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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
October 8, 1980
Regular Meeting
CALL i'1 ORDER
The regular meeting, of the City of Rancho Cuca mQng4 Pla_nning Commission was
held at than l.ian's Fark Community BuA.1ding,
9161 Base Line Road, Rancho 'Cu
c onga, Q4 i edn sda , ct beer 8, 1980,
Meeting vas; called to order at 7;05 Pa :m, by Chairman D hl .
ROLL CSC
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Jeffery King, Herman Rempel, Jeff Cceran aa,:
Peter `lol taa; , Richard, Dahl
SENT; COMMISSIONERS: None
STAFF S PRESENT: Barry K. Hogan, CityPlanner; Tech Hopson, City
Attorney; Joan Kruse, Secretary; Paul Rougeau,
Senior Civil, Engineer;ineer; i.ch el Vairin, Senior
Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion- Moved by King seconded by Rempel, carried unanimously, to approve
the Minutes of September 6, 1980.
Motion: Moved by dempel, seconded by Tol toy, carried unanimously, to approve
the Minutes of September 13, 1980.
Motion: Ma ved by King, seconded by Scerankti, carried, unanimously, ;to approve
the Minutes of September 16, 1980, as corrected to indicate that Commissioners
King and Scera nl a were opposed to having the first meeting on the i.ctor°ia Plan
elsewhere than the l tiwa.naiaa area.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
:Barry Hogan, City Planner, aannou.nced, that than City/County City/County Planning sso iarti n
meeting would be helm. can October 15, 1980 at the Corona Caskand Cleaver Res-
taurant. Nor. Hagan also stated that the number of steering committee meetings
or this association had been tri=xed from four ar year to one.
Hogan also announced that a meeting of the Citizens Advisory Cai aittee on
the General Plan to review the land use and circulation maps had taken al.aa.ce
on Monday, October 6.
The Financial '.Cask Force, Mr. Hogan stated, had met on October 7. Baased can
that meeting, staff has been instructed to prepare d Dist, of projects that:
are in need of financing. Mr. Hogan further stated that more information
concerning this meeting wauld be given by the %Planning Commission i.ssion member
assigned to this committee.
Mr. Hogan reported that the Mobil Oil station on Base Line is close to
opening; however, before the oepning takes plaice there were conditions that `
remained to be met. Mr. Hogan stated that Mr. Michael Vairin, Senior Planner',
mold report on the status of that rtpoj c°t.
Mr. yatrtn reported that there have been discrepancies on the plan shown re-
lative to the design n of the building so much so that the character of the build-
ing ern has changed significantly. He stated that staff is cons-tilting with the
participants to provide alternatives that' would be acceptable to the Commission.
A detailed letter, he said, would be forthcoming for review and consideration.
ion.
% Vairin stated that the significant issue here is that the gas station 'Will
set the to to of the connercial center that will ultimately be built on this
site and staff is working to be scare that it will meet the planning Cor issf n's
appr ovarl .
Mr. Hogan reported that another Citizens Advisory Committee on the General. plan
is sett for October 25. This will, be ra Saturday meeting In the Wei hborhood.
Facility and will begin at lfl a.m. Notices will be: seam to the Citizens Advi-
sory Committee era this. It was hoped that everything will be in r :a,d_tn rss for
. proposed, November t. mooting can the full. General Plan presentation by tt:h n-
dul ta.tat.
Mr. Hogan reminded the Planning Commission of the schedaaled October 1.1 meeting
on the Victoria Plan to be held in the Et,iwanda Community Room. Mr. Hogan
stated that n memo would be circulated to the: Commissioners detailing inn ens te*c
conditions of approval for the circulation and parks sections as the memo pre-
viously seat duds not contain that information.
Hogazi asked the CoTmiissioners to think about the next two items they wish
to discuss for the next scheduled meeting on Victoria, October 27.
Commissioner King stated that he would be able' to make that meeting but would
refer another date.
Commissioner llempel_ asked if October 29 is available.
Mr. Hogan stated that he would check the availability of the Forum at the
Community Building; for the October 29 date.
Mr. Hogan stated that under Director Reports, the Planning work priorities
could be discussed, tonight.
Chairman Dahl requested, that Commissioner acer .nka. provide the Planning Com-
mission with an update on the meetings he attended as its representative re-
lative to the Financial Task Force and, Citizens Advisory Committee.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that of the Planning Comrriission wished, he, would
provide that update at this meeting and reported that the Citizens Advisory
Committee meeting on the General flan reviewed the circulation, trail system,
land use and design conceits of the Cleneral. Plan. Basically, the questions
asked by: members of the committee dealt with densities proposed north of
Banyan. M bi ehomes 'were discussed as part of the Housing Element for spe-
cific land use plans
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Sceranka stated that when the CAC meetings come to an end, a report from
the CAC will be given to the Planning Commission and. the City Council, along
with any individual CAC member's input regarding the process.
Chairman Dahl asked if Commissioner Tolstoy, the Planning Commission's al-
ternate member to this committee wished to give a report.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he felt Commissioner Sceranka covered the
meeting well.
Commissioner Tolstoy also stated that he was rather disappointed in the com-
ments made by those people in attendance. For 'the most part, Commissioner
Tolstoy felt that they were more interested in what effect the Ceneraa.,'Pla
could have can their individual houses instead of what the effect would be on
the City as a whole.
Commissioner Sceranka went on to brief the Commission on the Financial. 'bask
Force Committee meeting. He stated :that 'after some discussion it Ursa decided
that a matrix would be set up by the "task Force as a mechanism to assess the
available financing for the projects identified. Commissioner Sceranka indt
sated that staff is to prepare a, document with blanks under funding mechanisms
no that the Task Force can add to its as it secs fit. The next meeting, Com-
missioner Sceranka reported, would clarify the scope of the Task Force.`
CONSENT CALENDAR
'RACK RCS. SEER CRR _ Are oast for time extension
Commsisioner Tolstoy asked if this would be the last time extension that could
be given on this project. :
r. Ted Hopson, City Attorney, replied that under the State Subdivision Map
Act, this is the last extension that can be given to this tentative tract.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 80- 5 -- CUCAMONGA COUNTY
WATER DISTRICT - A 3,635 sq. ft. addition to an existing office building on
1.45 acres' of land, it the C-2 zone located on :the southeast corner; of Nlusman
Avenue and: San Bernardino Road. APN o8 15 --C7 & 20
Motion: Moved by Rerpel seconded by Sceranka carried unanimously, to approve
the Consent Calendar.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: REMPEL, SCERANKA, KING, TOLSTOY,' DAHL
NOES COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried-
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP NO. '38 - FARRELL - A residential
subdivision of 8.6 ages of land into :3 parcels within the R-1-20,000 zone
located on the west aide of Amethyst at Wilson Avenue - 5720 Amethyst.
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Barry Hogan, City Planner, requested that this item be continued to October
22, 1980 to allow more time for review and recommendations.
Chairman Dahl oepned the public hearing.
There being no comments from the floor, it was moved by Rempel, seconded by
Sceranka, carried unanimously, to continue this item to the October 22, 1980
Planning Commission meeting.
EN-VIRONMENTPJj ASSESSMENT AND SITE APPROVAL NO. 80-11 - KINDER CARE - The de-
velopment of a day care facility to accommodate !63 children on 1.09 acres of
land in the A.P zone, located on the northeast corner of 19th and Hermosa -
APN - 202-191-13.
Senior Planner, Michael Vairin, reviewed. the staff report, adding that the ap-
plicant had agreed to a reduction in the size of the building 'to meet State
standards relative to size of play area for the number of children. The re-
duction was from 9351 square feet and 163 children 'to 5900 square feet, and 125
children. Further, Mr. Vairin stated that the applicant would like the Plan-
ning Commission to make some decision on the design of this project so that
he would not waste time and money should the Commission ultimately decide against
the project.
Mr, Vairin indicated that the Planning Commission has two pptions before them,
1� Tf the decision of the Planning Commission is to approve the
project at this location, but not ar, it is now designed, it
should continue review to allow the applicant and architect
to redesign the project to meet State standards, or
2, Deny the project if the planning Commission feels the site is
inappropriate for the deyelolament of a preschool based upon
traffic im land use comp pacts, atability, noise And nuisance
impacts upon ad vent residences,
Mr, Hogan statted 'that the first option proposed is, based on past J?lanning
Commission policy where problems with site plans invo.1ving ma,jor redesign
bRye not come back to the P14nning Comm ssion for revi,ew have involved sub-
stantial staff time, One project that canes to mind is, the Kiddy Kprner
facility that Qame 'before the Comr,4.isaion, He indicated that staff wishes to
avoid the same kind of situation with thio project,
Chairman Dahl asked what 'the State. requirements are for, square footage per
child,
Michael Vairin replied that the State requires 75 square feet of play area
per child %nd that the building was, scaled down. to acconnodate those require-
ments.,
CommissiQner King asked if access on the north side of the site is proposed
to "be put through,
Aft% Vairin replied that a punch through is shown on the plans.
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Coranissioner King then asked if this is a requirement of the Fire District.
Mr. Vairin replied that, it was and that secondary emergency access would be
provided.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing.
Mr. Joel Sock ell , -who resides in Tustin, California, addressed the Commission
Viand stated that he would answer any questions.
Coj=issioner King asked. Mr. Southwell what he felt the compatability of the
development of the preschool would be to the adjacent property to the west.
Mr. Sockwell replied that in 'terms of office and professional, he felt that
this is the best location he could think of. With residential to the east,
parents could drop off their children at l9th Street on the right side of the
street causing as little traffic problem as possible in the morning. Because
people return from work at staggered hours in the afternoon, he said, this
would not impact traffic very much. He stated. that personally, he felt this
to be an ideal site for this project.
Cortmissioner Sceranka asked if the reason for the encroachment on the front
set back is to maximize the amount of play area in the back.
Mr. Sockwell replied that it was.
Commissioner Rempel asked what the reduction in parking spaces would be in-
asmuch as the building size is being reduced.
Michael Vairin stated that approximately 9-10 spaces would be eliminated.
Corunissioner Rempel stated that it was his feeling that the building should
be moved becuase of the policy with regard to landscaping. He stated that
lie felt a precedent would be set if it was not moved back.
Commissioner Dahl asked for clarification of residential north of this project.
Mr. Vairin described the area and stated that althaugh it is residential, it
is mostly vacant.
Conmiissioner Tolstoy stated that there is one house to the north.
There was discussion among the Commission relative to a proposed 6-foot wall
to the north and east of the property.
Commissioner Rempel stated hisi concerns relative to traffic impacts on 19th
Street resulting from an estimated 125 children attendance coupled with the
traffic generated by Chaffey College students.
There was further discussion relative to the increased traffic, how it could
'be mitigated and the Buffering requirements.
Mr. Sock ell indicated that it has been his experience that this project will
not generate a traffic jam.
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Commissioner Sceranka asked how far the proposed office building is from the
Kinder Care facility because he had, Just come back from Laguna Hills where
the set back seemed -to be double the one proposed here. He wondered what the
compatibility to offices at this site would be.
Mr. John Grow, the architect's representative, stated that he did not see much
of a problem with compatibility with the adjacent buildings. He further stated
that buffering will be attempted through a 6-foot high wall made of concrete
block that would alleviate noise.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that there were two consi'derations he had: 1)
that in a good location traffic will not become a major problem if the improve-
ments that are necessary are made and, 2) that the front setback be met and
buffering be required as part of this approval.
There was considerable discussion on the flooding that occurs on Hermosa Avenue
during storms and the inability to cross that street.
Chairman Dahl opened the meeting for public discussion.
Mr. Walt t eigl, 500 E. "E" Street, Ontario, representing the owners of' the
property, stated that this property is not planned to be developed all at
once as it would be atremendous burden and cause the owner to abandon the
project. He felt that flooding problems should be solved up stream and not
at this point.
No one spoke in opposition to this project and Chairman Dahl closed the public
hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that as <far as the use of this property for a pre-
school, he had no problem; however, there were some problems that would have
to be solved before he could vote for this project. He stated that the traf-
fic on 19th Street would have to be mitigated through improvements to the street.
Also, since this is just one phase of a three phase project, Hermosa Avenue
would also be a problem with increased traffic and storm drain problems. He
stated 'that he di neat feel that Hermosa Avenue could take any increase in
storm water.
Mr. Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that strange as it may seem,
no additional water from this project would, drain onto Hermosa Avenue. Instead,
the water would drain to liaven Avenue. As to the 'traffic problems, Mr. Rougeau
stated that 19th Street is part of' -the State highway systemand CALTRANS would
be responsible for any improvements made to it.
Commissioner Tolsto also asked what happens to a straight street when the
sidewalks are torn out and it becomes a cul-de-sac.
Barry Hogan explained that, -the sidew-alk would be replaced.
Gran unissioner Tolstoy also stated that he felt the north and west landscaping
to the ina,d.e(.1:uate on this project and needed to be redesigned.
Commissioner King stated that he did not feel this project is compatible with
the area in which it is proposed. He felt that too much noise would be created
with the proposed occupancies to the west and the traffic situation would be
exacerbated. Commissioner King also stated, that he was concerned with the
secondary access to the parcel. He felt that traffic coming out of the pro-
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fessional site might be using the secondary access as an exit in order to get
out to 19th Street. Additionally, Commissioner in felt that the preschool
building is too close to the professional buildings. He stated that what it
comes down to is there is insufficient land space to bave use as a preschool
when -taking into consideration the other uses for this site.
Commissioner Sce ram ka stated that he agreed, with Commissioner King on the
use of secondary access in this prof iect. He felt t1iat 'the secondary access
would have to be designated for Emergency use only. Mr. Sceranka. also stated
that the two other buildings that are proposed on this site do not necessarily
Crave to go where they are shown on the site plan. He also indicated that some
dense buffering is needed in the play area. The setback, he stated, is not
adequate and the most serious concern he had is that of the developer waiting
to develop the least profitable piece on the site until a later time when it
may become more profitable. He stated that he did not have a lot of synkpathy
Frith the developer wanting to mitigate the costs of putting is prc)vements in
at a later date. He felt that the traffic problem is serious and something
needs to be done with the traffic problem before the day care center is put
in-to operation.
Commissioner Rex pel. stated that Conmissioner Sceranka addressedmost of his
concerns. Commissioner Rempel stated that traffic is his prime concern and
there was no- way that he would vote for 11"his without additional widening of
the street to alleviate the traffic problem at this corner. The flooding
of Hermosa Avenue was another concern. He stated that it was not one of the
worst streets as far as f1loding is concerned but that it is not one of the
best either. Commissioner Rempel stated he would like .to see a 4-foot wall
with landscaping as a means of buffering and that the sidewalks and setbacks
must be as they are required in the city as a whole. Also, the tower on
this project would have to be moved back to conform with the setback required.
Ted Hopson, City Attorney, stated that without a minor deviation or variance,
the cupola must be moved back because it is not permissible.
Chairman Dabl. asked what presently is across the street from the proposed project.
Michael. Vairin replied that single family residences are presently there.
Chairman Dahl asked if they, are the type of houses that will be there for
some time.
Mr. Vairin replied that it appeared to be so.
Chairman Dahl stated that he had no problem with the use of this property;
however, he felt that the 25-foot front setback should be maintained. He
reite ated< the problem with Hermosa Avenue and flooding and felt that l9th
Street should be improved.
Commissioner Scranky moved that this item be continued to November 12 to
allow the applicant to submit a redesign of the project.
Commissioner Rempel asked if the Commission will be votirig to approve this pro-
ject of if after the applicant redesigns the project will they still. think it
is wrong. . Ile stated he felt the applicant should not be subjected to redesign
if the Commission would not approve the project.
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Chairmap Dahl asked if there was a second to Commissioner Sceranka's notion.
"here was none causing the` motion to die for lack of a second.
Motion; Moved by King that this project use denied because of incompatibility
with adjacent land uses to the west.
Commissioner ` olstay stated that he would second the mot .un if he could amend
it to state that he felt the applicant is trying to do too much with a small
piece of land. He felt that this piece of property is not big enough to sup-
port this project
Commissioner King accepted: the amendment,
Commissioner Scera,nka raised a question on the reduction of the facility to
000 square feet.
Commissioner Tod stoy stated that the buffering is entirely inadequate and would
have to be increased to the north and west, He reiterated that he felt the
applicant is just trying to do too much with the pr ertyffi
Hagan stated that for 'clarification, it -would be appropriate to state that
the proposed site is not adequate in size or shape to accommodate the proposed.
use and that conditions of approval cannot be added 'that would protect the health,
safety, comfort and convenience of the residents and make this project acceptable.
(pity Attorney Hopson 'stated that should the Commission approve this site it
would have to find that the site is adequate in size and shape, that the streets
are adequate to 'carry traffic: and that the problem of flooding on this property
would have to be addressed.,
Commissioner Regipel stated that itbothered. harp to sake ar decision that this
site is inadequate as he felt this is a good location for the use.
Chairman Dahl called for the. question,
Commissioner Sceranka stated that he washed to make one more comment that hei
felt strongly that if the Commission wants to see the street intersection prob-
lems clear ups, the City must develop standards.. He further staged that he felt
that this was a good use for this property and i that an A P designation for this
property will create more traffic f°'ic problems than the preschool will.
AYES; COMMISSIONERS; KING, TOLSTOYI 'DAHL
NOES; CQ ISS CHHR $ R Hl SCERANKA
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS; NONE -carried-
Mr, Hawn stated that this ecis on of the Planning Commission is final unless
the applicant files an appeal with the City Council within 14 days of this
recision,
; C P.M., The -PI-anninz Commission recessed.
8: 55 P,M, The Planning Commission reconvened..
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NEW BUSINESS
CLARIFICATION OF PORTABLE SIGN STATUS wRED HILL CAPE
Commissioner Rempel stepped down on this item stating that Mrs. J,-,,imes Moffatt
had acted as his campaign treasurer during the recent city council election.
City Planner, Barry Hogan, reviewed the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what the criteria is in determining the valuation
of the sign.
Mr. Hogan stated that it is "based on, the current cost of materials as determined
by the City Building Official .
Mr. Hogan asked that, the Conmiission direct the applicant to remove the Sign
as it is in violation of the City code.
Chairman Dahl. asked Mr. Hogan if he had investigated. whether the sign is in
the right-of-way.
Mr. Hogan replied that since the completion of the staff report he had further
investigated the possibility that the signmay- 'be in the right-of-way and showed
the Commission an overlay of the area superimposed with the existing rigbt-of-
way illustrating that the sign is in the right-of-way. Mr. Hoganalso stated
that this was dedicated by the prevoius, owner in 1972 and that an encroaclmnent
permit would be necessary to allow this sign to remain here®
Commissioner Sce ran ka asked what the crosshatched area represented..
Mr. Hogan stated that the overlay used is from an aerial photo taken for the
widening of the street.
Discussion ensued on whether the sign was portable or permanent.
The City Attorney stated that whether the sign is permanent or portable is ir-
relevant.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that if the sign is, permanent it has expired based
upon the ordinance and if it as portable, it is in the right-of-way which makes
it illegal. Tie asked if staff had ever investigated the sign being in the right-
of-way previously.
Mr. Hogan stated that he had at one time asked mr s. Moffatt whether the sign
was in the right-of-way and she stated it was not so he took her word for it.
This was prior to 1979.
Connissioner Sceranka stated that there is a letter dated August 1.979 that the
sign is in the public right-of-way and so there was discussion on that in Aug-
ust of 1979.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that this was true and that he remembered it, but,
that Mr. Hogan had explained this by stating that it was believed to be in the
right-of-way but 'that nobody, knew where the right-of-way was at that time.
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The Comnission asked for clarification of where the sign is presently located.
Mr. Hogan showed the Commission where the sign is located.
Chairman Dahl stated that if the Commission is looking at a, value of $250,
the sign life under the ordinance has expired and, even if the sign were valued
higher, it will expire on November 4.
Further, that increasing the valuation of the sign accomplishes nothing as
the Planning Commission is legally bound to uphold the ordinance.
Chairman Dahl asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission.
Mr. James Moffatt came forward and stated that he took exception with the value
placed on the sign, as he felt it to be too low; that the sign is not in the
right-of-way; and that the City Council had stated that the sign could remain
in place for a period of 5 years. Mr. Moffatt also stated that he had been
told that he would receive a staff report on this item but had not received
one. Mr. Moffatt stated that the current valuation of the sign is well, over
$1500 not counting the letters that have -to be attached to it.
Chairman Dahl stated that this is a problem. that will have to be evaluated.
Commissioner Sceranka asked about the question of right-of-way.
Mr. Moffatt stated that he had a grant deed from the previous owner that does
not show the City having any right-of-way.
Following considerable discussion on the value of the sign, Chairman Dahl
stated that his concern was that the Commission does not set a dangerous pre-
cedent in making a determination on the value of the sign.
Commissioner King stated that it was his feeling that relative to the appraisal
of the sign, input should be received both from the Building Official and the
sign owner. After receiving input,, it would. be their (Planning Commission) de-
cision to arrive at an equitable amount for the sign. He felt that the issue
of value must be, addressed.
Commissioner King also felt that in making a, determination of the sign and
whether it is pernisnent or portable, the sign could still be re-moved and yet
be designed to be permanent.
The City Attorney stated that Commissioner King may be philosophically correct;
however, the City Attorney stated in terms of providing a forum for reasonable
discussion of value, the ordinance does not provide that. The o-rdinance states
that the value in determined by the Building Official, It does not state that
the value is set after debate between the Building Official and the appraiser
or anyone else. His opinion of the ordinance is that the determination of the
Building Official is final. He stated however, that the Commission may want
to suggest that the Building Official and the Moffatts go over the value if
there is some particular concern or something he thinks the Building Official
may have missed but it is not appropriate to invite debate over this with the
Planning Commission.
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Considerable discussion took place on the definition Of Vor'-able signs and
how the definition came into existence and, was incorporated into the ordinance.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the City had enforced the County sign ordinance,
would this be considered an illegal sign.
Mr. Hogan, stated that it would be. Further, if the County had enforced. its
sign ordinance, tha-t sign would not be here today.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the issue is not whether the sign is portable
or not but that it is in the right-of-way: Further, if the sign was illegal
under the County ordinance it should come down.
The City Attorney stated drat the probl(am is that the City, now has its own sign
ordinance and this sign should be judged on the merits of the City's ordinance.
,Mr. Moffatt stated that anytime the City wants to have a sign removed, all the
Building Official would have to do is value a sign to be less than $250 and
the sign would have to be removed. He stated that the sign had been bere for
some seven years and if the County did not see fit to remove the sign, the
City should not either, Mr. Moffatt stated that the City was going back on
its original-, word that his sign, was not one that would have to be removed
for five years.
Considerable disciassion took place with Rr. Moffatt and the Planning Commission
an amortization of the sign.
Mrs. Moffatt stated that she It that they were being singled out as there
were many signs in the City that she knew not to be permanent that the City
has not stated are in violation.
Chairman Dahl stated that by ordinance, the Planning Commission has no choice
but to take the estimate of the Building Official for the sign's value. Fur-
Cher, that the ordinance is clear cut but that as a Planning Commission they
want to do everything they canto work with the Moo acts. He stated that this
ordinance is a- la:w of the City and if the choose to, after the Planning
Commission decision is made, they can appeal to the City Council.
Coimnissione-r King moved that this item be continued to allow additional input
in determination of the sit n's value before the Planning Commission would act
on this matter. The motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioners Tod.stoy and Sceranka stated that they could not second. the motion
because that was not the issue.
Commissioner Sceranka moved that the applicant be directed to remove the sign
because it is in the right-of-way. There is no way the Planning Comatission
can continue to be consistent in sign enforcement and uphold the interests
of the community without its removal.
Commissioner Tolstoy seconded the motion.
There was some discussion about when the sign should be removed.
Chairman Dahl stated. that a time for removal should also be set. He stated
that the staff report has that date set as October 31 and that Commissioner
Sceranka may want to change that date in his motion, keeping ill mind that the
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applicant. may want to appeal this decision to the City Council.
Commissioner Clc rand stated that he: did not feel a delay wcaaild accomplish
anything.
Hogan suggested that since the Moffatt's may wish to appeal, that perhaps
November 7 should be set for the date of removal.
Commissioner Sceran s amended his mention to allow November 7 to be set as the
date for re oval of the sign.
AYES- COMMISSIONERS: SCERANKA, 'pC)l STOY , DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: KING
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. NONE
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: REMPEL
The City Attorney apprised the Moffatts of the appeal procedure and indicated.
that a 1. t-ter to staff would start the procedure.
Commissioner Tempel returned to the table.
DIRECTOR'S S M •GIRT
WORK PROGRAM PRIORITIES
City Planner, Barry Hogan, reported to the Commission on the current project
and the new projects that the Planning Department is currently and forecasted
to work can e reviewed the ongoing projects where no firm date for completion
is set, the growth management items ;and. those items that are intermittent in
scrape', such as the Community unity Development loc Grant, Housing sst s ance plan'
and the Industrial Assessment District.
r. Hogan also provi.d.ed. the Commission with the history of the various consul-
tants who have worked on the General plan and advised the Commission ission of the �
proposed d schedule e for completion in danuaFry of 1981.
Chairman Bahl asked about the schedule that was set by the Commission at the
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Carl poly workshop in early September.
Hogan stated that he had included these items in this report.
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Mr. (Cogan provided a timetable for completion etion :of the Industrial Specific Plan
in December. He sta red -that it is hoped that the City will become an entitle-
ment pity in July of 1981 and. the City would be entering :into a Housing Assist-
ance plan. It was hoped., he stated that a housing Coordinator will be hired
and coordinate these areas,
Paul Rougeau provided the Commission with information on the Industrial Assess-
ment District, stating that public hearings are scheduled try begin at the end_
of November.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he would like to see something done on the
street names. Further, that if the Historical Committee would like to have
some assistance in that regard he would be willing to work Frith theca.
r. Hogan provided a schedule for the Victoria Plan and stated that it was
contingent on the time involved for City Council action
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There was discussion on the adult bookstore ordinance that is proposed for com-
pletion in J'anuary and. then considerable discussion on the proposed new zoning
ordinance and map 'that will take place after the General Plan is completed.
The notification procedure on the zoning ordinance was discussed. Mr. Hogan
stated that not ificat ion would. more than likely be through newspaper legal.
notices. Further, it is proposed that the zoning ardinance will be completed
in dui and the Department will be asking for additional staff to implement
the projects that will be taking place.
Mr. Hogan stated that all. new projects are as mere listed by the Planning Com-
mission at the Saturday meeting at Cal Poly and will be taken in the order es-
tablished by the Planning Commission.
Additionally, a property maintenance ordinance, recreation vehicle ordinance,
and tree preservation ordinance would be included, in the zoning ordinance so
that it would be a Wtal package.
Commissioner Rempel stated that staff should, be commended for a job well done.
There being no further discussion on the scheduled priorities, it was moved
by Rempel, seconded by Tolstay, carried tuianimously, to adjourn.
:20 P.M. The Planning Commission adjourned.
Resp otfi.1111' ubmitted,,
,JACK LAM, Secr-tary ------
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CITY OF RANCHO CUB AMONGA
PLANNING CONMISSION MEETING
October 8, 198o
Regular Meeting
CORRECTION
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND SITE APPROVAL NO. 8o-,il KINDER CARE - The
development of a day care facility -to accommodate 163 children on 1.09
acres of land in the AP zone, located on the northeast corner of 19th and
Hermosa - API - 202-191-13
Commisssioner Sceranka stated that he wished to make one more comment that
he felt strongly that if the Commission wants to see the street intersection
problems clear up, -the City must develop standards to allow development to
occur. He f-arther stated that he felt that this was a good use for this pro-
perty and that an A-P designation for this property will create more traffic
problems than the preschool will.
CITY OF RANCHO CUC MONGA
PIANNTNG CCt I SIC1N t� 1111ING
September 29, 1980
Adjourned Regular 'Meeting
CALL TO ORDFR
The adjourned regularmeetinpof the Planning Commission of the City of
Rancho Cucamonga, was held in the Lion's Park Communitly Building,
9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, on Monday. , September , 1980. ,
Meeting was called, -to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Dahl , who led in
the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Jeffery King defy" Sceranka,
Peter Tolato , Ric xaaxd Dahl
ACCENT. CC IC It 1ERS Herman pempel (Excused)
ALSO PRES ET: Jack Lam, Director jai' C rmrrunity Development; Barry- K. Hogan,
City Planner Edward A. Hopson, City Attorney; Pahl Roug,can,
Senior Civil Engineer; Lloyd Huhbs, City Engineer`
Chairman Dahl stated that this is the time and place for the review of the
Victoria Community Plan. It is 'the second. meeting in "a series of meetings:
and the topic for tonight is ra d scnaalon of Land Use. He then. asked
Iam for the presentation.
Jack Laxrw hector of C imnuait ° Development, announced that the third
meeting for the review of the Victoria Corrununi ty Plan will be held in the
to wa.ndd CoTamnui t , Room on Etiwanda Avenue beginning at 9:00 a.m. on
October 31, 1.980. He then asked Barry Hogan, City Planner, to present
the report.
Barry Hogan, City Planner, presented, the staff report which is on. file at
the Planning Division office. 'There were various questions regarding
schools and ripen apace,, park deficiency, trails a and lakes. It was
expl.ainc.d that the schools and open apace are separate from one another
even though they are adjacent. That the adjacency of the schools and
open apace was to add more space than would_be normally avall.aa.ble were
these uses separated. It was mated that, there is a tt acre pas,x .
deficiency which may 'ire made °eels at the ttrrae that, the specific cons ideraa.tion
of the tentative tracts is made and that the detailed discussion of the
deficiency should occur under the parks and Open Space category.; Mention
was made of the trail ayaterrr as to whether or not; there were additional
trails at, a, smaller legal than the community trails provided. It was
indicated, that there would be pa,aeoa that would ire inclradr.d within each
residential area to connect in-to the community ty trails e question on
the lakes referred to the kinds of maintenance and dedication that is being
requested . It was explained ined. that the details of the design of the lakes
would be before the Planning Commission at a later date at which
time they could look into the details of maintenance and lake design.
There being no other questions of Staff, Chairman Dahl opened the
public hearing portion of the meeting. He asked for public comment.
Andrew Barmakian of Barmakian and Wolff, expressed his concerns with
the plan. He said basically that he liked. the plan and said that it
was well-conceived for the most part, His particular concern was with
the southwest corner of Etiwanda and Rase Line. He referred to the
zoning th,,it the property presently enjoys and that it should be designated
as a neighborhood comnercial, center. Ile explained his view on traffic
circulation, indicating that the traffic that would normally come down
Etiwanda Avenue is being diverted to Day Creek Boulevard. It was his
opinion that traffic would find the area of least resistance and
essentially stay away from Day Creek Boulevard because of the high
volume that street woiLld have. This transfer of traffic would be
down Base Line and Et1wandaa. Avenue and would therefore make commercial
at the intersection more via'ble.
Mr. Hogan clarified some of the issues that were raised by Mr. Barmakitin
and answered some of his questions regarding land use.
Chairman Dahl asked SWA to respond to the issues raised by Mr. Barmakian.
Don Tonkins of SWA indicated that to design a plan around roads simply does
not work and will. give the City of Rancho Cucamonga another Los Angeles.
His indication was that the boundary of the Etiwanda, area is approximately
1000 feet west of Etiwanda Avenue and that to use the 'Etiwanda Avenue
as the boundary would eventually destroy the community that presently
exists in Etiwanda.
Mr. Barmakian said that he 'was sure that once the Etiwanda residents
get as chance to speak that they will show that they would want greater
density and not the preservation of the rural character.
The representatives of the Buddhist Temple came forward and explained the
usage of 'the Temple stating that it is primarily for regional use extending
to areas as far as Santa Barbara for meetings, marriages and funerals.
He liked the idea of the plan and had some concerns specifically, the use
of the Temple as as, buffer for the regional-related uses to the lower
windrow residential. tises and the use of the Temple as a buffer from the
regional-related uses. He indicated that it was the Temple's desire to
preserve the contemplative atmosphere in a, rural kind of setting and
that he believed protection through landscaping and setbacks would be
appropriate and acceptable. Additionally, he stated that he had some
concern with the specific uses proposed, in the regional-related use
area. His indication was that they should be more defined, so that
appropriate 'buffering could be employed. His basic desire was that the
character of the area shoiLld be preserved.
Kay Matlock, representative of Levis Homes, owners of the Terra Vista area,
south and westof the 'project stated their concerns are twofold* One,
that the commercial center located at Base Line and Millken should be
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removed or relocated to the Terra Vista, area to provide better service.
She indicated that they are proposing one shopping center near there.
Secondly, the regional-related commercial uses raises the question of
appropriate amount of commercial land and the spin off effects that it
may have on the City. Of particular concern are the uses proposed to
be located there and, whether or riot they should be more central to the
City. Should. there be limits and if so, what kind of limits? It should
be agreed that the market place should determine what goes there and
what is fair for Victoria should be fair for Terra Vista.
Mr. Hogan clarified, statements made on the regional-related use and
location. He stated, that regional-related uses are generally those
kinds of commercial and office uses that draw from the greater region
or regional customers and that the type of land uses or commercial
uses of which Ms. Matlock referred to would be more of a community nature
and that 'both could be put within the City of Rancho Cucamc)nga.
Commissioner Tolstoy commented on the need for regional-related uses and
concurred with the Staff recommendation. Also, he was concerned that a
statement should be put in that the development of the regional-related
uses should occur from Foothill.. northerly and be phased.
Chairman Dahl also stated his concern with the regional-related and 'use
and particularly, the uses allowed within the regional-related area. fie
would like to see a more clear definition in the -text.
Ronny Tannenbaum, Etiwanda resident, spoke of the character of the
Etiwanda community and its relation to Etiwanda Avenue. He indicated
that Etiwanda iAvenuee is, in fact, the center or focus of the Etivandct
community. He would like to encourage or like to see more cluster
housing in the A-Land Use area to preserve the relatively large 'blocks
of land areas with housing occurring now and then. fie sees Victoria
Parkway as a possible flaw in the plan in terms of the way it functions.
He believes that if 'there are riot proper controls put upon that road,
it will become a major thoroughfare through Victoria community. He
suggests that all a-utornobile use be removed from Victoria Parkway and
that it be used exclusively for transit such as a mini-bus.
Chairman Dahl asked for any responses or comments from the William Lyon
Company.
Don Tomkins of SWA Group representing the William Lyon Company indicated
that the Plan balances all. the land uses and most of the issues, have been
thoroughly explained before.
There being no additional comments, Chairman Dahl closed the public portion
of the Land Use review. He asked Commissioner Tolstoy to be-gin the comrnents
section. Commissioner Tolstoy said be would like to commend SWA and
William Lynn Company in a job well done. He concurred with the suggested
conditions of the staff report and the addition of the condition on the
phasing of the regional-related uses. He feels this approach is a better
way to go. He asked Gary Frye of the William Lyon Company if the school
districts had concurred with the, locationa proposed in the Victoria Plan
for schools.
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Mr. Frye responded that they had conc-urred at this point in time with
the locations.
Commissioner Tolstoy also mentioned. that he has some concern with the
location of the commercial center at Milliken and Highland and that perhaps
it might better be located on Victoria Parkway; however, he is not sure
whether this will, be appropriate in light of -the character or atmosphere
that the developer is trying to crewte along Victoria Parkway. He concurs
with Commissioner Dahl's use of pool.-sized lots in the B-Land Use and
the 25 percent seemed to be a good amount. He stated that the A-hand Use
is an important part of the plan and feels that it is excellent with the
special plantings and bufferings proposed.. He sees that Etiwand,a Avenue,
if used as a border or buffer of the rest of the Etivanda axes, would, in
fact, start the loss of the character of the Etiwanda community. He
likes -the trail system and would like to make sure that there is a good
well-planned trail system in each area at a, more local level J..e. , paseos.
Commissioner King stated he has some specific comments on other areas which
he will hold until later. He would It more time to digest al] the
comments mentioned tonight rather than make statement at this point. He
did, however, mention that in reviewing the plan, it appears that the
focuses of the villages are of a public nature and that this was
appropriate; however, he questioned whether or not there should be a
church located in the area of Victoria Vineyards as part of that public
focus.
Commissioner Sceranka, has serious concerns about the impact of this
development on Rancho Cucrvnonga. He is sure that Etivanda Avenue is
the key to preserving the character of the Etivanda community and he
believes that the plan does not destroy -that character. He is, however,
having some problem with the east-west traffic in Victoria. He, made
the point that people who lived in Victoria <would be wor in southwest
in Rancho Cucamonga and the region. He also is in favor of using the
windrows in Etivanda as a buffer in additional to increasing setbacks
for housing and, design of homes along Etiwanda Avenue. He cites
a,iclid Avenue as an example.
He agreed with the comments made by the representative of the Buddist
Temple, that there should, be height and size restriction on the regional-
related uses adjacent to the Temple in order to provide adequate buffering
and protection.
Chariman Dahl stated that be felt the plan is excellent, in addressing
the issues of the area- His concern, as mentioned earlier, is with the
B-Land Use area containing pool-size lots which me-an 35 foQt rear yard
for ap L and Use. The windro w area along
, proximately 25 percent of the B-
Etiwanda Avenue is beautiful and he would like to see more infor7ftation
on the buffering of the.A-Land. Use and its retention of the rural
character. He concurred that affordable housing should be 15 percent,
but that the 15 percent should be over all of the entire plan, not for
each village. He did not believe that there should be stratificat;ion
created by this.
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Commissioner Tolstoy agreed with Chairman Dahl but wanted assurances that
the lionsing remain affordable. He was unsure as to when the subject
should be discussed. Community Development Director, Jack Lam. , explained
the issue of affordable housing and the options for resale controls. lie
indicated that Staff is currently, investigating the methods for controls
and that the whole area will. µbe dealt with in the Housing EKlement of the
General Plan.
Commissioner Sreran feels that one of the ma, or aspects of the plan is
the smaller lots proposed and that one of the major problems with developers
is that of land cost. With the smaller lots the would be an ability to
provide lower cost housing. He also added that with the recreation
facilities proposed in the Victoria area, it may lessen the -need or desire
for pool-si ze lots.
Chairman Dahl countered that in areas with amenities there are also
pools. The community should give>something to all and it should be
provided lie had some concerns with the controls with the regional-related
uses south of the Temple and feels that there should be no ingress or
egress to Etiwanda venue from that regional-related area. He agrees
with Staff's suggestion to remove the commercial status for Base Line
and Milliken; however, he has some concern with the center on Victoria
Parkway and Base Line Road,
Commissioner Tolstoy noted that the City should look for strong interaction
between the Victoria Community Plan and the Terra Vista Community Plan.
He would like to see the parkway along Mil liken have some relationship
to Terra Vista in some manner. He is not advocating that there be an
Victoria Parkway in Terra Vista but that there be a, strong relationship
to both plans.
The City Planner sir miarized, the Coirmissioners' comments basically stating
that they agreed with the conditions recommended in the staff report
regarding land use and asked if they wished to see: 1) more specific
uses in the regional-related area with specific concern around the Terrple;
2) that 'the applicant present at future meetings drawings or slides
showing the buffering along Base Line Road proposed near Etivanda Avenue;
3) that the applicants plans, indicate landscape buffering between the
Temple and the regional-related uses; 4) that there be an additional
condition on the phasing of the regional-related uses to start from
Foothill, Boulevardnortherly; 5) that there by 25 percent of the B-Land
Use residences reserved for pool-si.ze lots, i.e. , 35 foot deep rear yards.
The City, Planner indicated that on the October 11 meeting scheduled in
the Etiwanda area, that should there not be a big public turnout for
that meeting, that the Commission should be prepared to discuss -the issues
of circulation, parks and open space. Also, he indicated that the Commission
should be prepared 'to select the next two items for review end set the
next two meeting dates for review of Victoria.
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Commissioner Tolst y moved that the meeting be adjourned to the October
regular meeting, seconded by King, .rni. nan ousl .
10:10 p.m. The Planning Commission adjourned.
Respe tull. sub ittd,
JACK LAI , ntr
CITE CAP RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September 24, 18
Regular Meeting
CALIF TO ORDER
e regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
was held in the Lionis Park Community Padding, 9161 Rase Line Read,
Rancho Cucamonga, on Wednesday, September 24, 1 80.
Meeting was called l.ed to order at 7:02 p.m. by Chairman Dahl, who led in the
pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Jeffery King, Jeff* Sceranka, Herman Rempsl,
Peter Tolstoy, Richard Dahl
ABSENT:< COMMISSIONERS; done
i a City Planner;
Cat Attorney; Barry � o n C Pla�nrz
ALSO PRESENT: Bob Dougherty, y � y 5
Otto routil, Associate Planner; Joan Kruse, Secretary;
Jack Lam, Director of Community ;Development; Paul Rou. eau
Senior Civil. Engineer; Michael Vairin, Senior Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1
Commissioner King requested. that the minutes be corrected to indicate that
Bob Dougherty was present as City Attorney at the September 10, 1980 meeting
and further requested that the minutes reflect that he and not Commissioner
Scera.nka asked the City Attorney about newly adopted State legislation to
allow mob lehommos on R-1 property.
Motion: Moved by Scera.n, a, seconded by King, carried unanimously, to approve
the September 1.0, 1980 Panning Commission minutes as corrected.
AYES: COMTSSIONERS,. SCERANKA, KING, REMPEL, 'TQLSTQY, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: DONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried-
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Community Development Director, Jack Lai, reminded the Commission of the
next scheduled hearing on the Victoria Planned Community, September 29, 1980,
:00 p.m. in the Co unity Building. Mr. Lam stated that land use, circulation
and parks; and open space are the items for discussion at this meeting.
Lam stated that the Planning Commission had requested staff to establish
* workshop can the Victoria Plan in the : tiwanda, area.. Mr. Lam indicated that
a meeting would be held in the Etianda Co vanity Room can Saturday, f
October 11, 1980 and would begin at 9:00 a.m.
Lam advised that on September 30 a meeting of the Sturm Drain Committee
would be held in the City Manager's Conference doom and would begin at
:00 a.m.
The :items for discussion would be the neat Phase of the Sturm Drain Master
Plana Study and the Day. Creek issue.
On October 61, Mr. Lam stated, there will be d Citizens advisory Committee
meeting to present tine proposed General Plan raft Land Use Map. Mr. Lsm
stated that on October P a tentative meeting has been scheduled for the
CSC to establish a position paper they may wish to Prepare for the
Planning Commission and City Council Mr. Lam further stated that the
CAC would receive the teat of the General Plan by the middle of the month.
r. Lan reported that Saturday, November 1, has tentatively been set for
the presentation of the General Plan, main and text by the Planning Consultant.
This is anticipated to be a. lengthy meeting There all the mans and. 'the
complete text of the C3enera,l. Plan and the bill: will: be transmitted to the
Planning Commission.
On another matter, Mr. Lam stated that gander the Ci owth Management ement, ;Plan
all filings are to be reviewed prior to the net filing period. Mr. Lam
stated that the Planning Commission can expect to receive the first batch
of filings at the second meeting in October, the second batch at the first
meeting -in November, and the third batch the second meeting in November.
Mr. Lam stated that if there is a time overrunof' :these, filings they will
be taken up during the first ieetin in December. The master resolution
ern
approving the final tracts will be adopted at the last meeting in December.
. Ltun stated that the first meeting of the Design Review Committee :is
scheduled. for Thursday, September 26 to review the tracts which have been
submitted.
y a ."
bad, been changed for
a :asked aef-the date f October ;1. a b
Commissioner Tlstc� sip
y
a proposed meeting on, the Victoria Plan,
Barry Hogan, City Planner, indicated that, because nothing had been Confirmed
at the time the October 1 date was proposed, it had been rescheduled t
October 1.1.
Chairman Dahl stated that he had been reclt_zest;ed to change appointments
to the Planning Commission Committees by Commissioners Cceranka and, Mini;.
Mr . Dahl. suggested that because of an imbalance in committees, Commissioner
King be appointed to the Zoning Committee instead of Co issioner Seerdnka
to serve with Commissioner Hempel Curtirissierer Tolstoy will remain as the
alternate to the committee.
Motion: Moved, by Sceranka, seconded by PemPel., carried. unanimously, to
approve this committee change.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONNIEW2AL ASSESSIvTNT AND SITE APPROVAL NO. C-CisRANCHO DISPOSAL
Planning Commission Minutes - September Pia, 1_980
The development of a truck and equipment storage yard on 2 acres within the
M-2 zone located. at 8908 Hyssop:
City planner, Barry; Hogan, reviewed the staff report indicating that the
Design Review Committee had worked with the applicant and reached: concurrence
on changes on the proposed site approval. Mr. Mogan further indicated that
a Revolution of Approval'`had been prepared should. the Planning Commission
find that this project meets their_desires and that appropriate conditions
relative to approval are included in the Resolution.
Commissioner T lstoy asked if the freeway right-of-way ends at the west
boundary of this project.
Mr. Hogan replied that it ends at the southwest corner of the property.
Commissioner Tol.stoy they asked if in the future theremight be ar use of
the property- for the freeway.
Mogan replied that there could be such a use.
Commissioner King asked if in light of the recent legislation governing
trailers, would, it be possible to use a trailer as a temporary office
building beyond- the two-year period stipulated in the conditions.
Mr. Dougherty, Assistant City Attorney, replied that the legislation
governed mtobilehome in -1 zones and that they were for residential
use only.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing
Joe Moore, representing Rancho Disposal, the applicant, stated that he
was ready to answer' any questions the Commissionmight, have and requested
that the Commission approve this project.
There were no further comments by the Commission or from the floor and: the
public hearing was closed
Commissioner Tdlstoy stated that he wished. to make one revision to the
conditions and requested`that 'if the applicant does not have a permanent
building constructed within a: two-year period, that a block wall be
constructed on -the north side of the property, There was discussion among
the Commissioners on this condition.
Chairman Dahl polled the Commission and found that there was general
agreement on this; however, Commissioner Rempel stated that he was opposed
because he felt it to be arbitrary to make such a'condition at this time-
Motion: Moved by T lstoy, seconded by King, carried to approve Site approval
No. 80-04 and adopt: a Resolution of Approval with an amendment to require
a six-foot high block wall on the entire north property line to be
constructed would a permanent building not be completed within a two-year
period
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AYES: COMMISSIONERS:; TOLSTOY, KING, SCERANKA,, DAHL,
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: REMPEL
SENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried.-
ENVIRONMENTAL NT ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP NO. 31 -C, Id 1.8 acres of land
to be divided into three ( ) parcels located on the north side of 8th Street,
west of Vineyard°d Avenue AP T; 07-271-4 ..
Paul Rougea.u, Senior Civil Engineer, reviewed the staff report stating that
this property can be safely protected from any Storm drain flows and will
not have any adverse impacts on the surrounding area;.
Commissioner T lstoy asked where the catch basin would be and how it would.
work.-
Rouge au. replied: that them is large storm. drain in 8th Street that had
been constructed several years ago as a part of a subdivision in Ontario and
that it drains into Cucamonga Creek. He further stated that it, empties
into the southeast corner of the property and when 8th Street is improved,
it should provide a; normal catch basin for it.
Commissioner Tol.stoy asked where Cucamonga Creek is in relation to this
parcel.
pougeau replied that it is to the east about one-half mile
Commissioner King asked what the depth of the three parcels is on this
project
Mr. Rouge .0 replied that it is roughly 100 feet.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing.
Robert Craig, 2137 S. Hathaway, Santa Ana, stated that he was' ready
to answer any questions the Planning Commission Might have regarding this
Commissioner King asked the applicant if he had any concerns relative to
the depth` of this parcel.
Craig replied that he did not have any.
No one else spoke in favor of, or was opposed to, this project, and
Cha.riman Pahl colsed the public hearing
Commissioner Tolstoy asked the size of the storm drain
Roug du replied that the one under dtb Street is 42 inches and that the
one under the street may be smaller.
Commissioner Hempel stated that this is one of the very best uses that can
be fade for this property and will help the residential area by the buffering
than this project can provide,
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Motion. Moved by R mpel seconded by Sc"eranka, carried: unanimously, t
issue a. Negative Declaration and adopt Resolution No. 80-48, approving
this parcel map.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RE EL, SCERANKA, KING, ?i'OLSTOY, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
SENT: COMMISSIONERS: NO -carried-
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ZONE CHANGE NO. 80-1.8 »- R.J. INVESTMENTS -
.A request for a change of zone from R-l-'I to -8 on 5.5 acres of land
located on the south side of Foothill Boulevard, vest of Baker Avenue
APN 208-i9l-49and 48.
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff" report.
Commissioner Talstoy asked how wide Baker Avenue i to be.
Mr. Rou e .0 replied that, curb to curb width is intended to be 4 -Feet
wide can. 66-feet of right-of-war. Further, that it is intended to be z
collector strut.
Commissioner Sceranka asked. if -there have been any comments relative to
this proposed zone change from the public..
Mr. Vairin indicated that there had been. none.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing.
William F. Fuk taki, 1 067 Murphy Avenue, Irvine, addressed the Commission.
He mated his agreement with the staff report and further stated that his
goal is to make this proposed development look like a mansion.
Michael Vairin; stated that should this zone change be approved, this project
must go -through Growth Management .and can be`mo1 ded. or changed to the
desires of the planning o i lion.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if access to the west will be th ou h ga.tes.
Mr. Fukut ki replied that there will be closed gates and that there will
be no other wad to get through.
Chairman Dahl asked if there was anyone in favor of or opposed to this
project.
Glen Ogden, 8324 Comet Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated his opposition
because he believed: them would be increased traffic, and a, ,lowering of
property values.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked. if Mr. Ogden would be opposed to this project
if it were buffered and garages were provided.
Ogden replied that he 'was not opposed to the project because now it
is so indefinite; he would consider the buffering at a later time.
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Chariman Dahl stated than this is a zone change and does not mean that the
project is being approve at this time. ,
Tyr. Ron McCleary, 8364 Comet addressed. the Commission. He inquired about
the meaning of R-3 zoning and whether the applicant would be able to change
from condominiums to apartments
Chairman Dahl stated that it might be the other way around.
. McCleary asked what the tentative price range will be.
Chairman Dahl stated that it would be it the area. of 5 ,000- 70, 00.
. McCleary then asked when these units might be built.
Mr. Lam replied that if rezoning is recommended, it must go `to the City
Council for approval. If the applicant receives rezoning he must then wait
until the December filing period and consideration for approval al will not
begin until 1981. Actual building would not begin until 2982.
Alan Snapp, Architect for this project,, st"ated, that the design theme
to be used on this ,project is to enhance the existing housing. He stated
than the units will, be scaled;down and no garage roofs will be visible
from the project.
Commissioner Rempel.' stated that access can the back of the project must be
limited so as not to impair the residential tract.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that he was in favor of the zone change and
that this project dines not decrease property values and, in fact, may
enhance values.
Commissioner T lstoy stated that he felt that this project would not
decrease property values but that he had a problem with Baker. He asked if
this property is zoned R-3 will it be able to handle the traffic that will
be generated, and if a traffic signal is planned at Foothill Boulevard and
Baker Avenue?
. Rougeau replied that this would depend on CAL AN .
Barry Hogan stated that in the future, the Planning Commission may wish
to have a traffic study prepared.
Motion: Moved by Tolsto , seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously, to
approve this zone change,
AYES;. COMMISSIONERS: TOL l'CY, C M� A, KING, REMTIEL, D HL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NON
ABSENT- CCU SSIO IMS:` BONE -carried-
ZONE CHANGE NC): 80-1 - A Zone change request for 16 acres of land located
on the northeast corner of Base Swine and Archibald ,Avenue from R- -15
(single family residential) to C'--1 (limited commercial) - APT 2ol-181-1 , 21 & 22.
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Lam requested that this item be postponed and rescheduled for the
October 22 Planning orm ssion meeting.
Mr. Hogan stated. that the property owners will be renoticed can this item..
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Motion. Moved by Tolstoy, seconded. by Sceranka, carried unanimously, to
postpone this item to the October 22, 1980 meeting:
8:02 p.m. The Planning Commission recessed .
8:22 p.m The Planning Commission reconvened.
NEW BUSINESS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND 11RECTOR REVIEW 80- 0 - DEACON - The development
of a 30,000 square foot office building on 1.84 acres in. the R-3 zone
(A-P pending) located on the west aide of Archiba:l:d. Avenue, 150 feet south
of Devon Street _ APN 208-801-39 and. 40, Los Palmas Professional Center.
Michael Vairin Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report and provided
the Commission with exterior elevations of the proposed project.
Chairman Dahl asked if there were any plans for the center median can
Archibald.
Mr. Va%rin replied that this would be a future consideration.
Commissioner Sdera_n_ka asked it there are any
plane for special boulev
ards.
airin replied that if there is anything in particular that txe Commission
would like -to consider staff should be advised, however, nothing '.s proposed
as yet.
Chairman Dahl asked if Mr. Stan Page, representing; the developer, had
anything to add,
Mr. Page indicated that, he felt it to be a good project for Archibald Avenue.
Commissioner King asked Mr. Page if he had any problem with being required to
put in a. meandering sidewalk in front of the premises or with the landscaping
required.
Page replied that what is good for the City was good for then..
Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Rempel, carried unanimously, to
approve Director Review No. 0- 0 and adapt a; resolution of approval.
AYES® S TSSIONERS SCERANKA, REMPEL, KING, ` OLSTOY, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried-
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ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR TENTATIVE TRACT NO. loo88 - DUNITZ/LEVENTHAL
Tract subdivision on 82.8 acres into 124 single family residential lots in ,
the R-1- C,000 zone, located on the northeast corner of Archibald Avenue and
Carrari Street -- APN 01-0 j l-14, 37 and: 45.
Barry Hogan, City Planner, reviewed the staff report stating that based
upon review of the Initial Study, it was found that the project has a.
potential to degrade quality of the environment and create short and
long term environmental problems'. Mr. Hogan further stated that if the
Commission concurs with these potential environmental impacts then they
must require the preparation of an. Environmental Impact Report. If the
Commission concurs with Staff's findings, theca it is recommended that a
focused Environmental Impact Report be prepared to cover these areas as
outlined in the Initial. Study.
Chairman ,Dahl asked if the applicant was present
Mr. Doug '.Mays of L.- D. ding Engineering, 517 N. Euclid Street, Ontario,
stated that he represented the applicants, Webb and Nicosia, and stated
that he felt that the environmental concerns could be mitigated and that
a focused, EIR was unnecessary-. Mr. Mays described, the slope conditions
to the Commission and. stated that they could be stabilized through proper
use of groundcover.
Commissioner Talstoy asked Mr.. Mays if he Liked the grading across the
street from this proposed project:.
m Mays replied that he did, Mr. Mays also provided a handout to the
Commission that graphically illustrated what was proposed.
Commissioner Dahl asked if the tract allowed, for equestrian easements.
Mr. Mays replied that it dial. not.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if Mr. Says had ever observed Alta Loma Creek
when it is running.
Mr. :Mays replied that he had not.
Commissioner Sceranka asked Mr. Mays if he would explain the statement in
the Initial Study "no significant changes, in ground conditions".
. Mays replied that it was a mistake and. should not have been included in
the Study.
Commissioner Scera ka asked if the developer was to do a. f"R :on this property and
lessened grading, if it would significantly deter these houses selling at a;
reasonable price or would a cluster RU increase the price beyond 'reasonable
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limits.
. Maya replied that the off-the-cuff figures would indicate that there
would be less yield and would therefore increase the price.
Commissioner Rdmpel, stated that Mr. Mays indicated that the grater problem
could. be <easily worked. out. He further stated that the water amount collected
would increase considerably lose to theslopes as proposed. Mr. Rempel felt
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r. Mays replied that he u.nd.erstood the concern but he had some figures
that shored that the runoff is small, by comparison.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he lived in this area:and he felt that
further study is needed on this.
Mr. Lam provided the Commission with a definition of a focused ETR for
those areas that needed to be addressed.
Chairman Dahl. explained the prior requirements of the Commission relative
to Hillside development.
Considerable discussion -look places regarding the grading and. hydrology
of this project.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he would like to see a topographic model
of the proposed grading on this project before coring to a decision.
Following- further discussion, Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he would
not like to see this type of development because the applicant proposed
be change the lay of the land. Further-, that people in the community have
staved that they do not want to see this type of development any more.;
On aesthetics alone, Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he would not like
the project. Continuing, Commissioner Tolstoy stated that this piece of
land lends itself to a. very nice project and that if the applicant can
come, up with something significant it would be nice..
Barry Hogan stated that as a point of clarification, the applicant could
withdraw and resubmit or there could be; a, focused 'FIR addressing what was
outlined and the alternatives, Mr. Hogan further stated that what he
would not like to see is the applicant go away with the thought that if
a focused EZB is done his project will be accepted..
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he would like the applicant to take the
project and rethink it.
Commissioner Pempel; started that tom°. Maya had.: seen copies of what the Design
Review Committee will look for and that it could be seen that this kind of
tract would not get a very high point rating.
r. Webb owner of this project, started that he was getting the implication
that the Commission is not looking favorably on thins project and that
perhaps d P.D. would. be a. better usage of this land. He stated that he
would agree to that. He asked that the project remain in Line until_ they
could come up with a better design because they cannot 'afford to wait.
He further stated that he would like to work with the City in whatever way
they can.
Chairman Dahl stated that the Commission could continue this to the
December filing.
Webb asked if the application should be withdrawn.
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Mr. Hogan stated that if the project is withdrawn the fees would be lost
Motion. Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Tolstoy, carried unanimously, to
continue this to the December filing period with the applicants consent.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 10210 - LAWLOR - A custom
lot subdivision of 160 acres into 129 lots comprising of 126 units in the
R-1-20,000 zone and the R-1-14,000 zones generally located on the: north
side of Almond, between. Sapphire and.. Turquoise - Al<'N 0-1 1-07.
Michael Va.i.rin Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report which indicated that
based. upon '.review and preparation of the Initial Study, staff has found that
the mandatory findings of significance indicate that this project could have
significant adverse impacts upon the environment. Further, that if the
Commission consur , a focused Environmental Impact Report analyzing these
areas of concern should be prepared.
Commissioner King stated: that he would abstain from any discussion and
voting on this item because of a conceivable or theorit cal conflict o
interest Commissioner King then left the room.,
Chairman Dahl asked if the applicant was present
Mr. Leon Keddi ig, representing Grey Lawlor, the applicant, reported that
Layton and Associates had prepared the report for the lnti.ai Study with
the mitigation measures indicating that property should be located 50
feet from the Fault` location.
Mr. Kedding also stated that the Almond: Interceptor would carry all drainage
from this development and transfer it to Cucamonga Creek.
Relative to utilities and public services, Mr. Kedding stated that the
applicant is willing to build another fire station in the area. He felt
.that' the problem wash fire department response time could be mitigated'
through this building and indicated that they were willing to meet with
the Fire Department to disc-ass a, per lot fee.
Chairman Dahl asked if the area will have equestrian trails
. Keddi:ng stated that this question had not come up but felt that 3t
could be worked out.
Michael Vairin stated that in view of this new information he would suggest
that the determination be continued.'
Commission Tolstoy stated that the' applicant had. mentioned a homeowners
association and wanted to know how the open space was proposed to be taken
care of. He further stated the importance of being up front with
prospective home buyers.
Commissioner Sceranka, asked how drainage will affect lots directly north
of the fault line.
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Mr. Kettering stated that most cities and counties allow cross lot
drainage and this is what is proposed here. Further, Mr. Kettering
stated he felt that this could be worked out through CC&B's.
Mr. Lam stated that cross lot drainage is not such a problem on large
lots.
Motion: Moved by Rempel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried to continue this
item until such time as additional. information is available to allow
staff to determine whether a focused FIR is necessary.
Commissioner Sceranka abstained stating that he felt that there are several
questions to be resolved and he questioned whether this is the best way
of handling it.
9:50 P.m. Planning Commission recessed,
10:05 P.m. Planning Commission reconvened.
Mr. Lam stated that in accordance with Planning Commission policy, if a
project is not consistent with Growth Management Filing it goes to the
next filing period. If it does not have a date certain, it goes to the
next filing period.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 11550 - NEEVA - A
residential condominium project consisting of 662 units on 65 acres
generally located on the south side of Wilson, one-half mile east of
Haven, in the A-1-5 zone (zone change to R-3 pending) APN 201-191-0'(.
Senior Planner, Mike Vairin, gave the staff report and indicated that
there were residents of the Deer Creek subdivision with questions regarding
proposed densities of this tentative tract. Mr. Vairin further stated
that densities would be better addressed at the General Plan hearings
and that the environmental impacts should be addressed at this hearing.
Traffic and circulation also need examination to be sure that traffic
does not all come out of the same side. Mr. Vairin asked the Planning
Commission for direction and possible traffic standards for -this project.
Chairman Dahl stated that in looking at the Rancho Cucamonga zoning map
there appears to be a curve where Wilson would be located.
Mr. Vairin stated that it goes to the Flood Control Channel..
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the project goes through what the liability
would be for the development of the extension of Wilson and Milli .in.
Mr. Rougeau replied that it is conceptual because of what has already
been constructed at Deer Creek and around the radius. Further, that
this development would normally be required to build on whatever side
it borders or creates.
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Commissioner `folstoy asked who is going to take this across Deer Creek.
Paul: Rougeau replied that this will have to be faced in the future.
Commissioner Tolstay stated that this would be a real traffic problem.
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provided in the design of this project to enhance open space.
Chairman Dahl asked the applicant if he had any comments to make.
°. :Garry Wolff, architect representing Heevaj, addressed the Commission
and stated that the major objective of the project, was to make a self-
contained community which meant that circulation would be worked out for
the entire project, the entire project would be bordered by masonry
pilasters and walls that form recessed landscaping, a security guard
gate and other amenities would be provided.. Mr. Wulff asked that the
Planning Commissionapprove phase one of this tract and provide conceptual
- approval on the rest of the project. Mr. Wolff stated that he was not
opposed to a traffic study and would work with Chaffey College and the
Leer Creek project can this. Mr. Wulff indicated that he had not received.
any word from either Chaffey College or the Leer Creek community on
plans that were forwarded to them for information.
Commissioner Tol.stoy stated that the Chaffey "College faculty should be
consulted because they would have some problem with being walled in by
a line of buildings He felt that this project did not address the
open; space issue raised at the time of the Interim General Plan.;
Mark Ruzsky, 10842 Wilson, in the Veer Creek tract, indicated that
when he told his wife of this project she wanted to more. He felt that
there would be traffic problems and inquired about the preservation of
horse trails and how they would be affected by this larger development'.
He requested that a complete EIR be done on this project.
Commissioner Sceranka asked if this is a condominium project..
Wolff answered that it is
Roy Achauler, 1,1028 Wilson, stated, that it was his understanding that
the area the project is in has been rezoned medium density over the
objections of the Leer Creek residents. He further stated that this will
be challenged in the public hearings on the General Plan when the time
comes. Mr. Achauler also stated that the residents have discussed this
project with Chaf f ey College and faculty and they have indicated their
support in the challenge-. One of his concerns, he said, is that the
general plan for this area as proposed uses 2.3 cars per household
which would amount to 1300 additional,a,l, cars. Because of the equestrian
makeup of the Deer Creek community, there would, be a problem because
cars and horses do not mix. He further felt that additional buffering
is needed here:
Commissioner Sceranka asked Mr. Achauler if medium density implies a
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negative thing.
. Achanler replied that increased traffic would be a problem as what
is proposed is not compatible with the area;. Security is a. problem and
parse trails that a.lread.y exist in this ;area, are a concern as a private
community with miles of horse trails will now have to compete with
pedestrian walkways. These easements are on private property and it
raises questions of liability not to mention aesthetics.
. Jack Delaney, 5353 Amethyst, requested that an EIR be required on
a project of this size.-
. Jim Wesley, 10962 Wilson, indicated: that he could not at this time
state whether he is for or against the project as he has not been
provided with enough information;.
Chairman Dahl asked that staff provide answers to residents upon request.
Mr. 'Vairin replied that information would be provided upon request.
Commissioner Rempela stated that this project is just now starting into
Design Review and is not a determination of whether this tract will b '
allowed.
Mr. foam stated; that what is being done tonight is determining ghat problems
must be addressed--that we cannot further review the project without
considering the issue of -traffic. This may affect the design of the
project and its approval.,
Commissioner Talstoy suggested that the residents of Deer Creek Bret with
the owner and architect to discuss the project
Mr. -Lam stated, that the applicant had been advised by the Planning Staff
of the importance of meeting with the Deer Creek residents as a matter of
information.
Mr. hoer Cuddeth, 5695 Canistel, stated that he represented the Deer Creek,
Homeowners Association and information is what he wanted. He further stated
that the report that is before the Commission is incomplete. he requested
that he meet with staff and the developer to address some of the concerns
that they have.
`r. Lam stated: that this is a controversial issue and that communication
is not what it should be between the applicant and the residents. He
further stated. that `staff is in need of more i.nforma-tion and until there
is an understanding of what issues 'there are there is no reason to move
forward on this. Mr. Lam felt this should be placed on the next review
period
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that an environmental evaluation is needed
to address soil., geology, transportation, utilities, hydrology, cumulative
impact on surrounding lard uses as well ;as socio-economic, and health and
safety issues, and recommended that a focused :alp be completed .
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Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously,
to require a focused EIR on the above issues.
Following the motion, Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the applicant should
be told that this project will be ca:rried over to the December period.
Hogan replied that all applicants will be notified to tell them when
their project will again be heard by the Commission.
Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by King, carried unanimously, to go
beyond the 11:00 p.m. time set for adjournment by Planning Commission
Administrative Regulations.
11:05 pm. The Planning Commission recessed.
11-:15 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened.
CENTRAL PLAN CONSISTENCY ISSUES FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL FILING SUBJECT TO
GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development, reviewed the staff report
and provided three alternatives for the following projects: Tentative
Tract No. 11610 (P.D. 80-03) R.L.S. Associates, Tentative Tract No. 11614
(P.D. 80004) The Development Company; Tentative Tract No. 11595 (P.D. 80-06)
Lewis Homes of California; Tentative Tract No. 1-1597 (P.D. 80-07) Lewis
Homes of California; Tentative Tract No. 11598 (P.D. 80-05) Lewis Homes
of California; Tentative Tract No. 11599 (P.D. 80-08) Lewis Homes of
California. Mr. Lan stated that the applicant could choose to voluntarily
continue review of the project; or, in accordance with the State Map Act
and State General Plan consistency, the Planning Commission could review
the projects and deny them based upon inconsistency with the General Plan;
or, the applicant can withdraw the application for resubmittal at a future
submittal period.
Following Mr. Lam's report, Chairman Dahl addressed, a question regarding
the City Council's intent in allowing the Lewis Company to file their
projects to the Council Members in attendance at this meeting.
Council Member Bridge stated that upon legal counsel's advise, the Lewis
Company has a legal right to file.
Councilmem. ber Palombo concurred with Mr. Bridge's statement.
Mr. Lam stated that this matter was brought before the City Council for
needed clarification.
Mr. Hogan stated that the Lewis tracts have been accepted for filing.
In order to process the applications submitted, the Planning Commission
has two alternatives, either to deny or ask the applicant to withdraw.
The City Attorney stated that any inconsistencies with the General Plan
would have to be brought up at the time of processing and that the map
should not be brought before the Planning Commission before it is ready.
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Council Member bridge slated that there was considerable discussion on
this at the City Council meeting and Mr. Lewis made a remark that he
was aware of the fees and what the filing requirements are and advised
that it was their legal right to pay the fee and. submit the paperwork
and the City Council concurred. Mr. Bridge further stated that he did
not feel that it is appropriate to go into further discussion on this
point at this meeting:
. Mogan stated that the filing has been accepted: and is before;the
Commission tonight but that there is a time problem with the proposed
General_ Plan. Further, that a General Flan amendment must be considered
pricer to any use in the alternative and since the General Pfau is scheduled`
to be heard on November ';1, Staff cannot do anything with this map until
that time.. Mr. Hogan indicated that there is a time crunch because of
the proposed. General Plan and requested that these items be continued to
the January 14, 1981 meeting which would allow processing before the
December filings and give the Planning Commission and Staff opportunity
to review the maps.
Mr. Lam reiterated that Staff is not making the recommendation endati on only for
the Lewis Company but for the other applicants as well.
Considerable discussion took place regarding the filing procedure.
Commissioner Sceranka asked if Council has the right to direct Staff to
continue to process the filings
The City attorney answered that it did.
Commissioner King asked if any of theses have had an EIl . "
Mr. Lam explained the problem with making an SIP determination.
Commissioner Dahl stated that every if the applicants were allowed to
file, they should know whether their project will meet threshold.
Further discussion took palace with the consensus of the Commission being
that there should be a compromise.,' It was determined that when the
proposed General Plan is seen, and there is agreement, then the projects
can be filed during the second meeting in January.
The City attorney stated that there would be a. problem with this without
the consent of they applicant,,
Mr, Tom Harris of the Development Group 'asked if the Commission will be
ready to rule on January 14, on what Staff feels should be done on their
project and other projects.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that they will already have been, given a,
point rating.
Harris stated that he would formally indicate that the applicant will
agree to continue Tentative Tract 11614 to the January 14 meeting. He also
asked about bonus paints that might be <awarded for submitting a PUD.
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12:05 p.m. The Planning Commission recessed.
1 :10 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened .
Chairman Dahl stated that he understood that the Levis es agreed to
continue these tracts to the January 14 meeting when the General Plan
will be known. Further, that this will allow the month of December
to finalize processing ;nd will ensure that these projects nave ahead
Faster than the December growth management filings.
The Planning Commission palled all the applicants to see whether they
would agree to this continuance
All applicants, R.L.S. Associates, The Development Company, and Lewis
Homes agreed
Motion: ' Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Rempel, carried unanimously, to
continue this to January 14 with the consent of the applicants.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion. Moved, by Tolsto , seconded by Rempel, carried unanimously, t
adjourn to September 29, 1980, at the Liens Park Community Building,,
7:00 p.m. for a continued public hearing on the Victory Project.
12:15 a.m. The Planning Commission adjourned
Re p tfull s; bmitted,
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JACK LAM,, Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September 16, 1980
Adjourned Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
The, adjourned regular meeting of the Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission,
to review the Victoria Planned Community, was held in the Lion's Park Com-
munity Building, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, on Tuesday, Septem-
ber 16, 1980.
Meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Dahl , who led in the
pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Jeffery King, Jeff Sceranka, Herman Rempel ,
Peter Tolstoy, Richard Dahl
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None
ALSO PRESENT: Bob Dougherty, City Attorney; Barry Hogan, City Planner;
Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer; Jack Lam, Director of Commu-
nity Development; Joan Kruse, Secretary
Chairman Dahl stated that the City Council had requested that a member of
the Planning Commission be appointed to serve on the Fiscal Task Force.
Commissioner Rempel nominated Commissioner Sceranka because of his effort
in formulating the Task Force.
Commissioner Tolstoy nominated Commissioner King because of his legal ex-
pertise.
Chairman Dahl asked if there would be any objection to deciding upon the
appointee by a flip of the coin. There being none, Commissioner Sceranka
was selected as the appointee to the Fiscal Task Force, with Commissioner
King to serve an an alternate.
Chairman Dahl turned the meeting over to Director of Community Development,
Jack Lam, who gave a background report on the Victoria planned community
and the work that had taken place on it over the past year and a half.
Mr. Lam stated that the William Lyon Company and Barry Hogan, City Planner,
would make a presentation to the Commission on the project .
Barry Hogan, City Planner, reviewed the staff report and stated that there
would be six areas of discussion relative to this project tonight and began
with the plan objectives and the criteria for approval . He stated that
the review process would be discussed later; he then went on to brief the
Commission on the planned community relationship with existing ordinances
and a statistical summary.
Mr. Lam stated that this is the first official public hearing on this pro-
ject and that legal notices had been sent to everyone pursuant to legal
requirements. Mr. Lam indicated that anyone wishing to speak to specific
issues would be invited to do so at the meetings to be held on those items.
He indicated that those persons should register their name and topic for
the record so that their concern may be addressed at a later time.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if hearing notifications would also be sent to
property owners for future meetings
Mr. Lam replied that, notice would be sent for all future meetings . Mr . Lam
also stated that a copy of the text of the Victoria Plan had been placed in
the San Bernardino County, Rancho Cucamonga branch library and City Hall for
anyone interested in it. Further, that single copies are available at City
Hall for those who wish to pick' it u .
Commissioner Tolstoy Mated that it would be a good idea to also place a
copy in the Etiwanda area.
Chairman Dahl then introduced Mr. Gary Frye, representing the Wm. Lyon Co. ,
613 Arrow ;Highway, Rancho Cucamonga. Mr. Frye apprised the Commission
of the history of the Lyon Company as a developer and of their interest
in the Riverside and San Bernardino County area for the past ten years.
e stated that the City of Rancho Cucamonga is in a premium location in
the valley and spoke of the development of the Victoria Plan concept. Mr.
Frye further stated that originally the Lyon Company felt that they could
take TOO- 0O acres of the total plan and develop it however, after some
further thought, felt that a master plan would enable the concept to b
better developed. It was at this point, Mr. Frye stated, that the windrows
that are so prevalent: in the Etiwanda area.., were determined to be used as
a focal point, in the hope of not only preserving what is here, but•:, to ac-
centuate their beauty along with the character of the older homes in the
area .
r. Frye continued with an explanation of what is intended for the area
as far as a regional shopping center and its amenities, the area 's quality
homes, anticipated traffic problems, the Edison Company corridors and the
Mood control channels that could be utilized for open space.
One of the features in the development of the Victoria Plan is a linear
park which will preserve the rural feeling of the area , Mr. Faye. explained.
It will flow through the various villages that will ultimately comprise
the entire Victoria project.
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r. Frye stated that the E`IR on this project had been processed and the
review period has been completed. A final copy of the text was made and
presented to City Staff on dune 18, Mr. Frye further stated that following
completion of the General Plan, it was the Lyon Company's hope to begin
the filing process on this project in December of 1980, with work on the
site to begin in 1981 . It was anticipated that the construction work on
the shopping center could 'begin in 1982 with the shopping center scheduled
for opening in 1984.
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Mr. Don Tomkins of the SA Group, provided a slide presentation of the
project . Mr. Tomkins, stated that not only must a developer have an idea,
it is important that the basic goal is not lost in the tedium of trivia.
He indicated that this is an important project and that the residents of
Rancho Cucamonga must not let it slip through their fingers.
Of further importance, Mr. Tomkins stated that the Planning Commission must
decide those things that they feel the community will want in physical ,
economic and social terms. They will have to make a determination of not
only what the development will provide but these things must be defined
now in order for them to be achieved.
Mr. Tomkins highlighted the villages that will comprise the Victoria Plan;
Victoria Groves, Victoria Windrows, Victoria Lakes, and Victoria Vineyards.
The entire concept, he stated, will provide single family, multiple family,
commercial and recreational considerations and will utilize existing trail
systems that were established by the County. Energy conservation and land-
scaping that are reflective of the Etiwanda area will be prime considerations.
Following the slide presentation, the Planning Commission recessed at 9:00 p.m.
9-00 p.m. The Planning Commission recessed
9:22 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened
Chairman Dahl asked if there were any questions of Mr. Frye or the SWA Group.
There being no questions, Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing.
Chairman Dahl provided guidelines for those individuals who would address
the Commission, stating that comments should be held to five minutes and
that specific items could be addressed at future meetings.
Mr. Roland Smith stated that he had an interest in the Etiwanda area and
inquired why a commercial strip is not proposed along Ettwanda Avenue.
Chairman Dahl replied that this will be taken up as part of the Land Use
Element.
Sue Gordon asked if this project will require the joining of an association.
Gary Frye replied that this project was not proposed to have homeowners
associations per se, but that it would most likely have maintenance assess-
ment districts.
Mr. John Schure asked when there will be more detail provided for the R-R
designation.
Gary Frye replied that regional related land uses are contained within the
text of the Victoria Plan and will grow Within time. He indicated that
this could also include cultural as well as commercial , and used the South
Coast Plaza as an example of how more detail was completed as the region
was developed.
There being no further, questions, the public hearing was closed.
Planning Commission Minutes -3- September 16, 1980
Mr. Lam stated that future agendas will be quite heavy and suggested that
a portion of the regular Planning Commission meetings might be set 'aside
for some of these issues. Mr. Lam reminded the Commission that in addi-
tion to these hearings and meetings, the CSC meetings will be coming up;;
along with the Storm Crain Committee meetings . The timeframe for these
meetings will be constricted with back-to-back meetings and some items
will suffer as a result, he said.
Commissioner Sceranka asked staff hew long it will take to go through each
of the seven issues involved in the Victoria Plan.
Nor. Lam stated that rather than try to predict how long it will take, he
would %rather say; that it depends on what issues the Planning Commission
thinks are most important. He further stated that it depends on the level
of input from the public ®- that the hearing process could take as few as
three meetings or last for months .
Commissioner Rempel stated that without a doubt, the two items that will
take the most time are land use and open space.. He felt that a muting
or two would take care of the public input and that the rest could be
completed in much less time.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that he would like to see a Saturday meeting
or two in a row for anyone who Dished to attend. He stated that on a work
night people are not as apt to give their input.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he thought this to be a good idea.
Commissioner King stated that he had no objections to this other than to
go ahead in an orderly fashion and that this needs to be organized as to
areas and subjects.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that priorities are needed. '
Chairman Dahl stated that when we get into land use that one issue will
take most of the time because it is the most visible. Circulation, he
stated further, is very important. He suggested that these be 'taken in
such a manner as to get through' as many as possible in one day before moving
onto the next it
Barry Hogan discussed the preparation requirements in getting these items
to the Commission. He suggested that the next meeting on the victoria
proposal be scheduled for September 29, with a Saturday meeting following
for input from the Etiwanda area .
Chairman Dahl asked if it would be possible to'take'two elements at a time
or even possibly three.
Barry Hogan stated that it depends on the kind of review the Commission
was talking about. He further stated that staff must be certain of the
relationship of land use to design criteria and that it depended on the
types of items that are being reviewed .
Planning Commission Minutes -5- September 16, 1980
Barry Hogan, City Planner, reviewed the program for land use, circulation,
parks/open space, infrastructure, design criteria, regulations and imple-
mentation. Mr. Hogan mentioned that a zoning ordinance of the Planning
Commission must be worked out with regard to development standards . He
then stated that he wished the Planning Commission to make a decision on
which two items relative to the Victoria Plan the Commission wished to dis-
cuss first.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked at what point in the process does the EIR come
up.
Mr. Hogan replied that it will appear last in the process so that what we
are up against will be known and will then allow the applicant an opportu-
nity to highlight those areas that are of concern.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the EIR is a part of the implementation sec-
tion or will it follow it?
Mr. Hogan stated that it is not a part of it, but that the State requires
that an IPi e implemented . He further stated that they are talking about
what kind of a review must be done and the level of comfort the City has
with it.
Mr. Hogan stated that the dates of September 29 and October 13 have been
reserved for continued hearings on this matter.
Commissioner Dahl asked what the possibility is of having the first of
these two meetings held in the Etiwanda area .
Mr. Hogan suggested that the second meeting be held in the Etiwanda area
because of the opportunity to generate longer lead time for notification
of the meeting.
Commissioner Rempel statedi that he would rather see meetings held weekly
to keep interest in the Project moving.
Mr. Hogan replied that it would be very difficult to have weekly meetings
on this project with the other areas of consideration that will be coming
before the Planning Commission for review.
Chairman Dahl polled the Commission for their opinion on the frequency
of meetings for this project.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he was overwhelmed with the projects
coming up for review -- the Victoria Plan, General Plan, Industrial Spe-
cific Plan, etc. He stated that he agreed with Commissioner Rempel and
with staff, He stated that it would be difficult for staff to complete
the necessary work in preparation for the Planning Commission's review.
Commissioner King suggested that perhaps an arrangement could be made to
meet on Mondays and receive staff reports on Thursdays with a 10-day turn-
around tohelp eliminate the "crunch" .
Planning Commission Minutes -4- September 16, 1980
Commissioner Sceranka moved that before the City, Staff and Planning Com-
mission make recommendations for input he ;would like to have public input.
He requested that input be received at two successive Saturday meetings.
The motion died for lack of a second:
Council Mike Palombo asked if are Etiwanda meeting will be set up,
Mrs. Nancy Swaiths , addressed the Commission and stated that the Et wandans
should be the first people hearer on this project.
Chairman Dahl stated that a site for the meetings needed to be found first.
Following further discussion, Commissioner Toltoy roved that land use be
considered as item number one, followed by circulation, and then parks and
open space. Further, that the net hearing date be set for September 29
at which time a place and date would be sot for a meeting' in Ftiwanda . This
was seconded by Rempel and carried unanimously.
Motion: Moved by Toltoy, seconded by Repel , carried unanimously, to ad-
journ at 10:15 p.m. and that the public hearing on this item be continued
to September 29, 1980, at :CC p.m. in the Lion's Park Community Building.
ADJOURNMENT
The Planning', Commission adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
L.- I
lak,
JCS. LAM, Secretary
Planning Commission Minutes -6- September 16 1980
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September, 13, 1980
Adjourned Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
The adjourned regular meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission; held jointly with the City Council , took place at the Lion's
Park Community Building, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, on Sat-
urday, September 13, 1980.
Meeting was called to order at 8:30 a.m. by Chairman Dahl .
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Jeffery King, Jeff Sceranka, Peter Tolstoy,
Richard Dahl
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Herman Rempel
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: James Frost, Jo,n Mikels, Michael Palumbo,
Phillip Schlosser
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: Tim Beedle, Bill Holley, Lloyd Hobbs, Jack Lam,
Paul Rougeau, Jim Robinson
The Planning Commission discussed the aspects of a Financial Task Force
for the City of Rancho Cucamonga . Planning Commissioners provided indi-
vidual views on the goals of the proposed task force and on its repre-
sentation.
Following considerable discussion, it was determined that a representative
from the Planning Commission would be chosen at the next regular Planning
Commission meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by King, seconded by Tolstoy, carried unanimously, to
adjourn to Tuesday, September 16, 1980, at 7:00 p.m. in the Lion's Park
Community Building for a public hearing on the Victoria Planned Community.
11 -00 a .m. - The Planning Commission Adjourned
Respectfully submitted,
JACK LAM, Se cretary
C 0 R R E C T E D
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September 10, 1980
Regular Meeting
ROLL CALL:
ALSO PRESENT: Bob Dougherty, City Attorney; Barry Hogan, City Planner;
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development; Paul Rougeau,
Senior Civil Engineer; Michael Vairin, Senior Planner;
Joan Kruse, Secretary
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INTERIM ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - Revision
to Residential , POD, 'Planning and Administration Sections of the San Ber-
nardino County Zoning Ordinance as adopted by the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Discussion ensued on the Home Occupation Ordinance . . . .
Commissioner King asked the City Attorney about newly adopted State legis-
lation to allow mobilehomes on R-1 property.
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September 10, 1980
Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
The regular greeting of the Planning Commission of the City of RanchoCuca-
monga was held its the Lion's Park Community Building, 9161 Base Line Road,
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Rancho Cucamonga, on Wednesday, September 10, 1980.
Meeting was called to order at 7.05 p.m. by Chairman Dahl , who led in the
pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Jeffery King, Jeff Sceranka, Herman Rempel ,
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Peter Tolstoy, Richard Dahl
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None
ALSO PRESENT: Ted Hopson,; City Attorney; Barry Hogan, City Planner;
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development; Paul Rosugeau,
Senior Civil Engineer; Michael Vairin, Senior Planner,
Joan Kruse,` Secretary`
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*Commissioner Sceranka arrived at 7:52 p.m.
APPROVALU MINUTES F'
Motion: Moved by Rempel , seconded by King, carried unanimously, to approve
the August ' 7, I980 Minutes,
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Rempel , King, Tolstoy, Dahl
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. Scerna
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development stated that in compliance with
the Commission's request, minutes will hereafter be'_prepared within one week
f the Planning Commission' meetings.
(r. Lam reported that on September 10 he and Commissioner Sceranka 'attened
a SCAO workshop on inclusionary' housing. He further reported that items
discussed were the opportunities and legal pitfalls of inclusionary housing.
1r. Lam stated that staff will be conferring with the City Attorney to de-
termine the implications of these programs and that the Commission will be
briefed on the result of this conference.
Mr. Lam reminded the Commission of the workshop scheduled with the City
Council on September 13 at 8:30 a .m. in the Lion's Park Community Building
to discuss fiscal planning for the City. He reminded the Commission that
it would be necessary to adjourn to the meeting of September 13 and also
to the subsequent meeting of September 16 for the public hearing on the
Victoria project.
Mr® Lam reminded the Commission that the City-County Planning Commissioner's
Conference is scheduled for September 17 in Rialto .
Mr. Lam indicated that there would be two additional items on this agenda
under Director Reports: Item G, a briefing on how the meeting of Septem-
ber 16 on the Victoria Plan would be conducted; and Item H, an update on
the Growth Management Program.
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, advised the Commissfon that the landscaping
has been completed at the Frito-Lay plan with the planting of large Syca-
more trees along the northeast corner of Archibald and Fourth Streets.
Chairman Dahl announced that Commissioner Jeff King had just become a father
for the second time with the birth of a son that morning.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 80-29 - BRYANT - The con-
struction of a 10,000 sq. ft. industrial building on 1 .19--acres of land
within the M-2 zone, located at 9595 Lucas Ranch Road - APN 210-071 -42
TIME EXTENSION RE UREST FOR DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 79-57 - BOB JENSEN BUILDER,
INC. - A request for a one-year extension.
Motion: Moved by Rempel , seconded by King, carried unanimously, to approve
the Consent Calendar.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: REMPEL, KING, TOLSTOY, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: SCERANKA -carried-
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAP NO. 6316 - CRAIG - 1 .8 acres of
land to be divided into three (3) parcels located on the north side of
8th Street, west of Vineyard Avenue - APN 207-271 -45
Mr. Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, reviewed the staff report. He
indicated that the property drains adequately to the street, but is subject
to some drainage from the north during storms.
Mr. Rougeau recommended that the public hearing be continued to September
24, 1980 to allow the applicant to provide an adequate hydrologic study.
Commissioner Repel stated that he would like to see more detail on the
map north of the project.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing'. He asked the applicant if he was
in agreement with the staff report requesting a continuance to September 24 .
Planning Commission Minutes -2- September 10, 1980
The applicant stated that he was. There being no other comments from the
floor, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what corner the existing storm drain was in on
the property.
Mr . Rougeau replied that it was located on the southeast corner of the pro-
perty and could possibly be a mitigating factor in the drainage at this site.
Motion: Moved by Rempel , seconded by Tolstoy, carried, to continue this>
item to September 24, 1980.
AYES. N � REMPEL T LST I D A NL
M, MISSOERS.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS; NONE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: SCERANA -tarried-
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND PARCEL MAR NO. 68 - O.V.D. COMMERCIAL PRO-
PERTIES - The subdivision of 15 acres of commercial property into 6 lots
located between Foothill and Sari Bernardino Rood, east of Vineyard.
Paul Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, ' reviewed the staff report. He stated
that this property was previously approved for a Oemco Shopping Center and
that the conditions are basically the same for this parcel map. Mr. Rougeau
indicated that the double conditions are necessary because the parcel map
could come into existence as lots while the project might not.
Commissioner Dahl asked, if the project is parceled as designed, what would
happen if it were built around parcels one and three but not parcel two.
Mr. Rougeau replied that the project would simply end up with some stores
and not the others.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing.
Mr. Steve Ridenour, representing CVO Commercial Properties, Inc. , of Los
Angeles, addressed the Commission. He stated that Oemco 'would own their
particular parcel and that following the Gemco start, the other shops would
be under construction. Mr. Ridenour+ stated further that thestores will
begin construction as soon as the parcel reap is recorded ..
There was some discussion relative to condition 23 and access to lots
and 6
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested :that this be treated as a 'reciprocal agree-
ment to be 'resolved between staff and the developer.
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No one else spoke either for or against this project and Chairman Dahl
closed the public hearing.
Motion. Moved by Rempel , ;seconded by Tolstoy, carried to adopt Resolution No.
0-46 approving the tentative snap and issuing a negative declaration.
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: ' REMPEL, T LSTOY, KING, DAHL
NOES; ` COMMISSIONERS, NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. ' SCERAN -carried-
Planning Commission Minutes -3- September 10, 1980
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND SITE APPROVAL NO. 0-04 - RANCHODISPOSAL-
The development of a truck and equipment storage yard on 2 acres within
the M-2 zone located at 8908 Hyssop.
Mr. Lam indicated that this item has been continued a number of times but
that information had gust been received from the .San Bernardino County Health '
Department; however, the information was received too late to be included
on this agenda. Mr. Lam requested that this item be continued to September
24 at which time staff will have the 'necessary information relative to their
design
Chairman Bahl opened the public hearing.
Mr. Joe Moore, representing Rancho Disposal , stated that this was acceptable.
There being no further comments, the public hearing was closed .
Motion. Moved.. by Toltoy, seconded by King, carried`, to continue this item
to the; September 24, 1 980 meeting.
7:58 p.m. Commissioner Sceranka arrived.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INTERIM ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - Revision
to Residential , PUD, Manning and Administration Sections of the San Ber-
nardino County Zoning'Ordinance as adopted' by the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Barry Hogan, City Plannsr, reviewed the staff report, indicating that the
changes made duringthe two study sessions on this ordinance have been in-
corporated
in this document . Further, that this ordinance affects the A -
mistrative, Residential , PIED, and Parking sections, which have been,' expand-
ed substantially in their scope.
Mr. Hogan explained that a clean copy of this ordinance would be presented
to the City Council for their review 'prior to adoption, in keeping with
suggestions made at the Planning Commission workshop with a marked up cony
available for Council 's review also.
Commissioner King asked if there could be consistency between this ordinance
and the Home Occupation Ordinance.
Mr. Hogan replied that staff plans to take care of this situation during'
the early part of next year:;.
Discussion ensued on the Home Occupation Ordinance as it realtd to the
Interim Zoning Ordinance with the consensus of the Commission to make mo-
difications to it at a later date.
Commissioner ScerRanka asked the ;City Attorney about newly adopted State
legislation to allow mobilhomes on -1 property.
The City Attorney replied that he was not aware that the legislation had
passed.
Planning Commission Minutes. -4- September 10,' 1980
Barry Hogan staged that the legislation had been adopted but not signed
and explained the requirements and provisions of the Bill .
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing.
There being no comments from the floor, the public Fearing was closed .
Commissioner King stated that it was his opinion that a correction is neces-
sary to the number of parking spaces required for multiple family dwelling
units.
Following discussion, Barry Hogan stated that clarification would be made
to allow 2.2 spaces per dwelling unit, l space shall be in a garage' or
carport and all others may be uncovered.
Commissioner King commented that the new Zoning Ordinance should not be
drafted without an exhaustive study to be sure that all provisions of the
ordinance are reviewed.
Commissioner Toltoy stated that the Interim Zoning Ordinance is fine for
now; however, he hoped that when the permanent ordinance is adopted it will
e more restrictive than the Interim Ordinance in some respects .
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimouslya, to
recommend adoption of the Interim Zoning Ordinance by the City Council with
the amendments as noted.
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
CONDUCT OF VICTORIA PLAN MEETING
Barry Hogan reviewed the procedure of the meeting stating that each Com-
missioner sihuld have two documents relating to the Victoria Plan -_ the
IR and the bound copy of the plan itself. Ira Hogan started that on Tuesday,'
September 1'6, a brief; report would be given to the Commission that would
include such items as circulation, drainage, grading, landscape, design,
energy conservation, transportation, dwelling unit types, density, regional
center, community buildings, offices, how the plan relates to growth ma-
nagement and how it relates to the City.
He stated that the Commission will be advised on haw it will operate relative
to this document in years to come. A program will be presented to include
the dates of meetings at which time these items will be discussed . <
Mr. Hogan stated that once this is adopted, the Wm. Lyon Company will go
to the next process of submitting a tentative tract 'map. The plan will
not show zoning because it is contained within the planned community con-
cept. Mr. Hogan advised that a, presentation will then be made by the Wm.
Lyon Company which will be substantially abbreviated from the 'previous
presentation.
Mr. Hogan further advised that there will be a 'discussion period on each
item but as yet the first project for discussion has not yet been selected .
Planning Commission Minutes. September 10,' 1980
Mr. Hogan stated that with the exception of the traffic question on the
Devore Freeway interchange, the Victoria Plan was essentially complete.
He indicated that a traffic model has been run factoring in densities.
Mr. Lam stated that this will be a full public hearing as it has been
legally noticed as a public hearing. '' Further, that all property owners
have been notified.
Chairman Dahl stated that he hoped that everyone living in the City would
try to attend this hearing.
Commissioner Sceranka asked Mr. Hogan, that based on the format, what will
the Commission be discussing on Tuesday?
'r. Hogan stated that it will be a broad overview of what he apprised the
Commission of tonight. 'Further, a time line will he established so that
everyone who wishes to attend the hearings can attend, and he suggested that
the hearing dates be set wide from the regular Planning Commission meetings.'
Mr. Hogan stated that the Commissioners will be given an update on the process
prior to each hearing.
GROWTH i MANAGEMENT UPDATE
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, advised that over the neat few months, in
addition to other changes, the Planning Commission will be examining the
Growth Management filings . Mr. Vairin indicated that of the 45 applications
received, 23 are totally complete and ready for processing, 13 are incom-
lete `with minor changes required relative to grading, drainage, etc. He
stated that a letter would be sent to all applicants by the end of the week
detailing what was yet required.
Additionally, Mr. Vairin stated that 6 of the applications have General
Plan problems and 3 of the applications have environmental problems. All
of these will be brought before the Commission 'at their next meeting.
Mr. Vairin stated that a rating system is being setup which will allow
processing of the applications immediately.
copy of the letter being sent to the applicants will be provided to the
Commissioners. He further stated that staff will be contacting Commission
members relative to the Design Review Committee meetings in conjunction
with these applications . At the same time, hestated, staff is updating
and improving the process for the December filing period
Commissioner Sceranka asked if the number of filings during this period
is comparable to; any ;period of County filings .
Jack Lam indicated that in 1977, the County approved 460 dwelling units .
and that in the month of August the City received 4000 units with a known
IDDD units remaining to be filed during December. Mr. Lam also stated that
staff is sure that there will be those developers who wanted to wait to
see what happened with the August filing and as soon as there were approvals,
they will submit some of their applications .
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Michael Vairin stated, that those applications requiring modification would
be given 14 days in which to bring them into conformance,
Chairman Dahl stated that some submittals may not meet the point system
and may have to refile at a later date.
Jack Lam stated that of significant importance in the point rating is the
requirement of a school letter. '
ON-AGENDA 'ITEMS
Chairman Dahl asked if a meeting schedule for the various committees was
available.
Tim Deedl e, Senior planner, stated that a schedule was being made up and
would be available the week of September 22.
Commissioner Sceranka' asked what the status of the Street Naming and His-
torical Committeosis .
r. Lam stated that this has been referred to Bill Holley and that staff
will check on the progress.
There 'being no further discussion, it was ;moved by Rempel , seconded' by
Tolst y, carried' unanimously, to adjourn to the Fiscal Task Force meeting
September 13, 1980, ': D a .m. in the Lion"s Park Community Building.
Respectfully submitted,
JACK LAM, Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION/STAFF
WORKSHOP
Saturday, September C, 1980
Cal Poly Pomona
This Planning Commission Staff workshop was held at the Kellogg West
meeting facility of the Cal Pol -Pomona University on Saturday, Sept-
ember C, 1980 at g*CU a.m.
Following is an outline of the discussion that took place between the
Planning Commission and staff members .
I . OVERCOMING BARRIERS
Discussed barriersto communication and why we should build
communications, colleague support and how to compromise,
A. Key Ingredients to Effective Communication
Desire
Desire to Receive
(Feedback) Huddle - `dime Out
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B. Hampering Communication
Interpretation
Confusion over moaning
Screening out
Poor Listening
CONCLUSION: Need to overcome barriers and improve desire to
communicate effectively.
II. PERCEPTION N OF ROLES
Planning Commission Staff
Arbitrator highest level
leadership' idealism
judgement) adm imp, policy
filter communication' input offer choices
special interests educators
seek the broader interest: special interests
utopians laws/textbook 'eval j
synthesize ideas technicians
evaluate choices advisors
compromise' negotiators
balance interests
policy implementor
s
common sense facilitators
recognize property rights communicators
advisors
educator
negotiators
policymakers
communicators
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September 6, 1980
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CONCLUSION: Overall roles merge generally. That's why
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e need to function as a team. We're in 'same boat together.
III. PAYOFF FOR BUILDING TEAM
Broader perspective better image P.R.
productivity
peace of mind - satisfaction
common enthusiasm better relationships
cohesiveness breakdown stereotypes
rommanality of goals
effectiveness empathy
sense of belonging acceptance-responsibility
consistency unity
respect accomplishment - faster
quality decisions
minimal role playing '
education
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CONCLUSION: There is value in becoming a team and snaking
it work.
IV. JOB FACILITY
A. Staff Can Make Our Job Easier By:
1 re complete minutes
. More concise oral reports
3`. No argument between staff and commissioners
. More visual aids
. Reevaluate way people are handled' over the desk (attitude)
6. When appeal is made, Commission's viewpoint communicated
to City Council
7. When stuff goes to Council they should get a clean copy
not with crossout , etc.
B'. We should get clean copies of proposals
g. No changes in conditions after project has ;gone through
Commission.
B. Commission Can Make Our Job Easier By:
1 . Participating more in public relations'
2. Being more prepared at Planning Commission meetings
3. Chock signals more often
'. Check out complaints with staff prior to making ;judgements
S. More professional conduct at meetings
B. Rely on staff more
. Recognize staff as professionals
CONCLUSION: Team work can make both our ;gobs easier if we can
rely on each other with mutual respect.
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September 6, 1980
Page Three
V. ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE HAVE MADE
- Framework for new city
- Sign Ordinance
- Interim Standards
- Interim General Plan
- Establish Design Review
- General Plan Program
- Set Foundation for residential growth
- Clean upr, County files
- Set staff up
- Administrative procedures
- Tree policy
- Financial framework
- Local Control
- Begun public works program
- Newer sophistication in planning over the County's planning
- Made cohesive, three communities
- Street standards
- New flood control
- Fee structure for improvements
- Developed Capital Imrpovement Program
- Street Specific Plan
- Encourage Planned Communities
- Reinforced good industrial planni,ng
- Traffic Model
V1. THINGS WE DO WELL
- Staff guts
- Excellent reports
- P.C. can explain decisions
- Excellent cooperation
- Non-pol itical
- Process plans quickly
- Consistency in decisions
- Good staff reports
- Good County relationship
- Understand broad concepts
-Learn Quickly
- Work Hard
- Responsive to public
VII . THINGS WE DO POORLY
- Disseminate information
- Public relations
- Internal P.C. Communication
- Establish priorities
- Pick General Plan Consultants
- Distribute information to Planning Commission
- Feedback to staff
- Communications between County and Commission
- Don't understand important goals
- Relate matching staff/resources to workload
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III. THINGS WE NEED TO START DOING
Coordinate m need to know the other department""s programs
Establish priorities
Find out other cities activities
- Implementation program
- Solidify communication and feedback system
Define terms better
- Take procedural sups to improve P.R.
Publishing standards
Set up timetable with Planning Commission session (goals)
Establish meetings with City Council annually
- Be more involved in education
Meetings more hospitable
Improve public image
IX. THINGS WE WANT TO STOP DOING
Stop allcoating staff time without examining priorities
Stop rumors criticizing Staff/Commission
Encourage details so that incident investigation can
take place and corrections can be made
X. GOALS/POLICIES
All shopping center geared to foot traffic
- More emphasis on natural resources
- Vistas
Trees
Maintain human scale
Softening parking lots
Develop place where one can work/play/live
Parks (neighborhood) emphasis
Solutions impl ementabl e
- Emphasize trails of all needs i .e. foot paths., bikes, equestrian;, etc'.
Layout financial plan
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- Convert l abi'lities into assets
- Sensitivity to needs of total area
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Take leadership for plann�. Wng , in est d
Provide opportunity for dtfforent housing types
Higher densities on appropriate sites (N . of City?)
Look at project totality not just` isolated
Evaluate rural road standards
-Reevaluate goals as needed
-Establish criteria for commercial development and land uses
-Seek balanced land uses and develop criteria
-Seek balanced/efficient circulation system
-Establish parameters for' use of poorer
-Develop new terminology other than Growth Management
CONCLUSION: Goals too important and too large an issue to
discuss in one-half hour. Need separate future meeting soon
to bemoreall inclusive.
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September 6, 1980
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General Plan
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Ind. S e , Plan
Fiscal Model
COO Block Cnt.
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CIR Guidelines k. w/deb'. date
Street Names Ongoing Work
Victoria P.C. Intermit . Work
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Condo Crane. Ord.
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NEW PROJECTS
New Zoning
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Hillside Oev. Stds.
Design Review
Handbook
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Window Area
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Re . Veh. Ord.
New Tree Pies. Ord.
CITY QF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING CQMISSION MEETING
Aunt 277 1980
Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of, the Planning Commission, of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
was held in the Lipn�s Park Compunity Building, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho
Cuc4w�nga, on Wednesday, August 2-7, 1980.,
Meeting was called to order at 7:00 ,m a , ed m in the.::pledge
of hell, race,
ROLL CALL
PRESENT; COMMISSIONER$; Jeffrey, King, Jeff Sceranka, Herma,n Rempel,
Peter Tol,.toy? Richard Dahl
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS': NdnEi
ALSO RESENT; Tim Beedle, Senior Plannerli Ted Hopson, City Attorney j Jack
Lam 1 ougor
,Director of Cor=_unj:ty�,,Deyeloj?r4enti Eau R eau, Seni
Civil Eng:Weeri Miehael )14irin, Senior Planneri Joan, Kruse,
Secretary,
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Notion: Moved by "Rempel, seconded by Sceranka, carried, to approve the
July 30, 1980 Miywtes,
A ', CO(MIS-SWRERS: 'Bempel $ceranka, Tolstoy, Dahl,
NOES COMMISSIONERS; None
ABSENT; CO.MMI$$,IQNERS'; Nono
ABSTATN; CQMMISRIQNERS; King
Motion; Move,d by, Rempel, seconded by Pceranka, carried, to approve the
August 5, 1980 Minutes..
AYES; CQKKISSIQNER,9; Re� el, Ccer4nka, Tolstoy,, Dahl
NQE,52; CCU MKISSI-ONERS; None
ABSENT: CQMMTS$TQNERS; None
ABSTAIN: COI*4TSSIQNER$; King
Motion; Moyed by King, seconded W BeXpel, carried unanimously,, to approve
the August 13, 1980 Minutes.,
AYES, COMKT$SIQNERS; King, Rer4pel, Sceranka, Tolstoy, Dahl
NOES; COMM TS$IQNE13S, None
ABSENT; CQMMTSSIQM-,RS: None
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development, stated that the City Council had
set Saturday, September 13, 1980 as the date for a Fiscal Task Force Workshop.
The meeting place would be announced at a lat,er date. Mr. Lam further stated
that since the Fiscal Task Force concept was a recommendation of the Planning
Commission, the City Council included the Planning Commission along with other
members of the public in the workshop so that this issue could be thoroughly
discussed before the City Council makes a final decision.
Mr. Lam announced that there has been some discussion on the goals of the Plan-
ning Commission now that there are two new members. Further, the addition of
two new members to the Commission has changed its dynamics and it would be be-
neficial to participate with staff in a workshop to discuss the roles of the
Commission along with its goals. Mr. Lam indicated that tentatively, a work-
shop has been set up at the Cal Poly Kellogg West facility on September 6,
with the public invited to attend. The Commission concurred.
CONSENT CALENDAR
TIME EXTENSION FOR DIRECTOR REVIEW NCB,_79-06 - A 200 unit apartment development
located on the northwest corner of l9th and Ramona.
Michael Vairin reviewed the staff report indicating that due to 'a, transfer in
ownership with this development, the time for plan checks and plan preparation
would soon expire. It was staff's recommendation that a six-month extension
to April 21, 1981 be granted for Director Review No. 79-06 to the Fredericks
Development Corporation.
Motion: Moved by Rempel, seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously, to ap-
prove Staff's recommendation.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ZONE CHANGE C. 80-10 - WINEBROOK - A request for
a change of zone from R-1 (single family residential) to R-3 (multiple family
residential) for 4.27 acres located on the south side of 19th Street, West of
Hellman - APN - 202-041-03 & 52.
Michael Valrin, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report indicating that there
were three options available for the Planning Commission and staff requested
that the Commission provide staff with direction on this project .
Michael Vairin stated that a letter had been received from Mr. Robert Knowles,
6758 Hellman, who objected to the zone change, stating it was not compatible
with the R-1 single family zoning which presently exists and who further felt
that it would lower property values.
Commissioner Sceranka asked staff what the consultant's views were in not re-
commeding this zone change.
Michael Vairin explained that the consultant felt there could be other uses which
might be better than this.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing.
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Richard Justis, 9587 Arrow He. , the applicant, addressed. the Commission. He
stated that a 0- it condominium was proposed for this site.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked that, since this was a 'conceptual rendering that was
being shown to the Commission, what kind of parking was proposed for this project
and whether garages would be furnished for every condo unit.
The applicant replied that there 'would not be a garage provided for every unit
but that there would be adequate parking.
Larry Bliss, 733 Heldman Avenue, addressed the Commission. He stated that
the property owner shown on lot number 5 above 1. th Greet on the overhead projector,
was in favor of this project and felt it wodld improve the area..
Commissioner Sceranka inquired about access and traffic problems that might
be generated as a result of this project.
The applicant stated that he felt that traffic might be improved by the widening
of;lth Street.
Mr. Saul Mendelson, 6790 Heldman, stated that he was apposed to this project
because of increased traffic, the change of density and a depreciation in pro-
perty value.
Commissioner Sceranka asked staff about the status of widening lth Street": in
conjunction with this project.
Paul ftou ea.0 answered that it might take several, years due to the fact that lath
Street is a, State ;Highway.
Discussion ensued among the. Commission and staff relative to the: traffic impacts
of this project and the completion of the D Mens Creek project by the Corps of
Engineers.
Commissioner Tolstsoy stated that he has some concerns about drainage e as well
as density. He Felt that the applicant should, wait until the General Plan is
threshed. out :to determine the density on this site.
Commissioner ;King stated that his basic concern is the compatability of the
area to;increased density. He indicated that he'would like to continue this
item until after the General. Plan is completed.
Commissioner Bempel started concern about only one way into thecul-de-sac on
l th Street. He stated further, that he thought the traffic might be ;mitigated
but felt there was a real problem with water and that the was area is not an
easement. He felt that other than these concerns, the use of this site might
be a goad one.
Chairman Dahl agreed with Commissioner Rempel.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that the General Plan process should be completed
before making a. decision on the density.
Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Hempel, carried unanimously, ;to con-
tinue this item until. Decemter 24, 1980, at which time the General Plan will
be completed.
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SITE APPROVAL C. 80-12 - GALA FELLOWSHIP - A request to use approximately
4,000 square feet of building area within the Cucamonga Business Park located
on the southwest corner of Arrow and Archibald for business offices and confe-
rence areas in conjunction with the fellowship - M-1 Zone. APN 209-021-20.
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report.
There being no questions of staff by the Commission at this time, Chairman Dahl
opened the public hearing.
Chairman Dahl asked the applicant if he wished to address the Commission.
The applicant stated he was in accord with the staff report and so declined,
Commissioner Tolstoy asked about church services in this facility and why they
were not listed in the letter submitted.
The applicant replied that their use is a teaching ministry and people who
come to the church. are there to learn and bring a tablet and pencil with
them so technically it is not a service.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked staff whether this was an acceptable use in the
M-1 Zone.
Michael Vairin replied that because of pyramidal zoning in this area this is
a use subject to conditions.
Discussion ensued regarding the phrasing of the second paragraph in Section
2 of the Resolution which resulted in a change to include the word only in
the second sentence.
Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Rempel, carried unanimously, to ap-
prove Site Approval No. 80-12, as amended.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Sceranka, Rempel, King, Tolstoy, Dahl
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None
Commissioner Tolstoy went on record to state that this is not a proper use of
M-1 zoning and hoped that the Planning Commission will not, in the future, al-
low churches in an industrial. zone. He further stated that he did not like
to dilute -uses in this manner and that this is an interimuse.
8:15 p.m. The Planning Commission recessed.
8:30 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE
Mr. Lam reviewed the staff report and the Subdivision Ordinance stating that
all recent and past changes were incorporated into this document. He stated
that the ordinance had been reviewed by the City, Attorney for internal con-
sistency and legal verbiage and. that their suggestions for minor correction
had been incorporated.
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Commissioner Sceranka questioned the addition of the statement regarding solar
access to section 1.401 .
The City Attorney replied that this was a quote from the Subdivision Map Act.
Further, that the design of a subdivision will: provide for future heating or
cooling but will not reduce allowable densities.
There was discussion regarding solar energy provisions and their consideration
in subdivision filings.
Mr. Lam stated that each entity could develop its own solar provisions but
that a subdivision could not receive demerits if it lacked these provisions.
Commissioner Sceranka stated that he hoped that there; would be a clear deter-
mination for staff to know what is feasible and what is not.
Lam replied that the policy of the City of Rancho Cucamonga is to en-
courage solar energy and conservation, it is endorsed by the City Council and
the Chamber of Commerce; however, there are presently no precise regulations
for this. However, the Growth Management Flan will give extra points if devel-
opers consider solar in their design but it does not relate to densities,
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearingand asked... for comments. There being
.
none, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner :King 'stated that he would stand by his previous comments with
regard to the Subdivision Ordinance as he felt the Cute Map Act should be
adapted by reference; however, he; was in favor of the concept of the imple-
mentations of the proposed ordinance.
The City Attorney stated that he was satisfied with the ordnance in its
entirety, the proposed ;ordinance is defensible and is a credit to staff as
drafted... He felt ,that there were no material variances in the proposed ordinance.
Lam stated that in presenting the ordinance, there might have been con-
fusion about the term paraphrasing of the State Map Act. He indicated that
a better choice of word would have been implement rather than paraphrase.
Motion: Moved by Hempel, seconded by T'olstoy, carried to approve the Negative
Declaration and the Subdivision Ordinance as amended.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Hempel;; Tolstoy, Scera.nka, Dahl
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: CCU ISSION HS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: King
Commissioner King explained his abstention was based on the potential for
legal questions.
NEW BUSINESS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND EXTENSION OF GENERAL PLAN
Jack Lam reviewed the staff report indicating that what was before the Planning
Commission is the Environmental Assessment for the extension of` -time in submit-
ting the General Plan to the Stale Office of Planning and. Research. Mr. Lam
continued-that only one extension is allowed. and a request for an 8-month
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extension was being made although the General Plan is expected to be completed
within the next few months.
Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded, by King, carried unanimously, to approve
the Negative Declaration and recommend that the City Council adopt a resolu-
tion requesting a time extension on the submittal of the General Plan,
STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
Jack Lam reviewed the staff report and stated that staff had prepared a ten-
tative condition approval list to be used in residential projects. He further
stated that the Builders Industry Association had been provided with a list
and their input would be received before the final list came before the Plan-
ning Commission. Mr. Lam asked the Commission to review the list of Standard
Conditions of Approval for residential development and make their comments for
additions, changes or deletions.
Chairman Dahl asked if anyone in the audience wished. to comment on this.
Mr. Ken Willis, representing the BIA made a, number of comments relative to
the Standard Conditions of Approval.
The Planning Commission also provided staff with direction on the list provided
and requested that a revised list be prepared for the next regular meeting of
the Planning Commission.
10:10 p.m. The Planning Commission recessed.
10:20 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened
DIRECTOR REPORTS
PLANNING DIVISION WORK PROGRAM
Mr. Jack Lam reviewed the staff report which explained the current and advance
planning aspects of the Planning Division and its relation to the work load
of the Department. lie asked that the Planning Commission study the activities
that are currently on-line so that an effective work program might be established
to meet the desires of the Commission,
Following brief discussion, it was determined that -this would be discussed at
the upcoming Planning Commission Staff workshop.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Rempel, carried unanimously, to adjourn
at 10:24 p.m.
Respectfully L d
JACK LAM,- §e-t:k t a
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Auqust 13, 1980
ReqUlar Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
was held in the Lien"s Park Community Building, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho
Cucamonga, on Wednesday, August 13, 1980.
Meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Dahl , who led in the pledge
of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Jeffrey. King, Jeff Sceranka, Herman Rempel ,
Peter Tolstoy, Richard Dahl
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None
ALSO PRESENT: Tim Beedle, Senior Planner; Barry Hogan, City Planner; Ted
Hopson, City Attorney; Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer; Jack Lam,
Director of Community Development; Michael Vairin, Senior
Planner; Joan Kruse, Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Rempel , carried, to approve the Minutes
of July 9, 1980.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, REMPEL, SCERANKA, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: KING
Motion: Moved by Rempel , seconded by Sceranka, carried, to approve the Minutes
of July 23, 1980.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: REMPEL, SCERANKA, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSI"ONERS: ONE
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: KING, TOLSTOY
Motion: Moved by Rempel , seconded by Tolstoy, carried, to approve the Minutes
of March 26, 1980.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: REMPEL, TOLST Y, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS. KING, SCERA KA
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development, indicated that there would be a
special Planning Commission meeting on Tuesday, September; 16, 1980, in the
Lon's Park Community Building to review the program for the Victoria submittal .
Mr. Lam advised that a revised list had been placed before the Commissioners
which showed the committees upon which they served.
Chairman Dahl announced that he had received a letter from Mayor Schlosser
requesting that a Planning Commission representative be appointed to the Build
Essential Schools Today Committee.
Motion: Moved by Rempel , seconded by Scerana, carried unanimously, to appoint
Commissioner Peter Tolstoy as the representative to the BEST Committee.
AYES. COMMISSIONERS: REMEL, SCERANKA, KING TOLSTOY, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT COMMISSIONERS: NONE
-carried-
CONSENT CALENDAR
Commissioner Rem el indicated that he had a problem with Item B of the Consent
Calendar but had since met with Staff and they were in accord that Recommendation
No. 3, mitigating measures, be changed to read preliminary rather than final
grading plan be submitted for approval .
Mr. Lary stated that .Staff concurred with this change.
Commissioner Toltoy indicated that it had been his request that this item
be removed from a prig agenda and placed on this agenda. ` He commended Staff
for an excellent job on this item.
Motion: Moved by Remel , seconded by King, carried unanimously, to approve the
Consent Calendar:
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 8 - B W SIMPSO
The development of a 62,400 sq. ft. industrial building on 8.6
acres in the M-2 Zone located at 8876 Vincent Avenue - APN 209-
141- 7.
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ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OF PARCEL MAP NO. 6130 SAVAGE -
A residential subdivision of 1 .95 acres of land in the
R-1 0,000 zone into 3 parcels located on the east side
of Mayberry Avenue, north of Wilson Avenue - APN 1-111-36
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 80- 8 -
CUIDERA - The development of two
ria ui d indust bings
T—ot-al—ing 28,000 sq. ft. in the M-R 'zone located on the east
side of Etiwanda Avenue, south of Arrow Highway - APN 9-151-01
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: RE PEL, KING, SCERANA, TOLSTOY, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS. NONE -carried-
PUBLIC HEARINGS
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND ZONE CHANCE NO. 80-08 - DEASON AND ASSOCIATES INC.-
A zone change from R-1 Single Family Residential to A-P Administrative Prof es-
sional for the development of a 30,000 sq. ft. professional office complex on
1.84 acres of land located on the west side of Archibald,; south of Devon - APN
8-801-39 & 40
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report® He indicated that the
applicants are requesting a change in zoning from R-1 to A-P. He further stated
that the interim and proposed land use plan indicates the subject property and
frontage along Archibald Avenue as office/professional use. It was staff"s recom-
mendation that the Planning Commission consider all information and material r°e-
lative 'to this request and if the Commission concurs, their a motion be made to
adopt a Resolution recommending approval of the zone change to the City Council .
Following questions by the Commission relative to the zoning designations, Chair-
man Dahl opened the public hearing. He asked if there was anyone present in favor
of this zone change.
Mr. Sam Page, representing the applicant at 9275 Archibald Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga,
came forward. He stated that the applicant was in agreement with the staff recom-
mendation on this ,zone change. He further stated that it was compatible with the
residential zoning which surrounded it and the plan would provide adequate buffering
to the residential area.
Mr. Janes Woodside, 9679 Devon Avenue, who lives directly north of the proposed site,
stated that it would be a credit to the area.
Commissioner Repel asked Mr. Woodside what type of wall he would prefer to see
around the site.
Mr. Woodside answered that his preference would be a; six-foot block wall Darlene
Ironside 833 Klusman, whose property was in back of the proposed site stated that
she was definitely in favor of it.
No one spoke in opposition to this project and the public hearing on this item was
closed
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Commissioner Sceranka asked staff what the procedure would be to save the trees
that were presently on this site.
Michael Vairin explained that staff was working with the applicant to save those
trees that would add character to the area and were in the best health. He stated
that three large palm trees and a walnut tree would be preserved on the property.
Commissioner King indicated that he had one concern as it relates to Archibald
Avenue* He stated that just looking at the preliminary site plan he felt that
there should be more than one entry and exit onto Archibald Avenue as a safety
factor, Michael Vairin replied that the one drive approach is the result of
past policy decision by the Planning Commission in limiting access points to
parcels onto major highways and secondary roads.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked Commissioner Rempel to define screen walls for the
benefit of people in the audience.
Following an explanation of screen walls and their uses by Commissioner Rempel ,
it was moved by Rempel , seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously, to adopt
Resolution No. -41 , 'recommending approval of the zone change; to the City Council..
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 0-01 *E.L.S. CORP. -
The development of a theme retail center on 3.25 acres in the C-2 zone to be
located on the southeast corner of Ramona and Foothill Boulevard APN 208-301-
0 , 03 04 & 05 Michael Vairin, Senior Planner reviewed the staff report.
e indicated that the applicants responded to recommendations of the Design
Review Committee by adding more wood trim around the service stores in the
retail buildingand providing additional landscaping at t o f nd f
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the o the
retail building. Following st ' report, Commissioner Tolstoy asked that
since the project would cut off the frontage road and there would be different
egress for traffic than if traffic went all the way through to Ramona, if
staff foresaw any problems with this.. Paul Roueau, Senior Civil Engineer,
stated that there would be no problem and that this wou,ld be a better solution.
Mr. Tellis Hargrave, 4131 Yorba Tustin, spoke for the applicant and stated
that the owners of this property have been working with the owners of the
property next to it arid were in the process of abandoning the whole frontage
road. He further stated that this would alleviate the traffic problem. Mr.
Hargrave also stated that he had no problems with the staff report and had
been working with staff, so was in concurrence with most of the recommendations.
Mr. Hargrave stated, however, that he dad have a problem with Item G in the
conditions. He requested that the time limitation be extended to 18 months
from the 12 months that was presently in the condition.
There was considerable discussion by the Commission on whether the time limitation
should be extended to '13 months:
Following this discussion, Chairman Dahl opened the public: hearing. He asked
if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of this project.
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No one spoke.
He then asked if there was anyone opposed to this project.
Mrs. Grace Rosella, 9872 Hampshire, addressed the Commission. She stated that
she was not really against the project, however, she lived right in back of the
proposed site and she asked several questions about the restaurant, the hours it
would be open and whether liquor would be served. Her concern was the noise
that would result from this project. She stated that she was also concerned
about the two-story building that was proposed on the site and the potential
loss of privacy because of people being able to look into the back yards.
Arlene Bustamonte, 8182 Ramona Avenue, addressed the Commission. She stated
that basically she was not opposed to the proposed shopping center, however,
she voiced some concerns with the two-story office building that is proposed.
Additionally, she stated that she felt that the City of Rancho Cucamonga has
too many plazas and hoped that there would be enough business to support it
so it doesn't fail , resulting in vacant shops.
Mr. Harry Schnell , 9844 Hampshire, addressed the Commission. He asked for
clarification of an entry way.
Staff advised that it was not an entry way but just a space between buildings.
Lydia Snow, 9844 Hampshire, addressed the Commission. She stated that her
concern was the noise that might result from this project.
Mr. Frank Arayla, 9757 Devon, addressed the Commission. He stated that he
was not opposed to the project but was concerned about drainage as there
presently is a problem with flooding in the area.
Linda Alaya, 9757 Devon, also stated that she was concerned with the possible
flooding that might result from this project.
Mr. Hargrave again addressed the Commission. He stated that the type of
restaurant that would be located in this facility would not remain open until
2:00 a.m. He further stated that the two-story office building would contain
windows that would not face into surrounding back yards.,
Following discussion by the Planning Commission, it was moved by Rempel , sec-
onded by Tolstoy, carried unanimously, to approve Resolution No. 80-42, amending
it to include additional landscaping to the building on the south side and
extending the time limit for the issuance of building permits to 18 months.
8:20 p.m. The Planning Commission recessed.
8:35 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE
Mr. Lam stated that at the present time the Subdivision Ordinance was being
reviewed by the City Attorney's Office. This matter would be continued to
the next meeting at which time staff would recommend adoption to the City
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Council . Mr. Lair recommended continuing the public hearing to August 27. He
further stated that input had been requested from the BIA, Chamber of Commerce,
and Board of Realtors by August 10; however, at the present time there has been
no written communication on this item.
Motion`: Moved by Remel , seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously, to continue
this item to the August 27 Planning Commission meeting.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INTERIM ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - Revision to
Residential , PUD Planning and Administration Sections of the San Bernardino
County Zoning Ordinance as adopted by the City of Rancho Cucamonga:`
Mr. Lair reviewed the staff report and requested that the Planning Commission
continue this item to the September 10, 180 meeting, at which time it would
be presented for them approval
Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Rempel , carried unanimously, to continue
this item and the public hearing to the September 10, 1980 meeting.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR SITE APPROVAL NO. 0-0 - RANCHO DISPOSAL The
development of a truck and equipment storage yard on 2.0 acres within the M_
zone. Located at 8908 Hyssop.
M . Jack Lary reviewed the staff report and indicated that the applicant has
submitted revised site plans to staff which were transmitted to the County
Enviromental Health Division. He further stated that the County Environmental
Health Division is in' the process of reviewing :the plans and will be re-
sponding shortly.
It was staff's recommendation that this item be continued to September 10, 1980
to allow adequate response time .from agencies reviewing this project,
Chairman Daryl opened the public hearing
r. Joe Moore, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission and indicated
that the applicant hoped that there would be no further continuance of this item.
Mr. Moore indicated that the water that would be used in washing the vehicles '
would go into a clarifier and then into a septic holding tank which he felt would
preclude problems with the later Quality Control Board.
Following Mr. Moore' s remarks, Mr. Lam reminded the Commission that this item had
previously been brought before then but discrepancies were disclosed at that meet-
ing which have not yet been fully resolved.
There was further discussion among the Commission and applicant relative to land-
scaping requirements and the necessity of the applicant's appearance before the
Design Review Committee.
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Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Rempel , carried unanimously, that this
item be continued to the September 10 Planning Commission meeting.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. -17 - ANDERS N ® The development
of a rental mobilehome park on approximately 19 acres of land located on the east
side of Vineyard Avenue approximately 600 feet south of Foothill Boulevard.
Michael Vairin, Senior planner, reviewed the staff report. He stated that the
applicant has worked with staff to mitigate any problems that may occur; however,
there were two areas of concern remaining;' The issue of buffering from Vineyard
Avenue; and the issue of drainage.
There were questions from the Commission relative to the amendment of lot sizes
within the mobilehome park to accommodate recreational vehicles, and the' pre-
servation of windrows.
Chairman Dahl opened the public 'hearing.
Mr. Jack king of Jos. E. Denhan 'and Associates, representing Arnold Anderson,
addressed the Commission. He stated that the applicant still has a problem with
the landscaping and the requirement for a retaining wall . He further stated that
it was their opinion that from a security and safety standpoint, the requirement
for a wall as high as are set down in the conditions would create problems. He
also cited the cost of construction as a factor.
Chairman Dahl asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of this
project.
o one spoke.
Chairman Dahl asked if anyone was opposed. to this project.
Mr. Henry Reiter, Newport Beach, addressed the Commission. He stated that every-
one was familiar with the flooding that occurs on Hellman Avenue and expressed
his concern that allowing additional drainage to run down Hellman would have an
effect on property near Arrow.
There was discussion wrong the Commission relative to the necessity of a storm
drain system to carryaway 'heavy storm water.
Discussion ensued relative to landscaping, walls, and meandering sidewalks.
Commissioner Remoel suggested meandering sidewalks for this project along Vineyard
Avenue.
Following discussion, it was moved by Sceranka, seconded by Tolstoy, carried, ;to
approve Resolution No. 0-4 , amending it to include the addition of meandering
sidewalks, and the change to condition L6 regarding drainage.
Commissioner ding voted no ,on this item stating that it was not his philosophy
to require meandering sidewalks as a condition of approval . He further Mated
that it would be 'nice if it could be worked in but did not feel it should be
required.
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Commissioner Rempel stated that this is typical of what the Commission is doing
in all areas
DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 79-58 Proposed elevations for Security Pacific National Bank
request for review and approval of the exterior design of the previously approved
site plan including a Bank facility totaling 7,500 sq. ft. located within a pro-
fessional office complex on the north side of Base Line, west of Archibald.,
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report, recommending that the
Commission approve the exterior building elevations for the Security Pacific
National Bank,
Motion: Moved by Rempel , seconded by Sceranka carried unanimously, to approve
Director Review No. 79-58:
DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 7' ®50 - REITER - A site plan revision to a previously approved
industrial development on 17.5 acres of land known as Phase II of the Cucamonga
Business Park, generally located on the southwest corner of Arrow and Archibald.
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report,, stating that the applicant
is proposing to revise Phase II to replace buildings 11 , 12, and 13 with a two-story
building totaling approximately 40,000 sq ft. designated as an industrial office
building.
It was recommended that the playa revision be approved as submitted and that all
conditions applicable to the original approval be applied to this revision.
Follow
ing Staff s report,
g epo , Mr. Henry Reiter, the applicant stated that he is not
sure he will b getting t 7 s tenant andwanted to knew if he deeds to back step
with this J
P,.ro ect 7f he would be able to do so
_
Staff explained that if this were the case, the change in plans would require the
applicant's appearance again before the Commission, so the applicant would have an
opportunity to change his plans if it were required to do so.
Motion; Moved by Rempel , seconded by ding, carried unanimously, to approve this
item.
RECOMMENDATION ON USE OF FLAGS FOR LAND LEASE OR SALE PURPOSES
Mr. Lard stated that this item had come up some time before relative to the leasing;
of an industrial development. Mr. Lam further stated that the current Sign Ordi-
nance does not allow Tags, Mr. Lam indicated that the Design; Review Committee
had studied the issue and recommended that flags be permitted on industrial and
residential developments subject to certain criteria, and requested that if the
Planning Commission concurs with the recommendation of the Design Review Com-
mittee, it should direct staff to prepare an ordinance amendment to allow flags
subject to those conditions.
Discussion ensued among the Commissioners
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Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he was against allowing flags to be used for ,
advertising purposes as it tended to create a circus effect. He suggested
instead that other advertising means be effected as is done in the City of
Brea where a piece of sculpture is used instead. He further stated that; the
Fox Hollow development used the American flag and State of California flag
to be flown near their~ project.
Mr. Henry Reiter , a developer, stated that he would be in favor of something
of this type and felt that other developers would like to do it also.
Motion: Moved by Rem el , seconded by Sceranka, carried, to recommend an
amendment to the Sign Ordinance to allow use of flags for advertising con-
sistent with the Design Review Committee' s recommendation'.
Commissioner Tolstoy was opposed and :voted no for his stated reason.
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Dahl requested that the Commission direct staff to review the Sign
Ordinance as it relates to window signs. He stated that he had driven through
the City and found that approximately 85 percent of the signs that appear: in
windows violate the S, percent window_space rule. Chairman Dahl further
requested that the Chamber of Commerce provide data on whether businessmen
in the community approved the present Sign Ordinance and the restrictions on
window signs.
There was considerable discussion among the Commissioners on the interpretation
of the ordinance to allow advertising. The consensus of the Commission was that
the original intent of the Sign 'Ordinance was to permit signs for identification
of businesses and that any advertising resulting from that signing was a secondary
use
Motion; Moved by Sceranka seconded by King, carried unanimously, to direct
staff to review the Sign Ordinance.
ADJOURNMENT'
Motions Moved by Rempel , seconded by Sceran a carried unanimously, to adjourn
t 10: 0 pare
Respectfully bran d,
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JACK LAM, Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
August 5, 1980
Study Session
CALL TO IORDFR
The study session of the Planning Commission of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
was held in the Lion's Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho
Cucamonga, on Tuesday, August 5, 1980.
Meeting was called to order at 7:04 p.m. by Chairman Dahl .
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Dahl , , Rempel , Tolstoy, and Sceranka
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: none
ALSO PRESENT: Jack Lam, Director of Community Development; Barry K. Hogan,
its Planner; Jeff King, new Commissioner not yet appointed.
Mr. Lam made opening comments regarding the Zoning Ordinance, reiterating the
fact that this is only an interim ordinance and should be considered as such.
At the time the General Plan is adopted sometime in November of this year,
Staff will be bringing back a full Zoning Ordinance implementing the goals
and policies of the General Plan.
Chairman Dahl wished it stated for the record that the Interim Zoning Ordinance
will not apply to the first round of filings in August on the Growth Management
System.
Mr. Hogan then began the review of the Ordinance with the Commission, starting
where they left off last time, at the Planned Development Combining District.
As Mr. Hogan discussed the changes in the Planned Development District, the
issue came up of whether or not mobilehome subdivisions and mobilehome condo-
miniums should be a permitted use within the Planned Development Combining
District. Much discussion ensued regarding the subject and it was agreed that
staff would draft a letter requesting information and input from the Chamber
of Commerce, the BIA, Board of Realtors, Lewis Homes, Arnold Anderson. and
Doug Gorgen, regarding mobilehome condominiums and mobilehome subdivis,ions.
After the information had been gathered and the work being done by the staff's
Planning Aide had been completed, staff would set up a study session in the
future in which to go over all the information.
Mr. Hogan continued with the discussion of the Planned Development zone and
the remaining zones and regulations proposed for change in the Interim Zoning
Adjourned Meeting
ow
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Ordinance. The Planning Commission agreed that this item should not be
heard at the August 13 meeting but continued to September 10, at which
time all of the revisions and corrections in the ordinance should be made
and presented to the Planning Commission for their~ review by Mr. Hogan.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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JACK LAM, Secretary
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CITY OF RANCHO 'CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
July 30, 1980
Adjourned Meeting
CALL TO ORDER;
The adjourned meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga was held in the Library Conference room, 9161 Base Line Read,
Rancho Cucamonga, on Wednesday, July BO, 1980. The meeting was called
to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Dahl .
ROLL CALL
PRESENT. COMMISSIONERS. Laura Jones, Herman Rempel , Jeff Scerank ,
Richard Dahl
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS® Peter Telstoy (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT: Barry Hogan, City Planner; Michael Vairin, Senior Planner;
Jack Lam, Director of Community Development; Lloyd Hubbs
City Engineer; John Martin, Assistant Civil Engineer; Paul
Rougeau, Senior Civil Engineer, Joan Kruse, Secretary
Director of Community Development, Jack Lam, stated that copies of the Su -
division Ordinance had been provided to the Chamber of Commerce, Board of
Realtors and'D. I A. prior to this meeting. Mr. Lam continued, that each
year the State makes revisions to the Subdivision Map Act and, in all cases,
the State Law prevails. The purpose of this adjourned meeting, he stated,
is to present theCity`s own Subdivision Ordinance. Mr. Lam explained that
the ordinance establishes the local review procedure, however, no modifications
to the present review procedures are proposed. Mr. Lam continued that the
Subdivision Ordinance is taking the form of a "cook book" approach. That: is,
it will have all necessary information contained within one document: The
document will be lengthy, but will be an effective tool for the Planning
Commission, general public and planning staff, to utilize.
Following Mr. Lam's remarks, City Attorney, Dougherty, stated that his opinion
about the form of the Subdivision Ordinance was totally different from that of
Mr. Lam. He stated further that he did not believe that the function of the
Subdivision Ordinance is to republish the State Subdivision Map Act. The
City Attorney also stated that there are continual revisions to the Subdivision
Ordinance which require publication of changes on an annual basis . Further,
that the cost of publication would be expensive. Mr. Dougherty also cited
differences between the Subdivision Map Act and the Subdivision; Ordinance as
prepared by the City's Planning Department. He felt that 'changing the
language to be understood by most people reading the document might allow'
for different interpretations than those set down in the State Subdivision
Map Act.
Mr. Lam then stated that the purpose of this study session was to review the
Subdivision Ordinance. Further, that the definitions as they were set down
in the Subdivision Ordinance have been sent to the City Attorney's Office for
review, as it is their job to review ordinances to be sure that their context
was correct. Mr. Lam stated that the Subdivision Ordinance is needed by the
City in order to operate in a more efficient manner.
There was discussion among the Commission relative to cost comparisons of
publication of the Subdivision Ordinance in this form as opposed to the
skeleton ordinance that the City was presently using.
Chairman Dahl asked staff what the percentage of repitition is in the document
compared to the State Map Act.
Mr. Lam stated that about 90 percent of the document is repeated from the State
Map Act.
Chairman Dahl then indicated that he would like to have input from developers
on this.
Mr. Ralph Lewis stated that as a developer, he likes the form that the new
Subdivision Ordinance is taking.
Mr. Ken Willis, representing the B. I. A. , stated that other cities in San
Bernardino and Riverside Counties use an inclusive ordinance document such
as the proposed Subdivision Ordinance. It was his opinion that the all
inclusive document saves a lot of time and eliminates confusion.
Commissioner Rempel indicated that the document must be correct and in layman's
terms felt that the form the proposed document is taking is practical .
Further discussion ensued between the City Attorney, Director of Community
Development, and the Planning Commission.
The consensus of the Planning Commission was that the cook book approach
would be the most useful document to have.
Following the discussion on what format the Subdivision Ordinance was to
take, the Planning Commission continued in their review of the ordinance.
There was considerable discussion relative to the expirations and extensions
given to conditional approvals of a tentative map. It was determined by the
Planning Commission that expirations shall take place 18 months from the date
of adoption of the resolution by the Planning Commission approving or con-
ditionally approving the map. In the case of time limits of extensions, the
approved extension was changed not to exceed an additional 24 months from the
18 months that had originally been proposed in the Subdivision Ordinance,
Following discussion on expiration and extensions, Mr. Lam stated that the
Subdivision Map Act now requires that the Planning Commission hold a public
hearing prior to their approving subdivisions.
There being no further discussion on the proposed Subdivision Ordinance, the
Planning Commission recessed at 9:00 p.m.
9:00 P.M. The Planning Commission recessed.
9:1 5 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened.
City Planner, Barry Hewn, rude a' presentation to the Planning Commission
relative to the Interim Zoning Ordinance and the proposed amendments.
Discussion among the Planning Commissioners and developers in the audience
relative to the Interim Zoning Ordinance centered primarily on the difference
in set backs. There was also some discussion on the size requirements for
horse property and set back requirements. It was the;consensus that staff
would prepare some examples and exhibits relative to the set backs for the
next study session.
Following considerable discussion by staff and the developers relative to
set bads and the ;space to be required between lot lines, the Planning
Commission adjourned at 11 :00 p.m.
11 :00 p.m. The Planning Commission adjourned;
esp ct 'ul l s bmi tte
Jack Lam, Secretary
CITY CAE RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
July 23 1980
Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga was held in the Lion's Park Community Center, 9161 Ease Line
Road, Rancho Cucamonga, on Wednesday, July 23, 1980.
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Richard Dahl at 7:03 p.m.
followed by the pledge to the flag
ROLL'CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Laura Jones, Herman Rempel, Jeff S eranka,
Richard Dahl
ABSENT: CO SSIONERS: Peter Tol.s toy,
ALSO PRESENT: Harry Hogan, City Planner; Jack Lam, Director of Community
Development; Ted Hopson, City Attorney; Michael Vairin,
Senior Planner Tim Beedl.e, Senior Planner; Lloyd Hubbs,
City Engineer; Joan Kruse, Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved ,by Rempel, seconded by Sc rank , carried unanimously, to
approve the June 25 1950 minutes as submitted.
ACES: COMMISSIONERS: Rempel, SceranRa, Jones, Dahl
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Nano
ABSENT: Cs ISSIONERS:' Tolestoy
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chairman Dahl Mated that Commissioner Laura Jones was retiring from the
Commission on August 1, He stated that her lass would e felt by; the
Commission and. the City of Rancho Cucamonga, and requested that the
Commission adopt a Resolution commending her for her service®
Motion: Moored by Rempel, seconded by Sc,erank , carried unanimously, to
adopt this Resolution;
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Rempel, Sceranka, Jones, Dahl
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Tolstoy
Mrs. Jones was commended by the Commissioners for her untiring effort
on behalf of the Planning Commission and for a job well done.
A framed Resolution was presented to Mrs. Jones.
Chairman Dahl advised that a new Commissioner, Mr. Jeffrey King, an
attorney, had been appointed to replace Mrs. Jones on the Commission
effective August I.
Mr. Jack Lam, Director of Community Development, advised the Commission
of a letter received from a citizen relative to the number of shopping
centers and provided a copy as information to the Planning Commission.
Chairman Dahl stated that the following changes would take place on the
various Planning Commission Committees:
CAC - Tolstoy, Sceranka, Rampel, Alternate
The reason for this change was that the representation of Jeff Sceranka
on this committee would have constituted a quorum of the Commission on
the Committee.
Flood Control - Jeff King, Alternate
Chamber of Commerce Industrial Committee - Jeff King, Jeff Sceranka
Chairman Dahl asked if there were any objections to these appointments.
There being none, it was moved by Dahl, seconded by Sceranka, carried
unanimously, that these appointments be made.
Commissioner Rempel stated that the appointments to the Street Naming
Committee remained to be acted upon.
Chairman Dahl advised that he did not wish to make appointments to this
Committee until the staff completes the Ordinance for review by the
Planning Commission. Chairman Dahl also requested that the Historical
Committee provide a list of names for the review of the Commission to be
used in naming new streets in the community.
Commissioner Rempel cited the urgency in acting on a street naming policy
prior to growth management filing.
Discussion among the Commis§ion ensued.
Jack Lam stated that a draft ordinance has been, prepared and was available
for review.
Discussion ensued on whether a committee should be formed to review street
names prior to review of the street naming ordinance.
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Motion: Moved by Sceranka, seconded by Jones, that the Historical
Commission prepare a listing of possible street names to be used in
conjunction with the Street Naming Ordinance.
Commissioner Rempel said he would vote no on this motion stating that
he still has a problem with getting a list of names without an
established system.
Further discussion ensued with the consensus that the ordinance review
and provision of names by the Historical Commission be done concurrently.
Motion: Moved by Jones, seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously, that
Commissioners Dahl and Rempel be named to the Street Naming Committee.
CONSENT CALENDAR
DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 80-15 AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT - MOUNTAIN VIEW
BUILDERS, INC. - The construction of an Industrial Building to be
located on the southeast corner of Pecan and Arrow Route - APN 229-171-
06,07,08
DIRECTOR REVIEW NO. 80-20 AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT - JOHN D. LUSK -
The development of 85,000 sq. ft. of industrial space on 4®6 acres in
the M-2 zone located on the northwest corner of 4th and Haven.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESS N <OF PARCEL MAP NO. 6175 - LYLE AND ANN BENTON -
residential subdivision of 2.62 acres into four parcels within the
R-1 zone located at 9611 Hillside Road APN 1061-531-01.
Motion: Moved by Jones, seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously, to
approve the Consent Calendar,
PUBLIC HEARINGS
SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE
Community Development Director, Jack Lam, reported that the ordinance being
reviewed by the Commission at this meeting had been provided to the Chamber
of Commerce and the Board of Realtors for their review. He further
indicated that he would like the Planning Commission to review this
ordinance and indicate how they would like it considered before going
to public hearing. Mr. Lam stated that staff has asked interested
groups to provide any comments they may gave relative to the ordinance
prior to August 10 and to also indicate their interest in participating
in a study session. Mr. Lam advised that there is one significant
change to the Subdivision Map Act, that being the requirement of a
public hearing for approval of subdivision maps.
Following discussion of possible dates for a study/work session, it
was determined that Wednesday, July 30, <1980, at 7:00 p.m. in the Library
Conference Room be set as the time and place for review of the Subdivision
Ordinance.
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City Attorney Hopson stated that his office had not yet reviewed the
ordinance; however, it appeared that it recapitulates the State Law.
He further indicated that a local ordinance does not control as it is
superseded by State law. City Attorney Hopson stated that it was the
opinion of his office that a skeleton ordinance was better than
providing so lengthly a document and cited the costs that would be
incurred through changes and the required publications. He stated
that even if it was more difficult to work with, it was his feeling
to leave the State law where it is and deal with the local ordinance.
Mr. Lam stated <that he knew that the State law changes each year but
other jurisdictions having a comprehensive ordinance make revisions
to it only once or twice a year. The value of a comprehensive
ordinance, be said, was in having all the needed information in one
place. It was a "cook book" approach, and it was felt that it is
better to have this type of ordinance.
INTERIM ZONING ORDINANCE - Revision to Residential, POD, Planning and
Admini tration Sections of the San Bernardino County Zoning Ordinance
as adopted by the City of Rancho Cucamonga.
Jack Lam provided background to the existing zoning ordinance indicating
that because the General Plan, is nearing completion a new zoning ordinance
has not been introduced. He further indicated that modifications would
be made primarily to the residential sections due to the new filings
which would begin on August 1 , but was not asking the Commission for
adoption but for review and study.
Mr. Barry Hogan, City Planner, apprised the Commission of the changes in
the proposed Interim Zoning Ordinance, indicating that sections R-1,
R-2, R-3, the Parking and PUD areas would be altered. He also stated
that lot set backs would be changed in accordance with lot size.
Chairman Dahl opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Chairman Dahl indicated that there would be a work/study session on
this item at 7:00 p.m® , on Wednesday, July 30, 1980, in the Library
Conference Room.
NEW BUSINESS
LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR DAON BARTON - PHASE I
Senior Planner, Michael Vairin, reviewed the staff report and recommended
that the Planning Commission approve the landscape plans for Daon/Barton
Phase I subject to the inclusion of landscape planters in front of the
screen walls indicated on the landscape plans.
Motion: Moved by Jones, seconded by Sceranka, carried unanimously, to
approve this item.
DIRECTOR REPORTS
EIR'S REVIEW PROCESS
Jack Lam advised that in the near future, the Planning Commission will
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be getting into the review process of EIR's and felt it important
that the Commission know how they should be adopted and implemented.
Barry Hogan, City Planner discussed the EIR process indicating the
State's guidelines and how the EIR's should be approved. Mr. Hogan
further stated that soon the Commission would have before them the
EIR's for the General Plan, Victoria Planned Community and the Terra
Vista Planned Community. Mr. Hogan indicated that if the Commission
felt that applicants satisfy the requirements in addressing noise,
traffic, etc. , that an EIR should not be asked for. However, if
there are problems that need to be addressed, an EIR would be a proper
vehicle to use.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND CONSISTENCY WITH PROPOSED GENERAL
PLAN
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, apprised the Commission of the new
procedure for accepting applications for residential development in
the City under the City's Growth Management Review Process. Mr. Vairin
indicated that applications would come in different forms, depending
on its type, and would require different review processes.
Mr. Vairin informed the Commission of the filing period, the hours that
applications would be accepted, and the way that the projects would be
grouped to prevent the establishment of priorities.
After the review of the projects and the grouping of them, staff will
prepare resolutions for final adoption by the Commission at one meeting.
It was anticipated that this would be done in November, following the
Planning Commission's review. Mr. Vairin indicated that another
major concern was the implementation of the growth management process
and how the Commission would act on approving various projects. He
explained what the requirements are under the growth management procedure.
Mr. Lam reiterated that there would be no established priority system
for approval of the applications and indicated that all applications
would be approved in one resolution. The mandatory criteria of a letter
from the school districts and the water district indicating available
capacity prior to approval of a final map was explained as being
necessary before any final map can be approved.
8:30 P.M. The Planning Commission recessed.
8:40 P.M. The Planning Commission reconvened.
Community Development Director, Jack Lam, stated that the Citizens
Advisory Committee has been working on a draft of the General Plan
and that it would be desirable for everyone to have the same 'base of
understanding of the General Plan. He indicated that Tim Beedle,
Senior Planner, had prepared an overview of the General Plan and would
present this report to the Commission.
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Tim Beedle provided the background and history of the General Plan
process detailing the involvement of community groups in the process.
He advised of the work the various consultants had done to finalize
the General Plan document. In answer to the Commission's questions
regarding community priorities, Mr. Needle indicated that interest
lies in parks and recreation, a theme for the three distinctly
different communities, and land use.
Discussion ensued among the Commissioners relative to community goals,
the quality of life and the General Plan as a tool to provide what,
the community wants.
Commissioner Rempel asked when the process on the General Plan would
begin.
Tim Beedle stated that the traffic section was now being modeled and
the figures sent to the consultant. After the traffic consultant
forwards the figures to the General Plan consultant, this portion as
well as the energy conservation portion will be incorporated into the
draft and will conclude the process. Mr. Beedle stated that staff
should be reviewing the General Plan by the end of August or the first
of September and the document will be available at the end of September
for the public and the hearing process in October.
The Commission discussed the importance of community agreement in the
General Plan.
Barry Rogan advised of the importance of the Zoning Ordinance as a tool
in the control of proper development. He' further advised that the
zoning ordinance would not come before the commission until the General
Plan is completed.
Councilman Jim Frost addressed the Commission and spoke of the Etiwanda
area and the divergence of community interests that exist in this one
area. He indicated that it was important to get community input but
injected a word of caution that it is important to do what is best for
the community. He stated that he was personally working on the
development of a meeting in the Etiwanda area to receive input and would
be communicating an invitation very shortly.
Mr. Joe Dilorio addressed the Commission and stated that cluster
development is a future consideration to retain the open look of the
area. He further indicated that he thought the Etiwanda area would
develop into half acre tracts and that an analysis of the area was
needed to protect the uniqueness of the area.
Mr. Dilorio stated that a financial plan for the city is a must with
consideration given to different means of financing and new and
innovative methods explored.
Mr. DiIorio stated, that a financial task force appointed by the City
Council was needed now to work on long range finances for the City.
Planning Commission Meeting -6- July 23, 1980
Mr. Doug Hone addressed the Commission. He indicated that it was
necessary for the Planning Commission to look at the opportunity for
developing the. Community.
Jeff Scer :nka stated that planning and organization are important in
projecting growth. in Rancho Cucamonga. Funding improvements will be
one of the primary concerns, he stated, and cited the importance of
assessment districts to meet future funding needs. Lease backs were
also spoken of as a financing Ling lter tier .
Following discussion, Chairman Dahl polled the Commission as to the
advisability of recommending that the City Council appoint a Financial
Task Force. The consensus of the Commission was that this item should
be recommended to the. Council and it was moved by Sceranka, seconded
by Rampel, carried unanimously, that the City Council investigate '
appointing a Financial Task Force to be comprised of individuals within
the community with expertise in the areas of finances and planning to
stud; alternatives to meet the Ci.ty's financial needs.
Jack Lam stated that unless the goals of the community .are defined,
the study of funding; mechanisms would serve no useful purpose. He
stated that it would be best to want until the. General Plan was
competed so that a `master plan can be developed.
Motion: Moved by Rempel, seconded by Jones, carried unanimously,
to adjourn to a work/study session at :00 p.m. on July 30, 1980 in
the Library Conference Room on the Subdivision Ordinance and the
Interim Zoning Ordinance.
Adjourned 10:37 F. .
Respe tfll'ily bra .tt'ed
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JACK -L Secretary
Planning Commission Meeting - - July 23, 1980
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
July 9, 1980
Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER:
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
was held in the Lion's Park Community Center, 9161 Base Line Road, Rancho Cu-
camonga, on Wednesday, July 9, 1980.
Meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Dahl, who led in the pledge
of allegiance.
Following the pledge, an invocation was offered by Reverend Elmer Thyr, Pastor
of the Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT- COMMISSIONERS: Laura Jones, Herman Rempel, Jeff Sceranka,
Peter Tolstoy, Richard Dahl
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None
ALSO PRESENT: Barry Hogan, City Planner; Jack Lam, Director of Community
Development; Ted Hopson, City Attorney; Michael Vadrin,
Senior Planner; Tim Beedle, Senior Planner; Lloyd Hubbs,
City Engineer; Joan Kruse, Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Tolstoy requested that the June 11, 1980 Planning Commission minutes
be corrected, to also include congratulations to Lloyd Hubbs on his second anni-
versary of employment with the City of Rancho Cucamonga.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Jones, carried, to approve the June 11,
1980 Planning Commission minutes as corrected.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, JONES, REMPEL, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: SCERANKA -carried-
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chairman Dahl, on behalf of the Planning Commission and members of staff, pre-
sented a plaque to Herman Rem pee, former Planning Commission chairman, in recog-
nition of his service from March 8, 1978 through June 30, 1980.
Commissioner Rempel expressed his appreciation and thanked everyone for the
plaque.
Community Development Director, Jack Lam, stated that Tentative Tract No. 11461.
would, be added to this agenda under Old Business.
Mr. Lam reported that the Southern California Planning Congress would meet on
July 10 with Mark Pisano, Executive Director of SAC, speaking on current prob-
lems and future solutions regarding the SCAG Region. Mr. Pisano will be making
5-year projections on what is in store for the Southland. All Planning Commis-
sioners were invited to attend this meeting.
COMMITTEE UPDATES
Chairman Dahl stated that there were several appointments and changes he wished
to make to various Planning Commission Committees.
Design Review - Commissioners Dahl and Rempel, Sceranka alternate.
Citizens Advisory Committee - Commissioners Rempel, Tolstoy.
Zoning Committee - Commissioners Toistoy, Sceranka, Rempel Alternate.
Flood Control Committee - Commissioners Tolstoy, Rempel, Alternate open for
new Commissioner.
Chamber of Commerce Industrial Committee - Commissioner Sceranka, vacancy open
for new Commissioner.
Chairman Dahl asked if there were any objections to these appointments.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated that he had a> problem with the appointments to
the Zoning Committee and stated that con tinuity would, be hampered if member-
ship in that committee were changed. He suggested that Commissioner Rempel con-
tinue on that committee with Commissioner Sceranka, and that he serve as alternate.
There were no objections to this change.
Commissioner Rempel stated that another, committee should be temporarily assigned
to work on the street naming ordinance. Commissioner Rempel cited the urgency
of such a committee since development filing would begin in,'August.
Barry Hogan, City Planner, indicated that a street naming ordinance is being
drafted in final form and would be ready for discussion in about a week.
Following discussion by the Planning Commission, Chairman Dahl indicated that
the Street NL aming Committee would be held over.
City Attorney Hopson advised the Commission that if they were in accord with
the Committee appointments they could formalize these actions by resolution
or by minute action.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Jones, carried unanimously, to adopt
a resolution approving these Committee appointments.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY, JONES, REMPEL, SCERANKA, DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT- COMMISSIONERS: ONE -carried-
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Chairman Dahl stated that committee reports and updates will be forthcoming
from the individuals who serve on these committees.
GENERAL PLAN STATUS AND INDUSTRIAL SPECIFIC PLAN STATUS
Mr. Tip, Beedle, Senior Planner, reported on the status of the General Plan.
He indicated that the Land Use :dement of the General Plan was in the process
of study by the Traffic Consultant tant prior to input into the traffic fic 'model.
Preliminary reports have indicated that portions of the City would have traffic
impaction, he stated. Staff is now reviewing the General Plan and studying
the characteristics prior to the traffic model run. Mr. Beedle further in-
dicated that this would set the schedule back another four weeks since the
traffic model is not expected to be run until the first part of August. This
will then be forwarded to the consultant for inclusion into the textual por-
tion of the General Plan.. Mr. Beedle stated that the public review will
begin in September.
Beedle stated that the Industrial Specific Plan is proceeding along sche-
dule. The textual portion has been received and the graphics are expected
soon. Mr. Beedle indicated that the preliminary plate. has ;been sent to the
Executive Industrial Committee and that staff has gone through an extensive
study session reviewing the material with them. Mr. Beedle stated that the
Industrial. Committee's recommendations are being forwarded to the consultant.
A review schedule will be available for the Industrial Committee and the rest
of the public during the middle or latter part of August. The specific sche-
dule depends on when the traffic information is completed by the consultant.
In discussing the proposed schedule for the General. Plan, Mr. Beedle stated
that the latter part of September is planned for public review and that the
General Plan should be ready for hearings around the first part of October.
Following Mr. Reedle's report, Mr. Lam, Director of Community Development,
stated that wort/'study session is planned. for the July 23 Planning Commis-
sion meeting to discuss the Industrial Specific Plan; and the General Plan.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ENVIRONEMNTAL ASSESSMENT OF PARCEL MAP No. 613E - SAVAGE A residential: sub-
division of 1.95 acres of band in the R-I-20,000 zone into 3 parcels located
on the east side of Mayberry Avenue, mirth of Wilson Avenue - APN 201-111-36.
Lam advised the Planning Commission that staff requests that this item be
removed to allow further study of a discrepancy which had surfaced.
Motion; Moved by Rempel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried unanimously, to remove
this item from the agenda.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Dahl advised that a new procedure was being initiated at this meeting
and asked any individuals who wished to address the Commission to sign their
name, address, and the item they would discuss on the sign up sheet at the podium.
ENV IRO NNENTAL ASSESSMENT AND SITE APPROVAL NO. 80-09 - LUTHERAN CHURCH - The develop-
ment of a church facility on 2.11 acres in the A-P zone located on the northwest
corner of Haven and Banyan Avenues. Ai'N 201-241-1.
Mike Vairin, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report. He indicated that one
change would be made to the conditions of approval for this project which would
require the addition of a median island, complete landscaping and a full standard
left-turn pocket. Chairman Dahl asked if there were any questions from the Com-
mission.
Commissioner Hempel asked if the property owner on the west side of this property
had been contacted regarding construction of a block wall to separate this property.
Mike Vairin replied that he had not been specifically contacted regarding this
but had received notification of the public hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy pointed out that irrigation and landscaping should be listed
as a condition of approval. There was discussion on the Commissioners regarding
landscaping, street trees, and ground cover and whether landscaping would be
phased or done at one time.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that it was important that some careful thinking
go into the design of the Haven Avenue median, as it has for Carnelian. He fur-
ther stated that he did not wish to see mediocrity of median islands.
Commissioner Dahl stated that there were several different projects along Haven
Avenue and each has a different design. He further stated his agreement with
Commissioner Tolutoy that median design should be handled in the same way and.
should be consistent.
Chairman Dahl asked if the applicant was present and wished to speak.
Mr. Karl Irwin, 3736 Atlantic Avenue, Ling Beach, addressed the Commission and
asked about completion of the median island and whether there would be reimburse-
ment for the landscaping when it was developed from the property owner on. the
east of this project.
Mr. Lam answered stating that there would be a reimbursement agreement for these
improvements.
There was further discussion among the Commissioners regarding mounding or
other means of screening rather than the use of block walls. Several suggestions
were made to conceal or<screen the property through use of landscaping, berming
and mounding.
Michael. Vairin replied that it has been the Planning Department's experience
that property owners insist on block walls as a means of separating and screening
property.
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Commissioner Tolstoy commented can drainage from this property and asked whether
the present storm drain had sufficient capacity to take further run off.
Mr.. Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer, stated that the storm drain was at its maximum
capacity but if it :was functioning properly, would handle the run off wwater.
e stated that staff would look into the hydraulic design for this area, and
that approval of the Flood. Control facility is required prior to any connections
that would be made.
Motion: loved by Rempel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried unanimously, to adopt
a resolution setting forth the conditions of approval as amended and adding a
reimbursement agreement for the east half of the median island.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS REMPEL, TOLS CY, JONES, SCERANKA, "DAHL
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NOS -carried-
8:10 p.m. The Planning Commission recessed.
8.-25 p. . The Planning Commission reconvened,
OLD BUSINESS
TENTATIVE TRACT NO 11461 - LEWIS HOMES - A request to convert a previously ap-
proved 248 unit apartment complex on 15.2 acres of .land into condominiums. The
project is located can the north side of Nineteenth Street, between Carnelian
and Beryl in the R--:3 (multiple family residential) nuns, and generally known
as Sunscape TT.
r. Barry Hogan, City Planner, advised the Commission that the applicant i
requesting approval to phase the development of this condominium complex for
the purposes of sel:l.ing:'
Following questions by the Planning Commission, Mr. John 'dithers of Lewis Develop-
ment explained that the VA requires that 50 percent of the units must be sold,
prior to occupancy taking place. If phasing of this development is allowed, it
would preclude the sale of 50 percent of the condominiums prior to occupancy.
Motion: . Moved. by Rempel seconded by Sceran a,, carried unanimously, to adopt a
Resolution approving Tentative `bract No. 11461 to allow development phasing and
rescinding Resolution No. 80®33 in its entirety.
AYES,: COMMISSIONERS:ISSI iNERS: HEMPEL, SCERANKA., JONES, `LO STOY DAHI
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried-
DIRECTOR REPORTS
NEW WALK MINISTRY UPDATE
Mr. Barry Hogan, City Planner, provide - an update to the Commission and stated
that he had met with Mr. Tommy Stephens of the County Planning Department re-
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garding the development of this church facility in the area of Archibald. and
Hillside, He further stated that there was concern for the environment because
of this development and indicated that the New Walk Ministry had been advised
of the C ty's requirements for such development. Mr. Hogan stated that this
project will be reviewed by the Environmental Review Offices of
San Bernardino
County on July 22. He further advised that staff would be present at this hearing.
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REPORT ON ONTARIO MOTOR HPEZDWA
Mr. Tim Beedle, Senior Planner, reviewed the staff report, and stated- that
the
Ontario-Foothill Development Corporation is proposing a General Plan Amendment
to change the land-use designations of the speedway and associated parking area
to planned commercial use with a specific plan for a multi-use regional. center
including 4 million square feet of retail-office use in addition to 1,000 dwel-
ling units
:Needle made general comments, advised of the traffic impacts expected, the
likely growth as a"result of this project, flood and drainage considerations,
air quality impact, the relationship to surrounding uses and the service system
capacity. He; noted that an EIR was being prepared for this project and Ontario
requested City input.
Chairman Dahl asked what consideration was being given to a'rapid. transit systemI
using rails. Mr. Beedle replied that a depot at the speedway was a consideration.
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Mr. Beedmle also stated that traffic was going to be a challenge and that many
different solutions would be utilized.
Commissioner sera ka asked what impact .I,000 dwelling'units Would have on 'the
City's Housing Element
Mr. Beed.e stated that it would be hard to project what effect this would have.
The only figures the City has are those provided by CCAC along with their pro-
jections
Lam stated that if the City develops its industrial areas, a' lot of jobs
will. have been generated and, this will have an effect on the entire area..
Commission Tolstoy asked Mr. Hubbs if development of the Speedway and its com-
mercial uses, will, have some effect in upgrading the surer plan for the City of
Rancho Cucamonga.
m will enhance the Czt s chances
Ontario development 1
Mr. Hubbs indicated that .the p y
of developing storm. drains He stated: that this would be monitored closely.
PRESENTATION OF TREE PRESERVATION REPOR
Michael Vairin, Senior Planner, gave a slide presentation to the PlanningCom-
mission which focused on the ,Blue- Gum eucalyptus tree used formerly as windrows
for agricultural purposes within the City of Rancho Cucamonga. The slide;pre-
sentation showed the overall condition of the Blue Gums growing in the City,
highlighting the degree of preservation, its hazards, abuse and the trees in
the community.
The tree preservation report presented various options for the continued pre-
servation of the trees, possible replacement with other species, and possible
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replacement with other species along with possible combination options such as
selective preservation. -
Following the slide presentation, Commissioners C eranka and Tolstoy indicated
their preference for option No. It of the tree preservation report, selective
preservation, replacement and wind control.
Considerable discussion took place regarding the Blue Gums and the current
preservation program and its limitations. Also discussed wa.s the program ini-
tiated it the City of Irvine ;and its successes and failures.
Commissioner Tolstcy stated, that he hoped that the City does not loose sight
of the fact that the Blue Gums bave been a protection against the strong winds
that occur in this area. He indicated that they were valuable as screening and
windrows and were put up by the farmers for a reason.
Mr. Lam stated that if the Commission felt that they have been informed on this
issue sufficiently, staff would like to present this to the City: Council .
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if there would be further opportunity for input from
the Commission.
Mr. Lam stated that there would be another opportunity when a final tree preser-
vation ordinance was drafted -
Chairman 'Dahl asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak to 'this'issue.
Mary Barlow, member of" -the CAC, stated that the preservation of the trees was
important from the standpoint of the identity they provide within the community.
s. Barlow further stated that one remora so many people chose to live in
Rancho Cucamonga ga was because of the rural atmosphere that these large trees
impart. _ She cautioned against total replacement of the older trees with some
that are smaller. She :further stated it was her feeling that some individual
responsibility should be taken in the care and preservation'of the older trees
in the community.
Mr. Art Bridge, 8715 Banyan, spoke to the Co is on stating thdt he has some
30 acres of lemon trees which are bordered by the Blue Gums. He related that
while Commander at the March Air Force Base in Riverside, he studied the Blue
Gum and ether eucalyptus trees with the result that considerable planting was
done of another species of ecalyptus. He further stated that the planting of
these trees at the Base has done much to provide protection and beauty and in-
vited the Commission to 'see the effect they have provided, at the Base.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he felt that Mrs. Barlow "hit the nail on the
head" when she said that people moved into this area because of its atmosphere.
He Mated that he was concerned that the Blue dens should be replaced but also
felt that the character ;of the community must be preserved..
It was the consensus of the Commi,,Ision that options four and five be developed
e for the Cityof Rancho Cucamonga and recom-
mended a, viable tree preservation policy o
wended that the City Council take action to support selective tree preservation,
replacement and wind control
Motion. Moved by Tempel , seconded by Ccerana., carried unanimously, to adjourn
at :30 p.m.
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ADJOURNMENT
The Planning C mmission adjourned at : C p.m.
Rey ubm* ed,
JACK LAM, Director of
Co=nunity Development
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