 -17.
(Continued from January 11, 1989. )
OLD BUSINESS
T. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-10 - DIVERSIFIED The
o eve nt o Phise I I I o I f a he g or o cd ercia opp ng center
consisting of two retail buildings totaling 14,800 square feet on '1 .96
acres of land within an approved shopping center in the Neighborhood
Commercial District, located at the northeast corner of Haven and Highland
Avenues - APN: 0I- 71-b5 and 71. (Continued from October 26, 1988.)
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to honor
withdrawal requests for Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit
Sd 48 and Environmental Assessment and Development Review 'HH-1O.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
A. VACATION OF JUNEBERRY DRIVE - FONTANA STEEL INC. - A request to vacate
une erry rive, oca lout o rrow ou , approximately D feet wide
and 710 feet long. APNi: 9-11-35.
B. VACATION OF A PORTION OF ALMOND AVENUE - CARYN COMPANY - A request to
vacate a por ion Of mon venue, oca South of 24th Street of
Etiwanda area, approximately 23 feet wide and 1,812 feet long. APN; -'
111-D1.
C. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 13541 - PRID A ® The design review of building
e ova 65o ind detaiTeds-1-te plan or of 12 single family 'lots of a<
previously approved tract map on 4.42 acres of land in the Low Residential
District '( -4 dwelling units per acre), located on Sierra Vista, north of
Red Hill 'Country Club Drive - APN: 7 2-D1.
D. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 11606-1 - EL CAPITAN DEVELOPMENT CO., INC.
eMw o Me pan and building a ova iot-s or a previously approved'
tract consisting of 41 single family residences on 11.3 acres of land in;
the Low Residential District' ( -4 dwelling units per acre) , located east
of Mango, south of Victoria Street - APN* 0 -771®d1 thru 41.
E. TIME EXTENSION FOR PARCEL MAP 9431 - BRIMAR INDUSTRIES _ A division of
2-.-9F4--acr6s7 into 4 pares in thi cry ENdwelling units per acre)
Development District, located on the east side of BerylAvenue, south of
Hillside Road.. APN: 10 1-611-D4.
Bill Jahn, President of Pride mark, request removal of Item C from the Consent
Calendar.
Lion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
approve Items A, 8, D, and E of the Consent Calendar.
C. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 13541 - PRIDEMARK
Chairman McNiel opened the public heaving.
Bill Jahn, President of Pride mark, 2030 East Alosta, Glendora,' requested that
he be allowed to use wood fencing instead of masonry in the side ,yards and
rear property line. He stated that they purchased the property as finished
lots and there was no mention in the conditions of approval for the finished'
lots regarding masonry walls.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she would not object to allowing wooden fencing
between the lots, but she felt masonry should be used in side yards exposed to
public view. She felt it would be consistent to require masonry along the
back of the lots where it backed iup to existing 'lots.
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Commissioners Tol stay and Emerick concurred`.
Brad Buller, 'City Planner, stated that Planning Commission policy has been to
require perimeter masonry walls except where a masonrywall already exists.
Chairman McNiel reopened the pudic hearing.
r. Jahn sta d they would put masonry walls along the back of the bats and in
the return areas.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
r. Huller suggested rewording the condition to allow the applicant to 'work
with adjacent property owners to avoid double walls between lots.
Motion. Moved by EmericR, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Design Review for Tract 1541, with modification to allow the
applicant to use City Planner-approved wood fencing on interior property lines
not subject to public view, Motion carried ,by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHIT EA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, T LSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: RL ESLEY -carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 9- 1 t PI ASSI
reque amend' e seraT_ PMT-lana use ROM LOW e 1 ent1a -4
dwelling units per acre) to Low-Medium Residential 4-8 dwelling units per
acre) for 4 acres of land, located at the southeast corner of Milliken
Avenue and Vintage Drive - APN' 5- 51-4 .
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT D DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT d-
'PTTASSI -
rem dw es� en a p ees oo n s roc-. wel ling units per acre,) to Low-Medium residential (4-8 'dwelling
units per acre) for 4 acres of land, located at the southeast corner of
Milliken Avenue and Vintage Drive - APN: 5- 51 47.
Dino! Putrino, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He indicated
that on Friday, January 20, the applicant applied for a Conditional Use Permit
for an extended care facility for -110 beds®
Commissioner Tolstoy requested clarification on the intended use of the
proposed facility.
r. Putri o confirmed that it was to be a congregate care facility for
ambulatory senior citizens.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, stated there were two type of senior projects in
the City. The project was closest in concept to the Villa Del Rey project on
Baseline.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
George Hawthorne, CMI Investment Properties, stated he performed a market
study and found a need for senior care facilities. He provided a handout
which described facility types, and indicated they were proposing a congregate
care facility, which would provide three meals a 'day and transportation for
the facility residents. He stated that type of facility would best be suited
to a residential environment as opposed to a commercial area, because most
patients would not be fully ambulatory to walk to offsite locations. He
stated his company conducted two to three field surveys to ask nearby
homeowners their concerns; and s ons s indicated sidents were concerned
with possible loss of view, increased traffic, and type and quality of the
development. He said they conducted a neighborhood meeting, which was
attended by two residents who stated they were representing their neighbors.
At the end of the meeting, the residents stated they would support the
project.
Pete Pitassi , applicant, stated' the eight; acre site was currently owned by the
Episcopal Church and was in escrow to CMI Properties. The current plans
called for developing the northern four acres as a congregate care facility
and the southern four acres would be developed for church use. He stated a
congregate care facility 'does not need proximity to shopping because those
facilities are provided within the building. He said rooms are designed
smaller than a hotel . He indicated twomailings- had been sent to homeowners
to announce' the neighborhood meeting. He said the two residents who showed up
said they were representing some of their neighbors who could not attend. He
said they had researched the Caryn Specific Plan and if the land was zoned
Low-Medium, the City could easily get 5,000 square foot lots, which was the
average for the area. He stated seismicity was addressed in the soils' report
and the property was not 'within the special zone for concern. He asked for
direction from staff on why additional seismicity information was being
requested. He requested the Planning Commission to allow additional time to
address the issues and perhaps delay the General Plan Amendment and
Development District Amendment so that the project could go through Design
Review` simultaneously with the Plan Amendments.
Chairman McNiel asked why the site was selected.
r. Pitassi responded that a congregate care facility should be located in a
residential area, because the seniors feel more comfortable and safe in a
residential aoea than a commercial one. He felt ' that' because many lots of
today are too small to add rooms for elderly parents, relatives prefer to
place their parents in a neighborhood setting.' He said that Villa Del Rey was
90% occupied within 15 months, 'an that indicated a need in the community for
this type of facility. He proposed seeping the scale of the buildings down to
be more compatible with the surrounding homes, and allowing more open, common
area.
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The following residents spoke in opposition to the project:
Fred Deaux, 1106 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga
Patricia Ernst, 6323 Mt. Wellington Court, Rancho Cucamonga
Ron Herman, 11577 Mammoth Peak Court, Rancho Cucamonga
Larry Mayfield, 110 Mt Wallace Court, Rancho Cucamonga
Don Baer, 11572 Mammoth Peak Court, Rancho Cucamonga
Frank Munoz, 6621 Kern Place, Rancho Cucamonga
James Krager, 111405 Mt. Wallace Court, Rancho Cucamonga
Lour Garcia, 6400 Eagle 'Peak Place, Rancho Cucamonga
Lydia Mayfield, 110 Mt. Wallace Court, Rancho Cucamonga
,toe Lauer, 6348 Mt. Wellington Court, Rancho Cucamonga
They expressed concerns' about the congregate care facility becoming a ho l ,
usage and architecture not being compatible with the surrounding no park
ark
or shopping. within walking distance for the seniors, increased density,
increased traffic, and no guarantee that the facility would be built or that
usage wouldn 't change. They stated they had been told the site would be used
for a church, park, or school , and they objected to any other usage. Six of
the residents stated they had never been contacted regarding a survey or the
neighborhood meetings.
Vivian Clubb, 11351 Mt. Wallace Court, Rancho Cucamonga, presented a petition
which opposed the , plan changes and was signed by 29 residents of Vintage
Highlands.
Berl Eldridge, 11419 Mt. Wallace Court, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had not
been con,tacted previously and asked how the process worked.
Chairman McNiel give a brief explanation of the Plan Anendment and Design
Review processes.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that anyone signing in this evening would
be added to the mailing list to receive notice of the City 'Council meetings.
gentleman (unable to determine name because he did not sign; in) stated he
was representing residents of the Windsong tract south of 19th Street and
asked how to add an item to the agenda to protest closure of Highland.
Ralph Hanson, City Attorney, stated that under state law the Planning
Commission was prevented from responding to any matter not on the agenda. He
indicated people were welcometo speak during the Public Comment time, but the
Commissioners could not respond.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested a representative from the group could
submit a letter requested to be added to the agenda for a future meeting. He
then met with a group of approximately 30 residents in an adjacent room and
explained the status of the realignment. Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer,
de` himself available to answer questions.
Planning Commission Minutes - - January 25, 1989
Mr. Pi tassi stated the mailing list had been put together from!the assessor's
tax reds. He ' stated they were willing to cooperate and have future
neighborhood meetings with the residents, He felt shopping centers did not
need be close because van service would be provided. He said the project
would not be a resort environment, it would only be designed to provide the
needs of the residents. He felt traffic volume would be increased only
slightly because of the type of residents. He ' requested the Planning
Commission continue the items to allow time to address the issues' with the
residents.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel asked for clarification on the request for additional
seismicity studies.
Mr. Putrino stated the geotechnical investigation report did not address where
earthquake faults might be located on the .site and did not state how deep the
soil borings were performed.
Chairman Mc Niel asked now far the site was from any known fault lines.
Mr. Putrino stated the i was approximately half a mile to a mile north of
the designated fault area.
Chairman Mc Niel asked if it was common to request seismicity studies of
applicants.
Mr.' Coleman that reports are required for all projects within the City
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designated Aluist-Priolo study zone for the referred Red Hill fault.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the issue before the Commission dealt with a `
change in density and did not encompass what would eventually be built on the
site. He stated that if the land use designation was changed, there was a
possibility the church or the congregate care facility might, not be developed,
and an apartment !house could then be built on the site. He felt' the City
needed the type of facility being proposed, but it would be out of character
with that neighborhood. He thought the zoning should be -4 dwelling units
per acre to be compatible with the neighborhood,' and that allowing the site to
be designated for 4-8 dwelling units would result in spot zoning, which he
felt was inappropriate. He felt' the proposed facility could not be compared
to Villa Del Rey, because Villa Del Rey has a park and shopping centers near
it.
Commissioner Emerick stated the General Plan was prepared to allow people to
obtain a general idea of what would eventually be built, and the City should'
encourage people to feel they can rely on the document. Therefore, he felt
applicants bear a' heavy burden to show good justification for General Plan
Amendments. He did not feel the applicant had shown good cause for changing
the density. He liked the project, but preferred see it moved to an area.
already appropriately zoned.
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Planning Commission Minutes; -7- January 25, ;1989
Commissioner Chi ti ea felt the reference to Villa Del Rey was not valid because
Villa Del Rey is adjacent to active facilities and residents of that project
have expressed that they life the site because they feel they are part of the
neighborhood. She felt seniors need an opportunity to interact with the
neighborhood and this would not be available without a park or other
destinations within walking distance. She felt the development`was good from
an architectural and community need, but was not appropriate for the area in
question
Chairman McNiel felt there was not enough room for church facilities to be
built on the remaining 4 acres of the site. He felt the City heeds the type
of facility proposed, but it did not appear to be the right location. He
stated that if the density designation was changed opportunities would abound
for other types of development to be built.
Lion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolutions
recommending denial of Environmental Assessment and General ' Plan Amendment 89-
01A and Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment -0 .
Lion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS.- CHITI' A, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS.- NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. BL ESLEV -carried
8c30 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed
8:44 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT B9-01B - WILLIAM LYON
- re es o aaren o sites o e an use map-of e enera
an ithin the Victoria Graves (west of Milliken on 9,3 acres) and
Victoria Vineyards (east of Milliken 12.9 acres) Villages, located on the
south east and wrest corners ofHighland and Milliken Avenues. The request
proposes changing the designations from Medi -Ri gh Residential (1 -24
welling
_1 n uni
ts its per sore) to Neighborhood Commercial on the east ::site and
Neighborhood
Commercial to Low-Medium Residential (4-8 dwelling units per
acre) on the west site - N. 227-011-2 ' and 202-211-4 .
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 39-01 -
reques o 'amen a an use es gna ions w n
e Victoria roves (west of Milliken on 9.3 acres) and 'Victoria Vineyards
(east of Milliken 12.9 acres) Villages of the Victoria Community Plan,
located on the south east and west corners of Highland and Milliken
Avenues. The request proposes changing the designations from Medium-High
Residential (14-24 welling units per acre) to Neighborhood Commercial on
the east site and Neighborhood Commercial to Low-Medium Residential (4-8
dwelling units per acre) on the west site - APN: 227-011-22 & 202-211-48.
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Jeff Gravel , Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Bailey, Manager of the Victoria project for William Lyon Company, stated
they had addressed neighborhood concerns and he felt that surrounding
residents now supported the project.
Fred Deaux, 110 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had discussed the
project with ny of his neighbors and they were in agreement with the
reduction in density.
Geoff Reeslund, SGRA Architecture & Planning, San Diego, representing Hughes
Investments, stated they would develop the Neighborhood Commercial site. He
said they have three major tenants prepared to occupy the property - a
supermarket, drug' store and service station. He stated they had done site
studies on both sites and if they were forced to use the smaller site, the
service station would not fit and there would be inadequate parking for the
other tenants. He stated they would submit a Conditional Use Permit in March
if the Amendments were approved
Hearing ;no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the project now addressed the needs and concerns of
the neighbors and she supported the project. She requested the center be
developed at the same level of quality as the Terra Vis Village Center.
Lion. Moved by Chitiea seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolutions
recommending approval of Environmental ss nt and General ` Plan Amendment'
89-01B and Environmental Assessment and Victoria Community Plate Amendment 89
D1. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MINI , TQLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:S: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY' -carried
L. VARIANCE 88-2 - CASTLE - A 'request to allow a room addition to encroach
into the requi-red-- inte41or side yard setback by 5 feet for a single family
residence in the Low Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre) ,
located at 9868 Cypress Court - APN: 01-503-15.
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public heading.
Randy Castle, the applicant, stated he was available to answer questions.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Planning Commission Minutes -9- January 25, 1989
Commissioner Chiti'ea felt the 20 foot averaging met the intent and the
addition did not seem to encroach on the neighbors. She supported the
Variance.
Commissioner Emerick felt the intent of the 20 foot setback was to avoid the
look of too much building mass. He felt the view from the street would show
n intrusion of the building into the open space, but as the neighbors did not
appear to oppose to the project, he would support the variance.
Lion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Variance 88- 7. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried
M.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1898 - NINE A residential
su ivs5n o sing a family lots on 2:47 a s 5T' land in the Low
Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , located at ` the
northwest corner of Lemon and London Avenues - APN: 201-251-57 and 58.
Scott Murphy ,' socia Planner, presented the staff report. He recommended
deletion of Lemon Suet under the list of required street improvements,
because the work had been completed under a City contract.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Henry Nunez, applicant, thanked the staff for their professionalism` and
courtesy.
John Wong, 5436 Valinda Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, owned the property to the
north and stated that Liberty Street originally was south of his property, but .
when the developer` to the east built their lots, they moved the street north
10 feet. He did not want the layout proposed with the cul -de-sac curving up
into his property.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated` the issue of alignment of streets within the
property to the north was not the issue being considered tonight. He said the
the only street issue being considered was the amount of street dedication
being required from the northern lot of the Nunez property.
Chairman McNiel asked the width of the lots.
r. Murphy responded they were 55 feet wide except for lot 1 , which was 150'
feet by 131 feet.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated that even though the homes to the west on
Archibald were the same zoning, in reality they were on larger lots. She felt
the narrow lots seemed out of character with the adjacent ' existing
neighborhood.'
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what the ingress would be for the lot to the west
of ±lots �4, S, 6, 7`, and 8.
Mr. Buller responded that they have an easement to the north of lot 8 and
wound have access off Liberty Street.
Dan Coleman, nior planner, stated that Liberty{ Street was not being
constructed as part of this development, and the existing dirt road would
remain as access for the western lot.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked why Liberty was not being constructed.
Mr.' Hanson responded that it did not meet the minimum width for maintenance,
but a fee would be collected from the applicant for future development.
Chairman Mc Niel did not feel there was a conflict with the lots on Archibald,
but felt there appeared to be a conflict with the lets across London Avenue.
He felt one lot should be eliminated, because wider lots would make' the tract
re compatible with the neighborhood.
Mr. Coleman pointed out that the 'lots to the east of London Avenue were Crider
but shallower, with the square footage being approximately the same as the
proposed development.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the narrower lots would still give the appearance of
a higher density, and she agreed that one lot should be eliminated.
Commissioner Emerick felt increasing the setback could mitigate the density
feeling.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to ;ask Mr. Nunez if he would be
willing to request a continuance to allow time to resubm,it' the tract map.
Mr.i Nunez stated he felt he could set his houses back to relieve the dense'
feeling. He stated he planned to subdivide and build the homes.
Chairman McNiel stated' that if he could provide homes that would give an air
of space there s a chance he could keep eight lots.
r. Nunez stated the square footage of the lots was similar to those across
London Avenue, and he felt nice houses would be more attractive' than the
perimeter wall across the street.
Commissioner Tolstoy said he preferred elimination of one lot, but was open to
looking at the designs.
Co issioner Chitiea stated the larger lots to the west are equestrian, which
can be in conflict with non-equestrian smaller lots.
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Mr. Buller stated :that it would take two months to go through Design Review
process.
r. Nunez stated he was willing to waive the time limit and requested a
continuance to allow him time to return with elevations.
Lion; Moved by; Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel , to continue Environmental
Assessment and Tentative Tract 13898 to March 22,, 1989. Motion carried by the
following vote.
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL, TOLS° OY
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: BL ESLEY carried
N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT -O C - CITY OF
r'eques a s a o parse s approxima y
TO7.a`c_r_e`sF_oT_We _General ;Plan land use map from Medium Residential (8-14
dwelling units per acre) to Low-Medium Residential (4 8 dwelling units per
acre),; for those parcels located on the south side of Lemon extending
approximately 1,100 feet 'east of Archibald Avenue and the parcel on the
north side of Highland extending 780 feet east of Archibald 'Avenue - AN:
01.- 5 -01, 03, 04, 21, 22, 39,' 40,,41, 4 , and 43.
Jeff Gravel , Assistant planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Lawrence Gaiefsky, 6393 Jadeite Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, favored the
Amendment. He felt lowering the density would help cut future traffic
congestion..
Scott Anderson, 9848 Liberty, Rancho Cucamonga, supported the change to Low-
Medium.
Hearing no further
th
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testimony, public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adapt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and General plan Anendment
89-0E. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES;
COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BL ESLEY -carried
Planning Commission Minutes -12- January 25, 1989
O. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND; INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 89-01
request to modify-- e lociistreet
circa a ion pattern within Subarea 8, located north of Arrow Route,
between the I-15 Freeway and Etiwanda Avenue, necessitated by a proposed
MWD power generating plant at the northwest corner of Etiwanda and Arrow.
P. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT
rogues o i e egona
Re-Tate Commercial an ' use 60066 from APN: 9-021 59 and 9-03.E-1.5,
and show access points for the block bounded by Foothill Boulevard on the
north, Arrow Route on the south, I-15 Freeway on the west, and Etiwanda
Avenue on the east, necessitated by a proposed M O power generating plant'
at the northwest corner of Etiwanda and Arrow.
Chuck Mackey, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened` the public hearing.' Nearing no testimony, the public
hearing was closed.
Chairman Mc Niel asked for clarification of the issue.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated the issue was traffic circulation.
The intent of the suggestions was to amend the Industrial Area Specific Plan'
to delete proposed streets which connect Etiwanda Avenue+ Arrow Route and
provide a loop street with an option for future land development as either
Light Industrial or Regional Related Commercial .
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded; by Emerick, to adopt the Resolutions
recommending ;approval of Environmental Assessment and Industrial Specific Plan'
Amendment 89-01 and Environmental Assessment and Foothill Boulevard Specific
Plan Amendment 8941. :Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY -carried
Q. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA' COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 88-0
vas on an use an rc cia a ion a ot eng'
approximately acres'' for Phase One of the Village of Victoria Lakes
South, bounced by Rase Line Road to the north, Miller Avenue to the south,;
the easterly boundary of the Victoria Planned Community the east,, and
the Southern California Edison corridor° to thewest; and various
amendments to land use and circulation to reflect "as-built" conditions
within the Villages of Windrows, Vineyards and Groves.'
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea questioned the trail recommendation of 12 feet wide, to
allow patrol vehicles.
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Commissioner Tolstoy felt the purpose was not to have routine patrols, but to
allow for patrol in the event of an emergency.
Commissioner hitiea felt 12 feet of paved surface was toe wide for aesthetic
reasons
Commissioner Emerick wanted some way for people to in ract with the water,
and suggested paddle boats or a fountain element allowing people to get wet
might be appropriate.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Bailey, Manager of the Victoria project for William Lyon Company, stated
they would do whatever the City wanted regarding the use of the lakes, so far
as allowing boats, swimming, or whatever.
Chairman McNiel questioned if softening could be dope on the corners of the
street intersection at the north 'side of the lake to reduce the impact of the
hardscape.
Mr. Bailey stated the plaza was set in such a war that people would be looking
t the lakes from the area, He said the plaza included enhanced paving.
Commissioner Emerick thought a more formal promenade area with night lighting
fight be nice along the lower lake, He thought the walkway along the lower
lake should go all around the lake.
Mr. Bailey stated the restaurant pads 'were designed at a higher elevation than;
the; trail to allow people on the trail to walk by without interfering with the
views of the diners. He said the trail was currently a natural setting, but
they would make the area more formal if the City wanted.
Commissioner Emerick liked the idea that the lake area was' dedicated to public
use rather than private.
Mike Robbins, representing the Nichiren Temple, stated the Temple had not been
asked to provide input. He expressed concern that the Temple would have to
improve a road that would not benefit them. He liked the concept but felt
changes were proposed without allowing Temple input.
. Coleman stated the major concern appeared be Victoria Loop bounding the
west side of the Temple property. He stated the alignment had not changed
from the original plan, He said William Caron Company would have to improve
both sides of the street, including curbs,' gutters, sidewalks, etc. He felt
the Temple might have to put' in some trees or perhaps a street light or two.
Mr. Robbins stated the Temple had always operated on the concept that the
entire road would be constructed on William Lyon Company property.
Hearing no further` testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Tolstoy felt the development would be an exciting addition to the
City. He requested that a distinctive trail system be provided to allow'
people to go all the way from the Town Center to the Regional Mal I . He wanted
staff to consider such a trail when 'looking at proposed developments in the
area.
Chairman McNiel suggested the recommendation be forwarded to the Trails
Committee.
Mr. Coleman stated that a part of the 'proposed Amendment included the addition
of trail connection along Miller Avenue. He stated Lewis had been advised
of the need to connect trails out to Rochester Avenue within Terra Vista.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the quality of the project was very good. She felt
the plan met the intent of the Victoria Community Plan and would be a nice
enhancement to the City. She felt the easterly lake trail should be narrower
than 12 feet, and could still be wide enough to allow for maintenance and/or
security vehicles. She thought perhaps security vehicles could be of a
smaller type.
r. Buller suggested the minutes could reflect that further review of design
of the iitrail material and width' should be subject to review and approval by,
the City. He said a note could be added to the illustration on the street
intersection north of the lake stating that the 'intersection shall be designed
to soften and reduce the impact and amount of pavement through landscaping or
changes in pavement material .
Chairman McNiel wanted notation added regarding the potential trail line
around the west side of the lake
Commissioner Emerick requested that the plan be returned to the planning'
Commission before going forward to City Council if the Parks and Recreation
Committee recommended substantial` changes.
Mr. Coleman stated staff had been reviewing the plan with the Community
Services Director and his staff. They were trying to set up a special meeting
of the Parks and Recreation Committee in early February' before City Council
had their first reading.
Lion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Victoria Community Flan
Amendment NB CS. Motion carried by the following vote:
AWES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BL ESLEY -carried
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R. VARIANCE 87-11 - CUCAMONGA COUNTY WATER DISTRICT - A request to reduce the
mint um equi ra co
avege an spe se ac ,' an allow a -foot block
wall in the required setback , within the Utility District of the Foothill
Boulevard Specific plan, located at the southeast corner of San Bernardino
Road and klusman Avenue - AP'N -1 - 9 072 C , IC 11, and 19.
Brett Horner, Assistant planer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Cline, Cucamonga County Water District, stated that technically the 5-
foot setback presents a hardship to the District. He felt a reduction in the
landscaping would benefit the community because it would cut the necessary
water consumption. He felt the intended use of the property was exceptional
because there are no other public agencies with a combined use of office and
corporate ,yard within the City. He said the block wall would help to hide the
daily yard activity. He felt the Variance would not set a precedent for
future development within the area because there is no similar intended use.
He felt the Variance would allow the site blend in better with the older
properties in the area.
Lloyd Michael , General Manager of Cucamonga County Water District, stated
their headquarters and 'yard had been in the same location for more than 30
years, He said they needed to expand the location to meet the 'demands of the
basin. He felt the buildings and facilities were aesthetically pleasing. He
said they sent a . letter to each homeowner and business surrounding them and
they had received two letters of support. lie said no one had contacted them
to oppose the Variance.
Charles west, member of the Board of Directors of Cucamonga County Water
District, stated the block walls; on surrounding properties did not meet the
required setbacks because they have been there for a long time. He felt the
reduced setback would allow Cucamonga County Water` istrict facilities to
better fit in with surrounding properties. He also felt water conservation
was important.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick did not feel there were any compelling reasons to grant
the Variance. ;
Commissioner Toll ; y felt the 5-foot setback would help to spruce up the
neighborhood. He also thought the landscape area would be an excellent place
for the District to showcase attractive water conservation landscaping ;
concepts.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed the neighborhood needed improvement. She
encouraged the use of drought-resistant landscaping materials. She felt
public agencies should set an example by meeting City standards. She saw no
anon to grant the Variance.
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Motion. Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
denying Variance 7-11. Motion carried by the following vote.
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
DES. COMMISSIONERS.- NONE
AGENT: COMMISSIONERS: RL ESLEY -carried
S. ANNEXATION Hg D1 - NOTICE OF PREPARATION CE A DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT FOR THE ETIWIWOA NORTH PROjECT-IMEW-7- A request y thi Cityy o
anc o LUCamonjA o s u a easy i y o annexation and development of
approximately 6,000 dwelling units on approximately 5,640 acres of land
under multiple ownerships in the unincorporated area of San Bernardino
County. The project is generally bounded on the north by the National
Forest, on the south by the City of Rancho Cucamonga, on the east by the
City of Fontana, and on the nest ;by the extension of Milliken Avenue. A
Specific Plan will; be prepared for this project area. The public hearing
is being conducted for the purpose' of defining the scope of the
Environmental Impact Report,
Mike Bratt, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Fred Ileeaux, 11016 ha Strut, Rancho Cucamonga, was concerned that the base
Environmental impact Repot EIR s completed a long time ago and would not
be adequate o address additional annexation. He felt the EIR` should address
the changes which have occurred dining the past 5 years. He felt the
annexation would have a great impact on sewer and water facilities and
requested that sewers be mandated. He felt the annexation encroached on the
territory of indigenous wildlife. He requested that 'drainage, emergency
facilities, and school district impact be considered.' He wanted density to be
limited to 4-8 dwelling units per acre.
Chairman McNiel stated the area would be developed under County control if the
City did not annex. He felt annexation would allow the City to have' more
control over the development. stated the purpose of the hearing was to
establish parameters for the EIR.
Joe Di Iorio, President of Caryn Company, stated that when the City first drew
up its boundaries prior to incorporation, it was envisioned that City
boundaries would go north to the national pare However, 'City boundaries were
cut back because of Fire District concerns. He stated the base E+IR was not
one that went back to the ity 's General Plan, but rather a series of EIRs
starting from the Foothill Community Plan and including all the various EIRs
required by the City and County for projects since then. A number of items
had been identified as needing updating, and those items would be updated. He
said septic tanks were not being planned for the area. indicated the
developers were sensitive to the desire for open space going up toward the
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foothills, and therefore approximatelyhalf f of the area would be set aside as
open space, including CS acres in Day Canyon alone. He said the drainage
plan is a continuation of the Day/Etiwanda/San Sevaine system. He stated the
eastern part of the City has better drainage than the western; portion. He
said the EIR would address emergency facilities and the Etiwanda School
District would not be impacted. He felt the proposed commercial density was
sup ortable. He said residential densities are quite low and match the
Etiwanda Specific Elan, averaging 1.59 units per acre gross:
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated he would like the EIR to address wind impacts,
with regard to lot orientation, building footprint configurations, and
windbreaks to mitigate windy conditions in the area.
Commissioner Emerick felt EMS should be used as design tools prior to
designing, instead of merely being used to support projects alma
dy
designed. He wanted the EIR to address critical open space areas.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the EIR elements listing was comprehensive with the
additions suggested.
Chairman McNiel stated the annexation was an 'ambitious undertaking on the part
of the development consortium, the City,; and the Planning Commission.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that wind impacts should b
added to the proposed listing of items to be addressed in the EIR.
COLD BUSINESS
U. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88 87 UTMAN-MACDONALD & PARTNERS � The development of
a os cry square o0 o ce u' 'n on }D8' acres of land in
the Haven Avenuererlay districtSubar"ea C ' , 1 aced` at the northeast
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Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, 'presented the staff report and suggested
adding standard, conditions.
Commissioner Chitiea asked to see the old and new elevations.
e Planning Commission looked at both sets of elevations.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Clark Davis of Gilbert Aja & Associates, project architect, stated they had
been through Design Review three times. He presented a photograph of their
corporate headquarters in Irvine and stated the proposed building would be
similar. He felt the project would enhance the Haven streetscape.
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Dan Mc David, Gilbert Aja, stated the building, has more glazing than their
corporate headquarters. He said they increased the amount of glass on the
Acacia and Haven corner to relate closer to the existing project to the south.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the additional enhancement previously requested at
the entry way was " still missing. She felt the building imparted a feeling of
heaviness because of the concrete at the top.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that in discussing the screen for the roof;
equipment, an option had been discussed to extend the entry way glass above
the parapet.
Commissioner Chitiea stated increased glass banding was also discussed.
Mr.' Buller indicated the applicant had chosen not to add hose concepts.
Mr. Davis stated the roof screen was set back from the edge of the building.
e stated the roof screen would not be seen close up. He said the entry'
element was a triangular projection and would not give a feeling of
heaviness. He stated each corner would have a feature.. said the corner on
Acacia was enhanced with expanded' glass and a column feature.
Chairman McNiel stated that because of the s l l sire of the building and the
exposure;, he felt the building was acceptable.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the eroded edge concept was not new. She said
that even though the roof screening would not be seen from the entry, it would
be 'seen from adjacent projects and the street. She felt the main entrance had
no 'focal point but created a parking lot feeling. She felt the building would
be prominent because of its location and she wanted the building to have
significance.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt comfortable with the building.
Commissioner Chitiea felt a more significant entry could be created by pulling
the glass up to the parapet.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the band of concrete at the top of the building
showed strength and he liked' it.
Mr. Davis felt the concrete band gave continuity to the building and moving
the glass up would fragment the design;.
There were no further public comments.
Chairman McNiel agreed with Commissioner Chitiea that increasing the amount of
glass at the entry way would' better pronounce the entry.
Commissioner Emerick agreed with enlarging the glass area.
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Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Development Review 8- 7, with a modification to raise the
triangular glass entry element to the top of the parapet and add the standard
conditions. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: C ISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY -carried
V. , UNIFORM SIGN PROGRAM FOR THOMAS WINERY PLAZA - OAS INVESTORS
Scott Murphy , Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Niel did not like the generic' lettering because the center s
unique, in that the majority of the buildings were all different.
Commissioner Chitiea felt a large plaza logo was ' not necessary on every
building.
Chairman McNiel did not mind 24" logos on the buildings.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt small logos were acceptable but he did not like the
letters "A" . 118110 HCH, etc. on each 'building.
Commissioner 'Chitiea felt putting the logo on each side of the tower would
make it look too much like clock' faces. She felt the logo would look better
on only two sides and lettering should be used on the other two sides.
Chairman Niel invited public comment.
Rudy Stroink, OAS Inves rs, stated the lettering "A" , "B"s ,ACII, etc. were
being used for building identification on the directory and for emergency
agencies. He suggested removing the letters and instead placing the building
addresses on ;the end of each building. He said they were in agreement with
staf's recommendation to remove the monument sign at San Bernardino Road and
place it with the project logo on the rock wall at the driveway entrance.
On the still building he proposed using lettering reading "Thomas Winery" with
"City of Rancho Cucamonga" or "Rancho Cucamonga" beneath. He said this would
be presented the Historic Preservation servation o ission. He wanted the major
Hants to have a choice of six colors instead of the City-proposed th ree. He
supported Souplan `lion's design of their logo.
Bob Garrett, Director of Marketing for Souplantation, stated, they wanted to
use green channel letters instead of white. He wanted to be sure their name
would appear on both sides of the one monument sigh. He said they would`
prefer to have their name on the monument sign on Foothill instead of the one
on 'Vineyard. He wanted to keep the logo vertical on the west elevation>
because their corporate logo is generally shown in all advertising with the
logo below the name.
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Brad Buller,; City Planner, requested that if the Planning Commission should
approve the wider variation of sign colors, it would be important to state the
reasons. He pointed out that some recent centers have been limited to a
maximum of one or two colors. He stated if the decision was, not specifically
addressed to this center; i .e., its historical significance or architectural
style, it would be difficult to restrict the number of colors on future'
centers.
Commissioner Tolstoy was inclined to reduce the number of colors because he
felt the signs should not be garish. He felt signs should be subdued.
Mr. Murphy stated that the signs were smaller than in many other centers.
Chairman McNiel stated that.; the whole center would not be visible from either
Foothill or Vineyard, while most icenters have total exposure from the streets.
Commissioner E rick stated the buildings reminded him of cannery row with
each building having different architecture. Wherefore, he felt that was a'
reason for allowing additional colors.'
Mr troink suggested using white for the winery and thereby limiting the'
fors to only three.
Therewere no further public comments.
The consensus of the Commission was that three colors would be acceptable
because of the difference in architecture and the lack of total visibility
from the street.
Chairman McNiel felt that the Soupla'ntation sign of 4-1/2 feet high on the
western elevation was too large and took up, too much of the building side.
Commissioner Emerick felt the sign should be reduced by one-third, to a'
maximum of 36 inches high.
The Planning Commission reached a consensus to reduce the Souplantation sign
height to a maximum of 36 inches.
The Commission discussed the monument signs and reached a' consensus that they
were satisfactory. They agreed that "A", "B" , a "C" numbering should be
replaced by building street addresses.
Chairman McNiel suggested painting "Thomas Winery" and "Rancho Cucamonga" on
two sides of the 'still building and "using the logo on the other two sides.
The Planning Commission reached a consensus to forward that suggestion to the
Historic Preservation Commission.
Mr.' Buller indicated than the item would be returned to the Planning
Commission only if the Historic Preservations Commission had a different
recommendation.
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DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
W. TERRA VISTA TREE MASTER PLAN _ Presentation of street trees for Terra
Ts
Laura gonaccorsi , Landscape Designer, presented the staff report along with a
booklet depicting the revised designated street trees.
Commissioner Emerick asked about the ability of the trees to withstand wind.
s. Ronaccori responded that staff had scrutinized the trees for wind
resistance.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if staking standards had been changed.
s. Ronacorsi indicated that staking standards now called for more stakes,
stronger ties, and arbor guards.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if some areas of Terra 'Vista going to be
retrof itted.
Chairman nNi 1 invited public comm
ent.
Tom Dellaquiia, landscape architect for Luis Homes, stated they had
approached the City with a proposal` to upgrade the landscaping, and had
budgeted $100,0 . They felt the eucalyptus was a poor* choice for residential
areas because of tendencies to be messy, easily wind-damaged, and surface
root.
There were no further public comments.
Ms. Ronaccorsi indicated that with the City-required 15-gallon minimum size
trees, eucalyptus trees do not establish too well .
Chairman McNiel felt the City should perhaps look at minimum tree size
standards.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated smaller container trees grow better and faster
than the 5-gallon` sizes.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the City was currently using 5-gallon
replacement trees.
e consensus' of the Planning Commission was that the Terra Vista Tree Master
Plan was a good concept.
X. CARYN (VINTAGE HIGHLANDS) FENCING - Discussion of possible amendment
requl re enc ng o cu -' a-sac streets from the paeo trail system.
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Dan Coleman, Senior Planner', presented the staff report and showed a video
depicting Mammoth Peak Court and another typical paseb.
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Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
The following residents spoke in favor of allowing Mammoth Peak Court to
gain fenced off from the paseo*
Ron Herman, 11577 Mammoth Peals Court, Rancho Cucamonga,
Ed Robinson, 11595 Mammoth Peak Court, Rancho Cucamonga
Con Baer, 1157 Mammoth Peak Court, Rancho Cucamonga
The residents felt there were special circumstances regarding the paseo
connection at Mammoth Peak Court. They felt Mammoth Peak Court was adjacent
to n isolated, wild area, and removing the fence would allow coyotes enter
their street. They felt Banyan was an ideal place for burglars to
congregate. They 'stated the paseo behind Mammoth Peak Court would be like a
boxed-in canyon because there was a drop of approximately 10 feet from one of
the lots down to the paseo, which would cause a safety hazard* They indicated
the paseo acted as a catch basin during rains, and a child might drown. They
were concerned that a wind tunnel effect might be created by removing the
fence. They felt that because the Caryn development did. not have any parks,
the intent of the paseo system s compromised. They stated that when
residents bought their 'homes they were not told about the paseo concept by the
builder and they assumed that they lived on a cul -de-sac street, which would
have only one access.
Chairman McNiel stated the area would not be isolated once the Caryn '
annexation to the north was complete.
e' residents stated they had called police several times over the summer
because of cars parked on Banyan. They felt the situation as it currently
exists was unsafe.'
Chairman McNiel stated he had spoken to John Fisher, Department of Fish &
Game, 1 ) 90- 1 , who stated a fence would need to exceed six feet in
height and be one foot into the ground in order to stop coyotes.s. stated
r. Fisher said the only way to ! effectively reduce coyote intrusion s for
residents to manage the area by keeping small animals inside, not allowing dog '
food sit out, and controlling trash:.
Commissioner issioner Tols ' y asked what would happen if the trail was blocked off at
Banyan.
Mr. ; Coleman stated the Community Trail on Banyan would then be blocked off
from the residents to the south.
Commissioner Emerick felt future residents of Whitney Court would want to use
the; paced to reach friends on Mammoth Peak Court.
Chairman Niel stated the paseo concept was to provide for mini-parks in
residential areas and the Planning Commission felt strongly that the concept!
was a good one. In regard to securing the cul-de-sac to allow children to
play in the cul -de-sac, he stated the City should not be legislating child
management by blocking off access to peseos.
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on Wednesday, February 1.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
1:40 A.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to a field trip of the North
Etiwanda Sphere beginning at 11:00 A.M. on Sunday, January 29, 1989.
Respectfully submitted,
A��d ����
Bra Buller
Sec re to ry
Planning Commission Minutes -25- January 25, 1989
CITY OF C CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
, a nua ry 23, I3'8
NORTHETIWANDA PLAN WORKSHOP
Chairman McNiel called the adjourned January 23, 1989 meeting of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at S* C p.m. in the office of
Jack Lam, Assistant City Manager, 94 Base Line Road, Suite C, Rancho
Cucamonga. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the preliminary Etiwand4
North Specific Plan.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, tarry iei , Peter Tolstoy
STAFF PRESENT: Larry Henderson,, Senior Planner; Betty Miller, Assistant
Civil Engineer; Karen Emery-McGuire, Associate Perk
Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Dan Coleman,
Senior Planner; Brad Buller, City; Planner; Jeff Gravel ,
Assistant Planner, doe Schultz, Community Services
Manager; Miki Bratt, Associate Planner; Bill Silva, Deputy
City Engineer
Brad Buller, City Planner, made a brief introduction ;and asked everybody to
introduce them elves.
iki Bratt, Associate Planner, made a short presentation ov rvie ing the
content of the Specific Plan.` Ms. Bratt continued with an update of project
status using a time line chart.
Mr. Buller suggested the Planning Commission may wish to hold a separate
meeting to discuss the issues of the Specific Plan. The Commissioners agreed.
Commissioner Emerick, commented that there should be plenty of time view
the issue of parks and open space, especially the area of Upper Day Creek
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Canyon
Karen Emery,, Associate Park Planner, said the Parks Commission could include
the Etiwanda North project on their agenda.
r. Buller commented that the schedule is very aggressive.
Chairman McNiel expressed his concern about the tightness of the time line.-
Mr. Buller replied the schedule was tight but achievable.
Joe Dilorio, President of the Caryn Company, id that the schedule was
feasible and could 'be kept. He said that he had to keep a schedule with
University of Californian which did not leave him any extra time when
processing.
i Iorio indicated that the Coussoulis property was in the process of
changing hands of ownership.
Kevin' Manning, Landmark Land Company, future owner of the Coussoul'is property,
indicated he is interested in the Etiwanda North project and will not process
in the County.
Jess Harris, .and/Plan Design Group, said they want the University Crest
project EIR to follow its natural course of review. However, they will hold
p the process of the tentative map.
r. Dilorio and Mr. Harris began to outline the process of putting the
Specific Plan together, They stated the document would outline how the plan
was formulated and would demonstrate consistencies with the City`s General
Plan. Also, they indicated an EIR would be prepared.
Commissioner Tolstoy' indicated than: there should be a section in the plan that
describes, in detail , the different types of architecture.
Mr Harris replied, that not only would the architecture be detailed, out also
the themes and entries of the neighborhoods.
Harris suggested that portions of the ttiwranda Specific Plan may have to
be amended to conform with the concepts of the new plan. He`'continued with an
overview of the plan proceeding with the different sections.
Dan Coleman, Senfor ;Planner, asked when the formal plan would be submitted.
r. Harris indicated February 3rd. '
r. Harris continued with what would be discussed using the exhibits which
just arrived from his staff, including the open space concept, architectural
types, and neighborhood themes.
Pete Dangerman, open space consultant, also with the University of California,
presented the Open Space concept in 5 aspects: normal park; golf
course; ) riding` and hiking trails; 4) the natural landscape; and ( )
streetscapes, paseos, right-of-ways. He discusser how the five aspects would
interrelate with one another and with other elements. Also, he indicated that
they were meeting with e Utility companies and discussing the use of utility
right-of-ways.
Commissioner Chitiea said there is a need for a public equestrian center.
r* McNiel asked why the Golf Course would not be feasible?
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. Dilorio replied he thought the Department of Fish and Game right have a
problem with a Golf Coarse®
Commissioner Tolstour and Commissioner Emerick both; commented on how important
it is to preserve the natural habitat of some of the delicate canyons.
Dilorid suggested that the Commissioners break rap into subcommittees to
review specific elements of the plan .
Pr. McNiel agreed with the suggestion.
i brio began the presentation on community design. He talked about the
different neighborhoods and their identifying el ents, indicating their
locations on the colored reaps. Also, he spoke of the types of architecture
which would be contained in each of the neighborhoods.
Commissioner Blakesley asked what type of landscaping would be in the median
strips, and asked if there would be palm 'trees the full length of 24th Street.
Harris answered with a brief overview of the type landscaping they are
considering.
8ilorio, continued discussing types of architecture which are being
planned in the project area. He said six types were to be mixed throughout
the project. The different types of architecture which are the most closely
related would be located in particular neighborhoods, therefore, creating a
common theme in each of th
Commissioner Tolstoy had concerns about grading' and property management,
indicating these should be taken into careful consideration
. Buller concluded the workshop, recommending that there be a minimum of
three subcommittee groups. He confirmed that the next workshop would be on
February 2, 1989 at 4.30 p.m. He said the Commission would discuss the design
concepts of the plan at that workshop.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
A
Arad 8u l ers
Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
January 19, 198,9
TERRA VISTA TOWN CENTER WORKSHOP
Chairman McNiel called the adjourned meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 11-00 p.m. at the Rancho± Cucamonga
Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Peter Tolstoy, Larry McNiel
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City
Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner
Mike Moorman, project architect for Target Stores, presented the elevations
and construction details for Target.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that the Commission should review the original
renderings for Target and their expectations for Target. She stated that it
was her expectation that Target, as the first building in the center and
because of its location, should be the crowning jewel oft Town Center. She
further listed the following design elements that should be incorporated into
Target's design:
- Accent vussoir around the main entry arch
- Glass and awnings in the cut-outs flanking entry arch
- Round columns at in entry and garden center entry
- Vines climbing on arbor columns
- Full height glass instead of tile underneath main entry arch
Vice Chairman Chitiea also stated her objection to the use of the within
blind arches.
Commissioners Tolstoy and erick agreed that the Target design as presented
by Mr. Moorman was inconsistent with the initial conceptual renderings
presented by Architect Pacifica and the Commission's expectations.
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. Moorman explained that the taller void arches flanking the main entry arch
were changed because of mezzanine offices. A similar: appearance could be
created using colored hard surface. He also stated that awnings were
unacceptable to Target because of bad experience.
Brad Buller suggested spandrel glass and awnings in the blind arches
consistent with original artist's rendering.
There was consensus of the Commission to follow Mr. Buller"s suggestion and
continue wainscot treatment into these areas.
Mr. Moorman reviewed possible options which included full height the (no
wainscot) or the introduction of planters in the blind arch areas flanking the
main entry arch.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea repeated her desire to see a vussoir treatment around
in entry arch and glass move entry doors.
There was discussion of the Commission which resulted in a consensus for the
following revisions to the Target building.-
1. Eliminate the over main entry doors. The Commission's preference
was glass or some other quality material in this area.
. provide "pleated" or "telescoping`" effect around the main arch.'
. Provide accent vussoir around main arch.
. Provide round columns flanking main entry arch. half-round or three-
quarter round' columns were acceptable.
. Revise blind arch cut-outs to include wainscot and a quality stone,
spandrel' glass or some other quality material above. The Commission
did find the acceptable.
. If grillwork is still contemplated at the main entry arch, it needs
to reflect the level of' details presented in the Architect Pacifica"s
concept drawings. The Commission determined that the grillwork was
not necessary' and could' be eliminated.
. Tile treatment within cut-out areas on southwest corner of building
should match blind arches flanking main entry arch.
8. Garden center entry needs to be redesigned to be more reflective o
the in entry details to be approved.
g. Plant climbing vines on arbor.
The Commission recommended that the architect revise the elevations as
discussed and return for approval to the Commission.
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ADJOURNMENT
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The meeting adjourned at 1:3U a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Arad Bu er
Sec re to ry
Planning Commission Minutes - 3 January 19, 1989
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
January 11, 1989
Vice-Chairman Chitiea called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Vice-Chairman Chitiea then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Peter Tolstoy, Larry McNiel
(arrived at 7:45 P.M. )
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner;
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson;
Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner;
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner; Russ Maguire, City
Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez,
Secretary; Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer-,' Joe Stofa,
Associate Civil Engineer; Chris Westman, Assistant
Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner announced that Dan, Coleman, Senior Planner, was
Employee of the Month for January.
Mr. Buller announced that a Sign Workshop would be held on January 30 from
7:00 to 9:00 P.M. at Lyons Center. He stated the workshop was being presented
by the Chamber of Commerce and the City jointly and that this was to be the
first of a series of workshops on signs.
Mr. Buller announced that this evening's meeting should adjourn to a workshop
at 5:00 P.M., Monday, January 23 on the Etiwanda North Specific Plan.
Mr. Buller requested that the Commissioners schedule a workshop to prepare the
1989 - 1991 work program in preparation for the budget.
Mr. Buller announced that staff had received letters from the applicants
requesting continuance on Items G and J.
Mr. Buller announced that staff was recommending continuance on Item N for two
weeks and the applicant had consented to the continuance.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blak sley, carried with Chitiea
abstaining, to approve the minutes of December 28, 1988.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. SENIOR HOUSING OVERLAY DISTRICT GUIDELINES - CITY OF RANCHO CU ON A -
Staffrequest 'to a n e main nance ' sec un e eguy a I nes r the
purpose of consistency.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88- 2 - CARNEY-THEODOROU -
e eve dp n an in a rya a Ong td a ing , square ee on
1.55: acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea 1:4) of the
Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on the east side of Hyssop Drive
and north of 4th Street - APN 229- J1-02.
C. ' DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 13444 - PULTE HOME CORPORATION; - The Design Review
of buildiifj`s_4n_d___ etailed site pan for 120 Tots-_within a previously '
approved subdivision of 156 lots on 29.4 acresof land within the Low
Density Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) of the Victoria
Planned Community, located at the southwest corner of Victoria Park Lane
and Kenyon Way - APN: 227-551-1 thru 32, 227-551-1 thru 4 and 61 thru 76,
and 27-511 thru 58.
D. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 122 - CRISTI O - A custom lot
resfidentia su Avon o lots on approximate y acres of land in
the Very Love Residential District (less than 2 dwellingunits per acre),
located on the east side of Haven Avenue north of the Hillside Drainage '
Channel -' APN. 201-121-24.
E. SAPPHIRE TRAIL
Motion. Moved by Blakley° seconded by Emerick, carried to approve Items A
through E of the Consent Calendar;.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 14055 - AV ESS The
eve; op n o ' town base uni s on acres o ann t e Medium
Density Residential > District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) , located north
of Arrow Highway and east of Baker Avenue - APN: 207-201-32 and 12.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that Item G would be removed from tonight's
agenda, based on staff's recommendation, pending completion of the
application.
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I
J. ENVIE110NMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-48 EGGHEAD
rye 11e
1
nor
�' asroor� an Ice 1n a
ease spaace of 1,000 squarea ell wiCthin an existing multi-tenant
industrial park on 4.01 acres of land in the Haven Avenue Overlay
District, located at 9170-9190 Haven Avenue -- APN: 09- 6 -'1 .
OLD BUSINESS
N. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-3 - UTMAN-MACDONALD $ PARTNERS - The development of
a wo-s r^y square o0 o ice a tng on .09 acres of land in
the Haven Avenue Overlay °District Subarea o , located at the northeast
or
of Haveh Avenue and Acacia Street - APN: 09-401-0I. (Continued
from December 14, 1g88. )
Motion, Moved by Blakesley, seconded by EmericE, continue Environmental
Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 88- and Development Review 88-3 to
January 25, 1989. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHIT EA, CMERICK, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: BONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NIEL -carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP11934 - L. A. CH CO,
su �vs ono acres o ann parse �n t e
e um en ` ty Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre),
located on the east side of Archibald Avenue, approximately 150 feet south
of Lemon Avenue - APN: 201- S '-0 . (Continued from December 14, 188.
Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report and recommended deletion of Special Condition .a., which
o the City for cost of strut improvements on Archibald ufronting Parcels reimbursementired 1
and 2.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the pudic nearing.
Albert Dayton, Pfeiler & Associates Engineering, stated they were happy with
the conditions as stated. He requested reimbursement for one-half the cost
for undergrounding utilities ' along Archibald Avenue when properties were
developed on the opposite side of the street.
Lawrence Oaief ky, 6393 Jadeite Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, asked for
verification that project density would be no more than 4-8 dwelling units per
acre.
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Otto Kruti 1 Deputy City Planner, stated a General Plan Amendment was in
process and scheduled to be heard at the January;' 25, 1989, Planning Commission
Meeting. He stated the Amendment contained a; series of land use changes,
including lowering density for this area.
Connie Corcoran, 9859 Cypress Court, Rancho Cucamonga, asked if the General
Plan Amendment would change this project.
r. Stofa responded that Parcel 2 would become part of Tentative Tract 141 ,
currently in the review process. He stated the developer was showing 11 lots
on 2.21 acres.
Ids. Corcoran asked if the lots were for single detached family homes.
Mr. Stofa confirmed they were.
Ms. Corcoran asked if she could be notified of any future action on the
project.
Brad Buller, ,City Planner, responded that if her property was within 300 feet
of the project she would automatically be notified of any future public
hearings.
Hewing no further testimony`, the; public hearing was dosed.
Motion: Moved by Blakesle , seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11934, with
deletion of requirement to reimburse City for Archibald street improvements
fronting Parcels 1 and 2. Motion carried by the following vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, TDLSTQY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS.- NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13930 - WINBR DK DEVELOPMENT
resi i6tial s6bdivision o sing a family lots on acres o
land in the Very Lowy Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per;
acre) , located on the east side of Hellman Avenue at Wilson Avenue -
AP : 106 -071-1 and. 13.
Chris Westman, AssistantPlanner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if there was enough right-of-way available for
Wilson street and the parkway to continue to Amethyst.
Mr, Westman responded 20 feet would be available for most of the trail .
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Rust Maguire, City Engineer, stated that reduced standards would be required
in one spin where the right-of-way jogged.
Mr. Westman stated that the width went down to 12 feet at that point.
Rill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated d t a separate acquisition would be
required to widen the trail to 20 feet,
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if it could ' realistically be done.
Mr. Silva responded that it could physically be done.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Jim Carlile, Winbrook Development, 99 North San Antonio, 00, 'Upland, stated
he was available to answer questions.
Joe Quinn, 2031 Praedst, Riverside, stated ' he would be developing the houses
and he felt the revised elevations they had submitted were compatible with the
desires of the Technical and Design Review Committees.
Elizabeth Gun;, 5678 Amethyst, Rancho Cucamonga, asked if a block wale would be
constructed.
garrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the plans did not currently cl,1
for a block wall , but the final design was not'-comple , and the City would
look at the need for a wall .
s. Gun stated that the City had assured her last year that here was a 95
chance that a block wall would be put up. She stated her bedroom would be
right up against the project.
Hearing no further testimony, the' public hearing was closed.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea expressed appreciation for the developer's willingness
to work with the Trails and Design Review Committees.
r. Hanson suggested adding a provision to allow the Developer to requesti
reimbursement from future development for one-half the coat of undergrounding
electrical on Hellman Avenue.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea reopened the public hearing to ask if the applicant was
agreeable to the changed conditions.
r. Carlile stated the conditions were acceptable.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolutions'
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13930 and Design Review
for Tentative Tract 13930, with modification to allow the Developer to request
reimbursement from future development for one-half the coat of undergrounding
electrical on Hellman Avenue`, Motion carried by the following vote:
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AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, T LST Y
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL, MAP 12057 - WESTERN STATES subdivision of 1.81acres of landIn o Pare or condominium purposes
in the Industrial Specific Plan (Subarea 3), located at the northwest
corner of Peron Boulevard and Helms Avenue - APN. 209431-57.
garrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Rance Cleus, Lee & Associates, Mated he was representing Western States
Development and was available to answer questions.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by glakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 12057. Motion
carried by, the following vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHIT , EMERICK, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT.- COMMISSIONERS: NIEL -carried
K. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-05 - CROSS AND, CROWN LUTHERAN
I host amend e site pan ah uj ing a ova �bns on a
proposed 6,200 squarefoot sanctuary on acre s of land in the Very Low
Residential District (less than 2 units per acre) of the Etiwanda Specific
Plan, +located at 6723 Etiwanda Avenue - APN; 7-061-0 .
Tom Orahn, Assistant: Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
William Runyan, Runyan Engineering, project designer, concurred with Design
Review recommendations.
Commissioner Chitiea asked what was being proposed to be placed in the bell
wer.
Mr. Runyan stated that originally they had planned to leave the tower vacant
Until the church could afford the bolls,' however, now they intended to install
simulated bells,.
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Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked what kind of material would be used.
Mr. Runyan stated they would be working with studios and he thought they might
be made of fiberglas with a plaster weight to give mass.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked what type of roof material was being used and if
the roof structure was capable of supporting tile.
Mr. Grahn stated the approved material was Cal-Shake and it had been approved
by Design Review.
Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to adapt the Resolution
approving Modification to Conditional Use Permit 8 -05. Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, TDLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE`
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NIL -carried
Chairman McNiel joined the meeting.
Brad Buller, City Planner suggested skipping to Item M because the applicant
for Item L was not present and would.. be ,joining the meeting shortly.
M. VARIANCE 88-25 - KEN RUBY CONSTRUCTION COMP A request to +allow on-
si to lightTiFg sta ar excee a 15 f6otheight requirement for a
proposed shopping center in the Community Commercial District, located at
the southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Ramona Avenue - AP : 208-
30 - , 15, and.. 1 .
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing
Dennis Dickerson, Ken Ruby Construction, 11845 Nest Olympic 'Boulevard, Los
Angeles, stated that when motorists enter the shopping enter from Foothill
they would receive a glare from 15-toot light fixtures. He stated their
lighting engineers recommended 25 feet as the optimum, so he was requesting 20
feet as a compromise.
George Guidera, 7363 Garnet, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had participated in
the Foothill Corridor Study. He stated the property owners knew when they
bought the lot that it was recessed and they should accept that. He stated he
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had questioned the candlepower maximum in the City Code and was told that the
Sheriff's department determines if lights are bright enough. He asked the
Commissioners to take into account that the project backed up to a residential
area and that higher light standards might effect adjacent homes. he felt the
City lighting ordinance was too vague and should address candlepower:
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner
ssioner Blakesley stated he could' understand why applicants don't f want to
put in extra' fixtures, but he felt the 1 -foot height would work if care was
taken with placement of standards and landscaping. He felt the Commission
needed to be sensitive to light pollution and agreed that it would be good to
review the light standards and perhaps look at candlepower'.
Commissioner Tolsoy agreed- that 15 feet was the preferred height: and that
fixtures could then be kept under the tree canopy.
Commissioner 'glakesley felt the applicant had the burden of proof to support a'
variance, and he did not feel the proper findings could be made to support the
variance.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed.
Motion: Moved by Tol;stoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
denying Variance 88- 6. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA,; C ICK, MCNIFL, TaL TOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS. NONE' -carried
L. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 - - OAS INVESTOR - A request`
to delete builai5jwitfiifi i previous y ap,provia s upping center
(Thomas Winery) , located at the northeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and
Vineyard Avenue - APN: 08- 1-10 and 11.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tol stoy asked if design ' changes in the planter and tree wells'
would be brought back before the Planning Commission.
ra Murphy responded that they could be.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if any consideration had been given to redesigning
the parking or circulation layouts when it was decided to delete the
building. She thought perhaps a better flow and more landscaping could be
achieved.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Rudy Stroink, CAS Investors, 2081 Business Center Drive, 90, Irvine, project
manager, stated there would only be one user for the winery building; - a'
restaurant. He said the building would not have split uses of restaurant and
retail space'. He said they had .studied the parking area and felt the proposed
layout was the best they could achieve.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what was planned for the still building.
Mr. Stroink stated they had not located a tenant as yet, but felt perhaps a
small flower shop might work well . He said the building still had the
distillery equipment nt inside and they hoped to >keep the equipment as part of
the decor of the building.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tols;toy felt deleting building J would be beneficial to the
project, but he wanted the project returned to Design Review to consider
additional enhanced paving and landscaping because of the increased parking
area.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred that additional parking would be beneficial and
that enhanced paving might add to the project.
Commissioner Tolst y felt that the parking situation was becoming critical at
many centers in the City. He felt it might be a good idea to initiate a work
study program to look at upgrading City parking requirements.
Commissioner Emerick asked if bake racks were provided 7n the center and if
not, could they be added.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to ask if the applicant had
considered bike racks.
Nor. Stroink stated bike racks were already provided in a different phase of
the project and they could be added to this phase as well .
Commissioner 'Tolstoy felt attention should be paid to pedestrian circulation
around the distillery and winery buildings.';
r. Stroink stated that the restaurant was considering ;using the back area
near the still for outside seating.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was 'closed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution;
approving Modification to Conditional Use permit 8 - 6 with a modification to
turn to Design 'Review for approval of detailed site and landscape plans.
Motion carried by the following vote :
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v
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
NEW BUSINESS
O, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW B- 9 - CASTILLO COMPANY,
development--ofan o -ic u n in , square eet
on Z.J4 acres of land in the industrial Park District (Subarea ) ,
located at the southeast corner of Milliken and Sth Street - APN 9-341-
10.
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea asked to see the color board.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if planters were enhanced in the drive-through
area.
r. Hayed responded that they had been:.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
David Parker, The Castillo Company, stated he had not received the staff
port.
Mr. Hayes provided him with a copy of the staff report.
Hearing no further; testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the color was too intense.
Brae! Buller, City. Planner, stated a full palette had been approved for the
project and this color was one of the approved colors..
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the color was consistent with the surrounding
buildings.
Mr. Hayes responded that the buildings to the north were cream and teal .
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the color could be toned down.
Chairman 'McNiel reopened the public hearing,
Mr. Parker sated the color was approved in the Bixby Business Park Master
Plan.
Commissioner Chitiea suggested something in the same range, but more muted.
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M
r. Parker thought they dad been trying match a building in Bixby park. He
felt the applicant might be willing to change.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Lion. Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review -29 with a
modification to require sign Review approval of a revised color board prior
to the issuance of building permits. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RLAKESLEY, CHITI A, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TCL`STpY
HOES. COMMISSIONERS: HE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
ETIWANDA NORTH ANNEXATION - Staff requests direction on revision of the
work program.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the Planning Commission had held
several workshops; regarding the Etiwanda north area and the proposed
annexation by a consortium of property owners, led by doe Di brio. He
indicated a letter had been sent to doe CiIorio with an annexation time
schedule, proposing annexation within a month ; period. Because the
accelerated schedule would take concerted effort on the part of staff, a
meeting had been held with all departments to ascertain if the schedule could
be met. He said the City had entered into the schedule outlined with the
understanding that the developer would not proceed ahead with project reviews
through the County. He said it would take the City additional time to process
County projects, such as the University Crest project, along with processing
under the City. He felt the Planning Commission had shown good faith by
meeting with the developer for several workshops. He requested feedback
regarding the Planning Commission's position on this matter. He asked if they
supported this effort to annex and the time and effort it would require over
the next b months ' to accomplish ithis. He suggested the 'Planning Commission
might want to consider several assumptions before moving ahead with the
project: (1) ` Have the developer agree to not process projects 'simultaneously
with the County (including the University Crest project) and (2) Have the
developer agree to conduct a traffic study using the; City i Engineer's traffic
modeling concept, or have the developer bring his proposed study method before
the Planning Commission and have the Commission decide which method would be '1
appropriate.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked how the developer wanted to conduct the traffic
stu
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, responded that the City wanted to use
computer modeling techniques in order to project volumes and patterns. The
City Council had just approved an outside consultant to conduct such a study
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on a City-wide basis, but that would take fro'm 4 6 months. Mr. Di brio
proposed doing the study by manual distribution and the City felt the area was
so large that manual distribution would not take into account the impact on
the surrounding areas or answer such questions' as ghat would happen if the
Foothill Freeway is not built.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the impact on the entire City had to be considered
and the computer modeling concept should be required.
The consensus of the Commission was that the computer modeling concept would
be necessary.:
Mr. Buller stated that the time schedule only called for one Planning
Commission hearing. However, for Specific Plans for other areas, multiple
meetings had been held. He asked how the Commissioners wanted the components
to the Specific Plan presented.
Chairman McNiel stated in the past there had been community meetings,
information gathered, and rough drafts considered before the final plan was
adopted.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that community meetings were necessary to properly
accomplish the annexation
_
Commissioner Chitiea felt more pudic input would lead to a better project.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that when the Planning Division work program was
devised, this project was not envisioned, an he felt it was imporant to look
at other; program items to see ghat needed to be deleted.
1t was the consensus of the Commission that they supported the annexation.
Commissioner Emerick did not want to see the City compromise substance for
speed, He felt it was important to identify the open space. He wondered i f
r. DiIorio would process under the County if an impasse on concerns` was
ached.
Chairman McNiel felt that the longer the process of annexation took, the fewer
opportunities the City would have because more projects would be processed
through the County;.
Commissioner Chitiea did not want to rush too much because the end product
would be inferior. She had concerns about the trail system. She felt if the
developer was not willing to cooperate on such items as open space, trails,
the traffic study, etc. there was no point in rushing to annex the area.
Chairman McNiel stated that Mr. Ci brio had made a statement that he was
making are effort to bring the consortium together in order to annex the whole
area, but in fact it appears he will be piecemealing the project ;for those
properties he controls. He questioned whether the consortium was aware of how
a piecemeal approach can affect the timing and success of the annexations He
felt nothing was to be gained by delaying the process_.
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Commissioner Blakesley agreed with Chairman McNiel regarding a concern with
piecemealing `and stressed that it appears the timing is right for considering
annexation.
Chairman McNiel stated than he heard that the Commissioners were in favor of
the annexation schedule as discussed, with stipulations that projects not be
processed through the County simultaneously by the consortiums or any
individual property owner, and that the C'ity's traffic modeling concept be
followed.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked at ghat point a feasibility study would be done for
the City's review.
r. Henderson stated one was being done as part of the Environmental impact
Report being prepared by the consortium's consultant. He said a lot of the
environmental documents were initiated last year under the County auspices for
the university Caryn project.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the City could accept the consultants already
selected.
Mr. Henderson stated that City Council would have to approve the consultant.
Commissioner Emerick stated that the traffic study would impact the
cost/benefit analysis study.
Commissioner Chitiea reminded the Commission that the County had recently !made '
a number of changes to make it more difficult to bypass Cities in development,
such as raising fee structures.
Otto k t to ro i1 ut Deputy City Planner, stated...... that th
e o . Cat needed
p y y � yannex the
area, but that it was important not to go into negotiations with the attitude
that the City would annex no tter what.
Commissioner Blakesley asked how much influence the City had in the County
process.
Mr. Henderson stated that the County process does not permit enough time for
staff to bring the proposed projects to the Planning Commission for input
before comwnting.; said recently the Couny's posture has been to look at
City requirements and if City requirements are way beyond County requirements,,
they ignore City requirements.
Chairman Niel stated he had recently read an article in the 'newspaper that
County Supervisors had directed County staff to pay closer attention to City
requirements within spheres of influence.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she wanted to go on record as standing firm and
that the City should work with the consortium only if the consortium worked
with, the City.
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Mr. Buller stated that on January 23 these concerns could be discussed further
t the workshop. He recommended that the ithree community meetings mentioned
earlier be scheduled into the annexation program. He felt staff could look at
the schedule to see whe the meetings could be fit in, but they should be
before the Planning Commission review'. He proposed that the first planning
Commission meeting be only an introductory presentation with no discussion,
the second meeting be the actual public hearing, and that the third eti ng be
tentatively set as the meeting at which find action could be taken.
Mr. d M Henderson stated that staff had with
t w _ the other property owners in the
n r co so tidm and they e; 1 n t y are looking forward to annexation', as they ;have committed
many dollars to the process.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
r. Buller stated the City will be preparing a two-year budget and staff
needed to meet with the`'Commissioners to discuss the work program.
The consensus of the Commission was that a meeting will be held. on Thursday,
February g at Commissioner Tbls y"s home, beginning at :00 P.M.
r. Buller invited the Commissioners to attend the sign workshop being held on
January 30 at the Lyons 'Center.
Commissioner Chitiea expressed concerns about the Terra Vista Town Center plan
reviews. She requested that a workshop be conducted to ascertain if all
requested elements have been included.
The consensus of the Commission was to adjourn to a workshop following; the
January 19 Design Reviews meeting.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked that staff review all required patio furniture for
plazas to be sure it is of a <substantial and permanent nature.
Chairman McNiel stated that patio furniture should not be solely defined as
seat walls around planters.
Co `issidner Chitiea stated that Design Review should be reviewing patio
furniture during review of the project.
Mr. Henderson stated that patio furniture would be included in a design
criteria guidebook currently 'being developed.
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Mr. ; Buller stated he would circulate an administrative memo to all staff
regarding patio furniture, to be sure permanence and compatibility with
architecture are considered. He stated the subject would also be covered in
the design guidelines being developed and perhaps the 'Industrial' Specific Plan
should be modified to include the subject.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the fire alarm system installed in the Lyons
Center looked tacky.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Fred Deaux, 11036 Shaw Street, felt that every effort must be made on the part
of the Planning Commission to indicate that Mr. Dilorio needs' the City, not
that the City needs Mr. DiI'orio. He stated that City Council had recently
gone on record that they may look at an overall growth management process, and
therefore Mr. DiIorio seemed to be trying to push his annexation through
before the City enacted growth management standards. He felt the City should
not trade substance and quality for speed. He felt the City is running out of
infrastructure to support growth and annexation and needed to look at
available water supplies before allowing annexation.
Mr. Deaux supported the Planning Commission decision to deny the variance for
light standards higher than 15 feet.
Mr. Buller stated that Councilmember Brown had requested that an item be added
to the next City Council agenda regarding the Carlsbad Growth Management Plan.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tdlstoy', seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried to
adjourn.
9;40 P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to a January 19, 1989, workshop at
the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center following Design Review to discuss
the Term Vista Town Center.
Respectfully submitted,
'g� P&P I
Brad Bu ler
Sec re to ry
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
January 5, 1989
TERRA VISTA TOWN CENTER SIGN PROGRAM WORKSHOP
Chairman McNiel called the adourned meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 10:01 'p.m. '' at the Rancho
Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga.
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the Terra Vista Center Sign
Program.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Bla esle , Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce`
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None'
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, Dan Coleman, Senior planner;
Otto Kroutil , Deputy city Planner; Brett Horner,
Assistant Planner
Tom Bond, Architects Pacifica, presented an overview of the revised sign;
program. The monument signage concept was changed from' tower elements
to 1 ' x 181 ground mounted' signs.
David Sutherland, design consultant representing Target stores,
presented heir reasons for redesigning the monument sign and explained
their concept for a five (S) foot high wall sign.
Mr'. Bond distributed copies of the latest monument design which was
developed that afternoon through discussions with Target;
representatives.
The Commission reviewed the proposed sign program and gave the following
direction to the applicant:
1. The monument signs as proposed were deemed unacceptable.
The Committee stated that the monument signs should
identify "Town Center' rather than advertise the major
tenants (Target, vyn 's, etc. ).
f The sign Program should be revised to include two lower wall
monuments identifying "Town Center" on either side of the
main' entry drive off of Foothill Boulevard. No tenant
signage should be allowed on or near those signs.
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3. The major tenants could be provided with street-side;
signage on smaller scale monument signs along Foothill
Boulevard. If proposed, these monument signs should be
located between the restaurant pads along Foothill
Boulevard and spaced a sufficient distance from any
restaurant monument sign and outside of the storm drain
easement and 'strutR.O.W.
. Fields of tile on the monument signs was discouraged.
. The proposed sign colors may be acceptable if the size of
the letters was reduced.
5. A theatre marquee at the corner of Haven Avenue and Town
Center drive may be acceptable it the sire of the sign was'
reduced significantly. A ground-mounted monument sign was
suggested with some type p
t e of protective cover`' over the
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marquee letters. Identification of the Entertainment
Center was encouraged over identification of the theater
only. "Edwards Entertainment Center" was suggested.
. The maximum wall sign height for major tenants was
discussed but a precise size was not approved. A 4 foot
high maximum sign was, however;, the preference of the
Commission.
8. The sign program needs to clearly present the hierarchy o
signs with the primary focus being on the entry monuments
identifying the "Town Center.
9. ` Comments 3-7 from the October 20, 1988 sign program
Ming remained unchanged.
The meeting concluded at 12: 14 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
/�5Brad ul l er
Sec re ta ry
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