HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes Jul-Dec 1988 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
December 28, 1988
Chairman McNil called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 5:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blake ley, Bruce Emerick, Larry
McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
C OMM,ISSIONERS: ABSENT: Suzanne Chitiea
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Barre Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer* Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner; Otto Kroutil ,
Deputy City Planner; Russ Maguire, City Engineer; Scott
Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Bill
Silva, Deputy City Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, carried with Emerick
abstaining, to approve the minutes of December 14, 1988.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-35 - HUGHES INVESTMENTS - A request for approval
oT rev T-s-e-d-e T ieivail To—n i as I Rqure y_Z_d_ndTt`runs of Approval for Phase I of
a neighborhood shopping center, consisting of two retail shop buildings of
1 ,024 square feet and a service station of 2,187 square feet on land
zoned "Village Commercial Center", located at the northwest corner of Base
Line and Victoria Park Lane - APN: 227-111-28, 34, and 35.
Commissioner Tolstoy requested the item be pulled for discussion. He stated
he would like to see the pop outs and recessed to fronts with more angular
articulation.
Chairman McNiel asked how deep they were.
Steve Naves, Assistant Planner, responded 3 feet..
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Geoff Rdeslund SGPA Architecture and Planning, stated he had no problem with
angling the walls„ but requested that the angling not be continued on the face
the other tenant portions.
Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion, Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy to adopt the Resolution
approving Conditional use Permit 88- 5, with modification to require revised
drawings indicating angular articulation be approved by City Planner. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAK`ESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL, T LSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NINE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: CNITI carried,
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 11891 - C'i1UN ELL, ARMSTRONG,
v s'1 on of acres o an n o parce s t n
n arum mpac Heavy Industrial designation Subarea 9) of the
Industrial Specific Plan, located on the south side of Arrow Route at
Milliken Avenue - A : 9111- .
NEW BUSINESS '
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSES ENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 6 - 'Utl ; ELL,
e revieow a e s r an or mac
industrialcomplex 'an ase I consisting of six I l industrial buildings
totaling 635,970 square foot on 32.4 acres of land in the Minimum Impact
Heavy Industrial designation (Subarea g) of the Industrial Specific Plan, '
located on the south side of Arrow Route at Milliken Avenue _ APN: 9-
111 .
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Emerick asked when the hydrology information had originally been
requested from the; applicant.
r. Murphy responded approximately 4 to b weeks ago.
Commissioner Emerick asked: if the concern was that adverse numbers might
affect the placement of buildings.
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r. Murphy responded that it was felt the building placement Dwight potentially
be affected.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.;
Lee Redmond, O'Connell , Armstrong, Brigham & partners, state they had been
providing n reports to the _.City w
p as ; nested �t the fast info
rmation on being
presented on Thursday, December . He felt the conditions i the Resolution
re sufficient to protect the City and requested approval rattier than a
continuance
Jim "pestling, partner in charge of construction activities, C*Connell,
Armstrong, Brigham & Partners, stated they felt they had enough area to the
north to expand the retention basins to reduce overall depth if necessary. He
did not feel the site plan would have to be revised. Because the Resolution
was conditioned to require approval of the hydrology report by Building and
Safety, he requested the Resolution be approved, He offered to pay the cost
for the City to submit the report to an outside` consultant if it would help to
expedite matters.:
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what the ponding depth would be in areas 'where
automobiles would be parked.
r. Murphy stated the deepest portion would be in the truck, parking areas,
only a few automobile parking spaces would be affected.
r. Wetling; stated there would be a maximum ponding depth of 19 inches in all
three retention areas.
Commissioner Rlakesley asked if pooling would be seen in an average year.
Mark Seits, Williamson and Schmid Civil Engineering, stated they had requested
historical rain data from the County to cover the last ten years, but they
re still waiting for that;; data. He said all smaller events would be flushed
out of the system with no retention oh-site. He said the extended ponding and
retention would be seen in 25, 50, or 100 year events.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel asked if Engineering was comfortable with Building and Safety
Condition 1) of Resolution DR 88 .
Mr. Murphy stated the -Condition was added by wilding and Safety because they
did not feel comfortable with the information that had previously been
provided and had not had time to review the latest submitted information.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the map he had seen reflected
deeper ponding.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to ash Mr. Seits if he stood
behind the 19 inch depth,
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Mrs its responded that he did.
Chairman McNiel stated he would be more concerned if they had initially come
in with low numbers and were now increasing the numbers, but instead they had
initially come in with higher numbers and were now decreasing them after
further study.
r Hanson stated Engineering would have to approve the hydrology port prior
to issuance of building permits.
Commissioner Emerick stated the worse case' would be that the applicant would
return for site plan revisions.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt comfortable with the 'parcel sizes and lack of rail
service to some parcels, but he did not wane the applicant to expand the
ponding areas by sacrificing the landscape areas or the layout. He was
comfortable with 12 inches and ld inches for automobile and truck areas
respectively. e pointed out that the railroad tracks in the area are
elevated because <there has been a problem with; ponding during rains because
the storm drains 'under the tracks are not adequately sized to handle heavy'
rains.
rMurphy suggested a limit of 4 hours of ponding be added to the Conditions
in order to be consistent with the report.
r ei is asked for
clarification regarding the.. h _u' r ti
me limit._ e stated
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the site would not be completely dry, but there would be minimal ponding of up'
to 6 inches. He said in order to get. the area completely dry it would be
necessary to outlet more than the downstream capacity could handle. He stated
that the combined capacities of the outlets would exceed the maximum they were
allowed to drain if the Commissioners wanted the area to be totally dry within,
hours. however, i ; could drop to 6 inches' within a' -hour period, He
stated revised calculations were submitted to the City on December 22, which
reducedthe maximum depth from 27 inches to 18 inches.
Commissioner Emerick asked what reporting station was used for the 1 -,year
storm calculations.
Mr. Seits responded they used San Bernardino Hydrology Manual , based on the
Noah Atlas rainfall , which was around feet 3 inches in 24 hours.
Chairman McNiel asked the height of the building doors in the area.
MrMurphy stated the buildings all had dock-high doors, 48 inches.
Mr. Westling stated water would lap against the side of the building, but
would net go in the doors.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner of stoy stated he had no problem 'i f the depth was reduced' to
inches or less within 4 hours.
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Hanson suggested adding wording to Special Condition 3. (c) to allow the
City Engineer to approve equivalent systems in place of an interim berm., ditch
and retention basin on the north side of Arrow Route.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick to adopt i Environmental
Assessment and Parcel Map 11891 with modifications to allow the City Engineer '
to approve equivalent systems in place of an interim berm, ditch and tention
basin on the north side of Arrow Route and to indicate the ponding depth would
not exceed 6' inches for more than 4 hours. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY', EMERICK,' MCNI L, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. CHITIEA -carried
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick to adopt Environmental
Assessment and Development Review 8 6 with modification to indicate the
water retention level would not exceed 6 'inches for a period; of 4 hours or
less. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, E ERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: CHITI -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
D. CONSIDERATION TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO STUDY AND 'INITIATE A GENERAL PLANT
PER # ra
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Otto Kr util, presented the staff report. He stated the City would like to
change the density in an area where the old General Plain density of Medium
Presented 4-14 units per acre. When the Medium density designation was
changed.. to 8-14 units per acre, this particular block was not changed to Low-
ilium. Some of the surrounding area is developed with single family units.
He; requested Planning' Commission direction to 'instruct staff to initiate an
amendment to change the designation to Low-Medium.
Commissioner Emerick asked the density of existing development in the area.
Mr. Kroutil stated the Barosa project was 7-8 units per acre. Other single
family homes were approximately 5 units to the acre. The General Plan
theoretically allows up to 14 units per acre.
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Commissioner Emerick asked if it would make more sense to dower the density to
Low -4 dwelling units per acre).
r. kroutil stated projects were already in process in the Low-Medium density;
range.
Commissioner Elakeley felt that because the area abuts a 'Medium density;
project;, it would be best to go to Low-Medium instead of Low.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to direct staff to study and
initiate a General Plan Amendment to lower the density to Low-Medium.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no further Commission business at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Patrick Maguire stated he did not feel the City Council should have fired
anyone and that he felt the Planning Commission was doing a good job.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by glksley, unanimously carried to
adjourn
fi:()C P.M. - Planning Commission adjourned to a January 5, 1989 workshop
following Design Review to discuss Tura Vista Town Center Sign Program.
Respectfully submitted,
A
Arad Bu ler
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
December 14, 1988
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Larry McNiel , Peter
Tolstoy, Suzanne Chitiea (arrived at 7:45
P.M. )
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Bruce Emerick
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner; Steve Hayes, Assistant
Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph
Hanson; Deputy City Attorney; Brett Horner, Assistant
Planner; Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner; Barbara
gall , Assistant Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate
Planner; Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, Cindy Norris,
Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Bill Silva,
Deputy Ci ty Engineer, Joe Stofa, Associate Civil
Engineer; Chris Westman, Assistant Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad, Buller, City Planner, announced that staff had prepared a report
regarding the Sapphire Trail and suggested that the Commissioners review the
report during a break prior to discussing the item.
Mr. Buller indicated that the applicant for Item J had requested that the item
be continued until January 25, 1989, in order to have the project return to
Design Review.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by 'lake sley, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of November 30, 1988, as amended.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-34 - C. P. LARGE - A
prop
mpTe-xon 2.96
Ti��g a mul
tiil ii:i d eve t '- dtoi t i, i ;; T d ice 7ini : uring c
acres of land in t e Industrial Park District, Subarea 7, located on the
southeast corner of Elm Avenue and White Oaki Avenue - APN: 208-351-62.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW D CARNEY T EDDQRDd -
oprnent. tote n aqua oe
1 and i the Industrial Speci fi c Pl n t Sdbare 7} located north
of C vi Center, east of
Dt1ca, on lot 14 APN. _ .
C. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT d l - HARRY 'S A request to conduct live comedy
ac spar r promo �n sports teams, lip-sync contests, hair
and clothing fashioh shovers, and a request to continue "disc jockey" doing
dping
vocals and playing r ores and
in conjunction with a restaurant/night
club, located at 10D Foothill Boulevard.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Dla esley, unanimously carried, to
adopt Items A-= through C of the Consent Calendar.
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LIC HEARINGS RWGS
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 13945 - CITATION
re en su' vs on an sgn review sing ami s oar 15
ac s of land n the Low Density Residential District 4 d ll ng units
per c the Etiwranda Specific Plan, located on the ; south side of
Righland, east East Avenue A 07-01-18.. (Continued from
November 30, 1988.)
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. She requested
that a condition be added to require submission` of a Final Noise Study prior
to issuance of building permits.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing,
Jerry Linton, Citation Builders, asked when the paperwork for reimbursement
consideration would be forwarded to City Council .'
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, indicated that: after construction of
improvements a complete list of costs should be submitted.
r. Linton stated that Engineering Condition 7 read that if the City Council
did not agree to reimbursement, the condition would be waived*
r. Silva responded that there were two elements of reimbursement. The City
Council would credit for fees for the intersection improvements at East and
Highland. He said the request for those fees would be taken to City Council
prior to final approval of the subdivision map.
r. Linton wanted the request to be forwarded to City Council prior to doing
any work.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated the request i s forwarded to City Council
along with the subdivision agreement.
r. Linton did not wish to spend any money for the design costs of the system
without assurances that City Council would approve.
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Chairman McNiel asked if there had ever been an occurrence wwhere, reimbursement
was denied.
Mr. Maguire said there had not.
Ralph Hanson asked if the condition being waived meant the work was waived or
the reimbursement was waived.
Mr. Maguire stated the entire condition would be waived. He said he knew the
reimbursement would be Approved because this was systems improvement.
Tearing no further testimony the public hearing was closed.'
Commissioner Blake ley felt it was a well done, appropriate project.
Lion: Moved by Blakesle, , seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and. Vesting Tentative 'Tract 13945 with a
modification to require a Final Noise Study prior to issuance of building
permits. Motion carried by the following vote:
DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ASSENT,* COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK, -carried
TIME EXTENSION R AND MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 84 1 - ALTA
reges o cower an shg square o0
§-1ngTe__f4miIy residence to an office for the;Alta Lora Christian Church on
.25 acres of land in the Very Low Residential District' (less than
dwelling units per acre), located on the west side of Sapphire Street,
across from Orange Street APN: 1 33 3. (Continued from November
30, 1988. )
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel asked why the time extension request was for only six months.
Ms. Kinser responded it was to fac i l i to submission of the maser plan.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
David McClary, Minister, stated the request for extension was made to allow
the church to continue using the property as they have been doing ,chile
allowing there time submit the required ster plant He said the church
planned to resubmit the plans which were submitted originally.
Chairman McNiel asked the size of the congregation.
Mr. McClary responded that there were approximately 150 members.
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Can Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that in the original approval for the
office, it was the understanding that this would be d temporary use while the
church was growing. He indicated the Planning Commission had the authority to
grant extensions up to 'twelve months.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Telstoy stated he was willing to grant a year if the church
indicated they gold brim in the master plan.
r. Coleman stated there were, two dates mentioned in the Resolution six
months for the life of the office, but the roaster plan was to be submitted by
March 14, 1989.
Chairman McNiel felt the size of the congregation would not permit the church
tu ;change their facilities at this time.
Commissioner Blakesley felt the use was compatible. He indicated the church`
was maintaining their area, and he was willing to grant the extension for one
year.
Chairman McNiel concurred with granting a one year extension, but wanted to
maintain the March 14 date for submission of the master plan.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tulstuy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Time Extension for and odi `i ation to Conditional Use Permit 84 1
with a modification to extend the permit for one year. Motion carried by the
followingvote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, MC IEL, TOLSTOY
HOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICK carried
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSES EH it CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-44 CUCAMONGA
grew to estiBIM''Tchurc n a eased space
squ het within an existing industrial park on 1.8 acres of
land in Subarea 4 (General Industrial ) of the Industrial Specific Plan,
located at the northwest corner of 7th and Archibald - APN. 09-1 1- 5.
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked about the impact of cars parking on 7th Street
prior to the pasting of "NC PARKING" signs.'
s. Kinser responded that there had not been a problem in the past, but staff
was concerned that more people would be parking on the street because of the
church.
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Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the application was triggering the "NO PARKING"
signs.
Ms. Kinser responded that the Engineering Division was attempting to crake all
industrial areas "no parking" area's.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steve Fitch, Senior pastor of the church, stated he was available to answer
questions.
Chairman McNiel inquired about the size of the congregation.
r. Fitch responded that there were approximately 500 members and the church
holds split services. He stated the church had volunteer parking lot
directors on Sunday mornings to steer the cars into appropriate areas.
Chairman McNiel asked if the services would still be split if the application
was approved.
r. Fitch responded that they would probably still have split services.
Cyr. Nasir Khaliilii, 9006 Archibald, Rancho Cucamonga, property owner, stated
the church had been a tenant for five years. He said the church was well
organized and had caused no problems. He said that on Sunday only the church
and one market are open so parking problems were not anticipated, He 'also
pointed out that there was a bled wall on the residential side' of the suet
between the houses and the street, so residents do not normally utilize the
on-street parking spaces.
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that sine the residential area was walled, he
foresaw no problems and he recommended approval .
Commissioner Blakeley concurred.
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Chairman McNiel felt there would eventually be a problem with parking as the
church and the surrounding community grow. However, he felt the church could
successfully watch and solve any parking proble
Motion: Moved by Blakesle, , seconded by Tolstoy to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit €3 44. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL, TOL TOY
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NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: i C OMM I C CR : CNITIEA, t ERI K carried
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G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 14150 - WESTERN PROPERTIES -
ko ues u e ract , an 'approve proved - of map consisting of
1 wrnh s .00 acres at the an
corner of 'Milliken Avenue and
Terra Vista Parkway within the Terra Vista Planned Community into 5 lots -
AP 1077491- .
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitioa arrived.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the phasing plan was being presented because of
Department of Real Estate requirements.
r. Horner confirmed that it was.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Ralph DeMarco, Western Properties, stated that the Department of Real Estate
will not allow any escrows to close' until one half of a parcel has been
sold. In effect, if the townhomes remained on one parcel , 65 homes would have
to be sold before any of the escrows could close. Therefore, they requested
to subdivide the tract to avoid holding up any escrows.
Hearing o further testimony, the; public hearing was closed.
t'ion* Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 14I50* Motion carried
by the furl l owri n g vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BEA ESEEY CHI IEA, MCNIEL, TQESTC
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMER C -carried
H. AN APPEAL CE CONDITIONS CE APPROVAL FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13738 - R DINE
n appea o o it ons o pprova per a n ng a sty
n ergrounding, street dedications and improvements, emergency access and
storm drain facilities required for a residential subdivision of 18 single
family lots on 12.88 acres of land in the Very 'Lowy Residential District
(1-2 dwelling units per acre) , located west of Sapphire Street, south of
1 nd Street AP : 1 51-Cgl-C (Referred from November lb, 1988 City
Councilmeeting. )
ar ye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report, recommending
the deletion of conditions 3 and 7 and the retention of all other conditions
Commissioner Tolstoy asked how far Almond Street would be a full-width sheet.
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Mr. Hanson responded from Sapphire Street to Henry Street, which is an
internal street within the tract
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Rodine, applicant, apologized that their objections were first heard at
City Council <because they thought that the item had 'come before the Planning
Commission as a Consent Calendar item and they felt they had no right to
appeal the conditions at that point. They therefore took the appeal to City
Council . He stated they had worked' with staff and most of the contested
conditions had been deleted. He stated ' that the tract to the north had
already been started and bonds had been posted by that development, and he
felt that would take care of most of the remaining contested conditions. He
felt Rodine was not generating any of the drainage problems. He said the
major remaining issue was undergrdunding of utilities off-site.
Allan Donnelly, Corporate Counsel for Rodine, stated the main question
regarding the sewer centered on whether the development would be required
connect to the public sewer. He said he had been assured by Harye Hanson
that they could use a private suer system so long as they met water quality
standards.
Chairman McNiel stated he felt the direction ction of the planning Co mission was to
go to public 'sewers in order to avoid future problems.
Brad Buller, City; Planner, stated that during the General Plan update, the
Commission requested that staff should consider undertaking a study
evaluate if all future projects should be required to connect' to the public
sewer.
r Donnelly stated that because the current City Ordinances did not require
connection to the public sewer, they could not be forked to do so. He
requesters that the conditions be written to clearly spell out that a "private"
sewer system would be acceptable.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, pointed out that the condition already
allowed septic tank facilities, which means a private sewer system.
Mr. Donnelly asked if the language could be brought back as a Consent Calendar
item.
Chairman McNiel felt there was a general consensus that septic tank facilities'
means a private sewer system so long as the required water quality standards
are met.
r Donnelly discussed the requirement for acquisition of the north half of
Almond between Sapphire and Skyline for fire access. He stated the fire access
requirement which had been adopted by the Fire District, only required a place'
for fire engines to turn around and the trail access. He said the access
along Almond was not the primary access for their tract. He said their
development did not need the other half of the street, and felt that tract
re should have been required to obtain the street as the needed it in
10210_ _ sou
q, y
order to get to their development.
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Hanson confirmed that tract 10210 was also required to obtain the right-
of-way.
Donnelly stated that Rodine"s position was that because the other tract
had put up a bond and had an agreement with City Council to do the work,
Rodine should not be faced with the same condition.
Chairman McNiel stated that the City places street- building conditions on the
developers on both sides of the street because it is unknown who will actually
complete construction first, and the City does not wish to be faced with
hazardous conditions and half-built streets. He said; reimbursement agreements
are utilized to have each developer pay for half of the construction costs.
r. Donnelly felt than there was no legal requirement that the Rodine tract
needs the street and therefore it would be unconstitutional to place such a
condition on the tract. He said that because the City had required the
condition from the other tract, they could not place the same requirement on
the Rodine tract because the City, had already accepted a bond for the ;
improvements and the City, not Rodine, was the beneficiary of the bond.
Because Rodine was not the beneficiary of the bond,; they could not sue the
other developer to complete the street, only the City could see. Therefore,
he felt Rodine was being burdened` without benefit.
r. Silva stated that the developer to the north had only performed
preliminary rough grading. He said no permits had been issued for
improvements.
r. Donnelly stated the other major problem was the storm drain channel , which
was also subject to an agreement that was bonded by another tract. He also
felt it should not be required of Rodine because they did not have the right
to sue the other developer or their bonding agreement. He felt the City was
protected by the bond of the other developer, and therefore should not be
burdening the Rodine tract. Because of his lengthy list, Mr. Donnelly'
suggested moving the item to the end of the agenda.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried to
continue the item to the end' of the agenda."
P.M. Planning Commission Adjourned
: C P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Bla esley, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried with
Tolstoy abstaining, to approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting ng of
November 1 , 1988.
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. Corcoran asked if that meant apartments would not be built.
. Buller responded that apartments would not likely be profitable at that
low a density.
Lion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by dla esley, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11934 to January
1 1989.
Chairman McNiel asked Ms. Corcoran if she would alert the surrounding
silent date.of the continued _
s. Corcoran responded that she would.
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT D DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 C - SMITH - The
Addition o seven agar en nT s an 11ekis-ti--nj--4partm 6t complex
consisting of 63 units on 5.33 acres of land in the Medium Residential
District (8-14 dwelling units per acre) , located on the east side of
Archibald Avenue, south of Church Street - AP : 1077-332-25.
Chairman McNiel stated that the applicant had requested continuance to January
, 1989. He opened the public hearing.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried;, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Development Review - b to January 25,
1989.
. ENVIRONMENTALASSESSMENT CONDITION USE PERMIT 8-4 - 1 GARDEN
goes es a s a sa e o ar iquor--foron-site
consumption in an existing 2,160 square foot restaurant on 4.0 acres of
land in the Rancho Cucamonga Village- Shopping Center, located at the
northeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Ramona Avenue - APN: C
4.
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Skip Nelson, owner, stated he was available to answer questions.
Chairman McNiel asked how the restaurant would serve cocktails without a bar.
r. Nelson stated they planned to mix drinks in the kitchen to serve at the
dining tables.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner 'Chitiea stated the operation seemed be clearly a dinner house-
type operation and she supported the use.
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Commissioner Tol spy supported the use and :noted the restaurant was protected
from the neighborhood by the nature of the layout of the shopping center.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Rlakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 86-45 Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA,:MCNIEL, T LSTUY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: C ISSICNERS: EMER C -carried
L. MODIFICATIONS TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE
ques m on ions oApproval
requTFTn_9 a 5 foot earthen berm along Etiwanda Avenue and size of
eucalyptus replacement planting as well as the Design Review of building
elevations and Detailed Site plan for a previously approved tract map
consisting of 67 single family lots on 66.10 acres of land in the Very Low
Residential District (up to `2 dwelling units per acre, located on the
east side of Etiwanda Avenue, north of Highland AP : ' 5-181-11, 12, 13,
19, 20, 21, & 30.
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Blakesley asked if the design was the sane as discussed at Design
Review.
Ms. Norris confirmed that it was.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Peter kdchin ky, applicant, stated he was mailable to answer questions.
Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea appreciated the architect's design of the project to
orient the homes to Etiwanda Avenue and 'address the Planning Commission's
concerns. She fe t the design solution of a decorative masonry wall set back
from Etiwanda, Avenue was far superior to berms, and she supported the project.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Modifications to Conditions of Approval and Design Review for
Tentative Tact 12870. Motion carried by the following vote*
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHI'TIEA CNIEL, TCLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: EMIERICK -carried
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M. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL
dpraent sgaare
oo -convenience es 'service center on 1.18 acres of land in the
General Industrial/Rail Served District (Subarea , located at the
northeast corner of 8th Street and Vineyard Avenue - APN: C -C 3-15
N. TIME EXTENSION FOR VARIANCE 86-06 ATLO K ASSOCIATES - A request to
re uce e req ,re average od an scapi ng on refit ranging;from
15 to 22 feet; to eliminate the required S foot interior side yard setback '
for a 1 ,t1CO3 square foot convenience sales and service center on 1.18
acres of land in the General' Industrial/Rail Served District, located at
the northeast corner of 8th Street and Vineyard Avenue AP' : 9-013-15.
Tom Bran, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Hearing no testimony, the public
hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the applicant had seen the additional
engineering comments.
r. Crahn stated he had reviewed the comments and conditions with the;
applicant prier to issuance of the staff report. He said the applicant made`
no comments as to whether they agreed or disagreed.
Motion- Moved by Chi iea, seconded by Blakesle , to adopt the Resolutions
approving Modifications to Conditions of Approval and Time Extension for
Conditional Use Permit 88- 4 and Time Extension,nsiod for Variance 8606. Notion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TCLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EME ICk carried
0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT D' PARCEL MAP 1140 _ WHITE C 'ELM, LTD.
co on intiFvff spa M on q # ad s o a too panes n the
Industrial Park Area, Subarea , loca d at the southeast corner of White
Oak and Elm Avenue APN** 08-3 1-
Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Knutson, Lange Engineers, concurred with the staff report and stated he
was available to answer questions.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Motion: Moved by Tolsto , seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Parcel Map 11944, Motion carried b
the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAK SLCY CHITICA, MCNICL, TOLSTAY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: CMCRICK carried
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OLD BUSINESS
P. PHASING PLAN FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1 WESTERN PROPERTIES - A
requs rcons er a and ng o fission' s cran ions regarding
phasing for the Terra Vista Town Center, an 'integrated community shopping
center on 1 acres of lard located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue
and foothill Boulevard - APN. 1077-4 1-0 , 06, and 13.
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Ralph UdNarco, Western Properties, stated Western had caucused with tenants
and: lenders and found that the original phasing condition was almost
impossible to meet. He then met with staff and concurred with the new
condition. He felt the artworks would be a good addition to the center.
Nearing no further' testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesle,y was encouraged by the works of art and felt they would
be an added attraction to the center. He stated a lot of work and money was
going into the front end of the development.
Commissioner Chiti a stated she was still uncomfortable with the situation and
had the same concerns she had previously expressed. However, she felt the
opportunity to obtain artwork for the public was important and expressed a
willingness to go along with the revised phasing.
Chairman McNiel felt the artworks would enhance the center and help attract.'
high-quality tenants.
Motion- Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Phasing Plan' for Conditional Use Permit 8 -1 . Motion carried by
the following` vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
SENT: COMMISSIONERS: C CRICK carried
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Q. SAPPHIRE TRAIL (Oral Report)
Chairman McNiel stated he; had asked that the item be returned to the
Commission because he drove to the area and he felt the areas shown on the
video were not the areas of dominant concern.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Greg Pilcher, President of the Alta Loma Riding Club, read a letter from Vicki
Jackson, Member-at-Large of the Trails Committee, in which she stated she
fully supported the trail improvement. he also read from a December 12 letter `
from Susan Arehart, in which she stated she had previously objected to the
fencing at the intersections because it cut down on visibility, but she felt
the City had corrected that problem. She said she had not ridden on the trail
and could therefore not comment on the width of the trail Mr. Pilcher then
presented a video prepared by Vicki Jackson, which depicted `horses passing
each other, passing a pedestrian and riding' side by side down the trail .
Linda Valenti', 6278 Alta Loma, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she would not want to
be on the trail with a baby buggy, deg on a leash, or a child® She stated
there was a potential for many horses in the tract, as if only half of the
houses had a horse, there would be 30 horses. She felt the City should plan
for that potential use. She presented a video which depicted two teenagers
ruing horses and stated the teenagers did not have the horses under
control . She said Alta Loma Riding Club had made the recommendations for the
trails in 1979 and the demographics of the City have changed. She also stated'
the Alta Loma Riding Club did not state an 8-foot trail was adequate with a
fence, and the drawing ;depicted a tree on one side of the trail . She felt the
original intent was that an 8-foot grail not be enclosed on both sides. Ms.
Valenti said she had talked with other municipalities, and the County had a
minimum width of 15 feet, Chino standards called for separate trails for
horses with trails along the street beings a minimum of 15 feet wide with
maximum 40-inch tall fencing, Upland 'had no enclosed trails, and Norco left;
all old trails open, with no fencing over 3 feet high, and all fencing at
least o feet back from the curb. She stated that Na it Ahmed, City Engineer'
for Norco, stated she could quote hire that an enclosed -foot community uni use
trail creates a' dangerous and unsafe condition, and he invited the
Commissioners to call ` him at 735-3900. She said there was also a new
development north of Banyan with fencing right up to the intersections. She
said the Safety Commission was going to view pedestrian safety. She
appreciated the Riding Club's concern to have trails, but felt leaving the
fence up would create much discontent.
Fred Ce u , 110 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated there was a real
conflict of interest, and he was inclined to disagree with staff's position
that 8 Feet was adequate, because other communities do not appear to feel it
is adequate. he felt homeowners moved in with a sidewalk which was torn up
and replaced with a trail , and it was unfair to change their neighborhood. He
felt the PVC fencing would not stop the horse but could inure the rider.
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Chairman McNiel felt the fence gave an illusion of containment to the horse.
Commissioner Blakesley pointed out that the Public Safety Committee suggested
leaving the fencing as is, now that portions of the fence had been removed.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the Trails Committee should look at all future
fences at intersections to avoid sight-line visibility problems.
Commissioner ' hitiea stated that as the Public Safety Commission had reviewed
the sight-line visibility and did not recommend closing the trail at the
equestrian easement, she felt the Planning Commission should follows their
recommendation,
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that the trail was discussed at the Public
Safety Commission Meeting. They indicated the: trail was a feeder trail for
e destrian use or equestrian services and if a misuse persisted a presented
aq problem, then they would retrofit to run the fence across and block it
off. Staff will be monitoring use and proble
Motion.- Moved by 8lakesley, seconded by Chitiea, to direct staff to prepare a
memorandum to City Council , finding that the trail width is adequate. Motion
carried by the following vote.
DES. COMMISSIONERS: TOL TO
ABSENT: 1FNt LRIK carried
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Commissioner Tolstoy agreed that the trail width was adequate, but felt the
fence should be removed.
r. Buller stated' that the memorandum could be brought back to the Planning
Commission to be placed on the Consent Calendar.
r. Maguire stated the City Engineering staff was already studying other
trails in the City to see if retrofitting would be necessary.
10:10 P.M. Planning Commissioner Recessed
1 : 6 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
R. TRACT 13857 DESIGN REVIEW - M. J. BROCK & SONS, INC. - The Design Review
o u ing a evati n e a e e--'Plan for Tpreviously approved
Tentative Tract Map consisting of 69 single family lots on 18.48 acres of
land in the Low-Medium Residential District (4-8 dwelling units per acre),
located at the southwest corner of Banyan and Milliken Avenues - AP : 1-
166.
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S. TRACT 13858 DESIGN REVIEW - M. J. BROCK & SANS, INC. - The Design Review
o ng a eva an etas eSite Plan or a previously approved
Tentative Tract Map consisting of 61 single family lots on 17.40 acres of
land in the Low-Medium Residential District 4-8 dwelling units per acre),
located at the southwest corner of Banyan and Milliken Avenues - 'APN: -
7155.
n d the staff report.r Assistant Planner, presented e T G_ahn ss t n i o � � P
Commissioner Ehitiea suggested adding natural fieldstone to the listing of
allowable materials for the wall by the front walk.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steve Shepard, M. J. Brock, supported stafff's recommendation and indicated he
had planned to use stone for the wall.
Chairman McNiel asked the size of the lots.
r Shepard responded that they averaged 7,500 square feet.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested adding an acoustical standard...
r .. Shepard responded that they had already provided staff with a final
acoustical study for the tract.
Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing; was closed.
Commissioner Dhitea expressed appreciation to the developer: for modifying
plans at Design Review°s request to provide a bonus room+ area in place of a
gauge door, giving so 4-car garages the outside look of a 3-ear garage.
Commissioner Tolstoy liked the architectu
Motion- Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolutions`
approving Tract 13857 Design Reviews and Tract 138 Design Review with
modifications to add natural fieldstone to the listing of approved materials
for the wall by the front walk. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS.* BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EME IEk -carried
T. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-3 " UTMAN-MACDONALD & PARTNERS - The development of
T-two�;Tstory 26,2655square fboot 'o ice a ng on .D9 acres of land in
the Haven Avenue Overlay District (Subarea' , located at the northeast
corner of haven Avenue and Acacia Street - APN: 09-401 D1.
Chris ekes an, Assistant Planner, presented the 'staff report.
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Chairman McNiel asked if the applicant had been informed of changes to the
conditions.
. Westman responded that they had been informed at Technical Review.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Fearing no testimony, the public
hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the elevation facing Haven Avenue depicted black
glass and painted concrete.
Commissioner Tolstoy thought the building was going to be sandblasted.
Brad Buller, City planner, stated this building was going in ,just north of the
existing project built of sand-blasted concrete.
Chairman McNiel stated that the buildings in place that are a part of this
project are constructed' of a painted concrete tilt-up material .
Commissioner Chitiea objected to the exterior walls and stated that as the
project was in a prominent position going north on Haven, she felt the corner
should be upgraded. She suggested that the buildings already in place were
not up to the standards of Haven Avenue and she preferred cutting off the view
to the interior of the project. She suggested an alternate finish should be
used and felt the elevation to the front looked more like the back of a
building. She felt the proposed building was more suited to the industrial
area than the corner of Haven and Acacia.
Commissioner Blakesley concurred.
Commissioner Tolsoy also felt the design should' be upgraded.
r. Buller suggested continuing the item to January 11, 1989 in order to allow
staff time to work' with the applicant and take the project back; through Design;
Review.
Commissioner of stoy requested more articulation on the building as well as
surface texture changes.
Lion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by glakeley, unanimously carried, to
continue Development Review 88-37 to January 11, 1989.
APPEAL OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OR TENTATIVE TRACT 13738 - RDDI C`
r. Donnelly requested that the >word "security" be substituted for the word
"'surety" on Standard Condition L.7. He said City Code and the state law
provided for posting security and that "surety" referred to a parson. He
stated Rodin Rodine disagreed with ..7. as written, but they would agree to post a!
security. He felt using the word "surety" indicated the City would require a
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bond, but said he had been informed by the City Engineer's office that Rodine
would also have the option of utilizing a cash deposit, instrument of credit,
or a lien. Therefore, he felt the word should be changed to "security".
Ralph Hanson stated the word "suety" could also refer to context of "surety
agreements", which was what the condition required. He felt the wording could
remain as "surety".
Mr, Donnelly said Rodine was agreeable to providing undergrodnding of
utilities on their half of Almond and Sapphire, but their position was that
the City does not have the right to impose a condition that in-lieu fees be
requird for undergrounding on the opposite side of the street. He said °City
Council has passed a list of streets they 'want to underground;. As Sapphire
was not on that list, they felt the measure being imposed was a punitive
measure on the developer. They felt to require that condition on the map was
unconstitutional * He asked for clarification of the meaning of Condition - .
arrye Hanson stated that any existing utilities which must be moved would
have to be moved at the developer's expense. He gave an example of a street
being constructed and requiring the movement of an existing water meter.
Mr. Donnelly wanted the minutes to reflect that the condition did not refer to
the undergrounding of utilities. He stated the developer was agreeable eabl
performing improvements only on their side of the streets. He stated that if
the developer is required to put in an $800,000 storm drain, the land would
remain undeveloped, as only 18 houses were being placed them. He stated that
no government entity had the right to make a property economically non-viable
to develop,
Commissioner Chi ti ea asked if the homeowners in the rests of the City should
have to pay for improvements required for the development.
r. Connelly responded that the storm drain should not be required for their
development because the development is not in a hazard zone of the General
Plan or the federal maps. He felt the only need for the channel would be
caused by the tract to the north building and rediverting water. He therefore
felt the northerly tract should be responsible for payment. He said Rodine
had agreed to put in an earthen channel because that would take care of any
problems they; would create.
Fred Deaux, 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, felt that if the financial
liability of the property hinged on the storm drain, than was the developer's
problem. He wanted to know where septic tanks would drain and if the tanks
would be lined or leach into the ground.
da;r°rye Hanson stated the design had not been approved, but they probably would'
leach.
Hr. Deaux requested that the City require the tams be lined in order to avoid
future environmental problems. He wanted to know how close the sewer line
would have to be in order to reasonably require the developer to provide
publ is sewer hookups. He gave his full support for all the requirements oni
the project.
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arrye Hanson stated that the nearest sewer stub out is 4,200 feet from the
project.
r. Rodine felt they should; not be required to solve other peoples' problems
at their expense and therefore, they should not be required to install the
concrete strum drain. He said that septic tanks and a leach field work wel1 ,
and the septic tanks would be lined and up to state health codes.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed*
Chairman Niel stated there were several major issues - the undergrounding of
utilities, the concrete versus earthen' channel , and widening of Almond.
r. Silva stated staff's position was that the concrete channel was needed to
protect the site. He said the channel would be built as a master plan channel
and would be 1reimbursable from the Storm Drainage Fund, He said
Engineering felt the earthen berm channel would d not be adequate.
Commissioner Toltoy stated the planning Commission was charged with
protecting public health and safety. He said :that 'Rodine's contention that
they were south of the channel and not contributing any water into the channel
was not.; valid because protection of their development and the other people
downstream was an important requirement. He stated he felt the developer was
ignoring the fact that the drain was 10 reimbursable. He stated the drain
to the west of the project had already been built.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred. She felt the developer had the responsibility
for protection and safety of the residents they propose to bring into the
area.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that since` the City was founded in 1977 there have
been two years of tremendous rains, during which many of the channels have
overflowed.
Commissioner illakesley concurred that he did not understand the developer's
objections since the building of the channel was reimbursable. He stated that
he fuller supported requiring the developer to pay half; the cost of
undergrounding utilities on their frontage, as that was requested of all
developers. He agreed that conditions 3 and 7 could be deleted.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the City should be consistent and require
undergrounding of utilities, as the City wanted to have every area
undergrounded as soon as possible'$
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with the dnderg;roundi ng requirement.
Chairman McNiel concurred that the deletion of conditions 3 and 7 was
satisfactory. He felt the Planning Commission should retain all ether
conditions. He stated the City has always required paving of full streets.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred.
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Commissioner Chiti`ea stated that Henry Street connected to Almond, and she
therefore felt the developer's contention that they ,did not need the street
was not valid.
Mr.i Buller stated` that the matter was referred back to Planning Comission
because City Council heard the proponent had not discussed any of the matters
with the Planning Commission. He stated City Council wanted feedback on the
Planning Commission's views, and the appeal to City Council was still active.
Barrye Hanson suggested a new Resolution could be prepared and brought back to
the next Planning Commission meeting.
Ralph Hanson suggested directing staff to prepare a written memorandum
evidencing the Planning Commission's findings,
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea to direct staff to prepare a
written memorandum regarding the Appeal of Conditions of Approval for
Tentative Tract 13738, indicating' that the Planning Commission agreed with the
deletion of conditions 3 and 7, but wished to retain all other conditions.
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CN1T1E , MCNIEL, TCLSTCY
DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMER C -carried
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no 'additional Commission business at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Tol toy, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried to adjourn.
11. 0 P.M. Planning Commission Adjourned to their regular meeting on
December 28, '1988, at a special time of 5:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad gul er
Sec re to r
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
December 5, 1988
NORTH ETIWANDA PLAN WORKSHOP
Chairman McNiel called the December 5, 188 adjourned meeting of the City o
Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 5:00 p.m¢ at the Community
Development Agency Administration offices, 90 Rase Line Road, Rancho
Cucamonga. The purpose of the meeting was to continue with a review o
planning concepts for the North 'Cti nda Area Plan®
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne C itiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Braid Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City
Planner,' Larry Henderson, Senior Planner; Ban Coleman,
Senior Planner; Sett Murphy, Associate Planner; Russell
Maguire, City Engineer; Dave Leonard, Parks Project
Coordinator; and Karen Emery, Associate Park Planner
Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, made brief introductory rks concerning
the subject and indicated that the following materials had been presented in
the Planning Commission packet and would be discussed this evening. These
items included; revised Land Use p, Trails Map,, Proposed Annexation Map,
Density and Lot size Analysis, University Crest Lot' Layout Plans, Section Key
p, Grading Sections, Pa eo Section, Village Nub Master Plan, Conceptual
Landscape Plans for 24th Street and Day ,Creek Boulevard, and an Open Space
Memo dated November 26, 198 with exhibits.
Joe Di lorio representing the Caryn Company, with members of his consulting
am, presented an overview of the materials presented to the Co mission,
including such items as community design elements, open space, grading,
architecture, st ` etscape, and processing schedules.
Russell Maguire, City Engineer, indicated that the City Engineering Department
had commented on the Draft Traffic Study and has requested a response b
provided by the project proponent in a format that addresses port by point
the City Engineer's letter. No was concerned with the effect of imposing
merely is fee mitigation measure for regional traffic, using the Foothill
Freeway as an example. It was further indicated that he was requesting the
proponent's engineer assess the ramifications if the freeway was not
constructed during the project life.
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It was further questioned as to what would be needed to make a decision
concerning the overall processing versus individual processing of the
University Caryn; project.
Dilorio indicated that they were at the decision making point. His grain
concern is that there are financial comitments, to the University to have
tentative tract maps approved during 1989 e indicated' that if a commitment
could be made for the review and approval of said gaps during 1989, it would
be his preference to process both the University Crest and the overall plan at
the same time through the City for Development Agreement and Specific Plan
approval ,
Mr. Ui Iorio; recapped the meeting by stating that at the next workshop;, they
would return with the following items ; traffic study and flood control' study
with appropriate discussion by the applicant and staff, progress reports on
the fiscal impact analysis and the EIR, potential public development and
annexation agreement hearing schedule, and open space and trail system
integration. Lastly, Mr, Dilorio indicated that he felt that this additional
information could be ready for a workshop i n mid-January, 1989.
There was a consensus that the next workshop would be held at :00 p.m. at the
same offices on January 23, 1989.
The meeting adjourned at p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION I UT
Regular Meeting
November 30, 1988
Chairman called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:10 P.M. The meeting was held Lions park
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led i the pledge of allegiance. 1
ALL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Did Blakesley, Suzanne Chita, Bruce
crick, Larry McNiel ,, peter Tnl stay
COMMISSIONERS: UT: None
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STAFFPRESENT: Brad Buller, City planner; Dan Coleman, Senior planner;
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Brett Uo;rnr,
Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Associatei planner;
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner; Cindy Norris,
Assistant planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary Bill Silva,
Deputy City Engineer; Joe tufa Associate Civil Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City planner, announced that the planning 'Commission would b
adjourning to a December 5, 19 o sh p on North Cti randa Area community
development.
r. Buller announced that the applicants for Items A and E had requested their
items be continued until the December+ 1 , 1988 meeting.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chiti a unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of_September 22, 1988.
Motion:' rived by Chiti , seconded by Tnitny, unanimously carried, to
approve the minutes of November _ , 1988, as amended.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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A.,, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 145 _ CITATION A
nta � � anW o sing e rimiTyot;s on 15'
acres of land in the Lod Density ResidentialDistrict 4 dwelling units
per; acre) of the Etiwanda Specific plan, located on the south side of
Highland, oast of East Avenue - 7 -1 .
I. TIME EXTENSION FOR AND MODIFICATIONTO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 4-21 ALTA
cbnr an oot
sink rs nc e to ad office for the Alta Loss Christian Church on
. 5 acres of land in the Very Lori Residential District (less than
dwelling units per acre), located on the west 'side of Sapphire Street,
across from Orange Street . 15 - $
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing,
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tole , ' unanimously carried to
continue Environmental Assessment and Vesting Tentative Tract;1 4 and Time
Extension for and Modification to Conditional Use Permit 4 1 to December 14,'
1988.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 15 - LEIS HOMES - A
rs n la su son an sr rico' a. — r-SlT • arTy. Tors add 7
condominium units on 11 acres of land in the Medium Density Residential
District 8-14 dwelling units per acre) , located within the Terra Vista '
Planned Community at the southeast corner of Haven Avenue and 'Base Lira
Road AP: 77-1158.
Brett hornr, Assistant planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Don Thompson, Lewis Homes, stated he was available to answer questions.
Hearingno further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if noise from Haven Avenue had been discussed
during Design Review.
rHorner stated a preliminary acoustical report had already been
submitted. The preliminary report recommended mitigation:measures, 'which had
been added to the Resolution. He suggested adding Design Review condition 1.
to require a final acoustical report be submitted prior to issuance of
building permits.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r Thompson agreed to the submission of a final acoustical report prior to
the issuance of building permits.
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Joe Muscola, 10536 Sunburst, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he owned the house
behind the proposed condominiums. He asked if the condos would be one- or
two-story and also asked if single family houses were being planned as one- or
two-story.
Mr. Thompson stated the single family houses would possibly be built next
spring and would probably be two-story.
Mr. Horner stated that the conceptual plan indicated two-story.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea requested that all wood fencing exposed to public view be
stained, as well as treated with a water sealant.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13662 with amendments
requiring a final acoustical report prior to issuance of building permits and
staining of the exposed wood fencing. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, IEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ETIWANDA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 88-06
1116 nces�ervices as a con
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permilteR-use within the Office/Professional Districts of the Etiwanda
Specific Plan.
0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-37 - MERCY
squ set do acres of la in the Cfice " rofssioal Cistritt of
the Etiwanda Specific Plan area, located at 7649 Et wand Avenue - APN:
227-191-16.
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing.
Dick Gleener, L. 0. King Engineers, stated the applicant agreed with the staff
report with the exception of two items. They would like to have provisions
made for the parking of two ambulances on the premises. They also wanted to
delay the freeway landscaping in-lieu fee for five years.
Fred Deaux, lIU36 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, questioned why 'there were no
provisions for employee parking.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated he did not object 'to are ambulance service being
established In the Office/Professional District, but felt it would be more
appropriate to have it in a central location.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
Don Reed, 9C Apricot, Rancho 'Cucamonga, owner of Mercy Ambulance, stated
this would be the third location in Rancho Cucamonga. He felt this location
was appropriate to reach the Etiwanda area within the ten-minute City-mandated
response time.
Commissioner Tolst y asked if he felt they would be able to reach Terra Vista
and Victoria'within the required time limit.
rReed stated he felt they would and he knew of no other available locations'
that they could afford
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea felt parking for a second ambulance could be added
without a problem
'ck stated that the landscaping akin the freeway had been
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discussed in`Design Review and rt had been pointed out that it would add value;
to the property.
Commissioner Blakesley stated that if the operation was run as indicated, then
he a no need for employee parking to be added.
Commissioner Tolsto,y asked how much parking room would be available if two
ambulances ere stored at the location. He suggested a supervisor might want
to visit the facility.
Dan Coleman,: Senior Planner, stated here was room to park; four vehicles.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r: Gleener asked if the freeway landscaping in-lieu fees would have to be
paid up front.
r® Buller stated they generally must be paid prior to issuance of building
permits.
r. Gleener asked if the fees could be prorated over five ;years.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
r'. Buller stated' that it is the position of staff that fees are paid at the
point of issuance of building permits. He felt the applicant could appeal
that decision to the City Council . The Conditional Use Permit approval would
not be final` until the amendment on the Etiwanda Specific plan Amendment was
approved by City Council .
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Commissioner Chitiea asked by landscaping would not be installed immediately
if fees were paid.
Mr. Buller explained that the City was working with CalTrans alTrans had
not as yet accepted a master plan of landscaping and the City does not have
plans or irrigation and maintenance conditions available. He stated the City
needs to provide a plan for CalTrans to approve.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated it had been proposed that CalTrans
allow individual developers to install and irrigate their own segments, but
CalTrans insists that the landscaping be done in large segments.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Et and Specific Plan
Amendment 88-06. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAK ESL EY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, IEL, TOLSTOY
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 88-37, with
modifications to allow for two ambulances. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, ERICK, MCNIEL
NOES.- COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 11030 - WESTERN PROPERTIES - A
ista
Planned Community, located on the northeast corner of Foothill Boulevard
and Haven Avenue - APN: 1077-421-05.
Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report. He added
wording to the Resolution to require that the traffic signal at Foothill
Boulevard and Haven Avenue be modified and upgraded.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing.
Ralph DeMarco, applicant, stated he was available to answer questions.
Commissioner Blakesley asked why Parcel 11 was not split into a parcel for
for I and another for Major 4.
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. Ce arco ;stated that the shape would possibly change depending upon the
actual stores that leased.
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion* Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment ent and parcel Map 11030 with modifications to
upgrade the traffic signal at Foothill Boulevard and Haven Avenue Motion
carried by the following vine}
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOL T Y
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: E
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
F. PHASING PLAN FOR CONDITIONALUSE PERMIT d -1 WESTERN PROPERTIES - The
p a �ng p an or rra �s orn enter, an ntgrate' co run s oping
center on 71 acres of land in the Community Commercial District of the
Terra Vista Planned Community, located at the northeast cornea of Haven
Avenue and Foothill Boulevard - AP : 7- 1-0 , 06, and 13.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the theater complex was in Phase 1.
r. Horner confirmed that it was.
Brad Buller, City; Planner, pointed out that the phasing illustration depicted
the elimination of a small building in Phase II in the parking lot south of
Phase Ill. Approval of the Phasing plan would not automatically approve any
site plan changes.
Commissioner Blakesley asked when the corner of Haven and Foothill would be
developed.
r. Buller suggested it could possibly be developed with phase I but they did
not have a tenant as yet.
Commissioner glakesley asked if it was practical to design the plaza' area
prior to knowing tenants.
r. Buller stated the developer felt it would be difficult to design the plaza'
and fountain treatments prior to knowing the tenants.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the landscaping along Foothill included the
plaza but not the buildings.
r'. Buller stated it included the trellis work and some of the landscaping in
front of it. It did not include the fountain or plaza around the fountain.
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Chairman KcNiel asked if the plaza area adjacent to Phase 11 was part of Phase
I or Phase 11.
Mr. Horner confirmed that it would be part of Phase II and would be
hydroseeded in 'the interim.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Ralph De Marco, Lewis Homes Management Corporation, stated that prospective
store tenants have been shifting around from developer to developer. He said
they were still negotiating with major stores, but had a commitment on Major-1
with Dayton Hudson (Target) to open prior to October 1, 1989. In order to
meet the October 1 deadline, they had to start construction prior to January
6. He stated a delay in construction would mean a major sales tax loss to the
City of Rancho Cucamonga. They anticipated the parking lot for Phase II,
landscaping and traffic signals would be installed prior to October 1, 1989.
The major store in Phase II would be smaller than the previously approved site
plan and would be resubmitted to Design Review. He said the shopping center
would be in a state of construction for 2 to 2-1/2 years.
Chairman McNiel asked if they were close to closing negotiations on the pads
on Foothill Boulevard.
Mr. De Marco stated they expected firm commitments within 30 days.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked why there were only three phases. He felt Phase II
should possibly be split into two phases to begin construction on Major-3
without waiting for Major-4.
Mr. De Marco stated they were already negotiating with Major-3 and Major-4 and
had commitment letters from them. They hoped to complete Phase II by February
1, 199U. He said they would be willing to split Major-3 and Major-4 into two
phases.
Commissioner Blakesley agreed that it made sense to split the project into
more phases.
Ralph Lewis, partner of Western Properties, stated that Major-1 was pushing
very hard to meet the October 1, 1989 deadline, as they were getting ready to
place their initial stock order.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she appreciated the applicant's concern for sales
tax for Rancho Cucamonga, but she still had a major concern that the site
would become exclusively a Target Center. She felt that opening with only one
major tenant would not guarantee overall success of the center. She felt the
original phasing plan was more appropriate and wanted the entire corner to be
improved as soon as possible. She felt Phases I and 11 should go in
together. the pointed out that the Planning Commission had initially been
told that the entire center would be developed at once.
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Commissioner Tolstoy was concerned that regional centers going 'in need to
attract major users, who will not commit until final opening dates are set.
e ` wanted to be 'assured that the applicant would not core back later and
propose a grocery store for a or , which would not be appropriate. He felt
the City considers that corner a major shopping center area.
Commissioner Emerick felt if economics were not right, requiring two to go in
at once would not 'make it work because theca nothing would go in;.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she was ;concerned that the right; stores go in.
She felt that it was better to wait until it could be developed properly.
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Commissioner Blakesley 'asked for clarification of the phasing.
rBuller responded that no building would be permitted occupancy ; until all
improvements within Phase 1 were completed, including streets, landscaping,
lighting, etc. In addition, Major would have to be h; droseeded and
buildings A and B would have to be completed.
Commissioner dlakesley preferred the original phasing because it completed the
Haven and Foothill corner section.
Chairman McNiel stated he understood that the Lewis Co rpa has a commitment'
to Dayton Hudson for a specific date. Because the contract has; not been
signed with or they proposed the phasing plan because the felt they could
not delay workingon Major . Western did not rent to buildMajor-2 until the
tenant was confirmed because the store configuration might be changed
depending upon the tenant
Commissioner Blakesley asked if the original phasing plan required completion
ofMajor-2 prior to occupancy of a or-l.
r. Buller stated that in the original plan occupancy` for Major-1 would not be
held up waiting for < completion of a or- . But the first phasing ' plan
guaranteed more work would be done prior to occupancy ofMajor-1.
Commissioner merrick asked if under the original phasing plan Major and
Major-2 would have to be built concurrently.
r. Buller stated a Phasing Plan could be as specific as the Planning
Commission desired. The Planning staff felt the key elements were than
occupancy would not be allowed untilbuildings -1 and on Haven Avenue
were built. Typically, so long as things are progressing, occupancy is
permitted.
EChairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r. DeMarco stated that Western Properties was restricted from putting in a
supermarket or convenience 'store inMajor-1, - , or by their contract' with
Hughes iarket at Terra Vista Village.
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. Lewis stated that: if they were not successful in their negotiations with
Major-2, tenant 3 would move into aorta He stated if Western Properties;
did not feel confident they could complete the deal;, they would not put out
all the money required to make the improvements.
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated the Planning Commission was responding to requests made
by Lewis Homes over the last three or four !ears. He stated the changes were'
created by Lewis Homes, not the Planning Commission or the City. When the
project was - originally proposed, Lewis stated there would be no problem
securing tenants I and 2.
Commissioner itiea reiterated that she felt the corner was extremely
important and the original phasing plan was more appropriate.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with Commissioner Chitiea and preferred the
original plan.
Commissioner Emerick stated that external business circumstances have changed
things. He" stated he was willing to approve the phasing requested by the
applicant, out felt it was important that the corner ;piece of Haven and
Foothill be completed next.
r. Buller stated that the corner building was not proposed for a particular
phase in the plan. As soon as Lewis secured a tenant, they planned to ad
that building to whatever phase they were currently working on.
Commissioner Chitiea felt that the Planning Commission should be more
concerned with what was best in the long term for the City, rather than what
the current market was dictating.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing ash Mr. e Arco if he had
Major-3 signed.
r. DeMarco indicated they had three letters signed by three department stores
other than Target, but they were trying rini i e' the number of conditions
requested by the other major tenants. He 'felt it was a practical solution to
develop the Foothill and Haven 'corner and the fountain between Major-1 and
Major-2 in phase 'II. He stated that the Planning Commission had enlarged the
corner buildings from the originally proposed 5,000 square feet and 7,000
square feet to two 25,000 surd foot buildings. He said they were working with banks and Merrill Lynch to try of them to take the corner'
buildings. He felt they would be installed with Phase II. They were willing;
to split the roect into four phases.
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated he understood Lewis' position with respect toMajor-2,
but he felt; the corner should be substantially completed and the fountain
should be completed prior to occupancy ofMajor-l. He felt it would be
satisfactory condition occupancy of Major-Ito require start-up of ar®2.
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Commissioner Chitiea pointed out that if buildings A-1 and A-2 were not
constructed prior to Major-1 occupancy, Tar et's garden center would be
visible from Haven.
r. Buller stated that buildings A-1 and A-2 were part of Phase 1 and staff's
position would be that they would have to be substantially completed prior to
occupancy ofMajor-1. He stated he felt the Commission desired the corner
treatment of Haven and Foothill be added to Phase I or else completed
immediately thereafter: He suggested renumbering the phases to create a four-
phase project and including the Haven and Foothill plaza a ' a improvements
prior to occupancy of a or 1.
Commissioner Tolstoy ranted the new Phase II stared before occupancy was
given toMajor-1.
Commissioner Hlak sley stated he was concerned with the development along
Foothill , especially the corner. He agreed that Phase II should be started
prior to the occupancy of ajor-1*
Commissioner Chitiea made a 'motion that the original phasing plan be adopted.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested that the Planning Commission
should deal with the Phasing Plan being proposed.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing ask the applicant if they
fished to continue the item to resubmit a plan.
rm DeMarco stated they Mould be willing to utilize Commissioner eriok's
sugg estions.
Chairman McNiel asked if they wished to have the Commission act on the plan`
before them to either approve, deny or continue.
r. DeMarco asked for a few minutes to discuss the plan with his associates.
Chairman McNiel stated;the Planning Commission would recess for` a .short break.
a C P.M. Planning Commission recessed.
9. g P.M. planning Commission reconvened{
rd DeMarco stated they Mould agree to the changes proposed, including
constructing the fountain on the corner and having the corner buildings
substantially complete prior to Major-1 occupancy. He stated that buildings A
and B were about to go into planceck` and should come out of planchdck in the
beginning of March, which 'would give them time to complete them prior to
Target occupancy. They would put Major-2 along with the fountain and the
courtyard between store H and Major-2 in Phase 1I andMajors-3 and -4 in Phase
III, and the northern portion in Phase IV.
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Chairman McNiel stated that with such major changes it Mould be hest t
continue the item.
arcu stated he would like to amend the current Resolution and act on it
without continuing the item.
Commissioner Tolstoy wanted Phase II started prior to occupancy of Phase 1.
r. Buller stated the item could be placed at the end of this evening's agenda
to allowthe applicant t work with staff` t condition theResolution.. At
that time the Commission could decide to approve, den. , or continue.
Motion: Moved by l+ulstu, , seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to direct
staff to redraw conditions for consideration at the end of the agenda.
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ARIA CE H -C9 - WHEELER AND WHEELER
r~dos ucn rraro pad Ong s a a ung
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SC not' to of fur a rti1 cot and src station in he
Community Commercial District (Subarea of the Foothill Boulevard
Specific` Plan, located at the southeast cornea of Foothill Boulevard and
Vineyard i Avenue x- APN: 0819 -06.
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o a re ai confer and7service
s a a Ong I 's uard nt C<CS acres of land in the Community
Commercial District (Subarea of the Foothill Boulevard; Specific 'Plan,
located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Vineyard Avenue
AP : CHI -C ,
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented th stag report and referenced two+
letters; before the Cu i ssi on rs one from . Chase, a real estate consultant
to the lessees of the liquor store, and one from Donald Bollinger, the
attorney for In -Out Burger.
Commissioner ` olstogy+ asked if the City requires standard trash enclosures to
have screening above the bin to prevent trash from blowing out.
r. Murphy confirmed that it did.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Paul Wheeler, Wheeler and Wheeler Architects, stated they represent Park
Abrams Development, who has extensive experience in this type of
development. He said they had worked with the appellants and he felt the
compromise was a good one.
Peter Morrow, 1463 Albright, Upland, stated he was the original owner of the
property and was the lessor for the liquor store. He fully supported the
service station and felt it was a good project that would be beneficial t '
everyone.
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Marjorie Mikels, 8300 Utica Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, attorney for La Paloma
Condominium o o ners' Association (the appellant) , commended staff members
for resolving the issues concerning the neighbors. She mentioned that there
were still two concerns. They did not want the location of the trash '
enclosures to be only three feet from the wall and she suggested that the
trash enclosure be moved adjacent to the Red Hill Liquor trash enclosure.
They were also concerned that the center would generate considerable traffic
and no provision had been made to regulate the traffic. She requested that
"NO LEFT 'TURN" ti ge e be installed. She also requested the City staff
approve the landscaping material , size and spacing.
Commissioner glaesley asked about the likelihood that the condominium
development would move the sidewalk.
s i els stated that Hawk Development owned the area and she did not have
the answer.
John Bruno, 957 South Village Oak, Covina, stated he was the attorney for Red;
Hill Liquor, which is on a ground lease and included easements. He stated
they had not received notice of prior hearings.
Michael Alex, 2464 Ocean View, partner in the liquor store, stated their
leasehold ram for another six years. He indicated a representative of Park
Abrams had indicated they wanted to buy their leasehold and they agreed to an
option. He stated there had been an informal meeting with the planning
department, which suggested that all th re e! properties share a common
driveway. He stated they had signed; a proposed site plan only because they
were under the impression that Park Abrams would be buying their leasehold,
e stated that following the City Council meeting he contacted Park Abrams and
they had indicated they were not interested in purchasing the leasehold. He
objected to the driveway being moved and felt the front of his property would
be used for a drive for In- -Out and the service station. He stated they had
signed the original .site plan, but it had been changed several times since
then and he had not signed a new site plan. He felt the current plan buried'
his liquor store.
Hugh Davenport, Box 371, Etiwanda, partner in the liquor store, stated they
owned the leasehold on the south side where landscaping was being proposed.
e felt that trucks could no longer use the alley ;for deliveries. He also
felt a divider should be placed on Vineyard. He said the liquor store would
be liable for everyone driving on their property and that the liquor store
owned the lease on the alleyway.
Barry Chase, real estate consultant representing Mr. Alex and Mr. Davenport,'
stated the leasehold interest could be greatly burdened by the project and
cold be subject to a lot of through traffic. He felt the parking was
insufficient for the improvements being proposed. He felt the project was
taking the parking from the liquor store and the store would be greatly
hurt. He felt the project should be denied or continued to iron out a deal .
rMorrow stated he held the ground lease. He said the easement on the alley
as recorded, but he held the lease on the ground. He stated the alley was
provided for In Out Burger and the use of the 'corner parcel .
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Bruno stated the liquor store had the use of the property for the next
seven years and improvements on the property would have be approved by the
liquor store owners.
Norman Miede, attorney for the applicant, stated this was a domestic issue
which needed to be resolved as a private property issue. He states Mr.`
Morrow's"s lease with the liquor store owners provided for development of the
property.
Mr. Wheeler 'stated the trash receptacle was the same distance from the condo
development as the condo development 'trash was from their property . He agreed
with staff that traffic mitigation measures could be taken in the future if
necessary, but were not required at this time.
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesley felt it was a difficult parcel for development which
had complex considerations and required certain tradeoffs, He felt the
screening on the trash enclosure would be sufficient to mitigate concerns and
felt the City Engineer could deal with any traffic problems. He did not feel
the drive aisle would be detrimental to the liquors store and supported the
project.
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Commissioners Tolstoy ;and Emerick concurred. I
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Commissioner Chitiea stated she would like a divider on Vineyard. She
concurred with Commissioner lakesle, in regard to the trash enclosure with
the inclusion of architectural enhancements. She suggested planting a vine to
grow up over the enclose
Commissioner Tolstoy didn't fuel that was a current issue. He felt;
Engineering staff had looked into it and given several options if it presented I
a problem in the future.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated the staff report referred to a strip
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on Vineyard. There is no place to pot a median island on Vineyard as it
exists, and if it was necessary to go back and retrofit in the future, it
would require additional right-of-way. if was anticipated that the traffic
would self-regulating and that the primary entrance would e from oothil
Boulevard. At build-out "NO LEFT TURN" signage could be added exiting the
property going south on Vineyard. He anticipated traffic would torn right.
Commissioner Chitiea felt it might be prise to reconfigure the property now to
allow for two feet to be dedicated to future night-of-way 'to allow for a four
foot median.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that the service station at Baseline and
Carnelian was an example of self-regulation. He did not anticipate having to
installs median island.
r. Murphy suggested wording to modify condition 12 requiring that the south
boundary landscaping be approved by the City planner prior to issuance of
budding permits.
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Chairman McNiel stated that one of the objectives of 'the Foothill Boulevard
Specific Plan was to out down on driveway outs to the street to reduce traffic
hazards This sometimes required smaller parcels to share` driveways.
rBuller stated that the appeal to City Council was still active and the
item would be returned to City Council unless the appellants withdrew the
appeal .
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
s ik is stated ;the Homeowners' Association planned to withdraw the appeal
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tol s toy to adopt the Resolutions
approving Environmental Assessment and Variance _Cg and Environmental
Assessment and Conditional Use Pent CS with modifications to require
landscaping be approved by the City Planner prior to issuance of building
permitsMotion carried by the following vote:
DES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTC
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
J. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - - SIERRA VISTA BAPTIST CHURCH
regos o e e cer am Cori ions periang o an scang on
ase Li ne for° a revi opsly approved church fao 1 i ty 1 ocated at the
southwe st corner of Jasper Street and Lomita Court P C �CCS
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the stag report.
Chairman McNiel asked why the Water District would refuse to allow someone to
landscape a small portion of their property.
r. Buller responded that they prefer to work with another agency.
Commissioner Blakesley felt the church should pay for the landscaping, no
titter who performed the work.
r. Buller stated that the church was landscaping streets they immediately
abutted, but they did not abut this section. However, this ` area was
originally zoned residential , which would have included contribution to the
City Beautification Fund,
Russ Maguire stated that the fee structure for the Beautification Fund i
based n actual density and it would not be possible to calculate the lost
fees. He further stated that Beautification Fees would equate to much more
K coney than would actually be spent on the groundcover being planned.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Clark Lewis, 856 Berkeley Court, Ontario, Chairman of the Church Board of
Trustees, appreciated the or that the staff had done. He agreed the former
conditions should be eliminated.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner lakesley supported the first part of the modification but felt
condition IU should be reworded to have them contribute to the Beautification
Fund.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated there was no formula to calculate
the fees.
Chairman McNiel asked if there was a commitment from the water company that
they would install and maintain the landscaping.
Mr. Maguire stated a fee contribution, in lieu of construction, could be set
up as a condition. The actual cost of the construction could be determined
after working with the water company, and the City would be maintaining the
I a ndscapi ng.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, suggested modifying condition 10 to require
the applicant to install the landscaping and irrigation or contribute to the
future City beautification project.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Modification to Conditional Use Permit 87-19 with modification of
condition 10 to require the applicant to install the landscaping and
irrigation or contribute to future beautification. Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
K. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 87-01 - HARRY C'S - A consideration to modify,
granted for a disc jockey doing
vocals and playing records nightly in conjunction with a restaurant/night
club, located at 10877 Foothill Boulevard.
L. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 88-01 - HARRY C'S - A request to conduct live comedy
ac s spar fs---ce-Te-U-r-it-ins--p-r—o—mo-ting'sports teams, lip-sync contests, hair
and clothing fashion shows, and a request to continue "disc jockey" doing
vocals and playing records nightly in conjunction with a restaurant/night
club, located at 10877 Foothill Boulevard.
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Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and letters from the
Sheriff Department and Foothill Fire Protection District.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Harry Histen, applicant's attorney, introduced Paul Duran, night manager.
Paul Duran, 9158 Conifer Lane, stated he had transferred to Rancho Cucamonga
in duly 1988. He discussed the number of calls reported on the Sheriff's
port and indicated they had dropped in frequency since the last meeting. He '
indicated the two n With A Gun" calls were; initiated by the restaurant.
One of them was an off-duty police officer and the other was for an individual
who asked the bartender to hold his jacket and said there was a gun in its He '
indicated the restaurant makes ells to be: sure order is maintained. He felt
they had been cooperating with the Sheriff's Department and indicated they
were forcing people to wait outside, rather than allowing their in to overcrowd
the bar.
Jim Fngelbart, 92` Kansas, Redlands, Entertainment Manager, wanted to continue
to work with the community.. e stated they had met with City staff and
eliminated entertainment items which were of concern. He discussed the
proposed entertainment and stated acts would be screened in advance to
eliminate any potential problems.
r. Histen Mated that on the October g overcrowding situation, the usual
doorman had called in sick and a waiter was counting the exiting patrons. The
waiter forgot to reset the counter after reporting the count and they
therefore thought more people had exited and let in too many people. He'
indicated they have upgraded their security staff. He also reported that the
seven alarm calls were caused by a new chef who did not know how to properly
set the alarm. He suggested allowing limited entertainment expansion for
short period of time to demonstrate that they could operate satisfactorily.
Robert Pe pier, Rancho Cucamonga Sheriff's station, indicated that Harry E's
had made improvements, but the Department's position is that they don't know'
how an expansion of entertainment would impact the Sheriff's Department.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was<closed.
Commissioner glaEesley expressed concern that the establishment should broaden
its appeal to the community. He didn't object some of the proposed
entertainment expansion. He Melt there had been some improvement, but he was
uneasy about going ahead with expansion and supported continued probation.
Commissioner Emerick felt that when behavior was not appropriate there should'
be discipline. He supported continuing probation and revoking the current
entertainment permit. He felt Harry 's had made empty promises.
Commissioner Tol stoy felt the managers had shown poor judgment in the past.'
e fell any person with experience should have been able to see them was
overcrowding and they should have acted before the Fire Department arrived.
e preferred to continue probation for another 120 days and then perhaps allow
expansion a little at a time.
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Commissioner Chitioa did not feel the time was appropriate to expand the
permit. She wanted to see sustained improvement before expansion and would
refer to extend the probation for 180 daysinstead of 10 days.
Chairman McNiel indicated that Harry "s was first presented to the City, as a
"first class sturant" and "uniformed" security was reinterpreted to include
someone in a business suit to avoid turning away clidntole. He felt expansion
of the entertainment permit would not help the: dinner business. He did not
feel there had been sufficient improvement to support expansion, but felt the
current permit did not need to be revoked.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested taking the two items separately.
Motion. Moved by gla esley, seconded by Tols oy, to continue Entertainment
Permit 7-01` for 120 days. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES. COMMISSIONERS: CNITIE , EMERICK
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Commissioner Chitiea indicated she voted against the continuance only because
e would prefer to have the item continued for 180 days.
Motion: oved by Blakesley, seconded by Tbl stay, to direct staff to prepare a'
Resolution of Denial without prejudice for Entertainment Permit -Cl for the
December 14, 19 Consent Calendar. Motion carried by the following vote:
YES: C IS'SIC ERS. BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY'
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
M. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13748 - BROCK - The design review of an
a tuna a idg od pray , ova on n detailed site plan for a
previously approved Tentative Tract Map consisting of 10 single family
lots on 28.8 acres of land in the Low Medium District, located north of
Highland Avenue, west of Milliken, south of Banyan, and east of the Deer
Creek Channel - N: 20171-55.'
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steve Shepard, applicant, supported the staff report..
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Chitiea expressed appreciation for the applicant's willingness to
work with the City to make modifications to the design to 'address Design
Review concerns.
Commissioner Slakesley felt the four-car garage look was mitigated by the
design and the width of the driveways at the curb.
Commissioner h i ti ea liked the addition of the bonus space to mitigate the
garage look.
Lion: Moved by Tolsto , seconded by Blakesley to adopt the Resolution
ap roving Design Review for Tentative Tract 13748. Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TO STOP
DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS.- NONE -carried
N. SAPPHIRE TRAIL
Chairman c i el felt that a hash judgment had been grade by not including;
Public Safety Commission input. Therefore, he requested that the item be
continued until after the Public Safety Commission meeting.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that Vickie Jackson, a member of the Trails
Advisory Committee, requested that the item be continued until December 14, in
order to be able to rake a video presentation to the Commission.
Chairman c el opened the public hearing.
Linda Valenti , 6278 Marble Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga referred to a letter she
had from the Public Safety Commission dated November 3, in which they
indicated the Planning Commission was; to address the issue of trail width and
design.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the item was to be considered by the Public
Safety Commission on December 8 and would return to the Planning Commission on
December 14, 1988. He indicated the November 9 minutes reflected that sight
line visibility was a major 'factor in the Planning Commission decision.
Chairman McNiel stated that judgment of the Planning Commission was based on
reaction to the video,` which depicted si h' lines.
otion# Moved b Chitiea, seconded.. by Tolsto , to continue the discussion of
the Sapphire` Trail until December 14, 1988. Motion carried by the following
Y vote:
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S ITI ERI COMMISSIONERS: Y TOLSTOY
DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: ISSN PS: carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PHASINGF. PLAN FOR CONDITIONALUSE PERMIT 88-12 - WESTERN PROPERTIES
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, read the proposed revised language and presented
a site plan labeled Exhibit " " indicating the phasing.
Commissioner Tolstoy requested adding a condition to require issuance of
building permits forMajor-2 and the westerly plaza prior to occupancy of
forI-
r. Buller asked if the Commissioners wanted buildings ,I, , and 8 to be
ready for occupancy or substantially complete prior to occupancy of ajor 1.
Commissioners Tolstoy and Emerick agreed that substantially complete was
satisfactory.
Commissioner 11alesley preferred complete,
Commissioner Tolstoy wanted Phase II to pull building permits prior to Major-1
occupancy.
r» Buller stated staff needed direction from the Planning is ion as to
Nether occupancy of Major-1 depended on pulling building permits for Phase`
11.
Chairman McNiel suggested tying them together and forcing Western Properties
to come back before the Commission for a change.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would vote for the project only if occupancy of
Major-1 as tied to pulling building permits for Major- .
r'. DeMarco suggested requiring plans forMajor-2 prior to occupancy; of or-'
I.
Chairman McNiel stated that plans do not tie down Western Properties. Plans
can be submittedl but the buildings may never be built.
Tom Bond, Architects Pacifica, stated that construction documents are costly
to the applicant, and therefore an applicant wouldn't submit them if they did'
not plan to build.
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rBuller stated, the minutes could reflect that the Commission would
entertain an exception to the required issuance of building permits if the
applicant had shown substantial efforts toward putting Major in line for
construction, perhaps through the review process, plan checking, etc
Commissioner Chitiea stated she was unwilling to keep making modifications.
She wanted to tie the project together as much as possible. She felt the
phasing plan should be denied because she felt the previous phasing plan was
more appropriate.'
Commissioner Blakesley recommended that unless the developer agreed to the
proposed language, the item should be continued or denied.'
r rco agreed to the modifications.
Bring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Lion. Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving the Phasing Plan for Conditional Use Permit 88-12 with modifications
requiring d fic tion and upgrading of the traffic signal at Foothill and
Haven; completion ofHaven/Foothill corner treatment prior to occupancy of
jar-1l substantial construction of buildings -1, and prior to
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occupancy ofiMajor-1; building permit submission of buildings Xand prior to
occupancy ofMajor- substantial construction of buildings S and p and Pads
1, 2, and 3 prior to occupancy of a or- , Major-2 and westerly plaza
completed concurrently as Phase II; and issuance of building permits for
Major-2 and westerly plaza prior to occupancy of alor1Motion carried b
the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, F F I k F , TOLSTOY
DES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
COMMISSION BUSINESS
Brad Buller, City Planner, issued an open invitation to the Commissioners to
join management staff in mo
nthly nth Building Industry s sons a.ti bra lunch
eon he
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on the first Tuesday of every month.
`PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to a December 5, 1988 workshop to
discuss rt tr community development.
Respectfully submitted,
ABra�d So
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Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
November 17, 1988
Chairman McNiel called the November 17, 1988 Adjourned Meeting of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 5:30 P.M. at the Rancho;
Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. Chairman
MdNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
COMMISSIONERS A411NDING. David Bla esle,y, Suzanne' Chi iea, Bruce Emerick,
Larry McNiel
STAFF ATTENDING: Brad Buller,' City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner,
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner
PUBLIC HEARINGS.
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-43 - OLMSTEAD - A
reqUiit f7o e as a moving an s rage usnessn a ease' space of
10,000 square feet within an existing multi-tenant industrial park on 3.8
acres in the General Industrial District (Subarea 4) located at 9734 and
9740 Sixth Street - APN. 209 211-32 and 33. (Continued from November 9,
1988. )
Cynthia Kinse3 ,:�istant Planner, presented the Staff Report.
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Chairman McNlel opened the public hearing.
Art Olmstead, applicant, stated he had read and understood the conditions.
Maureen McKenna, Project Manager for Archibald Center,er
t stated the_ conditions o
were acceptable.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Chitie , seconded by Bla esley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 88-43. Motion carried by the following vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BL ` ESLEY, CHITIEA, EME I K, MCNI L
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT:' COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Chitie , seconded by El k sley, unanimously carried to
adjourn.
:40 P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned
Respectfully submitted,
ASad Rul er
Secretary
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CITY CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION I UTLS
Regular ti rr
November 9, 1988
Chairman c it called the Regular Meeting of the City of RanchoCucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions park
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge ofallegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne hiti a, Bruce
crick, Larry McNiel peter Tltr
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City planner; Darr Coleman, Senior Planner;
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer- Ralph Hanson;
Deputy tits t rn y Steve Hayes,, AsIsistant, Planner;
Brett Horner, Assistant planner; Cynthia Kinser,
Assistant planner; Sett Murphy, Associate planner; Cindy
Norris, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Bill`
Silva,`Deputy City Engineer;
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller,, i ty° Planner, announced December I and December 8 werepotential
dates for a North Etiwanda workshop to discuss densities, trails, grading'
techniques and some architectural designs.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, carried with McNiel and
T l t y abstaining, to approve the minutes of October 12, 1988, as amended.
Motion: v d by Tolstoy, seconded by hiti a, unanimously carried to approve
the minutes of October 26, 1988.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tel t , , carried with Emerick
abstaining, to approve the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of toner 20,
1988.
PUBLIC A I S
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A. VARIANCE 88-24 g & S INVESTMENT GROUP quest to allow local
ray ocate in rout the lots; Within besting
TentativeTract 13851 acres in the the Very Lour Residential
District' (less than 2 dwelling units/acre) located north of Wilson, east
of Canistel Avenue and 'west of the Deer Creek Channel H: 0I11-1 '
and 21.
Cindy Norris, Assistant planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Phillip Nourafchan, General partner of R & S Investment Croup, stated he would
like to carry on the trend set by Deer Creek because this property is the last
parcel in the area and he felt he had a commitment to the residents to
continue the trend.
Ivan Berci , 555 Canitel , Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was in favor of the
variance because -if the request was denied he would have trails both in front
and in back of his house. He also felt that because rear 'trails are not
visible from the street because of block walls, they are more dangerous to the
riders.
Kelly Holiday, 10803 Hillside Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she rides
frequently and trails located behind homes have deteriorated and become
littered with junk. She felt trails in Deer Creek are better maintained;
because they are located in the front, and she granted the `theme continued'.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chit'iea agreed aesthetics would be enhanced by having the trail
effect in front,; but she felt the look could be maintained by additional
landscaping to be maintained by a homeowners ' association. She supported the
Trails Committee recommendation of rear-loaded trails for access for feed,
horse shoeing, and trailer parking and felt safety would be enhanced by not
having horses cross driveways. She also stated that some residents have
responded to the Trails Committee that they did not like the trails in the
front because driveways are sometimes too close together and can be slick,
particularly when Bret.
Commissioner Blakesley preferred trails in the back but did not feel it was
fair to have; trails both in front and in back of some houses. He felt front
trails ;are better maintained. In order to have continuity of the` tract, he
supported the variance.
Commissioner Ere i ck felt it could be better to go with consistency and
continue the Deer Creek look by keeping the trails in front.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he had heard the arguments at the Trails Committee
Meeting and he favored; rear-loaded trails.
Chairman McNiel stated that at Heritage park trails run all through the park
but many equestrians use the street.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated that steel shoes slip on concrete driveways, which
are generally on an incline. Because the street is rougher and not on such an
incline, it is easier for the horses to walk on.
Chairman McNiel stated he would like to continue the Deer Creek theme. He
felt rear trails tend to collect trash and are generally not properly
maintained.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if language could be inserted to insure that
treatment of the cement on the driveway would be such that horses would not
slip. He felt some of the driveways at Deer Creek are not adequately skid-
proof.
Commissioner Blakesley stated there was already language in the Resolution
calling for non-skid texturized paving surface and he suggested it would be
wise to try to keep trail-crossing portions of the driveways as level as
possible.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated the non-skid surface could be approved by
the Trails Advisory Committee.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that Deer Creek lots were larger and therefore
driveways are not so close together.
Chairman cNiel reopened the public hearing to ask Mr. Nourafchan if the
terrain would allow for more level driveways.
Mr. Nourafchan stated the driveways would be constructed as narrowly as
possible and he was sure their engineers could come up with a method of making
the driveways skid proof and as level as possible. He also stated they had
discussed the situation with the Deer Creek builders and the president of the
homeowners association and there had been no reported accidents caused by
horses crossing the driveways.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the driveways would be 24' wide.
Ms. Norris responded that a two-car width is generally 16' .
Ms. Holiday stated she had ridea a blind horse in Deer Creek for the last five
years® She had also seen children canter across the driveways and the only
slipping she had seen had occurred on the grass rather than on the
driveways. She stated she would prefer to cross a driveway than ride on rear
trails, which are quite often littered with glass, nails, etc.
Chairman Mc Niel closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Emerick felt front trails are better maintained than rear trails.
Commissioner Chitiea felt homeowners' associations could be made responsible
for trails maintenance at the rear of lots.
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Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution'
proving Variance - 4 with a modification to require Trails Committee
approval of the non-skid surface treatment. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: uL KESLEY, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: C ITIE , TOLSTOY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: E -carried
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 5-43 - OLMSTEAD
re ues es is a ov ngr an storage us ness `n a ease space of
10,000 square feet within an existing multi tenant industrial park on 3.
acres in the General Industrial District (Subarea 4) located at 9734 an
974U Sixth Strut PN: 209-211-32 and 33.
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant 'Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner lakesley asked if the drive aisle which would be blocked by
trucks was between the front and back buildings.
s Kinser responded that it was.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Maureen McKenna, project Manager for Archibald Center, stated the tenant was a
cyan user. She said the site as zoned many gears ago for large buildings
with truck parking in the back. Curing business hours the five trucks would
be out on the streets making pickups and deliveries. After business hours the
trucks 'would be put in the parking lot at an angle to avoid blocking the
driveways. She stated they had taken a survey of the other tenants and found;
that current tenants only utilize 13 parking spaces during business hours.
The tenants on the end building use the building only for storage.
Commissioner C idea asked where the trucks would be parked after hours.
McKenna Mated they would be in the side areas, parked at an angle.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked for clarification on the parking spaces utilized b
other tenants.
s. McKenna stated the 13 vehicles were personal vehicles of the employees of
the various "tenants. The other; tenants did not have company vehicles parked
in the lot.
Chairman McNiel stated the problem id not appear to be the number of parking:
spaces allotted for the business. However, future tenant changes could affect
the parking situation.
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Art Olmstead, applicant, stated they were the oldest moving and storage
company in the San Gabriel Valley, but they were proving because they found it
difficult to obtain a building which would meet their space needs. He stated
they would be parking their trucks side by side to cut down on the parking
space required and also to prevent anyone from breaking into the vans.
Stephen Wong, building owner, stated he had been attempting to lease the
building since February 1988. He said the applicant chose the building
because it was a free-standing ;building with access on all tour sides. He
felt the moving vans would only affect other tenants with large trucks, and no
other tenants on the parcel had large trues. He felt that oven with all five
trucks parked in the lot, every other tenant would have access to their own
building and to the street.'
d Carey, 64 4 Beryl , Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was a roofing` contractor and
had just finished a roof on the east side of the project. During that job he
worked at the site day and night for 10 days and had no parking problems, as
the lot was very empty.
r. Olmstead stated that storage goes into or out of the building only once or
twice a reek`* He said all goods are palletized and he was a clean tenant.
Commissioner Tol stoy asked :i f there was enough radius for a ° truck to back
into or exit the loading area if cars were parked across the driveway at the
other building.
r. Olmstead stated yes, it would not be necessary for the truck to cross the
middle of the drive aisle in pulling in or 'exiting.
hearing' no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated it was necessary to consider future tenants and also
aisles for emergency vehicles to use.
Commissioner h i ea stated that if .the parking lot was, restrai pee in such a
manner as to not allow the trucks to block the driveways, she would support
the project. She felt it would always be possible to revoke the Conditional
Use Permit if problems developed in the future,
Commissioner Blakesley stated he didn't feel it ' ould be a problem.
Commissioner mer ck supported the project.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, suggested continuing the item to November 30 to
have staff prepare a Resolution of approval .
Chairman McNiel opened; the public hearing.
sa McKenna stated the applicant had received a dU day notice to vacate their
current premises,
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Mrs. Olmstead stated they had been given the notice to vacate because the
landlord did not want to bring the building up to San Dimas City standards.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated it was customary for the Commission to defer
action until they had a formal Resolution to act on. it would be possible for
the Commission to defer this matter to a special meeting to consider the
action.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested deferring action until staff had
time toi pare the Resolution because staff had anticipated denial and had
not considered what conditions would be appropriate for approval .
Chairman McNiel suggested continuing the item to Thursday, November 17 at 5:30
P.M. , at which time the Commissioners would conduct a special meeting prior to
the Design Review Committee meeting.
Mr. Buller stated that the meeting would be held at the Neighborhood Center,
9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. He also stated that if the Conditional
Use Permit was approved at that time, occupancy permits could not be issued
until after the 10-day appeal period.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by To stay, to continue Environmental
Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 88-43 to a special meeting at 5:30 p.m.
on> ovember 17, 1988. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, `CC!LSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-35 - HUGHES
e eye op ens o a conceptual-TFa-sle-F-PT—an or_61OC
cluding specific approval of a 2.9 acre
Phase consisting of t o retailshop buildings of 13,024 square feet and
a service station of 2,187 square feet on land zoned "Village Commercial
Center" located at the northwest corner of Base Line and Victoria Park
Lane - APN: 227-111-28, 34, and 35.
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11838 - HUGHES
D 5-Twoparce-T-s—T5TFFe
Vii-cTo-Fir'aanned Community, located on the northwest corner of Base Line
and Victoria Park Lane - APN: 227-111-28, 34 and 35.
Steve Hayes, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He also mentioned
that additional Planning Conditions 4 through 12 had been added.,
Commissioner Tolstoy asked by drawings were not being presented this evening.
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Commissioner Chi iea felt uncomfortable that those on the residential side of
Design Review would not see the final drawings.
Dan Coleman, Senior planner, stated that the Resolution was worded to require
full planning Commission review of the colored renderings of the storefront
areas®
Commissioner Emerick asked if the parkway width of Victoria park Lane was
being maintained.
. Coleman stated the width would not change - if the median opening move was
approved by the planning Commission and the City Council , the landscaping
would be moved.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim ai;ley, Manager of Victoria, wanted to know by staff did not rant the
median opening proved, He stated it was necessary to move the opening to
provide adequate parking in the tenter.
Geoff Reeslund, Principal of SGPArchitecture, stated he had sent a complete
new set of 'plans and color co ins to the City on October 26. He didn't'
realize they hadn't been received. He thanked staff for their work and
cooperation. He felt the forger internal circulation concerns had been
addressed with the redesigned project.
Commissioner Chitiea asked for a description of the roofing material .
r® Reeslund stated it would be Mato gray concrete tile.
John Potter, Hughes Investments, stated they had held a meeting with di
Bailey and the A.C.T. T.Va . board and had received support for the median'
eve. He stated they had sent a letter offering to dedicate 2,000 square feet
of park land on the corner of the phase II of the shopping center to replace
the 1,728 square feet of the landscaped median which would be lost if the
opening was moved.
r. Coleman showed revised blueprints that had been received.
Margi Goldstein, 6577 Twinspur, Rancho Cucamonga, felt the project had taken a
long time. As a resident she warted the shopping center to be started and she
felt that park land located within the curter would' be more usable than park
laird as a median.
Chairman McNiel stated that park credits were given for the median island, but
it was merely a greenbelt area, not a park.
Fred Deaux, 110,36=Shaw Street, stated moving the park area to the center was a
great idea and he was in favor of moving the median to provide for a better'
traffic flow into the center.
oaring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Chitiea requested that additional finis rations be considered in
the storefront sign area. She felt the rear of the auto center was plain and
needed enhancements. She felt additional arch treatments might be in order.
She liked the idea of moving the drive entrance back from Base Line as far a
possible and supported moving the landscaping to the shopping center as she
thought it would be more usable. With those modifications she supported the
project.
Commissioner Bl,akesley agreed.
Commissioner Emerick wanted more storefront variation (recessed add/or
protruded) and additional Victorian detailing to the top of the wood posts
along the front elevations.
Chairman McNiel stated it grade sense to move the, median island.
Bill Silva, Deputy Civil Engineer, stated the median island linear park
concept was designed by the City Council as an open space greenway.
Therefore, any changes would have to be approved by City Council .
Commissioner Emerick asked if there were any safety or traffic considerations
r Silva responded that moving the opening would add approximately ' to the
distance array from Base Line Road. Although Engineering had not ;looked at
safety specifically, they did not expect a significant turn lane backup for
this center.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated it would be best if the center could be
designed to avoid disturbing the 'existing vegetation 'along the park
Motion: Moved by Ch tiea;, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolutions
approving Environmental Assessment and ondi i onal Use Permit -35' and
Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11838 with modifications to
have revised colored elevations approved by the Planning Commission
incorporating recessed' and/or protruded storefronts, additional architectural '
treatment of the rear elevations of all buildings, and additional Victorian`
detailing the top of the wood poets along the front elevations4 Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: L ESLE , C ITIEA E E IC , MCNIEL, TCLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: C -carried
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Murphy stated that density calculations are based on net area after
dedications for arterial and secondary streets. Because Summit is a collector
road, it should not impact the overall density.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that if Pulsar did not develop
Summit, then Mr. Peterson or another developer would have to wild the street, ''
therefore, it was a moot issue.
r ndreasen stated that Pulsar Development was responsible under' the
proposed layout to build Streets C and C. In order to qualify for
reimbursement from the ustad's,' Pulsar would have to apply to City Council .
Furthermore, even if City Council approved the reimbursement, it would not be
made unless the ustad'�s subdivided their property for development. He stated
that Pulsar had contacted the ustad's to try to reach an agreement regarding
an ingress/egress easement for installation of public utilities.
s ustad stated that Pulsar had never offered her anything for her easement,
and now they were trying to force her to sign.
Chairman McNiel stated that any time streets are developed next to a property,;
the property owner pays for the portion of street that abuts their property.
s ustad stated the developer had first tried to run the street through the
middle of her property and she had allowed ;the compromise of having the street
next to her Property to avoid having the street in the middle.
Wayne Blanton, realtor, stated that the street alignment was decided by the
City. He also stated that he had given the a d's the right to utilize his
property to bring; in their water many years ago. He said he was sorry he had
allowed the ustad's water to cross over his property.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
r, Buller stated the Planning Commission, was currently considering the street
alignment to determine if it was the most ;appropriate layout. He stated that
even if Pulsar had not proposed this development, the ustad's still might'
have ended up with the sae street alignment next to their property.
Ralph Hanson stated that the easement was a private matter between the
easement holder and Pulsar Development.
Commissioner Chitiea asked for clarification of the potential reibmursement;
clause in the Resolution.
r. Buller Mated that the developer had the right to ask City Council to
permit a reimbursement agreement, under which Pulsar 'would recover the cost of
the improvements to the center line of streets C and G upon development of the
Austad property. However, because the Rustad parcel was within the County,
the City had no jurisdiction over whether the County would permit the
reimbursement agreement or not.
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Commissioner Chitiea asked if G Street was located farther east if the Rustad
property could take access off C Street `.here a gall was being proposed, or
would they have to provide some other'means of access.
Buller stated the City would not allow access off C Street.
Bill i t va, Deputy City Engineer, stated that if C Street was eliminated it
would have to be replaced by some other north/south street, which could be
used as a loop street out to C Street. He reaffirmed that the City would not
allow access off C Street, because it is d collectors street. He stated' that
if the Rustad property remained within the County, the developer would be at
the mercy of the County as to whether they would allow reimbursement. If the
Rustad property was annexed to the City prior to subdivision the developer
could request that City Council approve a reimbursement contract.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing to ask hoer mangy proposals had been
worked up regarding the tract layout and street alignments.
r. Andreasen responded that approximately 12 proposals had been presented,
e further Mated that Pulsar Development would go on record that if they
could reach an agreement `ith the astad's on the ingress/egress utilities
easement, Pulsar would not apply for reimbursement of one half of the street
improvement costs.
sRustad stated she felt Pulsar was just using the reimbursement cost issue
as a ploy to get her easements for free.
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Hearing' no further testimony the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner karerick stated he was in favor of keeping the street alignment as
shown on the crap. He felt the developer had worked with the ustad's to build'
the wall the ustad's requested and had avoided encroaching on the Rustad's
property for the strut dedication, and he felt Pulsar had made a good faith
attempt.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the street alignment was the beet design.
Commissioner lakdsley concurred..
Commissioner Chi tiea felt the Planning Commission should not be involved in
the easement problem. She felt C street had been moved north of the Rustad
property and C Street was being installed west of the Rustad property at no
cost to the us 's.
Commissioner Tolsto,y ; felt G Street` would allow good access for future
development of the Rustad property.
Commissioner Chit ea felt it should be on the record that the developer would
give asking for reimbursement.
Commissioner Emerick felt that should be a private matter between the owners.
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Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by, Feick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 1381.E with modification
to allow the developer to request a reimbursement agreement to recover the
cost of the improvements to the center line of streets C and G. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Chairman McNiel stated the appeal process was still available.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that a valid appeal was on record.
Therefore, staff would process the item back to City Council unless they
received a withdrawal of the appeal .
G. IRC k T ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT d-C CITY OF
apter r , o t o nc o
Cu_c_a_m__o_n_g_a_Wu�n1c1pa1 Code permitting the use of on-street parking for model
home saps offices meeting certain criteria (Continued from October 26,
lg .
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report along with a
edification to item (f (1) of the Ordinance to prohibit having resident
homeowners located adjacent to the gated, secured area of the street.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Fred Deaux, 1106 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he felt staff had done
a 'good ;job addressing the previous concerns and he endorsed the amendment as
written.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tol stoyf asked if the concept should be restricted to short cul-
de-sacs.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the entire cul -de-sac would be used for
this purpose, and therefore developers oul d be inclined use onlyshort
cul-de-sacs.
Commissioner Blakesley stated language should' be added to state that the
entire cul-de-sac would be fenced off.
r Commissioner Chitiea stated the parking gate needed to be placed at the
entrance to the street.
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Commissioner Blakesley stated that once development was necessary on the cul-
de-sac 'street, the models would d have to be ;closed.
Dan Coleman, Senior planner, suggested adding language to section fl to
require the entire cul-de-sac be fenced off.
Motion:, oed by Tol sto , seconded by Blakesley,; adopt the Resolution`
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Code Amendment 7 with
modifications to prohibit having residents living in adjacent homes and to
require that the entire cul-de-sac be fenced off. Motion carried by the
following vote
YES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, ITIA EMERICK, MCNIEL, T LSTU
CS: CU ISSIU L S: NONE
SC T- COMMISSIONERS: carried
NEW BUSINESS
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MODIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW5 - 1 - SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY HOSPITAL
e e o ent :o as can e conss ng o square o0
ambulatory health care facility and 82,932square feet of medical offices
on 10 acres of land in the, Mixed Use strict within the Terra Vista'
Planned Community, located at the southeast corner of Milliken Avenue and
Church Street _ AP : 7-I5 -1 and 14.
Steve Hayes, Assistant planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if Design Reviews had approved the metal roof.
r'. Hayes stated that Design Review had requested that the applicant present a
tie roof comparison for Planning Commission consideration.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Ron Mesa, project architect, stated Design Review had requested they look at a
the roof. He stated they looked at a ceramic the roof from the standpoint
of design and aesthetics, maintenance, and 'cost. The weight of the tile would
require a redesign of the structure, which would affect their building
schedule. They felt that by utilizing a ceramic the roof there was a strong
possibility of leaks from o in tiles and their contractor would not
guarantee he would be able` to install a leak-proof roof. They also felt it
would e difficult or impossible to get in to repair the leaks Because the
general streetscape would be glass except from the corner of Church and
Milliken and the the roof would cost an additional $35,OUO, he requested the
Planning Commission allow the metal roof.
Chairman McNiel asked how many square feet of roof would be involved,
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ra Mesa responded approximately 400 square feet.
Coo Bergman, Vice President of Construction for San Antonio Hospital , stated
they felt it would not be worth the amount of money required to improve this
small portion of the building. He stated the hospital would prefer to spend
the money on medical equipment.
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated that buildings are not built with fronts only, but are
built with 360-degree architecture. He stated that standard metal seam roofs
had been discussed at Design Review and the applicant had been told that even
though they had been permitted in the past, they did not leek good and soul
not be allowed in the future.
Commissioner Chit`iea stated the Commission considers that buildings will be
around for a long time. She felt that it would not be appropriate to allow
installation of a type of 'roof that had not been satisfactory even in the
industrial area.
. he felt the applicant should
perhaps find another
on h a'
contractor o could
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install a `leak h rood tale rood. e questioned
blue the roof had been requested.
Chairman McNiel stated that the proposed roof had been a blue standing sea
metal roof, and Design Review had requested it be replaced with blue tile.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to alloy Mr. Mesa to ask what type
of the the Commission'wvould prefer.
Chairman Mc i el felt it should be a roof tile with perhaps a flat surface, not
highly glazed.
r`. Mesa stated that a flat tie is harder to make leak-proof. He said the
owner would have to decide if he could stand the additional cost of the roof.
Baring no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick felt staff could approve the the selected.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Modification to Development Review d -C1 with a modification to
require City Planner approval of a tile roof. Motion carried by the following
vote
YES: COMMISSIONERS: LCSL Y, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TCLSTCY
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ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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COUNCIL REFERRALS
I. SAPPHIRE TRAIL
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Linda Valenti , 6278 Marble Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she felt the staff
report did not cover all the concerns of the residents. She asked why Sheriff
Ingram's October 19 letter was not included. She stated she had heard at the
October 19, 1988 City Council Meeting that Community Use Trails are to be used
not only by equestrians, but also by joggers, pedestrians, bicyclists, and
in bikers. Ms. Valenti then presented a short video depicting trail width
measurements from 7"11" on up to 25 , some overhanging trees, and the view
from a driver's seat. Ms. Valenti felt two issues needed to be addressed -
the width of the trail and safety from impairment of visibility. She stated
the trail in the area measured a`maximum of 8' and was constrained on one side
by a block wall and on the other by the fence. She felt that newer trails are
all 10' , which was a safer width. She felt lowering the fence would help
visibility, but would not make the trail wider. She asked for removal of the
fence for safety of vehicles and riders.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the videos were taken before or after portions
of the fence were removed.
Ms. Valenti confirmed the videos were taken after the fence removal .
Mary Beth Hagedon, 6283 Marble Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated only a small
area was affected and felt the fence should be removed. She stated that the
easements on Celestite and Marble did not go anywhere. She stated there was
only one on, in the tract. She also said that along Demens Channel one side
of the wash is posted for equestrian use and the other side is posted for
pedestrians and bicyclists. She felt it would be proper to remove the trail
fence and place a sidewalk in the area.
Hearing no further 'testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel felt the video depicted a bad situation.
Commissioner Blakesley felt the posts presented a visibility barrier.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated the fence was set back 18" from the
curb.
Commissioner Blakesley had strong concerns for safety. He stated this area
had light equestrian use, but felt it was good to have a fence separating the
trail from the street so horses could not bolt into the street. He fel t
perhaps another type of fence could be used which would not block visibility.
Chairman Mc Niel felt it was important to establish the fact that the area was
going to be an equestrian community and it was necessary to make provisions
for trails.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated that 10' is an ideal width for passable distance,
but ' is possible. One of the major considerations for the fencing was the
large amount of traffic on Sapphire, and the desire to prevent horses from
bolting into the street. She did not see any way to widen the trail because
of the block gall on one side, but felt the overhanging trees could be
trimmed. She stated the City had decided to replace sidewalks with decomposed
granite trails within the entire `equestrian area: and provisions should be made'
for future equestrian use. She felt the ' width, although not ideal , was
adequate and the fence was important to keep horses and pedestrians off the
street.
Commissioner Blakesley stated if a sidewalk was installed, it would force
equestrians onto Sapphire Street.
Commissioner Tolsoy stated that the width of this trail was set a long time
ago. Since that time some trails have been designed wider with planter strips
for visibility. He asked if it would be possible to use Demens Channel as an
alternate trail .
Commissioner Blakesley pointed out that to :get from inside the tract, it would
be necessary to take Sapphire to get to Demens, Channel .
Chairman Mc Niel reopened the public hearing.
s. Valenti stated that the City had a population of 100,000 and not too many
of those people were equestrians. She also felt that many riders are not very
experienced and therefore, an ' wide trail would not be wide enough for the
to pass another horse. She asked if residents could be notified prior to any
future fencing being installed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated it would ;be easier to get residents' input ahead
of time.
Mr. Silva stated that the video depicted a vehicle exiting ;from the trail
between Celestite and Marble. The vehicle was not':exiting from the street.
Some posts and fencing were removed from the Celestite and Sapphire corner and
from the Marble and Sapphire corner.
s. Valenti stated there was implied use of vehicles into the trail because'
driveway curbing is cut into both ends of the trail . The hail is used by
residents having work done in their back yards.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
EBrad Buller, City Planner, felt the access out to Sapphire could be closed off
between Celestite and Marble.
Chairman McNiel felt pedestrian fencing could be installed to give access for
pedestrian and equestrian use.
Commissioner Chitiea asked the reasoning for the d" inset.
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Buller stated it was for safety reasons.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if it would be possible to stripe a bike lane.
r. Buller stated if a bike lane as striped on one side, it would have to be
striped, on both sides. He stated it would be possible to post signs stating
"bike route" on the street, which would possibly direct the bicyclists to the
street, but it would not prohibit them from the trail . He also stated it was'
a County approved tract.
Commissioner Chitiea felt that if it was dangerous for horses to pass within
the enclosed trail , it would be more dangerous for them to step into the
street
Commissioner Tolstoy proposed removing the fence and routing the horses to
Demens Channel to exit the area.
Commissioner Chitiea 'asked if them was access to Demens Channel at the
southern edge.
Otto k outi l , Deputy City planner, stated there was no equestrian trail from
the back of Celestite and Marble to the Demens Channel .
Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt the trail fencing should definitely go
from between Celestite and Marble north on Sapphire.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would prefers not to have a fence.
Commissioner Chitiea disagreed. She felt the fend was important.
Commissioner Blakesley felt the fence would help to avoid traffic accidents
caused by horses bolting into the street.
Chairman McNiel stated he was inclined to agree that the only 'solution seemed
to be removal of the fence
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated he did not agree with switching to a sidewalk, but
id feel the fence should be removed.
rMurphy stated there were other sites in the City that will have this same
problem.
Commissioner Blakesley felt fencing woul work in many situations and it 'would
be a good idea for the Trails Committee to review proposed retrofitting prior
to work being done,
Chairman c iel asked if a short split rail fence would work.
Commissioner dl akesl ey felt other fencing mater al s should be investigated.
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Chairman McNiel stated it was important to keep minds open to other fencing
material s.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the Trails Committee had already recommended
fencing be installed north of Banyan on Sapphire. She felt it should be
further reviewed before installation.
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Motion: Quad b Tolsto , seconded b erick, unanimously carried, to direct
staff t pursue removal of the fence along this section of Sapphire and in the
future have the Trails Committee consider other similar sites before
retrofi tti ng.
DIRECTOR'S PORTS
J. BIKE TRAIL ON VICTORIA AVENUE
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the Trails Committee was unaware of the historic
trees on either Side of the street, and had not intended removing the trees.
They merely wanted to keep bikes off the street for safety reasons because two
schools were located on the strut.
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replacement ordinance.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated they were in the process of looking at the
cost of maintaining windrows and City Council had not taken and action as ,yet.'
Otto Kroutil , Deputy :City Planner, stated the City-wide windrow issue was
separate from this case. This involved a selective palm tree windrow that had
been designated as historic. He did not feel the tree removal and replacement
ordinance would impact this area.
Commissioner Blakesley asked if the bike path could be placed behind the
trees.
' Commissioner Tolsto,y stated he felt the only solution was to crake it a Class
III bike route.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. ;
Jim Frost stated that only the parr treed were an historic landmark and he
asked for clarification of the requirement than striped bike lanes be on both
sides of the street.
Coleman stated that the parr trees were slated as historic and the
eucalyptus windrow was slated for preservation.
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Chairman McNiel stated; the law requires bikers to travel in the same direction'
as traffic. Therefore, they are needed on both sides of the street if they
are installed.
Mr. Frost felt that parking could not be prohibited on either side of the
street. He also stated that most of the sidewalk on Victoria Avenue had been
removed, forcing children walking to and from the school to walk in the
street. He asked if it would be possible to paint a stripe on the street but
allow both bikes and vehicles to use the area. He felt that might, make'
vehicle drivers a little more cognizant of the fact that bikers might be
present.
r. Coleman ;stated that the California Vehicle Code required vehicles to stay
out of a bike lane.
r. Frost asked if a stripe could be painted but not marked as a bike lane, in
effect marking a shoulder, He stated that the area sometimes get heavy fogs
and the striping would help keep drivers on the road
Chairman McNiel stated that in the mountains a stripe is sometimes used to
identify the right side of the lane.
Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that shoulder stripes are
recommended to be used by the Department of Transportation only when there is
no curb i and ;gutter. The intent with curb and gutter is that even without a
sidewalk the pedestrian is to be up on the curb,
Commissioner Emerick stated that if the line was made far enough in for d car
to park to the right, drivers would assume it was another lane.
r`. Frost stated there would not be a sidewalk built until the south side of
the street was developed, which would probably not happen for a long time. He
felt the school would not voluntarily. build a sidewalk.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he did not like a Class 11 bike lane because it
creates a false sense of security. He fel t it ; as best to try to get
everybody off the road except for cars, but that did not appear possible.
Fred Deaux, 11036 Shaw Street, asked why a sidewalk was not being put in. He
felt a sidewalk was more important than a bike lane.
r'e Kroutil stated that curbs and sidewalks are installed as development taken
place in an area. A parcel`map is in process on the east C' of Victoria and
the sidewalk is under construction in that area. The City has a
reconstruction project on the north side where a section is currently being
completed. There is no room on the north .side to put a bike trail . On the
south side with additional dedications, including one from the school
district, perhaps there would be some room. The sidewalk is planned and the
City has the option of paying for it to do be done by providing the funds or
waiting for development occur, e stated this was not aproblem, unique to
this area.
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. Silva stated that a Class III bike route is a warning advisory to
motorists that bicyclists use the area.
Chairman McNiel asked hog much of the street could possibly be built out to a
Class I bike trail.
r routil stated the circulation plan on Etiwanda calls for a 66' right-of-
ay with curb to curb, a local street. The City would have to condemn
recently approved parcel maps and rip; out improvements currently being built
on the north side, or retrofit the south side if the trees are not worth
saving. He asked if Engineering could design a` facility to combine a
pedestrian and bicycle trail within g' or less.
r Coleman stated B' would be needed for -way bike traffic on a Class I '
tail . It would be necessary to add another S' for pedestrian use.
r Silva stated it was not a good idea to combine bicyclists and pedestrians'
without separating the areas.
Chairman McNiel asked the condition of the eucalyptus trees that line the
street adjacent to the elerentry school .
r. Frost stated that only about 1 of them were healthy and the rest should`
probably come down.
Chairman McNiel stated'they should go after a Class I trail .
r. Kroutil stated if a Class I bike trail was installed, they should also
request a sidewalk. However, if the sidewalk was to be placed on the north'
side, it would Crean condemning property from the front yards of ' some
residents.
r. Coleman suggested putting in Class III signs until a Class I could be
constructed.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested having a Class III bike lane posted now and
request that staff bring back a more definitive plan showing sidewalks.
Chairman McNiel stated he would encourage the investigation of the south side
for both a bike lane and a sidewalk.
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no additional Commission business at this time.
PUBLIC C LISTS
There were no public comments at this time.
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ADJOURNMENT
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Moved by
Blakesley, seconded crick, unanimously carried, to adjourn.
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P.M. Planning fission Adjourned to a special meeting at 5:30 P.M. at
Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrowaye, Rancho Cucamonga, to
consider Environmental Assessment and 'Conditional Use Permit `-4 .
Respectfully submitted,
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Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
October 26, 1988
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at Lions Park
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Miki Brett, Associate Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner;
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer; Ralph Hanson; Deputy City Attorney; Steven
Hayes, Assistant Planner; Brett Horner, Assistant
Planner; Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner; Russ Maguire,
City Engineer; Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner; Cindy
Norris, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Alan
Warren, Associate Planner; Chris Wes an, Assistant
Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that Item F from this evening's agenda
had been withdrawn by the applicant. He also stated that the applicant for
Item 0 had requested a continuance.
Mr. Buller announced that on Friday, October 28, there would be a tour of the
civic center construction site.
Mr. Buller announced that the Engineering Department would be holding a
meeting on October 31, 1988 on the San Sevaine Drainage.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 13442 - WATT INLAND EMPIRE - The design review of
bu-i-Fding- el eve tions and--d6-tail-e-d--sit#- OTd-n—fo—e--70- lots within a previously
approved subdivision of 153 lots on 11.84 acres of land within the Low-
Medium District (4-8 dwelling units per acre) of the Victoria Planned
Community located on the north side of Victoria Park Lane, west of Kenyon
Way - APN: 227-541-68 thru 73, 227-581-33 thru 58, 227-591-1 thru 22 and
25 thru 40.
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Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried to adopt
Item A of the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. ST R ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT (MCA) AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
compre ensr+re s u y r en a envronmen a
c aracter s ics and constraints of the General Plan area. As an MEA, the
document will provide a central source of current environmental
Information to assist in identifying long range, area-pride, and cumulative
impacts of individual projects proposed in the General Plan area.
(Continued from September 28, 1988.)
Alan Warren, Associate Planer, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstay asked about the California, Regional Water Quality Control
Board's comments regarding possible loss of wells caused by unacceptable water
unlit He asked what the City could o since it did: not have any
quality. y
jurisdiction over water problems,
rWarren stated the City had contacted Cucamonga County Water District and
supplied them with a copy of the responses for their comments. He stated the
City had asked the Water District if a proper mitigating measure would be to
require that all new developments be hooked up to the sewer system. He stated
the City's response in the EIR is that the City will consult with Cucamonga
County Water District'. The City had not yet received a response from
Cucamonga County Water District.
Commissioner Emerick asked about the California Regional Water Quality Control
Board's letter which stated that ground water wel l s exceeded drinking water
allowable limits for various chemicals. He asked how much imported water was
being used to lower the concentrates. '
Kent Norton, Planning Network, stated that blending was very minimal .` He
stated Cucamonga County Water District had developed a master; plan for water;
and sewer treatment within its ;jurisdiction. He stated that plan addressed
how the District would` meet drinking water quality objectives and it did not
indicate any problem in greeting the standards.
Commissioner Emerick stated he was concerned because the California Regional
Water Quality Control Board's letter stated the water supply already exceeded
allowable limits on two chemicals and he wanted to know how this was being
mitigated.
MrNorton stated there might be isolated problems now, but the plan addresses
how it will be mitigated in the future to bring water quality into acceptable
standards. He said he would clarify with Cucamonga Counter Water District,
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if current General Plan language forced Cucamonga
Water District to supply sewers to all future� development on half acre or
larger lots.
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Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, stated that the current General Plan does not
require sewers, The August 25, 1988, letter from the California Regional
Water Quality Control Board recommended that sewers be required on all new
construction. Mr. Henderson recommended that Cucamonga County Water District,
the permitting authority, should be contacted to see if they concurred.
However, the Planning Commission had ;the right to recommend to City Council
that the General Plan require sewers.
Commissioner Emerick questioned ghat proposed use changes the Department of
Fish and Game referred to in their August 24, 1988 letter.
Mr. Warren responded that they were referring to the difference between the
County and City plans. A chart had a misprint which showed 1,000 units for
the County vs. 8,500 units under the City Plan. The 1,000 figure was
incorrect and did not include total County projected boil out for the Sphere
of Influence area.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Hearing no testimony, the public
hearing was closed.
Chairman Mc Niel asked if any comment had been made to require sewer hookup of
existing structures.
Mir. Henderson stated there had not.
Chairman McN el stated he felt that it should be looked at in the not-too-
distant future even though it would be expensive. He' felt' it was important to
act before fading 'a crisis.
Commissioner Emeri'ck asked i'f the plan could take a look at the water quality
impact of building out the alluvial fan in the Etiwanda area.
Mr.' Henderson stated that the plans currently ;for the Sphere' include water
recharge areas as a flood control mitigation measure. The existing General
Plan tries to preserve natural creek areas wherever possible. These natural
creeks could be used as temporary retention and recharge areas. The water
Quality Control Hoard was going to start requiring the City to monitor some
locations in the future to make 'sure that some mitigation measures are being
taken to improve water quality. Mitigation measures; might include siphoning
off nuisance type water flogs from car washing.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Toltoy, carded, to adopt' the
Resolution recommending approval of Master Environmental Assessment EA and
Environmental' Impact Report (EIR) for the Rancho Cucamonga General Plan
Technical Update. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAkESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOESTOY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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Brad Buller, City planner, stated that staff would pursue development of a
work program item to address sewer installation for all new and existing
development and would report back to the Commission.
C. GENERAL PLAN TECHNICAL UPDATE - CITY OF RANCHO CUC ONOA - The project is
preparation, review, and adop-ti-6-K-ofa Technical Update of the General
Plan consisting of statistical information and implementation measures,
and revisions to the Community Design section of ` the Land Use and
Development Element. (Continued from September 28, 1988. )
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he hoped that the new format would be approved by
Planning Commission and would include new graphics.
Mr. Warren stated the planning Commission was now considering approving the
text and prior to; printing the Planning Commission would have an opportunity
to look at format
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Hearing no comments, the public
hearing was closed.
Lion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Dlakesley, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of the General Plan Technical Update. Motion carried by
the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: DLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ER CK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY'
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT 8-07 - CITY OF
n amen me 11 n f tl e ap er 17 04, of the-1—a6choi'
ucAmonga Municipal Code permitting the use of on-street parking for model
home sales offices meeting certain criteria.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chit ea felt additional temporary landscaping had been requested
and she asked that the requirement be added.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Fred Deau , 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he saw no reason to
make the charge for one developer, as history had shown a great success'i rate
by using off-street parking to avoid traffic problems.
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hearing no further comments, the 'public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerck stated r that if he was a resident in the area he would
like to see the band built ' ut as rapidly as possible, instead of having one
or two building pads used as a parking lot. While building homes on the off-
street parking pads, there would inevitably be parking on :the street..
Chairman McNiel stated he would like to see an ordinance adopted to control
overnight parking for grand openings.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated such a condition could be placed on model
home openings.
stated the William Lyon Company was not building
Dan Coleman senior Planner, ,�' p, y g
out on the final street until all homes were solid.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that she Felt conditions -(f) ( ) and (4) seemed to
control the parking.
Commissioner Blakesley did not feel the proposed ordinance created a' conlict.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the amendment was a good idea.
r Coleman suggested adding a fifth condition to provide for temporary
landscaping in the form of box trees and ground cover within' the designated
parking area to the s i sfacti n of the City Planner.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she would like to see the edges defined with
ground cover.
Commissioner Tol stay stated he felt fencing should be required and they should
be able' to close off the parking ;area at night.
Commissioner Emer ck stated'' he did not see a need for security fencing of the
street.
Bins Maguire, City Engineer, suggested requiring fencing from the beginning of
the cul-de-sac,
Mr. Buller stated some cul-de-sacs are very long streets.
Commissioner Bl akesl ey stated that the intent was to not allow this type of
parking in areas with current residents.
Commissioner Tol toy stated that if a short, unused cul-de-sac was not
available, then the developer would need to use off-street parking.
Mr. Coleman suggested the item be continued to allow staff time to redraft the
ordinance to address the concerns of the Commissioners.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
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Mr Deaux supported reworking the concept as he felt the intent should be more
carefully spelled out.
Nearing; no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitioa, to continue Environmental
Assessment and Development Code Amendment 88-07 to November g, 1988. Motion
carried by the following vote:
YES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, ChiITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
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NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8-14 - ADGER - The
request to eita4lish 15a Bona o ome spices to an existing;
mobile home park on 27.7 acres, located in the Low-Medium Residential
District ( -8 dwelling units per acre) on Ba's , Line Road, 660 feet west of
Haven Avenue - APN : 202-201-63, 51.
Cindy orris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report,
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Nearing no testimony, he closed
the public hearing.
Commissioner Emerick stated that if the application was incomplete, the
Commission could not approve it.
s Norris stated that both the owner and applicant were sent certified
letters ` asking them to respond{ Staff called the applicant on several `
occasions, and the applicant indicated the City should go ahead and deny.
Notion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
denying Environmental 'Assessment and. Conditional Use Permit 88-14. Motion'
carried by the following vote.
AYES: CI? ISSIONERS: BLA .ESLEY, CHITIEA, E E ICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NON -carried
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 88 02 -
0"DUNNUL, ARM7R_GW_,_B9 I GRAM, AND—TAMERS' - A-r-e-quest o imihd the
n us rya pec e an modifying the 16--c—ation of rail spurs on a 131
acre parcel within the Minimum Impact Heavy Industrial Designation'
Subarea g) located on the south side of Arrow Route at Milliken Avenue
AP 229-11-2 .
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Chairman McNiel stated; that because the applicant had withdrawn Environmental
Assessment and Industrial Specific Plan Amendment BB-D , no further action was
necessary.
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT" AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 88-0
, regues o pre-zone approI e acres
of wacan an located a e southwest corner of'Etiwanda Avenue and ' 5th
Street to Lew' Density Residential ( -4 dwelling' units per acre -m APN:
5-Q8 -01.
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 88-03 - AHMANSON
goes approve a eve emen A-4--rii6 _nY for
appro ima e y acres of vacant land located at the southwest corner of
Eti anda Avenue and 25th Strut - APT 5-08 -OI..
iki Brett, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman M Ni'el opened the public hearing. ;
Craig Page, Ahmanson Developments, stated he felt that density was the only
issue. He pointed out that the Melcher project located just south was at the
same Low densitydesignation. He saw no reason' to lower the density from the
3.0 agreed to with MelCher to 2.25 for his development. He wanted a 2.5
density agreed to in the Development Agreement, and ;would possibly lower the
density during the tract review.
Hearing no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel asked: if the Southern California Edison property' had been
included in the plan.
Ms Bratt stated it was separate.
Commissioner Chiiea stated that she felt uncomfortable approving
Development Agreement at a higher density than ghat was really desired.
Commissioner Emerick agreed that if the Commission desired a density of around'
, it was better to have an agreement with a maximum of 2.25 than 2.5.
Chairman McNiel stated that the Commission had requested greenbelt/paseos on
the Melcher development, and they would likely be required for this
development as well .
Commissioner Chi ti ea felt the paseos should be incorporated into the project.
Brad Buller, City Planner, reiterated that the Development Agreement only
established a preference cap, it did not guarantee a certain density.
Commissioner Emerick stated he would like to see an attorney fees provision in
the Development Agreement which would also allow the recovery of costs.
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Moti on: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy to adopt the Resolutions
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Development District
Amendment 8847 and Environmental Assessment and Development Agreement 88-0
with amendment to provide for recovery of costs. Motion carried by the
fol l owing vote
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERIC , MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
DES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: ' COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
8.20 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed.
8. 5 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
I. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 8 -01 - HERITAGE PARK APARTMENTS - A- request by the
o a nd Section 18, Maintenance damn y, 6f an existing Development
Agreement for the senior housing project located on Lomita Court west of
Archibald Avenue - 'APN: 202-151- 4.
J. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 5-01 _ RUDOLPH' HENDRICKSON SENIOR APARTMENTS -
regdes y e i' y amend SRMfi , ain enance gran y, f an
existing development agreement for the senior housing project located on
the wrest side of Amethyst Avenue, north of 19th Street - APN: 201-2 -24.
ii Bratt, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the ; public hearing. Nearing no comments, the public'
hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt Resolutions, approving:
Development agreement 83 01 and Development Agreement 8 -01. Motion carried'
by the following note:
AYES: C OMM ISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOL STOY
DES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENTS COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 8 -04 (PRE-
I"I pre-zone
apprRiffia e y 282 RFii o an oca AT-The northeast corner of 24th
Street (Summit Avenue) and Wardman Bullock Road to Planned Community -
APN: 22 -082-15, 4-27
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L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 88-0 - CARYN COMP W-Trieq-u-e-s-f-lo—o approve a deve I opiinf agreement r th-e--Etiwanda a ands
Planned Community consisting of approximately 56 dwelling units on about
282 ages of vacant land located at the northeast corner of 24th Street
(Summit Avenue) and Ward an Bullock Road - APN: 6-08 _ 6 24- 7.
iki Bratt, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea questioned the listing of fieldstone foundations under
Victorian characteristics.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the characteristics listing was modeled on
the Etiwanda +Specific Plan,
Commissioner Chitiea stated she did not want to allow development of projects
where no native stone was used. She wanted all fieldstone projects to include
some native stone.
Mr. Buller stated the Development Agreement could be modified to require
native stone as part of any project proposing the use of stone. He al so
pointed out that paragraph .302 of the Architectural and Design Guidelines was
meant to be a collective review of the entire project, not tract by tract. He
further stated that the developer was willing to add greenbelt passageways
between the cul-de-sacs to make the San Sevaine open area more accessible.
Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, suggested a staff correction to the
Architectural and Design Guidelines to provide for City 'Planner approval of
landscape and irrigation improvements on the first four phases, which were
being developed under County standards.
Commissioner Emerick asked if there was a condition to require monitoring of
urban runoff;
s. Dratt stated that was in the County approvals and those conditions would
be incorporated into the Development Agreement.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Joe Dilorio, Caryn Company, introduced Bob Shioto and Frank Caldwell of
Standard. Pacific. Company, the builders, and Ray Allen, Engineer, Mr. DiIorio
stated that they were working with Engineering and they would fully improve'
Summit over the San Sevaine wash. He stated that along with Mel Cher and
Ahmanson they were trying to write a North Etiwa'nda plan.
Chairman McNiel stated he felt paseos would add a lot to the development.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel asked if the tubular steel fencing meant wrought iron.
r Buller confirmed that it did,
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Commissioner Emerick requested that a standard clause be added ; regarding
recovery of attorneys' fees and costs.'
Motion: Moved by Chitie , seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolutions
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Development District
Amendment 8-04 (Pre-Zone) and Environmental Assessment and Development
Agreement 88-02 with modifications to ;provide for the use of some native stone
in all -projects using stone, the inc�lusion of greenbelt connections between
cul-de-sacs, ; and the ;provision 'far recovery of at rney's fees and costs.
Lion carried by the following vote;
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLE , CHITIEA, E ERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: ; COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87 33 TUNE - A'
reges or an a perms o a ow a ministrati-Vie--and office uses',
within an existing industrial complex located at 9375 Archibald in the
General Industrial District (Subarea 4) of the Industrial Area Specific
Plan. APN: I0-0 2-47 and 48. (Continued from 'October 12, 1988. )
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Citiea stated the item had been continued' from October 12 in
order to allow the applicant to modify their parking. She wanted to knows if
staff had suggested the applicant utilize compact parking spaces to solve the
parking deficiency.
s. Nissen stated that staff suggested the applicant do a parking study or a'
restriping.
Chairman McNiel stated the Planning Commission had a discussion' regarding,
parking and they were not happy with 35 of the parking being devoted to
compact spaces.
Dart Coleman, Senior Planner, stated there would be a slight decrease in the
number of required spaces if the medical facility were not being used. The
medical ' facility has been operating under old standards. He also pointed out
that the Industrial Specific Plan mandates that 20 to '35% of all required
parking spaces shall be devoted to compact parking spaces
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Greg Ruicka, counsel for the applicant, stated that 'parking was not a problem
at the facility at this time and no problems were anticipated.
Chairman McNiel asked what percentage of parking was normally consumed during
a typical day.
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Mr Ru icka responded that only 30 is presently utilized, but the building
was not` 10C occupied.
Fred beaux, 11036 Shaw Street, asked how many spaces would be provided per
office and how many of those spaces would be compact spaces. he also asked
how parking requirements were determined.
Chairman McNiel stated that based on types of usages, specified parking ratios
are required. The uses being requested calculated to a requirement of 183
spaces. The developer was proposing a layout of 193 spaces.
Hearing no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would; prefer the parking be recalculated to
provide only the required 13 spaces,
Commissioner Blakesley concurred.
Commissioner Chitiea stated there had been a severe parking problem its the
center when a car leasing agency was there. She wanted to be sure the blanket
Conditional Use Permit would not al 1 off a car leasing agency. She also stated
she would like to see the Development Code and Industrial Specific Plan
amended to reduce the number of compact car spaces.
Buller responded that staff would prepare a staff report on compact
parking spaces for Commission consideration.
Commissioner Emerick agreed that he would like to see the parking reduced to
183 spaces and would also like to see the codes amended.
Chairman McNiel stated he was ° opposed to reducingthe number of parking'
spaces.
Mr. Buller pointed out that in this particular project, the compact spaces
would be compact in width only, they would be standard in length.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the whole issue was really the master Conditional
Use Permit. He Mated that because the P pp
project was; approved and built under
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other codes a had a campus-like
layout, he would support the CUP in this
instance,
Commissioner Chitiea stated sh was uncomfortable with the blanket permit.
Commissioner Rlakesley stated he would support the 'project with 183 parking,
spaces.
Commissioner Emerick concurred.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 8 -33 with a
modification to stripe the parking for 183 cars. Notion carried by the
following vote.
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AYES: C ISSIONERS: BLA ESLE , EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOy
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
N. VARIANCE 88- 2 - LEWIS HOMES - A request to increase the maximum height of
free-standing light standardsfrom 15 feet up to 30 feet in Terra Vista
Town Center located on the northeast corner of Foothill Boulevard' and
Haven Avenue in the Community Commercial District of the Terra Vista
Planned Community - APN 1077-4 1-a5.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Tom Bond, Architect Specifica, introduced Ralph Rhea, the lighting engineer
for the project.
r. Rhea distributed copies of several pages from an IES Lighting Handbook.
He stated that lower pales require higher intensity lights, creating glare and
uneven lighting levels with many small focal points, leading to safety and
security problems.: He; stated poles which are taller than the building create
even illumination throughout the parking area, but create an out-of-scale look
to the project. He felt the primary task of lighting was to create even light;
throughout the project so that motorists 'could see children 'moving between
cars and police officers could drive by ;and see what was going on in the
parking lot. Mr. Rhea then presented a slide show depicting lighting at
various shopping centers. Mr. Rhea proposed using taller poles along the main;
drive area with smaller scale fixtures in planters. He said the taller poles
would give the necessary light, so lower wattage lamps could be used in the
smaller poles.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the slides had not shown any parking lots
with canopy-type ;trees. He felt that if the taller pales were used, the
canopy trees would be cut back as they matured to reduce the light
restriction.
r. Rhea stated there had to be a balance between where the trees and the
lights were placed.
Commissioner Tolstoy expressed concern about light shining across the street
from the taller poles.
Mr. Rhea said the lights along the perimeter of the let would be asy etrically
directed in one direction only.
Brad Buller, City 'Planner, asked if they had studied any projects with 15' foot
hooded fixtures.
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°' Rhea stated that hooded lights project funnels of light instead of
allowing even distribution.
r. Bond stated hooded lamps are of a more modern architecture, which would
not fit in with the proposed center.
Ralph DeMarco, Lewis Homes, stated that within Rancho Cucamonga many kinds of
lights could be found. In many centers he felt the lamps in the trees light
up the tree only and do not light the parking lots. He further stated the
Lucky Center had 36 to 40 foot pole lights.
Fred Deau , 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he would like to see
shorter light standards around the trees and then use taller lights to l i ght'
the parking lot.
Hearing no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Cmeri ck felt that with camphor and sycamore trees the dC-feet
light standards would not light the parking lot.
Commissioner Rlakesley stated he had seen sycamore and camphor or trees with
lower lights and he felt that was better.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to do some more research and visit
some sites it person to observe the shadow patterns. He felt the presentation`
had prodded an insight into lighting, which he would like to go out and
verify the impacts.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that residents have commented that the Hughes
Center is good. She found no lighting problems when visiting there at
night. She felt that retaining lighting at the pedestrian level created
better aesthetics.
Chairman McNiel stated he was not comfortable with the higher poles. He felt
low level lighting looked better and had not noticed problems with shadows.
However, he felt that perhaps it should be looked at further.
Commissioner Chitiea stated entry way lighting could be taken care of by
placing lights in trees. She felt that the lighting at the Hughes center was
better than the high pales at the Mer ,yn's center on Mountain.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt the tall lights might not he attractive.
Commissioner Emerick felt the center was not significantly different from
other shopping centers to support the findings for a variance. He stated
that even if he decided the lights should be higher, a variance would not be
an appropriate vehicle. He would instead support a code amendment as a better
solutions
r. Buller suggested that the that the; applicant may wish to perform a
lighting study projecting - and 10-year growth of canopy trees. He felt the
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Commission may Irish to amend Conditional Use Permits to require selective
pruning of trees within parking lots to avoid the severe pruning of trees,
which defeats the intent of requiring canopy trees.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated ;that this >particular center was not a regional or
a neighborhood center, but a town center, and he felt perhaps the lighting
concept could be modified after further research.
Chairman McNiel stated that if the applicant wanted to bring back the variance
after doing a study, it should be fee-free.
r Buller suggested that a field trip be set up for the Commissioners either
individually or at a group, and if the applicant wished, they could submit
further research which could be presented under Director's Reports at a future
ating
Motion: Moved by Ch tiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
denying Variance 88-22. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TC STCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABET: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-10 - DIVERSIFIED The
developmen ot ase o a ne g or od commerc a s opp 'ng center
consisting of two retail buildings totaling 14,800 square feet on 1 .98
acres of land within an approved shopping center in the Neighborhood'
Commercial District, located at the northeast corner of Haven and Highland
Avenues APN: 01_ 1-b5 and 71. (Continued from August 24, 198 )
Chairman McNiel stated that the applicant had requested that the item be
continued until January 5, 1989. He then opened public hearing. Hearing no
comments, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, ; seconed by 8lakesly, to continue Environmental
Assessment and.. Development Review 88-10 to January 25, 1989. Motion carried
by the following vote
AYES: C ISSN ERS; NLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERC , MCNIEL, TLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
BENT; COMMISSIONERS.- NONE carried
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P. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-71 - COMMERCIAL CARRIERS, INC '- An appeal of
e on Ii ions pprova or a 1ng an paving o approximately 12
acres of land for an existing site within the Minimum Impact/Heavy
Industrial District (Subarea g) of the Industrial Specifici 'plan, located
on the south side of Jersey Boulevard between Utica and Vincent Avenue -
APN: 204-143-�7, 8 and 9. (Continued from October 12, 1988)
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Grant Becklund, Civil Engineer for the applicant, stated that Ryder Trucks had
purchased the site in 1985 and had been using the property since that time as
a vehicle maintenance facility. In order to control dust, they last year put
down a 1,/2" layer of gravel and asphalt emulsion. They did not feel it was
fair to rewire them to spend approximately $2 0,000 and lose some of their
parking > area and disrupt their i administrative center because of loss o
parking area just because they had tried to control dust. As the company did
not have the money to do the required improvements, if the Minor Development
Review was denied, they planned to tear up the asphalt.
Chairman McNiel asked for clarification of what had happened to the appeal.
Ms Kinser responded that if the Commission adopted the Resolution approving
the Minor Development Review with its" new conditions, the appeal would be
negated.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that if the Commission approved the Minor
Development Review with its new conditions, the applicant had indicated they
would return the site to its prior condition, and the City` would have no
recourse to force them to meet current standards.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, asked if grading was done at the time
the asphalt was put down and if the yard had previously been used for vehicle
storage.
Mr. Becklund stated the yard had always been used for vehicle storage and
minor grading was done in fader to provide for drainage. In addition, two
concrete structure footings were removed.
Commissioner Emerick stated that it was clear from the Development; Code' that
this project would require a Minor Development Review, and he supported the
recommendation of staff.
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applicant' to stop using the lot for storage e ,if the asphalt was torn up.
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Mr' Buller responded that if there was a period of 180 days of non-storagei
use, then the applicant could be forced to cease using; the lot for a' non-
conforming use.
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r eckland stated that it would only cost $40,000 to tear out the asphalt as
opposed to the $250,000 to perform the changes being required in the Minor
Development Review. As this property was not being used to its ultimate use
and would probably be developed in about five years, they felt they would be
throwing away the $250,000. He stated that when Ryder bought the ;parcel in
1985 they submitted a Minor Development Review, but they were told by Planning
that there were no requirements to upgrade, as the property was a conforming
use at the time. He stated that the City recently told ham that if they tear
out the paving, they would apply to the County ;agricultural Department to get '
a permit to put down emulsion to control the dust.
Hearing no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Minor Development Review 87-71. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BCAKESCEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLS1"CY
GCS. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
Q. ` ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 85-14 - NK ARCHITECTS -
e eve opmerr o ` an automotive and light truck—re-pa-ir truck—re—pa—sr center totaling
33,238 square feet on 2.8 acres of land in the General Industrial District
(Subarea 3) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan located at the northwest
corner of Archibald Avenue and 8th' Street, - AP 2 g-031-7 .
Steven Hayes, Assistant Planner, <presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea asked to see the color sample board. She asked if the
pink color had been discussed.
Chairman Mc Niel opened ,the public hearing.
Greg Si onoff, NK Architects, stated he wanted to clarify that items 2, 3 and
4 of the staff report had already been accomplished.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the parcels were individually owned, or under'
single ownership.
r. Sa onoff confi med that it was single ownership.
Prod Deaux, 11036 Shaw Street, asked if the tenants were already lined up He
expressed concern with the quality of 'businesses, amount of business turnover,
lot maintenance, and local traffic impacts:. He stated the parking lot should'
be made of concrete, as asphalt would tend to look shoddy from oil leaks.
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r. Simonoff stated they were proposing a concrete parking lot surface. He
indicated they designed the vehicular bags to fade the back of the project, so
people working on cars; would be screened from view. Buildings E and F were
designed' for high-end use and they were looking for a variety of automotive-
related businesses+ including tire stores, transmissions, window tinting, etc
Mr.i Deaux stated that bigger-name stores would lead to less turnover and he
wanted the City to control the tenants.
Chairman McNiel stated that the rents on Archibald would d eliminate a sizeable
segment of potential tenants.
Hearing no further comments, the public hewing was closed.:
Commissioner Chitea felt that the playa area concerns had been addressed.
She wanted a' modification ofthe colors to delete the pink and suggested
bringing the color approval back through Design Reviews on a Consent Calendar
basis.
Chairman McNiel asked if additional seating could be provided at other spots
in the project.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested adding conditions requiring concrete
parking surfaces, maintenance of the parking lot, and development of tree
maintenance criteria, encouraging natural growth characteristics.
Lion: Moved by Tolstay, seconded by Chit%ea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 8 -1 with
modifications requiring Design Review approval; of color, concrete parking
surface, maintenance of the parking lot, additional bench seating, and
development of tree maintenance criteria. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTQY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT- COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Motion; Moved by Nlakesley, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
continue the meeting beyond 11:00 P.M.
R. MODIFICATION TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-04 CARNEY-THEODOROU
rc ec ura rev si ons woo ree ry ui i ngs w-ith-in an approved
11.26 acre Master' Plan development consisting of 8 buildings totaling
165,700 square feet in the Industrial Park and Haven Avenue Overlay'
Districts, located at the southeast corner of Haven Avenue and Arrow Route
- APN: 09-14 -17
Planning Commission Minutes -1 - October 26,' 198
Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea asked for clarification on ghat was being modified.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Cecil Carney, project architect, provide a color drawing and a more detailed
drawing of the building facade. He indicated they were attempting to achieve
a granite slab look instead of a tile look. He stated they had change the
building angle because it would !open better to the street and would be more
visible. By moving the entrance into the plaza area, it eliminated the wind
concern and allowed for easier division of the building for tenant use.
Nearing no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she liked the plaza opening and liked the look of
the angles.
Commissioner Blakesley felt it was a gorgeous project.
Commissioner Emerick concurred.
Lion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Rlakesley, to adopt the Resolution for
Modification to Development Review 88-04. otion carried by the following
vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RLA ESLEY,, CHITIEA,' ER CK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NON
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
S. POLICIES REGARDING TRAIL ACCESS AND CORRAL SIZE (Oral Report)
Can Coleman, Senior Planner-presented the staff report. He stated the Trails
Committee proposed the Resolution to make 'certain that developers within the
Equestrian Overlay District 'provide a minimum corral area and access from the
corral to the trail area. He stated the Resolution did not require the
developers to install the corral , merely to leave the room on the site plans.
Chairman McNiel stated that many people who buy homes in the area do not
intend to own horses. He wanted to know if this would prohibit a homeowner
from using the area for other uses.
r. Coleman stated it would not.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that some developments have been designed without
adequate room for hors.
Planning Commission Minutes -18® October 26, 1988
` i ssi over Chi ti ea felt the Resolution would force el r plot houses
in such a wad as to afford room for horses. She also requested that the
Resolution be modified to reflect the desire of the Trails o f ttee to
provide a 24' x 24' corral area.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea seconded by Tolstdy, to adopt the Resolution
Establishing Policies Regarding Trail Access and Corral Size with a
modification to provide for 4' x 24' corrals. Motion carried by the
following vote
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA, EMER C , MCN1E , TOLSTOY
NOES. CO IS IONERS: NONE`
ABSENT: CO ISSIONERS: NONE` carried
COMMISSION BUSINESS
At the request of Commissioner Blakesley, grad Roller, City Planner, discussed
the City Council action approving the applicant's appeal regarding a metal
roof at the Thomas House site. Mr. Buller* stated the applicant had told the
City Council ` that he had not received. adequate feedback during the Design
Review phase that a mewl roof would not be approved. He also showed pictures
of other buildings in the City with a 'metal roof. City Council believed that
the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan al 1 owed metal roofs and could not 'find
dint reason to deny the appeal .
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this 'time.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by McNiel , seconded by Nlaesley, unanimously carried, to adjourn.
11:50 P.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
A
grad Bul'l er
Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes -19- October 26, 1988
CITY 4F RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
I October 20, 1988
Planning Commission Workshop
Terra Vista Town Centers Sign Program
Chairman McNiel opened the meeting at 9 DU P.M. at the Rancho Cucamonga
Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga.
COMMISSIONERS ATTENDING: Larry McNiel , Suzanne Cnitiea, David Blakesle ,
Peter Tolstoy
STAFF ATTENDING: Brad Buller, City Planner, Dan Coleman, SeniorPlanner; Otto
routil , Deputy City Planner'
Ralph DeMarco, Lewis Homes, introduced the project architect who developed the
sign program.
Tom Bond, Architect's Pacifica, presented a slide show and an overview of the
sign program.
The Commission discussed the different levels of signs and gave the following
direction to the applicant.
1. ` The concept of the site identification signs was acceptable with the
following modifications:`
a. Reduce the scale and massing of the structures.
b. Delete the theater marquee and include name only.
c. Provide backlit metal letters for major tenant names.
d. Investigate alternative roof materials, such as tile.
. The maximum height for major tenant retail wall signs should be 4' , which
is proportionate with building scale. In addition each major tenant will
have their nano prominently displayed along Foothill and Haven on the site
identification sigh.
3. The maximum height for sub-major tenant retail wall signs should be ' .
4. The 1 maximum height for shop/financial wall signs is acceptable.
S. The colors for the wall signs should' be aged, blue, and white (delete
green) * The applicant should prepare a rendering illustrating 'how these '
colors will integrate with the architecture and building colors. '
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. The ` concept of allowing tenants to use any style of lettering was
acceptable.
7. Restaurant monument signs should be consistent with the architecture of
the building, than is, :consistent with the architectural theme for the
tenter.
. Eliminate theater marquee signs, except in the theater court area.
The meeting concluded at 1 :dU p.M9.
Respectfullysubmitted,
ii
Brad !01 r
Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes October 2U, 1988
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regul ar Meei ng
October 1 , 1988
Vice-Chairman Chitiea called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California, Vice Chairman Chitiea then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blake ley, Suzanne Ch tiea, Bruce
Emerick,
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstay
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer, Ralph Hanson; Deputy City Attorney; Brett
Horner, Assistant Planner; Russ Maguire, City ; Engineer;
Karen McGuire-Emery, Associate Park Planner; Scott '
Murphy, Associate Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant
Planner, Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Bill .Silva, Deputy City
Engineer; due Stoffa Associate Civil Engineer; Chris '
Westman, Assistant Planner
ANNOUNCEMENT
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that this evening's meeting would adjourn '
to an October 20, 1988 workshop following) Design Review to discuss the Sign
Program for the Town Center project at the northwest corner of Foothill
Boulevard and Haven Avenue.
Mr. Buller also announced that the second Planning Commission meeting in
November would be held on November 30, 1988, instead of the previous scheduled
November 23, 1988 meeting.
r* Buller suggested that the Commissioners, it like to address Items k and
d at the start of the meeting, as the applicants for those two 'items had;
requested that the items be continued. He also suggested that they consider
moving Item I up because it was a companion item to a Resolution heard at the
last meeting, and public testimony had been taken at the last meeting;
Planning Commission Minutes -I- October 1 , 1988
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, carried with Emerick
abstaining to approve the minutes of September 28, 1988, amended,
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-22 - ALLSTATE+ ECYCLING
SERVICE eve opm nt o' an office an ware cuss u nng o a Ong
,OUUsquare feet on 1.7 acres of land in the Heavy Industrial District
(Subarea 15) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on the south
side of Whittram avenue, east of Pecan Avenue - APN» -192 10.
B. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 13440 - RHOADES DEVELOPMENT - Design review of
ui Ong a evations- ana di5iliae p an for a previously approved tract
map consisting of 111 single family lots on 24 acres of land in the Low-
Medium Density Residential District ( -8 dwelling units per acre) within'
the Victoria Planned Community, located on the northeast darner of Kenyon
Way and Dark Drive - AP` : 27-011-67.
C. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 12659 - NEWTON REALTY - A residential `
su v stop o s ng a family lotsa 3 co on d, s on 67.67 acres s of
land in the Very Low Residential District (1-2 dwelling units per acre) of;
the Etiwna !Specific Plan, located at the southwest corner of Etiwanda'
Avenue and 24th Street - APN 225-011-35.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by B akesley, carried to adopt Items A
through of the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-33 TURNER A
request' or a an a an office uses
within an existing industrial complex located at 9375 Archibald in the
General Industrial District (Subarea 4) of the Industrial Area Specific
Plan. APN: 210 0 2-47 and 48.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Motion, Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesl'ey, to continue Environmental
Assessment and Conditional ` Use Permit 87-33 to October 26,` 1988. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL,, TOLSTOY -carried
Planning Commission Minutes -2- October 12, 1988
K. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-71 - ''COMMERCIALCARRIERS, INC - An appeal of
the
Co pprova or a gra Ong an paving approximately 12
acres of land for an existing site within the Minimum Impact/Heavy
Industrial Specific: Plan (Subarea ), located on the south side ;of Jersey
Boulevard between Utica and Vincent Avenue - APN: 209-1 - , 8, and 9.
(Continued from September 14, 1988
Vice-Chairman Chi ti ea opened the public hearing.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, to continue Miner
Development Review 7- 1 to October 1988. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE>
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLST4Y -carried
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 88-07 -
ques o a d s e- o is oria
o un an an Use p, located on the south side' of Highland Road at
Milliken Avenue on 9.3 acres to the west of Milliken and 12.9 acres to the
east of Milliken. The request proposes reducing the Medium High
Residential designation (14- 4 dwelling units per ' acre) to a Medium
Residential designation 8-14 dwelling units per acre) and switching the
designation of the two sites to Neighborhood Commercial on the southeast'
comer and Medium Residential on the southwest corner - APN: 27-011-22'
and 202- 11-48.
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Fred Oeux, 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, asked if the item would be
heard at the City Council Meeting on October 19 1988.
Buller responded that City Council was scheduled to consider the Victoria
Mr'. Bul y
p .
public
°' 19 9BB. However, �f extensive u
Community Plan Amendment on October , � P
testimony was given this evening, it mould be the recommendation of staff that
the public hearing at City Council be continued until the City Council could
receive the approved minutes of this evening's meeting.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the William Lyon Company had proposed the switch
for economic reasons.
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Mr. Buller stated that during staff review of the preliminary site plan on the
g.3 acre site, staff gave feedback to the William Lyon Co, that the proposed
plan would not be approved because of circulation and site constraint '
issues. The designer believed a 'larger parcel would Allow them to develop the
type of shopping center needed for the Community.
Commissioner Emerick asked what the primary concerns were that the residents
had expressed.
r. Buller stated that they expressed concern with the impacts of density,
concerns of rental vs for-sale homes schools, density transitions, and ;good
faith of the developer in sticking with their plans as originally proposed to
the City.
Commissioner Emerick stated the switch would generate fewer new residents and
in` fact fewer students. He also felt the switch would be positive because o
increased commercial taxes.
r. Buller explained in response to a question from Mr. Emerick, that Milliken
Avenue is a school district boundary. Any new housing can the west side of
Milliken will be part of the Alta Loma.: School District.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he supported the switch because it decreased the
overall population density and the easterly parcel offered greater
opportunities for buffering the commercial development from adjoining
properties.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she opposed the switch because of the strong
concerns raised by the homeowners. She stated from a technical standpoint she
felt the switch was a superior planning solution, but not so superior that it
was worth upsetting the neighbors.
Motion: Moved by Blakesl y, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Victoria Community Flan
Amendment BB 0 . Motion carried ;by the following vote
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EMERIC
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHI IEA
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNI`EL, TCLSTCY -carried
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11852 _ BARTON - A-
su 1vision o -Acres-' of- an n e parcels intbe eneral
Industrial District (Subarea ) , located east ` of Utica Avenue,
approximately 300 feet south of Arrow Route - AFN; 0 -14 . 4.
Joe Stoffa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chaff man Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Planning Commission Minutes -4 October 1 , 1988
Dale Frisby, representing Barton Development, questioned why they were being
asked to develop both sides of Utica because >there was already a project
underway to the west, and they were also being asked to construct both sides
of Utica. He also wanted to know why he had to have a construction bond when
the other property was way ahead; of his in the construction stage* He asked
for clarification regarding; construction of improvements if they ;developed
only portions of the parcel adjacent to another street.
Ha rye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that they would have to 'construct
improvements ; on Mica` and curb, pavement and gutter on all streets when
construction started. Sidewalk and parkway landscaping could be deferred
until development. In order to record the map they would have to enter into a '
standard improvement agreement, which would require ''bonding for improvements
and their completion within one year.
r Frisby asked if they could somehow phase in the improvements.
Mr. Hanson stated he could do a phased parcel map.
Mr.. Frisby distributed copies of several pages of the Industrial Specific Plan
and stated it was 'currently being interpreted to require all streets to have a
66 foot right of way. He felt cul-de-sacs should be allowed to have a 57 foot
right of way to avoid reducing the size of certain lots.
Mr. Hanson responded than the Industrial Specific Plan was modified to
increase road width from 54+ feet to 66 feet to ` accommodate parkways adjacent'
to the sidewalks*
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated the drawing included with Mr. Frisby's `
presentation was not the correct exhibit to show required street rights-of-way
and that the ISP called for all local '`industrial struts to be 66 feet.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing i was closed.
Vice-Chairman Chi ti ea questioned if the Planning Commission had the authority
to change the right-of-way requirement.
Ralph Hanson, deputy City Attorney, responded that it would take an amendment
to the ISP,
Rarrye Hanson stated that,; to his knowledge, the property owner across the
street on Utica had not already bonded for the street improvements. He stated
that the City normally conditions both developments to improve the street, and
then has the second developer reimburse the first developer for one half of
the cost.
Motion: Moved by glakesley, seconded by Emerick, ; adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11852. Motion
carried by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMEPICk
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, T LSTCY -carried
Et MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL ;USE PERMIT 87- - CONTINENTAL HEALTH - The
UiW5Vmint of a 4 building a ica o ice comp atotaling 197,000 square
feet on 4 acres of land in Industrial Park District (Subarea 7) , located
west of White Oak Avenue at Spruce Avenue - APN: - 5 - 5.
Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff' report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if architectural drawings had been submitted.
r Wes an responded that the changes being considered tonight were to the
building footprints, not the architecture. The architecture had been reviewed
by the Design Review Committee in concept and would be subject to City Planner
approval .
Vice-Chairman Chi tiea asked what types of amenities were being added if the ;
plaza will also function as an emergency access.,
Brad Buller, City Planner, ; responded that the plaza area would be used as
access until Phase II was built and the plaza design would be reviewed prior
o devel opment.
Vide-Chairman Chitiea opened the 'public hearing.
Charles Terry, architect for the applicant, stated he was available to answer
any questions.
Vice-Chairman Chiiea asked the timeframe For the development of the property
to the west.
r. Terry stated they did not have a timeframe on the western portion, but
they were trying to move rapidly on the eastern portion, as it was fully'
leased.
Commissioner Blakesley asked what the separation would be between ' the plaza
area and the service entrance.
r. Terry stated they planned a IS-foot high wall to hide service trucks and
mask sound. They; planned the wall to match the architecture and be softened
with. trees. They also planned to create a fountain in the plaza area to help,
mitigate truck noise.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Bl akesl ey stated he would like to see the details of the
arc hi tectu re.
'
Vice-Chairman Chi iea expressed concern about developing only half of the
plaza and no timeframe for completion. She also disliked having no focal
point until the plaza' was completed. She expressed concern that ` the wall
would not block out the noise` sufficiently and felt uncomfortable with
approving a footprint without looking at the building design.
Mr. Buller stated that only concepts were being considered and the design
could go back through Design Review and back to the Commission on a Consent
Calendar basis if the Commissioners so desired.
Vice-Chairman Chi ti ea stated; she would like the minutes to reflect that if the
loading area was adjacent to the plaza, a substantial water element would be
required to mask the sound.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Modification to Conditional Use Permit 87-1 . Motion carried by the
following vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLSTOY -carried
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 14063 - AYOUB The
eve o en o up axes on 0.814 acres of--Ian 1—h—WeWdium esidential
District (8-14 dwelling units per ac re) , located east of Hellman Avenue
and north of 19th Street - APN: 01- -12
Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, presented the 'staff report.
Commissioner Emerick asked if proposed elevations had gone through Design
Review. ; He stated they still appeared to present a mirror image, giving a
multiple-family-residence look.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea pointed out that the color had been changed to white to
a colonial feel i .n
giveg
Commissioner E rick felt there could be more variations of the architecture.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the ,public hearing.
Richard Ayoub, applicant, stated they had made the changes to the
elevations. He indicated the landscaping had ,been changed to provide brick
pavers at driveway entrances and showed the new drawings. '
Vide-Chaff an .Chitiea questioned'where the textured paving would be placed.
Planning Commission Minutes -7- October 1 , 1988
The applicant questioned if he had to pay full fees under for future
undergrdunding of utilities on the project aide of Hellman Avenue.
Ba rye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, clarified that he would and that the
City Council had recently backed that practice.
Vice-Chairman C itiea indicated the applicant had the right to appeal the fees
to City Council .
Nearing no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Vice-Chairman Chi i a indicated the project had undergone considerable design
changes to overcome the technical problems in the original design.
Commissioner glakesley stated he felt it was a nice project and he would '
support it.
Commissioner Emerick pointed out that the decrease in density from 9 to 4
would be better for the neighborhood.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 14063. Motion carried
by the following vote:
AYES® COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERICK
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NINE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TCL Y -carded
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND WESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 1 851 - R & S
residenflil i0a5iii6h an esTgrr review O
sing aT-a-mi-FY—Tots on 38.92 acres of land in the Very Low Density
Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located east
of existing Tract 9582-1, west of Deer Creek Channel and north` of Wilson;
Avenue - APN.-2C1- 21-18 and 21.
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Co issi'oner Emerick asked if Community trails were currently located in front
of lots in the current Deer Creek tract.
Can Coleman, Senior Planner, confirmed that they were, and that a variance
would be needed to allow trails on this tract to be located in the front of
lots.
Commissioner Emerick asked if there was a difference in lot size between the
proposed development and Deer Creek.
Planning Commission Minutes -8- October 1 , 1988
Ms. Norris indicated that the lots were similar in size to Deer Creek.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Philip ;ourafchan General Partner of R & S Investment Croup, indicated the
only item of concern was the trails. He stated this parcel was the only
property available between Haven and Deer Creek Channel . They had been asked
by surrounding homeowners and the City to keep the development in conformance
with Deer Creek* They had ;designed the trails to be in front; of the houses
and could not understand why staff was requiring thews to be moved to the back
on this small tract. He stated that during a neighborhood meeting,
surrounding homeowners had opposed placing the trails in back because of lack
of visibility and the increased likelihood of dumping on the trails. He
stated that staff had voiced concern with front-loaded hails because horses
have to cross over concrete, and they were willing to crake the driveways as
narrow as possible so horses would not have to cross much concrete.
Commissioner Emerick asked if there was enough room in front of the lots to
provide for 10 foot trails.
Mr* Nourafchan responded that there was and they had designed smaller houses
for the smaller lots.
Bruce Wilcox , Hillside Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had seen trails in
back of homes and they become dumping grounds. He reiterated that neighbors
would like to see continuity with Deer Creek and have the trails in front.
Mr lcher requested clarification that ' `race Map Condition #8 ' would be
waived if the City Council did not approve reimbursement from systems
development fees.
Hearing no further testimony, the public hearing was dosed.
Earrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, suggested adding ai statement to
Condition #8 to waive the condition if i ' ursement was not approved.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if the City Council did not agree to
reimbursement, how the bridge would be constructed.
r Hanson responded that a condition could be placed on a future project or
the bridge could be completed as a City project*
Commissioner Emerick stated that the Condition called for one structure,
however the Trails Committee had requested two separate bridges.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, responded that the crossing would probably be a
box culvert rather than a bridge, and they would maintain the same separation
across the culvert as is on the street. He ;requested that the Commission
specify how much separation was needed.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea pointed out that flexibility would be good.
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Commissioner Blakesley pointed out that if the trail was placed in back of the
lots, current homeowners to the west' would have trails both front and back.
e stated he would support having the trails in front in order to maintain
consistency.
Commissioner Emerick felt that on smaller lots having the trails in front adds
aesthetically without detracting from the back.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea felt the same aesthetic look could be achieved by adding
additional landscaping to the front of the lots. She supported the Trails
Committee's desire to have the trails in back because of the frequency of
crossing driveways and the desire to have a rear yard service area for horse
trailers and feed deliveries. She further asked hew a ' variance requesting
front-loaded trails should be handled.
r Coleman suggested adding a standard condition that approval of the tract
was granted subject to the approval of a variance to allow front-loaded'
trails.
Commissioner glakesley liked the idea because it would allow the Commission
another chance to look at the plans.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated she would like the project conditioned to provide''
for rear-loaded trails and landscaping in the front to be maintained by a
homeowners' association if the variance was not approved.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, responded that the tract crap cannot be
approved without the variance.
Commissioner Rlakesley asked about the trees. He stated he would be in favor';
of maintaining consistency with the trees currently in Deer Creek.
Motion: Moved by Blakesle , seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution to
approve Vesting Tentative Tract 13851 with the following modifications.
approval shall not be considered final until an application for a variance for
front-loaded trails has been acted upon by the planning Commission, that tree
plantings be consistent with the Deer Creek tract, and the wavier of the
condition to construct the Wilson Avenue crossing of Deer Creek i
reimbursement was denied by City Council . Motion 'carried by the following
vote.
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: L ESLEY, CHITIEA, E E ICK
DES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NIE , T LSTCY -carried
Planning Commission Minutes _10- October 12, 1988`
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13877 - JOHNS - A
residential su Nvi on' an esign reVi sing am on
18.01 acres of land in the Very Low Density residential district (less
than 2 dwelling units per acre), located north of Wilson, east of Hermosa,
south of Hillside, and west of Mayberry Avenue - APN: .1-111- , 11, 13,
and 32. Associated with this project is Tree Removal Permit -5 .
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the ;staff report and mentioned a
proposed change in the Resolution to indicate that Tentative Tract Items #6
and #7 would receive credit towards the storm drain fees as part of the Master
Plan of Storm Drains.
Commissioner Emerick requested clarification on the type of rock to be used.
s. Norris confirmed that it would be rocks from the Schowalter Rock pile.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Prank Johnson, applicant., stated he would be glad to answer questions.
Jinn Schneider, 10320 Rancho, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he lived directly across
the street from one of the proposed gates. He felt the gate would cause
considerable traffic and noise because of the gate mechanics. He also stated
he had lived in the area for g years and had never seen any trees blow down.
Mr. Johnson stated the gate mechanics are silent. They plan to use a card
activated electronically operated rolling gate.
Hearing no further testimony, Vice-Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing. '
Commissioner Blakesley commented that he liked the materials being used on the
facade and felt it was a nice project.
Commissioner Emerick stated he was impressed with the architecture.
Vice-Chairman Chit.iea felt the brick veneer as presented was substantially
better than what was originally proposed. She stated she was personally
opposed to gated projects, as she felt they were exclusionary and gave the
impression the greater community was less desirable. She further felt that
gated communities are resented by others.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, pointed out that the Development Code
rewires gates when private streets are constructed. The project called for
40 foot wide streets and if the streets were to be public, the streets would
have to be widened..
Commissioner Blakesley, echoed the comments of disliking gated communities, but
did not like the idea of forcing the project back to square one. He felt it
was not an easy site to work with because of the water tank in the muddle'.
Commissioner Emerick suggested drawing the line on gated communities after
this development.'
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Mr Huller painted out that the property to the south might also be better
designed as a gated community.
Vice-Chas man Chitiea felt that as the project had progressed so far, it would
not be appropriate to deny it. She pointed out however, that it was a shame
to hide such nice architecture from the rest of the community.
Motion: Moved by Slesle , seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Tentative Tract 13877, as modified by staff. Motion carried by the
following vote:
K T ERI K
COMMISSIONERS: ESLEY CHI IEA
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLST -carried
R.SS P.M. Planning Commission Recessed
9:10 P.M. Planning Commission Reconvened
NEW BUSINESS;
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -31 - DICKER-W RMINOTON
e gn 'revs ewr o s a pan an eva ,ons T or 'a , square foo
retail building (Pad "E ) within the approved Terra Vista Village Shopping
Center, located in the Neighborhood Commercial District located at the
northeast corner of Haven avenue and Rase Line Road N. 202- 013 .
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing. Hearing no testimony, the
public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he felt the whole project was nice.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea felt that so long as; the design details were consistent
with the rest of the center, the project t would be good.
Motion: Moved by BlEesley, seconded by Emerick to adopt the Resolution
approving Development Review RS- 1. Motion carried by the following vote:
YES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, T LSTOY carried
Planning Commission Minutes -12- October 12, '1988
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS:
M. 115E DETERMINATION 8-03 - SAN ANTONIO HOSPITAL
Scutt Murphy Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chities opened the public hearing As there was no testimony,
the public hearing was closed.
Vice-Chairman Chi ti ea stated she had been a member of the Foothill Corridor
Committee and she `'felt` this proposal was consistent with the intended uses.
Lion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Use Determination 8-03. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLAMESLEY, OHITIEA, E ERIO
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:IONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLSTOY -carried
N. REVIEW OF THE CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN: FOR THE "VICTORIA VINEYARDS
PARK—
KarenMcGuire-Emery, Associate Park Planner`, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Emerick stated that because he had two small children, he goes to
parks frequently. He remarked that basketball courts at other parks are
always fully utilized, and he would like to see two basketball courts
installed in the Victoria Vineyards South Park.
s. McGuire-Emery' stated it would be difficult to add a second basketball
court on this 5-acre site. She indicated that other park facilities are being
retrofitted to add basketball courts.
Commissioner Emerick asked about the sand volleyball court and the exercise
courts.
sMcGuire-Emery stated they had received comments at the Parks and
Recreation Commission Meeting that those two amenities are highly used and
appreciated
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Coinmissioner Emerick asked about drainage problems in some parks.
sMcGuire-Emery stated that they are trying to address the drainage
problems.
Commissioner Emerick pointed out that in many cases tops are missing from
plastic playground equipment at other parks.
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. McGuire-Emery responded that manufacturers are now riveting plastic tops
in place.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated there quite ;often is no shade in tot-lot l air
areas, and therefore on warm days the equipment is unusable until sundown.
She felt an effort should be made to place trees to shade the equipment. She
also felt shade should be provided for some of the seating around the tot-lot
and that the seating should provide a view of the entire tot-lot.
Commissioner Blakesley indicated he liked the layout of the park, which gave
the impression of a large, grassy ballfield, rather than a parking lot in the
view from the street. '!
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that locating the park on a corner opened up the
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area, which she felt was appropriate.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea further stated she wanted to again reiterate that at the
September 28 Planning Commission Meeting the Commissioners reached a consensus
that a 'park was needed in the vicinity of Sapphire Street and Hillside Road
and would appreciate forward movement in that direction by the parks
Commission.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no further Commission Business at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried to
adjourn.
9:25 P.M. Planning Commission Adjourned to an October 20, 1988 workshop
following Design Review to discuss the Sign Program for Town Center.
Respectfully submitted,
grad Eau 1 er
Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes -14- October 1 , 1988
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
October 101, 1988
NORTH ETIWANDA PLAN WORKSHOP
Chairman McNiel called the October 1.0, 1988 adjourned meeting of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission order .00 p.m. at the Community
Development Administrative offices located at 9320 Rase Line Road, Purpose of
the meeting was to continue with a ' review of planning 'concepts for a North
Etiwanda Plan.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT; David Rlakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Kroutil , Deputy City
Planner* Larry Henderson, Senior Planner* Dan Coleman,
Senior Planner; Scott Murphy, Associa Planner; Russ
Maguire, City Engineer* David Leonard, Park Project
Coordinator; Karen Emery, Associate Park Planner
Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, made brief introductory remarks concerning
the subject and ` introduced doe Di lorio, President of the Caryn Company, the
project proponent.
. Dilorio with members of his consulting team, presented an overview of the
project as well as work that had been done to date concerning community design
elements which included open space, architecture, and grading concepts.
After the presentation and comments andquestions by the Planning
Commissioners, City Planner Brad Buller summarized the points of interest that
require further study-
1. Analysis of the equestrian sized lots, their location, and number.
. Study to determine mechanisms for minimizing individual lot grading
configurations.
. Extend greenbelt opportunities to the interior of the individual
subdivisions as much as possible.
4$ Provide variation in lot sizes as illustrated in the concept plans.
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S. Optimize open space Improvement and utilization*
S. A mechanismfor open space implementation and utilization.
7. Provide a hierarchy of open space designations of local , community
and regional :
A discussion took place based on Commissioner PNiel 's concern about density
and lot sues throughout the project area. Mr. Buller pointed out that the
applicant is proposing a range of density from the southern-most site at 3,3-
4.0 dwelling units per acre down to 2 units per acre on the northern-most area
of the sphere.
Commission Chitiea indicated that she preferred see a limited concentration
of density in specific areas in order to provide an opportunity for lower
density elsewhere in the sphere area. She felt that the differences i
density between the individual areas would not be inappropriate with proper
design. Opening up of the higher density areas with paseos and corridors
leading into the major open space areas could provide necessary transitions.
Jess Harris of Land/Plan/Design group stated that he would like to schedule at
least one more workshop in order to bring back further analysis of the issues
which had been raised at this workshop meeting in order to provide sufficient
discussion of the issues. It was agreed that an additional workshop session
would be needed and that the date of said workshop would be mutually agreed
upon at some future time.'
There be no further business, the workshop was adjourned at 7: 10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Bu7er
Secretary
Planning Co ' ission Minutes - 2 - October 10 1988
CITE` CP RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
October b, I98
NORTH ETINANCA PLAN WORKSHOP
Chairman McNiel called the adjourned meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at'3.35 p.m. at the Rancho Cucamonga Neighborhood
Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. The purpose of the meeting was
to continue with a review of planning concepts for a north Etiwanda area plan.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Rlakesle , Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerik, Larry Niel , Peter Tolstoy.'
ASSENT. None
STAFF PRESENT. grad Buller, City Planner; Otto Krou,til , Deputy City
Planner- Larry Henderson, Senior 'Planner.
After some brief introductory comments by City Planner Brad Buller, Chairman
Niel noted that due to the lateness of the hour and previous time
commitments made b _ Planning Commissioners that this meeting should be
continued to a future date. By mutual consent it was determined that the
Planning Commission would continue this meeting to October IC, I98 to be held
at the offices of Community Development Agency Administrative offices located
at 9320 Rase Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga. There being no objections the
workshop shop was continued to October IC, `1988, S: C p.m. :The meeting was
adjourned at 9:00 p.m
Respectfully submitted,
d,
14ZAW---�
Brad Huller
Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regul ar Meeti ng,
September 28, 1988
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at Lions Park.
Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman
Niel then led in the pledge of al 1 e is nc .
ROLL, CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT- David Blakesley, Suzanne Chit ea, Larry
McNiel Peter Tolstoy
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT, Bruce Emerick
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Jeff Gravel , Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior
City Engineer; Ralph Hanson; Deputy City ;Attorney; ;Brett
Horner, Assistant Planner; Betty Miller, ;Assistant Civil
Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner;; Beverly
Nissen, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Secretary; Alan
Warren, Associate Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced. that Steven Hayes had joined the Planning
,Staff as an Assistant Planner.
Mr, Buller announced that public testimony coup be taken on Item K,
Environmental Assessment and Victoria Community Plan Amendment 88- 7, but for
technical reasons on the legal noticing, the item would be brought back at the
neat Planning Commission meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, carried, to approve the
minutes of September 1 , 1988, as amended.
CONSENT CALENDAR.
Planning Commission Minutes` -1- September 28, 1988
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 13442 - BAYWOOD DEVELOPMENT - The design review of
i ons an etas to an or lots of 'previously
approved tract map consisting gle family lots on 14.8 acres of
land in the Low®Medium Density Residdntial' District 4_8 dwelling Tunis
per acreD within the Vctorla Planned Community located at the northwest
corner of Victoria Park Lane and Kenyon Way - APN: 2 7-S41-S8 to 67; 227-
SS1-46 to 60; 227-581-1 to 32, 54 to 76; 227-591 28, 24.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-28 - DAMON DECROW - The
eve opment of a ed osp- a totaling square eet on acres'
in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 7), located west of White Oak and
at the terminus of Spruce Avenue - APN: 208- 51-78, 79.
C. TIME EXTENSION FOR PARCEL MAP 8578 - SANTA FE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY - A
vl si on' o acres 6 an 1 n o parce s �ii t i the in gum mpact
Heavy Industrial Area '(Subarea q) located on the south side of Arrow
Route, east and west of Milliken Avenue - APN: 29-111-2 .
Da ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT RENEW 88-25 LENNON ARCHITECTS -'
e' eve opmen art Io ice, mane ac ur ng,`' i5a ware ouse building
totaling 29,860 square feet on 1.5 acres of land in the General Industrial
District (Subarea ) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on the
south slue of Sharon Circle east of Hermosa Avenue - APN: 209-261-2 .
E. RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - - BARTON DEVELOPMENT
e reques or 'a as er on i i ona se ermi to' allow a cum i na ion;
of specific office and wholesale uses within the Jersey Business Park,
located north` of Jersey Boulevard and west of Red Oak Avenue - APN: 209-'
142- 9, 20, 21.
F. RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88 28 - PERRY - The
divil�opmen-F—of FT,115 square cot retai ui ng on acres of land
within an existing shopping center in the Community Commercial District of
the Foothill Specific Plan, located on the southwest corner of Foothill
Boulevard and Malachite Avenue - APN: 206-261-20.
Batt Horner Assistant Planner, reported that two conditions had been added
to Item` A requiring that fencing design be approved by the City Planner and
lot line adjustments for lots 1 2 and B be completed prior to issuance of
building permits. He stated the developer had been informed of the changes.
Motion: Moved by B1akesley, seconded by Chitiea, carried 4-0-1, to adopt Item
A as amended and Items B through F on the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ,AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 88-0 B - QUINTESSENCE
DEWERMT - request o amen a an use map o e Generalan rom?
ar eryLow Residential (less than two units per acre)` for 3.85 acres
located on the east slue of Sapphire` Street, south of Hillside Road -
APN: 1061-891-11,
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Jeff Gravel , Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea asked for clarification of the floating park designation.
Brad Buller City Planner,< stated that where the City does not own property
but a park is desired, the General Plan identifies this desire by a floating;
park designation. The proposal tonight would locate the symbol for the
floating park designation at the intersection of Sapphire t et and Hillside'
Road. Although they were, not currently pursuing parkland acquisition in this
immediate area, the Community Services Department had indicated they would
like to retain a floating designation for that area of the City.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim libbie, 5707 Turk Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was concerned' that
once the land designation was lost as park land, it would be gone forever. He
also expressed concerns with the drainage.
Joe Quinn, Quintessence Development, agreed with the staff report. he stated'
they felt the parcel had limited access and that it was not suited for a
park. He felt that within a one-mile radius there were parcels better-suited
for a park.
Debbi Eggleston, 6844 Nevada Court, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she was concerned
that if the park designation was; moved to 'a corner, eventually the City would'
be out of land with no park having been built.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated he felt that although there were not very many
remaining suitable park sites in that area, this particular site was also not
suitable because of limited street access;
Commissioner Chitea stated the subject tract of land was land-locked with the
exception of one +street. She felt the park, should have more visibility for
safety purposes and for attracting use. She felt the; City should try to
locate and negotiate for a larger piece of land.
Chairman McNiel asked if Community Services had a sense of priority for a park
in the general area,
Mr. Duller indicated there was interest in obtaining a park in the area, but
the recent focus was on looking for parks in the northeastern quadrant of the
City where there were currently no parks.
Commissioner Dl akesl ey agreed the subject site was not suitable for a park.
He supported the floating designation because he felt a park was needed in the
general vicinity.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the physical constraints of the property dictated
it be used for other than a park. He also stated he felt the drainage
question had been adequately addressed at a previous hearing.
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Chairman McNiel stated he felt that a park was definitely needed in that
area. He requested that correspondence with Community Services be made
indicating the Planning Commission's support for a park in that area.
r. Buller stated staff would send a memo to Community Services.
Commissioner Chitiea stated this was particularly important at this time
because there were few available remaining parcels of land i that area.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental
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pp Assessment and General Plan Amendment
8 -08Motion carried by the following vote;
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS.* NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMFRICK -carried
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND EN R PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 88-0 C - UN1TEX
reques o amen' enera an an se ap rom cry ow enstt
Residential ('1-2 dwelling units per acre) to General Commercial for '57.S+
acres of land looted south of 24th Street between. Cherry Avenue and the
1-15 Freeway. The Planning Commission will consider other appropriate
General Land Use categories (Neighborhood Commercial and Office) - APN:'
226 121- 8, 11, 12 and 226-112-0 .
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ETIWANDA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT NO. G -OS
request--too amen a swan a pecc an Map rom er,
ow ens;i ty Residential , 1-2 dwel 1 i ng units per acre) to "GC" (General
Commercial ) for 57.6 acres of land located south of 24th Street between
Cherry Avenue and the I-15 Freeway; and from "FC" (Freeway Commercial ) to
"GO (General Commercial ) for 6.5 acres of land at the westerly junction
of Cherry Avenue and the 1-1.5 'Freeway. The Planning Commission will
consider; the other appropriate Etiwanda Specific Plan land use categories
(Neighborhood Commercial , Convenience Commercial , Freeway*-Rel aced
Commercial , Office "Professional ) - AP : 226-121-08, 11, 12 and 226-112-
O .
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Dirk Johnston, 2402 Michelson, Irvine, representing Unitex, stated they agreed
with the staff report.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Blakesley stated the site was more appropriate for office/
commercial development than for residential. He felt General Commercial 'sites
were going to be needed in the area. Because of the proximity of major
arterials, he stated this parcel had good access and he felt it would be a`
good buffer for the freeway'.
Commissioner Tolstoy recommended they approve the action because freeway
exposure and the triangular configuration grade it a poor residential site. He
also felt the nearby market area would support such a center. He suggested
the Commission should push for a master plan, and felt there were several uses
available for the property, such as Neighborhood Commercial with freeway-
related services and Office/Professional buildings. He also pointed out that
the applicant should be sensitive to signage creeds for the center.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed that a master plan was essential for the location
because of the freeway exposure and felt the property was a gateway to the
City. She stated the applicant needed to be sensitive to the aesthetics and
insure high standards from the beginning.
Bred Buller, City Planner, stated the Specific Plan could be very specific an
indicate architectural style and 'criteria, and if that, was desired it could be
brought back as a separate amendment. He recommended it be placed on a future
agenda of the Design Review Committee in order to establish parameters for
development of the center.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt the item needed to be workshopped at some
point.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated circulation needed to be :addressed,
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r. Johnston stated they would be happy to work with the City to design a
quality project to meet the standards of the City. He poi nted out the
developer agreed it was a gateway project for north Etiwanda and said the
property was 'a long-term project, not "for-sale" property,
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Mr. Buller stated he felt the Commission could approve the two amendments as
written and have staff prepare a future amendment to establish the guidelines'
discussed.
Motion: Moved by Blakesle , seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolutions
recommending approval of the Environmental Assessment and General Plan
Amendment No. 88-0 C and Etiwanda Specific Plan Amendment No. ; 88-0 . Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEy', CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLST Y
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE'
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK -carried
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J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 88-4 E - WILLIAM LYON
reques amen wo si es o an use map o mere
an w thin the Victoria Groves (west of Milliken on '9.3 acres) and..
Victoria Vineyards (east of Milliken on 12.9 acres) Villages of the
Victoria Community Plan. The request proposes the switching of land use
designations from Medium High Residential to Neighborhood Commercial
between the two sites - APN: 7-011- , - 11-48.
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 88-07
reques o amen the an use esTgna ions t -in
the'Vfc-to—ria roves (west of Milliken on 9.3 acres) and Victoria Vineyards
(east of Milliken on 1 .9> acres) Villages of the Victoria Community
Plan. The request proposes the switching of band use designations from
Medium High Residential to Neighborhood Commercial between the two sites -
AP : 7-011 , - 11-48`.
Jeff Gravel , Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He also announced
that the Victoria Community Plan Amendment 88-07 was rescheduled for the
Planning Commission Meeting of October 1 , 1988.
Brad Huller, City Planner,; added that the applicant had submitted a letter
lowering the designation from Medium-High esi denti al (14- 4 ;units per acre)
to Medium Residential 8-14 units per acre) on the 9`.3 acre site and switching
from apartments to "for sale" condominiums.
Chairman McNiel opened` the public hearing.
Jim Bailey, Manager of Victoria Project for William Lyon Company, stated
Hughes Development felt the lamer parcel had better ingress; and egress for
commercial development. He stated the William Lyon Company had held public
meetings to get neighborhood input and heard that local residents did not want
commercial , apartments, or any changes. He said he felt they were really
saying they did not want apartments, and therefore, the iWilliam Lyon Company
was now proposing "for' sale" condominiums. He stated this wool d mean a 'val ue
loss to the William Lyon Company of over one million dollars, but they felt
the commercial project would benefit them enough to cover the loss.
John Potter, General partner of Hughes Development, stated a major supermarket
and drug store had approved the site on the original Neighborhood Commercial'
site, but felt ingress and egress would be very tight. They were therefore
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more interested in the larger site to allow for better internal and external
traffic circulation.
The following individuals addressed the Commission in opposition to the
project:
Dave Vallette, 11116 Amarillo, Rancho Cucamonga
Fred Deaux, 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga
Sharon goydston, 7066 Del Mar Court, Rancho Cucamonga
Patti Johnson, 1000 Sinclair, Rancho Cucamonga
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At the request of the Commission, Brad Buller, City Planner, described the
current zoning of the property. He also stated that traffic signals were
currently scheduled with _probable installation this year for Milliken and
Highland and Etiwranda and Highland. He further stated that it is currently
undetermined how long ,before the freeway may be built.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he heard frustration with development and land
use designations and the lack of public amenities. e said the plan 'included
a mix of residential uses and commercial use. He said the Planning Commission
was concerned with density and infrastructure. He couldn't understand wrhy,
there was opposition since the total density would be decreased and the
commercial development was being placed next to vacant land, so that future
development would see the commercial before moving in. Therefore, he
supported the change,
Commissioner Chitiea stated that from a purely analytical standpoint the
switch made sense She said she understood the concerns of neighbors. She
felt that the change was not so superior that it was necessary to upset so
many residents. She therefore would acquiesce to the residents' desires.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the the change made sense because the commercial
site should be large enough to accommodate traffic and allow a better
design. He also felt the larger site would al l owr better transition between
commercial and residential because noise is harder to mitigate on smaller
site. He further stated he felt the Lyon Company's change from apartments to
condominiums and the reduction in density would be a plus to the:
neighborhood... However, he did not like to see so many people turn out and be
disappointed. He felt the switch made good planning sense, but it was not
worth upsetting the community.
Chairman McNiel stated the Planning Commission makes every effort to do what
is in the best interest of the community. He felt the current commercial site
might fail as a commercial site' because of the lack of room and visibility.
He therefore, supported the change.
Commissioner Chitiea Mated that from a purely planning standpoint, the
proposed change was superior, but she felt the current designations could be
made to work.
Chairman McNiel asked what the slope was on the smaller parcel .
r. Buller responded that it was approximately 30 feet.
Commissioner Tol stay stated that the physical constraints of the smaller site
may be reason to support the swap. With the larger i te, ,the commercial
layout would have more room to mitigate the effect t of the slope.
Commissioner Hl akesl ey felt residents would be happier with what they would
get, from the switch than with what they would get without 'i t.
Motion, loved by Hlakesle , seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment'
G - . Motion carried by the following vote*
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AYES; COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, MCNIEL, TCLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CNITIEA
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK -carried
9:15 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed
9:35 P.M. - <Planning Commission Reconvened
Vice Chairman Chi iea announced that Chairman McNiel would be rejoining the
meeting at a later time.
L. MASTER ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT (MEA) AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
compre ens1ve study i en 7 y a environ n a
charac_te—r1_s�t`ics and constraints of the General Plan area. As an ME A, the
document will provide a central source of current environmental
information to assist in identifying long range, areawide and cumulative
impacts of individual projects proposed in the General Plan area.
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing..
Jeff Zwack, ;City of Upland Planning Department, stated he felt the document
was well written and comprehensive. He expressed concerns with regional
traffic i impacts. He felt the report should address the adverse impact if the:
Foothill Freeway is not completed and also address the future role of mass
transit; He also wanted to know how the proposed circulation element compared
to the regional transportation plan.
Douglas Yoeman, representing the law firm of Parker and Covert, presented a
letter to the Commission on behalf of the Central and Etiwanda School'
Districts. He stated that both districts were willing to actively participate
in working with the City to insure that adequate school facilities and
financing are met. He stated that ; traditionally the State does not have
adequate funds to finance the demands of the school districts. Therefore'
community facility districts are 'set up to 'offset the shortcomings. He stated
the City Redevelopment Agency should share some of the increased property
values With the school districts He felt the almost doubling of the student'
population would create a massive impact of hundreds of millions of dollars.
The school districts were concerned with the lack of analysis in section III'
pertaining to schools with, no projection past 1990 and the only reference to
financing stating developer funds should mitigate the school needs. The
districts felt that developer fees would not be adequate.
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Commissioner Tolstay requested that the item be continued to October 26, 1988
s he would not he present at the October 12 meeting.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea thanked Mr. Zwack and stated she appreciated his
comments regarding the report and expressed hope that both cities 'could work
cooperatively in the 'future on joint traffic issues. She, also expressed
appreciation for Mr. Yoe n's input and stated Mr. oe a 's 'concerns should
be addressed' in the final ,report,
Mr. Buller responded that staff would work with the consultants and respond..
The Master Environmental Assessment (MEA) and Environmental Impact Report
(EIR) for the Rancho Cucamonga General Plan Technical update were continued to
the October 26, 1988 Planning Commission Meeting.
M. GENERAL PLAN TECHNICAL UPDATE - CITY OF RANCHO UC ONGA The project is
t e prepara nn, rev ew, a---n'd--a-dboti-b-n--o-f-ii-Tec-hnical update of the Generali
Plan consisting of statistical information and implementation aures,
and revisions to the Community Design section of the Land Use and
Development Element.
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Brad Buller, City Planner,' suggested that the item also be continued to the
October 26, 1988 Planning Commission Meeting.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he especially Piked the new general design
principles section and the proposed design guideline book, ; He hoped the
Commission would push for the guidebook and provide enough time in the wore
program. He further felt the General Plan needed ;graphics for illustrative
purposes and to enhance appearance. He felt the format 'should also be
reviewed.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue the General Plan
Technical Update to October 26, 1988. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA TOL TOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, MCNIEL -carried
N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL P 10547 - WESTERN
PROPER su vas on o acres o an In o parce s t e
errs Vista Planned Community located on the southwest corner of Church
Street and Terra Vista Parkway - APN: 1077-4 1-06, Og, 10.
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Darrye ,Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the small , triangular parcel could be split
between parcels 1 and 2.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea felt it might be simpler to` have only one owner and
asked the current status,
r. Hanson stated it was a separate parcel', and that it could be dedicated to
the Ci ty.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if it were not dedicated to the City if it would be
maintained by the Landscape Maintenance District.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked` ho paid into the Landscape Maintenance District.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, responded that all property owners in Terra `Vista
pay into the district.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing..
Don Thompson, Western Properties, Mated they felt the triangular parcel'
should go to the 'Landscape Maintenance District because it was separated from
the other parcels by Deer Creek Channel. They also planned to erect a
monument.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked what the design of the monument would be.
Mr. Thompson responded that it would be the same as the one at the corner of
Baseline and Maven and would only say "Terra Vista". He also stated the other
monuments were currently maintained by the Landscape District. He mentioned
they had taped with the Park Commission about adding small corners of land to
the park system as they were found to be surplus to their development needs,
and he planned to discuss this portion because it was located at the end of
the trail running alongthe Deer' Creek Channel . a `a eked that condition
be
deleted from the Resolution.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was !closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt condition 5 should be deleted. He Mated the
property owner across the channel would forget that it was his;
responsibility. As it was in a prominent' area of the City, he wanted to be
sure it was maintained-.
Commissioner Blakesley supported dropping the condition.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that as the corner was an entry point, it needed
to be maintained ,in the proper manner and the City would not want to chase
after several owners to properly maintain it.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked who would install the monument.
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Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that the project was conditioned to have
the developer install the monument and landscaping.
Vice-Chairman Ehtiea stated the condition should also cover pedestrian
amenity elements.'
Commissioner Blakesley asked if project parking was self-contained*
r. Coleman confirmed that it was.
Commissioner McNiel rejoined the meeting at this time,
Motion:' Mowed by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt; the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 10547 with the
amendment to condition S calling for the developer to landscape the corner
parcel , including pedestrian amenities and a monument sign. Motion carried by
the following low�n vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EHITIEA, TQLSTOY
DES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EERIE -carried
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: MENIEL
O. VARIANCE ' 88-19 - WILLIAM LYON COMPANY - A rudest to utilize on-street
par iffig to e e parking requirement for a 'model home saps complex
located on the northeast corner of Victoria Park Lane and Fairmont Way in
the Low-Medium [tensity Residential District within the Victoria Planned
Community - APN - 202- 11-1 , 14.
P. VARIANCE 88-20WILLIAM LYON COMPANY - A request to utilize on-street
par ih o e e _0ArkFKg regd nt for a model home sales complex
located on the west side of Benevento Place in the Low-Medium Density
Residential District within the Victoria Community - APN: 22 -081-04, 10
and 11.
Brut Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff:report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Bailey, Manager of William Lyon Company, stated parking lots were being
designed into the areas which would eventually become cul-de-sac streets, but
the streets would not become streets until after all the homes were sold. He
felt on-street parking was not generally allowed because of the issues of
access by other residents and construction traffic, but because there were no
other, residents along the proposed streets and construction traffic would not
be in the area, he felt the usual reasons for denying the parking were moot.
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Commissioner Chitiea asked if the developer would be willing to put an iron
gate to block the entrance at night to designate that it was a parking lot.
Mr'. Bailey responded they would be happy to gate the entrance.
Chairman Mc Niel asked if the developer would be;willing to stripe the area.
r. Bailey responded that the street would be finished except for the top
layer and they were planning to stripe it. After the homes were sold, they
would then go in and lay the top layer on the street.
Commissioner Chitiea asked how many parking spaces would be provided;
Mr. Bailey responded '14 would be available at one site, while 12 would be
provided at the other.`
Chairman Mcel asked if they were planning to landscape the cul-de-sac.
Mr;. Bailey stated they were; planning to landscape the residential side.
Fred beaux, ;11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he felt the William
Lyon Company should utilize foresight. He stated if multi-family unitsi were
going to be built, off-street parking would be needed and he wanted that
parking built now and; used for the model home parking. He also complained'
that every opening phase had brought RV parking in order to be first in line
to purchase, He wanted to know if the parking area was gated, how the RVs
would move at night. He wanted the Planning.` Commission to provide for RV
parking.
Kyle Nicholson, 10918 Manchester, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he would like to
see regulation of parking on Fairmont.
George Yankovich, 1U905 Manchester, Rancho Cucamonga, supported Mr. Bailey's
proposal . He stated that during the week' school teachers park on Fairmont,
making the street too narrow, and he asked if the developer could put up
temporary "no parking" signs in the morning.
Brad Buller, City Planner stated that Planning would contact the school to
find out why the teachers were parking in the street.'
As ,there were no further comments, the public hearing' was closed.
Co ' issioner 9lakesley stated he felt the proposal made sense.
Commissioner Chitiea suggested that perhaps the development code needed to be
changed instead of granting the variance.
Commissioner Tol stay felt the development code should be modified, but spell
out when it was appropriate. He felt it made sense to use cul-de-sacs as
parking during the selling phase.
Commissioner Chitiea suggested requiring box trees and appropriate attractive'
fencing. She` felt camper parking could be eliminated by posting "no overnight
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parking" signs. She felt Planning should send a letter to the schools, asking
them to provide adequate parking for teachers and staff.
Buller stated the Temporary; use Permit could include conditions to cover'
grand openings.
Commissioner Blakesley felt it would be more appropriate to issue a number to
prospective buyers instead of having them camp out for a week or two.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r, Bailey stated that during their last opening they had utilized the number
system and the developer would be happy to have no overnight parking.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tol stay stated he had no problem with future developments also
utilizing this concept.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolutions
denying Variance 88-I9 and ;88- 0 and direct staff to prepare an amendment to
the Development Code to cover this situation, including hours of 'operation,`
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK ®carried ;
ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 88-01 -; HARRY C'S - A request to conduct live comedy
ac s, seer s ee e ri ies an c eer a ers promoting sports teams, lip-sync
contests, hair and clothing fashion shows, Miss Hawaiian Tropic Beauty
Pageant and a request to continue "disc jockey" doing vocals and playing
records nightly in conjunction with a restaurant/night club, located at
10877 Foothill' Boulevard.
Dan Coleman, 'Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Harry Histen, 3666 University, Riverside, attorney for the applicant, stated'
that after the public hearing at the City Council Meeting, the City Council
decided not to act, stating that the application was incomplete. At that time
the City Attorney advised them they had the right to refile. Harry C's hired
an Entertainment Director to be certain the entertainment would be upscale.
They had not realized they were exceeding the entertainment permit and cut
back when they were informed they were exceeding their permit. Since the;
Mother's nay overcrowding he stated there had been no other Fire Department
violations. He stated they now had uniformed security guards and had changed
management at the restaurant.
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Jim Engel hart, 9 Kansas, , Redlands, Entertainment Managers for H ' ,
described the proposed entertainment package.
Commissioner Blakesley asked for clarification regarding the fashion shows
from the local merchants.
. Engelhart described similar shows at one of their other locations
evening attire, ski wear, etc.
Commissioner, Chi ti ea asked ghat would prevent harry C's from conducting wet-T>
shirt contests.
r'. En elha t stated that for Rancho Cucamonga they were not right and: not
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necessary.
Commissioner Chitiea asked the clientele age group.
Mr. Engelhart stated their entertainment was aimed at the 21 9 age group,
Robert Peppl r, Rancho Cucamonga Sheriff's station, advised that since July
1 , 1988, there had been 17 calks for service, including 4 disturbance calls,'
arrests for drunk in public, 2 vehicle break-ins 1 fight, 1 subject in
possession of a handgun, and 1 stolen vehicle recovery. He reported that Mr.
Chan had cooperated with the police department and had hired security'
guards. However, Lt. peppler felt expansion of the permit would add to the;
problem.
Chairman McNiel asked for an estimation of the age group the Sheriffs were
encountering.
t. Pep'pler responded 21 - 30. He imentioned they had encountered problems
with minors in the lounge in the past, but Mr. Chan seemed to have improve
his policing.
Fred beaux, 11036 Shaw Street, Rancho Cucamonga stated that past 10:00 P.M.
the crowd is mainly the younger group: He suggested that if the City approved'
the expanded entertainment permit, they stipulate severe limitations on what
Harry Cs could do. he also felt the applicant should prove over the; long
haul that they could control their clientele before being al 1 owed to expand
their permit.
"rank Cardenas, stated he was a former manager of Marry C's, but no longer
worked there. He stated the applicant had installed new guidelines and felt
it was unfair to penalize him for prior management.
Mr. Histen stated that the Sheriff's department is sometimes called before
there is a problem in order. to be sure a situation does not get out of 'hand.
He also stated that as of October 5, they will have been working with the
reduced entertainment for 10 days and they requested that the Commission
count the 1 0-day review period from the reduction in entertainment instead of
the July 27 Planning Commission Meeting date.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, , stated that Chief Almond; of the Fire District was
not available to personally address the Commission because he was fighting the
fire in the hills. However, Chief Almond had indicated there had been no new
citation
s s issued. He could support expansion of the permit if a provision
were added to allow future evaluation at specified times.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that on duly 13 Harry C's came perilously close to
revocation of their Entertainment permit. The 1 C-day evaluation period was
imposed to have them prove they could handy the situation and she wanted to
see a proven; track record. She felt the proposed entertainment package would
appeal to a younger crowd, not young professionals.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the situation should never have been allowed to
get out of hand and it showed poor judgment on the pant of Harry Vs. He also
felt the City had received poor cooperation from the applicant, He indicated
the proposed' entertainment list needed revision and he wanted to wait the 120
days from the date of the Resolution.
Commissioner Rlakesley agreed that the 10-day evaluation period pertained to
the possible revocation of the permit and he stated he was unwilling to say
the Commission would automatically consider expansion of the permit at the end
of the 120 days.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that if the applicant returned with an expansion
application, the proposed entertainment would need to appeal to a broader
range of clientele.
Chairman McNiel stated the applicant was asking the planning Commission to
retrofit the 1 -day evaluation period. He stated the applicant had initially
told the Planning Commission they intended to operate a "high class dinner
house" and new they were focusing on their need for entertainment money.
r. Buller recommended the item be continued to (November 23, 1988.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the public bearing could be reopened to ask if
the applicant were willing to agree to the continuance and consider a
restructuring of the entertainment.
Chairman McNi'el reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Histen stated they were willing.
Motion: t4oved by McNiel , seconded by Rlakesley, to continue Entertainment
Permit 01 to November 23, 1988. Motion carried by the following vote.
YES: COMMISSIONERS: HLA ESL Y, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TCLS OY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS.- NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK -carried
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1 : 5 P.M. -, Planning Commission Recessed
1 . 0 P.M. - Planning Commission Reconvened
R. ENVIRONMENTAL, ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11685 - O'BRIEN -
su Ul-VISIOVET 0.58 acres o an n o arce s n the Low enti al'
Develop
ment District, located on the south aide of Devon Street at Kinlock
Avenue - APN 08 BS1-0,9, 10.
Betty Miller, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitea asked if the lots were the same size as adjacent ones.
Ms. Miller responded they were larger.
Chairman McNel opened the public hearing
Anthony Cinque, 1387 North Euclid, Upland, representing the applicant, stated
the homes would be approximately 1,500 square feet and they were willing to
work with the City.
Tim LaMarca, 10106 High Chaparral , Rancho Cucamonga, stated he represented
eadowood Village Norse Owners Association and they were concerned with the
drainage on the lots.
Chairman McNel closed the public hewing.
Commissioner Chitea asked about the calculation of the lot size.
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated density is based on available 'land up to
the r cute line of the street when parcels are first divided. In this
instance the street had already been dedicated, but as the lots were going to
be larger than surrounding 'lots, Planing felt it was fair to use the center
line of the street forTM' calculation.
Motion- Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy to adopt the Resolution'
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 11685. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK carried
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S. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88 1D - HILLSIDE
eve o en a as er " an; or urc
consisting of a sanctuary, administration building, education/nursery
building, and family center on 8.5 ages of land in the Very Low
Residential District located on the vest 'side of Haven between Carrari
Street and Hillside Road - APN: 01- 1- .
T. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-38 - HILLSIDE
reques o rnsta a mo a ar ing
or a c urc c assroom (Sunday School') facility on 8.5 acres of land in
the Very Low Residential District located on the west side of Haven Avenue
north of Hillside Road APN. 201-101® b.
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report and indicated
that there were several changes in the proposed Resolution.
Chairman McNiel asked if the applicant had indicated when they wished to pull
building permits for the administration building. He then opened the public
hearing.
Dave Burns, Pastor of Hillside Community Church, agreed with the staff report
and changes to the Resolution. He stated the administration building would be
started in perhaps 2 -` 4 years.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked for clarification on the proposed unpaved parking
.spaces in the ball field area.
Ms Nissen Mated the unpaved parking of 125 spaces was counted toward the
required number of parking spaces.
Chairman McNiel asked if it was gravel surface.
Mr. Burns stated they planned to use the grassy edge of the ball field to
accommodate parking on Sunday morning, thereby leaving room in the area for
full soccer and softball fields. It was their understanding people could park
on the grass without extensively damaging it, like they do at the Rose Bowl
golf coarse. '
Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. `
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the project did not seem to meet the usual parking
criteria, and asked how many spaces were needed.
rBuller responded 1, space was needed for every 4 fixed seats of sanctuary
size. The applicant had indicated a soil study confirmed the stability of the
ground and that parking would not be detrimental to the ground. Because' this
was merely a+ concept plan, the Planning Commission could further review the
parking surface when a site specific development package was submitted. The
applicant could also reduce the size of the sanctuary and thus reduce the
number of required parking spaces.
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Commissioner Chitiea questioned if the applicant had agreed to the removal or
reconstruction of the northerly Haven Drive approach.
Mr. Buller indicated they had agreed to the City' requirement.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if turf block could be used.
Commissioner Tel toy felt the parking surface would need to be reviewed before
being constructed.
Commissioner Blakesley felt it was a great idea if the ground dad not become a
quagmire.
Mr. Buller suggested that the minutes and a memo to file could be used to flag
review of the on-lawn parking g concept as provided in the master plan.
Chairman McNiel agreed it was a novel approach which made a lot of sense,'
particularly for churches.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the sample board indicated natural stone, but she
did not see it in the 'Resolution and requested that addition.
Lion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley to adopt the Resolutions
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit 88-10 and
Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use permit 88-88 with amendments
calling for use of natural stone and review of ball field parking area.
Motion carried by the following vote._
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CH T EA MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT., COMMISSIONERS: EMERICk -carried
U. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT O TENTATIVE TRACT 1527 - MELCHER -
res enti a su i v lion o s 'ng a am, y o s on acres ;o a'nd in
the Low Residential Designation (2-4 dwelling units per acre) , located at
the northwest corner of Etiwanda Avenue & 24th Street- APN. 5-071-65.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what was to take place at the triangle' formed by
the intersection of Wilson and 24th Street._
Mr. Murphy responded that the applicant was trying to work with the current
property owner to acquire that parcel and would like to use it to develop two
or three additional lots, which would come through the process at a latter
date.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
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Cary Mitchell , design consultant for the applicant, showed proposed elevations
to handle visitor parking. He indicated they were proposing enhanced
landscaping, including supplemental trees and decorative masonry, where the
driveways were placed close together because of the cul-de-sacs. They also
wanted to gate the flag lots. They proposed furnishing complete front-yard
landscaping and irrigation on the lots at the 'end of the cul-de-sac streets.
He further pointed out that they had located a 0-foot community trail solely
within 'theirs property. He stated if the 'enhancements were not approved, the
developer would be willing to delete 3 lots. He felt additional enhancements
could be added to the rear of houses which faced other houses or were along
Ctiwanda Avenue.
Chairman McNiel asked about the possibility of providing greenway,lpaseos
within the development, stating he felt the terrain 'would lend itself well to
that concept.
The applicant felt that could be addressed at the Design Review stage because
a more refined grading plan would be available then.
Commissioner Tolstoy pointed out paseos could help' with the grading
di ffe renti al .
Chairman Mc.Hiel asked if the plan showed where 24th Street would stop.
Mr. Mitchell stated the tan showed where h`t e physical improvements
p �" would
stop, but in-lieu fees would pick up an extension of 4th s shown on the
master plan.
Commissioner Chitiea asked how the Commission could go back and add paseos a
a later time, if they approved this tract crap.
Brad Buller, ' City, Planner, stated they could not unless the Commission added a
condition of approval that paseos be incorporated into the crap, subject to
review and approval by the Planning Commission or Design Review, prior to the
recordation of the final map.
Chairman McNiel felt the greenbelts should provide a functional use, not be
used merely to compensate for grade differential's.
As there were no other comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated he liked the flag lots so long as they; were
landscaped and irrigated. He also said he was a strong advocate of the paseo
system and felt it would help take up grade.
Commissioner Chi tiea disagreed, and felt the cul-de-sacs still looked too
crowded, She, was also opposed to gated driveways within a community. She
felt they would give an exclusionary feeling and detract from the community
spirit. She wanted to have the greenbelts added, but stated' they needed to
have a destination, not just be randomly spotted.
Commissioner Blakesley didn't like the gates,
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Chairman McRiel felt the flag lots were not a problem, as some people look for
isolation.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated he did not think gates were necessary.
Chairman McRiel reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Mitchel stated the gates were not necessary and he believed the suggestion
for adding greenways was a goad one.
Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Chitiea stated if one lot were eliminated, they could still place
one home in the roar, but have more room.
Chairman McNiel asked if two driveways could be created from one curb cut.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she felt that could pit neighbor against neighbor.
Mr. Buller suggested the Commission could approve the Resolution with the
condition that the tentative rasp be revised and referred to Design Reviews
prior to recordation of the` final map;.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested approval of the; map with conditions'. He also
felt the developer could alleviate the cross-lot drainage by use of the
paseos,'
Commissioner Chitiea asked that the developer work towards lowering the
density,
Motion; Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, ;to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13527 with the addition
of front yard irrigation and landscaping within the cul-de-sac streets, and
Planning Commission approval of a total Design Review package incorporating a
pAseo system and possible deletion of some lots; Motion 'carried by the
following vote;
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKES EY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS., NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICk -carried
Mr. Buller asked for clarification on ;the concept of the paseos. He
understood the primary purpose of the paseos was to; provide pedestrian
linkages.
Ba rye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated it would have to be decided if
the paseos were to be public or private. He foresaw problems with public
ones, because Engineering would' require 3 to 1 slopes. He also foresaw
possible drainage and erosion problems.
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Hr. Buller stated Planning could look at the paseos and preferred to bring it
back in a conceptual level 'before the applicant spent a lot of time and money
on detailed drawings of there-established- lot lines.
The consensus of the ;Commission was that they were willing to first look at
the conceptual drawings.
OLD BUSINESS
V. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88 0 ARCHITECTURE ONE -'
e div06pmin o an i n us ri a complex cdinpri se o seven u ngs'
totaling 55,546 square feet on 3.13 auras of land in the General
Industrial Designation (Subarea ) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan,
located at the southeast corner of Fifth Street and Lucas Ranch Road
APNF 210-071-37.
,Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the applicant was proposing both styles of
buildings shown on the elevations.
r. Murphy pointed out the corresponding lots and buildings.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Robert Laird, 148 North Harvard, Suite F, Claremont, project architect, stated
he felt he had been directed by Design Review to use two different design
elements. He suggested that on building 6 and 7 the trellis be eliminated and
umbrella trees be substituted.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the applicant had significantly unproved the
building design, but she would prefer only one design with variations. She
stated she was willing to have both designs utilized, but would also like to
have the a color variation.
Commissioner Bl akosl ey stated he would like continuity, but had no strong
feelings about using only one design. '
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was happy with the two designs as presented.
Chairman McNiel felt the architect had done a good job. He suggested a two-
color combination be used on the the four buildings.
Commissioner Bl akesl ey stated the trellises should be removed from buildings
and 7, as they would be in conflict with the building.
It was the consensus of the Commission that landscaping could be used in lieu
of the trellises.
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Commissioner Chitiea asked that trees be planted large enough so that shade
would be achieved within a reasonable; period of time.
Motion Moved by Bl akesl ey j seconded by Tol stay to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 88-02 as amended to
remove the trellis from buildings 6 and 7 and use two colors for the building
exteriors. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CNITIEA MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
W. STATUS REPORT - PEDESTRIAN :ACCESS EASEMENT LOCATED BETWEEN LA PAZ COURT
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
The Commission concurred that no further action was required.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no further Commission Business at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tolsto,y, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried to
adjourn.
1: 5 A.M. - Planning Commission Adjourned to an October 6, 1988 Design Reviews
Workshop regarding North Etwanda Sphere of Influence Master Plan.
Respectfully submitted,
N
Ardull
Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING ISSIH MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting,
September 22, 1988
North twanda Plan Workshop
Chairman i o1 called the September 22, 1988 AdjournedMeeting' of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga Planning fission to order at 8:30 P.M. at the Rancho
Cucamonga Neighborhood Center, 9791 Arrow Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. The:
purpose of the meeting was to review planning concepts for a North Ptianda'
Area Plan.
COMMISSIONERS ATTENDING: Larry McNiel , Suzanne Chitiea, avid Blakesley,`
Bruce Emerick., and Pater Tostoy
STAFF Brad Buller, City Planner; 1ty
Planner; and array Henderson, Senior Planner
Also attending were representatives of the project proponent, Caryn Company:
Joe DiIorio, Jess Harris and Steve Kelley
Brad Buller, CityPlanner,; and Larry Henderson, Senior Planner, made brief
introductory remarks concerning the subject and introduced don Dilorio,
President of the Caryn Company, the proponents of this project.
r. Dilorio, with members of his consulting team, presented ani overview of the
project, as well` as work that had been done to-date concerning' community
design elements, which included open space, architecture, and grading'
concepts,
After the presentation Commissioner Chi tied indicated that she had concerns in
the following areas:
1. Return walls of the there walls and providinga uniform design.,
. ` Provision of paseos, which would act as pedestrian as well as view
connections of the open space.
. Howe much of the area would be equestrian oriented and community
related.
In addition to these concerns Commissioner Tolstoy expressed concerns with
circulation and how it relates to the open space, flood control measures,
grading concepts to minimize cut and fill slopes, and the usability of lots,
the use of maintenance and lighting g e`ents for lighting and landscaping,
and whether or not water usage and conservation of water principles were going
to be a major consideration of the development of this area.
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Additional concepts were discussed involving the use of stem lls and split-
level houses along east-west running streets and grading of major slopes along
street rights-of-way in order to minimize individual residential lot grading.
Chairman iel stated that additional workshop meetings would be needed. It
was mutually agreed that October 6 would be the date of the next workshop
session concerning this subject. It was further indicated that the next
meeting would be to discuss the issues of density, grading techniques on a
more detailed level , open space definition and analysis, as well as a
presentation on the status of master circulation and drainage studies for the
area.
There being no further business, the workshop was continued to October 6,
1988, a . Q P.M. , to be held at the Neighborhood Center,' g 91 Arrow Highway,
Rancho Cucamonga.
The meeting adjourned at g®
Respectfully submitted,
brad idler
Secretary
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Planning Commission Minutes - - September , 1988
CITY GP RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MI UTE
Regular eeti ng
September 14, 1988
Vice Chairman Chi ti es called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga a Planning Commission to order at :CG P.M. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 91 ase LineRoad, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Vice Chairman Chitiea then led in the pledge of ally iahce.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David 1 a esl ey Suzanne Chi ti ea, Bruce'
E erai , Paten Tol s,toy, Larry McNiel
(arrived at ;g: G 'P.M. )
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: None
STAFF ESE T® Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Tom hn, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior City
Engineer; Ralph Hanson; Deputy City Attorney; Brett
Horner, Assistant Planner; Cynthia Kinser, Assistant
Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Beverly Nissen,
Assistant Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner- Gail
Sanchez, Secretary; Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer;
Walt Stickney, Associate CivilEngineer; doe Stoffa,
Associate Civil Engineer; Cris Westman, Assistant
Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that Associate Planner Debra Meier was on
a leave of absence because she recently had a baby girl .
r. Buller also announced that this evening's meeting would adjourn to a
special workshop of the Planning Commission following the next Design Review
Committee Meeting regarding development of plans in the Sphere of Influence
north of the City limits.
APPROVAL GP MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Ilakesley, seconded by E eric , to approve the minutes of
the dully 27, 19 eetin , as amended. Motion carried with Commissioner
Tol stoy abstaining.
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Moti Moved by Tol stoy,: seconded by Olakesley, carried 4- -1, to approve
the minutes of the August 24, 1988 meeting, as amended.
CONSENT CALENDAR
DESIGNA. REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13441 - GRUPE DEVELOPMENT Design
reiewr o urn eat7ons are se 4n opreviously '
proved tract map consisting of 115 single family lots on 18.06 acres of
land in the Low-Medium Density Residential ' ist ict 4- dwelling units '
per acre) within the Victoria Planned Community, i located at the northeast'
corner of Victoria Par Lane and Kenyon Way - AP : 7-011 07.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT O DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8-19 - BRETHREN IN CHRIST
e � n rep o ui n e era �arts an P pan or an
square foot administration and worship 'center within a: previously approved
Master Planned church facility on 6.8 acres of land in the Medium
Residential District (8-14 dwelling units per acre), located at 9974 19th
Street -' AP: 0 -171- 1, 32, and 35. Associated with this application
is Tree Removal Permit 0- 7
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESS E T FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW - 7 - BARTON DEVELOPMENT
eve op en o in us ria ur ns o a in , square ee on
. acres of land n the General Industrial District Subarea ) of the
Industrial Area Specific Plan, located south of Arrow Highway at the
intersection of Red Oak Street and Edison Court -; AP :' 209-14 - .
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that Engineering requested the removal of Item A
for discussion.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, carried 0-1, to adopt
Items B and C on the Consent Cl `ndar.
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 1 441 - GROPE DEVELOPMENT
ar"rye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, pointed out a change in the Engineering
Conditions requiring an amended map prior to any lot sale or utility/occupancy
release and d technical change regarding zero lot line wording.
Brad Buller, City; Planner stated that staff had worked with the developer on
zero lot line concept and the current reco endation before the Commission was
strongly supported by staff.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing. As there was no testimony,
the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tol stay, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving esi n Review for Tentative Tract 1441 with the Engineering
changes. Motion carried by the following Vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, TOLSTC
COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. ENVIRONMENTAL SCSS T AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 6-01
pa
dpmixed use proec ing o a
ffif eon o inium project on 5.81 acres of land and Oa 39,000 square foot
commercial center for a market/drug store, bank, and retail use on 5.5 .
acres of land in the Community Service District of the C i anda Specific
Plan, located at the northwest corner of Base Line Road and ktianda
Avenue P 22 -522-01, '02, 03, 04 and 22521- 5. 'Associated with
this project is Tree Removal Permit - 1, requesting the removal of two
2mature trees along Etianda Avenue. (Continued from ugust 24, 1988)
E. ENVIRONMENTAL; SSESS T AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13886 AL C
e' eve en o un con d n prddec on acres d are in
the; Community Service District of the ` tianda Specific Plan, located at
the northwest corner of Base Lind Road and Ctianda Avenue - AP: 22 -`
522 C1, 02, 03, 04, and 22 21 6 . (Continued from gust 24, 1988) .
P. ENVIRONMENTAL, ASSESSMENTTENTATIVE P C L MAP 11 - L I I
su on o acres o an in o parce s i n e o do 1
Service District of the Etiwanda Specific Plan, located at the northwest
corner of Base Line Road and Lti `an a Avenue - AP : 22 - 22-01, 02 C ,
04 and 2 -521-65.
Sett Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Murphyj
discussed the special workshop held at Design Review on ` September 8, during
which the applicant was requested to provide extensive landscaping along the
north and west boundaries, review possible elimination or reoriention of
windows, and provide - a trellis structure on the balcony areas facing the
existing homes.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if a design had been received for the wall .
Brad Buller, City Planner stated that the wall design was a condition of
approval , and that landscape screening had been submitted for Commission'
consideration.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Mark Elliott, albandian/Chian pointed out that additional evergreen trees and
planting along the north and west boundaries were shorn on the new drawings.
They planned to use 5-gallon plants,
Commissioner Emerick asked the growth characteristics of podocarpus.
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Brad Buller, City 'Planner, indicated dense and green, but slow growing.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked how long it would take them to reach wall height.
Buller responded perhaps five years.
Mr. Elliott pointed out elevation changes which showed the new locations for
windows. e also me,ntioned the lattice screen work added to balconies would
be about 'd°" high.
Rick Fontana, 7235 Dunmore Place, Rancho Cucamonga, expressed concern that
once the trees had groan tall , they might blow down. He also Mated the
buyers of the condominiums might take: down the trees. He requested one-story '
condos.
Ted Bistline, 7181 Powell Place, Rancho Cucamonga, wanted to know if the wall
would be going back to the Planning Commission for Design Review.
r Buller stated the wall design would be reviewed and approved by the City
Planner.
Tony Espinoza, 7215 Dunmore Place, Rancho Cucamonga, expressed concern that
tree roots would grow into sprinkler systems of ;present residents.
r. Elliott responded that trees would be planted approximately five feet from
the wall . He also pointed out that because the grade elevation was below the
level of adjacent homeowners, the roots should not spread as suggested.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked about the stability in windy areas.
Commissioner Tolstoy responded that podocar us did well, in wind.
s there was no further comments, the public hearing a closed.
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Vice-Chairman Chitiea pointed but there had been four workshops for this.
project.
Commissioner Tot stoy stated there had been an attempt to mitigate concerns of
neighbors. He felt comfortable e n having the wall design reviewed by the City
Planner. He mentioned` the Conditions could be worded to require that lattice
work remain in place. He felt the trees should be 'larger than -gallon' size
to speed up the growing process.
Commissioner lakesley agreed that 5-gallon plantings were inadequate and
further stated he; felt the types of plants'were good choices.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the trees proud be in a common maintenance` area
and asked if the City had the right to demand they stay and; not be removed
once the condominiums were sold.
Buller responded that if the Planning Commission approved the Conditional
Use Permit and the development plans as presented, they would become part of
the approval' and could' be enforced.
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Dan Coleman, Senior planner, suggested that Site Development Standard;
Condition #14 be added requiring Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions`
's and Articles of Incorporation of the Homeowner's Association be
approved by the City, Planning and Engineering Departments.
Ralph HansonDeputy City Attorney, added that the 's could not be amended
without corning before the Commission.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea suggested changing the wording in the Resolution to
require a decorative wall rather 'than specifying a woodcrete fence.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea reopened the public hearing.
Andrew ian, applicant, stated he would be happy to put up a large
percentage of the money to build a woodcrete fence on the; property of present
homeowners, but felt current residents should help pay. He stated his
attorney felt he was accepting too large of a liability if he entered the
property of current homeowners to work on fencing. He felt the current fence
could also be reinforced with steel posts and then covered with ivy or other
landscaping material . He stated he wanted the fence issue resolved at the
present meeting.
Gary Takata, 7243 Dunmore place, Rancho Cucamonga, suggested a larger
greenbelt area be placed between the existing hones and the new condominiums.
There being no further public testimony, the public hearing as closed.
Vie Chairman Chitiea stated she felt the fence requirements ere fine as
written.
Commissioner Tol stay stated the City Planner would be reviewing the design of
the wall .
r. Buller stated the only discretion of the City planner was the material of
the wall and; the landscaping.
Lion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tol toy, to adopt the Resolutions
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use permit ' 1,
Environmental Assessment and Tentative Trac t 13886 and Environmental
Assessment and Tentative parcel Map 11394 with the addition of ' Site
Development Standard Condition #14 and the decorative wall rewording. Motion'
carried by the following vote*
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RStY, CHITIN , EMERICK, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried
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September 14, 1988
G. V1 l L ASSESSMENT AND VAR dWHEELER
oo oulevard from 50 feet to 40 feet and along the rear property
line from 15 feet to o feet for a retail center and service station in the
Community o ` ercial District (Subarea of the Foothill Boulevard
Specific Plan, located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and
Vineyard Avenue - AP : -1 - 0.
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT d- - WHEELER AND
VRnTa--AftCR=T-----TFe--Uev-e-To-pm—e-nf-o-f-a--r-et-ai7-c-e-nTer—an& service
UaT ion o t a ng--4 416 square feet on 0.63 acres of land in the Community
Commercial District (Subarea of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan,
located at the southeast corner of Foothill 'Boulevard' and Vineyard Avenue '
A W208-192-06.
cott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if the proposal called for natural stone}
rMurphy affirmed that the developer's plans called for using native stone.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Paul Wheeler, project architect, pointed out that In -Out Burgers would lose
parking space under the current site plan. A modified site plan was presented
showing that In- -Out would not lose their parking*
Kevin Palmer, 8167 Vineyard Avenue, #102, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he
represented the Homeowners' Association at 'Villa Paloma and that the developer
of Villa Pal oara planned to be back in business within a month. the developer
asked him to point out that under the current site plan only a masonry wall
cud separate the front doors of the <condominiums and the new development.
Don Bollinger, attorney for In ' -Out Burgers, Mated they felt the original
proposal asked that they share' a driveway with two parcels to the west.
Therefore, they agreed to the alternate design, which would preserve present
parking. In -Out presently owns an easement along the back of the properties
with a set fife. The new developer had agreed to extend the easement life to
in perpetuity in exchange for the driveway agreement.
r. Wheeler, passed around a site plan of Villa Paloma which showed that
approved plans called for entries on the east and west side of the building
and the condominiums to be set back feet. Mr. Wheeler further stated
the plans for the new development call' for 5 foot planter along the wall and
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they intend to make the plants dense and tall .
Dave Cox, Manager of the Villa ; Palo a condominiums, stated the condominium
developer felt the views, noise, and fumes from the parking lot would affect
the sale value of the condominiums.
As there was no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Tol stoy asked the City Engineer about the drawbacks of the
driveway realignment.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, stated the difference in the two plans was a
reduction in the parking lot stacking lane by 20 - 25 feet. He stated City;
Engineering found the substitution functional 'and acceptable, but indicated
they would be pursuing with Cal Trans the ability to extend the median island
to the north and into a portion of the street right of way.
Commissioner Blakesley asked about truck turning paths.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner stated the alternate; plan° improved truck access.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated' he felt the development would be a good addition
to Foothill Boulevard and was glad all parties had cooperated.
Commissioner Blakesley commented it was a handsome project, but he was
concerned because it contained intense uses.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated the current alley easement is not attractive.
She felt rerouting roul d create a more attractive wall separation between the
commercial property and the condominiums. She felt the project would provide
an improved, high-quality entry point to the City and the' developer had shown
sensitivity to the development going in across the street at the Thomas Winery
project. She was pleased to see that the gas pumps were oriented ` away from
Foothill Boulevard,
Commissioner Tolstoy stated' the transition between commercial an residential
is usually a problem, but that had been somewhat alleviated because the
condominiums were already approved with entrances to the east and west.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea reopened the public hearing to allow Bollinger to
speak.
r* Bollinger questioned if Ins -Cut would see a site specific plan which
would detail the alternate driveway.
arye Hanson stated specific dimensions would be shown on the final grading
plan and site plan,
r Murphy further mentioned that prior to issuance of permits,, a ent must
be reached between Wheeler and Wheeler and In- -Cut and correspondence to that
effect would be required.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea closed the public hearing.
odor►. Moved by Blakesley, seconded by E eick to adopt the Resolutions
approving Envi ron ental Assessment and Variance Cg and Environmental
Assessment and Conditional Use Permit -C , with an amendment calling for all
rock to be native stone Motion carried by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, T LSTtY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL carried
:30 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed
S: S P.M. - planning Commission Reconvened
Id ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - : - PERRY - The
op en , square re ai u ink acres of land
within are existing shopping center in the Community Commercial District of
the Foothill Specific plan, located on the southwest corner of Foothill
Boulevard and Malachite Avenue - AP : C - S1- C.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Max Williams, applicant architect, stated they concurred with the staff:
report.
There being no further public comments, the public hearing was closed.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that in looking at the elevations it appeared to
be a decorated version of the existing structure and not consistent with the
Foothill Specific Plan. She was uncomfortable with the lack of design
enhancements and the site plan.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred that: the storefront was very plain. He felt it
as flat and uninteresting. He also wanted to know how the former service
station site on the corner of Malachite and Foothill would be integrated,
because this plan locked that site without access. He asked if a master plan
as available for the area.
r. Horner showed the master plan the ;. plicant submitted.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, stated that part of the problem with the drawing
submitted was that the building on the corner lot was dependent upon using
land on an 'adjacent parcel for parking, and that parcel is currently under
separate ownership. A reciprocal parking agreement would be needed between
the two owners.
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Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated it was appropriate that the Planning Commission
make sure an ingress/egress condition exists. She further pointed out this
was a large parcel of land, which is the type of property the Foothill
Boulevard Specific Plan addresses and looks to rehabilitate. She fell the
entire existing center needed rehabilitation. She felt it necessary to be
sure conditions were in place to encourage proper development.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Mr. Williams stated they had discussed the master plan issues and comments
with staff. He said they were proposing a small addition to a large, of
shopping center which Mr. Perry understands is currently in need of renovation
and repair. However, he did not feel it was fair to put the entire cost
burden of renovating the 40,000 square foot center on a 5,000 square foot
addition. He stated they worked with the Design Review Committee during three
meetings and reached a compromise where the initial development would make a
contribution to the City by finishing off the east end of the center with a
good architectural concept for the short term. He pointed out that a
condition of approval stated Mr. Perry would upgrade this new addition when
the rest of the center is upgraded. The proposed project would not generate
enough money to upgrade the entire center at this time. Mr. Perry had talked
with the current lease holders regarding renovation, but it is a difficult
problem because there are different ground leases which expire at different
times.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated that it has been the policy of the Commission to
discourage short-term solutions to other projects on Foothill since the
Interim Foothill Specific Plan and the implementation of the Foothill Plan in
order to prevent people from spending money on interim solutions and encourage
consolidation to upgrade the area. She felt this small addition did not
appear appropriate in that it would be adding one little area which would only
serve to draw attention to the rest of the center.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt perhaps columns could be added and the storefront
could be changed so the project would not present such a flat facade.
Commissioner Emerick stated he felt there should be added cosmetic
treatment. He stated that it was understandable that it might be difficult to
upgrade the center because of different lease periods for current tenants, and
perhaps they needed to add the renovation schedule to their lease renewals.
However, he felt this section should be better, so that it could be copied by
the rest of the center.
Commissioner Blakesley stated it was also important to make sure the former
gas station parcel remains viable in the future and that standards were being
met.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated there were no architectural enhancements on the
rear of the building and that she felt the people living there deserved
something more attractive to view.
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I Brad Buller, City planner, stated that Design Review had looked at these
concerns and what the applicant could and could not do as an individual vs.
the owner of the property. He pointed out that the current site plan would
lock in only certain options on the corner parcel . The applicant had
indicated they were unable to reach agreement with the owner of the corner
parcel regarding access. He stated the project could be conditioned to
include reciprocal ingress and egress in the northerly property.
Vice-Chairman Chi tiea indicated she felt the proposed parking spaces would
create a dangerous circulation conflict as people enter and exit on Malachite.
h ask the 'applicant i f he was
indicated the Commission a ors_ to
Mr. Buller _
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willing o back to Design Revs to stake major modifications to the
project;
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing to see if the applicant wished'
to return to Design Review.
r. Williams' aske why they should bother to go through Design Review, as they
had already done >so* He stated the i ty's policy was eliminating the local
building owner and encouraging large corporate absentee owners.
Commissioner Toltoy indicated the Commission was only asking that the
addition be upgraded.
Vice-Chairman Chi ti ea Mated the applicant also needed to address the concern
of providing access to the cornea parcel .
rWilliams stated that if Mr. perry had to provide access for the corner
parcel , the owner of the corner lot did not have to negotiate,
Forest perry, owner, stated he had proposed to improve what he owned. He felt'
that since he didn't own the corner lot, hedidn't feel he should be
responsible for providing ingress and egress. He also stated there were five
different property owners in the center.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked Mr. perry if he were willing to return to Design
Review.'
r. perm stated he had to be vole to rent at` 1.00 per square foot and the
changes the Commission'was asking for would cause his rent to be too` high. e
felt it would be a waste of time to return to Design Review.
There being no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesley; stated the subject development would preclude better
solutions and would perpetuate the status quo.
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to direct staff to place a
Resolution of denial on the planning Commission agenda (Consent Calendar of
E September 28, 19 . Motion carried by the following vote:'
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried
Chairman McNiel joined the meeting at this time.
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-34 - MONTESSORI
- e requesT—fo—`es-fa-bTi'slT a
fSr_e i n Fan t T_v 1,�n �nn�e ommunity Commercial District
sc'oo x's U'
u I of out Soul S
;area�3 e F hil�l evard peCcific Plan, located at 9544
Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-151-145 15 and 16.
Tom Grahn, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Elsie Garcia, Montessori , introduced Linda Kaliha as the prospective director
of the Montessori Child Enrichment Center.
Ms. Kaliha described their proposal ®
Commissioner Emerick asked if the applicant was familiar with New Directions,
and if so, if they foresaw any conflicts.
Ms. Kaliha stated she did not have any concerns and that she had spoken to
former Montessori staff members and been told there had been no problems.
Michael Rademaker, owner of the center, stated he had no problems with New
Directions being there. He had received no complaints from other tenants and
stated New Directions kept a to profile.
Alma Penoitt, owner of New Directions, stated her clients were only people
with learning difficulties. She stated when Montessori had been there
previously, there were no problems.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick stated the two uses seemed to be compatible.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed they should defer to the judgment of Montessori
and New Directions. She expressed concern only that the playground area had
been reduced.
Chairman Mc Niel reopened the public hearing to allow Mr. Rademaker to comment.
Mr. lade maker slated they pulled the playground back to conform to the
storefront image and they felt the playground area was large enough for the
number of children.
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The public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use Permit Hd-Sa Motion
carried by the following vote:
YES: COMMISSIONERS: RLAESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TCST Y
DES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: carried
K. MODIFICATION TO, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR PARCEL MAP 9897 - WESTERN
request o mo i y t e on ons a ppro a requiring a
rn pan is and within Terra Vista Parkway for a subdivision of 17.08 acres
of land into ''3 parcels in the Terra Vista ;Planned Community, located on
the southeast corner of Church Street and Terra Vista Parkway - AP:
107 - I C6, 077- g1-17.
Joe Stoffa, Associate Civil Engineer presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Ken Nishiha , Lewis Homes, stated this deletion referred to the same median
strip as was deleted on the previous application because there was no room for
landscaping.
There being no further comments, the public hearing was closed,
Motion:` ved by To sto, , seconded by Chi iea to adopt the Resolution
approving the Modification' to Conditions of Approval for Parcel Map 9897.
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: LA .ESLE , CHITIE , E E ICk, MCNIEL, TLSCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
i
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 137 - R DI E CC PA IES$
res en a su �vsorr o sing e rn� y o s' on acres
of--land in the Very Low Residential district 1-2 dwelling units per
acre? , _located west of Sapphire, south of Almond PN 1061- 9039
Associated with the project is Tree Removal Permit 16.
Beverly Nissen, Assistant Planner presented the staff report.
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Commissioner Chitiea asked for clarification on which three color samples were
to be used.
Ms. Nissen indicated the colors.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Dorothy Haight, Project Coordinator for odine Company, stated they agreed to
the conditions.
Mike Hames, 5248 Carol , Rancho Cucamonga expressed concerns about the
drainage, asking that drainage be provided before the start of construction.
He also requested rodent control before grading as the area had two coyote
dens and any rodents.
Jack Cygan, 8160 La Senda, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was concerned with
drainage and grading and he also wanted protection for the wildlife such as
coyotes and roadrunners.
Jim Smith, 5208 Saphire Street, Rancho Cucamonga, wanted assurance regarding
maintenance of the windrow.
Chairman McNiel stated the drainage seemed to be a major concern and there
were concerns over rodent control and wildlife preservation. He asked the
applicant what they planned to do about the wildlife.
Ms. Haight stated they would take appropriate measures to control the rodents
and would perhaps gather the larger wildlife and move the to the mountains
Chairman Mc Niel suggested they might contact the Humane Society regarding the
coyotes, and exterminate the gophers and rats.
Ms. Haight stated they had created drainage to go down to Saphire.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated the ditch along the south
property line would take drainage to Sap Sri re. As the developer was being
required to put in an Intercept Channel from Almond, there should be less
water going to Saphire. He also indicated the 6 - 8 foot trench behind the
trail would have a chain link fence beside it.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, indicated the Intercept Channel would protect the
surrounding property owners.
Mr. Cygan asked if he had to do any fencing in order to have access to the new
bridle trail .
Commissioner Chitiea stated the developer was putting in rail fencing on the
north side only.
Mr, loleman stated the City could not prevent private property owners from
putting up a fence on their own property and the trail would belong to the new
property owners. However, they could not block the trail at its end.
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s there were no further comments the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she appreciated working with the applicant during
Design Review as ;they were responsive to concerns regarding wall design and
architectural elements. They plannedgood-sized lots and were sensitive to
the viers of neighbors.
Motion: oved by Chi tiea, seconded by Blakesley to adopt the Resolution to
approve Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13738. Motion carried by
the following vote:
COMMISSIONERS: L FSLF , CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TCLSTU
US: COMMISSIONERS: F
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
M. VACATION OF A DIE GO AVENUE - From Foothill Boulevard to north of San
'ffernar jno oa - arce ap U3
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer pointed out that this matter a being
. A g
� n before goi
ng to Cat Council as
before the Pl
anning n Co
mmission brought_ g
g
required by the California Government Code.
Walt Stickner, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Jim Cline, Cucamonga County Water District .stated he was there to answer any;
questions.
Ed Combs, 445 North ,Central Avenue, Upland, asked ghat a 30 foot easement
meant.
r. Silva stated that the Foothill Boulevard Specific plan provides for
internal ingress and egress and specified that small lots should use common
ingress and egress.
Richard Chado, 8874 Foothill , Rancho Cucamonga, stated he owned two parcels in
the vicinity. He stated he wanted egress off Foothill when he developed the
parcel at the corner of San Diego and Foothill . The Planning Department made
him change the egress to San Diego. Now San Diego was being taken away. As
he plans to put in a shopping center, he did not.. want San Diego taken away.
Wally Schultz, 8513 Red Hill , Rancho Cucamonga, stated he owned the property
between+ r. C add and Mr. Combs and was concerned about restricted access
along San Diego and granted to know where the access easement would be made.
Chairman McNiel asked if a tentative plan had, been made.
r. Silva responded one had not been done as yet.
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Mr. Stickney stated the easement is depicted on a tentative parcel map
approved in June as the east half of San Diego Avenue. The majority of the
vacated street would go to Cucamonga County Water District. Portions would be
deeded back to the other property owners.
Mr. Cline stated that Mr. Chado's curb and gutter was located within the 14
feet that would be dedicated back to him. He would get a 2 foot strip of
street, curb, gutter and parkway.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, stated that the, purpose of the vacation was
primarily focused on solving a short-cut through traffic problem. San
Bernardino would still remain as a cul-de-sac street with a signalized
intersection at Vineyard. The access easement would originally be set up in
the old right-of-way, but allowing the developers to relocate it as
necessary. The 30 foot easement would allow sufficient ingress and egress,
wNile cutting down on the through traffic.
Mr. Combs asked when the 30 feet easement would be improved and what would
happen if one property owner decided to move its location.
Chairman Mc Niel stated that the intent was that when an applicant decided to
develop property and had a plan approved, they would at that time pave the
easement.
Mr. Maguire stated that the easterly 3U feet were reserved on the parcel
map, No one property owner could tale away that easement; however, they could
cooperatively move it with everyone's acceptance.
Mr. Schultz asked for a schedule and if the City would cover the expense of
removing the asphalt from his property.
Mr. Silva stated that the only thing required before the recording of the
parcel map is that the right-of-way shall be vacated. There is no condition
that the asphalt be removed until development would occur.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Ralph Hanson, City Attorney, suggested a motion be made to direct staff to
prepare a memorandum to forward to City Council that the Planning Commission
had found that the proposed vacation was consistent with the General Plan and
the Foothill Specific Plan.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to direct staff to prepare
such a memorandum. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES.* COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLCy, CHI TIC A, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
S. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT*. COMMISSIONERS: -carried
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10 P.M. - Planning Commission Recessed
1063 P.M. - `Planning Commission Reconvened
The following related items were heard concurrently
N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 11671 MISSION LAND
ssi acres n in a_r_c s r
enera Industrial Area (Subarea 11) and the Industrial Park Area (Subarea
12) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located between 4th and 6th Streets
and' between Pittsburgh and Buffalo Avenues - AP : 229-263-23 through 27.
U. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSE T AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW --2 - GILBERT AJA AND
r"e1 " as er ' an r a acre rya ar
wi
in General Industrial and Industrial Park Districts (Subareas 11
and 12) and Phase I consisting of two light: industrial buildings totaling
64, 00 square feet on 3.8 acres of land in the General Industrial District
(Subarea 11) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located south of 6th Street,
east of Pittsburgh' Avenue, south of 4th Street, and west of Buffalo Avenue;
- AP: 229-263-22-27.
Brad Buller,' City Planner, and Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented
staff reports. Mr. Hanson also requested adding a condition to the
Development evi e -2C Resolution that the Master Plan shall be subject to
the conditions of Parcel Map 11671.
Chairman McNiel asked for elaboration on why staff felt the Master Plan was
not in compliance with Subarea 12 goals.
r. Buller responded that the are
a a calls ;for a a
different land .use. than.. that
depicted in their proposal and therefore, potentially larger parcels would be
_
necessary. A condition was included in the Resolution
calling for
the
creation of two large parcels from eleven smaller ones.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Oliver, representing Mission Land Company, stated that they wanted to bond
for landscaping in the median island within 6th Street. Also, where the
smaller lots were being consolidated into 2 larger lots, he was concerned with
access. He 'stated on lots 6 and 7, Mission Land Company needed flexibility to
net the market.
John Richards, representing ission Land Company, stated they were having a
problem coming up with the Master Plan as it was difficult to showy a product
which had not yet been identified for the two larger lots. e stated they
were not ready to; develop that area.
Chairman McNiel stated the consolidation of those lots was to ! allow for
possible future development of tourist-related uses,
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Mr. Buller stated it would be possible to set aside the area in question as
future development and just show other areas on the Master Plan. Language
could be added to indicate possible future uses, access, and design of those
parcels.
Chairman Mcniel indicated he would be comfortable with that route.
Gilbert Aja, President, Gilbert Aja and Associates, objected to being required
to landscape the perimeter of each block when any development within the block
commenced. He indicated they were willing to bond for future landscaping of
other areas, but only wanted to landscape around buildings going in. He also
objected to changing the texture, design and setbacks of the proposed
buildings. He indicated the design was a continuity of approved buildings 1
and 2, and stated he felt the campus setting would be weakened by forcing a
change in architectural style.
Chairman Mc Niel asked if the streets would be going in immediately.
Mr. Richards indicated they wanted to bond and record the map and complete the
improvements within a year.
Asi there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Mc Niel asked if the property to the north had paid a bond for
improvements.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, responded they had not. He stated they
were now asking the current applicant to post a bond, and if the development
to the north wished to improve their property, they would be asked to pay at
that time.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he felt it was a mistake to require complete
perimeter landscaping. He preferred to allow the developer flexibility to
combine lots in the future.
Commissioner Chi tiea stated she would like to see 6th Street landscaped as
soon as possible.
Commissioner Emerick suggested having the developer give a master plan for
phasing in the landscaping.
Commissioner Chitiea suggested that once a parcel is developed, the entire
street frontage be landscaped.
Chairman cNiel suggested adding that when a parcel was developed the two
adjacent lots be landscaped.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she was less concerned with internal streets than
she was with 6th and 4th.
Mr. Buller suggested adding that any development along 6th Street or 4th
Street would call for= landscaping the entire street. It could also be added
Planning Commission Minutes -17- September 14, 1988
that �m other street be developed, the remainder of that street be
la
ndscaped.
ed.
Commissioner Chi tiea stated she felt there was a lack of articulation and
interest on buildings o and 7 other than the entry point®
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing to allow the applicant to address
that issue.
Dan MacDavid, principal , Gilbert Aja and Associates stated the shell grey use
on buildings 1 and 2 would be continued on buildings 6 and 7. He asked if the
Commission would accept the darker grey band continuing around the entire base
of the building.
Commissioner Chi t ea stated she would find that acceptable and preferable to
the current plan. She also stated she would like to see some interest added'
to the the entrances of the buildin
r. MacDavid stated the applicant was proposing two lunch courts between the
buildings with enriched paving and trees and that would add interest.
Chairman el recommended that the buildings be proved back.
Commissioner Ernerck stated that not only were the buildings on lots 6 and 7
in line along the strut, but also the building to the east and to the west.
r, Aja pointed out that the buildings on lots C and 7 were actually set' back.
about 25 feet from the building to the north.
Commissioner Citiea asked if the entry landscaping could be' changed to get
rid of the straight setback by possibly using more variety in the trees.
r. Aja stated they could put special landscaping to create a difference
between: the buildings. He also suggested they move the building on lot 31 to
the south to create more variation in the setbacks.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley to adopt the Resolutions
approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative parcel Map 11671 and
C Environmental Assessment and Development Review 88-20 with amendments ens to
provide landscaping of sheet frontage on adjoining lots as parcels, are
developed except for th Street which is to be landscaped concurrent with the
development ent ofphase I, relocation of the building on lot 31, a mid-tone grey
to be added around the base of the buildings on lots 6` and 7, and special
try treatments to be added to the buildings on lots 6 and 7. Motion carried
by the following vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, C ITIEA E E} ICI , MCNIEL, TOLST Y
DES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
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a 4 �F M M,
oti on: Moved by 3laesle +', seconded by Tolsoy, to adopt the Resolutions
approving Variance d and si n Review for Tentative Tract 11734 with
amendments to have the City Planner approve the exterior lighting plan and
possibly minor variations in the color scheme. Motion carried by the
following vote:
YES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERIC , MCNIEL, T LST Y
NOES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
P. VARIANCE 3 -17 - 20/20 RECYCLECENTERS request to eliminate the
rear an scape pan a he sides and rear, to eliminate
the overhead trellis or arbor, and to reduce the setback requirement from
50 feet to 20 feet for a recycling facility located at 9743 Base Line Road
in the Neighborhood Commercial District - AP : 1 77- 11-43 and 49.
Q. VARIANCE -1 - 2U/20 RECYCLE CENTERS - A request to eliminate the
requiFeT--3—To--oT--Ta-n-&s-c-a—pe---pla—n-fer--a-To—ng the sides and rear, and to
eliminate the overhead trellis or arbor for a recycling facility located
at '9477 Foothill Boulevard in the Community Commercial District of the
Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan AP : 2 2 1- 7 and 38.
R. VARIANCE - 4 2U/2U RECYCLE CE T S request to eliminate the
oo an shape aner ong the 'sides and rear, and to
eliminate the overhead trellis or; arbor for a recycling facility, located
t 975 ineteenth Street in the Neighborhood Commercial District - a
2 2-1 1-5 .
Cynthia Kinser, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman c iel opened the public hearing.
Bob Hanrath, Government Affairs Manager, 20/20 Recycle Centers, stated the
advantage of their proposed facilities was their flexibility to ove the
kiosks. He stated state legislation is pending that ;may cause the industry to
die. If the industry folded, the landscaping would remain and unnecessarily
take up parking spades. He commented that they were opposed to the
landscaping and trellis because they felt the recycling bins lose business if
they don't have visibility.
s there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the City is committed to recycling and the
facilities should not be looked at as merely a transitional use. The
Commission desired architecturally compatible and attractive facilities.
Chairman McNiel asked about the law that required the; recycling centers.
i
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Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated the onus falls ultimately on the
supermarket owners to provide recycling.
Commissioner Blakesley commented he felt a lot of thought had one into
setting up the guidelines, and he saw no reason to change them.
Commissioner erick stated the visibility argument was weak, as people do not
recycle on impulse. Those who recycle know where the receptacles are
located.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated recycling is here to stay. He felt the law might
be changed, but it would probably be strengthened. He stated the City has a
history of trying to upgrade its design. He felt visibility of the
receptacles within the parking lot is important, but aesthetics is more
important. He also stated he felt the recycling center at Stater Brothers was
ugly.
Ms. Kinser stated that each facility was required to have an approved
recycling facilities permit. If the variances were denied, the applicant
would be required to develop according to the development criteria, or have
the recycling permit revoked. In that case, the applicant would be told to
remove their facilities.
Chairman Mc Niel reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Hanrath commented that stores would have to move recycling centers inside
the stores themselves if there were no recycling centers allowed on the
parking lot. AB2020 would also require every other convenience store selling
soft drinks or beer to go to provide in-store recycling or face $100 per day
fines.
As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Mc Niel stated it was difficult for the Planning Commission to
compromise good, sound community standards to support the variances.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to approve the Resolutions
denying Variance 88-17, Variance 88-13, and Variance 88-14. Motion carried by
the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried
S. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-71 - COMMERCIAL CARRIERS, INC - An appeal of
pproximately 12
acres of land for an existing site within the Minimum Impact/Heavy
Industrial Specific Plan (Subarea 9), located on the south side of Jersey
Boulevard between Utica and Vincent Avenue - APN: 209-143-7, 8, and 9.
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Cynthia Kinser presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hear,ing.
Grant Becklund, Civil Engineer representing Rider Trucks, stated 't at when
they bought the property, the site across the street had not been developed.
When that property was developed, they were not required to build their
driveways to conform to the driveways already in place on the Commercial
Carriers' property. Therefore, he requested a variance so he would not have
to reduce his driveways from four to one and to conform to the driveways put
in after his ere in place. e felt he was now being penalized for trying to
improve his property. He also wanted lights higher than the 25 foot maximum.
s there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman McNiel stated that when anything goes through planning, they try to
catch up on items that should have been done in the past.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that: street improvements are
required when parking pavement is constructed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was under the impression that what triggered
the requirement was the paving.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the property was an eyesore that needed
improvement.
Commissioner Chi ea suggested a compromise re ardi ng the
number of driveways
a s,rr stated she felt landscaping
ndsca in as more important.
a_ _ p 9
w�a
a secon
d :drive....
` on suggested adding_
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s. Norris showed the original request of the applicant, which` proposed three
driveways.
Commissioner Chi ti ea pointed out she wanted the landscaping kept in, but was
willing to compromise on two driveways.
Commissioner l akesl ey` concurred with allowing two driveways.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated they should get landscaping and screening.,
r. Buller asked if the Commission was willing to give up the o foot perimeter
landscaping i thi n the parking lot.
The consensus of the Commission was that they did not wish to forego that..
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to ask if the applicant was
filling to continue the matter.
r. Becklund stated he would like to continue` the matter until October 26,
1988.
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As there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by C itiea, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
continue Minor Development Review 87-71 to October 26, 1988.
T. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 88-24 - DICKER-WARMINGTON
e sign revs one sa propose
retail satellite building totaling 5,807 square feet within a 15.3 acre
approved shopping center, in a Neighborhood Commercial District of the
Terra Vista planned Community, located at the northeast corner of Base
Ling Road and Haven Avenue - APR: C C1- 5.
Brett Horner, Assistant Planer presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Joy Pol ren, Project Manager for icker ar ingtdn, stated they concurred with
the staff re`ort.
s there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Motion- Moved by Tdlstoytl, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 88-24. Motion
carried by the following vote:
COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTC'Y
NOES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: -carried I
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
W. YMCA PARKING
Brad Buller, City Planner presented the staff report, He further stated that
staff recommended using the YMCA parking ratio numbers i th a Conditional Use I
Permit. If a parking problem surfaced, they could then use the Conditional
Use Permit to get the YMCA to adjust their program or schedule.
Commissioner Chi ti ea agreed.
Chairman McNiel suggested looking at peak periods and trying to determine the
number of parking spaces that would be needed.
Chairman c iel opened the public hea in .
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Pete Pitassi Architect for YMCA, gave a report stating that based on users
and facilities to be available, YMCA recommended SJ parking spaces. As the
plan they were submitting provided for 180 stalls, they felt that would be
more than adequate.
Bob Huether, General Director of West End YMCA stated available parking would
be above parking available at all other YMCA facilities. He also discussed
the variety of programs and their ability to schedule activities to avoid
overcrowding the facility.
r. Buller stated that with the current land available, YMCA would not be able
to expand the number of parking spaces without reducing the size and/or uses
of the building.
Commissioner'Chi ti ea suggested utilizing a Conditional Use Permit so than uses,
could be monitored.
Commissioner Tol stay asked how much ors-street parking was available
surrounding the site.
rBuller responded none.
Commissioner Emerick suggested encouraging the YMCA to tie into bike trails
and provide adequate bike parking.
r. Pitassi showed the amount of planned bike parking.
s there were no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
It was the consensus of the Commission that staff be directed to work with
YMCA in preparing an application for a Conditional Use Permit and work with
using the akin numbers a resented.
them _ s
g . , parking _ p
COMMISSION BUSINESS
X. TRAIL SCR COMMITTEE
Commissioner Blakesley stated the Committee members had talked i th six
applicants and selected Vickie Jackson based on her energy, enthusiasm, and
knowledge of local trails. She had also expressed interest in benefits for
non-equestrian uses. He recommended a twenty-four month tear for Ms. Jackson
as the Member—At— Large.
Commissioner Chitiea commented Ms. Jackson had an 1Year business background.
The Commission concurred with the appointment.
Commissioner Chi ti ea requested that the Commission prepare a Resolution to
thank Chris Benoit for her years of fine work on the Trails Committee.
The Commission concurred with the request.
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Y. NORTH ETIWANDA WORKSHOP.
Brad Buller, City Planner, commented that Joe Dilorio, who was putting
together onsortiu of property owners in the Sphere-of-Influence, was
willing to meet with the Planning Co i ssi n at a workshop to make
presentation regarding development taking place in the north Etiwanda area.
r ilrio proposed to discuss the pros and cons of annexation'. He asked the
Commission if they were willing to meet` following the next Design Review
committee meeting. The Commission concurred with the request.
PUBLIC' ' S
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried to
adjourn.
A.M. Planning Commission Adjourned
Respectfully submitted,
Arad ull r
Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
August 24, 1988
Vice Chairman Chita called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Vice Chairman Chitiea then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Peter Tol s,toy, Larry McNiel
(arrived at 8:55 P.M. )
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: one
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior City
Engineer; Ralph Hanson; Deputy City Attorney; Scott
Murphy, Associate Planner; Beverly Nissen, Assistant
Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez,
Secretary; Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer; Chris
Westman, Assistant Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, welcomed Gail Sanchez, the new Planning Commission
Secretary, and thanked Jan Reynolds for filling in while there was no Planning
Commission Secretary.
Mr. Buller announced that Senior Planner Dan Coleman was the proud father of a
new baby boy.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emerick to approved the minutes of
the August 10, 1988 meeting, as amended by Commissioner Chitiea. Motion
carried;with Commissioner Tolstoy abstaining.
CONSENT CALENDAR
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A. RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE
officein a
square feet within an existing industrial park i
the General Industrial District (Subarea 11), located at; the northeast
corner of Utica Avenue and Sixth Street - AP : 2C9-41 -1.7.
B. DESIGN REVIEW FO ACT 10210 - C.P. LA E - The Design Review of building
ions an are sr ` p an or o 2-1 , 1 -1 , - 7 and JU of a
previously approved tract map consisting of 33 single family lots on 39.91
acres of land in the Hillside Residential District, located north of
Almond between Turquoise and Sapphire - AP : UU-U 1- 4.
C. DESIGN REVIEW TENTATIVE TRACT 13114 - C.P. LANGE ENGINEERS - The
eslgn evie o u itg e eve ions an e a7 e s pan for a
previously approved tentative tract map consisting of 21 single family
CU acres of land i n the Low Density ( -4 dwelling
lots on y
units per acre) , located at the southeast corner of Vineyard and` Calle Del
Prado - AP : 0 -9210 , U4
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated there was a letter in front of the Commissioners
related i to Item C
Motion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Emeric , carried, to adopt Items
and B on the Consent Calendar.
C. DESIGN REVIEWFOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13114 - C.P. LANCE ENGINEERS
Vide Chairman Chitiea stated the Commissioners had a letter from uth Haas
n perimeter was only 5
on the seater..
expressing concern that the block gall y
feet high as proposed and requesting a S foot high wall .
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report,
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing. The applicant was not
present.
Walter Gustafson, 9UOO Cal'le Del Prado, Rancho Cucamonga stated he was not
able to attend the neighborhood meeting. He stated he was concerned about the
grading on lot 1U' hich would take away his view. Mr. Gustafson stated he had
designed and built his house around the vier to the south and felt he had a
right to the view.
I,
Norris showed a cross-section of grading, and stated the pad height of the
existing single-story house was 45.5 and the pad height of the proposed house`
on lot '10 was 34.3.
Jose Villalobos, 8988 Calle Del PradoRancho Cucamonga stated that he had the
sae complaint that his vier was also going to be blocked by a proposed two-
story house on lot g.
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Vice Chairman Chi ti ea asked if Mr. Villalobos had a single story house.
illalobos indicated his property was north of lot 9 and was single story .
Commissioner Emerick asked the mix of single andtwo-story houses in the
tract.
s» Norris stated 11 single story and 10 two-story.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the developer took any actions to minimize the
view concerns of the neighbors to the 'north by utilizing grading techniques.
s orris confirmed that the developer attempted to plot single-story homes
to create view corridors and lowered the pad elevations as much as possible on
both lots y and 9'where there were two-story homes.
Robert Swilley, 7499 Vineyard, Rancho Cucamonga stated he was next to lots
and 2 at the bottom of the hill . He objected to the fact that the block wall
as originally going to be a 5 foot wall and had now been cut to a 5 foot
all , because the developer wanted to ;save money. He felt a 6 foot block wall
would be appropriate for the perimeter of the tract.
Vice-Chairman C itiea pointed out that the lower wall was requested the
Design Review Committee to preserve the view for the neighbors to the north.
She also stated they were willing to listen to any concerns the neighbors had.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Blakesley agreed that a 5 foot wall seemed inadequate as a
barrier and commented ;that 'perhaps as the wall steps down the hill , it could
betaken higher when view was no longer a factor.
Commissioner `fol stogy stated he felt it was important to protect the people
already; in the neighborhood as much as possible. If they felt the wall should
be feat for pri ac,y's sake, that was important, He felt they might possibly
lower the wall on the northeast side to 5 feet to afford as much view as
possible to the people on the north side.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea pointed out that the letter requesting the wall be
raised to 5 feet was from a resident on the northeast side. She then opened `
the public hearing to ask if Walt Gustafson and dose Villalobos would like a 5
foot or` a 6 foot wall .
rw Gustafson stated 5 feet would be acceptable.
r yi l l al of obos also preferred the 5 foot wall .
s there were no further comments, Vice-Chairman Chi ti ea closed the public
hearing.
Commissioner Tol toy reiterated he would like to see the walls adjusted so
that neighbors achieved the view where important and privacy in the other part
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of, the tract. He also felt perhaps the two-story house on lot g should be
stitched to a one-story house.
r Huller stated that if a one-story house was substituted on lot g, it would
not fit because the floor plan of the single-story house would not meet all
the setback requirements on the lot. A variance would be needed to reduce the
,yard areas. He also pointed out that the second story was only about 25 to 30
feet across.
Commissioner meric stated he sat in 'Design Review and felt the developer was
northern ' »
� very conscientious err ' preserving the views o the ort ern neighbors. In
looking at the sight line elevations almost all the houses that the Commission
was concerned with were below the natural grade. The developer came up with a
two-story product with; only a 25 foot width on the second stork to further
minimize the impact on the views. He stated the prospective buyers have the
right to plant high trees. He also pointed out that the: right to a view is
not an inalienable property right. He said people have the right to buy the
downhill property to preserve them view. He felt the Commission' was
sensitive to people's views and asked that developers also be sensitive. This
developer had tried to minimize the impact, but he also needed to get a
product Brix of one and two-story, and had ochre up with mostly one story
homes» Commissioner Emerick agreed with Commissioner Tolstoy to require
font walls, reduced to S feet where necessary to, enhance views.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea agreed that the developer had been sensitive to pad
heights and building heights to mitigate the situation with the view. She
commended the developer forworking with the grade and not destroying the
height was appropriate on the north
. d that the `::foot all e� t
hillside. Shea e_ t a p p
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across from r. 'Sw��l l e s
side with the exception of property.
She stated she
would support the project with the e»chap
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d b �c to adopt the Resolution
Motion: Moved b Rlesle �, seconds er � p
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with the chap in all
approving Design eve for Tentative Tract 1 i g
height to 6 feet in some locations. Motioncarried by the following vote:
DES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, T LST'
NOES., COMMISSIONERS- NONE
ABSENT: IS I H ° S: MCNIEL carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND T TATIV TRACT 138 - PAT EL _ A residential '
su vtsaon o seven sr e amp o on acres of land in the
Very Lod Residential Zone located on the north side of Hillside Road
between Beryl Street and Hellman Avenue - AP : 11- 1-14.
Beverly Nissen, Assistant 'Planner, presented the staff report, as well as
three proposed amendments.
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Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
e applicant stated they had no comment.
Wanda Dixon, 9260 Hillside Road,; Rancho Cucamonga, stated they had purchased
their property in order~ to have privacy and view. She expressed concern that
the new` development would take away their circle driveway, or, iunder the
alternate plan the road would run into heir house. She felt the frontage
would pear substandard and reduce the value of the house because the
curvature of; the road would coo into 15 feet of the property. She felt the
new parkway would cost them a minimum of $4,000 to landscape and sprinkler,
and a minimum of per month to water. She was worried that when sewers are
brought` in they would be charged a ' larger amount because they would have
neater frontage. She stated 3 houses were 30 feet taller than the ;
surrounding homes, would eliminate their view upward, and would 'look directly
into their back yard. She felt the plan would take away their privacy, view,
and $50,000 in value of their property.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if Mrs. Dixon had seen the new proposal for the
driveway.
Mrs. Dixon indicated she had and agreed that it looked like it would work out.
Bill Silva, Deputy City Engineer, pointed out that the new proposal would not
take any additional frontage from rsEDixon's property. The corner portion
of the new street would be placed west of the driveway.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if there were any plans to put suer in at this j
time or in the near future,
Ms. Nissen responded that correspondence from Cucamonga County Water District
indicated the developer should look at the option of providing servers, but
they were not required. The developer had indicated they would provide septic I
tanks.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if there would be cost impacts on existing
residents now or in the foreseeable future.
r Silva responded only if they wanted to hook up.
0o Dixon, 9260 Hillside Road, Rancho Cucamonga indicated he had ' spoken to
Cucamonga County Water District and they assess by square footage of o lot
instead of by frontage, so that problem was solved. He indicated he was' very
pleased with the new driveway approach. His biggest concern was with the
street that close to the house he would have a tunnel 'effect, which would'
reduce the property value by $30,000.
Mary Barlow, 5434 Hellman Roads Rancho Cucamonga indicated a neighborhood
meeting a held August 16 and the main concern eras'; potential flooding. She
also felt some of the homes were set too high and should be lowered,
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Vice-Chili are Chitiea asked what the elevation of the; street was in comparison
to the lots.
r. Silva indicated that the elevation of the street is in a sag point and the
intent was in one of the conditions that in filling the channel a specific
study must be done to determine the size of the pipe needed to protect both
this development and the surrounding roperties. In checking with Flood
Control District :this is only an overflow pipe controlled by a slide gate at
l the upper end. The engineer would need to 'complete specific design studies to
satisfy both the City Engineer and the Fled Control District of the
protection of both the new development and the surrounding properties. He
also indicated the sheet would e in a sale below this development and the
surrounding properties; to the east.
Robert Rands, 5444 HellmanRancho Cucamonga stated he was pleased with how
the developer had handled him. However, the wall would only be 4 feet next to
his property; and he preferred a 6 foot wall . He also stated he had no access
to his rear ,yard, as he currently trespasses on the property of others and the
Flood Control District, and asked if the developers would 'put in an access and
a gate for him.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea indicated there had been discussion and the developer
may be willing to pot in a wall with a gate.
Commissioner 1 akesl ey asked Mr. Hands if his property would be next to the
new street.
r�. Rands confirmed he had 30 feet.,
Commissioner Blakesley' stated his impression was that the developer would work
with him.
r. Rands indicated he granted to go on record as requesting access and a 6
across hproperty.�s
foot high gall all _ _
rDixon stated that he would also heed access` from the new street`. He said
he had been been assured he would have access but he questioned how that would
affect whether the City would take on the landscaping in the district.
b d should e
for 'the project stilted he felt the driveway s
Gary Martin, architect y y � p
realigned as in condition 6 of the Resolution (prior to the revision presented;
that evening;) because it appeared there was plenty of room. He pointed out
that with the realignment of the sheet, there may be d a drainage problem
getting back under the road with the street runoff, He stated they were
willing' to compromise.
Mrs. Dixon stated that the alternate driveway would not work because the
access to the driveway off the side street would go into the house, instead of
their current driveway. Or if it gent from their driveway, that would mean
the access would come out into the curvature of the road, making it
dangerous. She also wanted the new landscaped parkway to tie in with the
landscaping currently in theDixon's front yard.
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Vice-Chairman Chitiea assured Mrs. Dixon that the City Engineer would be
willing to work with, the Dixon's regarding the landscaping.
As there was no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Ms. Nissen showed the elevations, the Dixon's home finished floor is 81.2 and
III
the finished floor of the proposed homes range from 81.7 to 114.2. She
further advised that the project was reviewed by the grading committee, which
stipulated the developer do minimal grading on the site, and utilize stem
walls on the project wherever possible.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if all the homes were two-story, and if they
utilized split levels internally.
Ms. Nissen confirmed that all the homes were two-story, utilizing stem walls.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that revised items 5, 11 and 12 presented in the
staff report seemed to answer most of the discussion questions. The two
issues that still needed to be addressed would be the all height and possible
rearrangement of the floor plans of the three highest lots (5, 6 and 7) . He
agreed that the wall should be 6 feet high.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea asked if Commissioner Tolstoy would feel comfortable in
having the developer return to the Design Review Committee to review the all
location, type of material , and gates.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed.
Commissioner Emerick agreed with Commissioner Tolstoy and further stated that
there should be a minimum of grading, and therefore the pad elevations should
be left alone to avoid gauging down deeper to the earth and creating bigger
slopes. He felt that perhaps one-story houses should be put on lots 5, 6, and
7, or perhaps go to split level .
Commissioner Blakesley agreed with their position on the wall , but stated he
did noti have much of a problem with the height because it appeared the new
houses would be quite a distance from the existing homes.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated the changes substantially mitigated the serious
problems in regard to driveway location and drainage. She felt the all
should be consistent at 6 feet and favored referring it back to Design
Review. She still felt concerned that the overall elevation might be too
high, but felt that without lines-of-sight from the concerned neighbors, lots
5, 6, and 7 should be referred back to Design Review to see if any additional
mitigation could be achieved.
Mr. Buller reiterated that if the Commission's desire was to =take action on
everything excluding those items to be sent back to Design Review, the
Resolution could be written that way; or the whole, matter could be deferred
until Design Review had already acted,
Vice-Chairman Chitiea reopened the public hearing.
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Martin pointed out that the second floor elevations of the houses on lots
and 6 were lower than the trail behind.
There being no further comment, the public hearing +as closed.
rBuller then stated that he heard the direction of the Commission to be
that conditions 5, 11, 12 be modifiedin accordance with the handout, and add
modification to condition 3 to specify a 6 foot high masonry wall and add
that the design of the wall and landscaping should be reviewed by the Design
Review o ittee prior to issuance of ibuilding permits.
Notion: Moved by Blakesley, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution '
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract 13810
with the above modifications. Motion carried by the following 'vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: L E LE , CHITIEA, EMERICK, TOLSTOY
DES: COMMISSIONERS- NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried
U P. M. -: Planning Commission Recessed
Reconvened
Planning __
P. _ Pla
Ch
airman are c ie 1 joined the meeting at this time.
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND 'VARIANCE -1 _ PULSAR - A request to reduce
i ni a e no ee wee an feet for two lots in
conjunction with a residential subdivision of 154 single family lots on
71.33 acres of land located west of Eti anda Avenue, between Summit and
Highland Avenues - AP : 22 -1 1 3 , 36, 37, 38, 49, 53, 55, 61 and 22 _'
171-C1, 09, 10, 17.
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE T 13812 - PULSAR
resi n la su vson' o sing e a `y o s- n d acres of land'
in the Vary Lori Residential District 1-2 dwelling units per acre) of the
Etianda Specific Plan and the LowResidential General an Designation �
2 dwelling units per acre) , located crest of Etiwanda Avenue, between
Summit and Highland venues - AP 22 -1 1 3 , 36, 37, 38, 49, 53, 55, 61
and' 22 -171- , 09, 10, ' 17.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff 'report and indicated four
clerical corrections on the Resolutions.
Public hearing was opened.
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