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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
June 24, 1987
Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was
held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho
Cucamonga,'° California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of
allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blake ley, 'Suzanne Chitiea,
Bruce Emerick, Larry McNiel Peter
Tol s toy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Otto Krou'til , Deputy
City Planner, Dan Coleman, Senior Planner Nancy
Fong, Associate Planner; Greg Gage, Assistant
Planner; Barye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer;
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Debra Meier,
Assistant Planner* Cindy Norris, Assistant
Planner, Karen Kissdck, Planting Commission
Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Manner, announced that after extensive recruitment
Karen Kissack will be replacing Jan Reynolds as Planning Commission
Secretary.
He also announced the printing of two new handouts of the Design Review
Process booklet and the Planning Commission booklet®
In addition, Mr. Buller requested the Design Review workshop scheduled
July 2, 1987 on fast food standards be moved to July 1 th or, August
bth. The workshop for Town Center is scheduled for duly 2, 1987 and to
eliminate two workshops after Design Review, staff recommendation would
e August S, 1987. After discussion, it was decided to hold the fast
food workshop on August 20, 1987.
Larry McNiel expressed sincere gratitude on behalf of the Planning
Commission an commended Jan Reynolds on the excellent job she had done
for the thorn.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion; Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolsty, carried, to approve the
Minutes of April 22,' 1987 as submitted.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Dave Cooper, Representative of Crowell Brothers requested Item A be
reproved from the Consent Calendar for further discussion.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 6- 5 - CITY OF
eve oilmen o a corpora ion yar an wec e
maintenance facility master plan on 5.69 ages of land in the
General Industrial District (Subarea ), of the Industrial Specific
Plan located on the south side of 9th Street between Hellman Avenue
and Vineyard Avenue - APN 09-01 - 7 4.
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-19 LENNON
ARCHITECTS - e eve opmen o a gate nrrse industRaT 5u1lT1—nJ---of-
30,0 -; quare feet on 1.635 acres of land within the General
Industrial District (Subarea 5) , located at the northeast corner of
Turner Avenue and Sharon Circle - APN 09- 51-15.
Notion: Moved by Chitiea;, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
adopt Items B and C of the Consent Calendar.
A. RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR TIME EXTENSION AND MODIFICATION of
--Vm6diffitation to
a a can ion for utility un ergroun ng and a request for an
extension of time for the project located at the southeast corner of
Base Line Road and Carnelian Street - APN 7-031- 8. (Continued
from dune 10, 1987) .
Dave Cooper, 51 North Mountain Avenue, Upland, CA representing Crowell
Brothers appeared before the Commission stating that Crowell Brothers
felt there wasn't any way they could absorb $127,OUO (+) in
undergrounding costs. If this was to be one of the conditions, they
would have to let the map expire. Request was made that they find
another mechanism to finance the undergrounding since the burden was too
great to finance. The only parcel left to be developed and contribute
to the undergrounding is the parcel between; San Bernardino Avenue to
Baseline.
Larry McNiel stated the Commission has adopted a somewhat hard line
approach to undergrounding since approximately 5C percent is
underrounded and eventually all of the city would' be udergrounded.
r. MtNi el indicated we have been working with the Chamber` of Commerce
o develop a possible assessment district to help offset some of the
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exhorbitant costs. The probabilities of getting an assessment district
were thin.
Since there were no other public comments, the public hearing on Item A
was closed.
There are two resolutions to consider before the Commission: (1) The
Resolution of Denial with respect to the undergrounding issue from two
weeks ago and (2) Approve conditionally that undergrounding; be done.
Applicant's position to obtain approval conditionally to underground and
to have an opportunity to seek and create an alternate method of
financing the undergrounding.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, suggested the Commission could
approve the map with the applicant accepting the conditions and return
with modifications of conditions if he could find another solution or
mechanism to the undergrounding issue.
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated the minutes should reflect the
intent of the Commission for this case.
Commissioner Chitiea moved adoption of Resolution of Approval in
conjunction with the minutes of discussion. Comissioner Tolstoy
seconded the motion. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, ERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-04 - DONLEY
--gENNrrT- ARCRITECTS - The aeve opmen of a neighborh—oo-d—coff-ve-r-cial-
shopp ng center-consisting of five structures totaling 30,770 square
feet on 3.8 acres of land, within the Neighborhood Commercial
District (NC) located at the southwest corner of Haven and Lemon -
AP 201-262-48.
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Staff would
recommend that the design of this building and the location of the lobe
bays go back to the Design Review Committee prior to issuance of
building permits. Subsequently, Staff recommends approval of the site
plan and building elevations and issuance of a Negative Declaration.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned whether the Haven Avenue access to the
project is a shared access with Mobil . The access agreement was done by
parcel map.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steve Connelly, Connelly-Bennett Architects, 11 Newport Avenue,
Tustin, CA
appeared before the Commission stating that the applicant will comply
with the conditions of approval .
lisha Olan, living west of the subject property,voiced her concern
about safety, privacy, and what Connelly-Bennett would be doing abet
the wall between the project and her property.
.Steve Kellogg, 6340 Haven Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, living south of the
project, questioned if the plan that is to be approved is consistent
with what the applicant had previously presented to him* He was told
that the southerly driveway would be lowered and that here would a 1
foot wall .,
Steve Donnelly, applicant, in response to the revisions made to the
grading plan, stated' that they went; through and lowered' the entire south
end of the property two feet at the minimum to allow a six foot grade
differential from top of the wall to the top of the paved surface. They
have brought it within the tolerances of Mr. Kellogg's concerns.
Landscaping issues would be addressed with neighboring homeowners.
In response to Commissioner Chitiea's question of the design of the
wall , the applicant state a concrete masonry wall with decorative block
would be used.
Commissioner Tol stay wanted to make sure that the wall on the south side
will be at least six feet and no more from the finished pavement to the
top of the wall . The westerly oral should be referred back to Design
Review. Mounding and shielding should be utilized to mitigate the
potential sound problem of the lute bays.
Commissioner Emerick expressed concern about noise, hours of restriction
of operation of the car wash, and the compatible use within
residential district.
Chairman Mc Niel reopened the public hearing for Mr. Conelly to respond
to the issues raised; by the Commission.
Mr. Donnelly stated that he and Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, had gone
over the noise study done by an accoustical engineer with the following
alternatives: 1) Constructing a block wall along the westerly side of
the property of a sufficient height to cut down on the noise, ( ) Swing
the tube function and the detail function to run north and south along
the base of the " ". They could conceivable enclose the hack side of
the building. The car wash bays would be running east and rest.
Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Planning Commission Minutes - - dune 24, 1987
Brad Buller, City Planner, provided the Commission with the following
language as a condition to modify the resolution stating a combination
of decorative walls and landscaping; blending with the existing
residential development and the proposed center shall be utilized along
the west and south property lines to insure screening of the shopping
center from adjacent residences* The plant material along the west
boundary shall include tall growing evergreen trees to provide such
screening. Plans showing the above shall be submitted for review and
approval by the City Planner prior to issuance of building permits.
Notion: Moved by Tol stay, ; seconded by Emerick, to approve the
resolution as modified. Motion was carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, EHITIEA, EMERICK, :MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87- - INLAND
'---TB< a oar a c urc wi i n an exi s ng pre sc od
facility-, or ids Only" on 1.18 acres of land in the Low Density
Residential` District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) located on the
south side of Rase Line Road, east of Turner Avenue - APN 1 7-061-
.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Mr. Ray Smith, 3937 San Lorenzo River Road, Ontario, CA agreed with the
report and recommendations of the staff.
r. Pete Potasi , 7474 Ki nl ock Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, ,stated he had
addressed his concerns with Howard Field, Assistant Planner,, with
respect to the access of the; property. There is an ;emergency access
gate at the end of Kinlock that "miraculously" opens and remains
open,The gate was intended for emergency purpo es only and was to remain
closed.
r. Michael Boyd, 707 Arlington Place, Rancho Cucamonga, spoke for
Inland Fellowship, in regards to the gate and the access on a Sunday.
They were not aware it was to remain closed but agreed to not use it and
would park only in the parking` lot off Base Line.
Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Ehitiea expressed concern about the potential pedestrians
crossing Base Line Road and if there is not enough parking within the
;parking lot. She also raise concern with potential parking in the
neighborhood to the south.
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Chairman McNi el agreedthe gate off of Kinlock should remain closed and
referred this matter to staff.
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated the Commission could add `a
condition to an addition to the Resolution prohibiting parking on the
southern portion of :the lot and that the gate is to regain locked. The
minutes will reflect Commissioner Chitiea's concern of parking on the
opposite of Base Line Road and if jaywalking is occurring this could
be grounds for reconsideration or revocation of this Conditional Use
Permit, Parking into the southern neighborhood would be a concern. .
Concern of the ' Commission is with the restricted parking, with regards
to health and safety of the pedestrians and drivers.
Commissioner Tolstoy moved adoption of the Resolution with the Condition
that parking shall not be permitted on the southern portion of the site
and that the gate shall remain locked at all times. He supported
Commissioner Chitiea's concern with parking on Base Line and agreed if
this does become a' problem i should` b rounds for
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revocation.Commissioner Blakesley seconded the motion. Motion was
tarried by the following vote:`
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICk, MCNIEL, T LSTOY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried
F. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 85-14 AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
e rogues o mo - Y e approve acre
as er FM y eliminating Buildings C and a and replacing with
parking spaces, in the General Industrial District, (Subarea ,
located at the northwest corner of gth Street and Archibald Avenue -
APN 209-021- ,17,05.
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner,' presented: the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if any more specific designs for pedestrian
amenities had been submitted.
Public hearing was opened by Chairman McNiel .
Cheri Tar ington, 516 North Orange, Riverside, CA agreed to the
conditions of the staff report.
Since there were no other public comments, the public hearing was
closed®
Commissioner Chtiea recommended the plaza area on the northeast side of
Building A referred to Design Review Committee for approval prior to
release of occupancy for tenants in Building 4.
Planning Commission Minutes -6- June 24, 1987
Commissioner Chitiea moved adoption of the resolution as modified,
seconded by Commissioner Emerick, Motion carried by the following votes
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EEAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOO STCY
ROES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: HONE
--carried
Chairman McNiel suggested advancement of Item M, with the indulge rent of
the Commission, staff, and audience, because their are many adolescents
here for this item.
M. MINOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 86- SOLOM N Appeal of staff's
Fesion enrng a reques a oar a a eooard rare in ar
area ofa single farily� silence located a 1C amanita
e A�FN 01 g81-11.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. The staff
recommends that the Planning Commission conduct a public hearing and
deny ;the appeal of Minor development Review 86- .
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Marc Solomon, 10007 Man anita Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, CA, appeared
before the Commission stating he felt that the staff report was biased
and unobective against this issue. He stated he has been trying to
obtain city approval for two years. He has itaken steps to correct the
problems addressed such as garbage, more people, traffic, privacy, and
noise. Restrictions of the ramp would be made to comply with the
neighbor's wishes such as shorter hours, limiting day use on Sunday,
etc. Other issues Mr. Solomon addressed were disregard of neighbors,
lower property value, commercial attraction, the 'ramp being an eyesore
and privacy. Full safety equipment is required to ride the ramp in Mr.
Solomon's backyard. None of the neighbors that opposed this issued were
present at the meeting. Mr. Solomon feels he has broken no lawns, he has
no ill intentions, and trys to comply with his neighbors' concerns.
Commissioner Emerick ques,tioned the contest that was held last summer.
About' 15 people with 40 entries were there. This was done to help
raise money to buy materials for the ramp. Money is not charged for
usage' of the ramp, only donations. 'Limits are now set for ten people,
average about five to seven people.
Mr. John Knickolopilus, 616 Glenlock, Alta Lora, CA expressed his
favortism regarding the skateboard ramp, stating that it was well
organized, well disciplined, no abusive language, and riders are
required to wear safety gear.. He felt Mr. Solomon was providing a
service in educating young citizens in citizenship.
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Ms. Sarah Brock., 10007 Manzanita, Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, owner of the
property, stating her son, Marc Solomon, has certain guidelines to
follow in keeping the skateboard ramp. There is no alcoholic beverages,
no smoking, no drugs, or foul language allowed whatsoever. All riders
have to sign a release, if a minor, it has to be notarized and signed by
parents.
Since there were no other public comments, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Emerick stated he did not see any of the writers of the
letters opposing this issue at the meeting. Concerns of Mr. Emerick
were noise, too many people, and cars. Liability is not a concern,
applicant is taking the risk and felt the City is not sharing the
liability.
Commissioner Blakesley expressed his primary concern was unsightliness,
yet was impressed with it being a well-organized civic activity.
Commissioner Chi ties was impressed with Mr. of or
m s speech and
rebuttal and was surprised that the people who had written 'the letters
Caere not at the meeting. The fact that it was unfenced' made it an
attractive nuisance, and she was not sure that the chain across the
bottom is adequate solution.
Commissioner Tolstoy's primary concern was the non-fenced aspect of the
project. In addition, he wanted to commend Mr. Solomon on the
tremendous presentation of his case and wanted to support this issue.
Chairman McNiel found only two problems: (1) Sound/Noise which is being
mitigated; Q) Visual problem - sitting out in the middle of the
yard.After two years in operation, neighbors who oppose the ramp did not
express their opinions at the meeting. Commissioner McNiel suggested
perhaps conditioning its use and to numbers of people. Referral to
staff regarding the unsightliness of the skateboard ramp and landscaping
was suggested.
Brad Buller, City Planner, recommended the item be continued for two
weeks to prepare a Resolution of Approval with conditions for the
Consent Calendar. Staff would meet with the applicant to develop the
conditions of approval .
Commissioner Tolstoy moved, seconded by Commissioner Chitiea, to
continue the item for two weeks to work with staff. Motion was carried
by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
-carried
8:40 p.m. - Planning Commission Recessed
8:50 p.m. - Planning Commission Reconvened
G. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 87-01 - HARRY C'S - The review of proposed
sc J&giy" dMg` VbZils ' i5a 51aying records nightly in
conjunction with a restaurant/night club, located at 10877 Foothill
Boulevard.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman cNiel opened the public hearing.
Mr. Mike Miller, District Manager of Harry C's, questioned the uniformed
officer condition of the Resolution. They do have four employees
(lounge hosts) dressed in suit and tie for crowd control , would this be
acceptable to the Commission.
Mr. Coleman stated the ordinance provides for "a duly licensed and
uniformed security guard at all times dancing is permitted or allowed".
Mr. James Barton, 8409 Utica Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, CA appeared
before the Co mission stating he was the owner of the property and
further questioned the issue of a security guard. The restaurant
supplies four security-type people and the presence of 'a security guard
would be demeaning to the class of the establishment. He suggested the
condition be waived.
Mr. Coleman rebutted that neither the staff nor the Commission have the
authority to waive the condition which is an ordinance requirement
established by the City Council .
Public hearing was closed by Chairman McNiel .
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested the person be dressed appropriately with
a badge with name and identification of his purpose.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that the licensing refers to
the state procedure set forth for security guards, a process which can
be attained through security companies or individuals. The uniform
indicates a visual presence which stands out from the customers.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, further reiterated the Commission can not
waive a condition that is required by the ordinance, but may take action
as a matter of interpretation of the condition of what constitutes a
uniform.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
Mr. ,dim Barton further questioned the interpretation of licensed
security guards. He felt that the City had not reached the paint of
having an officer protect us in the restaurant/dance facility. �t
Commissioner Emerick stated that where alcoholic beverages are being
served, this particular ordinance is appropriate and supports Council #s
action.
The Commission agreed a uniform did not necessarily mean a police or
security guard uniform.
Chairman McNiel. closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy moved adoption of the resolution with the security
ward licensed according to ordinance as interpreted. Commissioner
mericR seconded the motion. Notion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKESLEY, C ITIEA, E ERIC , MCNIEL, TOLSTUY
RUES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried
H. ENIRUN ENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITION USE PERMIT B `-� 1
reques o es ta b Irs a , square
0o c u wri 5 an existing 11,826 square foot multi-tenant
industrial facility int he General Industrial Land Use District,
(Subarea , located at 9507 Arrow Highway, Building 7, Suite N
Cindy;Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
r. Mark Rushing, 6905 Dakota, Rancho Cucamonga, CA , Pastor of
Orangewood Baptist Church, appeared before the Commission stating that
they have already met with Foothill Fire District and have received
preliminary report which requires, panic bars and extinguishers. They
are getting bids on panic bars and extinguishers at this time. Beyond
that, they are in agreement with the conditions and provisions stated in
the Resolution.
Seeing no further comments, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
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Commissioner Chitiea moved adoption of the resolution, Commissioner
Emeri`ck seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote}
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RLAIESLEY, CHITIEA, E E IC , MCNIEL, T LST Y
DOES.?, COMMISSIONERS: ROVE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: ROBE
--carried
I. ENVIRONMENTAL SESS'ENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 7-11 - SUMITOMO
ORMUCTIO e eve d en o i am un s n
tTi "mod within the Medium Residential District -14 dwelling
units per acre located on the north side of lgth Strut, 350 feet
east of Hellman Avenue - APN 01- - . In addition, the applicant
has filed a Tree Removal Permit'.
Applicant has made a request continue to a date unspecified; Item I
removed from the agenda.
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT' 13441 - ILLI LYON
en a roc su division o acres of an
TRVo-"' 115- single family lots in the Low-Medium Density Residential
District 1 -8 dwelling units per acre) within the Victoria Planned
Community, located at the northeast corner of Victoria Park Lane and
Kenyon Way - APN 227-011-07.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Md i el` opened the public hearing.
Mr. Stephen Ford, representing the William Lyon Company, appeared before
the CommissionA stating they accept the conditions outlined by the staff
report.
Since there were no further comments, Chairman McNiel closed the public
hearing.
Commissioner Tblstoy moved adoption of the resolution, Commissioner
Chitiea seconded the motion. Motion was carried by the following vote'.
YES:' COMMISSIONERS: RLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, E ERIC , MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
ES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried
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Chairman McNiel stated Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan is designed to
enhance Foothill Boulevard by expanding and beautifying it, in addition
to increasing the property value.
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City Planner, stated that furniture 'stores were
specifically not included in the plan, but conditionally permitted
clothing stores, and not wholesale, warehouse, or discount stores were
in the language of the plan.
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Chairman M Niel reopened the public hearing.
r. Jeff Seranka expressed a concern should the to "discount" stores
be used. He believed it would be difficult to determine what is
"discount". the determination and interpretation o the Commission of
"discount"
stores.
The public heaving was closed by Chairman McNiel .
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated that the primary issue for the
Thomas Brothers Winery site is Design and the desire to protect and
enhance the historical nature of the site. A secondary matter' is the
control on the type of uses permitted. The uses permitted are to
support and not work against the strong design goals for the site.
Otto Kroutil , Deputy City; Planner, indicated that additional information
on median islands Will be placed in the appendix of the document.
Commissioner Chitiea moved to continue Item K as modified to the duly 8,
1987 meeting for consideration of the adoption of the plan.
Commissioner Emeerick seconded; the motion. Motion was carried by the
following ;vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: HLA ESLE , CHITIEA, EMERICk ,' MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried
L. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN
review an Cons?der is rec'o en a i n or certification of the
Draft Environmental Impact Report for the Foothill Boulevard
Specific Plan project. The specific Plan consists of detailed land
use regulations and standards for the development along Foothill
Boulevard between Grove Avenue and Haven Avenue, between the I-15
Freeway and East Avenue.
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Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report on the EIR
for the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing; seeing no comments, the
public hearing was closed.
Commissioner TblstoY moved to continue Item L to the July B, 1987
meeting; motion seceded by Commissioner Emerick. Motions was carried by
the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, E EBICK, MCNIEL, T4LSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried
NEW BUSINESS
N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 2 - N NDI N
propo;sIa o cons rue o ware Dose ings b a ing
square feet on '6.25i acres in the General Industrial
District, Subarea 5, located south ' of 6th Street adjacent to an
A`,T.& S.F. rail spur west of Lucas Ranch Road - AP 210-a71-5 .
Chris> Wes an, ; Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He
pointed out that in regards to Recommendation 5 in the Resolution, the
Design Review Committee felt that with extra landscaping on the west
property line of the adjacent property which is under the same ownership
as the project site, it would be appropriate to waive the five yard
setback.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing.
r. Mark Elliott, an employee of the Nalbandian Group, appeared before
the Commission to answer any questions or address any comments.
Since there were no further public comments, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Tdlstoy moved, Commissioner Chtiea seconded adoption of
the resolution. Motion was carried by the following vote.
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AYES. COMMISSIONERS: BLA ESLEY, CNITIEA, EMERICK,; MCNIEL, TCLSTUY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
--carried'
COMMISSION BUSINESS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced the cancellation of the Victoria
Lakes tour on June 27, 1987. Two other date were discussed, 7/I8 and
7/ 5/87 for rescheduling of the tours. Mr. Harlan Glenn, consultant,
would be available for the tour.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by T l stay, seconded by Emeri k, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
10:30 p.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
B AdBuklle0r %&00�
Deputy Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION/STAFF
WORKSHOP
Friday, June 12, I987
Tolstoy Residence
Commissioner's Present: Chairman Larry McNiel , Vice-Chairperson Suzanne
Chitiea, !David Blaksley, Bruce Emerick, Peer Tolstoy
Also present Mayor Dennis Stout
Staff Present. Jack Lam, Brad Buller, Dan Coleman, Otto Kroutil
Following is an outline of the discussion that took place between the
Planning Commission and 'staff members.
I. PERCEPTION OF ROLES
Planning, Commission Staff
policy maker policy implementor
arbitrator educator
negotiator researcher
interpret policy public ombudsman
balance public vs. private interest professional
shoe./long range planning technicians
permit processor
set standards
public representative
non-political decision makers
There may be overlap of roles between staff and the Commission.
11. OVERCOMING BARRIERS TO COMMUNICATION
o Commission should focus on precedence/policy.
o Need to understand surrounding land uses' - "context".
o Staff needs to do a better job of educating council on what
Planning Commission is doing, especially on appeals.
o Communication between City Council and 'Commission needs to be
improved. There should be a report back to Commission on what
action of Council decision was and why.
GROUP DYNAMICS
Important Factors
Setting
Reports
Common goal
Clear/Up"to date Communication
Respect
CITY OF RANCHO CL JICNGA
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III. MEETINGS
A. Conducting Meetin s
1. Chairman plays key role In controlling meetings.
. Need to "formalize" slightly
a. Don't debate with audience.
b. Questions of staff should be limited to simple
clarifications prior to public hearing.
c. Don't state opinions until after public hearing don't
"prejudge"
d. Call staff before meetings for more detailed questions.
e. Appropriate to ask certain questions to have answer
stated into the record by staff.'`
. Commission shouldn't weigh economics in their decision
king.
4. Need to make consistent decisions to send clew messages to
developers and public on policies.
. Basis for the action.
a Goals
b Policies
c. Plans (i .e,. General Plan)
B. Expediting Meetings
1. Consensus not necessary on all matters.
2. Not everybody needs to say something.
. Control public input.
4. Go through the Chairman.
5. Rules of Order.-
Public Commission
Hearin Discussion
Structured Informal
Open - but monitored by
Chairman
6. Purpose of reopening Public Nearing should be to receive
additional factual evidence, not to allow debate.
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C. ;Design Review Committee Meetings
1. Staff will start consent calendar at 5. 0 sharp.
. Pre-review with staff is crucial .
J. Staff should provide all information (i .e. - grading plan
on the wall or table.
. Function of CRC is design review not design!
5. ORC are the arbitrators and protectors of quality.
. Shouldn't upgrade mediocrity.
7. Ways to deal with "tough" reputation:
a. .Staff should let DRC know which approach to take
depending wort applicant's attitude.
b. Expedite process whenever 1possible by assessing range
of projects - which tines really need to come back to
RC vs those that staff can handle.
. Staff must; be proficient in design in order for DRC to
refer revisions back to staff to work out with developer.
9. Meetings should have an "air of authority" that gives
Committee a psychological advantage.
o. Meetings should be more structured:
a. Start with formal introductions.
b. City Planner/Senior Planner explain purpose.
c. Staff Presentation
d. Applicants Presentation
e. Committee discussion
f. Summarize
11* ion-participatory staff should be out-of-the-way.
12. Meetings have been too casual with people wandering around,
eating, talking which creates distraction.
IV. JOB FACILITY
A. How staff can make Commission's job easier?
1. Make recommendations whenever possible.
2. Send clues/signals to Commission, especially where there i
a' silent "human" factor involved.
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. Show slides of project sites and surrounding area.
4. Emphasize context in reports and prior decisions in like
situations.'
. Improve communication from PC to CC - explain to Council
the "why" behind the Commission's decision*
6. Report back to Commission ghat Council decision was` on
appeal or policy matters.
7. Wait to be directed by Chairman to respond to questions by
audience.
g. How Commission can make staff's job easier:
. Establish direction - what needs to be done?
2. Call staff before agenda to ask detailed questions.
. 'Visit project sites whenever possible.
4. State reasons for decisions clearly and concisely,
especially on items that are likely to be appealed.
. Be consistent in decisions.
Y. GOALS/POLICIES
A. City Council sets goals by balancing differing community
concerns.
B. Planning Commission has discretionary power to establish
policies to implement goads.
C. One Council goal is to encourage commercial growth - up to
Commission to determine the best way to implement goal through
policies applied to specific projects.
U. Commission should be monitoring their decisions constantly for
feedback by touring new development.
VI. ADJOURNMENT TO REGULAR DUNE `24 MEETING
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CITY OF RAN C RANCHO CL� AMCNG
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
June 10, 187
Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7-00 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT; David glakesley, Suzanne Chitia, Bruce
Emer*ick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tl stdy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT .- Brad Buller, City Planner; Gan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner; Howard Fields, Assistant
Planner; Garrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph
Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, Bill Holley, Community
Services Director; Russell Maguire, City Engineer; Scott
Murphy, Assistant Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner;
Janice Reynolds, Planning Commission Secretary; doe Stofa,'
Associate Civil Engineer
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the going away luncheon for Captain
John Futscher of the Sheriff' s Department would be held t the Magic Lamp on
Friday, dune 19th.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Chtiea, seconded to Tols .oy, carried, to approve the
Minutes of April 8, 1987 as submitted.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, carried, to approve the
Minutes of April 29, 1987 as submitted.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87_05 - LUSK COMPANY - A
proposal to bui 1 a 9,070 square foot speculative i ndustri b0 i rag on
.69 acre of land in are Industrial Park District, Subarea 6, located on
the north side of Trademark Street east of Center Street' - AN 210-881-
05. `'
B. APPROVAL OF ADVERTISING SIGN FOR PROPOSED VICTORIA GARDENS REGIONAL
SHOPPING CENTER
Motion: Moved by Tol stay, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to adopt;
the Consent Calendar as submitted.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 86 37 - KEI "H COMPANY/LUSK
C MPANY - The; developmnt of a MaRer P ab for a 79.17 acre 'industrial
park consisting of 33 lots in an Industrial Park District, Subarea 16,
located at the northwest quadrant of 4th Street and Archibald Avenue - APN
210-062-02, 11`, 15, 26, 82 and B . (Continued from May 1 , 1987 .
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND 11 TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10898 - KEITH'
COMPANY LUSK COMPANY - A subdivision of 79.2 acres of land into 33 parcels
in the Industrial Park District, Subarea 16, located at the northwest
corner of Archibald Avenue and Fourth Street - APN 210-062-13, 11, 02 26,;
83 and 52. (Continued from May 13 1987) .
Chairman McNiel announced that the applicant for the above item was requesting
continuation of the public hearing to September 9, 1987. He then opened the
public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing
ng for Environmental
enta Assessment and Development
Review 86- 7 and Environmental Assessment ;and Tentative Parcel Map 10393 to
September 9, 1987.
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 136 - WI LIAM LYON
C MPANY A tote residential development of 806 con ominiu units on
24.67 acres of lard in the Medium 8-14 dwelling units per acre) and
Medium-High (1 -24 dwelling units per acre)' Residential Districts within
the Victoria Planned Community, ' located at the northwest corner o
Victoria Park Lae and Milliken Avenue - APN 02-211-13 and 14.
(Continued from May;1 , 19,87) .
Planning Commission Minutes - - dune 10, 1987
Chairman McNiel announced that the applicant for this" item was withdrawing the
application.
E. MODIFICATION TO TENTATIVE TRACT 12902 - NRDIC ;- A request to modify a
condition of approve requiring a Community Equestrian Trail on the west
side of the drainage course for a custom lot subdivision,: of 28 lots on
39.7 acres of land in the Very Low Density Residential District '(less than
2 dwelling units per acre) , located at the southwest corner of Hermosa
Avenue and Almond Street - APN 201-071-05, 06, 26, 26, 36 and 36.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Barbara 0rimley, '5360 Hermosa, Rancho Cucamonga, requested that a gate or
fence be erected at the northwest corer of her property to prevent
trespassers. Ms. 0rimley stated that she had contacted San Bernardino County
Flood Control with respect to this issue.
Chairman McNiel directed staff to assist, Ms. Grimley in an attempt to resolve
this issue.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed,
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving the Modification to Tract 12902 Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES- COMMISSIONERS: C IT'IEA, TOL T Y, BLA E9'LEY, 'EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS:: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 1 444 - BARTON'
DEVELOPMENT _ A sub i vi si on bf 12.6 acres of l and into parse s in the
Industrial Park (Subarea 7) , located at the southwest corner of Foothill`
Boulevard' and Spruce Avenue - APN 208-351-23.
Joe Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jiro Barton, 8409 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, concurred with the Conditions of
Approval .
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There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental ` Assessment and
Tentative Parcel Map 10444. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS. EMERICK, 'TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, 'CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS NONE -carried;
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10295 - LEWIS HOMES m A
subdivision of 112 acres `o land into 4 arc s in the Terra 'Vista
Planned Community located on Elm Avenue, crest of Milliken Avenue - APM
1077-421-1 , 13.
Joe Stow, Associate Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
John Melcher, representing Lewis Homes, ; concurred with the Conditions of
Approval'.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative'
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Parcel Map 125. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, RLAKESLE , EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. NONE carried
H. EN
VIRONMENTAL
E V1 ONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
S EN T AND TENTATIVER TACT 146_ WILLIAMS PROPERTY
CONSULTANTS «� A resi ent' al subdivision of S logs on 9.7 acres of land in
the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre) located on the
northeast corner of Hellman Avenue and Tryon Street - (In addition;, the
applicant has filed a Tree Removal Permit) - APN 208.111-0 .
Howard Fields, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
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Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the feasibility of preserving the Magnolia
tree on Lot 13. He felt that since the pad required elevation, it would not
be possible to preserve the tree and it should be removed."
Commissioner Fmerck stated that an arborit should study the preservation of
the tree and that possibly a three foot well around the tree might be
feasible.
Con Miralle, representing the applicant, opposed the elevation of the building
pad along Hellman Avenue. He indicated that he was told by representatives of
FFMA that he could submit Mans to them and have the lots released from the
Flood Heard designation. He stated that his engineers could mitigate the
flooding concern on Hellman without raising the elevation of the pads. He
indicated that the existing Magnolia tree could be preserved if the pads were
not elevated.
Mr. Berkowitz, project developer, opposed the utility ; undergrounding
requirement. He stated that utlity, undegrounding would add approximately
30 ,000 to the cost of developing the project. He felt that this was an
unreasonable condition in that there are existing poles along Hellman which
would remain ;standing from Foothill to Base Line and his project only fronted
Hellman for 630 feet. He supported the formation of an assessment district.
He additionally asked that his project engineers be allowed to address that
pad elevation issue.
Diane Rionico, resident: on 'Hemlock Avenue, was concerned with the flooding
along Hellman and requested that this project be required to install all
necessary improvements. She was concerned that the grading of the project
pads would further flood the existing ,homes on Hemlock.
David Kay, 9420 Tryon;, Rancho Cucamonga, asked if the project was being
constructed with alleys.
Mr. Buller advised that alleys were not proposed for this project.
Debra Estrada, 781 Layton, Rancho Cucamonga, asked if the existing 'wall
between her property and the proposed development would be replaced by the
applicant.
Mr. Buller advised that a condition of approval required the construction of a
foot high common masonry wall along the project' s eastern boundary.
Mr. Miralle once again addressed the Commission requesting that his engineers
be allowed to pursue the grading issue of the pads along Hellman in an attempt
to mitigate the flooding, at which time he would submit plans to FEMA to have
the Flood Hazard designation removed.
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Russell Maguire, City Engineer, addressed Mr. Miralle' s request and advised
that the appropriate position would be for the Commission to approve the
Conditions as submitted. He stated that the requirement to raise the
elevations of the pads was a direction of the City Council by Ordinance 240,
which would have to go through a normal amendment. He suggested that the
Commission continue the item until the Flood Maps are amended so that the City;
could properly address Ordinance 240 and the section of the Code which places
flood protection requirements on the City Engineer.
Mr. Mi ral l e requested that the optional grading alternative" be left as a
possible' solution at this time.
Chairman McNiel stated that the Commission could not act outside the terms of
the Ordinance since this would be in violation of the laws. He asked if Mir.
M»Miralle would like a continuation of the public hearing to address the issue.
Mr. Miralle stated he would prefer to have the conditions approved as written
with the understanding that his engineers could come back; with possible'
solutions.
Mr. Maguire advised the; applicant that: his engineers could, continue to try and
mitigate the concern.. The applicant could then submit these plans to FEMA and
if FFMA, does indeed remove the Flood Hazard designation from the Flood Map he
could request a modification of the conditions of approval.
Thee were no further comments, therefore the pudic hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that because of the serious flooding problems
which exist on Hellman and ;the existing Ordinance, he could not support the
elimination of any of the conditions of approval . He further stated that he
could not see any other solutions to the problem in lied of raising the pad
elevations.
Chairman McNi l concurred and further stated that the City could not place the
lives of its citizens in jeopardy by eliminating the condition. He felt that
the cost to the applicant of transporting dirt to the site to raise the
elevation of the pads could not begin to compare with the cost of saving
lives. Relative to utility undergrounding, he advised the applicant that the
requirement to underground was a policy of the Planning; Commission and the
City Council , therefore he could not support the elimination of th
> pp_ e
condition.
Commissioner Emeri k supported approving the Resolution as submitted, with the
understanding that if the applicant comes in with a >better solution he could
seek a modification of the conditions. He felt that the applicant' should be
allowed to work on a solution for preserving the Magnolia tree.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred and recalled flooding of the street in the past
which resulted in the loss of lives. She stated she would not be comfortable" I
with any sort of berming considering` the force of the water unless it was
absolutely proven to be a solution. The only way she would consider approving
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the project would be with the conditions as written. She asked that staff
further ' research the drainage of the lots which might affect the drainage on
Hemlock to assure that they do not impact on the existing homes on that
street. Her concern was that the pad elevations would be raised above the
existing lets to the north.
Motion. Moved by Tolst y, seconded by Em rick;, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution;' approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 1376. ' Motion carried by the following votes
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: TCLSTCY, EMERIC , BLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: ' COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
. 5 p. . - Planning Commission Recessed
B: S p. . - Planning Commission Reconvened with all members present
I. CONDITIONAL O E PERMIT 87-1 _ EO ARDS RANCHO CUCAMONGA` THEATER - The
proposed—addition of 12 amusement devices' in an existing recreational
facility located in the General Commercial 'District, 7988 Haven Avenue -
ARN 1077-661-07, and OB.
Cindy Norris, Assistant. Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman cNi el opened the public; hearing.
Hugh Randolph, representing Edwards Cinema, gave an overview of the request.
There were no further comments, therefore the public 'hearing was closed.
Motions Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Blakesley, to adopt ; the Resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 87-18'. Motion carried by the following votes
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY,' CNIT'IEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL`
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. NONE' carried
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J. TIME EXTENSION AND MODIFICATION OF CONDITIONS - PARCEL MAP ;57 C - CR NELL
RR TITERS - A modification to add a condition for utility undergrounding
and 'a request for an extension of time for the project located at the
southeast corner of Rase Line Road and Carnelian Street - APN 07-031- N.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that based on non-compliance with conditions of an
earlier Resolution, she could not support the time extension.
Chairman McNiel questioned the applicant's absence from the hearing.
Russell Maguire, City Engineer, pointed_ out that the Commission
scion received a
letter from Harry Crowell , which objected to the in =lieu fee for
undergroundin . He stated if the Commission decision'wa to deny the request,
staff should be directed to prepare a Resolution of Denial for the June 22nd
agenda.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by' Emerick, unanimously carried, to direct
staff to prepare a' Resolution denying Time Extension for Parcel Map 5786 to be
plated on the June 22, 1987 agenda.
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ETI ANOA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 7- 1 - CITY
UNT
O NCH CUCAMONOA - An amendment to modify the Etiwan a fi Specic Plan as
follows: Figure 5-18 "Community Trails" , by relocating the Community
Equestrian Trail to the south side of 24th Street east of the Loop Road;
Figure 5- 9 "Improved Sidewalks" , to eliminate the sidewalk on the south
side of 24th Street, east of the LoopRoad; and Figure 5-3 " 4th Street,`
East of Loop" , to show a 96 foot street right-of-way with a 20 foot
Community Equestrian Trail on the south side parkway.
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.:
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Frost, 12996 Victoria, Rancho Cucamonga,' gave the history, of trail
development during the Etiwarda Specific Plan process. Mr. Frost stated that
the sidewalk should be required on the south side of 24th Street.
Jim Barton, 8409 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that the City should not be
eliminating sidewalks to construct trails. He felt that the residents of the
City who use equestrian trails are diminishing in numbers and cautioned that
the City will eventually end up with a grail 'system that is abandoned and
unused.
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Prances O' Donnell , Rancho Cucamonga resident, was concerned that placement of
the sidewalk on the south side of 24th Street would take her property.
Mr. Buller advised that the right-of-way shown would permit a sidewalk®
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that the Resolution exhibit could be
modified to reflect a 10 foot equestrian trail and a 4 foot sidewalk on the
south side of 24th Street
Commissioner Chitiea pointed out that this trail is part of the community
trail system and is designed for multi-purpose use, not strictly equestrian
use. She stated the amendment is` appropriate and supported the recommendation'
to the City Council .
Commissioner Tolstoy supported the concept of requiring the sidewalk on the
south side of 24th Street.
Motion: Moved by Ch tiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
recommending approval of Environmental Assessment and Etiwanda Specific plan
Amendment 87-01 to the City Council , with a modification to the exhibits to
reflect a minimum 10 foot equestrian trail and 4 foot sidewalk on the south
side of 24th Street. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHIT EA, TOLSTOY, B A ES EY, EMERICK, M NIEL
NOES- COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carded
NEW BUSINESS
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 7-1.0 - SOUTHWEST SAVINGS
- A propose to construct a two-story office;�bank 6i7d ng of g,tIOO square
feet in the Neighborhood Commercial District located at the northeast
corner of Base Line Road and Archibald Avenue - ARN O - SIB.
Can Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment*
Albert CeOugliel o, representing the applicant, stated concurrence with the
Conditions of Approval *
Where were no further comments,
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Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea to; issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Development Review 87-10. Motion carried by the following vote':
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TCLST Y, CHITIEA, BLAKES`LEY, EMERIEK, M NIEL'
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. NONE -carried
M. CENTRAL PARK MASTER PLAN DESIGN
Bill Holley, Community Services Director, presented the conceptual design for
the Central Park Master Plan to the Commission and responded to questions
relative to the design.
Chairman McNil opened the public hearing.
Jim Frost, 12996 Victoria, Rancho Cucamonga, supported the conceptual design
and commended the open space proposed in the plan.
Andre Sato, 7121 Parkside, Rancho Cucamonga, addressed the Commission on
behalf of the surrounding residents who were concerned with the location of
the; parking lot and also the proposed lighting.
Tim` Masters, Rancho Cucamonga resident, supported Mr. Soto' s comments and
echoed his concerns relative to the parking lot- location and proposed
lighting.
r. Holley advised that this design is conceptual and would be reviewed by the
City Council on July 1, 1987. He dvi ed that the residents could contact his
office with their concerns.
It was the consensus of the Commission to forward the Central Park Master Plan'
design to the City Council for their consideration on July 1 , 1987.
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
N. RESULTS OF APRIL 29 198 UTILITY UNDER-GROUNDING` WORKSHOP
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
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Don Miralle, representing Williams Property Consultants, suggested that the
minimum length for undergrounding be increased to 1,000 feet and that the
Commission also consider the nature of the street on which the project was
located.
Jim Barton, 8409 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, supported the formation of an
assessment district for which all property owners in the City would be
assessed undergrounding fees.
There were no further comments.
Commissioner Chitiea stated at the last meeting she was unaware of the
percentage of projects that would be exempt if the minimum length was
increased to 600 feet and suggested that the 300 foot minimum be retained.
She felt this minimum footage should be retained until such time as an
assessment district is considered.
Commissioner Tolstoy was concerned with not allowing special consideration for
corner lots on small parcels and suggested that further study be done on that
issue. He was concerned that the cost for a small parcel owner would prohibit
them from improving or developing their parcel .
Commissioner Emerick agreed and stated that this cost ultimately would be
passed to future homeowners. His concern was that the policy would make it
very difficult to develop in the City.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that utility undergrounding is one of those
issues which more than likely will be brought before the Commission many times
for modification. He suggested that the Commission act on the Resolution as
presented with the understanding that any studies can be conducted. He
pointed out that staff was seeking some direction to proceed in future review
of projects.
Barrye Hanson advised that the Resolution contains the provision that the
requirements for projects could be modified.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving the revised policy for undergrounding existing utilities, with the
300 minimum footage for exemption retained. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: BLAKSELSY -carried
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C. ' CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS BUDGET
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, and Blane Frandsen, Senior Civil Engineer,
presented the Capital Improvement report.
ChairmaniMcNiel invited public comments. There were none.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
recommend approval of the Capital Improvements Projects to the City Council .
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ROTATIONS
Beginning August 1, 1987, Commissioners Tolstoy ;and Emerick will serve on the
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Residential Design Review Committee; Commissioners Chitiea and Blakesley will
serve on the Commercial Design Review Committee. Chairman McNiel will serve
as alternate. The next; rotation of the Committees will be January 1, 1988.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Eerick seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
adjourn. The Planning Commission adjourned to a June 12, 1987 workshop at the
Tolstoy residence.;
Respectfully submitted,
w
Brad duller
Deputy Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
May 27, 1987
Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:10 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry' cNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Debra Meier,
Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner; Janice
Reynolds, Planning Commission Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the public hearing for the Foothill
Boulevard Specific Plan, Item F on this agenda, would be moved to the end of
the public hearings. He additionally announced that Item N, Terra Vista
Planned Community Street Improvement Implementation Plan, was related to
public hearing Items E, G, and H; therefore would be advanced in the agenda to
be heard concurrently with those items.
Mr. Buller additionally announced that staff was recommending that the
Planning Commission conduct a workshop to discuss agendas, actions of the
Planning Commission and Design Review Committee. The date of Friday, June
12th was selected as the workshop date.
The Planning Commission named David Blakesley as the alternate on Design
Review. At the Planning Commission' s regular meeting of June 10, 1987, Design
Review Committee rotation will be discussed.
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-15 - THE NALBANDIAN
GROUP - A proposal to construct 24,000 square feet of mini-storage
buildings on 1.64 acres of land in; the General Industrial Area, Subarea 1., '
located at the northwest corner of 9tn Street and Vineyard Avenue - APN '
207- -51.
B. TRACT 10045 DESIGN REVIEW - MAYFLOWER HOMES - Design review of building
elevations and pet plans for a previous y =recorded tract map consisting
of ten single family lots on 5.3 acres of land in the Very Low Density
Residential District Mess than 2 dwelling units per acre) , located on the
west side of Haven Avenue at Almond Street - APN 201-42-19 thru' 28.
C. TIME EXTENSION FOR PARCEL MAP 9192 - ENTEC CONSULTANTS - A division of 103
acres o an into 4 parcels within the aryn Planned-Community bounded by
the extension of Banyan Street., Highland Avenue, and the extension of
Rochester' Avenue - APN 225-1 1-24, 27, 8, 28 and APN 225-141-1 , 2, 3, 7,
, 1 , 11, 12and13.
D. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 12643 - ENTEC - A request for Time
Extension' for Tentative Tract. 126 , `a res ent al subdivision for the<
development of 466 single family -lots on 19 acres of land in the Caryn`
Planned Community (Phase 1I) , located on the north side of Highland
Avenue, south side of Banyan` Avenue, vest side of Rochester Avenue,` east
side` of Milliken Avenue' _ APN 225-141-0 , 1.2-16, 18, 22, ' 24, 26, 27 and
225-151-3, 7, '11, 13.
Motion; Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emeric , unanimously carried, to adopt'
the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE` TRACT 13305 - LENS HOMES The
total development of a residential subdivision of 8.08 acres within the
Terra Vista Planned Community (Lott-Medium Residential , -8 dwelling units
per acre) into 48 lots, looted on the southwest corner of Terra Vista`
Parkway and Mountain View Drive - APN 227- 51-1 . (Continued from April
22, 1987)'
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13304 - LENS HOMES - The
total eve opr ent o a resi'dentia subdivision' o 1.13 acres located
within the Terra Vista Planned Community (Low-Medium Residential , -
dwelling units per acre) into 59 lots, located on the northwest' corner of
Terra Vista Parkway and Mountain View Drive - APN 227-151-13.
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H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13273 - LEWIS MIMES _ A total
development rosidentlal subdivision of '15. ' acres within the Terra Vista
Planned Community (Medium-High Residential , 14-24 dwelling units per acre)
into 1 lot for condominium purposes for 256 dwelling units , located at the
southeast corner of Milliken Avenue and Mountain View Drive - APN 22 -151-
1 .
N. TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY - STREET IMPROVEMENT IMPLEMENTATION POLICY
Rarrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report for the
Street Improvement Implementation Polley.
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report on Tentative Tract
13305, Tentative Tract 13304 and Tentative Tract `13273.
Commissioner Emerick questioned the width of the walkways.
Mr. Cook gave an overview of the project proposal .
Chairman McNiel opened the public' hearing.
John Melcher, representing Lewis Homes, concurred with the street policy and
additionally stated concurrence with the Conditions' of Approval applied to
each of the tracts'*
Chairman McNiel asked the applicant to comment on the walkways.
Mr. Melcher advised that the typical on-site sidewalk systems within< the
apartment projects have been 4 feet wide. He indicated that he would agree to
make the major north/south promenade sidewalk 8 feet wide; however, advised
that he personally` would not like to make the other walk 8 feet` wide< since the
width of 8 feet exceeds by 2 feet the width of the typical trail system walks
within Terra Vista. He felt that widening the walkways created less landscape
and more hardscape.
Commissioner Emerick suggested a 6 foot walkway for the east/west walkway that
connects to the park to differentiate between an interior walkway and a
walkway that is meant to connect open space.
Mr. Buller suggested that a condition could be added to the Resolution for
Tentative Tract 127 .
Mr.' Melcher indicated that this additional condition would be acceptable to
Lewis Homes.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner 'Chitiea was concerned with the treatment of the north/south
walkway of the central open space area. She suggested that a decorative
treatment be used and that it be subject to Design Review approval .
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N. Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
approve the Terra Vise Planned Community Street Improvement' Implementation
Policy.
E. Motion; Moved by Emerck, seconded by Chitiea unanimously carried, to
issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental
Assessment and Tentative Tract 13305.
G. Motion: Moved by E erick, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
issue a Negative Declaration and adopt. the Resolution approving Environmental '
Assessment and Tentative Tract 1304.
N. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy,' unanimously carried, to
issue aNegative Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental
Assessment and Tentative Tract 13273, with the following modifications to the
Resolution of Approval : The walkway within the north/south central open space
corridor shall be 8 feet wide. The east/west walkway in the southern portion
f the project leading to the park shall be 6 feet wide. Additionally, the
pavement' of the north/south walkway within the central open space shall
receive a decorative treatment. The design details of the pavement treatment
shall be included In the landscape irrigation plans and shall be submitted for
the review and approval of the Design Review Committee prior to approval of
said landscape plans.
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 7 15 - CALVARY CHAPEL
A request to establish c a urc within a leased space of 5,040 square
feet (Suites 812, 813 and 14) , of a new S acre' industrial park that is
under construction,; in the General Industrial District Subarea 4, located
at the southeast corner of Archibald Avenue and 7th Street - APN 209-211-
36and 47
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel asked if staff predicted future parking problems when the
remaining buildings are lease .
Dan Coleman,
i den orPlanner,'. ad advised that additional parking � l pa ng s available at
the rear of the unit on the south side of the building.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Crate, representing Calvary Chapel , concurred with the Conditions of
Approval ..
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Commissioner Chitiea questioned why the church selected these units as opposed
to suites 801, 802 and 803 at the opposite end where there seemed to be more
parking. She also asked if the Fire District had seen plans for the proposed'
suites.
Pastor Orate indicated that the „suites at the opposite end of the site were
not considered because of financial reasons. He stated that he had obtained
an approved set of plans from Foothill; Fire District.
Commissioner Tolstoy painted out that one of the conditions of approval was
that if this operation adversely affects the neighboring businesses, it could
be grounds for revocation. He advised that the applicant should consider this
condition in the selection of the suites,
Pastor Grate advised that the lease already had been signed contingent upon
the outcome of this meeting.; He indicated that the property owner discouraged;
the chinch from leasing the front three buildings because of their ' high'
visibility.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Chairman; McNi'el stated that he did not foresee a tremendous parking problem
due to the church" s hours of operation.
Commissioner Chiti a appreciated the applicant getting plans approved ahead of
time. She stated she was still a little uncomfortable with the parking
situation and suggested that staff closely monitor the situation.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by 8lakesle , to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Conditional Use Permit 87-15. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY,; DLA ESLEY, CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13442 - WILLIAM LYON COMPANY
A real entia tract sub ivsTon of 9. 5 acres of and into 1ST single'
family lots in the Low-Medium Density Residential District ( -8 dwelling
units per acre within the Victoria Planned Community, located at the
northwest corner of Victoria Park Lane and Kenyon Way - APN 7-011- ,
03, 04, 07 and 7-081-08, 09
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Murphy
presented the Commission with revised conditions.
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Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steven Ford, representing the William Lyon Company, concurred with the
Conditions of Approval , however, objected to the condition requiring front
yard landscaping and stated he would prefer not to have it required of the;
deel op 'ent.
There were no further comments, therefore the public 'hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy thought that the answer to the planning Commission's
concern relative to garage door streetscapes was addressed by this design. He
felt that the 10 feet of landscaping from the sidewalk was very important to
the development as well as the second story setbacks. He felt that it should
be stated that a very sensitive architectural design must be used because of
the new nature of this concept. He would not accept this type of project
unless it had front ,yard landscaping.
Commissioner Cmerick concurred and stated the importance of having the
landscaping all done at once is to ensure continuity in landscaping. He
concurred with the concept that at least 10 feet of greenspace be required
along parallel walkways.
Commissioner Chitiea agreed with the essential front yard landscaping and
walkway. She felt strongly about the second story setback and stated it;
should be a minimum of 15 to g feet.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with the concept but was uncomfortable in naming a
figure. He thought that the final product should go through design review and
let the designer and architect be allowed to address the issue.
Commissioner 'dlak sley was pleased with idea of removing the garage as the
most prominent feature from the street.. He concurred that front yard
landscaping must be required as well as a substantial setback. '
Chairman McNiel was concerned in establishing a minimum since it quickly
becomes the standard. He stated he would want the applicant to be sensitive
to the concern and come in with a product in the 15 to 20 foot setback
range. He felt that a landscape allowance that the developer would install
optional; landscapes provided by the developer in the package might get the
homes landscaped to the satisfaction of the property buyer. He suggested that
an optional landscape package be provided with the home sales and suggested
that the landscape issue be referred to staff to work out with the developer.
Commissioner Emerick commented that he would prefer' mandatory landscaping be
required of the developer,
The Commission concurred that front yard landscaping would be required;
implementation of the landscape requirement would be referred to staff.
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Motion; Moved by Tolstdy, seconded by Emerick, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt ; the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 144 ,: with amendments to the Resolution to require' a minimum`
10 feet landscaped area between the public sidewalk and the front of the
dwelling unit or entry walk, and review and approval by the Planning>
Commission of the two : story unit setbacks. Motion carried by the following
vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS. TOLSTOY, EMERIC , DLA .ESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS. NONE -carried
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN' AMENDMENT 87-0 B - CITY OF
RANCHO COCA ONGA � An app ication to amen . the Land` '0se E ement of the
General Pan from,
A. Heavy Industrial to General Industrial for approximately 10'6 acres at
the future southeast comer of Arrow Highway and Utica Avenue to the
future intersection of Arrow Highway and Milliken Avenue; and for
approximately 52 acres at the southeast corner of Arrow Highway and
Rochester Avenue; and for approximately 1.1 acres on the southeast`
corner of Etiwanda and Whittra Avenue; and
B. General Industrial to Industrial Park for approximately 35 acres on
the northeast corner of Arrow Highway and White Oak Avenue, and
C. General Industrial/Rail Served to General Industrial for all areas
currently designated as 'General Industrial/Rail Served,
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNi;el opened the public hearing.
Jeff Schlosser, representing Schlosser Forge, supported the General Plan
amendment. He asked hew the City would put potential neighbors on alert that
the Schlosser Forge Company is a heavy industrial user which generates noise.
Brad Buller,' City Planner, advised that staff was aware of the discussions
that took place during the review of the Schlosser Forge Development Agreement
and was notifying adjacent properties of the Agreement between the City and.
Schlosser Forge,
Jim Barton, 8409 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, supported the amendment.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
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Otto Krbutil Senior Planner, advised that the Commission previously requested'
staff to incorporate specific provisions into Subarea; 8, on the north and east
of this site, which would notify those properties of the potential conflicts
and specifically highlighting the need for a sensitive land use transition.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, advised that staff had discussed a mechanism
which would accomplish' this notification with the developer of the adjacent
site. He in
dicated
icated that the
mechanism would . most likely be a disclosure
statement to be signed by potential tenants .
Motion: Moved by Chitiea,, seconded by Tplstoy, to recommend; issuance of a
Negative Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental '
Assessment and General Plan Amendment 87-0B to the City Council . Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, OLAKESLEY, EMERICK, MC IEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. NONE -carried
Chairman McNiel announced that the following items were related and would be=
heard concurrently; by the Commission.
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 8 - 4 m SCHLOSSER FORGE CO.- A
request to re uce t e number of paring spaces required for a
manufacturing use, elimina
te the requirement
for trees to be planted I for
every parking stalls,s and also eliminate the requirement r p g � u ement for trees to e
q
planted adjacent to structures, 1 for every 30 linear feet of building
dimension, for the development of two new manufacturing buildings at an
existing manufacturing facility on 17.4 acres of land in the Minimum'
Impact Heavy Industrial Distract (Subarea 9) located at the southwest
corner of Arrow Route and Rochester Avenue - APN 9-111-17, 18. (Related
File DR 7-09) .
M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-09 _ SCHLOSS R FORCE -
The development of two manufacturing bua dims iota ing 5 ,000 square feet
at their existing facility on 17.4 acres of nand within the Minimum Impact
Heavy Industrial District (Subarea 9) located at the 'southwest corner of
Arrows Route and Rochester Avenue - APN 9-111-17, and 18. (Related File
VA 87-04) •
Debra Meier, ,assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman `McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jeff Schlosser, representing Schlosser Forge, concurred with the Conditions of
Approval .
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There were no further comments, therefore the public 'hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea thought this particular landscape plan meets the intent
of screening, considering the unique and practical considerations of the site®
Chairman McNiel agreed that landscaping within the parking lots creates a
problem for the applicant' s operation and creates an inconsistency; with what`
already exists.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adapt the Resolution
approving Variance 87-04. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: T L TOY, CHI`EIEA, BLAKESLEY, EMERIC , MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Development Review 87-09, with inclusion of the conditions relative to phasing
of undegrounding utilities as proposed by staff. Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY,' EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS; NONE -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
O. BILLBOARD REMOVAL PROGRAM
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the 1987_8 budget has already; been
distributed to the City Council ; however, it does not include monies for<
billboard removal . He stated that the City Manager suggested that the item
either be deferred to net year' s budget, or if the Commission established a
priority listing it could be presented to the Council and if additional monies
become available during this fiscal year it could be applied to the removal .
It was the consensus of the Commission that the following priority list be
established and forwarded to the City Council :
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Priority One - The billboard on the south side of Foothill , east of Grove
Priority Two _ The two billboards at the northwest corner of Foothill and
Archibald
Priority Throe - The three billboards at the southeast corner of Foothill and
Vineyard
Priority Four - The billboard at the northwest corner of Archibald and
Hampshire
Continued Public Hearing
F. FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN - A public hearing and workshop to
consider the provisions of the (Draft' Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan.
(Continued from May 18, 19 7)
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner, advised that the focus of the meeting would the
the Permitted and Conditional Uses table.
Chairman' McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jeff Sceranka stated that in order for Specialty Commercial centers to survive
they need the day 'to day foot traffic that is attracted by businesses such as
dry cleaning establishments and banks with drive throughs. He advised that'
banks with drive throughs should be allowed in centers and that very few banks
would consider going into a center if they were not allowed drive through
features. He stated that as a °member of the Ad Hoc Committee, he did not
recall the Committee mandating that the MU/R designation was to be either all
residential , all retail , or a mixture of both. The idea was that because of
the difficult of the mix of uses and the configuration and the questions the
Committee had about the type of project that might go there, they would allow
residential or commercial ` or a combination of both. He felt it was
appropriate to allow 'hotel/motels along Foothill with a Conditional Use
Permit.
Tim Beedle stated a concern with the number' of Conditional Use Permits
required in the various use categories and felt` it would lengthen` the
processing time which would deter many' applicants. He advocated the
establishment of an administrative approval of Conditional Use Permits which
would not require a formal review by the Planning Commission.
Ted Hopson echoed Mr. Scerana" s comments relative to banks with drive through`
tellers. He favored allowing banks with drive throughs under the Conditional'
Use Permit process;
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Sanford Bloom reported that 94% of the property owners surrounding his site
were now in agreement on the development of' a master plan.
Ben Mackal advocated allowing banks and financial institutions in the
Specialty Commercial designation with a Conditional Use Permit.
The Commission made the following amendments to the Permitted and Conditional
Use Permit Tables:
Apparel (b) wholesale and Discount stores - removed from Specialty Commercial
designations; CUP required in Subarea One, CC designation
Auto Service (b) Rentals - CUP required in all Subareas
Cleaning and Pressing Establishments - removed from the MU/R designation in
Subarea Four
Day Care Centers - CUP required in 0 designation of Subarea One
Floor Covering Shops - removed from SC designation in Subarea Two
Janitorial Services and Sup le - removed from the CC designations in Subareas
One and Two, CO designation in Subarea Three
Liquor Stores - CUP required in the CC designation of Subarea Four
Music, Dance and Martial Arts Studios - CUP required in the SC designation of
Subarea Three, removed from the CO designation of Subarea Three
Fast Food uses separated between those with and without drive throughs - CUP
required in the SC and CC designations of Subarea One, SC and CC designation
of Subarea Two, SC and CC designations of Subarea Three, CC and RRC
designation of Subarea Four
Shoe Stores, Sales and Repair - Permitted in SC designation of Subarea One,
removed from the 0 designation; Permitted in the MU/R designation of Subarea
Four
Sporting Goods Stores (a) specialty - Permitted in the MU/R designation of
Subarea Three; removed from MU/R designation of Subarea Four
Discotheques - CUP required in the CC and RRC. designations of Subarea Four
Finance Services and Institutions - "Banks" added to the description and
separated between with and without drive throughs - Without drive throughs
permitted in the SC, CC, 0 designations of Subarea One; Permitted in SC, CC,
0, designations of Subarea Two; Permitted SC, CC, CO designations of Subarea
Three, CUP required is MU designation; Permitted in CC and RRC designation of
Subarea Four. With drivethroughs - Conditionally Permitted in the following
designations SC, CC, 0 designations of Subarea One; SC, CC, 0 of Subarea Two;
SC, CC, CO, MU of Subarea 3; CC and RRC of Subarea Four.
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Hotel Facilities, Ancillary Uses d) cocktail lounges - CUP required in PPC
designation of Subarea Four. Staff was directed to prepare alternatives for
the Commission' s consideration to allow hotel/motels in the MU area of Subarea
B, with the requirement of a marketing study to show feasibility.;
Additionally, a distinction was to be made between major and minor hotel/motel
uses.
Commissioner Tolstoy .stated that Regional Belated Commercial by definition is
1 ,000 square feet and questioned if square footage alone would be a
sufficient definition.
r routil Mated staff could expand the definition by adding language that
this provision is intended to facilitate development of regionally related
uses and these are type i fi d by large scale businesses which serve a market
area significantly larger that those businesses which draw from a neighborhood'
or community level .
Mr.; ' routil announced that staff had sufficient direction to further modify
the Plan and would bring the document back to the Commission on June 24.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing for the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan to the
regular 'Planning Commission meeting of dune 24, '1987.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
11:55 p.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
awo%��
Brad Buller
Deputy Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
May 1 , 197
Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:35 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, i 9161 Base Line Road, ` Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman McNiel there led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Blakesl'ey, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT; Brad Buller, City Planner; Barre Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, Russ Maguire,
City Engineer; Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner; Janice
Reynolds , Planning Commission Secretary-, Alan warren,
Associate Planner
CRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPRT EIR
Otto Kroutil Senior Planner, gave an overview of the draft Environmental
Impact Report and announced that staff would be taking public. comments on the
draft document until dune 24, 1987.
Chairman McNiel opened the hearing for comments on the draft Environmental
Impact Report.
Kay Matlock, representing Lewis Homes, stated a concern with the increase in
commercial acreage, particularly the additional ;Regional Related and Community
Commercial which could have an adverse affect on the community commercial
center at Foothill and Haven. She asked that this issue be addressed in the
Environmental' Impact Report.
-Mr. Kroutil stated that if too much commercial is a concern of the Commission,;
that should be addressed in the Plan itself; the Environmental Impact Report
would merely point out the fact.
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Commissioner E erick stated that he would ;like to see additional staff study
on; the Alta: Loma and Cucamonga School Districts' s comments relative to
commercial development generating more impacts on school services than
residential development.
FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN
Mr kroutil gave an overview of the Plan process to date.
Vary Stevens of Forma, the consultant for the plan, gave an overview of the
design concepts of the Plan.
Mark Broeder, Urban designer representing Forma, gave an overview of the
Community Design; Concept and presented slides for the Commission' s
consideration.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing on the Community Design and
Architectural issues.
Tim Beedle, Reiter Development, supported flexibility of design, but felt the
Commission should be cautious with extreme use of design. He supported
ambient lighting along the corridor that would be in character with the intent
and theme of Foothill Boulevard. He stated that clear guidelines should be
established for sign requirements. He additionally stated that flexibility
should be given for landscape setbacks to allow setbacks up to 25 feet.
Gil: Rodriguez stated concerns with the amount of landscaping setback required
and with the concept of locating parking areas behind buildings facing
Foothill . M . Rodriguez felt that exceptions for these requirements should be
allowed for major anchor tenants.
There were no further public comments on this section of the Plan.
Commissioner Chitiea commented on Mr. Beedle' s suggestion of allowing setbacks
up to 25 feet throughout the corridor and stated that that would diminish the
concept of the urban centers. Regarding ambient lighting, she felt this 'would;
be appropriate in the bounds of safety and felt that light standards at a;
lower lighting scale might be possible. She concurred that there' should be
clear guidelines on signage and they should be attractive and consistent
throughout Foothill . Relative to Mr. Rodriguez' s suggestion to allow
exceptions for major anchor tenants, she stated that the Plan was developed so
that the City would be consistent and the some requirements would apply to all
developments,' If exceptions were allowed for every major' tenant, there would
be no plan.
Commissioner Emerick felt that the text language which requires formal'
landscaping in the Sycamore Inn area should be modified. He advocated
informal planting of more Sycamore trees in this area. He concurred with
Commissioner Chitiea' s Comments relative to the 25 foot setback area and liked
the plan concept of having a treatment with fountain and pedestrian treatments
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at the intersections. He concurred with the use of a lighting system that
would be softer and consistent throughout the corridor.
Commissioner Tolstoy Mated it is important that there are relationships
between architectural features within activity centers.
Chairman McHiel stated he was a little concern with the identification of the
Thomas Winery and Bear Gulch areas as a concept. He 'felt that what may happen;
is other buildings that would be developed would make less significant those
historical buildings that exist now that we are ;trying to accent. He was also
concerned with the 5-foot setbacks at corners and felt that what would occur
visually in the street is that those intersections are going to seem to close'
up as apposed to open which would happen with the 45 foot setback on both
sides.
Commissioner Chitiea pointed out that the reason for the 5-foot setbacks was
to invite pedestrians to cress the street.
Commissioner Emerick suggested that native shrugs and bushes be emphasized in
the Sycamore ' Inn and Thomas Winery areas. He also suggested that Crape myrtle
trees be used in place of the Flowering plum trees He further recommended
the use of river rock and rustic woods in the landscaping theme, particularly
in the Sycamore Inn area.
Commissioner Chitiea encouraged making transition areas so that there would
not be a sharp definition between Bear Gulch and Thomas vinery,; She suggested
that one way might be through; the use of consistent lighting standards
throughout the entire boulevard ;to allow for the changes in landscaping and
architecture and could maintain continuity and flow.
Mr. Buller cautioned trying to develop criteria for intensity of lighting may
cause liability problems for the City. He suggested that criteria could be
established relative to the direction of lighting so that it is in the right`
locution on the property, He additionally pointed out that the City may have
to take over the responsibility for maintenance, which would require some sort
of maintenance district.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she would like' to look at the range of
possibilities and to see the alternatives that right be suggested by the
consultant and the type of cast that might be incurred in developing a
maintenance district.
Chairman Mc i el stated he would not like the City to assume the cost of
maintenance since; however, concurred that staff should be directed to provide
further information.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to ask if there should be some
consideration of the types of lighting within projects that might be different
from what is currently required ' such as lower: light standards. He felt the
issue related to two types of lighting'; lighting along the public right-of-way
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which is Edison maintained, and a lighting theme within projects that might be
used throughout the boulevard and tying the two' to ether.
g. �` g together.
Mr. Kroutil asked for a consensus of the Commission relative to 25 foot
setbacks at the activity nudes.
It was the concurrence of Commission to accept the 25 foot setbacks at the
nodes.
Commissioner Tolstoy referred to the example drawings on page 8a14. He 'asked
that this section be expanded to ;include more examples of things that could be
used in activity centers,
Commissioner Fmerick referred to the the activity centers of Sycamore and
Thomas Winery and suggested that staff explore different streetscape furniture
and lighting the areas between the activity nodes.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred that it would; be difficult to use street
furniture that is consistent and did not think the same bench would be
appropriate in all locations.
Mr. Stevens gave an overview of the plan proposal relative to the streetcape.
Chairman McMiel agreed with the plan concept to provide and allow for the
architectural movement and ;the options to the developer to tie it together
with the project. '
Commissioner Fmerick stated he would support dolor reference- throughout the
corridor but would support a style reference within specific activity areas
such as Sycamore Inn and Thomas Brothers, He felt here should be more
similarity in those activity areas.
SITE SPECIFIC LAND USE DESIGNATIONS
Mr. K,routil gave an overview of the automotive uses within the corridor.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated Foothill is going to be a heavily traffic
boulevard which will deed to have service stations. Be felt if a service
station is well designed and they want to do some car repair, the use should
be allowed as well as a well designed car wash* He stated that major auto
repair does not belong on Foothill ; however, auto tune ups which are done
within the confines of the building should be allowed.
Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing*
Line Bucken, representing Fconb Lue and Tune, addressed the need for
automotive service along Foothill Boulevard. He concurred that these types of
uses could be properly designed and adequately screened to mitigate concerns
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Steve Lucas , 9224 Foothill supported automotive uses within the corridor.
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Jeff Scuranka stated that the issue is one of design, not one of use. He felt
that this is an opportunity for the City to capture those uses for convenience
of the _community as well as tax revenue# He supported automotive _uses along
Foothill .
George Adair, Rancho Cucamonga resident, supported automotive uses within the
corridor.
Corr Witt, 10040 Foothill , supported automotive uses and concurred that the
uses were needed in the community.
There were no further public comments.
It was the consensus of the Commission that automotive uses should be
considered within the Foothill Corridor; Specific locations and design
criteria are to be discussed at a later date.
r. Kroutil gave an overview of the Community Commercial District northerly'
along Ftiwanda Avenue.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing. There were no public comments.
It was the consensus of the Commission to accept the Flan proposal ,
r. I routil gave an overview of the Specialty Commercial along the 'south side
of Foothill in Subarea 1.
r. Stevens gave an overview of the Specialty Commercial uses. `
Commissioner Chitiea stated that the Ad Floc Committee recommended additional
uses within the Specialty Commercial designation which did not appear on the
current plan.
r routil advised that this apparently was an oversight and that staff would
crake the necessary corrections.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. '
Jeff Sceranka stated that medical offices should be allowed within the
Specialty Commercial designation as a support to San Antonio Hospital .
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Chitiea recalled that the expanded uses for Specialty Commercial
proposed by the Ad floc Committee were specifically for Subarea I' for those.
pieces of property. Credit unions, finance companies, medical/dental offices
and clinics, opticians were to be added to the use.
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It was the consensus of Commission ; o designate the property as Specialty
Commercial with the expanded uses suggested by the Ad Hoc Committee.:
SUBAREA LAND USE REGULATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
Mr. Kroutil gave an overviews of the land use regulations and development
standards for Subarea 1.
It was the consensus to require a Conditional Use Permit for discotheques in
the Specialty Commercial zone, as well as dance and music studios.
Chairman McHlel opened the public hearing.
Edward Hopson addressed the Sycamore Inn area and suggested that small one or
two cinema theaters and dinner theaters be allowed in the Specialty Commercial'
zone with Conditional Use Permits.
There were no further public comments
Commissioner Chitiea stated that parking is major issue and thought that it
might adversely impact on the rest of the specialty commercial users. She did
not consider a cinema to be appropriate due to the impacts of parking on
homeowners above, as well as grading concerns.
Mr. Kroutil gave an overview of Subarea 2.
Chairman McMiel opened the public hearing.
Larry Lazur, representing Sanchez Talaricho, asked that they be given to
opportunity to work with staff on the appropriate uses for the Specialty°
Commercial designation for the Thomas Winery site.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the property owner be allowed to
wok with staff on the appropriate uses which might be subject to conditional'
use pewits. Staff was directed to prepare the necessary criteria for the
Commission' s ' consideration.
Jeff Sceranka referred to various uses throughout Subarea 2 and questioned why
they wrerre not allowed in the Community Commercial areas.
There were no further public
io com en ts
It was the consensus that the following uses be permitted within the Community
Commercial designation of Subarea : Art, Music, Photographic Studios and
Supply Stores; Hook., Gift & Stationery Stores; Ice Cream and Soda fountains;
Television, Radio, VCR, Stereo & CD Component Sales; and Optician and
Cpometrical Shops.
Mr. Kroutil gave an overview of Subarea 3.
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Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing.
Sanford Bloom advised that he represented 13 property owners of lots on ;Helms
and Malachite who were ,joining together to develop a master plan. He
expressed a concern with the appropriateness and viability of the Mixed
Use/Retail designation proposed for this property.
Pete Pitassi presented a preliminary conceptual master plan for the site:
addressed by Mr. Bloom. The master plan depicted a specialty commercial site.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the property owners proceed with
their mastery plan proposals. Specific comments were deferred 'until the
project was formally introduced and staff given; the opportunity to review the
proposal .
Mr. Buller advised that the mixed use retail was intended to be a mix of
residential and commercial . He stated that the plan does not stipulate what
proportions that ' mix has to be; that would be at the discretion of the
Commission after review of the master plan. He recommended that the
Commission pursue the Mixed Use designation and that the property owners try
to develop a plan that introduces some residential . He clarified that the
intent was that this commercial area would service the residential area.
el'dra Lovgren, property owner within the above-mentioned master plan area,
did not think that residential was an appropriate use for this area.
Bari westley was concerned with placing additional traffic on San Bernardino
Road and stated that :Specialty 'Commercial with limited access might be the
answer to the problems.
Don Wood stated he would like to see ;jewelry and computer stores permitted in
the Commercial Office designations.
Mr. Kroutil advised that as you start making certain commercial users
permitted you are going to get different kinds of buildings, i .e. store fronts
and exposure.
Jeff Sceranka' stated that the intent of' the Commercial Office designation was
to allow ancillary commercial uses within the office designations. He
suggested that if the Commission was concerned that the commercial uses would
take over the office uses, a percentage be placed on the development.
Mr. Kroutil Mated he would have a concern in that the Haven Avenue Overlay
District dealt with large lots and large developments whereas the lots along
Foothill might be very shallow, narrow strips. He pointed out that theintent'
of the Committee was an office district with very limited retail facilities.
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Commissioner McNiel felt that the permitted users should be those which would
be ancillary to services that are required by people in offices.
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Commissioner Chitiea suggested the ancillary approach along with the
establishment of a percentage. She suggested that staff be directed to return
with recommendations.
r. Buller recommended that staff work with consultants on this issue.
Subarea 4
Mr* Kroutil gave an overview of Subarea 4.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing.
Tim Beedle, representing Reiter Development, stated; that the permitted uses<
were narrow in focus and asked that the list be `expanded.
Mr. Kroutil advised that this was the direction at the Commission' s previous
meeting and staff would provide that information for the Commission' s
consideration.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tol toy, to continue the public hearing;
for the Foothill Boulevard Specific plan to the Commission' s regular meeting
of dune 24, 1987. Motion carried unanimously.
1 r40 a.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Deputy Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAM NGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
May 13, I98
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Chairman Larry McNil called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7*0 p.m. The meeting Was held at
Liens Park Community Center, 9161 Rase Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. °riairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance.
City Clerk Beverly Auth let administered the oath of office to David
Bakesey.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PROS NT David Blake ley, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Em rick Larry Mc Niel , Peter Tnlst y
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner Ban Coleman, Senior Planner,
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate
Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph
Hanson,; Deputy City Attorney; Scott Murphy, Assistant
Planner; Laura Psmas, Landscape Designer; Janice Reynolds,
Planning Commission Secretary; Chris We tman, Assistant
Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tulstcy, carried, to approve the
Minutes of February 25, ' 1987 with language modifications to page 16 by
Commissioner Chitie *
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, carried to approve the Minutes
of March 25, 1987 as submitted.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-18 - REITER - The
development of three research/development buildings totaling 13 ,50
square feet on 6.37 acres of land, within an approved Master Plan, in an
Industrial Park District Subarea G, located at the northwest corner of
Utica Avenue and Bentley Street - APN 210- 1 -I a
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW" 85-29 - , GENERAL MARBLE -
The development of a 45,000 square foot building addition to an e i sti rag
40,000 square foot building on 5.36 acres of land in the General
Industrial District (Subarea located on the north side of 9th Street
between Vineyard and Hellman Avenues - APN 9- 1 -0 , 05, and 06.
C. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT. 1 171 - STEPHENSON - A: custom lot
subdivision of six 5 lots on 3.3 acres of land in the Very Lower Density
Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre), located at the
northwest corner of Klusman Avenue and Whi rl awvay Street A N 105I-51.1-05
and 07
Motion'. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolsto , unanimously carried, to adopt
the Consent Calendar:
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE 'PERMIT 85- 3 - CHRISTIAN FAMILY FELLOWSHIP
- An existing church within a 1 ,650 square foot space located in a General
Industrial District on the east side of Archibald, south of Gth Street, in
Subarea 4, of the Industrial Specific Plan - API 210-071-47 and 48.
Chris Westman, Assistant 'Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing.
Pastor Forrest Hindley addressed the Commission and stated agreement that this
Conditional Use Permit should terminate. He advised that the Church was
unable to complete the necessary improvements which were required to occupy
the building and that the church would be moving to their new site at 898
Archibald on July 1, 1987
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy; City Attorney, advised that the Resolution for this
project should be modified to include the setting of the date for revocation
in the Resolution title. Further, condition 84 should be modified to reflect
the date of May 27, 1987 being set as the date for revocation of CUP 85 03.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that since the applicant agreed to the
revocation it might be feasible for him to submit a letter to the City
formally requesting a withdrawal of the CUP.
Pastor Hindley stated he would be willing to comply with this request.
Mr. Hanson stated he would be willing to work-with- staff and the applicant on
wording of the letter withdrawing the application; however, would recommend
that the Commission adopt the Resolution setting the revocation date.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea to adopt the Resolution
setting May 27, 1987 as the hearing date for revocation of Conditional Use
Permit 85- 8, Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIEA, BLAKESLEY TBLST Y, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
E. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 8 - 8 -RANCHO EVANGELICAL FREE CHURCH - A proposal
to locate a church within an 'existing ,595 square foot professional
building located at 818 Archibald within the General Industrial District
(Subarea 4) - APN 09-'171-1 .
Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing.
Pastor Forrest Hindl y stated concurrence with the conditions of approval . He
was concerned that the other facilities that were being leased by the church
were not shown on the exhibits. He indicated the location of the additional
suites on the plans.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, advised that the parking calculations were based
on the man "wsembl,y area, therefore, additional classroom and office space
would not affect parking.
Mr. Westman advised that staff was aware of the additional suites leased by
the church, however,; since they did` not affect the parking ratio factor they
were not included in the staff report.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed`.
Commissioner Tolstoy -asked if staff had grade an inspection to assure that all
fire codes been met.
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Mr. Westman advised that final; plan check by the Fire District will not be
made until after the CUP has been approved. Once the church is ready to
occupy the building, they would be required to submit their tenant
improvements to the Fire District and the City' s Building and Safety Division
for approval . He stated that staff had reviewed preliminary plans which
appeared to meet all requirements.
Motion: Moved ; by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 7-03. Motion carried by the following vote':
AYES. COMMISSIONERS. CU TIEA, EMERICK, DLA .ESLEY TOLSTDY, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT '13440 - THE WILLIAM LYON
COMPANY - A residential tract subdivision of 24 acres of land into 1I
single >family lots in the Low-Medium Density ' Residential District (4-
dwelling units per acre) within the Victoria Planned Community, located on
the south side of Highland Avenue, northeast of Kenyon Way - APN 7_011-
67
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Murphy
advised that Highland Avenue should be added. to Standard Con- 1on 'M-15
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Dailey, representing the applicant, addressed Engineering condition C.D
and stated ;the condition should be modified to reflect that the City would
obtain offers of dedication from the easterly tract boundary to Rochester
Avenue, He believed that it was the City' s responsibility and not that of the
applicant.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, suggested a modification to the condition that
the developer would arrange for the dedication and add that the execution of a
three party agreement between the High School District, developer and the City
would be necessary.
Mr. Bailey stated he would be willing to accept the condition with the
inclusion of the City and the developer arranging for the dedication.
Commissioner E erick was concerned that the alternate alignment of the
north/south street at the eastern end of the project did not adequately
address the concerns of the Design Review Committee. The Committee felt that
the redesign should reflect more of an ' "S" pattern and not be a straight
alignment.
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Mr, Bailey gave an overview of the alternate proposal .
Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested ested the Commission direct the developer to
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work with City staff to attempt a more curvilenear designed streetscape
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick questioned the proposed fencing material .
Mr. Murphy advised that the perimeter fencing would be slump block wall ,
precision block was proposed along the east propertyline, and the fencing
between units would be wood. Further, in the areas adhere there are trail
connections coming out to the street, the fencing would be slump block with
wrought iron to provide open area. He stated the fencing was consistent with
previous approvals within Victoria.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tol toy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 13440, with an amendment to Engineering Condition 63 to
reflect that the City and. the Developer would arrange the offers of dedication
and the execution of a three party agreement between the 'High School District,
Developer, and the City, and the inclusion of Highland Avenue to Standard
Condition M-15. Staff was directed to work with the applicant on the solution
to the street alignment to the satisfaction of the City Engineer. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTOY, 'BLAKESLY, CNITIEA, MCNIL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT 13684 - WILLIAM LYON
C MPANY - A ' total residential Development of 306 condominium units on
4.67 acres ;,of bond in the Medium 8-14 dwelling units per acre) and
Medium- ;h, (14-24 dwelling units per acre) Residential Districts within
the Victoria Planned Community, located at the northwest: corner of
Victoria Park Lane and Milliken Avenue - APN 0 - 11-13 and 14.
Chairman McNiel announced that the applicant for Tentative Tract 13634
requested a continuance of the public hearing to dune 10, 1987.` He then
opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion:: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Vesting Tentative Tract 1.3634 to the
Planning C !rm si on agenda of dune 10, 1987.
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N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 5- 7 , MODIFICATION)
MASCAPCNAS m- A request to modify an approved conceptual Master Plan from
one restaurant pad to the development of a 2,100 square foot fast food
drive-through restaurant. and a 1,75E square foot retail building on 0. 4
acres of land within a 9.0 acre approved shopping center in the General
Commercial District, located at the northwest corner of Haven Avenue and
Town Center Drive - APN 1077-401- . (Continued from April 8, 1987) .
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented', the staff report. Ms. Fong stated
that Engineering Condition 1 should be modified to reflect in lieu fees for
overhead utilities except for the 66kv electrical .
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Dan Richards, 8331 Utica"" Rancho Cucamonga stated concurrence with the
conditions urged of the project.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Cmerick stated that the design appears to address the concerns
expressed at the previous meeting. By prodding the additional stacking
distance which eliminated a couple of parking spaces, he felt this was an
adequate trade off for the parking.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would rather see a miner exception for the
parking rather than including the drive-through stacked lin=° as part of the
parking requirements.; He was concerned that the inclusion of the stacking
line for parking would become a matter ofcourse and in this situation it
works out well , but in another situation it might not.
Commissioner Chitlea stated that the applicant has worked hard to come up with
architectural design compatible with the center and had done everything
possible; however, she was uncomfortable with using drive-through stacking
line as part of the parking requirements. She cited the severe parking
poblemis in the other portions of the center and was concerned with the
traffic movement through the center since this is the ma-in ingress and egress
at the signal . She was additionally concerned with another fast food use
located this close to Haven Avenue.
Commissioner Blakesley stated he was also concerned with parking in the center
and did not like the idea of counting stacked cars as part of the parking
requirements since the stacked cars would be in addition to the requirement
for the basic food establishment. He was also concerned that this building
isolates the other retail establishment inside the traffic pattern of the
drive through and on the other side from all the other retailers. He was not
sure how many establishments could carry that kind of a burden. His basic
opposition was the land use and stated he would much rather see the site
designed as 'a full restaurant.
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Chairman MNiel stated that the design had come a long way and he was not
opposed to a properly designed fast food use on Maven Avenue: He supported
minor exception for the parking requirement rather than establishment of a
policy,
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested an added condition making this
approval contingent on the approval of a minor exception or a variance for the
reduction of four parking spaces on the site.
Motion: Loved by Emerck, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Conditional Use permit 85-37, with the addition of Planning Condition 10
making approval of the CUP contingent upon approval of a Minor Exception or a
Variance for the reduction of four parking spaces, and the staff modification
to Engi nee '� u, Condition =1 excluding 66kv electrical From the in lieu fee
requirement. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EM RICK, TOLSTUY, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS. BLS KESL Y, CHITIE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS* NONE -carried
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that at a later date the Commission discuss
design considerations of fast food restaurants within the City, particularly
on Maven Avenue.
Mrs. Buller suggested that the Commission discuss this topic in a workshop.
8 20 p.m. - planning Commission Recessed
:35 p.m. - Planning Commission Reconvened with all members present
Chairman McNiel announced that Item L would be advanced in the agenda to be
heard coneJ °li nt y with Item I
I . ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10393 - KEITHJLUSK
COMPANY - A subdivision of 79.2 acres of and into 33 parcels in the
Industrial Park District, Subarea 16, located at the northwest corner of
Archibald Avenue and 4th Street - A N 21 -06 13, 11, 02, 26, 33, and
32. Related File DR; 6-37. (Continued from April 8, 1987) .
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L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8E-37 - K ITNJLUSK COMPANY
- The development of a Master Plan for a 79.17 acre industrial park
consisting of 33 lots in an Industrial Park District, Subarea '16, located
at the northwest quadrant of 4th Street and Archibald Avenue - APN lO-
O -0 , 11, 13, 26, 32 and ' 3. Related Ei'le: PM 10393. (Continued from
April 8, 1987) .
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Ray decker, 6370 Magnolia, Riverside, representing the applicant, requested an
exception to the City' s shared access policy. He felt that this project was
unique in that it was a pure lot sales program, and would not be developed by
one master developer. He felt that he had been able to address the staff' s
traffic concerns with the exception of the internal circulation of the
project. He gave an overview of the proposed project's access. He stated
that the requirement for shared access restricts the potential pool o
industrial users*
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick stated it is a public benefit to locate as much of the
circulation internally in the project opposed to making traffic go out on the
street to reach another part of the project.
Chairman McNiel stated the condition needed to be retained- as a matter of
policy and did not see this property as any more unique =than <any other in the
City.
Commissioner Chitiea stated it world be essential to resolve the =access
problem. She stated the .situation has occurred because of the overall design
concept of this particular development and that it could be redesigned in
another way,. She was concerned that the triangular shaped parcel adjacent to
this piece of property would become `a no man' s land. She was also concerned
that the master plan did not address the overall design concept.
Commissioner Tol stoy agreed that the master plan needs further refinement in
terms of architectural guidelines. He concurred that shared access is very
important because of the traffic problems and for aesthetic reasons,
Chairman McNiel concurred and further stated that since' 4th and Archibald is
one of the major gateways to the City, the master plan needs to address
architecture with particular care. He stated from all indications from the
Commission, it appear•~ed that the issues would need to be resolved before
action could be taken on the project. He then reopened the public hearing for
continuation purposes.
Mr. Becker asked that the Commission be poled on the shared access issue.
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It was the unanimous consensus of the Commission that shared access be
required.'
Mr® Becker accepted a continuance of the project for thirty days.
Mr. Buller suggested that the project go back through Design Review once more
o address ;design matters.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated the the triangular piece of: property was still of
concern
Mr. Recker stated that he would be willing to work with staff on this issue.
Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Blakesley, unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and Development Reviews 86 -87 and
Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel Map 10393 to dune 10 1987.
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-0 - RANCHO
CAMONCA REALTY PROPERTIES II , LTD - A request to serve alcoholic
beverages within an established 3,700 square foot restaurant within the
Neighborhood Commercial District (NC) looted at the northeast corner of
1 th and Archibald (9740 19th Street) - A:PN 282-171-5 (Continued from
April 2 , 197) •
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNi el opened the public hearing:.
Bohn Luciano, applicant, gave an overview of the request and urged approval of
the expansion and the request to serve alcoholic beverages.
There were no further comments,' therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick supported the issuance of a liquor license. He stated he
had observed the center and there seemed to be ample parking. He felt that
staff' s ca'1 -41ations of 75 parking ; spaces for Carl ' s Jr. was excessive and
felt there was a surplus of parking. ` He supported the expansion request.
Commissioner Tolstoy supported the issuance of a liquor license. He had no
concerns with the parking at this time; however, questioned what might happen
when the users in the center change.
Brad Buller, City Planner, concurred that there may be a problem in the future
when uses change. He advised that staff had been reluctant to recommend a
shared parking agreement since it places a leasing burden on the developer and
also one on the City for enforcement.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated based on her own observation and previous public
testimony the center has never been impacted with traffic and it is a center
that over the years has not been particularly successful . She stated the size
of the expansion is not particularly significant and would not have a negative
impact on the surrounding businesses-or adjacent residences.
Commissioner Bla esley agreed that 75 parking spaces was excessive for Carl 's
Jr. and did not see a problem with the request
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested a modification to Condition 5
relative to the serving of alcoholic beverages;
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Bla esley, to adopt the Resolution
approving the serving;of alcoholic beverages and the 900 square foot expansion
for Amici ' s Pizza N Muff at 9740 19th Street, with a modification to
condition 5 to require the serving of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with
the restaurant usage and the availability of full listed 'menu items. The sale
and serving of alcoholic beverages shall cease when all such mend items are
not available to customers. Motion carried by the following vote. -
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, BLAESLEY, EMERIC ,, MCNIEL, TOLSTY
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Chairman Mciel announced that Item M was related to this project, therefore
would be advanced in the agenda.
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 8 -09 - H. T. 1 CONSTRUCTION -
Requests to ecrease the min'mu building setback and required landscape
average along 8th Street, reduction of sideyard setback along railroad
right-of-way and elimination of outdoor eating areas for a proposed multi-
tenant industrial project located at the northeast corner^ of Baker Avenue
and 8th Street - APN 7- 71-01.. (Related File. DR 8 -43) .
M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 86- T H. T. I .
CONSTRUCTION - The development of 8 multi-tenant industrial buildings
totaling q 38 58 square feet on 2.5 acres of land in the General Industrial
District (Subarea 1 , ;located on the north east corner of 8th Street and
Baker Avenue - APN 207-271-01. (Related File. VA 8 -09)
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Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
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George Bryant, representing the applicant, gave an overview of the project,
Mr. Bryant ;agreed to underground all utilities that face his properties, but
took exception to undergrounding the property to the east and the railroad
communication lines.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea was concerned that the north side of the project which
faces the railroad and is visible from Baker was not architecturally treated
as is <normally required when visible to public view. She suggested that the
color banding be extended around all buildings and the first two buildings
which can be seen from Baker be sand blasted.
Chairman Mc Niel asked staff to comment on; the utility undergrounding issue.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, advised that the Commission has required
undergrounding of railroad property as a matter of policy. He noted that this
particular ;project is not required to underground 600 feet of the railroad
property, not the entire 2200 feet. Additionally, the developer would not be
required to underground the lines but would pay one half in lieu fee through
lien agreement. He clarified that the City would credit this developer for
his in lieu fee for the railroad and undergrounding the additional 250 feet on
the property to the east.
Commissioner Chitiea reaffirmed the policy to establish a more aesthetic look
for the City and did not think the requirement to underground utilities along
the railroad should be eliminated.
r. Bryant stated he was not opposed to entering into a lien agreement, but
was concerned with the specifics of the agreement for the railroad property.
He indicated that this property has encumbered as much as it can handle and
gave are overview of the public improvements rude to date.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick asked if staff could provide a dollar amount for
undergrounding. He was concerned that the undergrounding requirement would
pose a har = p for the developer.
Mr. Hanson stated that it would cost approximately $155,000 to underground the
utilities including in-lieu fees and actual undergrounding. He noted that
other properties which have developed in the adjacent areas had contributed a
greater amount
Commissioner Chitiea suggested that beaches ,be provided in the landscaped
nodes of the project, as a minimum to the outdoor eating requirement.
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Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review -43 with
modifications to Planning Condition 2 stating that all north elevations shall
receive an accent stripe matching that on the south elevations. In addition,
the first two buildings visible from Baker shall be sand Mast finished.
Condition 3 was added stating a bench shall be provided within the landscape
area for each building location and type subject to the review and approval of
the City Planner;. Motion carried by,the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS. CHITIEA, EMERICK, RLAKESLEY, MCNIEL, T'CLST Y
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emeric , to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Variance -Og. Motion carried by the
following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA EMERIC , 3LA ESLEY, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES. COMMISSIONERS; NONE
ABSENT: NONE
-carried
NEW BUSINESS
N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87 1 - GENERAL DYNAMICS
The deve lo ent of a' Eied Measurement Facility consisting of throe
buildings that total 4,000 square feet on 3.72 acres of land in the
General Industrial District (Subarea 10) located on the west side of
Milliken Avenue south of the Atchison t a Topeka a and Santa Fe Railroad tracks
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Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public cement.
Dick Haddinger, representing the applicant, objected to the Engineering
Condition requiring lien agreements, He advised that General Dynamics does
not apply liens due to conflicts with government contracts. He asked that
some other type of surety be required as opposed to lien agreements.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, suggested that other surety acceptable to the
City Attorney and City Engineer could be substituted wherever lion agreement
appears.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed:
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Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 87-12 with the
substitution of; "other surety acceptable to the City Attorney and City
Engineer" for lien agreements. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS; TOLST Y EME IC , HLA ESLEY, CHITIEA,-MCNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
1 :30 p.m. Planning Commission Recessed
10: 0 p.m* - Planning Commission Reconvened with all members present
O. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 7-01 - DAMS DEVELOPMENT
pr_opo_s_al to 'construct two medium wrr ofesa i tribotion faci 1ties
totaling 150,E0 square feet in the General Industrial District Subarea
on 6.5 acres of land at the northeast corner of Arrow Highway and Maple
Place - APN208-961-12.
Chris Westman, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Alan Tutland, representing the applicant, concurred with the conditions of
approval
There were no further public comments
Commissioner Slakesley was concerned with the potential development of the
adjacent par , and asked the approximate width.
Mr. Ne tman advised that the parcel width was approximately ;1 5 to 19 feet,
which should be adequate for development.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick to adopt the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and Development Review 87-01 . Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY EMERIC , BLAKESLEY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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P TRACT 1082 -2 DESIGN REVIEW - U. S. HOMES - Design review of building
elevations and plot plans for a reviously'approved and recorded tract map
consisting of 99 single family lots on 14.2 acres of land in the Low 2-
dwvellinq units/acre) and Low-Medium 4-8 dwelling units/acre) Residential
Districts, located between Haven Avenue and Hermosa Avenue, north of
Banyan Street - APN 201-53-0I through 5 , 201-E3-01 through 42, and 201-
SB - 1 through 20.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
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hproject.
Mickey Sanders, representing the applicant, gave an overviewof t e
He asked for discussion of the slope planting requirements and felt that the
planting of trees would exacerbate slope erosion. He Mated that the slope
planting regui rements were excessive and would actually undermine the
stability of the slope rather than provide erosion control .
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Emerick: concurred that the number of trees required on the
interior lots might be excessive and could be counter productive to slope
erosion. He was concerned with planting 15 gallon size trees and noted that
in many situations 15 gallon size tree planted into a pure slope condition do
not take well and a B gallon tree is more amendable and will grower into the
soil quicker.
Commissioner Chi ti ea pointed out that the tree planting requirement was also
based on aesthetic reasons.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the number of trees required would
have to remain consistent with Code requirements. However, the Commission
could leave the placement of the trees to the discretion of the City
Planner.
Commissioner Chitiea stated this would be acceptable; however, she would be
willing to go back and reviews the requirements of the Development Code.
Notion* Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to °adopt the Resolution
approving the Design Review for Tract' 10827-2. Motion carried by the
following vote
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CH EA, TOLSTOY, BLAKESLEY, EME IC , MCNIEL
NOES- COMMISSIONERS: NON
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that if the City Planner determines that the
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number- of trees required is excessive, the plan should be brought back to the
Commission for review.
MODIFICATION, TO TRACT; 13058 DESIGN REVIEW - REPUBLIC - A request to
modify the conditions of approval to permit wood fencing on corner side
yards for Tract 13059 (Design Review) for 137 single family lots on 25.8
acres of land within the Victoria Planned Community (Low-Medium
Residential , -8 dwelling units per acre) located on the west side of
Fairmont Lane, north of the Southern Pacific Railroad - APN 0 - 11-13 and
38`»
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
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Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
Roger Wilson, representing; the applicant, gave an overview of the request and
presented slides for the Commission's consideration.
Jim Bailey, representing William Lyon Company, supported the applicant's
request and believed a variety of fencing would enhance Victoria.
There were no further public comments.
E Commissioner Emerick suggested the developer install the proposed wood fencing
on the interior fences of all interior lots; however, he supported block walls
on corner lots. He indicated that the slides presented reinforced his view
that block walls still make good sense on corner lot locations where they are
more visible from the street. Be stated block walls are more durable than
wood fences and noted that wind is of particular concern,
Commissioner Chitiea agreed the wood fencing, double stained, would e
acceptable for interior use but block. walls- should be required for "'corner
lots.
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Brad Puller, City Planner, stated that Nor. Bailey brought up; good point
relative t,J variety of fencing and suggested that the proper place to create a
change would be in one of the larger super block areas as opposed to tract by
tract basis.
Motion Moved by Emerick, seconded by To stoy, to adopt the Resolution
denying the request to modify the conditions of approval to permit wood
fencing on corner side yards for Tract 13059. _ Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: EMERIC , TOLSTOY, BLA ESLEY C ITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS, NONE
ASSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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Motion`: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
continue past the 1I: O adjournment time.
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
R. VICTORIA LAKES - Oral Report
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, gave an overview of the status of the Victoria
Lakes. He advised that staff would recommend a tour of lakes in surrounding
communities to be held during the month of dune.
S. REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF ENTRY MONUMENT WALL LOCATIONS'
Laura Psomas, Landscape Designer, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mciel invited public comments. _-
Judy McCaslin, representing the Bixby Ranch Company, stated her company was
anxious to be able to construct their identification signs. She felt that the
proposed monument .signs were more in keeping with residential projects than
the high tech developments such as Bixby' s.
Tim Beedle, representing Reiter Development, supported the gateway entry sign
concept and indicated a willingness to work with the City. He voiced concern
that the proposed design did not show any character to the approved sign for
the Gateway project.'
Henry Reiter urged the approval of a tastefully designed' sign,
Russ Maguire, City Engineer•, reiterated staffs position that the review at
this time was only for the locations for,City gateway signs. The signs, would
still have to go through the Capital " Improvement program process and once that
process is approved the full and complete designs will go through the full
review process. These two locations were brought forward to give these two
developers as much advanced information as possible.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned why Base Lane and 19th Street were not major
entry way designations.
M . Maguire advised that Base Line has been approved as a standard entry, and
since 19th is a State Highway the most the City could> hope for would be an
entry identification sign built off the right of way in a private easement.
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M . Buller suggested that staff meet with the Reiter and Bixby Companies on
the sign designs after which staff would forward them to Design Review.
It was the consensus of the Commission to forward to the City Council approval
of the Haven and Milliken locations for the Gateway entry monumentations.
T. REVIEW OF ON SITE CONSTRUCTION SIGN FOR THE PROPOSED VICTORIA GARDENS
REGIONAL SHOFPINO MALL
Jack Lam, Community [development Director, presented the staff report.
DuncanDuddinger, representing the Hahn Corporation, presented an overview of
the sign design
After review, it was the consensus of the Commission to forward the sign
design to the Design Review Committee to address concerns relative to the
scale and mass of the sign and the pilasters and the type of lettering to be
used. After review by the Design Review Committee, the sign design will b
placed on the Planning Commission' s consent calendar.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
1 Da a.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
A201W
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Brad Sullen
Deputy Secretary
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
April 30, 18
Vice Chairman Suzanne Chitiea called the !Adjourned Meeting of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was
held at Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. She then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALF
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Fmeric , peter
Tol soy
ABSENT: Larry Mciel
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STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planners Barre Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer;; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Otto Kroutil ,
Senior Planner; Janie Reynolds, Planning Commission
Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner
Otto Kroutil Senior Planner, gave an overviews of the the Foothill Specific'
Plan process.
Van Stevens, Forma, the plan consultant, gave an overviews of the Foothill
Boulevard Specific Plan. Mr. Stevens then presented the Design Concept, Land
Use Economic Concept, and Overall Traffic System sections of the Plan.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the ;public hearing.
Cary Mitchell , 9330 Base Lire Rind, Rancho Cucamonga, member of the Foothill
Specific Plan Ad Hoc Committee, gave an overviews of the Committee process'. On
behalf of the Chamber of Commerce, he relayed a concern expressed by small and
medium business people of how the plan may affect their businesses and
business opportunities. He felt that the implementation policies were
critical to the overall success of the land; uses for future development.
Jeff Sceran a, member of the Foothill Specific ;Plan Ad Hoc. Committee, stated,
that he saws an opportunity with this plan to capture' the tax dollars that are
currently being spent in other communities. He `indicated that the land use in
the area of the Ilevore Freeway was ;of particular concern because Foothill
Boulevard and the Devore Freeway is a major intersection with a regional
shopping center proposed on the northwest corner. He felt that this plan
provides the potential for additional; semi-regional uses that are consistent
with almost every major shopping center in Southern California. he felt that
it was important that not all of the commercial uses be given to the regional
shopping center. He stated that one of his objectives was to see that the
City balance commercial uses along Foothill from the west boundary to the
regional` shopping center on the east.
Tim deedle, Reiter Development, 'expressed the reed to be able to articulate
particular types of uses throughout the corridor with an emphasis toward both
design and economic vitality.
Joe yancy, 12752 Foothill , Rancho Cucamonga, expressed concerns with medians
and median breaks- along Foothill , tax increases to pay for these median
breaks, and a concern that there will be adequate support for commercial
centers.
There were no further public comments on this section of the presentation.
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Commissioner Fmerick commented on the Corridor% Design Concept and disagreed
with the consultant' s recommendation of a formalized treatment of the Sycamore
Inn and dear Gulch areas. Additionally, he was concerned with traffic and
agreed that the functional portion of the traffic issue must be dealt with
first.
Commissioner Tolstoy seated that the gateway design elements are an important
feature of the Plan. He supported the activity centers and stated they give
special treatment to special boulevards. Regarding the Overall Land
Use/Economic Concept section of the; plan, he commented that the regional
related activities from I-15 to the eastern border are important. He
questioned the possibility of having more commercial than is viable. Traffic
was of concern and he felt it was; a major issue to be deaf with.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea stated the overall design concept is a very strong
one. She supported the use of activity centers and felt the gateways are
essential . She agreed that traffic was of tremendous importance and commented
that the median breaks would be designed with traffic circulation being the
major consideration. She had concern with the slightly excessive commercial
use and felt the City, must be careful not to dilute the market. She stated
that the regionally related uses in the eastern portion of the City would
enhance the regional center as it develops.
The Planning Commission recessed at 5 p.m. and the meeting resumed at : 5;
p.m.
Mr. Stevens gave an overview of the Land Use Categories.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Sanford Bloom, property owner on Foothill between Klusman and Hellman, opposed
the; Mixed Use/Retail designation proposed for that property,
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Pete Ritassi architect, advised that he was currently developing a
consolidated master plan for this site. Mr. Ritassi presented the master plan
to the Commission.
Tian Beedle, representing Reiter Development, suggested that the uses within
the Regional Related designation should be expanded to include ancillary
commercial uses.
Jeff Sceranka advised that the Ad Doc Committee had discussed the issue of
allowing various commercial uses within the RC category. His recommendation
was that the RC designation be the most broad based commercial designation and
that the uses be expanded to include community commercial uses with a
requirement for master planning and the identification of the anchor tenant.
Cary Mitchell addressed the concern expressed by the Commissioners relative to
the extent of commercial uses. He stated that after the Committee reviewed
the economic background studies provided by the consultant team they
determined that the traffic volumes on Foothill' Boulevard would provide more
of a unique opportunity to capture commercial opportunities along the
boulevard. Be pointed out that Rancho Cucamonga ranks among the highest
earning per capita communities in the County of San Bernardino; however, ranks
among the lowest in capturing retail sales dollars spent within the community.
Bert Francis property owner in the Bear Gulch area e reseed a concern with
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the number of uses which are not allowed on his piece of property,
particularly uses such as credit unions and ancillary medical offices.
Beer Mackall , 8112 Foothill , asked that optometrical uses be allowed within the
CC designation.
There were no further public comments
Commissioner Bmerick agreed that the uses within the Regional Related category
are not broad enough." He agreed with limiting the uses within Specialty
i Commercial so they could blend in with the 'Red Bill and Thomas :Winery areas.
Commissioner Tolsto,y stated that staff should take a look at the Regional
Related uses` and determine a way to state in the text that these' pieces o
land are held only for centers that can be developed around large regional
commercial uses
Vice-Chairman Chitiea agreed that the base for Regional Related uses should be
broadened. She supported the concept of master planning with the possibility
of a requirement that at least one anchor store must be developed with phase
one of every master plan. She additionally suggested that criteria be
established relative to parcel size to assure that a large enough parcel o
land will be developed;.
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Mr. Stevens advised that the development regulations and design guidelines for
Regional Related uses specifically create incentives and direction for future
land uses to be of the major regional type. He also pointed out that the
minimum parcel size would be five acres.
r. Kroutil asked for comments relative to the Mixed Use concept.
Commissioner Emerick supported the concept and felt that the flexibility that
the designation affords the; property owner was appropriate.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea <agreed and further stated that the flexibility might
entourage the most exciting use ofthe laud.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that Mixed- Use would encourage property owners to
join together and master plan, which was the intent of the Plan.
Red Hill County Club Reali nment
John Atwater, Associate Planner representing the City of Upland, expressed
concern with possible traffic and noise impacts on Grove Avenue and the
residential streets in the City of Upland. He felt that other alternatives
should be provided for consideration.
Thomas McGalloway, Planning Commissioner with the City of Upland, expressed
concern and opposition' to Alternative -d of the Plan which diverted the Red
Hill Country Club Drive westerly traffic onto Grove Avenue north of
Foothill . He was concerned that this additional traffic would impact the
ingress and egress to the shopping center on the northwest corner of Foothill
and Crowe. He advised that; the Upland traffic engineer suggested a
realignment point between the sycamore Inn property to align with San
Bernardino Road.
Russ Maguire City Engineer, advised that the northerly exit out of the Red
Hill area at Alta Celesta is currently ;under~ contract to be signalized..
Further, the combination Vineyard/Carnelian and Country Club Drive
intersection is being budgeted for signalation during the upcoming fiscal'
year. He pointed out that alternative access was being provided to draw the
traffic away from Red Hill . Mr. Maguire commented that a realignment near the
Sycamore Inn' was previously considered; _ however, the grade differential to
bring the street down to that point virtually destroys the area;.
Edward Hopson, 1131 W. Cth Street, Ontario, representing the property owner of
c 18 'acres surrounding the Sycamore Inn, stated opposition to the realignment of
r Red Hill Country Club Drive with San Bernardino Road due to the adverse impact
it would have on this property.
John Holt advised that other alternatives were discussed by the Ad Hoc
Committee, however, Alternative 2-B, was chosen due to safety concerns and
because it least impacted the residential streets.
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There were no further public comments..
It was the consensus of the Commission that the realignment of Red Hill
Country Club Drive be continued to the neat meeting. Staff was directed to
provide a recommendation relative to the traffic study prepared for the
property owner at the northeast corner of Grove and Foothill .
Extension of Estacia Avenue
Mr. Kroutil gave an overview of the Plan proposal .
Harold Lovgren, expressed concern with limiting access` on Estacia to San
Bernardino Road.
John Holt stated that the Advisory, Committee came up with an acceptable
solution that would mean that access to San Bernardino would be acceptable if
that access did not provide through traffic to Foothill Boulevard.
Pete Pitassi' stated that if there is a connection on Klusman the logical
location would be adjacent to Cstacia to form an intersection.. He was
concerned that in order to get proper alignment, radius and right-of-ways to
allow that alignment, the location of the commercial building behind Wendy' s
would create hazardous traffic situation since there isn't enough depth from
that commercial building to klus an. He felt San Bernardino Road was designed
as a collector street and should be allowed to function in that capacity. He'
asked that he be given flexibility on the connection street as part of his
master plan concept.
r. Stevens pointed out that the arrows designated on the plan are strictly
opportunities for access, there are no mandatory statements of circulation.
Warren Hillgren, owner of the mobile home park at 930 Foothill Boulevard,
felt there were potential legal and economic problems with the Mined Use
Residential designation. He stated that further traffic analysis and study
should be conducted on both San Bernardino Road and Cstacia.
Corgi Castle, representing Vineyard Bank, stated concern with the possible
alignment of the Estacia Court extension. We additionally stated a concern
with the lack of a median in foothill Boulevard at Klusman.
Jeff Sceranka stated than the intent of the Committee was to minimize
commercial traffic on San Bernardino Road. He felt that a residential project
would create' less traffic impacts than a commercial project and would least
affect the existing residences.
There were no further public comments.
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Commissioner Emerick stated that the access opportunities indicated on the map
are appropriate. He felt that access onto San Bernardino Road should be
limited as much as possible. He concurred with no through access all the way
through San Bernardino Road to Foothill and little or no commercial access
from San Bernardino Road into a commercial project.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea concurred and stated the Commission will >look closely at
the proposals and the alternatives and will be sensitive to the concerns of
all citizens.
San Bernardino Road and Foothill
Mr. Kroutil gave an overview of the Plan proposal .
Vice-Chairman Chitiea opened the public hearing.
Bert Francis supported the recommendation of the Advisory Committee.
There were no further public comments.
It was the consensus of the Commission to support the Plan proposal relative
to San Bernardino Road and Foothill .
San Diego Avenue RelllanEtrLt
Mr. Kroutil gave an overview of the Plan proposal .
Gary Mitchell stated that the Advisory Committee was al, so concerned with the
property west of the flood control channel . He indicated the Committee's
recommendation would be to Master Plan both parcels.
Steve Lucas, 9489 Apricot, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that the access to San
Diego as it currently exists would be the acceptable solution.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Emerick stated that San Diego Road should be indicated as a
dashed line to keep the possibilities, open. For master plan purposes he felt
the street should be indicated, however, the text should state the entire
corner should be master planned.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea suggested that direction be given that the City would be
flexible in this matter based on master plan.
Mr. Kroutil pointed out that the question would be if the Water District comes
in with a development plan independent of the remainder of the site would they
be able to develop at this point, or would they be subject to an overall
master plan.
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Commissioner Tolsto,y stated the ideal solution would be to master plan the
entire corner and abandon access on San Diego.
r. Krdutil pointed out that you would not be able to develop that portion
unless alternate access is provided elsewhere.
r. Buller stated that if a proposal came in there could be a mechanism that
if San Diego` were vacated on an interim basis it could remain there until> such
time a the rest of the master plan is developed. If the Water 'District' s<
property were purchased by a private venture, the City could allow an access
punt into that project as 'long as it was not a through street. He indicatedi
that the City would place the burden on the developer to show that their:
project can fit into a master plan for the rest of the site.
Commissioner Emerick reiterated that the access is being shown now as existing
right of way, however, the City would be amenable to 'having it master planned.
Conclusion
r Krdutil gave an overview of the Commission' s actions during this
meeting.
Commissioner Chitiea added that she felt very strongly that the intersection
of Haven and Foothill is extremely important and should` be included in the
scope of this study. She advised that the Committee felt strongly about
incorporating that intersection into the overall picture. She felt that Maven
should relate to what is happening on Foothill and the last two corners should
not be allowed to develop piecemeal . She asked :that this area be included.
r. Buller stated that if this was a direction of the Commission, staff would
suggest that action proceed` on this plan as it currently exists. He advised`
that this area could be included as an addendum to the plan; however, the
contract with the consultant would need to be amended and the City Council
would need to support that amendment.
Vice-Chairman Chitiea invited public comment.
Gary Mitchell stated that there are two issues to be dealt with: the issue of
designating that intersection as a strategic and special intersection, and,
the issue of the land use between the Channel , on the west side of Virginia
Cane all the way to the east side of the Devore Freeway, He suggested that
the Commission consider separating the issues of the land use of that missing;
link, but add a ; designation on the Plan signifying the intersection of
Foothill and Haven as a special intersection where the City would want similar`
kinds of treatment along the lines of the special boulevard.
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Commissioner Tols,toy pointed out that the General Plan designates Haven and
Foothill a special boulevard. He agreed with Cyr. Buller that it would not be'
necessary to stop action on the Plan at this point to include this section,
but that it be done as an amendment to the Plana.
Jeff Sceranka concurred with Mr uller's suggestion and further stated that
it was critical that the Terra Vista Plan, Barton Development Plan, and 'Santa
Fe Realty Plan all be coordinated with the Foothill Plan.
There were no further public comments.
Vice-Chairman hitiea concurred that the Commission not hold up this Process,
but she suggested that the 'recommendations he made to the Council immediately
so that the design elements can he incorporated*
Commissioner Tolstoy Mated that the; Commission really should recognize the
fact that there is a problem with this missing link of Foothill and recommend
to the Council that the entire length of Foothill be included in the Plan
area.
Motion: Moved by T lstoyf, seconded by Fmer°ic , unanimously carried, to
adjourn the pudic hearing for the Foothill' Boulevard Specific Plan to Monday,
May 1 , 1987, p.m., Lions Pare Community` Center, 9161 Base Line Road,
Rancho Cucamonga.
Respectfully submitted,
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Brad Buller ;. .
Deputy Secretary
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MINUTES OF
PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP
WE NES AY APRIL 29, 198 6: C P.M.
Lions Park Community Center
9161 Base Lire Road
Rancho Cucamonga
Chairman Larry cNiel called the workshop meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at IC p.m.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Larry McNiel , Suzanne Chitie , Bruce
Eaerick, Peter Tol stay
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Russ Maguire, City Engineer; arr,ye Hanson, Senior
Civil Engineer, Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; doe
Stofa, Associate Civil Engineer; Barbara Krall ,
Assistant Civil Engineer.
UTILITY UNDER GROUNDING, POLICY --
Larry cNi e l , Planning Commission Chairman, explained the purpose of the
workshop.
Narrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel asked whether the railroad related utility lines were
included in the uti l i ty line mileage total .
Mr. Hanson stated they were not.
Commissioner Chitiea asked over what Period of time the assessment was
based.
Commissioner 'Tol sto,y asked ghat the mechanism would he to form an
assessment district.
Mr. Hanson stated that he was not familiar with all the details
regarding assessment districts*
Russ Maguire, City Engineer stated that, it would have to be a facilities
type district and, depending on the nature, would go to a 50 percent or
2/3 vote.
Gary Mitchell , representing,; the Rancho Cucamonga Chamber of Commerce,
Chairman of the Economic Development Committee, gave a brief summary of
the issues discussed at the Economic Development Committee meeting and
the recommendations made by the Chamber. The Chamber is strongly
supportive of the Cit ' s long range goal of undergrounding overhead
utility lines for aesthetic purposes and economic reasons. Some
residents had concerns whether they would be required to pay the costs
of undergrounding existing overhead lines to the rear of their* homes,
through alleys, or adjacent to equestrian feeder trails. Mr. Mitchell
agreed to change the minimum length from 300 to 600 feet. He suggested
exempting the small and medium projects from the; direct costs o
undergrounding. The Chamber also felt the exemption of alleys and
easements was a good addition to the policy. Mr. Mitchell stated that
he was not sure establishing new benefit assessment districts would be
applicable to the issue of utility undergrounding. He fel t a more
equitable and realistic solution would be the establishment of an
undergrounding fee based on a set fee per dwelling unit for residential
development and square footage for commercial and industrial
buildings. The current policy does not distribute the costs of
undergrounding and there are some inequities. The Chamber felt some
type of undergrounding fee on a per unit basis, would fairly assess
every new project that is approved by the City.
Regarding the issue of railroads, an alternative would be to place the
rail lines in a Redevelopment Agency project, and utilize redevelopment
financing techniques and assess developers at a' later date for
development on adjacent properties.
If the City had a restrictive account, the Commission and Council could
prioritize the expenditure of those funds on a more high profile type of
undergrounding. In closing, Mr. Mitchell stated that the Chamber is
interested in working cooperatively with the City, both the Planning
Commission and City Council . The Chamber strongly urges the Commission
to consider the alternatives requested. The Chamber Board has taken the
position that if the City chooses to pursue 'legislation, they will be in
support ICC .
Chairman McNiel questioned Mr. Mitchell as to what type of fee he was
referring to.
Mr. Mitchell stated that the Chamber was considering a fee to be
assessed on every unit in a residential development, and on a square
footage basis, in a commercial/industrial development. The Chamber was
not aware of the amount per dwelling unit. part of the recommendation
is that it should be known how many miles of lines were being considered
and the estimated cost of undergrounding those lines.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the Chambers proposal for having new
developments shoulder the burden would not only be for undergrounding
the utilities that would be required ;of the developer in conjunction
on
with the project, but also undergrounding the existing utilities
throughout the City.
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Mr. Mitchell stated if a comprehensive program was used in which the
City determines the lines to be u'ndergroundod, that it must be 'taken on
an individual basis with new development, perhaps giving the builder and
the Commission the right to decide which projects should be directly
undertaken as a condition of approval , or which could perhaps; be
postponed until a later date. It could work similarly to the current
storm drain reimbursement program. This City has a good formula that
states exactly what a fair allocation is and if a developer is forced to
put in facilities ;that are beyond that related to the site, then there
are provisions for offsetting credits.
Commissioner Emerick asked, if there was to be a residential development
of 50 acres or more in a portion of the City where there were no
existing utility lines, and the developer is installing and
undergrounding the utilities; according to that formula, would he be
required to pay additional fees as well as undergrounding the new
utilities servicing the project,
r. Mitchell stated that Haven Avenue would be a good dividing line,
Some felt that anything oast of Haven would most likely be in a planned
community area, and those projects would be forced to bring in supply
lines and underground anything inside* Perhaps the developer should; be
treated by the policy differently than what would be considered an ' n-
fill piece of property which would be required to contribute on a per
unit basis.
Commissioner Chitiea asked, if there was an in-fill project which didn't
underground utilities but contributed to the foe, when would the
undergrounding be done and what would the cost be to take out the
improvements, pint in the utilities, and replace the 'improvements. It
appears as though the cost is being doubled
r. Mitchell stated that the Chamber discussion centered around the need
for a threshold by which a project is required to underground all
adjacent lines. mother discussion was the possibility of a new
residential project that retained the use of existing overhead
utilities, but the financial commitment paid by the ouilder/devloper
was used in other areas of the community with a higher priority for
immediate undergrounding. That is still an open issue.
Commissioner Chitiea stated: that then there is the problem- of new
development with aesthetics at ` a much lower level than other new
projects, It begins to look as though some are required to provide
certain improvements and others are not. It would almost appear as
though newer projects in the City would have lower, aesthetic standards
than what has been required currently giving the City a downward slide
look.
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Mitchell stated that the current policy does not require .the .. :
undergrounding of oo kv lines and unfortunately there have been
instances where the City has required the undergrounding of the 12 Kv
line and telecommunications lines, but there are poles remaining to
carry the 66 Kv lines. If there are to be remaining lines, it would be
better to leave all the lines on the poles, assess a fee, and use that
fee in another portion of the community.
Commissioner Emerick asked what the technical reason was for the 66 Kv
linos net being undergrunded.
Mr. Mitchell suggested referring to the utility companies for that
information
Mr. Hanson asked if the Chamber was requesting that heir ;proposal
exempt those properties altogether from the policy, and if there should
.still in fact be an in-lieu fee.
r. Mitchell stated that portion of the proposal would become the new
threshold by ;.which Commission and Council would have discretion as to
whether on site udergroundi ng would be required for that particular
site and that the Chamber was not recommending that hose be exempt. I
Chairman McNiel asked f in-lieu fees have a time l i i t and if not used
o back to the developer,
r. Maguire stated that there is a time limit.
Chairman McNiel asked if any discussion would not be in the form of; an
in-lieu 'ee but would be a type of development fee.
r. Maguire stated that a development fee would require State
legislation. The City Attorney has researched the situation and the
City cannot establish a general development fee for purposes of
undergrounding without State legislation.
Chairman McNiel asked if there were any other questions
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o issioner Emerick commented with respect to corner properties and
stated that he felt the current criteria is a hardship. A developer not
only has to improve both streets but also has to underground those
utilities. He also stated he could see in a particular situation why` it
may be a hardship;, especially In a residential area where a corner
location possibly doesn't add value to the property.
r. Mitchell commented that in a commercial project, having more
frontage is an advantage, but in a residential project that is not
necessarily true.
Commissioner Emerick stated that with respect' to residential
development, it could be argued that having two exposures is an inherent
design constraint. Maybe the land owner should take the additional
costs into account in respect to what his land is worth.
Chairman McNiel asked if there was utility company representation.
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pay taxes, which results in d . The Public Utilities Commission looked
at the issue, and most felt it would be a good idea to pass the increase
onto the rate; payers. Even with the testimony heard, the administrative
line judge said he would recommend to the Commissioners that the tax be
passed onto the contributor. He is recommending that it not be ' but
C to 0 , because if it is a piece of property, there are depreciation
benefits over a period time. The 30 number is taking into
consideration that these depreciation benefits should be passed back to
the City{ or County. They have present-valued that and figured the
increase to be approximately 0%.
Chairman an c iel asked when Edison would have definite numbers.
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Ms. Wells stated that when the Commission rakes their decision, the
final number will be determined.
r. Hanson asked if C was a high probability.
s. Wells answered yes, and stated that the rate payers are getting
tremendous benefits from the Tax Act. Edison suggested to the
Commission that due to the rate payers receiving such a substantial
benefit, to pass the tax through, that mechanism. The 30 oul d be a
one-time- cost
Commissioner Emerick asked if there was any economy by underground ng
the smaller lines and 66 Kv line at the same time to reduce the cost of
undergrounding the; u Kv line.
r. Gardeniere stated that the only economy would be using a similar
contractor and having concurrent construction. The savings would not be
substantial unless the project was 100 feet, for example.
s. Karnes added that the reason there is not a greater savings is the
lines go in separate trenches.
Mr. -Hanson asked if the 300 per foot included the increase..
# s. Karnes stated it did not.
Mr. Maguire asked if previous PUC regulations prohibiting the City's
ability to require 66 Kv lines or larger to be undergrounded were still
in effect
s. Karnes stated there were none she was aware o .
Chairman McNiel asked where the Edison Company became involved in the
expense of doing the work under Rule 20A.
Miss Karnes stated that each year she provides the City with the
allocation for the' year for City projects to be set aside in a separate
account within dison's banking system. This allocation is based on the
number of overhead meters located within the City limits. Last year,
the allocation was approximately $74,000. A lump sum of $30 million
will be distributed among all the Cities for 1987.
Chairman McNiel asked if that was specifically for City projects, or if
it could be used in any specific way.
Mr. Maguire stated that it's a joint agreement designating a project
within an underground district.
Miss Karnes added that the City is currently borrowed ahead
approximately $5UI,UOO because of projects on Archibald and Base Line
which required additional funds.
Mr. Hanson stated that it would take approximately 7 years at the
current allotment to "get out of the red".
Miss Karnes said the Edison Company has currently been working with the
League of California Cities in an attempt to change the formula of the
allocation. The Edison Company is trying to change the formula so 45%
of the allocation will be distributed according to overhead meters, and
another 45% will be distributed according to total meters in the system,
which includes meters already serviced by underground means. Ten
percent of that money will be set aside for "special projects" which
will be administered by a Committee representing Counties and Cities.
Funds will then be provided for special projects such as the Law and
Justice Center, City Hall or a regional park. The Committee will
determine if the project is worthwhile enough for additional funding.
If the Public Utilities Commission passes the new formula, the
allocation will almost double.
Mr. Mitchell stated that the Chamber looked at possible implementation
strategies. It seemed that the newer growing communities were being
somewhat penalized in comparison to older, already developed and
established communities, if the allocation were to remain based on the
number of existing facilities, It is newer growing communities that
have a higher need for more funding sooner. He also felt one of the
answers is to seek a new distribution formula at the PUC level . Some of
the concerns relating to the use of the fees could possibly be covered
by the enabling legislation at the State level for the City to enact its
own development fee program.
Commissioner erick asked if developers east of Haven Avenue should be
charged a fee to underground utilities for in-fill projects, but also
may be paying a small fee to underground other parts of the City where
the lines are above ground.
Mr. Mitchell questioned whether residents who live in the new planned
community areas derive benefit from visiting a City park or a civic
facility that might be located in an area west of Haven. If part of the
undergrounding fees were used to underground lines in front of the
Neighborhood Center on Arrow, and a resident from a planned community
were to use recreational programs at that facility, would they benefit
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from that? The resident probably would. Not; to the same extent as
undergrounds ng 'lines in front of the resident's house. He suggested a
differential fee system be devised based on the amount of under round ng
done by that project and in that community. The Chamber f el
different approach should be,taken in regards to the area east of Haven,
whether that approach meant no contribution on a fee basis or a
differential fee,
Hal Overton, General Telephone District Manager introduced Gene
Hernandez, Outside Plan Engineering, who discussed the 300 vs 60U foot
undergrounding and the 67 percent'increase.
r. Hernandez stated that the Telephone Company would prefer the longer
lengths to underground as does the Edison Company, because taking down
one pole is not a benefit. The longer the undergroundi ng section, the
better it fits the Telephone Company's requirements and reduces
interruptions to customers
Regarding the contributions in aid of construction, the Telephone
Company's Tax Manager has taken a position for the company that there
will be no collecting of taxes until the Public Utilities Commission
takes a firm position on the ruling. There will also be no collecting
of in-lieu fees.
Chairman McNiel asked the TaxManager's position regarding the "bottom
line", what it's going to fall at and if is a reasonable number*.
Mr. Hernandez stated that no speculation has been made as to what
percentage may come about.
There were no;other utility representations present.
Chairman McNiel stated that the meeting was generated due to the cosh to
the developers and ultimately the end user, and because suddenly the
number drastically increased. He further stated that the Commission
would have to; come to a recommendation to allow the policy to go to the
City Council either in its current form, an altered form, or a new
form. He asked for comments from the Commission.
The Commissioners chose to address each item separately.
4 Increase minimum length from 0 feet to 600 feet.
Chairman McNiel asked if there was any discussion, and pointed out that
the discussion was regarding the increase of minimum length from 300 to
600 feet
Commissioner hitiea stated that she didn't see any reason not to have
tne''increasew
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Commissioner Emerick suggested clarifying policy further to ensure i
not be interpreted as are outright exemption, that in-lieu fees will have
to be paid.
Mr. Hanson suggested merely changing the present resolution to read 600
feet rather than 300 feet* He also pointed out that the resolution
later states the developer shall pay are in-lieu fee. j
It was unanimous on the issue of increasing the minimum length from 300
to 60U feet
. Granting special consideration for corner parcels:
Commissioner Emerik asked if there was an issue with respect to corner
lots in the existing ordinance, whether it is sufficient with respect to
undergrounding.
It was decided to not change the; existing policy specifically granting
special 'consideration for corner parcels, because the current policy
already has a provision for the Commission to grant waivers under
special conditions,
3. Disposition of railroad utilities:
Chairman McNiel asked if passenger rail travel was going to continue
through the City.
Mr, Maguire Mated that there was one passenger train per day that
passes through the City..
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that the Commission make it a policy to
underground the railroad facilities, but have it done all at once with
using some kind of mechanism to raise the money.
This suggestion was agreed upon by Chairman McNiel and Commissioner
hitiea,
. Utility inventory:
Chairman McNiel asked Ms. Karnes if the Edison Company had an inventory
on utility 'lines.
Miss Karnes stated that the Edison Company has an inventory map.
Chairman McNiel also asked the Telephone Company representative if they
have a similar map.
r. Overton said they did.
Chairman iel suggested the Commission validate the numbers through
what is available from the utility companies.
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Commissioner Chitiea suggested that the Commission get the information
needed to implement programs
Chairman McNiel suggested that the rail lines be included in that
number.
Commissioner Emerick stated he ,felt the primary reason for needing
information now is to make the determination on implementation, whether
it be assessment district or by fees, if there is legislation passed by
the State that allows the Commission to do so. The maps that the
utility companies will provide will be sufficient to make a preliminary
determination of implementation.
Commissioner Tol stoy stressed that he felt the Commission did not need
"fine-tuned" information.
Commissioner issioner 'Chiti` a stated that the Commission should have only enough
information to implement the program.
It was decided that the Commission look toward substantiating the
figures presented to the Commission by Mr. Hanson.
. Assessment district and underrounding fee:
Chairman McNiel suggested that if the Commission determines there is a
need for the assessment district and send; this recommendation to the
City Council , that it be "tagged' with enabling legislation. Then a
comprehensive utility inventory will be done.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the utility companies ` figures were the
same as presented to the Commission by Mr. Hanson.
Miss Karnes said the figures were reached by one of the formulas used.
The City always receives the highest figure.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that the figures presented to the Commission
were adequate until legislation is passed to allow the Commission to
have any further discussion.
Criss Karnes added, for the Commission's information, that Edison
currently has 185 miles of underground utilities within the City.
The Commission decided to suggest to the City Council that they pursue
both the assessment district and underground fen approach as methods of
undergroundi ng utilities throughout the City.
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r. Hanson stated that he would return to theCommission with
memorandum summarizing the conclusions of the Commission regarding
utility unaergrounding.
Res Submitted,
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CITE" OF RANCHO' CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
April 22, 1987
Chairman Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7.00 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Pare Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman McNidl then led in the pledge of allegiance,
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS. PRESENT': Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emeric , Lamy
McNi el , Peter Tol stay
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner; Greg Gage, Assistant
Planner;; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph
Hanson,; Deputy City Attorney; Debra Meier, Assistant
Planner; Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner; Janice Reynolds,
Planning Commission Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the first public hearing for the
Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan would be held on April 30, 1987. He advised
that the meeting would be held at Lions Park Community Center, 911 Base Line
Road, Rancho Cucamonga, and would begin at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Buller additionally announced that item " " on this evening' s agenda was
provided for the Commission' s information only and that the item would not be
discussed at this meeting.
Chairman Larry McNiel presented a Resolution of Commendation to E. David
Barker for his participation as a Planning Commissioner.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87- 2 - INVESTMENT
BU'ILDINia GROUP -- The--develop ent of a 212,289 square foot industrial
bui ding n 9.5 acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea
14 , located approximately 650 feet north of 4th Street on the east side
of Santa Anita Avenue - APN 29-331-10, 11.
B. RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
87-08 - WESTERN PROPERTIES - The developaaent of an office park consisting
of four -story buildings totaling 250,000 square feet on 16.58 acres of
land in the Office Park District of the Terra Vista Planned Community,
located at the northeast corner of Haven Avenue and Town Center Drive -
APN 1011-421-06, 10, and 09. (Related to this project is Tree Removal
Permit 87-20, requesting the removal of two groves of 'Eucalyptus trees
(approximately 56 trees) within the site.
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the applicant for item " B" requested
that the item be pulled and sent back to the Design Review Committee.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerlck, unanimously carried, to adopt
item "A" of the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10543, - BARTON
DEV L PMENT - A subdivision 6if_4_.29 acres of landli_nto7 parcels in the
General Industrial District (Subarea 8) , ; located on the north side of
Jersey Boulevard between Utica Avenue and Vincent Avenue - APN 209-142-11,
12
Barrye' Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There r n
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were o comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed,
Motion* Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerik, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Parcel Map 10543. Motion carried by the following voter
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTO
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. NONE -carried
Planning Commission Minutes -2- April 22, 198
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D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 7-1 - MULLER - The
request fora Master Conditional Use Permit to alloy Financia , Insurance
and Real Estate services for Building E, F, and C; and a 9,365 square foot
recreational facility (Star Fitness Center) for Building E within an 18.4
acre approved Master Plan in the General Industrial District Subarea j,
located at the northwest corner of Archibald Avenue and` 9th Street a AN
09-01-15, 17, and 05.
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Staff suggested
that Condition 3 of the Resolution be modified to state that the modification
o the previously approved Master Plan and Design Review must reflect
additional parking.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Linda Unger, 77 El Arco, Rancho Cucamonga, applicant for Star' s Fitness
Center, concurred with the Conditions of Approval .
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what percentage of services would be provided to
non-members of the club.
M . Unger stated that the figure would be less than 10 percent.
Steve Muller, 2 Corporate Park;, Irvine, developer of the project, addressed
the parking concern and advised that this project would be designed as a low
tech development. He felt that adequate parking had been. prodded.
Commfssioner Tolstoy; stated while . he could see that overall the project
provided adequate parking, his concern was the; proximity to Building E.
Mr. Muller stat
ed that the. .parki
ng for the new user f o Building d`i n p_ g E the. former
Inspiron site) would ;be located on the west side of the building, which would
be the only main entry to the; property. He indicated; that this would be a
secured parking area.
Cheryl; Tarkington, 516 N. Orange, Riverside, stated that the peak hours for
Star' s Fitness Center would be after 5:00 p.m. and on weekends, which would be
off hours for the majority of the remaining businesses. She did not feel
there would" be a' parking problem.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that staff' s added condition to rewire a
edification to the previously approved Mas,ter Plan to reflect additional
parking would insure that adequate parking would be provided. He further
stated that the parking and security fencing could be conditioned to be
reviewed and approved by the Design Review Committee. If the Committee
determined it necessary, they could refer the item to the full Planning
Commission._
Planning Commission Minutes - - April 22, 17
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoyto issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution 'approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional
Use Permit 87-13, with an amendment to Condition 3 which would require that
the modification reflect additional parking. The parking and security fencing
is to be reviewed and approved by the Design Review Committee. Motion carried
by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: E ERIC , TULSTUY, C ITiEA, MCNIEL
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 7-1.0 _ SARMAKIAN -
The request for a Master Conditional Use Permit to a low Administrative
Offices;, Professional/Design Services, Financial Insurance and eal Estate
Service's within an existing multi-tenant Industrial Park in the General
Industrial District (Subarea 1 , located at the ; southwest corner of
Vineyard Avenue and Arrow Route - APN' O7-P14 .
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Staff suggested
that Planning Division condition 1 of the Resolution be modified to include
"as defined in the Industrial Specific Plan" at the end of the first sentence.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Andrew Barmakian, applicant, gave an overview of the request.
Jim Barton, 8409 Utica, Rancho` Cucamonga,, concurred that the timing involved
in obtaining a ' Conditional Use Permit is a problem. He felt that the
philosophy to open up the Conditional Use Permit process to a building
conditioned to allow other users to come in and which would not require
submittal on an individual` basis would bring more businesses to the City. He
felt that staff' s review of adequate landscaping and parking would provide the
necessary controls for the City.
There were no further comments , therefore the public hearing was closed;.
Commissioner E crick stated this is a goad area of town for this particular
project. He felt, that staff had addressed the parking concerns quite well .
His only concern was that some of the industrial uses might be incompatible
with the other three'- uses proposed in the Master CUP; however, he felt that
this concern could betaken care of by the applicant when he leases the units.
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Planning Commission Minutes - - April 22, 1987
Commissioner Chitiea was concerned with giving a carte blanche CUP to a large
project; however, felt the type of uses proposed were reasonable and
appropriate. She felt the comments relative to attracting business were
important and should be taker into consideration. Based on the parking
figures provided, she supported' the project.
Commissioner Tolstoy supported the comments; however, was concerned with
Faster CUP because often individual circumstances may need close investigation
and design measures to mitigate problems that might be unique to any one
user. He asked if there could be a condition on a Master CUP that before a
tenant could move into a building, the City was made aware of the user.
Mr, duller explained: staf;f' s review process for permitted uses. He pointed
out that the proposed uses are the type of uses that the impacts are
negligible and therefore staff felt comfortable in recommending approval of
this Master Conditional Use Permit.
Chairman McNiel stated that the uses proposed are an upgrade from those
typically in an industrial park. He felt that since the applicant intends to
move his offices into this complex he would be particular as to who he leases
to, He stated that his concern would be if the uses proposed were less than
what is permitted.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he had no problem with this particular project;
however, in general he had a problem with the concept that the Commission is
going to grant Master Conditional Use Permits to other type situations. '
Chairman McNiel suggested that staff be directed to establish guidelines for
reviewing future Master Conditional Use Permits,
Commissioner Chitiea staged that this project should be closely monitored.
She pointed out that Commission should be careful to protect the Industrial
Specific Plan so that the balance of zoning and planning for office and
professional is not altered.
Commissioner Emerick asked if it would be; possible to require noise mitigation
if there proved to be a problem between users.
. Boller advised that if staff determined at the time tenant improvements
were submitted that noise would be a problem, they could require additional
sound insulation.
Commissioner Tolstoy reiterated his opposition to blanket UPas. I`n this
case, he felt that the conditions were such that he could support the
Resolution.` He agreed this was a special; project, and; that space for
incubator users was important.
Planning Commission Minutes - April 22, 1987
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Condit'±ional Use Permit 87-1O, with an amendment to planning Division condition
I to add "as defined in the Industrial Specific Plan" to the end of the first
sentence. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, CHITIEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
F. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-08 - CUCAMONGA CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP A proposal
to establish three classrooms and a mu ti-_purpose room for an existing
church within an Industrial Park, (Subarea' ), at the northwest corner of
7th Street and Archibald - APN 07-171- 6.
Greg Gage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He advised that
Condition 1 of the Resolution should be deleted.
Chairman McNil opened the public hearing,
Steve Fitch, 838 Lucite, Rancho- Cucamonga, addressed the Commission on
behalf of the applicant and urged approval .
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion; Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emeric , to .adopt the Resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 87-O8, Motion carded by the following vote:
AWES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, EMEIC , CHITEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-06 - RANCHO
UCAMON A REALTY PROPERTIES II, LTD - A request to serve alcoholic
beverages within an established 3,700 square foot restaurant within the
Neighborhood Commercial District NC located at the northeast comer of
lgth and Archibald 9740 19th Street) - APN 20 =171-g7.
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing.
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James Barton, 8409 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, supported the applicant' s
request. He observed that there has never been a problem with parking in this
center and supported a reduction in required parking spaces. He stated that
this restaurant is one in the 'City which is doing a good business and urged
the Commission to grant the expansion request.
Mr. Hamblin, adjacent business owner;, supported the request and concurred that
parking is not a problem in the center.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea recalled problems the City encountered with the Hoar'
Head on 19th and Carnelian. She suggested that the conditions reflect
restrictions on ;hours of operations.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that since the applicant for this project
was not in attendance at the meeting, the Commission might consider continuing
the public hearing to allow the applicant to present his case.
Chairman McNiel concurred and pointed out that this would allow staff" time to
reviews the paring issue. With the concurrence of the Commissioners, he
reopened the public hearing for purposes of continuation.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolsto , to continue the public hearing
for Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use permit 7-06 to the May13th
agenda, Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TGL TOY,: MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK
ABSENT': COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Commissioner Emerick clarified his "No" vote by stating that he felt
comfortable with the parking situation to make a decision to approve the
project at this time
: U p.m. - Planning Commission Recessed
:SO p.m. - Planning Commission Reconvened
H. ENVIRONMENTAL. ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 6.04 -RY ER> - The
eve o ent of a true rents , ease, sae and maintenance facility on
4.23 acres of land in the General Industrial District (Subarea; 14) located
on the west side of Santa Anita Avenue north of 41:1 Street - APN 2 9- -
O6.
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Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report®
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Mitch Nakamuro, _1. 17 Spruce, Bloomington, representing the applicant, gave an
overview of the project and concurred with the Resolution and conditions of
approvals
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated serious concerns with the screening of the project
due to its location hear 4th Street and the freeway. She stated she would be
concerned with this type of use at this location unless it was adequately
screened.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred and further stated that it would be helpful if
staff could` provide a line of sight drawing of the view from the freeway.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that staff concurred with the Commission' s
concerns and advised'' that a condition of approval' for the project was that
screening he provided which would screen views from 4th " Street and the
freeway. He pointed out that the .screening was required to be submitted to
the Design Review Committee for approval prior to the issuance of building
permits, and was also conditioned on approval by the City Engineer due to
drainage problems in the area. He indicated that if the Design ;Review
Committee deemed necessary, it could refer the item to the full Planning
Commission for review and approval . He advised that if the Commission was
uncomfortable with this direction, staff would recommend-a continuation of the
public hearing to allow staff an opportunity to complete a line of sight
study.
Chairman MNiel stated he felt comfortable ;enough with the conditions to
approve the project, given that the Design Review> Committee could refer the
project to the full Commission if they are dissatisfied with the screening
solution.
Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Cmeric , to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and.
Conditional Use Permit H -D4. Motion carried by the following vote;
AYES; COMMISSIONERS. CHITIEA, EMERIC I, MCNIEL, T4LSTDY
NOES; COMMISSIONERS. NONE
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MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMITSHERIFF & ASSOCIATES -
Proposal for remodeMn-g- the—Store- f'room-f-fa—ca—de—,—minor---E-u-i-T ding--ad'it7i-ons
and reconstruct drive approaches for an existing Neighborhood Commercial
shopping center on 7.8 acres of land< in the Neighborhood Commercial (NC)
District located at the northeast corner of Carnelian Avenue and Base Line
Road - APN 202-381-24 thru 26, 28 thru 33, 35 and 36.
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea thought that the roof was to be consistently green
throughout the project and not a combination of orange and green.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the applicant feels strongly that the
tower elements should be treated with a different color material . He
suggested that the Commission discuss this issue.
Commissioner Tolstoy questioned the recent painting of Carl ' s Jr. and asked if
they received approval .
Mr. Buller indicated that staff had met with representatives from Carl Jr. who
indicated their intent and willingness to work with the City to make their
project consistent with this project proposal . He advised that if revised
plans were not submitted to the City by Carl ' s Jr. , staff would proceed with
code enforcement action.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing.
Garth Sheriff, project architect, stated a willingness to comply with the
Commission' s direction relative to roof color. He indicated that the
applicant would like to proceed with the project as quickly as possible in
order to complete the remodeling before the Christmas season. He addressed
the issue of utility undergrounding and requested that the Commission waive
the requirement. He indicated that if the requirement was not waived, the
project financially would not be able to proceed under this Conditional Use
Permit modification request, but might proceed under the original approval .
Sally Forester-Jones, representing Capri Properties, stated that the
undergrounding requirement would impose $325,772 in additional costs, or 58%
of the total project cost. She reiterated Mr. Sheriff' s comments that the
project could not proceed with that requirement.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick advocated the use of one roof color and suggested that
orange might be the more appropriate choice given the red the used on
adjacent projects. He felt the applicant had a valid point relative to
under grounding and suggested that the Commission explore means which would
allow the project to proceed.
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Commissioner Tol stay stated he had no objection to the roof colors submitted
by the applicant. He commented that the architectural treatment of the j
buildings on the east side of the project next to the high school should be
extended the length of the buildings. He concurred that the Commission should
work with the applicant on the undergrounding issue.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that the idea behind the use of a green metal roof
was that it would create a statement of its own rather than are attempt to
emulate the red the roofs of adjacent projects. She felt orange used with
the green would create a garrish look, and suggested a different shade of
green could be used as a contrast. She stated that the tower details and the
color should be brought to the Design Review Committee for review and
approval . Relative to utility undergrounding, she suggested a compromise that
the applicant underground utilities on Rase Line and that an exception could
be made on Carnelian. She indicated that she would not like a precedent set;
however, pointed out that this modification was only for a B increase in
total building area. She `felt that undergrounding was an important aesthetic
issue for the City, however, would not like to see the project lost since the
improvements are significant for this particular property.
Chairman Mciel stated he did not object to the green roof, however, suggested
that the orange be toned down somewhat. He agreed that undergrounding should
be negotiated given that this project has special circumstances. He asked for
a response from the applicant relative to Commissioner Chitiea" s suggestion to
underground the utilities on Rase Line. He then reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Sheriff stated that undergrounding on Base Line alone would be a $175,000
cost . to the project. He indicated that an option to the developer might be
develop the site under the original Conditional Use Permit which was still in
effect
s. Forester-Jones indicated a willingness to work with staff and the
Commission on the architectural issues-, however, concurred that the cost of
undergrounding would be prohibitive to the project.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Fmerick felt that requiring the undergrounding on one side of the
project would be appropriate
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred with undergrounding along the Base Line
frontage, but indicated he would not like to 'see the project lost due to the
undergrounding costs.
Commissioner Chitiea stated she was an advocate of the City' s undergrounding
policy, especially along Special Boulevards. Based on information that the
applicant could proceed under the original Conditional Use Permit, however,
she would opt- for the better design and grudgingly eliminate the
undergrounding requirement.
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Chairman McNiel supported> utiI i ty undergrounding along Base Line. He stated
that the City ;has fought hard for undergrounding and did not think the
requirement should relaxed.
Mr. Buller pointed out that the original Conditional Use Permit for the
project allows a certain- square foot addition. He indicated that if the
difference between the square ;footage originally approved and that which is
being proposed is less than the 5,0;00 square feet the current undergrounding
policy would exempt this project. He added that Condition la could reflect
this condition.
Ralph Hansoms Deputy City Attorney, suggested an addition to Building and
Safety Division condition 1 by adding section "C" stating "to demonstrate to
the satisfaction of the Building Official that agreements or other
considerations have been developed for fire call -separation at the property
line as required by the Building Code" .
Mr. Sheriff indicated that the developer would agree to this condition;
however, stated that the applicant has agreed to record all parcels as one.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to approve theproject with
additional conditions that the colors and architectural details be submitted
to the Design Review Committee for review and approval , as well as the
continuation of the facade along the east building elevation, the inclusion of
Building and Safety condition 1 c. as ;proposed by the City Attorney, the
statement added to Engineering condition la as proposed by the City planner to
elimination the utility undergrounding requirement if the project does not
exceed 5,000 square feet from the existing CUP. Motion failed 2-2, with
CommissionersChi ti ea and McNi l voting No.
Motion: Moved by Chitie , seconded by McNiel , to approve the project with
undergrounding required along Base Line, the colors, architectural details,
and east building elevation facade to be reviewed and approved by the Design
Review Committee; and the inclusion of Building and Safety condition I c. as
proposed by the City Attorney. Motion failed -2 with Commissioners Emerick
and Tolstoy voting No.
r. Buller suggested that the utilities along Base Line be required but
recommended the following statement be added: "cif the additional square
footage does not exceed 5,000 square feet from that which has been previously
approved by the existing Conditional Use Permit. . ." He indicated that if
the records prove that the applicant is increasing the approved building
square footage more than 5,000 square feet the utilities along Base Line must
be placed underground:.
Motion;:: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving the modification to Conditional Use Permit84-34 with conditions
requiring that the colors and architectural details be submitted to the Design
Reviews Committee, for review and approval ; as well as the continuation of the
facade along the east building elevation; the inclusion of Building and Safety
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condition I c. as proposed by the City Attorney; the statement added to
Engineering condition la as proposed by the City Planner stating that if the
increase in building size is more than 5,000 square feet, underroundig of
utilities along Base Line is required. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS. EM RIC , TOLSTOY, CHITIEA
NOES: COMMISSIONERS; MNIEL
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 7-11 - ELKS LODGE NO.
S`70 - A proposal to locate an El s Lodge of 6,OS7` square feet within a
multi-tenant industrial center in the Industrial Park District (Subarea
6 , located at 8686 Utica Avenue - APN 209-142-18.
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Ralph Manson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested that Condition 1 of the
Resolution be deleted which established that the approval would be void upon
change of ownership or if the use ceases. He further suggested a modification
to condition 6 to reflect that plans are to be submitted and approved b
Foothill Fire District.
Chairman Mcil opened the public hearing.
John Mannerino, 5610 Sapphire, Rancho Cucamonga, representing the applicant,
gave an overview of the request.
Commissioner Chitiea asked for a clarification of the applicant' s request to
hold 24 parties throughout the year.
Mr. Mannerino responded that the Lodge would do business under a private club
license which does not permit the sale of alcoholic beverages to the general
public; however regulations would allow the Lodge to purchase 24 catering
permits per site.
Commissioner Chitiea: asked if Mr. Mannerino could project the number of people
who would use the facility under these circumstances.
Mr. Mannerino indicated that it could be as fern as ten and as many as 200.
Commissioner Tolsoy questioned the number of ,people who would use the facility
at lunch time.
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Mr. Mannerino advised that lunches were not currently proposed; ;however, if
lunches were proposed at a later date the establishment would only be open to
club members. He indicated that luncheons would be held on special occasions
and not on a day-to-day basis.
Jim Barton,; 80 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, was concerned that the parking be
totally contained within this site.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that there would be a code enforcement
problem with trying to monitor the parking situation. He indicated one
solution would be to place' a condition that any rental agreements processed by
the Elks Lodge would include a statement as to where attendants could or could
not park. He further suggested that the responsibility for the enforcement of
parking be placed on the Elks Lodge. He advised that if surrounding tenants
experience a parking problem, they could contact the City at which time
revocation might be considered.
Commissioner Emerick suggested security guards or members of the lodge be
required to monitor the parking situations when large parties are held at the
establishment.
Mr. Mannerino stated the Elks Lodge would be willing to put a condition in the
lease that the Elks Lodge would guarantee against infringement of parking on
off-parcel sites* He further Mated that County ordinances require security
guards for largo parties, therefore that concern would be taken care of by
those means'.
There were no further` comments,: therefore the public
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit ; 87-1.1 with amendments to include the
requirement' of a notice to and renter of the establishment that all parking
must occur on this parcel . In addition, a representative of the Elks would be
responsible` for monitoring,the enforcement of this condition with violation of
this condition being grounds for consideration of revocation of the CUP;
deletion of condition I as proposed by the City Attorney; and modification to
condition 6 to require plans to be submitted to and approved by Foothill Fire
District, Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TUL TOY, CNITIEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 87-14 NEW HOPE
CHURCH - A request establish a 7,000 square foot church within an
existing 190 square foot multi-'tenant industrial facility in the
General Industrial Land Use District (Subaru, ) , located at 95 1-A
Business Center Or - APN 9-0 1- 9._
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Staff suggested
that Condition 1 be deleted and that Condition 6 be modified to state that
plans should be submitted to and approved by the Foothill Fire District and
Building and Safety Division prior to building permits.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Bryon Spradlin, 9408 Hillside, Rancho Cucamonga, supported the Resolution and
Conditions of Approval .
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea was concerned that all safety elements be installed prior
to occupancy. She felt that Condition 7 should be modified.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, suggested that Condition 7 be modified to state
that the building could not be occupied except for offices until the Building
and Fire Code requirements are met.
Commissioner Toltoy stated that the City has experienced many problems in the
past with trying to enforce compliance of the Building and Fire Code
requirements if the structure is allowed to be occupied prior to meeting these
conditions. He suggested that in all applications of this type, staff include
the language that the building could not be occupied until completion of the
safety requirements.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred and further stated she would like to see' a
stricter interpretation of the Foothill Fire District' s requirements.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Conditional Use Permit 87-14, with modifications to include the deletion of
Condition 1 modification to Condition 6 to require plans to be submitted to
and approved by the Foothill Fire District* and modification to Condition 7 to
state that the building may not be occupied except for office activities until
completion of all Foothill ' Fire District and Building and Safety
requirements. Motion carried by the following vote':
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, EMERIC , MCNIEL
HOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1.3305 - LEWIS HOMES - The
total development of a residential subdivision of08 acres, within the
Terra Vista Planned Community (Low-Medium Residential 4-8 dwelling units
per acre into 48 lots) , located on the southwest corner of Terra Vista
Parkway and Mountain View Drive - APN P 7 151-1 .
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the applicant for this item
requested it continuance to the May 27, 1987 agenda. j
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chltiea, unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing for Environmental Assessment and Tentative Tract
13305 to the May 27, 1987 agenda
NEW BUSINESS
M. TERRA VISTA NORTHEAST QUADRANT` AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN LEWIS HOMES
Consi eratio`n of an area d eve opment playa for the northeast qua d rant df
the Terra Vista Planned Community for that portion of Tura Vista located
south of Base Line Road, north of the central major greenway spine, east
of Milliken Avenue, and west of :Rochester Avenue.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report..
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
John Melchor, representing' Lewis Homes, gave an overview of the request.
Commissioner Emerick stated he would like ;to see additional landscaping
amenities such as plaza elements, drinking fountains and benches.
Commissioner Chitiea felt that all - trails in the City !should be ,reviewed by
the Trails Committee. She felt that it is important that the trail beginnings
and endings were appropriate as well as the trail design. She suggested that
the condition be amended to require the trails to be reviewed by the Trails
Committee for their comments prior to review by the Design Review Committee.
Motion': Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Terra Vista. Northeast Quadrant Area Development Plan, with an
amendment to Planning Division 1 to require the trails alignment for the
greenway system and the open space node area to be referred to the Trails
Committee for their recommendation to the Design Review Committee. Motion
carried by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA TOL TQY, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS* NONE -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
N. INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENTS - SUBAREA 8 - Review of existing
Subarea B land use n eveldpment stars ards requested by the City
Council .
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report.
It was the 'consensus of the Commission that the existing Industrial Specific
Plan provisions for Subarea B are appropriate. Additionally, the Commission
concurred with staff" s recommendation relative to ,line ' of sight studies for
developments adjacent to the I-IS Freeway.
O', COMMUNITY PARKWAY TRAIL ON BERYL
The report was received and filed as information only.
P. BILLBOARD AMORTIZATION
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
It was the consensus of the Commission to direct staff to proceed with
establishment of a list of existing billboards in the City along with the
probability of those signs being removed by development.
PLANNING DIVISION WORK PROGRAM - Oral Report
The report was received and filed.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no Commission business.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
`mere were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion. Moved by Tdlst ,y, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
11; 0 p.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submit d,
Brad Buller
Deputy Secretary
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-CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
April B, 1987
Chairman Larry McNil called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California, Chairman McNil then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS. PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce Emeri;ck, Larry
McNil , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner flan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Bruce Gook, Associate Planner; Howard Fields, Assistant
Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner; Greg Cage,
Assistant Planner, Barrye Hanson, Senior CivilEngineer;
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Scott Murphy, Assistant
Planner; Janice Reynolds, Planning Commission Secretary;
Rubin Yu, Associate Planner
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 12873 - PARAGON HOMES - A total
residential develd ent o? 30 single family etached homes on' G0.S acres
of land in the Low-Medium Density Residential District 48 dwelling
units/acre) , located on the east side of Haven Avenue, between Lemon
Avenue and.. Banyan Street - APN 2 1-271-2G, 30, 44, 45, 4E "and 47.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW B -29 - BARNES - The
eve o ent df a -stary 10,566 square ?oat u, ti tenant building in the
General Industrial District (Subarea ;3) of the Industrial Specific Plan,
located on the northwest corner of gth Street and Helms Avenue _ APN 208-
02-1 .
. RESOLUTION FOR VARIANCE 7-0 - DECKK DEVELOPMENT - A request to reduce
the side and front yard setback areas, and to exceed the height limitation
for a proposed -11,000 square foot office building at 9113 Foothill,
Boulevard in the Office Professional District located on the south side of
Foothill Boulevard, west of Hellman Avenue, and east of Vineyard Avenue
APN 208-2 1-09,
Commissioner Tolstoy 'requested that Item C of the 'Consent Calendar be pulled
for discussion,
Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to adopt
Items A and of the Consent Calendar.
C. RESOLUTION FOR VARIANCE 67- 2 - DEC DEVELOPMENT
Commissioner Tolstoy was concerned with` the tuck under parking, design and
asked that it be reviewed by the Design Review Committee to insure the design
mitigated the Commission' s, concern,
Motion: Moved by Chi-tiea, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to adopt
Item C' of the Consent Calendar. The tuck under parking is to be reviewed by
the Design Review Committee,
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Mc i el advised that the following items were being recommended for
continuance, therefore would be advanced in the agenda,
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 10393 _ EITHLUSk
COMPANY' - A sub ivislon of 79.2 acres of and into 33 parses in the
Industrial Park District (Subarea 16) located at the northwest corner of
Archibald Avenue and 4th Street - APN 2 0 062-13, 11, 02, 26, 33, 32,
Related File. DR - . (Continued from. March 25, 1907 meeting)
P. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 06-37 - KEITH/LUSK COMPANY
The evelopment of a Master Pan for a 7g.17 acre industrial park
consisting of 33 lots in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 16 ,
located at the northwest quadrant of 4th Street and Archibald Avenue - AN
21 -06 -02, 11, 13, 26, 32 AND 33. Related File: PM 10393. ' (Continued
from March 2 , 197 meeting)
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Bob Cunningham, representing the applicant, requested a continuance to the
Planning Commission agenda of May 13, 1987,
There were no further: comments.
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Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried to
continue Environmental Assessment and Parcel Map 10393 and Environmental
Assessment and Development Review - 7 to the Planning Commission agenda o
May 13 1987
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 6-30 - BROWN LEARY
The d ve opment of an 88 bed acute psychiatric hospita , approximatel,
53000 square feet of floor area, on 6.12 acres of land in the Industrial
Park District (Subarea ` 7) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at the
northeast corner of Arrow Route and Red Oak Street a- APN 08-351- ,
(Continued from. February 25, 1887)
Chairman McNiel announced the Planning Commission was in receipt of a letter
from this applicant requesting that the item be withdrawn from the agenda.
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 8 -08 AMENDED - SPETNAOEL -
request to waive the maximum height requirement of 56 feet for an
extendable radio antenna to allow an existing antenna to be extended to 7
feet on a .47 acre parcel in the Very Low Residential District (less than
dwelling units/acre) located at 5327 Carol Avenue - APN 1061- 1-19
(Continued from March 25, 187)
Oreg ,Oage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing.
Charles Spetnagel , 537 Carol , Rancho Cucamonga, gave an overview of his
request. 8e felt that the City' s code was in violation of P B-1 and urged the
Commission' s support of his request in its original form, or that they direct
staff to present an alternative which would be acceptable to him and the City.
Commissioner Emermick asked clarification of PRB-1.
r. Spetnagel stated that these letters stood for Public Radio Branch and was
put out by the Federal Communications' System. Mr, Spetnagel advised that this
was part of the Commission' s packet
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, advised that this was a federal directive
which could be binding on the City's ordinance. Be advised that. what Mr.
Spetnagel recited was essentially the definitive statement on the pre-emption
of local ordinances. He advised that Rancho" Cucaonga's ordinance contains
the balance of providing ghat appears to be a reasonable height for amateur
communications and balances against it the recognized rights of other citizens
in the surrounding area. Further, the ordinance appears to meet the basics of
P B-1 in that it allows reasonable communication.
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Commissioner Tolstoy asked; of the frequencies Mr. Spetnagel wished to operate
on, which one would require a tower over SD feet.
Mr. Spetnagel stated that 40, 20, and 80 meter bands would require a tower
over 50 feet. He stated that the Commission had discussed this issue at their
January 2th meeting and suggested that the Commissioners review the Minutes
of that meeting which were included in the report.
John Weymeyer, 8149 Lucinda, Rancho, Cucamonga, opposed the 'variance request.
Mr. Weymeyer presented a petition containing 36 names in opposition to the
antenna height
Sonny Sen ario, 8181 Lucinda, Rancho Cucamonga, opposed the antenna height.
He advised that he contacted the FCC and discovered that they have no rules
governing Haight of antennas and that this limitation was heft up to local
,jurisdictions. He was concerned that this issue has been heard by the
Planning Commission and City Council a number of times, which he felt was
waste of his tax: dollars and his time
Chairman Mciel advised that the Planning ;Commission was following the process
which was designed to allow all parties an opportunity to present their
arguments.
Penny Senario, 8181 Lucinda, Rancho Cucamonga, opposed the antenna height
based on aesthetic concerns.
r. Sptnagl stated he was paying for this process, not the taxpayers. H
advised that his tower height had been reduced to 30 feet since the January
2th meeting. Further, he had submitted documentation and engineered drawings
to City departments. He stated that he had attempted twice to gain permits
for the tower and was denied both times.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed..
Mr. Buller advised that the tower in existence is a free standing non-
retractable tower which is in violation of the `City' s current'standards.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, advised that the issue the Commission must
deal with is the Planning issue of making the findings to grant the variance
request
Commissioner Chitiea stated she saw no new information presented tonight
regarding special circumstances that would warrant granting the variance.
Commissioner Fmerick agreed and further stated that the applicant has made a
lack of showing why the four findings could be met. He could not support the
variance request.
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Commissioner Tol stoy stated the City° s ordinance is reasonable in that a 50
foot height for most bands is a reasonable height. He recommended denial of
the request.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Eme is ,; to adopt the Resolution
denying Environmental Assessment and variance BG-C . Motion carried by the
following vote*
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA EMERIC , MCNIEL, T LSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS; NONE carried
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the applicant would have a ten day
timef ame in which to appeal this decision of the Planning Commission. If an
appeal was not filed, staff would begin taking the steps necessary to proceed
with code enforcement of the antenna..
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 10208 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
A 'division of 1 -SE acres into 2 parce s wit in t e 'Low- e iur -0
dwelling units per acre Development District located; on the south side of
Feron Boulevard. between Ramona Avenue and Turner Avenue - APN 208-085-02,
03, and 14.
B4rry'e Hanson, Senior: Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing. There were no comments therefore
the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emeric , to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and.
Parcel Map 10208. Motion carried by the followingvote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, EMERIC , CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried'
H. MODIFICATION TO TENTATIVE TRACT 12830 - CITATION - A request to delete a
condition of approva requiring a modffied cu - e-sac: to be constructed at
the north end of Garnet Street for a previously approved tract consisting
of 103 single family lots on 21.41 acres of land in the Low-Medium Density
Residential District 4-8 dwelling units per acre) , located on the west
side of Beryl Street, north of Base Line Road - APN 02-21-40.'
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Barrye Hanson, Senior' Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Merry ;Linton, representing the applicant, advised that the modification was
being requested on behalf of the existing;residents.
Geraldine Putnam, 90 Lavine, supported the deletion of the modified cul-de-
sac and objected to the disruption of the parkway. She indicated that either
alternate 2 or 3 proposed by City staff;would be acceptable to the existing
residents on Lavine Street:.
Alex Sanchez, 9046 Lavine, supported deletion of the modified cul-de-sac. Be
additionally stated a concern with a one-foot opening left in the block wall
at the end of the cul-de-sac, and with the construction of two-story homes.
Mrs. Hillard, 7057 Garnet, was concerned with the installation of- a sidewalk,
and supported the deletion of the modified cul-de-sac. She indicated that the
neighborhood prsentliy experiences problems with teenagers from the high
school congregating at the end of the cul-de-sac*
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that the Planning Commission 'requirement of a cul-
de-sac, was a good one. In this case, however, he supported Alternate 2 since
it did not intrude on the lots of the adjacent residents and does allow for
street sweeping'
Commissioner Chid ea agreed and felt Alternate 2 would be a good compromise
between City policy and the desires of the neighborhood. she asked if staff
would comment on the addition of a street light at the end of the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Hanson indicated that he was unaware of the location of existing lights on
the street and advised that staff could look into the addition of a street
light.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if staff was aware of the problem with the opening
in the block wall .
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the block wall was required as a
condition of approval of the tract and that staff would look into the
situation.
Chairman Mriel supported Alternative 2 and felt it would be a good
compromise.
Motion: Moved by Tostoy, seconded by Emerick, to deny the modification to
Tentative Tract 12830. Staff was directed to proceed with Alternate 2 as
presented. Motion carried by the following vote*
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TULSTOY, EMERICK, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ASSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 85-37 MASCARENAS - The request to modify an ap`proveZ conceptual Master Plan
rem one restaurant pad to the deve,lopment of a 2,100 square foot fast
food drive-through restaurant and a 1.,750 square foot retail building on
0.84 acres of land within a D acre approved shopping center in the General
Commercial District, located at the northwest corner of Haven Avenue and
Town Center Drive - APN 1077-401-22.
Nancy Fong,: Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Mciel opened the public hearing..
Dan Richards, 8331 Utica, representing the applicant, gave an overview of the
project,
Commissioner Emerick was concerned with the amount of cars stacking behind the
order window of the fast food restaurant
Mr . Richards indicated that staff° s Alternative E-1 should mitigate any
problems with stacking of cars at the order window.
Commissioner Emorick noted that the order and pick up windows were fairly
close together and asked if the applicant anticipated traffic congestion doe
to their proximity.
Mr. Richards did not anticipate any congestion due :to the location of the two
windows. He advised that if these issues were of concern to the Commission,
they could be addressed during Design Review.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed,
Commissioner Chitiea stated that the architectural changes that have been made
have come a long; way and are representative of the Design Review Committee' s
comments and were acceptable from her point of view. She indicated the major
concern was the site plan and the stacking of cars. Her concern would be that
the stacking not impact the entry way which would be served by the traffic
signal .
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Commissioner Emerick stated he liked the architecture of the :building and did
not have an objection to the land use. His concern was the stacking or
loading of traffic. He felt it may be an inherent impossibility because of
the design constraints of the site to address adequately the stacking and
loading issues.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated when reviewing this site, not only the Brunswick
site should be considered but also the adjacent theater site as well . He felt
the site had a circulation, problem which he was unsure could be mitigated. He
was concerned that people using the traffic configuration would be confused by
the irregular shape of the lot, especially when the theater and bowling alley
traffic is heavy. He questioned the feasibility of using an "entry only" and
"exit only" type of configuration, thus creating one entrance and one exit.
Paul Rougeau, City Traffic Engineer, commented that one-way aisles were
considered during the review of this project; however, this concept was not
presented as an alternative. He indicated that a study regarding the amount
of adequate room for stacking had not been, done by City engineering staff, but
possibly has been done by the fast food industry.
. Buller recapped the Commission' s comments that it finds the design of the
site as far as architecture and landscaping adequate and acceptable for this
location. However, the traffic and stacking issues were of major concern t
the Commission. He suggested consideration of a continuance to allow staff to
research and analyze regulations for fast 'food restaurants in other cities, a
well as standards for=stacking. '
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing.
r•. Richards stated he would consent to a continuance to work with staff o
the traffic and stacking issue
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing for Environmental Assessment and Conditional Use
Permit 8 - 7 to the May 18, 1987 agenda.
J. MODIFICATION TO TENTATIVE TRACT 12952 - GLENFED - A request to delete a
condition of approval- requiring the a ition of one floor" plan with
elevations for a previously approved tract consisting of 172 single family
lots on 34 acres of land in the Low-Medium Density Residential District
4-8 dwelling units per acre) , located at the end of 19th Street, south of
Highland Avenue - APN202-211-36.
cott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed.
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Mot ion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving the deletion of Condition 9 of Resolution 86-38. Motion carried by
the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, EMERICK, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13443 - WILLIAM LYON COMPANY
K_res i dent i aT -_. tract subdivision' of in -i-h—e--low-Medium
Residential District (4-8 dwelling units per acre) , within the Victoria
Planned Community into 144 lots, located on the southeast corner of
Milliken Avenue and Victoria Park Lane - APN 227-011-01, 02, 03, and 227-
081-01.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steve" lord, representing the William Lyon Company, stated concurrence with
the Resolution and conditions of approval .
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if a time frame had been established for completion
of Th-e Lakes.
Mr. Ford advised that he would be meeting with City staff on May 5th at which
time the areas of setting design criteria, engineering criteria and time frame
for preparing an initial submittal to the Design Review Committee would be
discussed.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative
Tract 13443. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, TOLSTOY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13444 - WILLIAM LYON COMPANY
- A residential tract subdivision of 46.91 acres in the Low Resi `ontial
District -4 dwelling units per re) within the Victoria Planned
Community Into 176 lots, located at the northeast corner of Milliken
Avenue and the Southern Pacific Railroad - APN 227-011-01, 02, 07 and 227-
0 1-01, OD, 09, 10.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the 'staff report.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steven Ford, representing the William Lyon, addressed the issue of the school
park sites and advised that a number of meetings had been held between the
William Lyon Company, City staff, School District representatives and members
of the community. He advised that a consensus had been reached on the
preliminary design for the sites and that exhibits would be presented to the
Pares Commission for their review at their next meeting. He further stated
that the time frame for completion of the schools was in very preliminary
stages; however, the park sites would be built as part of the infrastructure
improvements. He concurred with the Resolution and conditions of approval .
Douglas Lion, 12477 iron Bark,, Rancho Cucamonga, commented that the school
park sites should' be large enough to accommodate all of the residents who will
be using the sites when Victoria is fully developed.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion. Moved by Tolsoy, seconded by Emerick, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 13444 Motion carried by the following vote.
AYES® COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, EMERIC , CHITI'EA, MDNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
1 0.15 p.m. - Planning Commission d
o ass on Recessed
10,00 p.m. Planning Commission i Convened with all members present
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M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 130 - LEWIS HOMES - A total
evelopment residential subdivision of 24.19 acres within the Terra Vista
Planned Community (Medium-High Residential , 14- 4 dwelling units per acre)
into one lot for condominium purposes for 38 dwelling units, located on
the northwest corner of Milliken Avenue and Church Street - APN 10 -41
1ST
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Cook presented
a revised Resolution incorporating conditions of the Design Review Committee.
Chairman Mc Niel opened the public hearing.
John Melchr, representing the applicant, objected to the requirement to
construct Milliken Avenue from Base Line to Foothill Boulevard. He felt that
this requirement: was overreaching by the City and stated that only 35%of the
traffic would be generated by the residents of Terra Vista. He stated that
the attorney for Lewis Homes indicated that the requirement was excessive to
the point of being an illegal exaction. He further stated that the Map Act,
Section 66411, does not give the City the authority to require construction
ahead of the reasonable need of the facility. He concurred with the remaining
conditions of approval
There were no further comments,;therefore the public hearing was closed.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated he basically agreed with Mr.
Mlcher's recitation of the law. He suggested staff clarify the
reasonableness of the conditions
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, staged that the City Concil 's direction
was that large portions of streets constructed in Tierra Vista at one time. He
pointed out that Milliken Avenue has been one of the streets specifically
identified by the Council as a street that should be constructed as soon a
possible. He advised"" that the William Lyon Company to the north is building
long lengths of streets as part of their conditions of approval .
Russell Maguire, City Engineer, stated that if each individual project was
taken alone the measure of reasonableness is difficult to measure; however,
this is one of many projects that accumulatively affect the impact.
Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing to respond to further questions by
the Commission. He asked what kind of alternatives to the construction of
Milliken the applicant would propose.
Mr. Mel Cher advised that for the time being access to the project would be
provided by Elm and Church Streets He stated this would basically be one
point of access, however, would not be inconsistent considering` there will
only be 384 units.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that the Development Code clearly
states that two means of access must 'be provided,
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Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Emerick noted that Milliken is entirely within the Terra Vista
tract. Not only for the good of the project, but for the entire community he
felt Milliken should be constructed to relieve the traffic; congestion from
Haven Avenue. He stated that the Commission needed more facts on which to
base how reasonable the condition was.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed and stated the Commission should see the overall
picture and: needs to see what is developed and ghat has been approved of the
entire circulation problem He was concerned with traffic on Haven.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that primary and secondary access is very
important and agreed that looking at the total picture would be a lot more
meaningful:
Chairman McNiel supported a continuance of this matter to allow further
information to be presented.
M . Melcher recognized the Commissioners' concerns from a planning
perspective; however, he could not consent to a continuation of; the 'public
hearing. He asked that the Commission act to either approve or deny the
project. He indicated that should the Commission deny the project, it should
be stated that denial was based on the applicant' s objection to Engineering
Condition one
Them were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioners Emerick .Mated he °would not support deletion of the requirement
to construct Milliken, without further information.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred that not enough information had been provided
to address the issue of Milliken; therefore, rather than make a wrong decision
he supported staff° s conditioner
Motion:: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 13270, with the inclusion of Design Review conditions as
presented by staff in the revised Resolution. Motion carried by the following
vote®
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERIC , TOESTCIY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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N. TENTATIVE TRACT 134 REVISED PANNDN DEVELOPMENT - The development of
sing family detached homes on 11..6 acres of land in the Low-Medium
Residential District (4-8 dwelling units per acre) , located at the
northeast corner of Hermosa Avenue and 19th Street - APN D -191-1 , 23.
(In addition, applicant has requested a Tree Removal Permit to remove
Eucalyptus trees.)
Howard Fields, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. He advised that
Design Review condition 18 of the Resolution should be modified to read Lots
12, 13, 16, 63 and 67. Further, condition 20 should be modified to read a
minimum 13 foot corner sideyard setback as measured from the curb is required
for Lot 64 and a minimum 15 foot corner sideyard setback as measured from the
curb on Lot 51.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Petar Laden, representing the applicant stated concern with access to be
granted to the northern parcels. He requested that access through this tract
only be granted :after construction is completed on the northern parcels. H
was concerned with heavy ;equipment trucks damaging the decorative pavement
provided by Tract 13342 and noted that the repair of such pavement would be
the responsibility of the Homeowners' Association of Tract 13342. He
cormnented that the northern parcels during construction could gain access from
Finch Avenue,
Rarrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, advised that Finch' treet is within the
future freeway right-of-way. He stated that if the property to the north does
not develop before the freeway is constructed.., this would be the only access
to that property at that time. If the property was developed soon, it could
take construction access from Finch Avenue; however, if the freeway is under
construction access would not be possible.
Mr. Laden stated he would 'accept a condition that the northern parcels would
be required to use Finch Avenue for construction access prior to construction
of the freeway.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, advised that this would be a legitimate
condition to place on the northern parcels when they develop. He stated that
a condition on this tract would merely be an informational item.
Chairman McMiel asked if there would be a way to flag the northern parcels so
that this condition could be placed on development of those parcels.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, stated he could work with the developer
on a condition which would be to his satisfaction if the developer would be
willing to leave the condition as written to the satisfaction of the City
Planner, City Engineer, and City Attorney. He indicated that the proper
method might be a conditional dedication. '
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Commissioner Emerick was concerned with the use of cultured stone on the flood
walls along Hermosa. He was of the opinion that natural river rock should be
used and that high quality landscaping be installed at that location. He
suggested that Condition 7 of the Tract Map :'be modified to require use of
natural rock. He also suggested that natural river rock be used on the theme
wall , particularly at the intersection of Hermosa and lgth Street.
r. Laden expressed concern with the 15 gallon size trees required for rear
yard landscaping. He advised that the development complies with Title 24
requirements, and felt that methods other than planting of trees would
mitigate solar heat gain
r. Buller suggested that Planning Condition 19 be modified to include
language stating that other alternates could be used subject to review and
approval by the City planner.
r. Laden opposed the condition requiring planting of 15 gallon size trees as
landscaping buffer Tong the north property line. He additionally requested
that. Standard Condition E-16 be modified to require only those retaining walla
which are exposed to public viers be provided with decorative treatment. ;
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea commented on the applicant' s request relative to access
to the north and stated that the request; was reasonable. She suggested that,
staff work with the applicant to address this issue. Relative to the
landscaping :on the north property line, she stated that the view to the north
is a valid point. She suggested the 'tree ;planting in a windrow affect leaving
view corridors would be more appropriate.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the view might be blocked by the elevation o
the freeway ,at that point.
r. Huller suggested that condition 5 be modified to require one tree per lot.
Motion: Moved; by Chitiea, seconded by Emeric , to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 13342, with amendments to Design Review Condition 5 to modify
the requirement to one 15 gallon tree per lot; Condition 18 modified to read
lots 12, 13, 16, 63 and 67; Condition 19 modified to allow other solar
alternatives subject to review and approval of the City ;Planner; Condition 20
modified to require minimum 13 foot corner sideyard setbacks as measured from
the curb on Lot 54 and 15 Feet on Lot 51 as measured from the curb;
Engineering Condition 7 modified to require construction of the flood wall to
be natural rock, and, Standard Condition E-16 modified to require all
retaining walls exposed to public view to be provided with decorative
treatment. Motion carried b the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, EMERICk, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT® COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
0. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 84- AMENDED LAN BENTSEN MASTER PLAN -; MORSE
C NSULTING BROUP - An amendment to t e i�pr_o_v_ed Master Plan text
specifying a provision for a major open space area of 17000 square feet
within the western portion of Phase III on approximately 40 acres of land
located north of Highland Avenue, south side of Lemon Avenue, east of
Hagen Avenue.
Howard Fields, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel asked how fixed>the 1 7000 square footage was;
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the square -footage should exceed 7000
square feet. He suggested that the condition require a minimum of 7000 to
clarify the intent.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed.
Motion Moved by Emeri k, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving the amendment to Development Review 84-22. Motion carried by the
fallowing vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERIC , TOLSTOY, CH TIER, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
NEW BUSINESS
Q. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 87-0 ® DICKER- ARINOTON
- The---- si gn nevi ova of elevations and detailed si to p an for two proposed
satellite buildings totaling 13,800 square feet within a 15.3 acre
approved integrated shopping center, in a Neighborhood Commercial District
of the Terra Vista Planned Community, located at the northeast corner of
Base Line Road and Haven Avenue - APN ' 0 -80 - , 27.
Nancy Fong, `Associate:Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment
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Ji Polderi`ng, representing the applicant, concurred with the Resolution and
Conditions of approval . She requested clarification of Building and Safety
condition 2.
Brad Duller-, City Planner, advised that this condition was imposed to require
the applicant to provide plans on how the drainage for the two pads concludes
at one point.
There were no further public comments.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Development
Review 8 -D , Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: NI IE_A, TDLS TOY, ERICK, MCNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT:: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
R. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT" AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW - - WESTERN PROPERTIES
- The deve opment` of an office park consisting; of four -story buildings
totaling 250,000 square feet on 16.58 acres of land in the Office Park
District of the Terra Vista Planned Community, located at the northeast
corner of Haven Avenue and Town Center give APN 1011- 1- , 1 , and
Dg (Related to this project is Tree Removal Permit 8 - 0, requesting the
removal of three; groves of Eucalyptus trees (approximately SS trees)
within the site.
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment.
John Mel Cher, representing the ;applicant, gave a slide presentation for the
Commission's consideration. He stated that the architectural style provides
the transition and compatibility with the surrounding area.
There were no further comments.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that the Design Review Committee found the site
plan innovative and functional . The concern with the architecture was that
this is a very urban looking complex within a residential area; however, mass
and scale were of more concern than the architecture.
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated that when the original proposal came before the
Design Review Committee, it was one building with concepts for others. He
recalled that the original proposal was similar to a garden office park and
looked like an apartment house. He stated that the original Committee
comments were that the development should be a more formal architecture.
Commission Emerick agreed that a heritage type architecture Which mould blend
with the Virginia Dare Center would be more appropriate at this location.
Commissioner Chitiea pointed out that there are heritage architectural styles
which are different from that which exists with the Virginia Dare Center and
stated she would< refer to see another style for this site.
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed and further stated_ he would prefer to see a style
akin to that on the Virginia Dare Center rather than akin to the commercial
district south of Foothill Boulevard. He did' not think that the residential
tract across Church Street to the north should havemuch architectural hearing
on this project.`
Commissioner Chitiea stated that if the applicant is willing to work with the
Design Review Committee she felt the project could be be `brought to a paint at
which everyone would be satisfied.
John Melcher, representing; the applicant, asked that the Commission' s action
be to either approve or deny the project.
Chairman McNiel questioned the reason for this request.
Mr. Melcher stated that the developer has been working on this project for
many months and felt` than there were voices on the City Council who would
listen to an appeal .
Motion Mowed by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to direct
staff to present a Resolution of Denial for the Commission' s consideration o
the May 8, 1987 agenda...
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
S. CHAFFEY SCHOOL DISTRICT NEW HIGH SCHOOL SITE - Pursuant to State law
ucaflion o e 900 , the C affe Joint union High School District
requests the Planning Commission to comment on a proposed high school site
located on the northwest corner of future Victoria Park Lane and Rochester
Avenue.
Rubin Yu, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that a three party agreement between the
School District, William Lyon Company and the City would be required for road
and other public improvements.
Commissioner Tol stay hoped that the architects for the School District would
consider the surrounding neighborhood in their design. He commented that the
road redesign by the William Lyon Company in response to the School District's
needs worked out very well,
Commissioner Chitiea asked that the orientation of the elementary school and
traffic concerns be forwarded to the School District.
Chairman McNiel agreed that when the site plan; is presented to the State, they
should be made aware of the proximity of the elementary school .
Commissioner Ch tiea pointed out that the concerns are with traffic and
circulation as ' well as intimidation of the high school students on the
elementary students
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Steve Butters, representing the School District, stated the School District
wants to work with the City on the design of schools. He indicated that the
high school would be oriented to the, north and east and, would be at least 1/4
mile away from the elementary school
It was the consensus of the Commission to direct staff` to forward the
recommendations of the staff report to the School District.
T. RANCHO REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA AMENDMENT NO. 1 - Adoption of the
Resolution approving the aeWd Re eve opment Plan as it relates to its
conformity with the General Plan and review of the Draft Supplement 'to the
Environmental Impact Report for the Rancho Redevelopment Project Area
Amendment No. 1.
Linda Daniels, Senior Redevelopment Agency Analyst, presented the staff
report.
Chairman McNrel ;invited public comment. There were no comments.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to adopt
the Resolution approving the amendment to the Redevelopment Plan.
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H. FOOTHILL BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN STUDY - A presentation of the drat
Specific Plan for the Foothill Boulevard Corridor with a brief description
of the plan formulation process and its general policy direction. The
purpose of this presentation is to introduce the Planning Commission to
the status of the project and to establish further review, format and
public 'hearing schedule.
Otto kroutil , Senior Planner, gave an overview of the Specific Plan process.
Van Stevens, representing the project consultant, FORMA, gave an overview of
the Plan
Rick Gomez, representing FIRMA, gave an overview of the land use concepts.
. Kroutil stated that the purpose this evening was an introduction to the
Foothill Plan. He advised that advertised public hearing dates would be
established, at which time public testimony would be taken and an in depth
review of the Plan would be accomplished by the Commission.
V. PLANNING DIVISION WORK PROGRAM - Oral Report
Brad Buller;, City Planner, presented the report. The report was received and
Bled by the Commission
COMMISSION BUSINESS
W. SELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSIONER TO SERVE ON REVIEW PANEL FOR TRAILS
STUDY - Oral Report
Commissioner Chitiea was selected to serve on the review panel for the 'Trail
Study, with Commissioner Tolstoy selected as alternate.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion, Moved; by Tolstoy, seconded by Chiti a unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
: U a.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Bu er`
Deputy Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes - U April 8, 1987
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regul ar Meeti n
March 25,< 1987
Chairman David Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at
Liens Pare Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: F. David Barker, Suzanne Chitiea, Brine
eric `, Larry McNiel , Peter Tol stoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Bruce Cook, Associate Planner;
Clan Coleman, Senior Planner;; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner,
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer Ralph Hanson, Deputy
City Attorney, Russell Maguire, city Engineer; Debra Meier,
Assistant Planner; Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner; Janice
Reynolds, Planning Commission Secretary; Paul Rougeau,
Traffic Engineer; Chris Nest an, Assistant Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that a ;Utility Ondergrounding Planning
Commission rkhop would be held on April 29, 187 at Lions Park Community
Center beginning at 6:00 p.m. He also announced that staff would be
contacting the Commissioners to establish a hearing date for the Foothill
Boulevard Specific Plan.
PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION RESOLUTION TO E. DAVID BARKER
It was the consensus of the Commission that this item be mowed to the end of
the agenda.
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE-CHAIRMAN
It was the consensus of the Commission that this item be moved to the end of
the agenda
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNi el , to approve the Minutes of June
25, 1986, with an amendment by Chairman Barker to page 7, Motion carried 3-2,
with Commissioners Emeri ck: and -Tol stoy abstaining.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to approve
the Minutes of January 28, 187 with amendments by Commissioner Chitiea to
page g, and amendments by Chairman Barker to pages 14, 15, and 26.
Motion: Mowed by Chitiea, seconded by Mc Niel , unanimously carried,, to approve
the Minutes of February 1 , 1987 as presented.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY AMENDMENT 86-02
e reques o amen a errs Vista Planned
o uni y by establishing a Business Park Overlay Zone for areas
designated, as Office Park, Commercial and Mixed Use within the Planned
Community boundary.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TRACT 13057 ( ODIFICATION) - THE FIELDSTONE
-_'MoUi Tica tron o con i ,ens o approva perroug rron
oncr ng adjacent to deer Creek'for Tract 13057, an approved residential
subdivision of 22.55 acres within the Victoria Planned Community (Low-
Medium Residential , 4-6 dwelling units per acre`) into 147 lots, located at
the southeast corner of Highland Avenue and Deer Creek =- APN 202-211-1 ,
38. (Continued from February 25, 19 7
C. V O �
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 6-2 T VIEW AI
e eve o en o a , square oo nranu a uring ware oue
u ng addition to an existing 86,000 square foot building in the
General Industrial/Rail Served District; (Subarea 5) located at the
southeast corner of 7th Street and Center - APN 209-242-0 .
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D. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 12902 - NORDIC - Design review of building
e 'ewa ons an -pTo-f 51 ans f6F 29 P 6g1 a ily lots on 22.73 acres of land
in the Very Low Density Residential District less than 2 dwelling units
per acre), located on the west side of Hermosa Avenue, south of Almond
Street - AP 1-071-05, 06, 25 26, ; 5 a 36.
Planning Commission Minutes - - March 25, 1987
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel;, unanimously carried, to adopt
the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Barker announced that the following items were being recommended for
continuance, therefore would be heard out of agenda order.
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 86-0€1 (AMENDED) - SPETNAGEL -
reques waive aim e r r' erg e r an
extendable radio antenna to al l owwr an existing antenna to ' e extended to 72
feet on a .47 acre parcel in the Very Low Residential District (less than
dwelling units per acre) located at 5327 Carol Avenue - APN 10b1-111-1g.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested that this item be continued to
the Planning Commission meeting of April 8, 1987. He stated that he had
spoken to Mr. Spetnagel 's attorney earlier in the week and, had advised him
that the Commission would be continuing the item in order to allow the City
Attorneys the opportunity to review case law.
Chairman Barker ;opened the public hearing'.
Mr. Spetnagel consented to the continuance to allow him the opportunity to
have legal 'counsel present.
Motion: Moved by Emerik, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Environmental
Assessment and Variance 86-08 to the Planning Commission meeting of April B,
1987. - Motion carried 4-1, with Commissioner Chitiea voting no.
M. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 1 393 EITH COMPANY -
su v si on o . acres o an n o paroe s n n ns r ark
District (Subarea 16), located at the northwest corner of Archibald Avenue
and 4th Street - APN 10 062-13, 11 02, 26, 33, 32. (Related File: D
BC- 7)
0. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 37 - KEITH COMP -
e eve o en o S Xa—s-te—r--PTa—n---fo—r--a ---T97J7acre Un ua r a park
consisting of 33 lots in the Industrial Park District - (Subarea 16),
located at the northwest quadrant of 4th Street and Archibald Avenue - APN
10-06 -0 , 11, 13, 26, 32 and 33. (,Related File. PM 10393)
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
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otion: Moved by Chit ea, seconded by M Niel , unanimously carried, to
continue the public gearing for Environmental Assessment and Tentative Parcel
Map 10393 and continue New Business item Environmental. Assessment and
Development Review B - 7 to April B 1987.
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 87-02A - CITY CP
H456R t6 aFren e CiRUIRM Mffiin o e
enera an.
Paul Rougeau, Traffic Engineer, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed.
Motion; Moved, by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
recoinmend issuance of a Negative Declaration and adoption of the Resolution
approving Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 87-02A to the
City Council . Motion carried by the following vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA, TCLSTOY, BARKER, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ®carried
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESS14ENT AND GENERALPLAN AMENDMENT 6-0 - CITY CE
e�ue o amen a an se Rifit o Efie Gen era
an ow- edium Density Residential d4-8 dwelling units/acre to Low
Density Residential (2-4 dwelling units/acre) and/or Very ;Low Density
Residential (less than 2 dwelling units/acre) for 68 acres of land located
at the southwest corner of Wilson if extended) and Milliken (if extended)
AP : 201-191-11, 17. (Continued from February 25, 1987)
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT 6-05 - CITY
reques o amen a DiRlopment Distr-fid ap r
oo on roll and "L " (Low-Medium ensity Residential - -
dwelling units/acre)) to 'T' (Low Density Residential - -4 dwelling
units/acre) and/or "VL" (Very Low Density Residential _ less ; than 2
dwelling units/acre) for 68 acres of land located at the southwest corner
of Wilson of extended) and.. Milliken if extended) - AP 2 1-191- 1, 17.
Cynthia Kinser, _Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
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Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
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Michael Vairin, 8480; btic , Rancho Cucamonga, advised that he; was representing
the applicant for Tentative Tract 13542, which was proposed to be developed on
this site and was, being heard on this evening's agendas Mr. Yai ri n gave an
overview of the product type and site plan for Tentative Tract 13542 and
supported staff" s recommendation to amend this site to Low Density
Residential.
There were no farther comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick stated that he felt comfortable with the project designed
by the Deer Creek. Company and felt the concerns of the Commission had been
addressed. He supported the Low Density designation.
Commissioners Tolstoy and McN el supported the Low Density designation and
stated they were happy with the proposed Deer Creek project.
Commissioner Chitiea ;supported the Very Low designation. She advised that all
tracts north of Banyan were to be minimum half-acre equestrian lots;
therefore, she felt more comfortable with the Very Low designation.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by M c� Niel , to recommend to the City
Council the issuance of a Negative Declaration and adoption of the Resolution
approving the Low Density Residential designation (2-4 dwelling units/acre)
for Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment _ 8 -00. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS EMERICK, MCNIEL, BARKER, TOLSTOY
ROES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by McNiel , to recommend to the City
Council the issuance of a Negative Declaration and adoption of the Resolution
approving the "L" (Low Density - 2-4 dwelling units/acre) designation for
Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 86- S. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS EMERICK, MC IEL, BARKER, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA
ABSENT.* COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13542 - DEER CREEK - A custom
o su v on acres o and in the
Low Medium Density Residential District l -8 dwelling units per acre),
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located east of Chaffey College between Wilson Avenue and Banyan Street
APN 201-191-17 and a portion of 1.-1 1. .
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Michael Val ri n, representing the applicant, gave an overview of the project.
e stated that the applicant was not particularly pleased with the final
street configuration, however, understood the it 's concern with: high speeds
coming dower the street grades. Therefore, the applicant consented to the
present configuration. He requested that Planning Division condition 3 be
modified to reflect that corner side yard fencing (decorative masonry block)
shall be required only on Canistel Street. He also requested that the
Planning Condition S be modified to reflect that buffering be required along
the natural biological area between the residences along the west property
line and Chaffey College. He further requested Engineering Standard Condition
L-2 be modified to require 40 total feet of right-of-way dedication on Wilson.
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, suggested that 44 total feet be stricken
from the condition and "asshown" substituted.
Commissioner Cmerick asked if the landscaping along the west property line j
wouldbe on the applicant's property or that of Chaffey College.
r. Vairin indicated that the landscaping would be on the adjacent college
property. He advised that the landscaping was being designed to tie into the
Coll ege`s irrigation system. Further, that the applicant would he doing the
design work and; installation of the landscaping and irrigation. Mr. Vairl
advised that he had a letter from Chaffey College in, which they requested
protection of their natural biological area.., which is approximately 700 feet.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt that the condition requiring the landscaping buffer
between the residences and the College should remain, :with an understanding
that the College could submit a letter to the City stating that they would
rather not; have the 'landscaping. He pointed out that the City was not only
protecting the interest of the College, but the interest of the future
residents as well .
Commissioner Chitiea suggested that the landscaping of the lower areas be
provided by the developer in the back yams.
r. Vairin commented that ;planting trees and ,yards does not always, insure that
they will stay there since homeowners have different ideas of how they would
like to design their backyards.and He agreed with Commissioner Tol stay+ that the
applicant be allowed to work with the College on the issue.
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Commissioner Emerick asked staff to comment on the applicant's request to only
require corner side yard fencing along Canistel .
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that on all recent tracts of this size it
has been the policy ;of the Commission to require corner side yard fencing on
all corner lots.
r. Vairin stated that on the interior the applicant has; found that the people
who boy those lots normally are buying them for the ability to have better
access to the rear yard for landscaping and pools. The applicant found in the
past when there are fences or walls, people would either take them down or put
holes in them to gain that access. He pointed out that the repair is often
done badly since a different block or mortar might be used.
Jim Barton, 5552 Canistel, Rancho Cucamonga, addressed the Commission as a
resident and as a member of Chaffey College Board of Trustees. As a Trustee,
Mr. Barton thanked the Deer Creek Company for meeting with the College to
address concerns and issues, He concurred with Commissioner Tolstoy's
recommendation to allow the applicant the; opportunity to work with the College
on the landscape buffer. As a resident, he supported the developer's request
to eliminate the cornier side yard fencing.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chi ti ea felt that Planning Condition 3 regarding side yard
fencing should remain as proposed by staff. She stated that modification or
removal of the condition would be inconsistent with past Planning Commission
policy. She supported giving the applicant the flexibility to work with the
College on the landscape ,buffer, however, she indicated that the ;buffer
should be installed, whether the 'resultant solution is on the College's
property or on the private property.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated it would be to the advantage of both Chaffey
College and future residents to have a landscape buffer the entire distance
between the two properties. He strongly felt there should be a planted
landscape buffer as well as a gall .
Commissioner McNiel addressed the corner side yard fencing and stated if a
theme were being created for Canistel , be could see no `reason why that theme
should not continue along a parallel street on the opposite side of the
tract. We could not support modification of the condition as requested by the
applicant.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded Chit e , to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Tentative Tract 1 with a modification
to Engineering Standard Condition L-2 to reflect right-of-way dedication as
shown for Wilson Avenue. Motion carried by the following vote
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
. dI E L.. V {# p(Ey T4
6:. 1p,y, {wp.gy+.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13316 - FRIEDMAN HOMES -
551 rest en a eve oilmen of 123 s ng ar#r s acres of
land in the Very Low Density Residential District less than$2 dwelling
units per acre), located at the northeast corner of Archibald Avenue and
Earrari Avenue - APN 241- 71-14 37, and 45.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Murphy
advised that Resolution condition 8a should be modified to read the first pole
south of the north tract boundary. Further, that Standard Condition L-2
should be modified to reflect 28 feet on Earrari Street.`
Chairman Barker advised that the Planning Commission was in receipt of letters
which had not been included in the staff ;report from Dorothy Reese, Dr. Melvin
kornblatt, Mr. & Mrs. Roger Hudlow, Mr. & Mrs. Gary Elinard, and Mr. & Mrs.
Allen Jones which expressed various concerns including homes backing onto
Almond, keeping of horses, landscaping requirements, and street improvements
on Almond. He then opened the public hearing.
Martin n Dowd, representing ';the applicant, gave an overview of the project. He
.stated that the individuals expressing concerns were not actually in
opposition to the project but were asking for modifications or changes over
which the developer had no control , such as code enforcement and the keeping
of horses. He stated that the provision for equestrian trails and landscaping
standards were requirements by the City. He referred to Planning; Condition 2
of the Resolution relative to relocating lot 59 twelve feet to the north and
requested that this condition only be required if determined feasible by the
Building Official due to the location of the lot to an earthquake fault
zone. He additionally addressed condition 10 relative to the preservation of
the existing Oak tree on Lot 44 and requested that the construction barrier be
required prior to issuance of grading or building permits and prior to
commencement of work in order to avoid delays. He requested that condition 12
be modified to reflect landscaping of the debris basin outside rather than
inside
s e the slope of the debris basin. He requested; that Engineering cdi t7 on
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4 requiring the improvement of Almond Street be deleted. He was of the
opinion that the adjacent developer should be required to install this street
improvement. He referred to Engineering Condition S relative to street grades
and advised that he would like an understanding that there is one street
within the tract at a slope of approximately 13.7 percent. Rela ive to
Engineering Condition fi concerning, the vacation of Chestnut Street he' stated
that this request for vacation had been submitted to the Department of Water
and Power and the developer had received their approval to vacate Chestnut on
the Department's behalf. He noted that Chestnut Street is off the project's
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property. Since this vacation would have no impact on this tract, he
requested that the condition be modified to reflect prior to issuance of any
occupancy permits rather than recordation of the map. Relative to Engineering
Condition 8 concerning utility undergrounding, he requested a modification to
require undergrounding from the first pole north of Carrari Street rather than
the south side. He further suggested the City consider a capital improvement
project to help defray the cost of undergrounding utilities on Archibald. If
this assistance was not granted, he request that all in-lieu, fees be deleted
for undergrounding on Almond. He requested that Standard Condition C-4 be
deleted since the Design Review for the project indicated that no further
architectural amenities needed to be added to the elevations. He asked when
the City would take over maintenance of the debris basin.
Russell Maguire, City Engineer, advised that the basin would be inspected
after completion and then the work would go through a 30-day establishment
period. At that point, the City would take over maintenance; however, the
developer would have a one year maintenance bond against material , workmanship
and qual ity. If a problem arises in any of these areas, the bond would be
called.
Mr. Dowd referred to Standard Condition G-2 relative to emergency access and
stated he felt the existing Almond Avenue and its alignment would serve to
meet this condition. He requested that the condition requiring sidewalks
either be deleted or that the developer be required to install sidewalks only
on one side.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, agreed that the sidewalks should only be
on one side of the interior.
Mr. Dowd suggested that the City contribute to the construction of the debris
basin.
Chairman Barker asked Engineering staff to respond to Mr. Dowd's request to
appeal the construction of Almond Street, and the comment that one street
within the tract is at a 13.7 percent slope.
Mr. Hanson responded that a 'tract this size should provide some pavement over
to Hermosa to finish off Almond. He additionally felt it would be important
to provide this street for the residences on the north side. Be felt
reimbursement would be appropriate for the cost of any permanent improvements
this developer constructs. Relative to the street slope, he responded that
the grading had not been looked at in a great deal of detail and at this time
preferred that the condition vernaln as written since the City standard is 12
percent.
Chairman Barker asked staff' s response to substituting occupancy permits for
recordation.
Mr. Hanson replied that this would be acceptable to staff.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that it would be possible to landscape the
inside of the slopes of the debris basin to a certain level so that there
would be some buffer around the retention' basin.
Russell Maguire commented that the ;debris basin is an upstream basin, which
meant that all storms would go through that basin. he explained that staff
expects debris placement and a debris removal cycle annually. He advised that
e would be comfortable with the condition reading landscaping to the high
water mark and that particularly the upper slope should contain certain levels
of landscaping on the inside
Chairman Barker asked for staff's comment relative to utility undergrounding
arrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, commented that the current Planning
Commission policy states that a developer should underground utilities to the
first pole offsite or reconstruct a new pole at the project boundary. The
existing pole in this case is a little more than S feet. He recommended that
under rounding stop at 20feet south, versus the S feet. Relative to Carrari
Street, he commented that the Planning Commission eso ution requiring
underrounding specifically states that a project should extend the
underg'rounding across an adjacent .street. Relative to reimbursement by the
City for undergrounding on Archibald, he advised that the policy is that
reimbursement only comes from other development, which in this case that
property has already been developed. He stated that the Planning Commission
does not have the authority to commit City funds to this type of issue. The
option to not contribute tin-lieu fees for Almond Street in the event that the
City does not reimburse for Archibald, he Mated has not been the City's
policy.
Chairman Barker advised that the public` hearing was still open and invited
public comment.
Brad McCall , 9795 Carrari', representing residents of Carrari Street, stated
they did not object to development of the tract by Friedman Homes. However,
he expressed concern' with the proposed hones backing' Carrari Street. He
requested code enforcement for CC&R's enabling the City to notify residents
not complying with CC&R's of violations and if violations are not corrected
within a certain amount of time, the residents would either be 'billed or 'a
lien placed on the property. He additionally requested that the residents of
Carrari take part in the design of the landscaping and slump stone wall
proposed for the north side of Carrari . He asked that occupancy not be
granted until these items were completed to the satisfaction of the existing
residents.
Chairman Barker asked for a recommendation from staff regarding enforcement of
CCU 's.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the City s normal code enforcement
procedures would insure property maintenance. He pointed out that under the
current code enforcement procedures, if a violation is not corrected it
becomes a misdemeanor and is handled through the court system. He suggested a
possible solution would be to increase the trail area thus increasing the
landscaping area. He believed there is sufficient area within the 0-foot
easement to provide a landscaping which would buffer visibility to the rear
yards.
William Reese, 4888 Archibald,: opposed the keeping of horses in the proposed
tract.
Chairman darker advised that this tract is within the Equestrian Overlay
District which is governed by an ordinance of the City Council . He explained
the appeal process to Mr. `Reese.
d Pagliochini, 5049 Jadeite,, stated that he was notified of this public
hearing; however, he was not notified of the neighborhood meeting held by the
developer. His concern was blockage of his view to the east by the proposed
two story homes and variety of trees being placed on Archibald Avenue, He
also objected to the keeping of horses in the tract.
r. Matsumo, 4994 Klusman, objected to the rear yards of homes facing the
front yards of the existing homes on Carrari . He felt that a precedent might
be set by approval of this design.
Bob White, 4947 Mize, stated he was not informed; of the developer's
neighborhood meeting until after the meeting was held.
Mr. Murphy explained that the City is not required by Mate law to give the 10
day notification which is required for, public hearings for a neighborhood
meeting. He advis
ed used that the neighborhood meeting is a courtesy meeting held
by the developer, at the City's suggestion, at which the developer attempts to
address concerns early in the process. Mr. Murphy advised that the notices
for the March 17th meeting were mailed to the residents on March 12, 1987.
Alan Jones, 1001E Almond, stated that he and his neighbors were first notified
of the tract development approximately one year ago and had attended several
meetings with the developer in that one year time frame. He and his neighbors
supported development of the tract.
,lack Pickering, Hidden Farm Road resident, stated he was not contacted
regarding the neighborhood meeting.
r. Dowd responded to the public comments and asked that the tract; not be held
up while the City debated the community issue of allowing homes in this
tract.' He 'stated that the two story homes would only block a slight degree of
view, since the proposed heights were actually peak heights. He advised that
he contacted every single property owner that is directly affected by this
tract.
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There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Fmer ck commented on the code enforcement of &R's and stated
that Mr. McCall 's point is well taken. However, he felt that violations could
be handled by private code enforcement where criminal sanctions are possible.
Chairman Barker stated that he would like clarification of the existing
language regarding &R's
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, advised that the ity's current Condition
language would allow the City to take advantage of current legislation
regarding code enforcement of &R's if that legislation is passed.
Chairman Barker asked for comment regarding the request for the Carrari Street
residents to take part in the design of the wall and landscaping.
Commissioner Emerick agreed that appropriate- landscaping in addition to the
wall would serve an adequate buffer. He suggested that the City Planner be
directed to review and approve the plan, after which he would notify the
arrari Street residents of his decision. If the residents do not concur with
the City Planner's approval , they could ;appeal this decision to the Planning
Commission.
o isiover Mciel asked if the area could be increased to 25 feet as opposed
to 20 feet.
r. Dowd stated that it would be possible to increase the setback to 25 feet
and added this might further mitigate the concerns of the Carrari residents.
He agreed to this increase as long as it does not affect the net gross lot
area.
r. Buller stated he would suggest a, modification to the landscaping condition
to state that view corridors will be provided. He poi need out that the
applicant .Mated that the first 4 houses would be model homes, which will have
rear ,hard landscaping.
Chairman Barker asked for discussion concerning the blockage of- view-, to the
east
Commissioner Emerick commented that he felt there are tradeoffs in that a one
story house would require more grading. He pointed out that the trees would
soften the vier of houses for those residents who do look up towards the
mountains. ''
Commissioner Chitlea appreciated the residents' concerns. However, she stated
that anyone who buys on a hillside with adjacent vacant land must realize that
eventually that land will be developed and the view may be lost. She felt the
City and Friedman Homes has made an admirable attempt to address this issue.
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Chairman arker asked for discussion regarding the concern of backs of homes
.facing fronts of the existing homes on Carrari .
Commissioner McNi el stated he was -inclined to agree with the residents and
stated that what the Commission was dealing ;with is concessions versus good
planning. He stated that under every circumstance that it makes no sense and
felt it wool d be a mistake.
Commissioner Emerick pointed out that there would be two different
architectural styles facing each other by locating the fronts of these homes
toward Carrari . He questioned how integrated a street would be under this
approach as opposed to doing a good job with landscaping as a buffer.
Commissioner Chi ti ea stated she agreed with Commissioner McNiel and did not
like to see the rear yards fading existing streets. She preferred a design
with street compatibility;and felt design could be a mitigating factor."
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that one reason the tract is laid out as ro osed
p p
is because of severe slope and _grading constraints.
' r. Dowd advised that to reverse the design to face the homes on Carrari would
require a great deal of grading
Commissioner cNi el stated his intent was not to redesign the tract at this
point. He commended the applicant and staff for taking the initiative to talk
to a great many people who don't get taped to under normal tract development,
much less have their input considered. His point was that as a matter of good
versus bad planning, this might have been caught at an earlier stage when
something different could have been done.
Commissioner Tolstoy; felt it was important to point out :that the biggest issue
associated with this tract has always been grading. He advised that the
solution now proposed was the best alternative. He concurred that better
planning might, be that the houses on Carrari' face each other. However, if
that would have occurred, there would have been a completely different grading
plan with considerably more grading. He stated that the City had stressed to
the developer from the beginning that grading should be kept at a minimum.
The requests raised by the applicant re,lative to`the conditions of approval
were agreed to as follows. It was the consensus of the Commission to retain
Standard Condition relative to architectural amenities to side and rear
elevations. Additionally, Engineering Condition a relative to utility
undergrounding was retained in its entirety. Engineering Condition 4 relative
to the improvement of Almond was retained
Motion: Moved by McNiel , ;seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the <Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Tentative
Tract 13316 with the following amendments: An additional -foot landscape
easement required along the south side of Lots 18; Planning Division
Condition 3 amended to reflect review by the City Planner of the landscape
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plan for the block wall and landscaping along the south property line of Lots
1-8, with view corridors to the north to be provided; relocation of, Lot 59
required if feasible as determined by the Building Official ; Engineering
Condition 8a modified to reflect the first pole south of the north tract
boundary, as proposed by 'staff; Standard Condition L-2 amended to require 28
feet on Earrari , as proposed by staff; Planning Condition 12 modified to
require landscape and irrigation of the debris basin along the outside and
inside slopes above the high water ark; and Planning Division Condition
modified to require Carrari Street improvements prig to issuance of occupancy
permits. The City Planner was directed to notify the residents of Carrari
Street of his decision regarding the landscaping and wall treatment along Lots
1- , The residents will have a ten day period in which to appeal this
decision. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: NIEL, TOL TOY, BARKER, CHITIEA, EMERICK
CIE. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
BET: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
0:20 p.m. - Planning Commission Recessed
1 :40 p.m. - Planning Commission Reconvened with all members present
J. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PE IT 84- 1 TA LOMA CHRI TIAN
regoe o _c_o__nverFt an existing , square oo sl ng e amp ,y
yes ence to an office for the Alta Loma Christian Church on B acres of
land in the Low Residential District (less than 2 dwwdlling units per acre)
located on the vast side of Sapphire, across from Orange - APN 10 - -
. (Continued from January 28, 1987
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Glen Cadow, representing the church, stated he believed all requirements had
been met. He advised that the irrigation would be dons manually by use of a
water hose,
Brad Buller, Litt' Planner, advised that staff would recommend that this method
of irrigation be monitored for a while before it would be considered an
acceptable solution. If the method proved to be unacceptable, staff would
recommend that the Conditional Use Permit for the church be brought before the
Commission for modification or revocation.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Chi ti ea questioned how much staff time could be committed to a
monitor the project,
r. Buller advised that routine inspections would be made by code
enforcement.
Commissioner McNiel state the extension should be issued. However, if the
area is not maintained upon the first inspection, it would come back to the
Commission 'and the Conditional Use Permit will be pulled until the matter is
corrected.
`r. Buller stated that staff would take that action and then follow the steps
for revocation process,
Chairman Barker stated that he would strongly recommend if the method proposed
by the applicant fails, :the Commission pull the Conditional Use Permit an
require that a professionally designed system be installed*
Motion: Moved by ' cNi el , seconded by Tol stay, to 'adopt the Resolution
approving the Time Extension for Conditional Use Permit 844-21, Staff was
directed to prepare a letter to the applicant advising them that if the method
of irrigation and reseeding is not successful, the Conditional use permit for
the church will be scheduled for revocation. Motion carried by the following
vote.
AYES, COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLSTC , BARKER, CH TIEA, EMERICK
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: C OMM ISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Chairman Barker advised that he did not receive his copy of this staff report
in time to review it; therefore, advised that he would step down from the
podium on this issue.
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 1 279 - WILLIAM LYCN COMPANY
- A reP en rac su v s on o acres n o o s o crew e
planning areas for the future development of the Vineyards North Village
within the Victoria Planned Community, generally located north of Southern
Pacific Railroad, south of Highland, west of Day Creek & east of Milliken
-:APN 227-0 - 1, 02, CS, 04, 05, 06, & 07, 227 ► 81 01, 040 08, ag, 10,
11, & 227-0 1- 6
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Co issioner Chitiea asked at which point can the City require that prior to
any further approvals, Victorian Lakes must be developed.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that one way would be through an
amendment to the Planned Community text that establishes a phasing schedule
for development.;
Commissioner Fmerick; shared the concern and advised that during a recent
Design Review meeting the developer had stated there are some engineering
concerns relative to the improvement of Day Creek Channel .
Commissioner Chitiea stated she would like more specific information and would
also like to the the working drawings and design already in place providing
some guarantee that in fact when the improvements to Day Creek are completed,
the Lakes will be developed
r. Buller advised that the City recently received a letter from the developer
indicating that in thirty; days the City would be seeing plans for the Lake.
e suggested the Commission direct staff to prepare a status report on the
Lakes for an upcoming agenda. He advised that at that point, the Commission
could determine if staff should proceed with an amendment to the planned
community text.
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Steven Ford, representing the William Von Company, stated concurrence with
the Resolution and conditions of approval . He clarified that on Engineering
Condition 16 the developer considered all costs to include the cost of
condemnation as well as the cost of the street hardscaping and landscaping and
that it doesn't particularly relate to the ' portion of Victoria Park Lade
adjacent to the proposed high school site. He advised that the developer had
been working on concepts for an area development plan for the Lakes portion of
Victoria from Base Line south to Miller, which would include the actual bodies
of water. He additionally Mated the developer had been doing extensive
planning and marketing surveys to determine how best to proceed on that
property as early as possible. He stated there are some physical constraints
to the site. He indicated there may be potential options to the actual
engineering design of the site that may offer the opportunity to proceed
without the total completion of the ultimate Day Creek improvements. He
agreed' to work with staff to provide a status report to the Commission on the
Lakes development.
There were no further convents, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Comissioner Chitiea stated that the redesign of the parkway was more
attractive and appropriate.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 13279. Motion carried by the following vote
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICK, CHITIEA, MICNIEL, TOLSTOY
DOES: CO ISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
ABSTAIN. CO ISSIONERS: BARKER
11: 0 p.m. - Planning Commission Recessed
11:40 p.m, - Planning Commission Reconvened with all members present
Chairman Barker advised that the following items were related and would be
beard concurrently by the Commission.
L. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 87-0 - D CKK DEVELOPMENT -
reques o Fe duce num er o par ing spaces re451re , the side yard
setback area, and the front yard setback and to exceed the height
limitation for a proposed 11,000 square foot office building at 9113
Foothill Boulevard in an Office Professional District located on the south
side of Foothill Boulevard crest of Hellman Avenue and east of Vineyard
Avenue. Tree Removal Permit B 1 requesting the removal of B mature
Chestnut trees, 4 Liquidambars & 4 Modesto Ash trees - APN OB- 1-0 .
(Related File: DR 86-46). ,
N. tNVI,RONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOR 86- 6 - DEC K
propose o cons ruc an , sq. o ice ui iAg
Ili Too� i Il Boulevard in the Office Professional District located on the
south side of Foothill Boulevard, west of Hellman and east of Vineyard -
APN 0 - 41-0 . Associated with this proposal- is Tree Removal Permit 87-
1 requesting the removal of two ) `mature Chestnut trees, 4`Liquidambr
trees, and 4 Modesto Ash trees.
Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Dan Richards, represent the applicant, gave an overview of the project and
urged the Commission's approval . He advised that parking for the projecthad
been based on the net rather than Dross floor area.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner McNiel stated that this is the kind of development that the City
is looking for on Foothill Boulevard. He stated his real concern with the
project was the parking.
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated that one of the most important problems associated
with this outparcel is trying to get it to fit in with the surrounding area
.
He felt that the architecture fits in with the apartment complexes on both
sides of the project and had no problem with the side yard setback, front yard
setback or the building height. However, the major concern was parking..
Chairman Barker stated that he had no problems with the setbacks or building
height and agreed that parking was the major issue. He felt that the property
would police itself and that uses that would require a lot of parking would
not lease in the building. Overall , he liked the product and felt it was a
good use of an odd shaped piece of property.
Commissioner Chitiea' stated that the 45 foot landscaping required by the
Foothill Interim Policies is mostly directed toward the consolidation of
smaller lots to encourage master planning, which is not possible with this
parcel . She felt if the developer was sensitive to the design of the Foothill
Plan as proposed by Forma [design Consultants, that the landscaping requirement
might be mitigated. She stated in terms of mass, scale and architectural
design this project; fits in well with its location and proximity to the
apartments. She did not thine that scaling back the building to meet the
parking requirements would solve any major parking problems and felt that
Chairman Barker was correct that the building would police itself.;
Commissioner Emerick saw the parking being a problem because it creates a
hidden trap for vehicles entering the parking lot and not being able to find a
parking space. He felt the lobby area needed to be calculated for parkin
purposes because the developer may utilize the space at a later time or
utilize it for a' waiting area.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated one option would be tuck under parking which
would provide four additional parking spaces,
. Richards stated he would prefer to develop the project as proposed;
however, if it Leant denial of the project, he would agree to work with staff
on this issue.
Motion: Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Development Review 86-46 with a modification that tuck under parking is to be
provided. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: E ERICk, CHITIEA, BARKER, MCNIEL, TCt TOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
Staff was directed to prepare a Resolution approving Variance 8 -02 for the
Planning Commission's consideration on April 8, 1987.
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HEIR BUSINESS
P. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 86-40 - CHC ARCHITECT INC. The development of a 4,000
aqua oo an aci is Iona Rank) on 0.68 acres 4f land
within an approved 15.3 acre shopping center in the Neighborhood
Commercial District of the Term Vista Planned Community, located at the
northeast corner;of Rase Line Road and Haven Avenue ® APN 0 -801- S, 26.
Clancy Fong Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that the Design Review Committee did net review
the consistency of the tower with the rest of the center. She suggested that
a condition be gadded to require consistency of the tower design with the rest
f the center.
Chairman Barker invited public comment.
Henry Savario, representing Security Pacific Rank, addressed conditions 3 and
of the Resolution, He stated that the building is much smaller scale than
the rest of the center and felt because of the Coale a smaller type rafter
would be more appropriate. He requested use of an 48 rafter. He
additionally stated that if the curvilinear gable was lowered it would result
in exposing the parapets and mechanical equipment, and requested that the
condition be deleted. He agreed with designing the tower to be consistent
with the rest of the center; however, felt the design should be sensitive to
the scale of the proposed project.
Steve Yaeger, representing the applicant, advised that he would like the
flexibility to work with staff on the issue of the gables.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the 6X1O rafter was considered by the Design
Review Committee to be in scale with the building. He asked if the reduction
to U8 as requested by the applicant would be acceptable.
Commissioner Chitiea felt the rafters should not be scaled down and should
match the rest of the center,
r. Buller suggested that the rafters and the lowering of the gables go back
to Design Review on the Consent Calendar.
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Motion: Moved by Chi ti ea, seconded by McNiel ,_ to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Development
Review 86-40, with modifications to include requiring the wood rafters and
curvilinear gables to be submitted to the Design Review Committee for review,
and addition of a condition that the tower element is to be consistent with
the existing center. Motion carried ed b the following owi n vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA CNIEL, BARKER, EMERICK, TOLS OY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: N -carried
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -42 - LEFF - The
eve o en o n us multi-tenant bui o ing 150,754
square feet on 9.15 acres of land in the Industrial Park District (Subarea
7) located on the north side of Arrow Highway between White Oak and Maple
Streets - APN 20 -351.60, 51, 57-70.
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report,
Chairman Darker invited public comment.
David Leff, applicant, concurred with the Resolution and conditions of
approval
There were no further public comments.
Motion: Moved by Chi`tiea, seconded by Mc Niel , to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Development
Review 85-42. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, BARKER, EMERICK, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
P. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 85-45 - A review
The revi
o a ve s er an o acres 'an eve b en o lots and
of the Master Plan. Lot 2 consisting of a 41,500 square foot industrial
building on 2.36 acres and Lot 3 consisting of a 51,250 square foot
industrial building on 2.77 acres of land all within the Industrial Park
District (Subaru 12), located on the east side of Pittsburgh Avenue south
of Sth Street - APN 2 9-26 -3, 4#
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Auft Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker invited public comment.
John Richards, representing the applicant, stated concurrence with the
Resolution and conditions of approval. He requested an understanding that
because they were agreeing to extend the rear property line beyond what they
had anticipated, and requested the opportunity to slightly adjust the building
sizes.
Commissioner McNiel stated that he felt the applicant should be able to add to
the length of the buildings which would be subject to review of the City
Planner.
Ban McDavid, representing the applicant, <gave an overview of the architecture
and landscaping.
There were no further public comments.
Motion; Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel , to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Development
Review 86-45. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY NIEL, BARKER, CHITIEA, EMERICK
NOES,: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
S. PRELIMINARY REVIEW 86-76 - GREEN VIEW ESTATES - A consistency determination
6etweenthe Fo_o_thT1rT_(;orr1;(for IMFM '175 es and a proposed development
of 142 townhome units on 11.86 acres of land in the Medium Residential
District (8-14 du/ac) located at the southeast corner of Foothill
Boulevard and Baker Avenue - APN 207-201-30 & 41,43.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chi tiea commented that one good aspect of the project proposal is
that it has access off of Baker instead of Foothill , which she felt was
important for this site.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by M,cNiel , unanimously carried, to
determine Preliminary Review 86-76 consistent with the Foothill Interim
Policies.
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
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T. INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENTS - SUBAREA 8
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
It was the consensus of the Commission that this item be brought back to the
Planning Commission on April 22, 1987.
U. PRESENTATION OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA VIDEO - Oral Report
Due to the lateness of the hour, the Commission deferred presentation of the
Rancho Cucamonga video to a later agenda.
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN
Motion: Moved by Barker, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to elect
Larry McNiel Chairman of the Planning Commission.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to elect
Suzanne Chitiea Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission.
PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION RESOLUTION TO DAVID BARKER
This item was deferred to the Planning Commission meeting of April 22, 1987.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
1:2U a.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
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Respectfully submi
Brad Buller'
Deputy Secretary
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MINUTES OF
PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP
THURSDAY FEBRUARY 26,; 1987 C,CC P.M.
Neighborhood Center
991 Arrow
Rancho Cucamonga
Vice Chairman Larry McNiel called the workshop,meeting of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at- C:UU p.m.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Larry McNiel, Suzanne Chitiea Bruce
Emerick, Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: David Barker
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner, Dan Coleman, Senior
Planner; Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner; Bruce Cook,
Associate Planner; Howard Fields, Assistant Planner;
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, Chris Westman,
Assistant Planner.
A. ' TERRA VISTA MULTIPLE FAMILY ARCHITECTURE
A review Of a l existing, approved or proposed apartment,
condominium or townhome projects relative to their architectural
design similarities
Brad Buller, City Planner, explained the purpose of the workshop.
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Stan Bel and Ernie Corrill representing Lewis Homes and. Carl
Lagoni, representing Aram Bassen.an & Associates, presented an
overview of the differe
nces in archi
tectural
c ural styles and features of
the various multi-family projects within Terra. Vista..
Mr. Bell and 'r. Oorrill explained that Luis Homes ;targets each
project to a specific rental market and therefore the building
architecture is to a great extent a function of rents. The goal of
Lewis Homes is to provide for a range of housing affordability.
Commissioner Emerick stated that the grid site plan layout affects
the streetscape and creates a repetitive appearance.
Mr. Ball explained the site plan layout concepts.
Mr. Buller asked Lewis Homes to explain the thought process on how
they develop the site plan layout.
r. Bell stated that buildings .are plotted for privacy in that
patios and balconies do not face ;patios and balconies on adjacent
buildings. Also, entrances are not plotted opposite another
entrance. The natural grade of 3 - within Terra Vista is suited
to B-plex style buildings which allow grade to be taken up between
buildings. A longer building is more constrained by its size and
shape and would require expensive stepping of the building pad and
larger retaining walls and/or slopes.
Mr. 'Buller asked Lewis Homes whether certain architectural styles
lent themselves to a particular building configuration" Did the
architecture dictate an 8-plex building?
Mr. Bell replied that it did not.
r. Buller asked Lewis Homes if the goal is to create units that
have window exposures on at least two sides. were there other
solutions?
Mr. Borrill stated that there was not.
Otto Kroutil , Senior planner, disagreed and stated there were
alternative solutions.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that certain elevations for the three
newest projects were too simple and were reminiscent of the ;style of
architecture prevalent in the 19501s.
John Melcer, representing Levis Homes, stated that a dwelling is a
background for a peson's life and shouldbe restrained.
Mr. Lagoni , explained that the architecture for Tentative Tract
13270 was intentionally kept simple to keep the cost down. He also
explained the use of post-modernistic elements in the patios and
balconies.
Mr. Kroutil stated that given the constraints of an 8-plex product
type, Lewis Homes had done all that could be done architecturally.
However, he stated that the feeling of repetitiveness is created by
the almost exclusive use of an B-plex product type that dictates a
certain building form and mass. Therefore the choice of product
type is critical to providing; variety. Mr. kroutil explained that
techniques can be used to vary the appearance of the upper and lower
floors. The floor plans do not have to be identical stacked
units. For example, he indicated that units can be cantilevered out
over first floor or lower floor floor plans: can be slightly larger
allowing the building to step back, 1 story units can be used on the
ends of buildings.. Carriage units over garages : can also be
introduced for variety. Mr. kroutil stated that it is a lack: of
product variety, not a lack of quality, that is the issue.
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r. Bell indicated that the 8-plex type of product will be replaced
soon with other types of product in areas of different density.
Discussion followed concerning the issue of product type. The
consensus of the Commission was that the product type was the key
and that other product types should be explored. The Commission
agreed that the quality of architecture for multi-family was
acceptable overall within Terra Vista. The three newest projects
should go back to Design Review Committee for review and
consideration of their architecture based upon their individual
merits.
B. AWARDS FOR DESIGN EXCELLENCE
Review of numinatibns for annual ;Awards for Design Excellence and
selection of recipients.'
Ban Coleman, Senior Planner, explained the purpose of the awards and
gave a slide presentation of the nominees.
Discussion followed concerning the categories of ;awards that may be
given.
Brad Buller, suggested that letters of commendation could be given
in certain categories, such as parks.
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Discussion followed concerning the nominations. The consensus of
the Commission was that awards should be given in the following
categories: Single family residential , multifamily residential ,
commercial , neighborhood commercial , office, industrial master plan
document, master planned development, landscaping, rehabilitation,
and community facilities. The Commission directed staff to prepare
a final list of nominations.
Meeting was adjourned a . 8 p.m. to, the March 25, 1987 regular
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUT -3- FEBRUARY 26, I9�87
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regul ar Meeti ng
February 25, 198
Vice-Chas r°-- Larry McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of _Rancho
Cucamonga ,ing Commission to order at :DD p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Pars, ,,ommunity Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT. Suzanne Chitiea Bruce Eme ick, Larry
McNi el ,; Peter Tol toy
ABSENT: E. David Barker
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Bruce Cook,: Associate Planner; Howard Fields, Assistant
Planner, Nancy Fong, Associate Planner; Barrye Hanson,
Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney;
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner; Sett Murphy, Assistant
Planner; Janice Reynolds, Planning Commission Secretary;
Chris Westman, Assistant Planner"
APPROVAL DE MINUTES
The minutes of June- B, 1986 were removed from the agenda due to a lack of
quorum of Commissioners attending that meeting,
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 10414 - REYNOLDS - The review of building
e eva 'ons or sing a ami y e ac a homes within an existing
residential subdivision of 17 Lots on 10 acres of land in the Very Low
Residential District less than 2 dwelling units/acre) located south o
Carrari Street and west of Haven Avenue - AP 1-101-1 .`
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D. TRACE 12577 - (DESIGN REVIEW) - NORDI - Design Review of building
e eva ions en p pans T5F a Ofe0fau-s-Ty approved tract map comprised of
16 lots on 4.2 acres in the Low Density Residential District (2-4 dwelling
units per acre), located on the south side of lgth Street, west of Hellman
Avenue APN 2 2-D41- , 52.
E. TRACT 13318 (DESIGN REVIEW) - MAYFLOWER HOMES - Design review of building
e eva Eons an p o pans for a prevfous .Y approved tract consisting of 16
single family lots on 5 acres of land in the Low Density Residential
District ''2-4 dwelling units/acre, located at the southeast corner of
Nermo ,nue and Man anita Drive - APN 201-181-28.
Motion: y Tolstoy, seconded by Emeric , unanimously carried, to adopt
the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC BEARING
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 85- 5
MESSENGER7CROWN COACH e es ao i s mere o a or oiae us assesoi
dsi ness wit i n an existing 168,ODD square foot i n�dustri al bui 1 ding, and
the 83,000 square foot expansion of the existing building on 11.8 acres of
land in the General Industrial/Rail Served District (Subarea 2), located
at the southeast corner of Arrow Highway and Vineyard Avenue - AN 209-
0 2-1 . (Continued from December 10, 1986).
DEVE- REVIEW 86-1 MODIFICATION MESSENGER The request. to
mo ... revs ous y approve as er an y re u 1 ng ;the site area of
Phase III from 4.4 acres to 2.9 acres in the General' Industrial/Rail
Served District (Subarea 2), located at the northeast corner of gth Street
and Vineyard Avenue - APN 2 9-D12-16." (Continued from December 10, 1986. )
Vice-Chairman MONiel announced that the Planning Commission was in receipt of
a letter from the applicant withdrawing this item from the agenda.
E. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 6-0 - CITY OF
eques o amen a an se amen o e enera
an rum ow edi um Density Residential 4-8 dwelling units per acre) to
Low Density; Residential (2-4 dwelling units per acre) and/or Very Low
Density Residential (less than 2 dwelling units per acre) for 58 acres of
land located at the southwest corner of Wilson (if extended) and Milliken
(if extended) - APN 20 -191-11, 17. (Continued from January 14, 19 7)
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OF 'RANCRO - reques o amen eve opraen roc ap r
oa on; rol ) and "L " (Low Medium Density Residential 2-
dwelling units per acre) for 68 acres of land located at the southwest
corner of Wilson (if 'extended) and Milliken (if extended) - APN 201-191-
1 , 17.
Vice-Chairman McNiel announced that the Planning Commission was in receipt of
a letter from the applicant requesting a continuance to March 25, 1987. He
then opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion: d by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
continue tne public hearing for Environmental Assessment and General Plan 66-
03D and Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 86-05 to
the Planning Commission agenda of March 25, 197.
Vice-Chairman McNi el announced that the following items would be advanced in
this agenda.
M. ENVIRDN ENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 6-30 - BROWN LEARY` -
The development of 6 80e acu d ps c a r1 c ospi a approxf ma d y
,000 square foot of floor area, on 6.12 acres of land in the Industrial
Park District (Subarea 7) of the Industrial Specific Plan, located at the
northeast corner of Arrow Route and Red Oak Street APN 208-351-42;
Vice-Chai 1 n McNi el announced that the applicant for this item was requesting
a continuance. He then opened the public hearing..
Richard Fuerstein, representing the applicant, requested a continuance to
April, H, 1987.
There were no further public comments.
Motion: Moved. by Chi ti ea, seconded by Toi stoy, unanimously ; carried, to
continue consideration of Environmental Assessment and. Conditional Use Permit
6-30-to the April d, 198 Planning Commission agenda.
ice Chairman McNiel announced that the; following item would be advanced in
the agenda:
Q. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY AMENDMENT 6-02
reues o amen a errs is a Planned
o un y 5y igta shing a Business Park Overlay Zone for areas
designated as Office Park, Commercial and Mixed Use, within the Planned
Community boundary - APN 107 -421-D6, 1077-091- 7a (Continued from
January '14, 19 7
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Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that this item was continued from a
previous greeting, therefore, was being advanced in the agenda.. He
additionally stated that the Planning Commission's action on this amendment
would be a recommendation to the City Council .
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jahn Meg presenting the applicant, commented on the staff report. He
advised ie applicant wanted to develop the business park type of use
with the twit i"ange of uses listed in each of the zones indicated as potential
locations for this use. He, therefore, disagreed that the overlay zone is
redundant and asked that it be allowed to apply to: all the ' zones. He
disagreed with staff's conclusion that retail studio land uses do not give
sufficient definition of this section and is therefore of no value. He
pointed out that the staff report also states that appliance repair, plumbing
shops and supplies, television and radio repair and upholstery shops are
incompatible uses in an office `park and agreed that this statement as written
is true; however, the applicant stated 'these uses are entirely appropriate
within a business park environment. He commented on staff' s suggestion that
floor, wall and window covering sales and installation, paint and home
decorating; stores could involve large showrooms and warehousing and advised
that these would be retail uses and he expected the tenants to be small
merchants whose primary trade is developed from the residential sections of
the co ur He believed that the receiving of Household goods, the retail
sale of goods and the : delivery and installation of such goods in
customer's nog es and place of business is a legitimate and appropriate
activity within Terra Visa and not in any way industrial in character. He
disagreed that dance studio would be inappropriate in this environment and
stated they are small businesses which require relatively large floor areas
and low rents and, therefore, have a need of the business park environment
e felt that dance studios may be priced out of commercial recreational
facilities and stated it is unlikely that any dance studio could adversely
affect other businesses uses or activities. He indicated that noise factors
could be mitigated through construction. He further disagreed that the
potential for adverse environmental impacts exists and suggested that it would
be appropriate to prepare a Negative Declaration on the basis of the proposal
as submitted. Mr. Melcher additionally gave a slide presentation.
Terry Sario, 10025 Yew Street., Rancho Cucamonga, .stated that residential uses
should be above Foothill and any type of commercial uses below Foothill .
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Chi ti ea stated that she did not think that expanding would be
beneficial to the City or the community. she found nothing in the applicant's
proposal to support that the request was essential to Terra. Vista and stated
that the uses proposed belong in an industrial area. She stated that for the
City to take everything on a case-by-case basis is not the appropriate way to
control land uses and was unconfortabl e with the request for all uses in all
:zones.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the planning that went into the Planned
o uni tl e' *° Loess was quite extensive and the uses that were allowed to go
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in the ommunities were looked at very closely. He was concerned with
placing Bess Park Overly in a Planned Community. He stated that it
reduces tr;e quality of the land use pattern that was established. He pointed
out that when a developer has a building to rent he never knows what tenants
will go into what building; therefore,; one never knows how to design the
building to accomplish sound attenuation to accommodate a light manufacturing
or dance studio type of use. He further stated that businesses come and go
and uses change and it would be difficult to anticipate all kinds of uses in
all kinds of design requirements. He stated that the Planned Community Text
currently has provisions for many of the uses the applicant is asking for in
the Business Overlay request. He did not think that the additional ones the
applicant wished to add would enhance the Terra Vista project commercial areas
or office park areas. He further stated that the City has many acres of
business park available to developers, and did not'support the request because
it is in conflict with the General Plan.
Vice-Chairman McNiel stated that he concurred. He ;pointed out that the
applicant stated that eventually the Business Park Overlay would become all
office, which is what currently exists in the Plan.` He could not support the
request.
Motion: Moved by Emerick seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to direct
staff to prepare a Resolution of Denial to be placed on the March 25, 1987
Planning Commission agenda.
F. VARIANCE 87 01 - LANE A request to reduce the minimum front yard setback
from 37... fiR t6 31 et for Lot 6 and from 7 feet to 27 feet, for Lot 5,
on a 1.65 acre tract in the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units
per acre), located on the west side of Turner Avenue, south of Base Line
Road at Ironwood Street - APN 1077-041- 8.'
Howard Fields, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing,
Terry Lane, applicant, concurred with the findings of the Resolution and
conditions of approval .
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There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving Variance 67-0I. Motion carried by the following vote:
RYES: COMMISSIONERS TOLSTDY, EMERICK ITIEA, MCNIE
NOES., COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER -carried
G. ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMLNTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 13475 - WDS DEVELOPMENT - A
cos orrr o su i vi sign o parce on , acres o an i n e Cow
Density Residential District ( -4 dwelling units per acre), located on the
east side of Ramona Avenue, north of Church Street.. Associated with this
application is "free Removal Permit 6-64 requesting the removal of the
existing (4) Eucalyptus windrows - APN 1077-301-38.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman McNiel ;opened the public hearing.
Richard Castello, representing the applicant, concurred with the findings of
the Resolution and conditions of approval . He indicated a willingness to wo
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with staff , the preservation of trees on the site.
The fallowing individuals addressed the Commission opposing the tree removal
permit.
Terry ;Sario, I05 Yew Street, Rancho Cucamonga
Rick Nicholson, 7662 Dartmouth, Rancho Cucamonga
Richard Rivas, 7654 Dartmouth, Rancho Cucamonga
Additionally, a petition containing '36 naves in opposition to the tree removal
permit was presented;to the Commission.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
o issioner Emerick -stated that the consensus of the existing neighbors seems
to indicate that the trees should be saved. He pointed out that the developer
has also offered to save the trees along the north; and east boundaries of the
tract.' He: suggested that the tract be approved with the condition that all
the Eucalpus trees that are possible to be sabred along the exterior north and
east property lines subject to design p y es gn review approval. He suggested that the
applicant might want to consider applying for a variance on those lots where
there is not enough room to provide a good back ,Yard while saving the
trees.. He felt that the trees in the interior should be looked at on a tree-
by-tree basis during Design Review,
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the windbreaks on the north and east property
lines should be preserved. He asked the current policy regarding an arborist
inspection of trees.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that either staff or the Commission has the
discretion to require an arborist report with a tree removal permit, He
indicated that staff did not feel ' review of the trees by an arborist was
necessary in this particular instance.
o issi stoy suggested that the trees be topped if they are extremely
high. -ed that the interior trees should be removed and replaced with
an appropriate variety.
r. Murphy" advised that staff would require the trees to be trimmed, removed
of dead branches and a general clean up of debris around the base as
conditions of approval for any tree removal permit.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, advised that staff discourages the practice of
tree topping based on the 'expert testimony of an arborist during review of the
Tree Preservation Ordinance.
Commissioner Chi ti ea stated that aesthetically, she was very much in favor of
saving the trees. However, based on the number of recent reports from
arborist and people who are looking into borer beetle infestation, she was
uncomfortable with leaving the trees on the interior of the property. She
indicated her preference would be to remove and replant all of the trees,
out since 'ieighbors and developer indicated their desire to retain then,
she would ncede to those wishes,
Vice-Chairman M Niel stated that the density proposed by this project falls
within the ranges established by the General Plan and Development ent Code. His
preference 'would also be to remove and replace all the existing trees for the
liability and safety of the people who would live there..
r, Buller suggested that the tree removal permit could be denied and a
condition be placed on the tract that at the time of design review the tree
removal permit e considered. He indicated that the Commission would then
know how the units would fit on the lots in relationship to the trees. ,
Commissioner Emerick suggested that the developer be required to install a
deep watering system.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that an arborist examine the trees and report,
to the Commission on the feasibility of preservation.
Mr, Buller suggestd modification of the conditions to state that should
grading be pursued prior to an actual design review, a modified grading plan
showing preservation of all the trees along the north and east property lines
shall be submitted and approved.
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otion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chi iea, to adopt issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Tentative Tract 'I347 , with
`modifications to include the requirement for a revised" grading plan showing
preservation of all trees along the north and east property lines, and
provisions for the possibility of a deep watering system for the trees should
they be preserved. The Free Removal Permit was denied'. An arborist report
was required to be submitted for Design Review consideration, at which time
the passibility for changes may occur. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: IMMISSIONERS TC STUY> CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER' -carried
H. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 84-4 - CRATE - A two year review for compliance
w e approve conditions o ; approval of an established 1,660 square
foot church within a 6,600 square foot multi-tenant industrial building in
the General Industrial Area (Subarea 4) located on the south side of 6h
Street east of Archibald Avenue - APN` 10 7 48.
Chris fides an, Assistant planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Jim Crate, pastor of the church, advised that the items had not been completed
due to financing problems. He indicated that the church was now in a
financial position to complete the conditions of approval .
Joseph Barfedo, 935 Golden Rain, Upland, stated that although the church was
out of compliance with the conditions of approval , they had been cooperating
with the City to now bring those items into compliance.
Forrest Hindley, 568 Deerhaven Court, Rancho Cucamonga, gave an overview o
the problems faded by newly formed' churches. He advised that it was very
difficult for these new churches to meet the demands of the Fire District due
o the expense involved. He suggested formation of a task force comprised of
area pastors and members of City staff and the Commission to discuss these
problems and issues. He suggested a higher tolerance and some encouragement
of churches would be the goal of this task- force. He felt that churches
should not be considered as businesses, but as non-profit organizations
designed to help the community.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated that the City was primarily concerned with the
safety of the people; who attend the group meetings. She indicated that it was
not because these churches are located within the business districts that they
are being conditioned to meet the requirements of the Fire Code and safety
regulations, it is simply one means to insure the safety of those people
gathering. She recognized that it was sometimes difficult to come up with the
funds to complete these items; however, she felt that the safety concerns must
be addressed. With respect to this particular use, she sawn no problems with
it and saw no reason not to let the applicant submit their application as long
as they c, ' I complete the conditions of approval
Commissi Astoy stated his concern was the safety issue and compliance
with Firs rr regulations. He felt that the extension should be granted when
those regulations had been mete
Dan Coleman, Senior planner, Mated that if the applicant were to apply for
the expansion, which would be a modification to the Conditional Use Permit,
staff would not bring it to the Commission with a recommendation of approval
until; such time as ;the Building and Safety and Fire District items had been
completed.
Vice-Chairman McNiel asked if a time limit could be placed on the Conditional
Use Permit
Commissioner Chitiea recalled a previous Conditional Use Permit that had a
time limit placed on it; however, the time limit was never met. She was very
concerned with this approach. She pointed out that the group could meet in
double ser :,--es if necessary and stated that she could not recommend that this
type of safety violation be allowed to exist.
Commissioner Cmerick agreed and stated that the applicant should come back
with an application reflecting that the chinch had doubled the size of the
facility. He stated that a time limit for compliance with the Fire Code
regulations should be included in the conditions of approval
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner cautioned the Commission against approving the
extension request with a time limit for compliance. He stated that the City
wouldin essence be condoning the operation of the church in violation of the
building and fire regulations. He suggested that the condition should remain
as written to not allow group meetings of more than Q ,persons until the
building is brought into compliance.*
Vice-Chairman McNiel stated he was in absolute agreement that the City' should
not turn its back on the codes; however, by the same token, he felt compassion
for these people and their situation. He stated he would be inclined to grant
them 30 days for staff to contact the Fire District to make an inspection of
the facility.
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r, Buller advised that the Fire Marshall could close the church down. He
recommended that the Commission take the action of continuing the item for 30
days to allow the applicant to submit a revision to the Conditional Use
Permit. During this time the Fire District could make an inspection for
compliance of Fire Code regulations
i d b iseconded Mot on. Move Emer cTolstoy, unanimously carri d
continue Conditional Use 'Permit 84-22 to the Planning Commission meeting of
March 25, 1987. The applicant is to resubmit an application and the Fare
District to inspect for compliance.
8:50 p.m. - Planning` Commission Recessed
: 10 p.m. Planning,Commission Reconvened
I. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 85-03 - CHRI TIAN FAMILY FELLOWSHIP - A two year
review or compliance with ap a ve con long bf approval of an
established 1,650 square foot church within a 6,000 square foot multi-
tenant industrial building in the General Industrial Area (Subarea 4)
located on the south side of 6th Street east of Archibald Avenue - AP
10-0 1-47, 48.
Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Forrest Hindley, 568 Deerhaven Court, pastor of the church, stated that he was
also concerned with the safety of people, however, the items out of compliance
were those of specific codes. He advised that Orangewood Baptist Church has
no more than 30 people meeting and using this facility, and he was not aware
that they would require a separate Conditional Use permit. He stated that the
temporary signs in question had been stolen. He advised that the church will
be moving from this facility in dune to a site in the Cucamonga Business Park,
which was formerly Brethren in Christ Church and currently being utilized by
tar's Fitness Center He did not concur with the recommendation to submit an
application for modification within 30 days since by the time the application
was processed through the normal channels the church would be Vacating the
site within a few days®
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed,
Commissioner Eeri ck stated he understood the applicant's dilemma in that he
did not want to put money into a building the church would be vacating.
However, he questioned if the Commission should be 'concerned with the issue of
the church moving since the Fire District must operate under their codes which
state no group meetings may ' occur until these issues are addressed. He
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suggested a further condition that the church vacate the facility by June 1,
1987.
r. Duller questioned the applicant if ;the facility he is moving to is now
vacant
r. Hindley advised that Star's Fitness Center is currently utilizing the
facility and awaiting completion of tenant improvements on the Archibald
location. The leasing agent had advised the church that the 'building would be
vacated D,, a- 1st.,
Mr, Bulle that he could not recall a Conditional Use Permit submitted
by Star's "�, "toes" tness Center for a facility on Archibald and cautioned that it
could be later than dune before they could move to the Archibald site if this
had not been done. He suggested that no action be taken by the Planning
Commission at this time other than to defer to staff to discuss with the Eire
District the status of whether they will request staff to pursue revocation of
the CUP for non-compliance.
It was the consensus of the Commission to request the applicant to submit an
application for modification to the Conditional Use Permit within 30 days.
Within 30 days, staff is to meet with the Eire District as to the status of
compliance and to obtain the Eire District's concurrence to delay enforcement
proceedings until June
J. ENVIRUI syi NTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -0 - PILGRIM HOUSE,
rogues o c onduct re a sae o urn ure in con,l nc ion wT
1 C wholesale storage and distribution
st bubo wit
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g , thin an existing industrial
facility in;the General g Industrial District (Subarea 14) locaed at 12215
4th Street APN 9-331-1 .
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no comments,
therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion. Moved by Emerick, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried to issue a
Negative Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental
Assessment and Conditional Use Permit H -D , Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES. _; COMMISSIONERS EMERICK, CHI IEA MCNI L, TOLS O
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 85-1 MODIFICATION - JEHOV'A 'S WITNESS - A
reques o mo , a can ion OT approval requiring e un ergroun fng of
existing overhead utilities along Church Street for a proposed church on
the north side of Church Street, east of Archibald Avenue - APN 177- 1-
0
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chai .. iel opened the public hearing®
Cal Curr ' resenti g the applicant, Mated that the applicant was willing
to comply with the modified conditions of approval and urged approval of the
request. g pp
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chtiea 'agreed with staff's recommendation and Mated this was a
reasonable request in light of the situation and the changing laws. She felt
that the in lieu fee was appropriate.
Vice-Chairman McNi l was concerned with the b increase to be charged by the
PUC and stated he would like staff to pursue the matter.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, suggested that the Commission advance the letter
received from the PUC to the City Council with a recommendation that the City
o on record with the PUC either requesting clarification or stating
opposition ;:o the fee structure. He further suggested that staff invite the
local utility representative to attend the Council meeting when the item would
be discussed.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
modifying the condition of approval requiring the undergrounding of existing
overhead utilities along Church Street. Additionally, staff was directed to
forward the letter received from the PUC to the City Council .. Motion carried
by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA, TOLSTOY, E E IC , MCNIEL
LADES. COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER , -carried
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, 1111111111111AI AIIISSMIIT AND TRACT 11011 IMOD FICATIDN III FIELDSTONE
COMPANY" Ica lon o ionsppro+ra perm wroug iron
encing adjacent to Deer Creek Channel for Tract 13057, an approved
residential subdivision of 22.55 acres within the Victoria Planned
Community (Low-Medium Residential , 4-8 dwelling units per acre) into 147
lots, located at the southeast corner of Highland Avenue and Deer Creek;-
APN 202- 1-13, 38.
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report,
Dan Coles: ,.nior Planner, advised that the applicant for this item was not
present evening and suggested that the Commission might consider
continuing discussion to the next agenda
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Doug Lion, Rancho Cucamonga resident representing the ACTIVE group, concurred
with staff' s recommendation to 'deny the request.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Emerick;supported staff's recommendation to deny the request.
Vice-Chairman McNiel suggested that a Resolution of Denial be placed on the
March 25, 1987 agenda and that_ staff be directed to contact the applicant and
advise hint that should he wish to address the Commission, he could do so at
that meeting
Motion: Moved by Chi ti ea, seconded by Tol stay, to direct staff to prepare a
Resolution- of Denial for the March 25, 1987 Consent Calendar and to contact
the applicant and advise him of these proceedings. Motion carried
unanimously.
N. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ;87-01 - INLAND EMPIRE
e es a is men o a u ink con rac ors o ice an yard to
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an e sting building, with a lease 'space of 1,540 square feet on 2.99
acres of land in the General Industrial District (:Subarea 4) located at
9375 Archibald Avenue, Ste. 501 - APN 210-071-48.
Cindy Norris, Assistant Planner', presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no comments,
therefore the public hearing was closed
Motion. Moved by Emerick, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Conditional Use Permit 87-01. Motion carried by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS EERICK, TOLSTOY, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES:; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER -carried
O. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT' 86- _ THE PLANNING GROUP - The request to amend
. .Re` on i iona a PermitY adding business support services to
a co, sales and services development project on 1. 18 acres of land
in t; eral Industrial/Rail Served District (Subarea ), located at the
northeast corner of Hth Street and Vineyard Avenue PN 01-01 -15.
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. There were no comments,
therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion. Moved by Chitiea, seconded. by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving the amendment to Conditional Use Permit 86- 4. Motion carried by
the fallowing vote:
AYES; COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA, EMERICK, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES:: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER -carried
P. STREET NAME CHANGE FOR TURNER AVENUE - Proposed to be Hermosa Avenue, a
rforth7south running ree rom Rancho Cucamonga City Limits just
north of 4th Street to its terminus at Rase Lino Road, a distance of
approximately three miles.
Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Vice-Chairman MtNiel opened the public hearing.
Arnold Anderson, Rancho Cucamonga resident, opposed the name change to
Hermosa. He advised that during this past year he had developed a 1 ,000
square foot shopping center which had been named Turner Plaza because of its
location on Turner Avenue and Arrow Route; He felt the -change of street
address from Turner to Hermosa would probably make the name of the center
worthless. He supported the change to extend Turner Avenue north to the City
Limits rather than extend Hermosa to the south.
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Tom Everett, 769 Turner, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that historically Hermosa
belonged to the community of Alta Loma and Turner to the community of
Cucamonga. He advised that there are more houses and businesses which front
on Turner than on Hermosa. Due to the expense involved in the; street name
change and expense to businesses and homeowners alike, he supported leaving
the street name as it currently exists.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Co issio merick found the name Hermosa to be more aesthetically pleasing
than Tu °°fie felt it made good sense in terms' of unification to make the
street c He supported the:name change to Hermosa Avenue in the City
Limits of Kan ho Cucamonga, recognizing it would be a brew in continuity with
the City of Ontario.
Commissioner Tol stay supported naming the sheet one name and concurred with
the choice of Hermosa due to its historical significance.
Commissioner Chitiea, agreed that Hermosa was the more aesthetically pleasing
of the two names, and supported the change to Hermosa based on its historical
significance
Vice-Chairman McNiel stated the fact that there are two 24th Streets, two 25th
Streets, and two 26th Streets in the City was significantly more confusing
than this particular street name change. ' He didn't find the name Hermosa any
more aesthetically pleasing than Turner and stated that it made more sense to
him to con l ue Turner up; into the foothills. He suggested that another more
significant street within the City could then be named Hermosa. He supported
the change to Turner based on the fact that there are a nigher number of
addresses for both businesses and residences on Turner.
Commissioner Tolstoy made the motion to recommend the name change to Hermosa.
Vice-Chairman McNiel suggested that the Commission recommend to the City
Council that the name change become effective one year from the: adoption of
the name change. He pointed out that this would allow businesses and
residence enough time to make necessary changes to business cards, letterhead,
etc.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to recommend to the City
Council that Turner Avenue be changed to Hermosa Avenue from the southern
Rancho Cucamonga; City Limits north to its terminus at Base Line Road. The
name change was' recommended to become effective one year from its adoption by
the City Council . Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS TO,LSTOY, EMERICK, CHITIEA
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER -carried
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DIRECTOR'S REPORT
R. REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) FOR TRAILS STUDY
Karen McGuire-Emery, Assistant Park Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea commented on the Parks Commission recommendation
regarding , inns trails and asked if it included those trails which might
e planns the future. She stated she would have a problem with that
concept because trails may not connect new, but there may be ways of making
them connect in the future. She stated she would not like to see those trails
eliminated because at this point in time those connections are not there.
s. McGuire-Emery stated her understanding was that the trails would be those
that are not coterminus with a' regional multi-purpose trail in the future.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that her concern was that sometimes the only
connections are less than community size trails and to put into the request
for proposal the elimination of those trails is not the direction she would
like to see taken. She advised that she would like to see an expansion of the
trails system throughout the City wherever possible as secondary circulation,
whether it be equestrian or minor trails for 'pedestrians. She reoested some
anguage within the Request For Proposal to indicate the desire to expand and
make 'tra4 ` ,onnections wherever possible and in whatever war possible.
Further, s is ti res the connections at a regional or community trail level may
not be possible, but she felt that other methods of making these connections
should be explored. She considered secondary circulation to be important for
the rural atmosphere and for the type of lifestyle the City is trying to
promote throughout the community. She additionally requested that all herds
be included in the contract to make sore there is no room for additional
charges in the future.
t was the consensus of the Commission that with the comments received this
evening, the report be forwarded to the City Council .
S. TERRA V l A MEDIANS
Bruce Cook, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
John Melcher, representing Lewis Homes, urged that the direction be for staff
to work with the City Engineer and the Traffic Engineer to minimize the
lengths needed for the mid-block median breaks so that landscaping can be
maximized.
Planning Commission Minutes -16- February 25, 1987
It was the concurrence of the Commission to accept staff's recommendation to
permit a mid-block median break within Church Street between Elm and Milliken.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
d 00N a.
Motion: Moved by Tol stoy, seconded by Chi ti e , unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
11:00 p. _ planning Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Deputy Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes -17- February 25, 1987
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
February 11, 1987
Chairman David Barker called the, Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: E. David Barker, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: one
STAFF PRESENT: Jeff Barnes, Parks Supervisor; Brad Buller, City Planner;
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate Planner;
Greg Gage, Assistant Planner; Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil
Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Otto Kroutil ,
Senior Planner; Debra Meier, Assistant Planner; Scott
Murphy, Assistant Planner; Janice Reynolds, Planning
Commission Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the March 11, 1987 Planning Commission
would be cancelled due to lack of quorum. The Commissioners will be attending
the Planning Commissioners Institute from March 11 through 16.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Emerick, unanimously carried, to approve
the Minutes of January 14, 1987, with language amendments by Commissioner
Chitiea to pages 13 and 14, and to page 7 by Chairman Barker.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. TENTATIVE TRACT 13057 (DESIGN REVIEW) - THE FIELOSTOWCOMPANY - Review of
s e an an -- In itecture f6F THR ' '1305'7';' ''an approved
it pld bu1 Td- _g arch
residential subdivision of 11.11 acres within the Victoria Planned
Community (Low-Medium Residential 4-8 dwelling units per acre) into 147
lots, located at the southeast corner of Highland Avenue and Deer Creek -
APN 202-211-13, 38.
Motion; Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel , unanimously carried, to adopt
the consent calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY END ENT -0
re ues amen a erra anise
ommurlr y y s al) fishing a Business Park Overlay Zone for areas
designated as Office Pare, Commercial and Mixed Use, within the Planned
Community boundary - APN 1077-4 1-0 , 1077-091-17. (Continued from
January 14, 19 7)
Chairman Harker announced that the Planning Commission was in receipt of a
letter from the applicant requesting this item be continued to the Feoruary
5, 1987 meeting. He then opened the public hearing. There were no public
comments.
Notion: Moved by Tol stoy, seconded by Chi ti ea, unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing for Environmental Assessment and Terra Vista
Planned Community Amendment 86-02 to the February 25, 1987 Planning Commission
agenda.
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Do - NEW HOPE
roposa o oda e c uric u
ace y o s re
ee wi n an eist sting multi-tenant industrial center in the General
Industrial District (Subarea 1) located at dS O Vineyard Avenue - APN 07-
2 -49
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
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Chairman Darker opened the public hearing. There were no comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed,,
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, recommended that "during hours of
religious assembly and group meetings` be added to the end of Condition
relative to nurseries and Sunday School
Commissioner Tolstoy recalled past enforcement problems with uses such as this
net meeting Fire Department requirements. He stated he would.` not like to see
that situation repeated
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that Condition 6 stated that public
assembly or large group meetings cannot occur until compliance; with Fire
Department regulations. He pointed out that the condition further requires
plans to be submitted to Foothill Fire District and the building to be
inspected prior to issuance' of occupancy permits.
Planning Commission Minutes February 11, 197
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Toltoy, to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional
Use Permit Hb- , with an amendment to Condition 8 adding "during hours of
religious assembly and group meetings". Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, BARKER, CHI IEA, E ERICK
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND AMENDMENT TO TITLE 14 OF THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Emerick questioned Item K and the use of 75 as the percentage of
the units that have been leased or rented. He felt that if 5 of the units
were vacant, perspective tenants would still need direction to the leasing
office. He suggested that ,the figure be increased to 90
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the top reader board should announce the name
of the planned community.
Commissioner Chi ti ea suggested that guidelines be developed outlining the
appropriate sign design and the type of illumination allowed. She advised
that directional signs should net be misconstrued as advertising because of
the way they are designed and illuminated.
Commissioner Tol stay was concerned with the design of commercial/industrial
project signs and stated they should be coordinated with the uniform sign
program for the center and should be of permanent construction. He felt that
Exhibit "811 of the Resolution was appropriate for planned communities signs;
however,, felt that the de
sign n wa
s not
industrial project.
g appropriate for a commercial or
r Coleman advised that when commercial or industrial signs are submitted,
staff reviews the design for architectural compatibility with the project. He
pointed out in many cases the shape and form of the sign reflects the form or
design feature of the building.
Chairman Barker suggested that staff be directed to address the commercial and
industrial signs as another.issue. He then opened the public hearing.
John Melcher, representing Lewis Homes, concurred with the findings of the
staff report. He addressed the issue of vacancy percentage and advised that
he would concur with Commissioner Emerick"s proposal to increase the
percentage to 9
Planning Commission Minutes -5 February II, 1987
Commissioner McNi el asked if a sign design proposal had been submitted.
r. Mel Cher replied that a design had been submitted and reviewed by staff.
He indicated that the sign would have a header board at the top whicn refers
to Tura vista and will nave the names of residential projects only. He
stated that he had discussed with staff the possibility of occasionally where
appropriate to identify non-commercial community features such as parks and
schools.
Chairman Harker asked if the proposed language that would prohibit that type
of sign use..
. Coleman stated that language had not been included to address this issue,
however, could be added if the Commissiondesied.
Commissioner Tol stay asked if Mr. Mel Cher would object to adding "Planned
Community" to the header board announcing Terra Vista.
r. Melcher agreed to that addition.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hewing was closed.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Chi ti ea, to recommend adoption of
Environmental Assessment and Amendment to Title 14 of the Rancho Cucamonga
Municipal Code ` concerning directional signs to the City Council , with
edification to item K to increase the percentage to 90 , and inclusion of an
announcement of the planned community to the top header: board identifying i t
as a planned community. The Commission directed staff to refer the sign
design to the Design Review Committee. Motion carried by the following vote.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS MCNIEL, CHITiEA, BARKER, EM RICK, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Commissioner McNiel questioned if there was an opportunity on the BIA signs to
place items such as historic sites in the community.
r. Buller stated that staff could place this topic on the Planning Division
work program. He stated that discussions could be undertaken with the RIA to
determine if criteria: could be developed. He cautioned against anything which
might be misconstrued as a commercial venture advertisement as in cases such
as the Christmas House and Thomas Winery.
Commissioner Emerick thought it a worthwile topic for discussion and suggested
that it be placed on the work program list. At the time of the work program
review, the priority level could be established,
Planning Commission Minutes a4 February 11, 1987
NEW BUSINESS
E. TREE REMOVAL PERMIT B -C1 - KUN & COMPANY - Appeal' of taff's decision
e�rova en ev reel oca e in rant of the Woolworth's Garden
Center the south 'side of Foothill Boulevard, east of Helms Avenue - AP B
208-261-55.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the;staff report.
Commissioner Chi tiea asked what` the City had done to initiate removal of this
nonconforming sign.
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, advised that under State law the only way
the City can remove a billboard' is through the condemnation process.
Chairman Barker invited public comment.
Jim Gentry,' representing Kunz and Company, advised that the gees in question
are blocking a lawfully erected outdoor advertising di spl ay. He stated that
it came to his attention that the City of Rancho Cucamonga required the trees
to be planted as part of the approval process for development of this site.
He felt the trees have now grown to such a height as to limit the use of the
display. He believed removal of the trees to be the most equitable solution
for all involved. At Kunz and Company expense, he would be willing to plant
smaller replacement bashes or trees at the discretion of the City.; Secondly,
he was willing to remove the sign with fair compensation by the City either
monetarily or by allowing relocation to a suitable site on 1-1. . Mr. Gentry
read an excerpt from the State of California Business and Professions Code
relative to just compensation.
Doug Lion, Rancho Cucamonga resident, opposed the tree removal request. He
stated that if the City required the trees to be planted as part of a project
approval process it seemed rather ridiculous to now require them to be
removed. He did not ;consider the fact that the trees had grown to be a valid
reason for removal .
There were no further public comments.
Chairman Barker asked for counsel 's direction on this issue.
Ralph Hansen, Deputy City Attorney, stated that Mr. Gentry presented his
appeal on the assumption of an inverse condemnation action by the City to
effect the taking of private property. He advised that he `saw no facts to
justify that there has been such action by the City.
Planning Commission Minutes -5 February 11, 1987
Chairman Barker stated that the City has, as a condition of approval , required
the planting of trees and landscaping. The appellant believes that this
action makes the City responsible for the impact to his sign. He asked for
counsel 's opinion.
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r. Hanson stated that it might be said that there has been an impact pact and the
City has been responsible; however, whether that impact raises se to the level of
an actual taking of the usefullness of that property would be a matter for the j
court to decide. He stated that by the appal l ant's own admission, it only
limits the value of the sign. By this statement by the appellant, he
indicated the appellant has failed` to meet the grounds for the taking of
property. He further advised that even if the Commission was to approve the
tree removal permit, there would still be no authority to cut down the trees
since this applicant did not own the trees and the City does not have the
property owner's permission. He stated that the City can't sanction this as-a
permit to tr ss ass on to other property to damage that property. He advised
denial of the Tree Removal Permit based on that fact.
Commissioner Emeri ck asked to be supplied with a copy of the text from which
r. Gentry read.
r. Ranson advised that this was the section he was referring to, which dealt
with non-compensated removals. He advised that this section really has
nothing to do with inverse condemnation in terms of taking of property, out
actually addresses the limitation of the traditional way cities formerly dealt
with billboards which was to amortize them over a 20 ,year period.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that the tree, planting for the area in
question is consistent with that which is presently being required on Foothill
Boulevard.
Commissioner Emerick stated that the applicant's thinking that any time a
person with a partially blocked sign would have a cause of action against the
City was ludicrous. He did not support the applicant's appear.
Commissioner Chitiea pointed out that the sign is still visible. She did not
support the appeal
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel , to deny the appeal Tree Removal
Permit 8741. Motion carried by the following vote;
AYES: COMMISSIONERS CNITIEA, MCNIEL, E ERICK, BARKER, TCLSTOY"
NOES: CC NIISSIQ ERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Planning Commission Minutes -C February 11, 1987
F. PRELIMINARY REVIEW 80-7 - NUWEST - A consistency determination between
the oo i orrl or n erim d icles and a proposed 90,700 square foot
integrated shopping center on 8. 7 acres of land in the General Commercial
District located at the southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Hellman
APN `.CB- bI- S and 26.
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, Presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker invited public comment.
Frederick Chan, NuWest Corporation, urged approval of the consistency
determination.
Commissioner M Niel asked if there were a major tenant for center at this
time.
r. Chan advised that there will be 4 or S major tenants for this center and
that tenant co ittment for approximately 40 of the spade had been secured at
this time.
Kenji Nomura, Nadel Partnership, gave an overview of the project.
Chairman Barker explained the consistency determination process and its
relationship to the Foothill Corridor Study.
There were no further public comments.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would rather have a project similar to this
proposal than a strip commercial project. His concern was the discussion o
this proposal prior to completion of the Foothill Plan.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that staff anticipated that public hearings
on the Foothill Plan would begin in approximately 45 days.
Commissioner Chi ti ea stated that as member of the Foothill Ltd Hoc Committee
she felt this project would be consistent with the direction the Committee
will be recommending to the Commission and Council She pointed out that the
project would be consistent in that it is a master planned project which is
sensitive to architectural style. As to the specific site plan, she commented
that those items would need to be addressed during ; the review process.
Overall , she felt the project conceptually was consistent with the Interim
Policies.
Commissioner McNi el agreed that the project would be consistent with the
Interim Policies. He further stated that the project has to go through the
normal review process, and didn't think those issues should; be discussed at
this time:
Planning Commission Minutes -7 February 11, 1987
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Mc;Niel unanimously carried, to
determine Preliminary Review 86-77, Nuwest, to be consistent with the Foothill
Corridor Interim Policies.
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C. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT Ho- 1C TAYLCR - Appeal of staff's decision
enyf ng Occupation Permit at__8I59__Malachite Avenue (Continued from
January 28, 1987)i,
Greg Cage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker advised that this item has been before the Commission on two
occasions and had not been heard in order to make sure the applicant had an
opportunity to appear. The applicant has been contacted and is aware of this
evening's hearing and was given every opportunity to be present.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that staff' s findings are sufficient to deny the
appeal , specifically based on noise, vibration, fumes and the outward changes
to the appearance of the property,
Motion; Moved by McNiel ,; seconded by Chitiea, unanimously tarried, to deny
the appeal of Home Occupation Permit 8 - C.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
H. CONCEPTUAL DISCUSSION/POTENTIAL OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IN ETIWANOA - DI
'acre 5iRill ar la6doca orl—thesouth s _um_ `i ,
wes� of San Sevaine Creek - AP -11-0 .:
Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Emeri ck questioned if there was an additional alternative which
was not in the packet.
Mr. ruiadvised h h o t l _ that when the project was reviewed by g the Design Review
Committee, the Committee had concerns with trails and lot widths. H
explained that the applicant prepared an alternative which eliminated the
east.-west trail ' connection and eliminated quite ; a few lots in order to
increase the lot widths to 60 feet,
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the trails connect to existing trails.
Mr. Kroutil advised that these are not egdestian lots; therefore, there are no
trails proposed. He indicated that the project north of Summit ties into the
Community Trail
Commissioner Toltoy questioned the length of the cul-de-sacs.
Planning Commission Minutes -H February 11, 1987
r. Kroutil advised that the cul-de-sacs are 600 feet, which is the maximum
length allowed.
Commissioner Eerick questioned the interpretation of the common open spade
and private open space definitions within the Etiwanda Specific Plan.
. kouti 1 advised that common open space is to be visually accessible, but
is not interpreted to mean that the open space must be used actively. He
advised that the alternate depicts open fencing at the rear of the lots.
Commissioner Emerick stated that by definition, he did not consider the plan
to comply with the Etiwanda Specific Plan because 12.88 acres is within the
rack yard areas and cannot be used as private open space.
r. Buller pointed out that the open space is accessible off the public right-
of-way
Commissioner Emorick-stated it seems that the back yards and passeos are being
assessed as private open space.
r. Kroutil advised that the intention was to create a condition which exists
in Etiwanda in that the development is not fenced off. He advised that the
30 open apace requirement was not only for uses of the land, ;but for the
enjoyment and open space. He indicated that visually accessible may or may
not include fencing.`
Commissioner McNiel stated that the objective under the Optional Standards was
to upgrade the; concept of development. He felt that this is a typical
development with some amenities l`oosly attached because of the Etiwanda
Specific plan* He stated he knew this developer could come up with some wider
street frontage to create that kind of concept the City hied to create
years ago during the review of the Etiwanda .Specific Plain. he stated this is
a basic project with amenities added on as an after thought.
Joe 8i lori , project developer, and Jess Harris gave a slide presentation and
overview of the proposed project.
Commissioner Chi ti ea referred to the pan with the center park design and
asked if it would provide for equestrian uses.
r. Cilorio advised that there is a trail north of the center park site;
However, a trail was not required down the center of the site. He felt it
would be difficult in the center park concept to work In an equestrian trail ..
Planning Commission Minutes -g February 11, 198
Commissioner Mc Niel stated that under the Basic Standards the average lots
sizes are 15,00 square feet. Under this plan, the average size is 9,800 to
10,000 square feet, which nets an addition 80 units and a 60increase in
density. He stated that for some time the Commission has discussed innovative
design; and greater variation in str etscape. This plan depicted neither of
those items and he was not nappy with the proposal . `
tated that one reason the project was referred to the full
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Commission by the Design Review Committee was to discuss the appropriateness
of granting 0 open space credit for the parkways, front yards and passed
system.
Commissioner McNiel stated that he could not see where the developer had
achieved that concept.
Commissioner Emeri ck stated that 0 open spate shbul d mean something to the
people who live in the project. He was concerned with the project open space
and how it would be maintained and saw no way around requiring aHomeowners'
Association. He suggested it might give more options if a gradient was used
to determine open space.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that moving the houses ;back on the lot to provide
extra space in the front ', r was an interesting concept, however, she was
concerned with the maintenance at the rear of the property.
Commissioner Tol stoy stated he could see that a lot of thought went into the
project with its sensitivity to maintain'' the Eti Wanda character+ He thought
private open space should be enjoyed by"the people who live in the project.
He shared the concern that if someone is not made responsible, the open space
won't be maintained. He was additionally concerned that the passeos don't
seem to go any where and didn't think they work in this project.
iorio addressed the issue of maintenance and stated that the question is
whether a Homeowners' Association or a landscape maintenance district would be
the most appropriate method.
Commissioner Emerick addressed the issue of whether open space credit should
be given for the surplus beyond the front yard setback and did not agree that
it should be given or at least not fully. He ,pointed out that the front yard
setbacks are being increased at the expense of narrowing the lot widths and
placing the houses closer together; He stated that passeos should be part of
the circulation system; however, these particular passeso simply go from one
edge of the tract boundary to the other edge of the tract boundary and don't
lend much to the open space due to their configuration. He further stated
that the City wants to retain the windrows and the existing trees on the
site and wants open space along Summit to help the appearance of the entire
community. He did not feel the plan provided enough of a trade off.
Planning Commission Minutes -10 February 11, 1987
Commissioner Chitiea pointed out that if the site were developed at 2 unit per
acre, this would be horse property as it is in within the Equesti an Overlay
Area. This development would require installation of bridle paths behind the
lots, which in effect would be the same thing as a passeo system. She pointed
out that in parts of Alta Loma the windrows are either adjacent to or
incorporated into the bridle area in the 'rear of the lots. 1n the 2 dwelling
unit per range, she felt this would be another alternative to getting the
system in and still maintaining windrows and the secondary circulation.
Chairman Barker disagreed that common open space was to be interpreted as
visually accessible and Mated it was not what he had in mind during the
Eti Wanda Specific Plan discussions. Because he was having trouble agreeing
with that interpretation,' he was also having difficulty agreeing than open
space credit should be given.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that development under the optional
standards would' accentuate and preserve the -Etiwanda appearance. Further•,
that visually could mean not so much from the user's standpoint but the
passerby visually seeing the open space.
Mr. krouti l stated the Commissioners, should keep in mind that the definitions
were set up to work with any type of a product, net necessarily with only a
single family detached subdivision. The attempt was made to make the
definition as general as possible within the constraints of some
interpretation.
Commissioner Tol stoy stand that the setbacks of the existing houses along
tiwanda Avenue give the feeling of open space rather than the closed feeling
of a tract development.
Chairman Barker stated that the argument is that it is not commonly useful
property whether it part of a Homeowners' Association or not. He felt that
common open space should not be interpreted as common visual open space, but
people should have common physical access to the open space. He was concerned
that if it is not interpreted this way, it would meean from this point on
anyone would be allowed to donate anything and the City would have to say if
you can see it ,you can get credit for it.
Commissioner Emeickstated that the literal interpreation seems to support
that in order to give credit for open space it has to be physically accessible
to everybody in ;the community; however, Mr. Kroutil stated that the intent of
the Committee was to make it so: that it was visual open space. Unfortunately,
the Committee didn't define it far, enough.
Mr. Buller stated that staff" brought three major issues for discussion and
were not asking for a decision. He pointed out that after this evening's
discussion Mr. DiIorio will make a decision as to whether to pursue a formal
application. He advised that staff would work with the applicant should he
want to pursue a formal submittal and bring the item before the Planning
Commission in a formal public hearing.
Planning Commission Minutes -1 ' February;11, 1987
Jim Frost, Rancho Cucamonga resident, stated that his concept was to encourage
some innovation and location of footprints, cluster of housing, oringing homes
together, and siding on lots to provide the illusion of openness something
that was visually accessible to all .
Commissioner Chi tiea stated that the developer should be sensitive to
equestrian use connecting up to other trails through the community.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he attended the Etiwanda Specific Plan
meetings and felt that the Etiwanda residents wanted the illusion of open
space.
Commissioner Emerick stated he would like to see open space along Summit, as
many of the existing trees saved as possible along the boundaries of the
parcel , and possibly an open space scheme of 5-10%. However, the plan doesn't
allow the concentration of density to bring the lots down slightly under
15,000 square feet if 5-10% open space is created on the parcel unless
something else is done with the plan.
Commissioner Barker asked how much flexibility is within the Etiwanda Specific
Plan.
Mr. Buller stated that staff interpreted the Plan to stated that once you
cross over the line of over two dwelling units per acre, 30% open space is
required. He advised twat staff could entertain the possibility of a gradient
or sliding scale, at the Commission's direction. He did not see that the
Etiwanda Plan prohibits that interpretation, but cautioned that once the
interpretation is made it sets a precedent in the review of other projects.
Mr. Kroutil stated that the use of a gradiation of density presumes that if
the 30% is met, 4 units per acre would be allowed. He pointed out that it may
not always work out because of a lot of other considerations.
Mr. Buller advised that staff would not recommend a straight sliding scale,
but one that is flexible with the Commission review on a project-by-project
basis.
Commissioner Tolstoy was concerned that the interpretation allow the
flexibility since he would not like to see development at the top of the range
with a mediocre project.
Commissioner Emerick stated that where the 30% open space works the best is in
the hillside area where 30% of the site that is the steepest would be left and
the concentration of the units on the remainder of the site. He felt that a
plan developed on flat land area such as this one seems to have a lot of
contrived open space.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he would like to see 30% open space but all
usable.
Planning Commission Minutes -12 February 11, 1987
Chairman Barker stated that even though the Commissioners have come at this
from different directions, they all agree as to the final outcome in that they
all want that feeling of open space, feeling of setback, and all want to he
able to step on it.
r. Dilorio stated to get that pure open space you either wind up with a
patched type product or you wind up with the central park concept and lots
that are approximately 450U square feet. Matnameticall,y, he advised that the
only other alternative is the one they had come up with.
Chairman Barker stated he felt there was some indication for a degree of
flexibility within conservative parameters
Co issioner Emerick stated that the central spine or park concept does not
give the visually accessible open space to the entire community. he 'stated
that ghat the Commission is saying :is for this particular site the O open
apace might not justify the granting of the bonus because it doesn't work.
There was no further discussion.
I. EUCALYPTUS BORER BEETLE PROBLEM
Jeff Barnes, Parks Supervisor, presented the staff report and slide
presentation,
Commissioner Tols o,y stated that for many years the City has discussed the
preservation of windrows. He was concerned that many of the trees that were
planted 50 years ago are in a weakened condition. Be was also concerned with
the replacement policy which provided replacement with another variety of
Eucalyptus 'since it is not known at this time if those varieties will also be
attacked by the beetle. He felt that the City should notify the citizens of
the Borer Beetle problem so that if an amendment needs to be made to the Tree
Preservation Ordinance in the future, they will have been alerted. He also
suggested that the City provide publicity that deep watering of the Eucalyptus
trees seems to deter Borer Beetle infestation.
It was the consensus of the Commission that staff look into ways to publicize
the Borer Beetle problem and also begin looking for alternate replacement
trees.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
J. ESTABLISHMENT OF WORKSHOP DATE - Staff recommends that workshop dates be
set for the o dwin r ears, esign Excellence Program, and Terra 'Vista
Architecture.
Planning Commission mute Februar :::I1., 1987
The Planning Commission selected he ted the
date Of February 6, 1 87" for� the above
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no Public
ants.
ADJOUNRMENT
Motion: 'laved b� Tolsta
adjourn. ,�� -seconded
y Emericko unanimously
12:45 a.m. - Planningto
Commission n
espedt�`ut�J submitted,
Adjourned.
carried,itted,
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Secretary
Planning Commission
Minutes -14
February 11, 1987
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
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Regular Meeting
January 28, 1987
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Chairman David Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Co fission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line ; Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California._ Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance,
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: E. David Barker, Susanne Chit ea, Bruce
Emerick, Larry McNiel , Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: Nome
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Bul l er, City Planner; Dana Coleman, Senior Planner;
Howard Fields, Assistant Planner; Nancy Fong, Associate
Planner, Greg Gage, Assistant Planer; Barrye Hanson,
Senior Civil Engineer; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney;
Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner; Janice Reynolds, Planning
Commission Secretary; Chris Wes an, Assistant Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the Planning Commissioners Institute
would be held March Ilth 'through the 13th. He asked the Commissioners to
inform staff as soon as possible if they would be able to attend the
conference.'
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -3 - TAG DEVELOPMENT -
eve oilmen an , square oo corporate—,an a finis ra Tive
office building with light storage facilities on 0.61 acres of land in the
Industrial Park District (Subarea E) located on the north side o
Trademark Sheet, 927 feet west of Haven Avenue - APN 210-381-6.
B. CT 10035 (DESIGN REVIEW) - RANCHO ASSOCIATES - Design Review of
uf hg e ova ions an p pans f o sing am ly lots on 15.7 acres
in the Low Density Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre),
located southeast of Red Hill Country Club, south of Cal l e Corazon - A H
07- 31-C1 through 23 'and '07-6 1-01. through 12.
C. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 19 - YAZ CAIH The review of
revs se o pan, wo new eva it ons an oor ohs Plan A2 and 8 to
replace the approved Plan A and Plan 8 for 20 lots of the total 26 lots,
n the Low Medium Residential District 48 dwelling units per acre)
located on the south side of Arrow Highway at Edwin Street - APN 207-222-
8.
C. TRAILS FENCING STANDARDS
Commissioner Tolstoy requested Item C be removed for discussion.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Chi ti ea, unanimously carried, to adopt
items 'A through C of the Consent Calendar.
D. TRAILS FENCING STANDARDS
Commissioner Tolstoy asked for more information about the proposed fencing
material . He rioted that PVC has been used in Heritage Park:. He questioned j
the durability of PVC and the fact that PVC is not rigid.
Commissioner Chitiea advised that one of the reasons PVC was chosen was
because of its flexibility which makes it safer for horses :and riders, She
stated that the manufacturer has given a 20 year guarantee for the fencing
material ; however, the material had net been tested for the -full 20 years a
t had not been out that long.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked the cost advantage of PVC.
Commissioner Chtiea stated that she believed PVC to be less expensive than
concrete; however, did not have the figures.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that answered has questions, however, he was still
concerned with the durability.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that the City Engineer advised that he might
have a contact by which the City could test the product; however, the testing
period would be approximately 6 months. He suggested that staff could have
the material tested and report back to the Planning Commission and Trails
Committee.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that it would be appropriate to test the
material . In the meantime, she suggested that PVC be required throughout the
City rather than continue with concrete, which has serious problems.
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Motion Moved by Tolstay, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to adopt
item D of the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
E. PARCEL MAP 5786 - MODIFICATION - CROWELL BROTHERS ® The request to
lation of a six C
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foot high masonry wall and additional landscaping along the south boundary
lino for an approved office park subdivision located at the southeast
corner of Base >Line Road and Carnelian Street - APN 207-031-28.
(Continued from December 10 19 )
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Dave Cooper, 521 N. Mountain, Upland, representing the applicant, objected to
the the condition to construct a block wall along the northern boundary and
planting of trees and vines along the eastern boundary of the Exchange site.
He believed these conditions to be excessive in that the entire site was
originally ;approved to include a separate building. He felt there was no
association between the site being ,created on Carnelian and the; pedestrian
access; problem at the southeasterly portion of the Exchange site. He pointed
out that the recordation of this parcel map ;is only necessary to sell the
separate site on Carnelian. He felt the applicant was being required to take
care of access problems which do net originate on this site, are not being
created by this site, and have no relationship to the potential use on
Carnelian, and felt this should not be the responsibility of this applicant to
mitigate. He advised that extensive landscaping was to be installed along the
eastern y boundary of the site by the City as part of the park site, which he
felt would help mitigate the pedestrian :access pro
blem.em. He stated that the
Exchange site was better landscaped than any other commercial project in the
City. He advised that additional requirements which would be cost prohibitive
to this project would possibly result in site not being developed, which would
be self-defeating in the City`s quest to establish a better tax base and
provide additional employment opportunities,
Chairman Barker stated that the original parcel map was approved subject to
certain conditions and asked if it was correct that the map is ;functioning
under those conditions at this time.
Mr. Buller replied that this was correct,
Chairman Barker asked was not the issue at one time that all of the conditions
of the original parcel map had not been met.
r. Buller replied that this was also correct and that one of the conditions
had been the subject walls on the south and east sides.
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Chairman Barker pointed that the action modification was a request on now before the Co i �on for �
approval , y the applicant to elf in to the condition f r
lea clarifiedthat i f the modification request
on nil conditions would ti i exist, of
as net approved, the
Commissioner 1Tol stay stated that he was on
the
ExchangeBuilding was originally reviewed the Commission at the time
amount of time was spent in mitigating and recalled that a considerable
the South. problems with the existing; houses
would At that time the Commission was satisfied that what to
provide those homeowners with the at would a done
appears that these original conditions were net carried privacy treaded; however, � now
Chairman Barker asked red out.
requests the applicant he was withdrawing his modification
parcel Magi van that he didn't agree to the conditions o approval
effect. He advised that the original conditionspp would
placed on
wool remain in
lr, Cooper stated that the applicant
a e g quest for aon gnat ly cage before the Ce i ssi on
requirement had b waiver of the wall requirement with
been nt
fu be
tf 11 ed since the site had been abut built accordinge felt that the
approved plans and more s a wall te
one southeasterly property lonel along all of theproperty to the
installed at that location because of the except for the
e advised that a wall had hot been
felt that the requirement had bash stet and the a
the ber�nin at drat location,
the foot block wall along the southerly boa e
wa�ved� applicant was requesting that
hoary o the; Exchange site be
Mitchell' i tech, llg Cal urea Court,
landscaping has not heart al a nod Rancho Cucamonga,
e advised that two more trees had blown g stated that the
y the developers of the Exchange sits.
over during the recent wind star"
replaced. He and ping had been damaged duringors
and that the landscaping
that his family had been threatened b
access through their property ..and f other Storms and not begin
acmes through
of the ark. felt the situation would e worserwith t taking
e urged the Commission to require the b he
Originallyoet conditioned.
block wall as
Linda Hirsh g Caluma Count,
problem i s with the Parking lot of the Rancho namon a
park in is lotwith at night, She ;did g � stated that part of the
ge and indicated that cars often
provide the necessaryof feel that additional landscaping would
conditions for ;bloc wall safety
for her popery and supported the original
Mr. Cooper stated that the block wall was an
and was not a problem emotional issue of the Hir°sc
wished to build on or create y the Exchange or the h s
pedestrian access' across the Hi sch He stated that. this sit parcel
dthet applicant
lot was required to have a certain property.
��rt ease
trequirements and that that the southeasterlylie stated that the peeing
mbar of parting spaces
pariner City
g lot get very little use
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Commissioner Emerick suggested suggested the original condition be retained
which stated that a problem exists with respect to pedestrian access to the
south and for this reason the City wants to secure that location with a fence
going along the entire length of the property. He suggested this condition be
placed on the approval of the newest parcel map.
Commissioner c Vi el pointed out this condition would not cover "landscaping
along the eastern boundary.
'r. Buller stated that if the Commission' s intent is to add landscaping in
addition to the wrought iron pilaster fencing along the east property line,
the resolution should be modified to require extensive landscaping and
fencing. He advised that Staff did not feel extensive- landscaping was
necessary there due to the landscaping being provided by the park site.
Commissioner McNiel asked if the consideration was for a wrought iron and
pilaster wall along the southerly portion as well , or if that wall would be a
continuation of the existing block retaining ►al l
Commissioner Emerick clarified that his intent was to require the applicant to
construct a wrought iron fence with pilasters along the entire east property
line going from the southeast corner: of the property all the way north to the
existing wrought iron fencing being created by the adjoining property. Along
the south property line, his intent was to require the applicant to construct
a masonry gall the length of the irsch's; property and then have the applicant
fill in with landscaping in these spaces where landscaping is not adequate at
the present time.
r. Buller advised that condition 2 requires a masonry wall between the
Hi rsch's property ending at their western property line and goes to this
subject rcel ' s eastern property line. He further advised there is existing
fencing from the western portion of where the new block wall would be
constructed all the way to Carnelian.
Commissioner McMi el stated his concern with the fence traveling west towards
Carnelian. His concern was that the proposed ;block wall connect with another
existing fence to make one continuous fence.
Commissioner Tolstoy' stated that the block wall will connect to the existing
chain link fence'.
Commissioner merick, stated that the landscaping along the eastern side
appeared spotty, and suggested the possibility of requiring a landscaping plan
along the east property line subject to approval by the City Planner.
r. Buller suggested; the use of bougainvillea as in condition 3a might be of
help to discourage that access
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oti on: Moved by Emeri dk, seconded by Chi ti ea,, to adopt the Resolution
approving the modification with the following amendments: installation of a
masonry fence required along the south property line along the Hi rsch's lot,
submittal of a landscaping plan along the southern property line to fill in
the existing landscaping subject to City Planner approval , a wrought iron
fence with pilasters required along the east property line from the southeast
corner going north to the existing wrought iron fence, submittal of a
landscape plan subject to the City Planner' s approval along the east property
line. Deletion of condition 3a and inserting language modifications, and
deletion of condition 14 from the exception list. ti on carried by the
following vote-
AYES: COMMISSIONERS E ERIC , CHITIEA, ;BARKER, MCNIEL,, TCLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
,ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 10238 - CUCAMONGA COUNTY WATER
DISTRICT su vis1on o acres oT landin o parce s in oo
on ro designation located on the northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard
and San Diego Avenue - APN 207-1O1-43. (Continued from January 14, 1987
Chairman Barker announced that the Planning Commission was in receipt of a
AM letter requesting withdrawal of this item until completion of the Foothill
Boulevard Corridor Study.
O. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 84-21 TA LOMA C RISTIA
reques o convert ah ex s ng , square foot-single amp
residence to an office for the Alta Loma Christian Church on .25 acres of
land in the boar Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre)
located on the west side of Sapphire, across from Orange - APN 1062-332-
23. (Continued from January 14, 1987
Chairman Barker announced that staff requested a continuance of this item.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that staff was recommending continuance of
for a period of 30- S days in order to allow the applicant time to complete
some outstanding items of their Conditional Use Permit relative to grading and
reseeding of property immediately to the north of the existing building. He
pointed out that some grading has occurred and the applicant would soon o
reseeding the site. As soon as staff was notified that the reseeding had
occurred, the item would be rescheduled.
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Commissioner Mc i el stated that if the applicant reseeds within the next few
days all of their efforts may be lost as a result of the potential February
rains. He suggested that the reseeding might be delayed until after that time
period.
Chairman Barker opened the public aearin .
A representative of the church advised that the reseeding would be done as
soon as the grading was completed. He concurred with a continuance to the
second meeting in March.
William Unles, 675 Sapphire, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that irrigation was
required under the original conditions of approval , however had never been
installed. He suggested that this also be addressed and questioned why this
condition was not enforced in 1983.
Chairman Barker stated that these issues would be addressed at the time of the
public hearing in March.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded;by Mc Niel , to continue the public hearing
the Time Extension for Conditional Use Permit 84-21 to the Planning Commission
meeting of March 25, 1987. Staff was directed to research the irrigation
issue.
UU p.m. - Planning Commission Recessed
8:1 p.m. - Planning Commission Reconvened
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT Hb-USA KA EER -
regdds o amen a an se ElWeht 6f7enera-!-PT-anfrom Floud
Control to Low Medium Density Residential (4-8 dwelling units per acre)
for 40 acres of hand located at the southwest corner of the extensions of
Banyan and Milliken - APN 01- 71-SS. (Continued from January 14, 1987)
Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner, presented the staff report,
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Alvin Kaufer, applicant, 445 South Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, stated that
when he decided to sell this property it was insisted that the ;buyer agree
that they would propose something for the entire parcel that would be
consistent with the surrounding area. He believed that by making such ,a
requirement, when it came before the Commission it would be favorably
received. He felt that K&B had submitted a proposal that is consistent with
the surrounding area and urged the Commission's favorable consideration of
their ;proposal . He stated there should be some method to assure that the
developers would develop the site as proposed, and offered his assistance as
the property owner to the Commission.
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Chairman Barker was concerned with the impacts on grading and the lot
widths. He advised that the City would not allow any more developments where
the primary focus of:the s re t c pe is garage doors. He did not consider Low
Medium to he an appropriate designation; however would entertain 'a different
density and believed the total pac a e should be looked at by; the Commission.
Commissioner Tol stay ;agreed and further Mated that the biggest problem with
the higher density is the slope. He concurred that the grading, drainage, and
garage door issues are very important, He stated that higher density is
something we have too much of in the City
Motion: Moved by Chi ti ea, seconded by McNiel , to recommend denial of
Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment o- A to the City I
Council . Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA CNIEL, BARKER, EMERICR TOLSTCY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ONE -carried
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENUMENT 7-01A - CITY 4F
n' app ica 'on o amen e an sd even d e
ahem an` rom Office to either Lew Residential (2-4 dwelling units per
arcre) or Low-Medium Residential (4-8 dwelling units per acre) for 1. 1
acres of land at the northeast corner of San Bernardino Road and Carnelian
Street APN; 0 - 9- 9, 32, 60, 74, 77.
Otto Kroutil , Senior planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what is proposed for Lot 77 and how many owners are
associated with 'these 1 ots.
r . Kroutil referred the question to the property owner' s representative.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Steve Lucas, 949 Apricot, Rancho Cucamonga, representing the property owner,
stated that all of these parcels and the 4-acre site adjacent to the east are
owned by the same person and have been for over 30 ,years. He gave an overview
of the history of the property. The position of the property owner was that a
buffer is deeded between the commercial 'on the south side of San Bernardino
Road and the residences on the north side. To place more residential units in
that area or an increase to the density he did not consider Bauch of a
buffer. He felt an office use nicely landscaped and maintained would be a
nice visual use of the site and a visual buffer between the more and less
intensive uses. He stated that the site on the south side is not ;lust a
commercial use behind the winery, it is the winery site. It is a 10 acre site
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and is going to be awfully hard to develop because of the Ci ty' s wishes to
maintain the historical facilities® He felt that residences across the street
would create more problems and additionally the corner is a bad location for
residential because of the traffic at the intersection. He advised that the
owner was not comtenplating selling this office site separate of the
residential piece adjacent to it and that piecemeal development of the site is
not contemplated.
Commissioner Tol stoy asked if tni s particular piece of property is zoned for
office, was the intent that the existing houses would be eliminated and the
entire site master planned as one parcel .
Mr. Lucas advised that this is the intent of the property owner. He suggested
the possibility of a lot line consolidation as a guarantee, which would be
consistent with the property owners intent.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that whether this General Plan Amendment
goes forward as suggested or the site remains Office Professional , a lot
consolidation into one lot would be a wise choice and encouraged the applicant
pursue that course of action.
There were no further comments, therefore' the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Ch tiea stated that Mr. Lucas's arguments regarding; the use of
the site in terms of desirability make a lot of sense. From a traffic
standpoint, single family homes would be desirable to minimize impacts to San
Bernardino Road; however, she couldn't imagine anyone wanting to live there.
She supported the concept of master planning this piece of property and the
consolidation of lots. She felt the landscaping going up Carnelian to Hemlock
eight make a much better window on that corner. Based on these
considerations, she suggested the site remain Office Professional .
Commissioner McNiel stated that he could not picture an office building
setting on than corner; however, felt that a' restaurant might not be a bad
idea. He felt it would be to the property owner's advantage to ; go to
residential to al 1 ow for the possibility of a restaurant use.
Commissioner Tol sto,y stated that tow Medium Residential would be the beat
interest of the land as long as it was master planned as one lot. He felt the
site should be master planned even with a commercial designation and stated it
would be essential to get the separate parcels into one large usable piece.
He felt Low Medium would be the best use for that piece of property and
provide a better transition with the adjacent properties'.
Commissioner Emerick concurred with Commissioner Tolstoy that Low Medium would
e the appropriate designation."
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Chairman Barker pointed out that the lot directly south of this site is the
winery which he hoped would be developed in some thematic design and would be
commercial . He stated he could see a restaurant on that site, but coul do"t
see the site used for office, He felt It would be an an uncomfortable
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designation, he would be inclined to support that designation.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked how the residences on Hemlock would be protected
from the parking lot situation that is going to occur; with a restaurant on
this site.
Chairman Barker stated that it would not be easy; however, he felt the
situation could be mitigated. His major concern is that he- didn't know too
many people who would want to live on that site given the lights and noise of
traffic on Carnelian. He pointed out that these issues would also have to be
mitigated with residential development.
Motion: Moved by McNi el , seconded by Chi ti ea, to recommend denial of General
Plan Amendment 87-01A to the City Council . Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS MCNIEL, CHITI A, BARKER
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: EMERICk, TOL TOY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NO
NE -carried
J. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT 12870 4 ANDERSON - A
resi en a su tvs on' o cos om s an one rema n er parce on 66.9
acres of
l anal �n the Ver
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.y entail District (less than dwelling
units per acre, "located on the north side of Highland Avenue between
Etiwanda and East Avenges - APN 12, 13, 19, 20, 21, and 30.
In addition, the applicant h'as requested a Tree Removal Permit to remove
two ( ) east-west Eucalyptus windrows and one (1) north-south Eucalyptus
windrow.
Howard Fields, Assistant Planner, presented the staff' report.
Commissioner Chitiea advised that the Trails Committee reviewed this tract and
determined that the crossings proposed on a very busy street would be unsafe,;
therefore, the Committee revised their recommendations for the circulation to
include only one crossing at that street. She pointed out this this decision
would be A-typical of the intent of the Committee in terms of internal
ci rcul ai on.
Chairman Barker opened ;the public hearing,
Tony Mize, representing the applicant, gave an overview of the project.
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Commissioner Chitiea stated; that the windrows are beautiful as they exist and
liked to see preserved whenever possible. She concurred, however, with the
statements of the other Commissioners and thought that future people will
still have the beauty of the windrows with the replacement ent trees and Eti wanda
will again retain the windrow effect it has today. She further stated that
from a ;safety and liability standpoint, she would support the amorist and
staff recommendations.
Chairman Barker asked if a report by another arbrist as suggested by Mrs.
Al l erton would make any difference in the Commissioner's opinion of this
project
It was the concurrence of the Commission that a second arbori st would not be
necessary.
Chairman Barker recalled that there was somewhat of a tradeoff with this
development in that the developer could have increased the density
considerably in this project; however, this particular design reduces the
density to much less than what it could have been. He felt them had been
sensitivity attempted in the maintenance of three east-west major branches of
the windrows and an interesting bit of sensitivity in that the trees are being
planted now so that they will develop some size when the freeway does go in.
He stated that he did not like to see trees removed; however, in this
particular instance he agreed with rest of Commission.
Motion: Moved by " olstoy, seconded by Emerick, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Tentative Tract 12870. otion carried by the following vote.
AYES COMMISSIONERS TOL TOY, EMERICK, BARKER, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT, COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
r. Buller advised that notices for this meeting were mailed on January 15,
1987.
Chairman Barker asked if the site was posted with 4' 8' signs.
Mr Buller advised that the site was ; not posted with the lame notification
signs; however, 6 public hearing placards were placed on the property.
Chairman Barker stated that in Etiwanda the removal of trees is a sensitive
issue and sites within that area should be posted with 48 signs.
r', Buller asked if that direction would include any subdivision in Etiwanda.
Chairman Barker stated that a subdivision of any size in Etiwanda, should be
posted.
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Commissioner Chltiea added that sites which include historical trees or
something on the site that would be of interest to the Commission should also
be posted.
Commissioner Tolstoy advised that later in the meeting he intended to propose
that the Commission go back and look at; the Tree Ordinance in light of the
beetle which has come to our area and is destroying Eucalyptus trees.
K. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE 86-08 - SPETNA EL - A request to
wad ve a maximum e7 regu remen ee tar radio antenna
to allow n existing antenna 5C feet in height to a extended to 7Q feet
on a sore parcel 1 n the Very Low Residential District (less than
�w 1 i tig units per acr4e 1 ocate at Carol Avenue - ARN 1 1-1 1
Greg Gage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Emerik asked if the regulations are 35 why the applicant has an
existing 54 foot antenna.
r. Gage advised that the antenna was installed without the Cit 's review or
approval
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing;
Charles Spetnagel , 5327 Carol Avenue, stated that on May 29, 1986 he attempted
o secure a building permit for a 35 foot antenna tower. His intent was to
erect the tower and then seek permission to construct the tower to the height
e desired, The Planning Division and Engineering Divisions both approved his
application and signed off on the building permit form. Building and Safety
informed him that his drawings for the footings were unacceptable and the
tower would have to be installed as if it were a flag pole. He was told that
the depth of the footing would have to be 1 foot for every 2ifeet in height.
He informed Building and Safety that this was ridiculous and that the drawings
were done by a reputable erector of commercial and amateaur towers. He became
frustrated and cancelled the application and obtained a refund of permit
foes, He advised that the tower is of proven design and has been on the
market for over 20 years and the footings are capable of supporting towers up
to 300 feet in height.. He acknowledged that the City has legitimate health,
safety and welfare concerns but the footings were installed per manufacturers
instructions. These instructions had been reviewed and approved by
registered civil; engineer licensed in the state of California. He stated that
his station operates under automatic control as a relay station available 24
hours a day for amateurs in four counties. He felt that an extraordinary
condition does exist, that a nonconformity ; does not exist, consequently
nothing was self-imposed and the only special privilege was his privilege to
operate an amateur radio station. He indicated th
at
t staff fails` to address
the exclusion of public service, public welfare, and emergency radio from
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height restrictions. He felt his supporting documents proved that part of the
justification of the amateur radio service is to provide emergency
communication and an amateur radio is continuously involved in public service
activities. He Mated that his request for 70 feet is the minimum height
required to accommodate reasonable communication on the frequencies on which
he operates.
Chairman Barker questioned the height of the tower.
r.. 5petnagel advised that the tourer is 50 feet in height:
Chairman Barker asked if a vertical antenna was placed on top of that height.
r petnagel replied that this Was correct and that he used a high frequency
agi antennae
Commissioner Emerick asked Mr. 5petnagel if he had any feedback from his
neighbors as far as the current antennas.
Mr. 5petnagel' stated that he contacted the three properties directly abutting
his and those property owners indicated no objections to the tower. He
indicated that he had poled Dan and Hiedi Burns, Thomas and Martha Stanton and
Betty and Don Anderson.,
Commissioner Emerick asked if the height of the antenna; would impinge upon
anyone's view of the mountains.
r» Spetnagel stated that he didn't feel the tourer would impinge any more than
the current transmission lines.
Commissioner Toltoy asked if Mr. Spetnagel was prepared to show the
Commission what is planned for the top of the tower.
r 5petnagel replied he was not and indicated that, this information had not;
been requested before tonight.
Chairman Harker asked if Mr. Spetnagel considered crank up antennas when this
equipment was purchased
r. Spetnagel advised that he had owned this tourer for a number of years.
Wayne Cverveck, 900 Avenida Salvatore, San Clemente, professor of:
communications, California Mate University Fullerton, supported the
applicant's request. He presented slides which he felt illustrated why a
radio amateur would want a high antenna. He stated that what amateaur radio
is all about is emergency communication, which is why the FCC has recently
issued an order pyre-emting local regulations that unreasonably restrict and
deny reliable amateaur communications.
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Chairman Barker: asked since this particular piece of property is located at
the northern part of Alta Loma on a slope what kind of impact would that
location have on the signal 's angle of entry.
r. Overveck advised that a location on a slope working in the uphill
direction raises the angle and makes communication more difficult. In the
downhill direction, it makes long distance communication easier because the
angle is lowered by the terrain.
Chairman Barker asked if Mr. Overveck was an expert on antennas.
r. Overveck advised that he had written a book and a number of ,journal
articles on antennas.
Chairman Barker asked if there were any advantages of self supporting towers
over the crank up antennas.
Mr. Overveck advised that this is a question of economics. A self supporting
tower is more expensive. A typical model crank up guyed tower is a much less
expensive tower.: A crank up tower that is self supporting and could meet the
i ty's code of stayingbelow 35 feet and going up to 5U' feet would be quite a
bit more expensive than one that doesn't telescope without guy wires.
Commissioner olstoy questioned the 80 Rueter frequency and asked if it was
correct that there are other frequencies for emergency communications.
Mr. Overveck stated that there are other frequencies for emergency
communication. He advised that the applicant proposes to communicate on 'a
variety of different frequencies. Each of the various frequency bands have
different propagation characteristics. 80 meters comes up sometimes because
historically during the Mexico City earthquake it was used extensively for
long distance night time communication.
Commissioner Tol'stoy asked the communication distance of 80 meters at night.
Mr. Overveck advised that the operator would be capable of : world wide
communication assuming conditions are reasonable.
Tony Petrone, 125 Morgan Way, Upland, supported the request. He pave an
overview of the emergency communications aspect of amateaur radios.
Ronald Verdon, 6068 Ada Court, Chino, supported the applicant's request and
pave an overview of emergency communications.
Dan Burns, 5321 ;Carol , adjacent property ;owner stated that he had no problems
with Mr. etnael "s antenna as presently constructed. He did not feel the
presence of the antenna would affect property values.
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Sandy Spetnagel wife of the applicant, supported the request® She advised
that the Spetnagels work with the Boy Scouts and urged the Commission's
support of'the request.
,d Combs, 7027 Val i na, Rancho Cucamonga, staters that he felt the tower could
be seen at the 35 foot height, therefore could not understand the height
concerns. He stated; that Mr. Spetnagel has one of the best sites in the area
for the private radio tower.
The following individuals addressed the Commission in opposition to the
Variance request based on aesthetic concerns, interferrence with television
reception and loss of property values
John Waymeier, 8149 Lucinda
Click Miles, 5252 Sapphire
Barbara Frye, 5327 Della
Penny Senro, dldl. Lucinda
Jeff Frye, '5327 Della
Sonny Senzari o, 8181 Lucinda
Tom Arme o, 5249 Carpal
Cheryl Ward, 8153 Lucinda
Elliott Cousins, 8214 Lucinda
Ethel Waymeier, 81.49 Lucinda
Commissioner Chi ti ea asked the applicant if he was only person with a tower - n
the West End area,
`r. Spetnagel advised that he was not.
Commissioner Chi ti ea asked if ;there are other people communicating on these
frequencies.
r. Spetnagel assumed there are. He rebutted the comments grade during the
public hearing by stating that the existing tower was erected ten months ago,
and clarify that it was installed the last creek end in ,August 1986. As he
previously stated, he attempted to obtain a building permit but 'felt he was
getting no where therefore decided to pursue another course of action. He
advised that since these proceedings, he had spoken to the City's Building and
Safety Department again and asked them what the requirements were for
footings. He indicated he met those requirements. He had a California
License cense Civil Engineer's calculations and data sheets signed off by him and
was not concerned that this tower is unsafe in its present condition or at the
proposed height. He advised that he visited Scott Cable, who furnishes cable
for this area, and was informed that entire system outages as well as section
outages during the past few months were due to the merger of Scott Cable with
Acton Cable. Further, that Scott Cable agreed to conduct test if complaints
of interference continues to '. verify that Mr. Spetnagel 's station is not
i nterferri ng with the cable system. He also verified ;that he had no cable
channels operating on frequencies assigned to the amateaur radios. he felt
that objections to his station regarding aesthetics are subjective. if
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aesthetics alone are allowed to dictate
in the neigirborhaod e what structures are or
to the Color a , then everyone shouldhave the right
on, neighbor paints his houseare not allowed
the t to raise objections type of shrubs planted and so
i meriCommissioner used if
y prior td erecting the tower.
Spetnagel mentioned h had
r Spetnagel replied that he did, ontacted the
Commissioner Emerfc questioned how many times the City had been contacted.
r. Spetnagel advised that he had conta
Comm issipner cted the pity once.
Commissions. meric asked if
r. Spetnagel was "informed of the
Mr. Spetnagel advised that he was provided height
the Development Code,
with a copy of Section .60 of
Commissioner Emerick ported out to
feet height standard at is the Code
apparatus that for a stationery tower section that provides for S
goes up or down ano l,S feet additional
r, Spetnagel Mated that for an
contended that his stations available
the conflict was is
24 the terra when in use, He
Commissioner merick asked hors a day¢
if fir, Spetnagel was hems 24 hours a day.
r. Spetnagel stated he was not. Ffowe
e operated numerous times curio
g the day
his station is operating and could
Commissioner mer�ic Spetnagel asked if Mrs.
else i ne family had the ability operates the r
y to operate the radio, ad�o� or if anyone
r• Spetnagel replied that neither his wife
ability to operate the radio. nor the rest Of
the family has the
Commissioner
Amer a
c
asked If Mr. Spetnagelhad a 40 hour a week
r Spetnagel replied that it wa ,fob.
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_s
Chairman Barer asked if the more.: than: hours a
station transmits all tooperating.
ek}
e time.
term was operable or opeCa ti ra
g• a asked if the
r. 'Spetnagel ;stated that the station i
not operating
capable of repeating digital transmissions.
all the time. but it
Chairman darker asked f r. �ons, i s
r. >
S
pesos e
was as recording
the messages.
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r. Spetnagel replied that the messages are not recorded; however, they are
stored in a buffer if he cares to access it.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if this is a repeater station,
. Spetnagel replied that it is.
a of thatpacket
Chairman Barker asked i other units depend:. on the existence
tence
digit peter to continue to function during the day.
Mr. Spetnagel Mated that on its present frequency
he hasAngeles reception basin,t Palm
Springs and Hemet that repeats both ways i the Cos
ange
County, and along the coast line up to LAX.
Commissioner Chi ti ea recalled that Mr. Spetnagel
id he decided contacted
athe Ci tyd
once and because of the information he receive he
build his tower. She questioned why he didn't approach someone else or try to
go through proper channels
There were no further co ent , therefore the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Barer stated he would like to try and eliminate
li s on which i t some
of the
he side
a
issues so the Commission could identify the real issue
decision. As fare as the television �f the applicant's equi pment other interference with
i s od
high
fidelity equipment, he indicated that
equipment and the neighbors equipment is good equipment there should not be a
problem. He pointed out that traditionally am e ethe gon t of work hour
eir
w to notify their neighbors that they are available to help p
problems so that their reputation as ham operators
o suggested remains t verythe hi i psi He not
did
not think interference was a major issue sugg
address that issue. He stated the reason for the discussion of the various
types and designs of antennas was because
otaah concern
types of thanten safety
ys facto
can rs.
The winds are emphatic and sometimes
be
dangerous. Aesthetics is important but he felt there was a technical point to
be addressed which is that there can be an antennadoes not meet thosetswhichrds
can
crank up to 50 feet. This particular antenna there
e advised that he had looked through recent antenna
down a sales 1 an as d feet is
number o antennas which can reach 50 fee which
g t
depressed state. He felt the two 'issues to be addressed are; is this an
unusual enough situation to warrant a variance, was there n o uandei s
available which could have been purchased and placed into operation,
the regulation itself in need of being evaluated.
commissioner Emerick stated that obstruction of view
of shouldbe
addressed owner not
s
froman aesthetic point but froma property right pnt property
entitled to a certain view right of the mountains and the valley. An
obstruction of that view impinges upon someone else°s property rights.
Commissioner McNi el disagreed. He suggested that the Commission act on the
issue of the illegal antenna.
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Commissioners Emerick and Tol stay stated their opinion that
Variance and if the necessary findings could be met to approve
issue was the
Chairman darker suggested that the: Commissioners pp a variac ,
findings to see if they could be metago through each of the
Commissioner Emerick addressed finding one and stated
zoningdistrict should e treated equally unless they can
situation. a say no hardship in tha show a hardship
t everyone 1n a
p this situation in that the applicant could
move his antenna to another location or implement some mitigation such as a tower 3S feet station ,
w stationary w measure
r, .y, with ; s
h a that's not high enough to meet the required specifications as faras length of
radio beam, so be it. f
The Commissioners concurred.
Chairman Barker suggested there are a number of alternative
that could be used. which would comply with the ;Ci ty's code requirements.
,ypes of antennas
asked that finding be addressed, eguir eats He
Commissioner Emerick stated there has been no show'
exceptional or extraordinary circumstances associated with hi s at there are
applicant lives in the foothills of the City and there he is
request. The
n advantage and a disadvantage. The disadvantage is going faces ill herb
the radio angle is increased; the disadvantage is that t g down h11 where
on the uphill mountain side. He stated that this is not a unique
that there are literally hundreds of other a angle is decreased
of the foothills. er houses in that same stratio property
ion
With respent to finding 3, he did not concur that there was
a deprivation of privileges enjoyed by others. The 35 foot standard
towers applies to everyone in the City. nand for fixed
this variance i s granted to allow a higher tower up g to 70 fee , he stated i f
granting a special privilege that can't be demonstrated b an of
presented in this hearing, t, that would be
the facts
Motion: Moved y Emerick seconded by Chitiea, to
Motion carried by the follow" vote. deny Variance 86-07.
AYES. COMMISSIONERS EMERICK, CHITIEA, BARKER
MC IEt, TCIT#lY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
-carried
Chairman Barker directed staff to conduct a surveyof
market and the names of the manufactures to assure that there
the materials on the
types of towers that fir within the framework of t are apprppriate
regulations. he Ci ty s current
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Commissioner Tot stay asked what would be the disposition of the illegal tower.
Mr. Buller advised that staff will proceed with Code Enforcement action and
the applicant will be given a, reasonable time to abate the antenna.
Commissioner Chitiea commented that one trip to the City that ends with
something a person is not happy with should not be cause to go out and do what
ever that person wants to do because they are not happy with information that
has been given to them. She advised that there are other approaches and other
avenues to take.
10:55 p.m. - Planning Commission Recessed
11:05 p.m. - Planning Commission Reconvened
NEW BUSINESS
L. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT 86-210 - TAYLOR - Appeal of staff's decision
enying "o—m-e--TFccupation Pe it 15 815"alachite Avenue (Continued from
January 14, 1987)
Greg Gage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker invited public= comment. The applicant for this item was not
in attendance; therefore, it was the consensus of the Commission to continue
the item for two weeks.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
continue Home Occupation Permit 86-210 to the Planning Commission meeting of
February 11, 1987.
M. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 86-4111- ARICAL PROPERTIES - The development of a 47,392
square oo -s dryoffice building on-"". 4 acres of land in the Haven
Avenue Overlay District (Subarea 61 of the Industrial Specific Plan,
located at the northeast corner of Haven and 6th Street - APN 209-411-15.
Chris es an, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker invited public comment.
Ralph Hastings, project architect, concurred with the findings of the
Resolution and conditions of approval .
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving Development Review 86-41. Motion carried by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA, TIIL TOY, BARKER, E ERICI , MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
N. BAIT AND TACKLE STORE IN SUBAREA
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker was concerned with this procedure in that it may establish a
precedence and people will begin coming before the Commission for pre-
Conditional Use !Permit review before coming up with the formal permit request.
Commissioner Totstay 'asked if parking requirements would be impacted by this
use.
Brad Buller;, City Planner, advised that this issue would be considered when a
Conditional Use permit application is submitted.
Commissioner Emerick shared Chairman Barker's concern that this type of review
may be doubling the amount of items coming before the Commission in that they
would be asked for advisory opinions every time someone has a doubt' as to
their chances of obtaining a Conditional Use Permit. He preferred to have
staff give their best assessment of the situation based upon facts given to
them by the applicant and then the applicant should be required to make his
application and go before the Commission for their, decision, He agreed that
right now there aren't enough concrete facts before the' Commission as far a
hours of operation and many other issues.
Commissioner Chitiea concurred and advised that the reason for public hearings
is to receive input that the Commission will not receive at this time. She
felt it would not be appropriate to give someone an indication at this time
that the use might be appropriate when information received later at a public
hearing might make a totally different decision.
Commissioner Eerick stated that since the applicant is before the Commission
at this time, he should be allowed to give his presentation,_ but that future
applicants be discouraged from this type of review if all of the facts are not
pre
sented.anted.
,
Commissioner Chi ti ea disagreed that the item should be discussed at this time
and pointed out that in the past developers have asked for advisory opinions
and were told that type of review was inappropriate. She did not wish to give
advise without all the information.
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Commissioner Mc gel stated he would agree that this applicant could
presentation, but it should be established that this type of review will not
be given again.
Commissioner' Tolstoy
st
ated
tonight is not going toe influence the t fihnal decision because ould be warned t all anything s Of aid
information is not available and the Commission will not beprovilded the
Public input at this hearing, p with
Mr. and Mrs. Lub-och stated that they were not aware that they were ask
special consideration by the Commission. Ong for
Chairman Barker asked what percent of the business is going to consi
retail sales of i ors the applicant does not nufacture, st o the
Mrs. Luboch advised that she would estimate 50 percent. She advised
large back room was required for the assembly work that is done on- k that a
s te.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if by manufacture, the applicant was making
or if parts were obtained by another means and assembled at their business.
Mrs. Luboch advised they would be getting parts and assembling and further
stated that they would be a custom fishing rod dealer.
Chairman Barker questioned why this location was selected instead o
locations which would be approved for retail sales, f other
Mrs. Luboch advised that this location was selected ted Guastt becaus
e se of its
s proximity
Mr. Buller clarified that staff felt this strip of land was in
provide commercial uses than tended to
advised that staff was seeking the Commission'seiter to he industrial uses ; fie
bait and tackle shop is consistent with that direction.
as to whether a
Commissioner Chi ties stated if they manufacture on the premises then
them in a commercial area would not be appropriate either because . putting
not have the space to manufacture. She suggested that the flip sidets would
considered, if we don't p should
Put be
p them here in type of situations is it
appropriate to put them in a commercial gone.
Commissioner Chitiea stated the question is does the Commission want
the center continue in the present direction of strip commercial , or to let
back to its original use. turn it
Commissioner Cmerick stated it might be appropriate to recognize re
rezone it or broaden the uses allowed. g a i ty and
Commissioner McNiel thought it was a great idea but didn't know if this
right location; ;however, he didn't find. this to be an offensive locations the
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Chairman Barker stated from what he heard, it would be a concurrence that
applicant the should apply for a Conditional Use Permit. ,
Buller advised that staff would be asking the applicant for a full
disclosure as to the extent of the use and would ask the applicant to address
the question of what percentage of the use is in the category of light
wholesale, storage and distribution or custom manufacturing.
Commissioner McNiel stated that close attention should be paid to public
health and safety issues for whatever type of nuisance factor would be
generated for the adjacent businesses.
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
O`. AWARDS FOR DESIGN EXCELLENCE PROGRAM UPDATE'
1
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the report.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that the project be identified on the award
plaque.
Commissioner Emerick suggested that if a person wins the award, provisions
should be made to allow the recipient, at his own expense, to get an
enlargement of the emplem to afix on the outside of the building.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that the entire Commission
.should be involved in this Committee. Staff is to return with possible
workshop dates.
P. SAN SEVAI E/CTIWANDA PLANNING AREA; WORKSHOP - This item has been
re erne y e esTj ev ew o eeI is requested that a Workshop
be scheduled ;for full Commission review and policy direction.
The applicant for this item was not in attendance; therefore, it was the
consensus of the Commission that the item be continued to the February 11
1987 meeting.
Q. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 8 -04 - TOWER PARTNERS EDWARDS CINEMA) - The request
Fo
o o y a approve a eva' on, y eliminating a requ `red reveal , for
a theatre located at the northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Haven
Avenue.
Howard Fields, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
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Chairman Barker invited public comment.
David Michael , project developer, gave a history of the situation. He advised
that he planned to determine some alternative that the Planning Commission
• time is
h reveal
t this might cons der. e did not feel that putting �n the
necessarily the correct thing to do. He felt the intent of the reveal had
been satisfied, but also understood that it is clearly a condition of approval
and understood that the condition could not just be omitted. He introduced
Glen Gellatly to present the alternative
Glen Gellatly, Bissell Architects, presented the alternative to use a 2 inch
by one inch annodi zed gold aluminum channel and applying that in a horizontal
fashion not unlike the trim that acts as the housing for the lighting tract.
He felt that would be an element that could tie those two items together
visually and yet look like it was always meant to bethat way.
David Michael "stated that to try to retrofit the reveal in to correct the
mistake and to put a gold band around the building would not accomplish
anything. He offered a second alternative to contribute a set amount to the
historical committee allow them to purchase artifacts, decorations, and
displays for use within the grape crusher building. He suggested that
dollar amount could be placed on what it would cost to address the reveal
issue.
Chairman Barker agreed that to retrofit the reveal would be a bandaid approach
to the problem and was concerned that which goes on will come off. He
suggested that another means of architectural enhancement might be used as an
alternative and suggested one alternative might be the lowering of the light
lumens. he felt those things that impact the total of the area should be
addressed. He stated he would be willing to continue this item to allow the
applicant to come up with specifics on those kind of alternatives.
Commissioner Tolstoy hesitated to enter into any kind ofare ent which looks
like a buyoff e thought the issue to be addressed by the developer is what
is going to enhance the building in question.
Chairman Barker stated he would prefer that alternatives not just address the
building in question, but some architectural enhancement to the total of the
project.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if there was an architectural feature or element
unique to this development that ties the entire center together.
Mr. Gellatly advised that the tower element was introduced on the theater and
the quadafoil was introduced in the tower, which were reoccurring themes,
along with the trellis work at either side of the building.
Commissioner of stoy asked if the reveal was a part of tying the buildings
together.
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r, Gel l atly replied that the reveal was required to create a logical line to
make a color change. The reason for the color change was to 'reduce the visual
appearance scale of the building.
Mr. Buller advised that originally there was a furring detail which took a
portion of the wall and projected it out from the rest of the wall . It was at
the request of the applicant that the detail be deleted. In the discussion of
that detail , the 3/4;inch reveal was introduced as a compromise. The original
intent of the design of the theater was to have a furring detail for this
lower color band which set out from the other. One of the elements which also
ties the buildings together is the unique stucco texture.
Chairman Barker suggested the architectural enhancement be of equal weight.
e stated he would be willing to entertain that kind of compromise.
Commissioner McNiel stated that for the developer to go back and cut a reveal
creates an ;opportunity for water to get in and they would have a great deal of
trouble as a result.
r. Buller stated that one of the unifying elements of the center has been the
trellis work. The color change and furring detail were intended to help break
up the scale of the wall . proposed are two office buildings on either side of
the theater. The building to the north has been reviewed by the Commission
and there is to be some type of courtyard plea area between the two
buildings. He suggested the possibility of trellis work to reduce the visual
mass of the building, He further stated that because there may be a parking
problem, if the south side of the building is used as a parking lot instead of
a building, trellis work along that side would also help break up that expanse
of building,.
Commissioner Chiiea advised that the reason the furring was required to go
all the way around was to also give detail to the back of the building. She
stated the community trail is at the beck of the building as well as the
parking lot, and she felt that architectural element was necessary
and
important. She was not unwilling to look at adding the gold element, if i
was done well , in that it is an element that sticks out and achieves the
layered effect first considered. She suggested that the roof` screening
element be addressed as part of the architectural upgrading: along with the
reduction of the light lumens.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel , unanimously carried, to
continue Development Review -04 to ; allow the applicant to develop
alternatives for the Commission's consideration.
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
Chairman Barker_ stated that a poll should be taken of the Commissioners who
serve on various committees. an the issue of the Trails Committee he
indicated his recommendation that the Committee expand its responsibilities so
that they don°t review specifically equestrian trails, but the total of trails
throughout the City." The following Committee appointments were established,
Trails Committee - Commissioners Chi ti ea and Tol stoy, Commissioner Fmeri ck
Alternate
Under roue i Commissioner McNi el
Work program ® Commissioners Tol stoy and Cmerick
Foothill Specific Plan - Commissioner Chitiea
Chairman Barker^ advised that he intends to meet with Commissioner Emerick and
staff to review policies of the Residential Design Review Committee. At that
point, Commissioner Cmeri ck will replace Chairman Barker on the Committee, and
Chairman Barker will then serve as the alternate.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that Jeff Barnes, the Ci y's F r s Supervisor,
be invited to give the same presentation to the Commission he gave to the City
Council regarding the Eucalyptus Borer Beetle- He advised his itent would be
for the Commission to review the City°s Tree Preservation Ordinance.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim Bailey, William Lyon Company, stated his concern with the Planning
Commission's recent direction to City staff that no small lot subdivision will
be accepted without architectural design submittal He explained that with
land sales within Victoria, the William Lyon Company completes the project t
the completion of the infrastruture. This is done because if
p e ause the hand is
parceled off and solo then each building would be coming back to the City to
work out the details. He stated that builders want to design their own
product and will net want to build the houses the William Lyon Company
designs* In this situation where land is sold to other builders, he felt this
direction will not rk f the architecture has b d s to a developed, he
I p a
indicated this would take 8 to 12 weeks f b r e_ o e a final tract map which would
mean a loss of $ Q million in sales. He agreed that innovative designs should
be encouraged. He proposed a disclosure statement which he would have the
builder review and sign which would include the conditions of the City. Staff
could also provide input into the draft of the disclosure statement so that a
builder would be aware of all the conditions and requirements.
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Mr. Buller stated that it should be understood that with the small lot
subdivisions that everytime the lot size is reduced it gets more and more
frustrating for someone to try and put a unit in there because they dad net
have the flexibility in designing that lot. He stated staff can work with the
applicant to try and disclose as much as possible, but he didn't think the
frustration would be alleviated.
Commissioner Chtiea stated that it seems that this being a planned community
as opposed to a lot of tracts tacked together, Mr. Bailey has a good point
about making sure there is a certain continuity.
Commissioner Tol stoy stated there needs to be continuity in Victoria so that
it doesn't end up a number of tracts. He suggested that staff be given an
opportunity to stunt the issue to insure the City gets what it wants. 1f
staff' can do that, he would support the request; however, if staff can't do
that the Co fission needs to know up front that it can't be done` and another
dialogue is needed.
Chairman Barker stated that since the City has a special relationship with a
planned community that is not in existence with any other development this
direction might work* however, design submittal might still be required for
all other tracts. He considered it a good idea on small lot subdivisions to
have those controls.
Commissioner Chitiea felt: comfortable with that direction and concurred that
situations within the planned communities are unique.
Chairman Barker advised that Mr. Bailey would have to provide the proof that
his alternative would work. He suggested that Mr. Bailey work with staff to
dome up with something ng to help take care of the problem.
r. Buller pointed out that the problem
has not occurred outside the planned
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to unities. Further, the only place it has occurred thus far is in Victoria
because in the Werra Vista planned Community a project is submitted with the
map. He advised that staff was only responding t 0 o a policy s direction on b h
p �" p g p y_ by
Commission. e fur d
H that advised sad that staff would work with fir. Bailey to come
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op with a list of product types. He advised that when the Commission reviews
tract maps they need to look closely at conceptual site layouts. He
understood the o i ssi on's direction at this time to process the tracts Cyr.
Bailey had submitted. Further, when the tract goes to design review it would
be a snap showing units only for clarification that those lots work with that
type of unit. Additionally, Mr. Bailey will develop a disclosure statement to
alert the buyer of the tract.
Planning Commission Minutes -29- January 28, 198
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Emeridk, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, t
adjourn.
1: 0 a.m. - Plannin
g Commission Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
/BradB l r
Deputy Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes - C- January 28, 1987
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAtONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
January 14, 198
Chairman David Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:0'0 p.m. The meeting was held at
Lions Park Community Center, 911 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga,
California. Chairman Barker Mien led in the pledge of allegiance.
City Clerk Beverly Authelet administered the oath of office to Bruce Emerick.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: E. David Barker, Suzanne Chitiea, Bruce
Emorick, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: Nome
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Senior Planner;
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner-, Greg Gage, Assistant
Planner, Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, Ralph
Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Bill Holley, Community
Services Director, Barbara Krall, Assistant Civil Engineer,
Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner, Russell Maguire, City
Engineer, Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, Scott Murphy,
Assistant Planner, Janice, Reynolds, Planning Commission
Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, introduced Russell Maguire to the Planning
Commission. Mr. Maguire recently accepted the vacant City Engineer's
position,
Mr. Buller additionally announced that the Planning Commissioners Institute
would be held on March 11-13. He advised that: staff would provide the
Commission with details at a later date.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel, carried, to approve the Minutes
of November 1 , 18 . Commissioner Emerick was not present during that
meeting, therefore abstained from vote,
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Tolstoy, carried, to approve the Minutes
of December 10, 1986. Clarification of language was made by Commissioner
Chitiea to pages 15 and 17, and by Chairman Barker to page 20.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 6-38 - BARTON - The
development of seven multi-tenant industrial buildings totaling 103,854
square feet in the General; Industrial District (Subarea ) located on the
north side of Jersey Boulevard, approximately 350 feet east of Utica
Avenue' - APN 209-142-19, 2 , 21
B. DESIGN REVIEW FOR TRACT 1360 - THE MCCARTHY COMPANY - Review of site plan
and building architecture for Tract D , an approved residential
subdivision; of 19.5 acres within the Victoria Planned Community (Law
Residential 2-4 dwelling units per acre) into 86 lots, located at the
southwest corner of Milliken Avenue and 'Fairmont Lane - APN 202-211-13,
3 ,
Jim Barton, applicant for Item A, requested its removal from the Consent
Calendar.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel , unanimously carried, to adopt
Item B of the Consent Calendar.
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW' 86-38 - BARTON
Mr. Barton thanked City staff for the timely processing of this project.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to adopt
Item A of the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Barker announced that the Planning Commission was in receipt of
requests for continuance for the following projects; therefore, they would he
advanced to the beginning of public hearings.'
C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 1023 ® C CA ONBA COUNTY WATER
DI TRICT - sub lvi ion o acres of land into 3 parcels in the 10o
Control designation located on the northwest corner' of Foothill Boulevard
and San Diego Avenue - APN 207-101-43. (Continued from December 10, 1986
meeting.)
Chairman Barker opened the public. There were, no comments.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel , unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing for Environmental Assessment and Parcel Map 10238
to January 28, 1987 _
Planning Commission Minutes -2- January 14, 1987
D . ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TERRA VISTA PLANNED COMMUNITY AMENDMENT 86-0
=STERN ROPERTIES - A request to amend the Terra Vista Planned
Community by establishing a Business Park Overlay Zone for areas
designated as Office Park, Commercial and Muted Use, within the Planned
Community boundary ® APN 1077-4 1-0b, 1077-091-17. (Continued from
December 10,, 198E meeting. )
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by McNiel, unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing for Environmental Assessment and Terra Vista
Planned Community Amendment 86-02 to February '1 , 1987.
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G. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 88-03A - LAING HOMES
AUPE - A request to mend the Land Use Element of the General Plan
from Flood Control to Low 'Medium Density Residential (4-8 dwelling units
per acre) for 40 acres of land located at the southwest corner of
extensions of Banyan and Milliken - APN 01- -SS. (Continued from
November 12, 198E meeting. )
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, unanimously carried, to
continue the public` hearing for Environmental Assessment and General Plan
Amendment 86-03A to January 28, 1987.
N. TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL` USE 'PERMIT 84- 1 - ALTA LOMA CHRISTIAN
CHURCH - A -request to convert an existing square foot single faFTIy
residence to an office for the Alta Loma Christian Church on S acres of
land in the Low Residential District (less than 2 dwelling units per acre)
located on the west side of Sapphire, across from Orange - APN 10 -33 -
3.
Chairman Barker ;opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Chtiea, unanimously carried, to
continue the public hearing for Time Extension for Conditional Use Permit 84-
1 to January 28, 1987.
Planning Commission Minutes -3- January 14, 1987
E. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 86- 6 - CITATION - A request to establish an off-
site model horses sales office complex on Lots 11-15 of Tract 138 located
at the northeast corner of Church Street and Whitney Court for he purpose
of lots sales within Tract 1 `830, located on the west side of Beryl
Street, north of LaVine .Street - APN 08- -11, 1 , 1 , 14, and 1. .
(Continued from December 1 , 1986 meeting.)
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing_.
Jerry Linton, Citation Builders, questioned condition 2 of the Resolution. He
stated that he attended both the Planning Commission and City Council meetings
when Ordinance 293 was discussed and did not believe that on-site lighting was
to be a requisite. He felt that the intent was that if on-site lighting is
proposed, it would be subject to a lighting plan and required to be installed
within 60 days of approval.
Scott Murphy, Assist-ant Planner, advised that staff had researched Ordinance
93 and the Development Code and concurred with Mr. Linton's statement
relative to on-site lighting. : He suggested that the condition be amended to
reflect that if on-site lighting ;is proposed it would be subject to the
condition
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by McNiel , seconded by Chitiea to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt ;the Resolution, approving Environmental Assessment and Conditional
Use Permit'86- , with an amendment to clarify the 'intent of on-site lighting,
Condition 2 of the Resolution. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS - MNIEL CHITIEA, BARKER, EMERIC , TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
E. VARIANCE 86-0 - MOBERO - A request to reduce the number of parking spaces
required for a food establishment in a developed shopping center in the
Neighborhood Commercial District (NC) located at the northeast corner of
Archibald and Base Line - APN -731-1 . (Continued from December 10,
186 meeting. )
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Barbara Moberg, 8079 Banyan, Rancho Cucamonga, gave an -overview of her
request. She requested that she be allowed a minimum of twelve seats as a
convenience to her customers and also indicated that twelve seats would` be the
minimum due to the design ;and function of the establishment.
Planning Commission Minutes - - January 14, 1987
Jan Krause, representing; the shopping center owner, Sycamore Investments,
agreed that a yogurt shop would be at the low end of the restaurant
continuum. She advised that the center has a lease which includes the
regulation of parking.
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Commissioner Tol stoy asked what the plans are for- the now vacant pad on the
Base Line frontage and asked if the; landlord anticipated one tenant or multi-
tenants.
Ms. Krause replied that Sycamore Investments is talking with a financial
institution, a furniture store and also a medical group as possible tenants*
She advised that due to the size of the pad, there would probably be at least
three tenants.
Ronald Taylor, 9664 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that he is the
owner of Taylormaid Yogurt across the street from this ;proposal. He advised
that he wanted to put a yogurt shop in a center on Foothill , however was
denied his request die to inadequate parking and urged the Commission to treat
applicants fairly
Commissioner Emerick asked if the shopping center which denied Mr. Taylor his
request contained outside eating areas.
r. Taylor advised that it did.
Commissioner Cmerick asked haw many seats are in Mr. Taylor' s current
establishment.
r. Taylor advised that he has 12 seats*
Commissioner Cmerick asked how many parking spaces are allocated to his
business
Mr. Taylor ;replied that there is one parking space for every two and one-half
seats."
Commissioner Cmerick questioned if Mr. Taylor' s average customer comes in
singly or in multiples.
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Mr. Taylor advised that mo
st users come
to singly.
Chairman Barker questioned how many; people Mr`. Taylor estimates actually sit
down and consume the yogurt on the premises.
Mr. Taylor :replied that very few people consume the yogurt on the premises and
would estimate the number to be 10-15 per day.
Planning Commission Minutes -6- January 14, 1987
Commissioner Emerick- asked if the denial of Mr. Taylor's request to open the
shop on Foothill was by the center or by the City.
r. Taylor believed that the request was denied by both the center and the
City. `
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that more than likely the leasing agent cane
into the City office and ;, was informed by City staff that a yogurt shop was
designated as a; restaurant and needs so many parking spaces. He speculated
that the puns were checked which disclosed that there was inadequate parking
on that site for the, yogurt shop. He pointed out the difference between Ms.
Moberg and Mr. Taylor is that Ms. Moberg applied for a variance and Mr. Taylor
accepted the fact that the Code required more parking.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea did not consider a yogurt shop as a typical restaurant
use due to the - length of stay by customers and the number of employees. She
pointed out that this particular request is unusual in that it is surrounded
by rather high density housing,with very ample pedestrian connections between
the projects and this center and outside eating areas are provided. She felt
this was an unusual situation which would warrant the variance.
Commissioner Mciel reiterated his previous position that the parking problems
will occur when the "remainder of the pads are released. He staged he wound
concur with the applicant' s request to increase the seating capacity to 1 .
Commissioner Tolstoy` suggested that the Commission consider{ another kind of
designation in the Code that would not include yogurt shops, ace cream stores,
and donut shops in the restaurant classification. With respect to this
request, he stated that he did not have a problems with the variance. His
only concern would be that it might seta precedent for people coming in and
asking for variances. If this proves to be the case, he felt that something
is wrong with the Code, which was the reason he suggested the possibility of
another designation.
Commissioner Emerick agreed with Commissioner Tolstoy with respect to the need
for fine tuning the Code to distinguish between a restaurant and other food
uses that seem to generate less parking and are less intensive ire nature. He
concurred that this dine tuning may avoid future need for variance requests.
With respect to this particular project, he agree that 'there are special and
unique circumstances in that it is proposed to be located in a newer center
where certain amenities were provided such as outside eating areas. Further,
the pedestrian access links with the adjacent apartment project and this lends
uses within the center to more of a pedestrian-bike approach and less car
traffic. He also noted that the center contains a video and pizza shop which
lend themselves to multiple stop shopping and there is -parking allocated for
multiple uses within the center. He advocated the granting of the variance
with 12 seats in the interior and based his decision upon Mr. Taylor's
testimony that the number of seats don't really have a bearing on the amount
of traffic generated by the use in question.
Planning Commission Minutes -6- January 14, 1987
r. Buller stated that the S seats proposed by staff are table seats and not
necessarily for waiting without a 'table. He clarified that the applicant
could have more than D under staff' s condition, , or more than 12 if that
condition is amended; however, the seats cannot be at table but could be a
bench seat for waiting.
Commissioner Barker agreed with the statement that them is roam for work o
the Code designation. He indicated that this would have given him the
solution to his major problem. He was concerned on a technical utter that
this shop could have been placed in another center in mother area and it was
not mandatory that it be located in this center to begin with. He felt that
in that case the regulation and its enforcement would not really create an
unnecessary hardship and could not support the Variance request. 1
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the menu set forth in the conditions met with
the applicant's approval .
Ms. Moberg replied that it did and was also included in the terms of her
lease.
Motion: Moved by Chiti a, seconded by Emerick to adapt the Resolution
approving Variance d -07, with an amendment to Condition 2' to increase the
maximum seating from 8 to 12. Staff was directed to incorporate the statement
that the center has outdoor plaza areas that encourage pedestrian traffic, the
fact that the center is adjacent` to Medium and, Medium-Nigh Residential
development with pedestrian access, and the multiple use parking condition
which exists in the center into the Findings of the Resolution. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES. COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA, EMERIC , MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
H. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 86-0 0' - CITY OF
RAN HO ` OCAMONGA A request to amendthe Land Use Element of the General
P an fr6m Low Medium Density Residential (4- du/ac) to Lour Density
Residential (2-4 du/ac) and/or Very Lowy Density Residential ('less than 2
du/ac) for 68 acres of land located at the southwest corner of Wilson (if
extended) and Milliken (if extended) - APN 201-191-11, ` 17. (Continued
from September 24, 19 meeting.)
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT D -OS - CITY
O RAN H U AM N A - A request to amen the Deae o ent District Map from
" C" lood `Control ) and %M" (Low Medium Density Residential - 2-4 du/ac)
for 68 acres of land located at the southwest corner of Wilson (if
extended) and Milliken (if extended) APN 201- g1-1 , 17
Planning Commission Minutes ® - danuary 14, 1987
Otto 1routil , Senior planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Michael Vairin 8480 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, representing the Deer Creek,
presented letters from the Deer Creek Homeowners' Association and Chaffey
College in support of a project proposal by the Geer Creek Company on this
site. He advised that a tentative map had been filed by the Deer Creek
Company on this site, based on -3 dwelling units per acre
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the Deer Creek Homeowners' Association was aware
that the Commission was also considering Very Loss designation for this site.
Mr. Vairin replied that they were made aware that bath options were being
considered and that the homeowners were also advised of the option through the
public hearing notice.
Commissioner Emerick asked if the impacts of lightingand crowd noise from the
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football field had been considered.
Mr. Virin replied that spill over parking had been taken care of by the main
spine street design of the project and indicated there would be no parking
along those streets ;and also no lots fronting the football fields He pointed
out that the stadium is 600 feet to the crest of this project. He advised that
appropriate walls would be built and landscaping .could be used to mitigate
lighting spill over. He further stated that the project has been designed
with the least amount of lots backing up to the college which will help
provide additional shielding and buffer.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that his inclination would-be that he would like
to see a Very Low designation on this property; however, with Deers Creek
coming in with; a proposal of: a very unique product type and the size lots
proposed, together with the fact that their grading would be minimal , he would
consider changing his opinion. He staged the City could certainly use the
type of homesthat the Deer Creek Company builds. He felt this product type
would meet one of the goals of the General plan to have varied types of
housing in the City. He stated that the proposed plan addresses the edge
treatment that the college desires. His concern was that the City can' t tie
the proposed project to the change in land use designation. He suggested that
the decision on the landuse should be continued until the applicant has the
tract ma`p designed and ready' to 'go and approve the tract and amendments
together as a package.
Chairman Barker stated that if this issue that would make a difference in the
Commission' s decision, he would reopen the public hearing for the applicant's
comment.
Planning Commission Minutes -8- January 14, 198
Mr. V'airin stated that the Deer Creek Company would prefer action tonight
since they had entered into a legal purchasing agreement for this property.
However, if the Commission ission could not make a decision on the site without
processing the trace concurrently with the amendments, he would concede to
those wishes.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Cmerick supported Commissioner Tolstoy's suggestion that the
tract map,; design approval and amendments be processed concurrently. He felt
this was a safer and more prudent course that would allow more control over
the final product®
Commissioner Mc Niel stated he would agree under normal circumstances; however,
he had a good deal of faith in the Deer Creek Company with respect to their
integrity. His position would'be to approve the Low designation.
Commissioner Chitiea stated her inclination is toward the Very Low
designation; however, knew that this particular company does very fine work.
She believed the Deer Creek Company could probably come up with a product,
grading plan and site plan that would satisfy her. Her concern would be that
there are no guarantees and should for some reason their escrow fall through
she would not like to see the City in a position where another developer wants
to cone in at the top of this density and with an ;inferior product. She was
concerned that such a proposal at the high end of the designation might meet
the standards and, therefore, would be hard to control .. She was inclined to
o along with Commissioner Tolstoy' s suggestion to tie the two together and
continuing the decision on that basis, otherwise she would have to support the
Very Low density.
Chairman Barker stated there is no question that this is an excellent
organization and integrity is high. "het were the Commission to make special
arrangements on this amendment it would be the first time that has been
done; He staged that he has arrays been a little paranoid in favor of
protecting the community against unforeseen circumstances. He favored
continuing the 'decision on the land use amendments until such time as the
tract map is processed and reviewed by the Commission,
r, Vairin asked if it would be possible to gain some vote of confidence that
the product type submitted would be acceptable.
Chairman Barker stated that if its proven that the project could be designed
in an appropriate manner, and he had faith that the Deer Creek Company could
o so, he would to inclined to vote in favor of the amendment and the
dwelling unit per acre designation.'
It was the consensus of the Commission that the applicant continue processing
of the development proposed.
Chairman Barker asked the length of time necessary in order to continue on to
the next area of issues in order to process this product.
Planning Commission Minutes -9- January 14, 1987
Mr, Buller stated that in order for the applicant to address grading and
technical issues as a result of Committee reviews, he would suggest continuing
the public hearing for three months.
Mr. Vairin stated that ; the project is scheduled for Committee meetings
beginning next week. He felt any concerns as a result of those meetings could
be mitigated by a short period of time, and requested a continuance to the
second meeting in February.
Motion: Moved by Chitea, seconded by MNiel unanimously carried, to
continue Environmental Assessment and General Plan Amendment 86-030 and
Environmental Assessment and Development District Amendment 86--05 to the
February 25, 1907 meeting
I. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP 10351 - DICK SCOTT INC. - A
subdivision of 172 acres of land Into two parcels within the Very Low
du/ac) Development District, located on the south side of Ironmountain
Court, west of Hermosa Avenue - APN 201-071-26.
Barbara Krall , Assistant Civil Engineer, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chtiea asked the widths of the two parcels.
Ms. gall replied that Parcel 1 is approximately 110 feet and Parcel 2 is
approximately 90 feet in width.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing;.
Richard Fuerstein, 8331 Utica, Rancho Cucamonga, representing the applicant,
advised that the easement that forced the large parcel has been obtained and
recorded. He concurred with the findings of the Resolution and conditions of
approval
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel ' to issue a Negative Declaration
and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and Parcel Map
0351 Motion carried by the following vote.
AYES. COMMISSIONERS TOL TO , MCNIEL, CHIT EA, EMERIC , BARKER
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
.ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Planning Commission Minutes _10- January 1 , 1987
J. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 86- (SITE APPROVAL 97 6 - PATTCN - The request
add a condition of approval 1 n existing shopping center located at
the northeast corner of Archibald Avenue and 19th Street - APN 0 -171-46,
51 through 66
Nancy Fong, Associate Planner, presented the staff ;report. I
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that this modification will be very beneficial to
the City. She appreciated the cooperation ofthe landowner.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 86 3 . Motion carried by the following vote:
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS MCNIEL CHITIEA, BARKER, EMERICK, TCLTDY
LACES: COMMISSIONERS: NINE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS- NONE -carried
K. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 66-01 - MAGIC LAMP INN - The review of providing live
entertainment in E5636nEfion wit a restaurant use, located at 8189
Foothill Boulevard.
Dan Coleman, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Anthony Vernol , 8189 Foothill Boulevard, applicant, concurred with the
findings of Resolution and conditions of approval.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that it is a good idea to get entertainment in
town and this is the perfect place for it because the neighboring uses are
appropriate. He believed its location would not be a nuisance to surrounding
neighbors.'
Commissioner Chitiea did not see that it would have: any conflict with adjacent
properties and concurred this is a nice establishment.
Motions Moved by McNiel , seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the Resolution
approving Entertainment Permit 66-01. Motion carried by the following votes
AYES: COMMISSIONERS MCIEL,' CHITIEA, BARKER, EMRICK, TOLSTOY
NOES:, COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Planning Commission Minutes _11- January' 14, 1987
L, TIME EXTENSION FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 1277 - C.P. LANCE - A, custom lot
residential ub 'ivision of 16 lots on 4.24 acres of land in the Low
Density Residential District (2-4 d /ac), located on the south side of
19th Street, west of Hellman - APN 202-041-0 and 52.
Scott Murphy, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report, Mr. Murphy
advised that the applicant agreed to comply with the City' s current
undergrounding ,policy; therefore, staff recommended the following condition be
added to the Resolution An in lieu fee as contribution to the future
underrounding of the existing overhead utilities (telecommunication and
electrical ) on the opposite side of 19th Street shall be paid to the City
prior to final inspection or occupancy :permits, whichever occurs last. The
fee shall be one-half the adopted unit amount times the 'length of the property
frontage.
Ralpha Hanson Deputy Cat Attorney, advised t r e . . . hat the staff report 7s correct
p. � p _ y y y�
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in that the imposition of a near condition on an extension o the tract ma is
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in violation of the Map Act. However, in this case, the applicant has
specifically agreed to this addition of the condition requiring
dndergrounning. If for nothing other than the sake of notice and knowledge of
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this condition and the applicant' s willingness to comply, the addition of a
utility undergrounding condition on this tract man would not be
inappropriate. He : pointed out that such a condition while not normally
subject to a tract map extension would be appropriate on other permits on this
project, such as building permits or design review. He requested staff to
include this identical condition on those approvals also.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Kathy womplier, C.P. Lange Engineers, 'concurred with the findings of the
Resolution and conditions of approval.
There were no further comments, therefore the ,public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Chitiea was concerned that in the past the Commission wanted to
make a minor modification to a particular tract and were informed they could
not impose new conditions. She questioned why it could; be done in one
situation and not in another.
Ralph Hanson advised that it is more for the notification and to show
knowledge on the part of this applicant agreeing to the condition. He further
stated that this action would` only be binding on this particular applicant.
Under normal circumstances without an applicant's consent, it would be in
violation of the Map Act to add additional conditions after map approval ®
Planning Commission Minutes 12 - January 14, 1987
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the alternative; would be to deny the extension
without prejudice in order for the applicant to reprocess his map. At that
time the language could be included. She was uncomfortable placing a new
condition on the time extension request as it weld not be binding if the
tract were sold.
Mr. Hanson stated that a denial without prejudice would simply allow the
applicant to process an entirely new reap; they would have to start at square
one. The only benefit to denial without prejudice is that they would not have
to wait a year before resubmitting. He pointed out that there wouldn't be; a
problem even if this language was not added to this map; the condition can be
added to other approvals for the project. It is only with the Map Act itself
that adding an extra condition is in violation'.
Commissioner Emerick stated if he understood the City Attorney correctly, if {
the project sold tomorrow with respect to the` tentative rtract map the City is
are not tying them down to the condition of paying in lieu fees. He suggested
that the applicant state on the record that she is agreeable to have this
condition placed on the design review or any other ;permit approval required.
Ms. Womplier concurred with this requirement.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution
approving the time extension: for Tentative Tract 1577,' with the added
condition relative to utility undergrounding.` Motion carried by the following
vote
AYES. COMMISSIONERS MCNIEL, TCLSTCY, BARKER, EMERICK
NOES- COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
M. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -Og - MOUNTAIN VIEW' COMMUNITY
CRU _ A r�odificat on to a previously approve on" itlona tlse Permit to
allow a church within an existing preschool facility within the Terra
Vista 'Planned Community on 0.91 acres of land in the Medium Density
Residential District 4_14 du/ac) located on the northeast corner of Haven
and Valencia - APN 0 - 1 11.
Greg Gage, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Niel Tibtt, 1039 Terra vista Parkway, Rancho Cucamonga, applicant,
requested a modification to the conditions to modify the hours of operation
from beginning at 900 a.m. to beginning at :OO' a.m. on Sundays, with the
understanding that there would be no outside activities before 9:00 a.m.
Commissioner Mciel asked the: approximate number of people who attend the
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church and how long the church estimates they would use this facility,
r» Tibbett replied that approximately 50-50 people now attend services at the
church and that the facility could comfortably seat 150; therefore, he
estimated that the church could use the facility for quite some time.
There were no further comments, therefore the public hearing was closed.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Emerick, to adopt the Resolution
approving the modification to Conditional Use Permit 85_09, with a
codification to the hours of operation to Sundays at 8:00 a.m. with no outside
activities until 9:00 a.m. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS TCESTO , EM RIC , BARKER, CHITIEA, MCNIEL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
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O. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CODE_ AMENDMENT 85-0 - CITY OF
RANCHO CICAM NOA - T regdest to amen t e parking section
bf the Development Code, pertaining to parking lot striping standards.
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner;, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments, therefore
the public hearing was closed.'
Commissioner Chitiea stated that she initiated this amendment and she was
strongly in favor of it.
Motion- Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to recommend issuance of a
Negative Declaration and adoption of the Resolution approving Environmental
Assessment and Development Code Amendment C-OJ to the City Council . Motion
carried by the following vote;
AYES: COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA, TC STOY, BARER, EMERICK, MCNIEt
NOES. COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE carried
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he would like for the Commission to take a
look a parking standards, and compact stalls in particular.
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Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that this could be included in the upcoming
amendments to the Development Code,
NEW BUSINESS
P. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW B -B' - GENERAL DYNAMICS -
The development of Phase II construction of an approved Master Par- on 75
acres of land. Phase II consisting of a 380,000 square foot
industrial/warehouse building in the General Industrial District (Subarea
11) located on the south side of bth Street between Utica and Cleveland ;-
PN 1 -081 -8, 9 10.
Debra Meier, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker asked if there were any items to be placed on the roof.
s. Meier stated that there would be vents and skylights on the roof. She
indicated that, these items are to be screened.
Chairman Barker' stated that he would like assurance that there would not be
scattered screening on the roof,
Chairman Barker invited public comment.
Lick, Hattinger, representing the applicant, stated that sporadic exhaust vents
would be located on the roof. He felt that it would take shields ,of different
heights to shield each one of them. He `'advised that there is a two and one-
half foot parapet around the ` perimeter of the building, which he felt was
sufficient to shield the vents;. He stated that the design calls for very low
ventilation units that should not be seen from the ground level . He advised
that there' might be an exhaust stack in the cafeteria area, which is on the
south side of the building and would only be visible to the inside campus of
the facility.
There were no further public co ents,
Co issionr Tolstoy stated that he was surprised that the applicant was
taking space from the building to put the air conditioning unit in; however,
questioned what would happen later if the applicant remodeled and decided to
place the unit on the roof.
r. Buller suggested that if this was a concern of the Commission, a condition
could be added which would require a roof equipment plan including all vents
and skylights, and a sight line study from bth Street.
Commissioner Chitiea suggested that the condition require a parapet wall of
sufficient height to 'screen all roof equipment.
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Commissioner McNiel agreed with Mr. Buller that if the applicant prepared
plans that show the sight lines to determine if there is a problem or not and
then require that it be screened by a parapet wall if there appears to be a
problem.
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by-Tolstoy, to adopt the Resolution as
mod ified.
Barrye Hanson, Senior Civil Engineer, advised that he would like to clarify
the language within Engineering condition 1a. He requested that the language
include the exact location of the undergrounding and advised that it should be
from the first pole east of Cleveland Avenue to the first pole on the west
side of Utica Avenue.
Chairman Barker reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Hattinger objected to raising the parapet wall higher in an effort to
shield the cafeteria exhaust stack given the size of the building.; He offered
the suggestion that if the cafeteria stack is in the line of sight., it would
be required to be screened as approved by the Planning Department*
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the applicant concurred with the modification
made by Mr.. Hanson
Mr. Hattinger concurred with this modification.
r. Buller commented that staff would. make ;sure that the parapet is high
enough to cover the low profile vents, but if :there is one element such as the
exhaust vent for the cafeteria staff, would work with the applicant on a means
o screen i .
Motion: Moved by Chitiea, ; seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative
Declaration and adopt the Resolution approving Environmental Assessment and
Development Review B -36, with amendments to include a roof equipment plan and
line of sight study from bth Street, and clarification to Engineering
Condition 1.a proposed by Mr. Hanson. Motion carried by the following vote:
YE : COMMISSIONERS CHITIEA, TCLT ERICE, BARKER, ME , CNIEL
NOES. COMMISSIONERS* NONE
ABSENT. COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Q. HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT BB- 1O - TAYLOR - Appeal of taff' s decision
denying a Hone ccupation ermit at 8159 Malachite Avenue.
Chairman Barker announced that the Planning Commission had received a request
from the applicant to continue this item for two weeks.
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Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
continue discussion of Home Occupation Permit - 10 to the Planning
Commission meeting of January 28, 1987.
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
R. HUNTER'S RIDGE SPECIFIC PLAN - CITY OF FON ANA - Planning Commission
review of land use a terniatives for the Hunters Ridge Specific Plan on
567.E acres of land with the City of Fontana, located on the north side of
Summit Avenue, east of San Sevaine Creek, west of Oevore Freeway.
Otto Kroutil , Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that as evidenced by the comments, the Design
Review spent considerable time looking at the alternatives and particularly at
Alternative 2. She reiterated that although the City has serious reservations
about this project, Rancho Cucamonga very much wants to work with Fontana to
develop a project everyone will be pleased with.
Chairman Barker stated that the language within the staff report was
diplomatic in that it indicated that Alternative 2 was the least dbjectiona ;
he believed the word used ,at the time was least onerous. The option presented
was pick the best of three worst. He stated that each time the City looks at
this project, not much progress has been made;. The concerns' have= been stated
:and repeated over and over. Further, we know that the property and the area
can hold and support a much higher quality and much better design in usage and
he was concerned that we are not getting higher qualityand better design. e
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did not consider it an appropriate or productive use of time to repeat` and to
re-emphasize the statements of the staff report because we have been saying
the same thing over again for months. He was very concerned and frustrated. '
Commissioner Chitiea stated that density is certainly one of the major issues
s well as the location of the density in relation to the freeway and to the
adjacent property below
Commissioner Mc Niel pointed out that the maps don't show land use designations
around the property', specifically in Rancho Cucamonga, and thought such
designations would better identify Rancho Cucamonga' s position.
Commissioner Emerick found the information on the map not adequate to assess
the environmental impacts particularly north of the power lines. He indicated
that he could not tell how the street relates to San Sevaine Creek, if San
Sevaine is a perennial or annual stream, or: if we are looking at critical
wildlife habitat which the project will be eliminating. He stated he would
like to see trees located on the map and also contours. He suggested the
possibility of development tradeoffs whereby the San Sevaine stream area would
be left alone and perhaps put little more density on the south side of the
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site, but; not nearly as much as currently exists. He suggested that San
Sevaine might ;lend itself to open space uses. He was concerned with the
proposed 1 - 8 slope and stated that the only way to place lots there would
be through massive padding or grading., He stated that this is inconsistent
with how Rancho Cucamonga intends to treat its hillsides and would hope
Fontana would be more sensitive in their treatment. He groped the City of
Fontana would take a second look at this project and see that they have an
open space opportunity here that doesn't exist in many places in their City
and would consider public opera space uses as opposed to doing severe grading
and padding. He felt the alternatives were completely inappropriate.
Brad Buller, City Planner, advised that 'Fontana would take one of these plans
as the direction or concept on which to base an Environmental Impact Report. j
Fontana indicated that the other two alternatives which would be considered in
the Environmental Impact Report would be of less density than Alternative 2,
which would be considered the maximum density. He further advised that the
Environmental Impact Report will address issues which have been raised as a
result of the Planning Commission' s discussion relative to the upper portion
of the project,
Commissioner Chitiea stated that the Planning Commission had requested that
all alternatives presented in the future have a lowering of density; these
alternatives present an increase in all cases. She stated this needsto he
addressed by the City of Fontana.
Chairman Barker stated that staff has heard a number of concerns expressed by
Commissioner Em,erick which were not utilized in the initial report. He
requested that the comments made this evening as well as those prepared by the
Design Review Committee be included with the report to the City Council .
Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with all comments made and that sensitivity to the
surrounding environment is certainly lacking. He was also concerned with the
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1 Commissioner Emerick was concern with having such a long road that cul-de-sacs
at the end going up into the hillside. In case of fire, he was concerned that
there would be a serious public safety issue.
Mr. Boller stated that staff would notify the Commission when the City of
Fontana reviews this project. Further, staff will continue closely monitor 1
the review_ of the alternatives and also the Environmental Impact Report
process and would continue to keep the Commission informed.
S. CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR THE NORTH TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PARK SITE
Bill Holley, Community Services Director, presented the staff report.
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Chairman Barker asked if league play was planned for this park. His concern
would be parking if league playing was intended.
Mr. Holley replied that this park would not be intended for that type of use.
Chairman Barker questioned if it wouldn't be likely that the park, might draw
leagues in the future, given the growth in the City and the fact that; people
might complain that there aren't enough parks to accommodate organized
leagues.
Mr. Holley stated that the possibility exists; however is not envisioned.
There' is adjacent off-street parking across; the street, though not to any
great degree, at the Middle School .
Chairman Barker asked if there would be any type of barrier between the park
and the railroad tracks to the south.
r. Holley stated that a block wall would be built along the south side, not
only to partially satisfy noise attenuation, but to provide visual blockage.
He advised that the Department of Housing and Urban Development also voiced a
concern with putting in a park next to a railroad without some type of major
barricade.
Chairman Barker asked if a club house was proposed to be located at this park
site.
r. Holley stated that a club house was not proposed.
Commissioner Barker asked if the City had studied the type of lighting to be
used, particularly the spill over lighting to the adjacent properties.
Mr. Holley advised that a lighting study was conducted during the design of
Heritage and Red Hill Parks, and when Beryl Park was e piped with lights. He
Mated that low pressure sodium lights were found to: produce less ambient
glare and have a longer cycle.
Chairman Barker asked if there would be lighting throughout or ,;just on the
ball Melds.
r. Holley stated that sidewalk or security lighting will be provided, as well
as restroom lights and lights in the parking lot area.
Chairman Barker stated that it is obvious that drainage is a major' problem and
concern in that area.
r. Holley concurred and stated the problem is the Deer Creek project as i
flows in a southerly direction. He advised that where drainage crosses Arrow
and goes down the Crowell 'Leventhal project and across Rancho Middle School it
comes out into a sump in the middle of Feron where it can't drain to the east
or west, therefore ponds. This is why project is so clsel,y intertwined with
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the Master Plan Storm Crain systems that the City Engineering Division is
working on. Mr. Holley stated this is a major problem that has to be dealt
with before the park can be dealt with successfully and safely.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what kind of delays would this mean for the park.
Russ Maguire, City Engineer, advised that the Basic Concept and Alignment
report has just been completed. City staff has reviewed the report which
disclosed that fill will be necessary on the park site and the adjacent
development to achieve an elevation high enough to drain into the drainage
facility and that an additional drainage line will be added. He further
stated that the report will be cleaned up this week and staff will be going
for design. Staff anticipated, to build the drainage system at a cost of $1.2
million daring neat Summer or Fall so that the following Spring the park can
be constructed. He advised that monies are beingtransferred `in order t r o
achieve an advance program on the drainage system
Mr. Holley indicated that when the Pare Development Commission made their
latest review and recommendation, the Preliminary 'Alignment Study and Report
had not been received; therefore, they would be addressing this latest factor
at their next meeting. He advised that the intent of the Parks Commission has
been to recommend development of the park as as fast as prudently possible.
Commissioner Chitiea stated that in addition to sharing ChairmanBarker's
concern, she had an additional concern regarding the play area. Having
visited park in Terra vista, she found one main problem to be inadequate
seating around the play areas. She felt more seating should be required and
they should be placed in appropriate areas so that more than one piece of
equipment is in view,
Nacho Cracia, 10'3 Humboldt, Rancho Cucamonga, supported the park and thanked
staff for its work is accomplishing the effort.
r. Buller stated that he and Mr. Holley would be reviewing the process for
park review so that the 'lines of review would be" clean He asked for the
Commission's direction relative to the architectural review of any structures
within pans.
Commissioner Chi'tiea stated that it would be appropriate for the Design Review
Committee to review structures. However, for structures as substantial as
those in Heritage Park, the entire Commission should review the architecture.
Chairman Baker stated that the design of the picnic areas and out buildings
deserve as much or more attention because they; are representing this City. He
stated that as much' time should be spent on these items as what would be
required of a private developer.
Commissioner Tolsto, agree; however, stated that the City has a Parks
Commission and that one of the charges of that Commission is the design of
parks and the integration of these elements,
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Commissioner Chitiea suggested that the review start at that level , but felt
that since parks are representative of the City the Planning Commission should
review them for consistency with what is going on in the City.
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated that if the Commission is going to review the out
buildings, it should review all structures to make sure the design is
consistent.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if them were any restrictions for the hours or
days of the week for lighting
Mr. Holley advised that the ; City Council reviewed the policy for night
lighting and established a 10: 0 p.m. curfew on all night lighted facilities.
The report was forwarded to the City Council for their review.
T. PLANNING DIVISION OR PROGRAM Oral Report'
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the ;report. He asked that a subcommittee
be selected to work with staff on the Planning Division Work Program.
Commissioners Tolstoy and Emery were selected to serve on the work program.
Commissioner Chitiea asked if the Almond trail extension was included in the
Trails Inventory. She saw it as a separate issue and felt it should be on the
work program.
r. Buller advised that the Trails Inventory includes an overall survey of the
trails issue. Further, staff has expended some person weeks already but under
Council direction the inventory was turned over to Community Services. He
noted the inventory was not specific to the Almond Trail issue; however, he
would be Meeting with the Community Services Director with regard to the
Almond Trail and wound continue to be involved with the trails inventory.
ADJOURNMENT
Notion; Moved by Mc Niel, seconded by Chitiea, unanimously carried, to
adjourn.
10:00 p.m. - Planning Commission Adjourned.
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