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HomeMy WebLinkAboutHPC Minutes 1992-1998 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 23, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for December 23, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, B uller Secretary l CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 9, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for.December 9, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, rad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 25, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for November 25, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, B uller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 11, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for November 11, 1998, was canceled because of the holiday. Respectfully submitted, Br uller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 28, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for October 28, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, uller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 14, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for October 14, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, B Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 23, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for September 23, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, uller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 9, 1998 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: David Barker STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller,City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Brent Le Count, Associate Planner; Sal Salazar,Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Chairman McNiel announced that Item A from the Historic Preservation Commission agenda would be heard in conjunction with Item C on the Planning Commission agenda. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Macias, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-1 (Barker absent), to approve the minutes of July 22, 1998. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 98-01 - NORTHTOWN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION - An application to designate the Guidera Winery House as an Historic Landmark. The structure was built around 1921 and moved from 12737 Foothill Boulevard to its present site at 9801 Main Street - APN: 0209-062-23. Related file: Conditional Use Permit 98-18. Following from the Planning Commission agenda: C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 98-18 - NORTHTOWN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION - An application to request authority to use an existing 1,213 square foot historic structure, the Guidera Winery House, for an office use within the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre), located at 9801 Main Street - APN: 0209-062-23. Related file: Landmark Designation 98-01. Sal Salazar,Associate Planner,presented the staff report and indicated staff had received a letter of support from an adjoining property owner. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Peter Pitassi, AIA, Architect, 8439 White Oak Avenue, Suite 105, Rancho Cucamonga, reported that Northtown Housing Development Corporation purchased the property approximately eight months ago intending to renovate it and sell it as part of their affordable housing program. He said they have since decided this would be a natural place to have their office in order to be able to better serve the community. He agreed with the conditions in the resolution and said they would only have to add power and phone outlets in order to accommodate the office use and there would be no exterior modifications. Nacho Gracia, Executive Director, Northtown Housing Development Corporation, 9999 Feron Boulevard, Suite A, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they would like to use the house as an office because it is in the middle of the area they serve. He observed that some of their clients walk to their office and said he did not want to move the office out of the area. Commissioner Tolstoy asked what they intend to do at the end of three years since they had indicated the house will only be used as an office for approximately two to three years. Mr. Gracia responded they are looking for some place to build. He said they considered the community center but it did not work. ' Commissioner Tolstoy hoped they will stay in the same area because he felt it is important. Mr. Gracia agreed. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the proposal is a wintwin situation. He thought Northtown Housing Development Corporation should have offices as close as possible to the area. He felt the Craftsman style architecture looks wonderful. He supported the project. Motion: Moved by Macias,seconded byTolstoy,to adopt the resolutions recommending approval of Landmark Designation 98-01 and approving Conditional Use Permit 98-18. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: BARKER - carried Chairman McNiel stated he echoed Commissioner Tolstoy's comments and said that he felt Northtown Housing Development Corporation is doing an excellent job. PUBLIC COMMENTS HPC Minutes -2- September 9, 1998 There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:18 p.m. Respectfull submitted, Brad er Secretary HPC Minutes -3- September 9, 1998 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 26, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for August 26, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, ZBra Iler Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 12, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for August 12, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, B ler Secretary 1 t CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 22, 1998 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Bill Bethel, Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller,City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Cecilia Gallardo, Assistant Planner; Tom Grahn, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Lois Schrader, ' Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner announced that the City of Rancho Cucamonga had received a state award from the American Planning Association for"The Kid's Neighborhood Workshop" created by Dan Coleman, Principal Planner. Mr. Buller noted that this was a great honor to receive this award and, in fact, was the first award of its kind received by the City. Chairman Barker added his commendations to all who may have been involved with the project. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Commissioner McNiel, seconded by Commissioner Tolstoy, carried 4-0-0-1 (Bethel abstain), to approve the minutes of February 25, 1998. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 98-01 - SCOTT & MICHELLE LUKESH - A request to consider plans to add'a Porte-Cochere to the Landmark designated Nesbit-McCorkle House (built approximately 1924), located at 7608 Hellman Avenue - APN: 208-073-43. Related files: Mills Act Agreement 97-01 and Landmark Designation 97-01. Brad Buller, City Planner presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Hearing no testimony, he closed the public hearing. Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy to adopt the motion to adopt the resolution approving Landmark Alteration Permit 98-01. The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE -carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS B. HISTORICAL MONUMENT DESIGN -AMERICAN STORES PROPERTIES- Consideration of a request to approve the historical monument design for Lucky's Shopping Center in the Community Commercial District (Subarea 2) of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located at the northwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Vineyard Avenue - APN: 207-102-20. Related File: Conditional Use Permit 97-19. The staff report was presented by Tom Grahn, Associate Planner. Chairman Barker noted forthe record that diagrams and materials were distributed to the Planning Commission earlier which highlight the aspects of the proposed monument. Commissioner Tolstoy asked who would supply the plaques. , Brad Buller, City Planner, responded that this would be the responsibility of the development. Chairman Barker invited public comment. Roger Watson, American Stores, 6565 Knott Avenue, Buena Park, indicated the plaques will be designed by professionals and that those designs would be subject to the approval of the Planning Department. He explained that the tile motifs would be 4-inch tiles set into the concrete and that prints of the tiles were supplied to the Planning Commission. Moved by Barker, seconded by Tolstoy,to approve the historical monument design for the Lucky's Shopping Center. The motion was carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE -carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. HPC Minutes -2- July 22, 1998 COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Commissioner McNiel, seconded by Commissioner Bethel. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:09 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -3- July 22, 1998 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 8, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for July 8, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, uller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 24, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 24, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Bra er Secretary 1. CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 10, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 10, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, m ZB Iler Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 27, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for May 27, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, ZBr a uller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 13, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for May 13, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Br ler Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 22, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for April 22, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Res a ully s i Brad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 8, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for April 8, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, r lerZSB ecretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 25, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 25, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, B Iler Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 11, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 11, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Br Iler Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 25, 1998 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:05 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: William Bethel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney; Cecilia Gallardo, Assistant Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Rebecca Van Buren, Associate Planner ' ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the applicant for Items A and B would like to have the matter continued indefinitely in order to allow researching of alternatives. Commissioner McNiel stepped out of the room. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Macias, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-2, (Bethel, McNiel absent), to approve the minutes of January 10, 1998, Joint Redevelopment Agency/Historic Preservation Commission. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Barker, carried 2-0-2-1 (Bethel, McNiel absent; Macias abstain), to approve the minutes of January 14, 1998. Commissioner McNiel returned. 4 4 f f f PUBLIC HEARINGS A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MODIFICATION TO LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 96-02 - CAMPOS - A request to demolish four single family residences located at 9618, 9626, 9634, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard, and reconstruct with new replica structures- APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10, and 11. Staff has prepared a Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. Related File: Development Review 93-15. B. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 97-01 -CAMPOS-A request to rescind the Local Historic Landmark Designation (LD 94-02) and re-designate as a Point of Interest for four single family residences located at 9618, 9626, 9634, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10 and 11. Related Files: Landmark Alteration Permit 96-02, Development review 93-15, and Landmark Designation 94-02. Chairman Barker observed that the applicant had requested an indefinite continuance. He asked if anyone wished to address the matter. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested the Commission review the decision„regarding the small lots. He feared the project will have problems with parking because of.the narrow width. Mr. Buller stated that the parcels to the north along Estacia Court were considered along with the parcels fronting Foothill Boulevard. He agreed it will probably take the entire block to work properly. He said staff has encouraged this applicant to try to work with the gas station owner and the properties to the east and west. He agreed it will be difficult to get it to work with just a few lots. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that ingress and egress appear to be a problem. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Macias, to continue the items indefinitely. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE , ABSENT: MACIAS, MCNIEL - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. i i 11i R COMMISSION BUSINESS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the Isles House had been moved to the abandoned Southern Pacific Railroad right of way just north of the Chaffey Garcia House. He stated that Principal Planner Larry Henderson orchestrated the move and did an excellent job. He said the move took less than two hours. Chairman Barker expressed appreciation for Mr. Henderson's efforts and to the City Council for doing whatever was necessary to save the house. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 (Bethel absent), to adjourn. HPC Minutes -2- February 25, 1998 The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:11 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Brad B er Secretary HPC Minutes -3- February 25, 1998 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 11, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for February 11, 1998,was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, B OdBuller Secretary r CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 28, 1998 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for January 28, 1998, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, B uller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 14, 1998 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, William Bethel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Rich Macias, Larry McNiel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Rebecca Van Buren, Associate Planner # # # # 4 ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that staff was recommending that Item C be tabled to an uncertain date. * # * 4 APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Bethel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-2 (Macias, McNiel absent), to approve the minutes of December 10, 1997. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MODIFICATION TO LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 96-02 - CAMPOS - A request to demolish four single family residences located at 9618, 9626, 963, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard, and reconstruct with new replica structures - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10, and 11. Staff has prepared a Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. Related File: Development Review 93-15. B. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 97-01 - CAMPOS - A request to rescind the Local Historic Landmark Designation (LD 94-02) and redesignate as a Point of Interest for four single family residences located at 9618, 9626, 963, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10 and 11. Related Files: Landmark Alteration Permit 96-02, Development review 93-15, and Landmark Designation 94-02. Chairman Barker observed that the items were continued from December 10, 1997, and the public hearing remained open. There were no comments. n Hearing no objections, Chairman Barker continued Modification to Landmark Alteration Permit 96-02 and Historic Point of Interest Designation 97-01 to February 25, 1998. C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 97-01 - RANCHO CUCAMONGA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY - A request for a phased demolition of approximately 35,268 to 44,298 square feet of building area of the Ellena/Regina Winery, previously designated as a local historic landmark (Landmark Designation 88-04), located on the south side of Base Line Road approximately 600 feet west of the intersection of Victoria Park Lane at 12467 Base Line Road - APN: 227-161-24. Staff has prepared a Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. Chairman Barker reported there had been a joint City Council/Historic Preservation Commission meeting on January 10, 1998, at which time new direction was given to staff. He indicated staff is to prepare revised plans before the Commission reviews the matter. Hearing no objection, Chairman Barker tabled Landmark Alteration Permit 97-01. # # # # # PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. • # R Ie # COMMISSION BUSINESS ' There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Bethel, carried 3-0-2 (Macias, McNiel absent) to adjourn. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -2- January 14, 1998 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 24, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for December 24, 1997, was canceled for the holiday. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 10, 1997 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, William Bethel, Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Linda Daniels, Redevelopment Agency Manager; Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Cecilia Gallardo, Assistant Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Brent Le Count, Associate Planner; Bill Makshanoff, Building Official; Jan Reynolds, Redevelopment Agency Analyst; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Cathy Wahistrom, Redevelopment Agency Analyst ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Bethel, seconded by McNiel, carried 5-0, to approve the minutes of November 12, 1997. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 97-02 - C.O.R. PROPERTIES - A request to rescind the Local Historic Landmark Designation (LD 92-02) and redesignate as a Point of Interest for the Pearson Filling Station and Garage, located at the northeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Etiwanda Avenue, 12912 Foothill Boulevard, APN: 1100-061-02. Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Barry Vantiger, C.O.R. Properties, 129 North Euclid Avenue, Ontario, supported staffs recommendation. He believed the suggestions from the Etiwanda Historical Society were severe and would mean additional hardship. He stated the HABS/HAER had already been drawn on the canopy and said he was willing to final on the remainder of the building. He indicated he would be happy to erect a plaque and that he would donate the building as well as pay an amount equal to the cost of demolition toward relocation. Commissioner Macias asked if the relocation would be off-site. Brad Buller, City Planner, observed that the resolution leaves the relocation site open. Commissioner Macias felt the request was straightforward. He noted the matter had been discussed at the last meeting and said he agreed with staffs recommendation regarding conditions. Commissioner McNiel stated he wanted to save the building. Motion: Moved by Macias; seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the resolution recommending approval of Historic Point of Interest Designation 97-02. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, TOLSTOY NOES: MCNIEL ABSENT: NONE - carried B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MODIFICATION TO LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 96-02 - CAMPOS - A request to demolish four single family residences located at 9618, 9626, 963, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard, and reconstruct with new replica structures - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10, and 11. Staff has prepared a Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. Related File: Development Review 93-15. , C. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 97-01 - CAMPOS - A request to rescind the Local Historic Landmark Designation (LD 94-02) and redesignate as a Point of Interest for four single family residences located at 9618, 9626, 963, arid 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10 and 11. Related Files: Landmark Alteration Permit 96-02, Development review 93-15, and Landmark Designation 94-02. Chairman Barker indicated that the applicant had requested that items B and C be continued to January 14, 1998. He opened the public hearing. There was no testimony. There were no objections from the Commission; therefore, Chairman Barker continued Items B and C to January 14, 1998. D. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 97-01 - RANCHO CUCAMONGA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY - A request for a phased demolition of approximately 35,268 to 44,298 square feet of building area of the Ellena/Regina Winery, previously designated as a local historic landmark (Landmark Designation 88-04), located on the south side of Base Line Road approximately 600 feet west of the intersection of Victoria Park Lane at 12467 Base Line Road - APN: 227-161-24. Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker commented that the Redevelopment Agency was asking for wide latitude which would allow demolition on a number of the buildings at the winery site. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. HPC Minutes -2- December 10, 1997 Peter Pitassi, 8439 White Oak Avenue, #105. Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was representing Filippi Winery, the building tenants. He said the potential buildings for demolition do not include the area leased by Filippi Winery and indicated the winery does not object to the demolition. He supported staffs recommendation. He suggested the condition for HABS/HAER be more focused and take into consideration what has already been accumulated by staff and others during the last few years. Linda Daniels, Redevelopment Agency Manager, stated the proposal will continue to allow the tenant to operate in the facility. She said the Redevelopment Agency Board feels it is right to continue to operate the building and to use the facility as a winery. She remarked that phased demolition will provide.an opportunity for the tenant to grow and expand. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if Building 102 will remain. Ms. Daniels confirmed that it will. Commissioner Tolstoy asked about Structures 106 and 107. Ms. Daniels stated they are slated for demolition. She said truss work has been cut and the roof is resting on the concrete tanks and it is not a structurally safe condition. Commissioner Tolstoy recalled that it had originally been thought those two areas would be safe. Ms. Daniels confirmed that was correct but more recent investigation determined it is an unsafe structure. Commissioner Tolstoy said it was his understanding that cement tanks are supporting the roof in Building 106. Ms. Daniels confirmed that was correct. Commissioner Tolstoy asked where redwood tanks are located. Ms. Daniels replied there are redwood tanks in Structures 107 through 110. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the tanks will be destroyed. Ms. Daniels responded that the resolution calls for a preservation plan for the tanks and the Agency desires to work with the tenant to have tanks incorporated into their business as part of public art in the facility. She said it is the intent to preserve as many tanks as practical and possible. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if that would include the building in which they are contained. Ms. Daniels replied it would not necessarily and the tanks could be relocated to remaining portions of the building or through exterior architectural treatment, such as a shed structure. She said there is unreinforced masonry in 108 and structural defects in the shed over 111. She indicated the loading dock in Structure 111 is to remain, only the shed portion would be removed. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if it would be an uncovered dock. Ms. Daniels replied that was correct. She said there are roof structural conditions in 106 through 111 with the most significant structural problems in 106 and 108. She said Structures 106 through 106 are all one mass and would all go if one goes. HPC Minutes -3- December 10, 1997 Commissioner Tolstoy commented that he realized economics drives the demolition, but said he hoped some of the tanks will be preserved because they are representative of all the wineries in the area and should be saved so that future generations can see how wine was made. Ms. Daniels stated the Redevelopment Board agrees. She said the preservation plan is not completed but initial discussions are to work with the tenant on preserving things on the site or to dismantle and store as many tanks as are practical so that they could be reassembled and placed as part of public art in Central Park or other parks as they develop. She said they also may reuse the wood as part of public facilities. Commissioner Tolstoy hoped they.could be preserved as tanks. Ms. Daniels said that was also the desire of the Agency. Chairman Barker commented there is no guarantee. Ms. Daniels confirmed that was correct. She said there have been some preliminary discussions with the Filippes and there is a desire to store some of the tanks on the property. She commented that those discussions cannot be concluded at this time. Commissioner Macias asked how the Artifact Retention Plan will be implemented and who would determine what artifacts will be deemed significant to warrant preservation. Ms. Daniels replied they would be using the report that had been reviewed by the Commission on November 12 as the basis of the plan to determine how the artifacts could be stored on-site or stored for use in other facilities. She said the County Museum may be used for storage if the City cannot store on site. Chairman Barker observed that the consultant had not talked about preservation, but rather had ' talked about a plan leaving free the possibility that some of the materials will be sold. Ms. Daniels indicated that it would be fair to say that the items which are modern in nature and have no historic value could be declared surplus. She said the tanks have been identified as something the Agency wants to make the best effort possible to preserve on site or by storing the wood for possible reassembly. She commented she could not give specifics because the plan has not been presented to the Redevelopment Agency Board. She explained they have to indicate the disposition of all items listed in the report. Commissioner Macias asked the relationship between the Mitigated Negative Declaration and the implementation of the disposition of the artifacts that were cataloged in the report reviewed by the Commission on November 12. He asked how the Commission could do a mitigated negative declaration, stated the only way the Commission could issue a mitigated negative declaration would be if the impacts have been reduced to a level of insignificance. He asked if the plan will be completed and the disposition of relevant artifacts be incorporated into a plan as part of the mitigation. Mr. Buller replied that Condition 3 calls for approval of the Artifacts Retention Plan prior to demolition. Commissioner Macias asked if a definitive plan will identify the disposition of those artifacts that are deemed significant; i.e., on display, in storage, part of public art, etc. Ms. Daniels stated it could include any of those options, but stated it could also include that a certain number of artifacts are duplicates of what the City already has and can be sold as surplus. HPC Minutes -4- December 10, 1997 Commissioner Macias asked if that meant that not all of the significant artifacts will be saved. Ms. Daniels replied it may not be possible to save all of them. Commissioner Macias asked if it would be fair to say they would not be as significant because they are duplicates. Ms. Daniels stated that was correct and the City would keep the best examples or those best preserved in their current state. Commissioner Macias stated his point was to confirm that there would be a definitive plan and identification of the disposition of those artifacts deemed significant and justification for not retaining significant artifacts in the instance of duplication. Ms. Daniels confirmed that would be part of the plan. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that stored artifacts do the City no good. Ms. Daniels concurred. She said there may not immediately be a proper location to display the tanks outside so storage may be the best option. Commissioner Tolstoy hoped that there would be a plan for future display of any stored artifacts. Ms. Daniels confirmed that would be the case. She echoed Mr. Pitassi's comments regarding documentation. She said there have been a number of structural documents prepared throughout ownership by the Agency that could provide understanding of the building. She reported photographs and videos are planned to be done to identify what the building was and there are ' photographs dating back many years. She stated she would like to work with the Planning Division regarding the HABS/HARE requirement. Chairman Barker stated the application appears to be a carte blanche request on the part of the Redevelopment Agency to tear down most of the buildings, including all of the tank buildings, the distillery, and the boiler house and yet the Commission does not know the overall design. He felt it is a business decision and he was concerned about giving up the responsibility of the Historical Commission yet he was uncomfortable about talking to another part of the City which operates under the direction of the City Council. He felt there should be a workshop to discuss the matter. He noted this is one of the only two large-scale wineries remaining in the City and he noted it is functional. He feared demolition will remove the winery appearance. He felt a winery is not a winery without tanks. He was uncomfortable because he did not know what is planned. Commissioner McNiel stated it was his understanding that the City does not have any plans for what will be going in after the buildings are demolished. Ms. Daniels replied that architectural plans have not yet been prepared. Commissioner McNiel asked if there are conceptual ideas of what will replace the buildings. Ms. Daniels responded the elevations and materials will be complimentary and sympathetic to maintain the winery appearance. She said the tenant may expand outdoor business operations which might expand the winery operation in those areas but noted the negotiations have not been concluded. Commissioner McNiel stated the new development may be recognizable, but felt it will have lost its soul. He stated that the City has allowed some things to get away because of economics. He noted that the winery buildings had been deemed to be not significant, but he noted some of the buildings HPC Minutes -5- December 10, 1997 go back to 1916. He said he had a hard time supporting the request without knowing what is planned. He observed that once the buildings are demolished, there is no turning back. Commissioner Bethel felt that once the buildings are demolished, it is no longer a winery. He felt that mere duplication, should not lead to disposition of an artifact. Commissioner Tolstoy thought the Commission was being asked to act because some of the buildings are unsafe and the Redevelopment Agency did not feel it is economically feasible to strengthen the facilities to save them. He asked if the matter was also before the Commission because the Redevelopment Agency is trying to sell part of the property. Ms. Daniels responded she was not able to discuss that at this time. Kathy Stevens, 7425 Onyx Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she has been a resident of the area for 25 years. She said the history of Rancho Cucamonga has been destroyed for the sake of the dollar. She stated she has watched wineries die, Opeche, Brookside, Regina, etc. She said that in Maryland they had gone to lunch in a building that was built in 1764 and felt she was walking in the footsteps of our forefathers. She did not want the winery turned into a shopping center. She felt that once the buildings are gone, they cannot be replaced. She wished to see the winery resurrected. John Campbell, 6620 Santolina Place thanked the Commission and staff for what has been done to make the City what it is. He hoped every effort will be made to preserve history. He felt the City should support the winery and thought having the equipment in place makes up the historical value. He hoped the items will be preserved in a functional state because the artifacts don't have much use by themselves. He hoped the Commission would review all options. He thought the City should invest Redevelopment Agency funds to preserve instead of redeveloping because he felt a lot of people moved to Rancho Cucamonga for its historical significance. ' Gino Filippi, Vice President of J. Filippi Winery, 12467 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they are the tenants. He agreed with staffs assessment and also agreed with some of the things said by the public and the Historic Preservation Commission. He indicated that some things are practical and said that if the City wishes to save the entire site, it must come up with plenty of money. Ile said they are trying to purchase part of the site, but it is difficult. He said they are planning to institute a wine tour, but they are about two years behind on their plans. Mr. Campbell stated he had heard there is a conflict of interest between the developer and a City Council member. He said that if that were true, he hoped a decision would not be made until after the conflict is resolved. He asked that the City keep the best interest of the site in mind. Judge Maxine Thomas, 849 South Highland Avenue, Los Angeles, stated she is a grape grower and the growers need the winery back in operation. She said they need a facility to crush grapes. She asked that the City do whatever is necessary to assist the winery to make the facility operable. Nick Karavidas, J. Filippi Winery, 12467 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he is a grape grower and wine maker. He said very few people left in the area grow grapes. He indicated that if they could save the entire winery, they would. He imagined there are very few redwood tanks left. He did not support trying to save the buildings in spite of the business and supported tearing down parts of the building if it would allow continued operation of the winery. He said the City needs to act quickly before operations are lost. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner McNiel observed that it was unspecified in the staff report as to when Phase Two demolition would occur. He asked when Phase One would occur. HPC Minutes -6- December 10, 1997 Ms. Daniels replied that there is currently no time frame but they desire to move as quickly as possible with Phase One. She said the Artifacts Plan is a critical component. Commissioner McNiel understood there is a vast difference in economics. He feared that if the City moved forward with demolition, there may be disappointment in 10 years that it had made the wrong move. He observed that much of the building was saved at Thomas Winery but felt it had suffered. He asked if the buildings are salvageable. Ms. Daniels responded that everything is salvageable at a cost. She said the Agency's desire is to preserve the historical significance and the winery itself. She felt there are options in the future to rebuild what is being demolished. Commissioner McNiel noted there seemed to be a sense of urgency but the Commission does not know what is going to be demolished and what will be developed in its place. Commissioner Macias observed that the Commission was being asked to issue a mitigated negative declaration and approve the application for alteration of the site. He asked what the next step would be if the Commission approved. Ms. Daniels stated that preparation of the Artifacts Plan would begin and Redevelopment staff would work with Planning on satisfying the HABS/HAER requirement. Commissioner Macias asked how long before demolition would begin. Ms. Daniels estimated three to six months: Commissioner Macias questioned how the Commission could issue a mitigated negative declaration ' without seeing the plan. Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney, stated the negative declaration has identified preparation of the plan as a mitigation. He said it is up to the City Council to determine the validity of the plan. Commissioner Macias commented that the demolition could not proceed if the Council does not approve the plan. He asked how the Commission could state that there are no significant impacts. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested the Historic Preservation Commission consider asking for the plan before acting on the request. Commissioner Macias indicated that was where he was heading. He asked if the Redevelopment Agency would lose anything if the Commission asks to see the plan before acting. Ms. Daniels felt the plan will take longer than a month or two to complete. She said the tenant is basically stopped from pursuing their operation without approval. Chairman Barker observed that negotiations are taking place between the Redevelopment Agency and certain other people that cannot be discussed with the Commission. He noted that if a private developer had made the same request, it would not get the same courtesy as being shown to the Redevelopment Agency. He said he was concerned that the Commission is dealing with another arm of the City. He asked if the City Council could take action without the Historic Preservation Commission's having taken action. ' Mr. Buller stated the Commission could defer the matter to the Council. Chairman Barker said he did not want to cop out on their responsibility. He felt the Commission was in a frustrating position. HPC Minutes -7- December 10, 1997 Commissioner McNiel stated he did not want to injure the historic value of the structure or the business located there. He felt the Commission was being asked to injure one or the other. Chairman Barker felt there must be an action which could be taken to allow the tenant to obtain what they need and allow the Commission to do its job to preserve. Commissioner Macias asked if there would be some way to assure that the Commission plays a role in the preservation plan. He asked if they could require that the plan come back before the Commission. Mr. Buller responded the Commission could require the plan to be reviewed by the Commission before going to City Council. Chairman Barker observed that the Council has the final say. He asked if that would allow the negotiations to go forward. Mr. Buller commented that a lot of issues are technical in nature including building code issues. He said staff had looked at all aspects and the first preference is to preserve if economically possible. Chairman Barker commented that the Commission was being asked to make a decision based on faith. He did not feel the Commission had the information necessary to make an informed decision. Ms. Daniels suggested the Commission could approve the request but request that the Artifacts Retention Plan be returned to the Commission before going to City Council. Commissioner Bethel asked if the Commission could table the entire matter until after the Redevelopment Agency presents plans for the buildings and the Artifacts Retention Plan for the Commission to review. 1 Mr. Buller responded that the Commission had that option. Commissioner McNiel did not want to approve the demolition without seeing the mitigation plan because he feared if the demolition were approved by the Commission but the Commission did not like the mitigation plan, the Redevelopment Agency would have the option of going ahead and demolishing. Chairman Barker said the Redevelopment Agency could not legally give information to the Commission and the Commission was therefore not privy to that information. He felt the Council, acting as the Redevelopment Agency, could take some sort of an intermediate action necessary to complete negotiations and later share information with the Commission so that the Commission could be involved in the overall historical protection or design of the project. Commissioner McNiel observed that Chairman Barker had not said the Commission wants to pass its function on to the Council. Chairman Barker confirmed that was correct. Mr. Buller suggested the Commission could alert the City Council by minute action that it did not feel it had adequate information to make an educated decision on the Landmark Alteration Permit. Chairman Barker felt the Commission was saying that it does not want the buildings torn down and would like to see them saved. He acknowledged that certain things may have to be done but he felt the Commission could not issue the mitigated negative declaration and approve the application without more information. HPC Minutes -8- December 10, 1997 Commissioner Bethel reiterated that the Commission was asking for a plan that gives disposition of the buildings as well as the artifacts. ' Chairman Barker agreed that was what the Commission needs. Commissioner McNiel suggested the matter be continued to allow staff to come up with a resolution to the Commission's dilemma and said he was not willing to approve any demolition at this time. Ms. Daniels stated they could take no action and forward the matter to the City Council, deny the application, or continue the matter. Commissioner Tolstoy did not want the Commission to deny the application and wanted to do something that would allow the negotiations to proceed. He stated that Redevelopment Agency staff would be making a plan in concert with the Building Official. He felt the Commission should see the plan when it is completed. Commissioner Macias asked what the Redevelopment Agency would be losing if no action was taken before presenting the plan to the Commission. Ms. Daniels said she would prefer to have the tenant answer that question. Chairman Barker reopened the public hearing. Mr. Pitassi observed the process has been going on for quite some time and it has been frustrating for everyone with many options having been reviewed. He stated a structural engineer surveyed the property on two separate occasions and there are serious problems. He felt staff has been trying to keep the process moving forward to allow the tenant to have the legal option to look at the alternatives. He observed that the winery still does not have occupancy on portions of the lease space. Mr. Filippi suggested showing the areas they currently occupy. Mr. Pitassi indicated they occupy 101 and their lease defines spaces 104 and 105 as areas to be used for production including bottling, storage, shipping, etc. He stated that tanks are located in 106 through 110 and there are significant structural problems in those areas. He said the other structures are basically lean-to's with galvanized corrugated tin roofing. He stated what was inside is important but they are not part of the lease. Mr. Filippi stated they had discussed one option of utilizing the concrete tanks in 106 in production and tours and improving or reconstructing 107 for a living museum. He said the winery does not have financial resources to address that reconstruction at this time and neither does the Redevelopment Agency. He felt all other buildings could be demolished. Chairman Barker asked if the winery is currently using 101, 102, 104, and 105. Mr. Pitassi said 102 is not part of the lease. He indicated occupancy of Buildings 104 and 105 are major concerns. Chairman Barker said he would like to be able to say to the City Council that it has the ability to let the winery occupy Buildings 104 and 105. He asked if the Commission could address Buildings 104 and 105 without giving up anything else. ' Mr. Buller suggested that the matter be tabled and perhaps a joint meeting could be set up with the City Council. HPC Minutes -9- December 10, 1997 Chairman Barker felt the matter should have been addressed as a workshop item. Ms. Daniels said the Redevelopment Agency would prefer a continuance rather than a denial. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Bethel, to continue Landmark Alteration Permit 97-01 to ' an unspecified date. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried Commissioner McNiel hoped that information is available to the Commission as to what the tenant and the Redevelopment Agency want when the matter is next heard by the Commission. Ms. Daniels said the Redevelopment Agency Board would discuss the matter in an executive session on December 17. Chairman Barker indicated the Commission would be available for a workshop prior to its next meeting on January 14, 1998. DIRECTOR'S REPORTS E. ALTA LOMA PACKING HOUSE DEMOLITION - Consideration of remedial actions for the proposed demolition of Alta Loma Heights Citrus Association Packing House (a designated Point of Historic Interest), located at 7125 Amethyst Avenue - APN: 202-151-12. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. ' Commissioner Bethel noted the City had purchased the property in 1991 and asked what the City had done to avoid deterioration of the buildings. Linda Daniels, Redevelopment Agency Manager, indicated the buildings were already in a state of decline when the Agency acquired the property. She said they have repaired the roof and the roofing contractors have informed the City they will no longer repair the roof because of the danger. Commissioner"Bethel asked how much had been spent. Ms. Daniels said she did not have a cumulative total but well over $50,000 has been spent on a security system and security patrols. Commissioner Tolstoy said he has toured the buildings twice. He said Buildings C and D were in poor condition when they were acquired. He indicated he has had experience with historical buildings and he felt the deterioration is beyond repair. He also thought it is almost impossible to stop vandalism on this site. He felt the two buildings are a threat to public safety and should be demolished. Commissioner McNiel stated that one of the functions of the Redevelopment Agency is to redevelop. He felt the function of the Historic Preservation Commission is to save certain things from destruction. He felt there is a rush to demolish. He thought the packing house had been an important part of the City's history. Commissioner Tolstoy thought the facade of the buildings is not representative of the old packing houses. He felt the rear of the building probably at one time looked like a packing house. He HPC Minutes -10- December 10, 1997 thought the buildings should be torn down and hoped low cost or senior housing could be constructed in its place. He did not think the buildings are adaptive to anything and felt they were not representative of the packing houses that were in the City. Commissioner Macias felt the request was straightforward He thought there was a loss of integrity with respect to the structure and the fabric. He supported Measures A, B, and C in the staff report. Commissioner Bethel stated he respected Commissioner Tolstoy's evaluation of the packing house but asked if Commissioner Tolstoy would have recommended demolition in 1991. He was concerned because the City has controlled the site since 1991. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the amount of money needed to save the buildings is excessive. Commissioner McNiel agreed with Commissioner Bethel that efforts should have been made to save the buildings. He was concerned that other historic structures are also being allowed to deteriorate. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed that good historic buildings are deteriorating. He said it is impossible to fight vandalism and deterioration unless there is money available to do so. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel, to recommend that the Redevelopment Agency provide actions identified in Measures A, B, and C under Analysis in the staff report. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS F. ELECTION OF OFFICERS Chairman Barker suggested tabling the matter. The Commission consented to tabling the matter. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Bethel, to adjourn. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 9:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes 11- December 10, 1997 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 26, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for November 26, 1997, was canceled for lack of quorum.. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 12, 1997 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, William Bethel, Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller; City Planner, Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Brent Le Count, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ' ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. a a r a « APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Bethel, carried 4-0-0-1 (McNiel abstain), to approve the minutes of October 22, 1997. « « « « « PUBLIC HEARINGS A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND MODIFICATION TO 'LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 96-02 - CAMPOS - A request to demolish four single family residences located at - 9618, 9626, 963, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard, and reconstruct with new replica structures - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10, and 11. Staff has prepared a Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. Related File: Development Review 93-15. B. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 97-01 - CAMPOS - A request to rescind the Local Historic Landmark Designation (LD 94-02) and redesignate as a Point of Interest for four single family residences located at 9618, 9626, 963, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10 and 11. Related Files: Landmark Alteration Permit 96-02, Development review 93-15, and Landmark Designation 94-02. This action will be forwarded to the City Council for final action and the date of the Public Hearing before City Council will be separately noticed. Chairman Barker observed that the applicant had requested a continuance to December 10, 1997. He opened the public hearing. There were no public comments. It was the consensus of the Commission that Items A and B be continued to December 10, 1997. C. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 97-02 - C.O.R. PROPERTIES -A request to rescind the Local Historic Landmark Designation (LD 92-02) and redesignate.as a Point of Interest for the Pearson Filling Station and Garage, located at the northeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Etiwanda Avenue, 12912 Foothill Boulevard, APN: 1100-061-02. Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Barry Vantiger, C.O.R. Properties, 129 North Euclid Avenue, Ontario, stated the porte-cochere was demolished because of the widening of Foothill Boulevard. He showed a layout of the current location and orientation of the building. He observed that the Etiwanda Historical Society suggested refurbishing the building and utilizing it on site and stated his company had undertaken an engineering study to determine what would be necessary to do so. He said the requirements today . are much more stringent from when the building was first constructed. He reported the engineering study indicated the walls are not structurally sound enough to support the roof and the roof is not adequate for seismic purposes. He commented it would cost between $86 thousand to $116 thousand to make the building habitable.. He noted the Etiwanda Historical Society suggested relocation of the building and reproduction. of the part that was demolished and noted that the building would have to be moved back to 50 feet from the property line. He said the'cost to relocate the building on-site would be approximately $63,500. He commented that the off-site and on-site ' development costs for the currently withdrawn ARCO application were approximately$261,000. He observed that if the building were brought up to habitable condition and left in its current location, the development cost would equal approximately$151 per square foot. He said that adding the land cost would bring the cost up to over $1 million for a 2,400 square foot building, which is $451 per square foot. He acknowledged that the building is a building of interest, but he did not feel it should be an historic landmark. He felt that if an Environmental Impact Report were required, it would indicate that the building could not be economically reused. He requested that the property be redesignated as a Point of Historic Interest. Commissioner Bethel asked how quickly the building would be demolished if approval were granted. Mr. Vantiger stated they have no immediate plans to demolish the building and there is currently a tenant using the building for storage. He said he would be happy to donate the building to be moved and would be willing to contribute funds toward the relocation. Commissioner Bethel asked if the applicant had been unaware of the ramifications of landmark designation when the property was,designated. Mr. Vantiger replied that he had not requested landmark designation but it was forced on him when the development of Foothill Marketplace triggered widening of the intersection. Commissioner Bethel asked if the high cost for upgrading the building is a result of not maintaining the building. Mr. Vantiger replied it is because of the original construction. He commented that when.the City Building Official inspected the property in 1992, the structure was determined to be sub-standard for today's codes. He said his engineers recommended that he build an entirely new building inside the HPC Minutes -2- November 12, 1997 building to support an entirely new roof and use the existing walls as a facade. He thought the building could be rebuilt with the same look but modern materials for about one quarter of the cost to save the current building. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if Foothill Boulevard improvements are completed at the intersection. Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, replied that the signals Iwere placed at their ultimate location but parkway improvements are still needed. 'Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the public right of way will extend into the building. Mr. James replied that it will not. Mr. Vantiger noted the building may have to be moved anyway because it is located under a 66-Kv power line. Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated a letter had been received from the Etiwanda Historical Society indicating its Board of Directors unanimously felt that rescinding a landmark status would be a dangerous precedent. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it was a shame that the porte-cochere had to be demolished in order to widen Foothill Boulevard. He thought the building no longer retains its historic flavor and he felt it would place too much of a burden on the property owner to save the building. He thought the building would have been worth saving if it were in its original condition but does not have much historic value as it now stands. ' Commissioner McNiel stated he understood why Commissioner Tolstoy felt that way. However, he commented there are few historic buildings remaining in the City. He felt it is unfortunate that it would be so expensive to bring the building up to code but he felt those numbers could be manipulated. He thought it is important to retain a link to the past. He thought the building could be moved and the porte-cochere could be reproduced. Commissioner Bethel felt the link to the past was broken with the removal of the porte-cochere and reproducing one would not reestablish the link. Commissioner Macias stated the dilemma is the historic significance of the building. He felt the significance lies principally with the relationship to Klusman. He did not think there is any architectural significance and he did not think there is enough physical integrity left. He believed there are other buildings from Klusman within the City. He agreed the numbers could be manipulated but he felt the building poses an economic hardship on the property and he agreed it would be difficult to market the property. He stated he would like to see that corner conform to the development which has occurred across the street. He felt the area is currently an eyesore and he felt approval of the applicant's request would lead to faster development. Chairman Barker concurred that the building was destroyed when the canopy was removed. He said, there have been similar problems in the past where attempts were made to save parts; i.e. northwest corner of Haven Avenue and Foothill Boulevard in order to retain a flavor without duplicating structures. He noted this was a gas station of a particular type on Route 66. He said currently the building has been chopped up with only a box remaining which is now too expensive to move or bring up to code. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the property has historic significance and he indicated he wanted to.see something done for the loss of the structure and what it stood for. He thought the structure was HPC Minutes -3- November 12, 1997 unique to Route 66. He mentioned consideration of requiring as little as a plaque to as much as reproducing the building with current building materials. Chairman Barker asked if Commissioner Tolstoy felt staff should return with a series of options. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed that would be important. He said he did not want to send a message to the community that the Commission is not interested in historic preservation. He felt that in this instance, the removal of the canopy removed the flavor. Chairman Barker suggested that staff return with various options for consideration by the Commission. Commissioner McNiel felt the City is missing an opportunity and the opportunities are growing scarcer. He said the City has lost a number of historical sites and some have been recovered even though they were in worse condition that this; i.e., the Chaffey Garcia House. Chairman Barker pointed out that the Chaffey Garcia House was moved. Commissioner Tolstoy pointed out that the Chaffey Garcia House was not poured-in place concrete. Commissioner McNiel acknowledged that was true but said he still felt an opportunity is being lost. He thought ARCO or a similar user will surface with redesignation and he felt that will not improve the corner. Commissioner Bethel felt the building was lost when the porte-cochere was removed and there are now efforts to save something that no longer exists. He agreed there should be some mitigation and said he leans more toward a plaque. He said he would support reconstruction of the building, but it would not be the old building. , Commissioner Macias supported the notion of requiring something for approving the application. He thought the building is not significant and the application should be approved. He felt that approval will ultimately lead to demolition of the building. He suggested photo documentation and a report to be submitted to the local preservationists and library, etc. He thought that would be a better contribution to the community rather than just a plaque. Chairman Barker reopened the public hearing. Mr. Vantiger agreed with the Commission's comments that the building is of historical interest,in the community. He stated HABS/HAERs were drawn of the canopy when it was removed. He suggested the HABS/HAER be completed for the building. He said it was his understanding that if the application to reduce the property to a Point of Historic Interest were approved, an application for demolition would trigger any need for HABS/HAERs, but said he was willing to address those needs at this time. Mr. Buller said he understood the majority of the Commission feels reconsideration of the designation is appropriate. He observed that recommendation would need to go to City Council for final approval. He recommended that staff prepare a resolution supporting designation as a Point of Interest along with possible remediations for any future demolition of the building to be considered at the time a new project is submitted. He suggested the matter be continued to December 10, 1997. Motion: Moved by Bethel, seconded by Tolstoy, to direct staff to prepare a resolution supporting Point of Interest designation with possible remediations for Commission consideration on December 10, 1997. Motion carried by the following vote: HPC Minutes -4- November 12, 1997 AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, TOLSTOY NOES: MCNIEL ABSENT: NONE carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS D. REVIEW OF THE HISTORICAL ASSESSMENT-AND ARTIFACTS INVENTORY OF THE ELLENA BROTHERS WINERY/REGINA GRAPE PRODUCTS CO. - Regina Winery located at 12467 Base Line Road. Brad Buller, City Planner, remarked that the item was on the agenda as a matter of information and to provide the Commission an opportunity to forward any thoughts or comments they had on the study. He observed that the consultant who prepared the study was present as well as the tenants. He commented that the City Council would be considering the possibility of some demolition requests on the property. Robert Chattel, President, Chattel Construction Corporation, 13310 Valleyheart Drive South, Sherman Oaks, stated they were the consultants who.prepared the study. Commissioner Tolstoy asked the condition of the artifacts. Mr. Chattel responded that the artifacts.themselves, including the redwood storage tanks and other equipment, are substantially intact and have some historic.significance in and of themselves. He said the buildings lack integrity according to application of National Register criteria. He observed 1 the complex has been altered several times over the years and the integrity of the older buildings has been lost with later additions. He said the artifacts could not be considered historic buildings because the buildings and the artifacts work as one. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the City needs to try to preserve what a winery looked like for future generations; i.e., what kind of machinery was used. He noted that the Biane winery had done some interesting preservation. He asked how that could be done. Mr. Chattel felt groups of redwood storage tanks could be retained in place with a small shed built over them to protect them. He indicted the tanks could not be left in the open air because they would rapidly deteriorate. He thought one of the cellars might be able to remain in place either in the short term or the long term. He thought it would be shortsighted to remove all of the tanks without considering trying to retain some of them in place. He felt the grouping of tanks is significant ratherthan any one tank in particular. He thought there are buildings and/or equipment.on the site that could remain in any future development of the property. He stated the distillery has a distinctive architectural character and the scale house and scale could all probably be incorporated into future development. He thought new development could use the same sort of materials and utilitarian architectural character of the site. Commissioner Tolstoy thought the location would be a good place to preserve some of the artifacts because part of the building has been maintained as a winery. He felt that would bring people to the area and increase the winery sales. He felt it important for young people to be able to glimpse the history of the area. ' Mr. Chattel recommended that the buildings and artifacts be°retained as long as possible until there is a long-term development plan for the site. He said they had determined that the property is not eligible for designation under the National Registry because its most important period of significance falls into a period that is less than 50 years of age. .He said they believe the winery was HPC Minutes -5- November 12, 1997 undistinguished in the period before 1949 when there were approximately 30 wineries in the Cucamonga Valley. He explained that wine vinegar was produced and promoted and public tours and dining were offered after that period, and those actions made the site significance. He said because the important period of significance is less than 50 years old (from 1949 to 1971), it does ' not meet the criteria of exceptional importance. He stated they determined the property falls into a category of"may become National Register when it attains 50 years of age." Commissioner McNiel asked how many of the 30 wineries remain. Mr. Chattel responded there are four that remain fairly intact; Guasti plus three in Rancho Cucamonga--Cucamonga Pioneer on Haven Avenue, Padre Biane on Eighth Street, and this one. Commissioner McNiel asked if the fact that there are only three remaining in Rancho Cucamonga doesn't make it significant. Mr. Chattel replied that it would take on more significance if it were the only remaining winery. He said the other two in the City have not been studied in detail but appear to be National Register eligible from a windshield survey. Gino Filippi, Joseph Filippi Winery, 12467 Base Line Road, Rancho Cucamonga, introduced Nick Karavitis, a winemaker. He presented a letter stating that the winery had made tenant improvements to the site and buildings and those improvements were not defined in the report. He stated they plan to include guided tours and museum displays when occupancy is granted. He said their operation produces 60,000 cases per year and they are trying to move it to Rancho Cucamonga. He stated the winery is the only large producing winery left in San Bernardino County and Rancho Cucamonga. He noted that Filo Biane has a small winery on Wilson which produces 300 cases a year. There were no further public comments. , Chairman Barker expressed concern that Mr. Chattel had indicated that the materials and artifacts should be retained until a development plan is in place. Chairman Barker said he would hate to see the artifacts stripped and sold out of town. He felt that this is the last chance the City has to keep intact as a living museum what was a producing winery and would still be a producing winery. He felt as much as possible should be preserved, including tanks and cellars. He thought a winery would not be a winery without the tanks, cellar, smell, etc. He strongly recommended that the City Council be as supportive as possible. He was concerned that the City might focus more on a business deal rather than recognizing the need to save a little bit of the community's past from total destruction in order to sell or develop the property around it. Commissioner Bethel asked if those comments could be shown as coming from the entire Planning Commission. It was the consensus of the Commission that the comments represented the feelings of the entire Commission. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS ' There was no additional Commission business. HPC Minutes -6- November 12, 1997 a ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Bethel, to adjourn. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 8:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bulle Secretary HPC Minutes -7- November 12, 1997 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 22, 1997 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, William Bethel, Rich Macias, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Larry McNiel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Michael Estrada, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ' ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. f f R 1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Bethel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 (McNiel absent), to approve the minutes of July 23, 1997. CONSENT CALENDAR A. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 97-02 -DEBORAH & ANDREW BURGER - A request to implement the use of the Mills Act to reduce property tax on the George Cherbak House (built approximately 1929) a Historic Landmark, located at 9953 Hillside Road - APN: 1074-211-31. Related file: Landmark Designation 97-02. The item was pulled to be acted upon in conjunction with Item B. PUBLIC HEARINGS B. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 97-02 -DEBORAH & ANDREW BURGER - An application to designate the George Cherbak House (built approximately 1929) a Historic Landmark, located at 9953 Hillside Road -APN: 1074-211-31. Related file: Mills Act Agreement 97-02. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Deborah Burger, 9953 Hillside Road, Rancho Cucamonga, requested approval of the project. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. ' Commissioner Tolstoy complimented the applicant on the written justification of cultural significance and expressed appreciation for the work the applicant has done to the residence. He regretted that the City had not been able to obtain an oral history from George Cherbak. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Macias, to adopt the resolution recommending Landmark Designation 97-02 and recommend approval of Mills Act Agreement 97-02. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: MCNIEL - carried Chairman Barker commented the application was exactly the type of situation the Mills Act was designed to cover. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Macias, carried 4-0-1 (McNiel absent), to adjourn. 7:11 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -2- October 22, 1997 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 8, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for October 8, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Br4eo'g r Se CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 24, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for September 24, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, A��� Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 10, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for September 10, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA t HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 27, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for August 27, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, A��r'�- Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 13, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for August 13, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 23, 1997 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL _ COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, William Bethel, Rich Macias, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Larry McNiel, STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Brent Le Count, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS ' There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved byTolstoy, seconded by Macias, carried 3-0-1-1, ( McNiel absent, Bethel abstain) to approve the minutes of May 28, 1997. CONSENT CALENDAR A. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 97-01 - SCOTT& MICHELLE LUKESH - A request to implement the use of the Mills Act to reduce property tax on the Nesbit-McCorkle House (built in approximately 1924) a Historic Landmark, located at 7608 Hellman Avenue - APN: 208-073-43. Related file: Landmark Designation 97-01. Chairman Barker pulled the item so that it could be acted upon in conjunction with Item B. PUBLIC HEARINGS B. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 97-01 - SCOTT & MICHELLE LUKESH - An application to designate the Nesbit-McCorkle House (built in approximately 1924) a Historic Landmark, located at 7608 Hellman Avenue -APN: 208-073-43. Related file: Mills Act Agreement 97-01. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker asked the estimated tax savings in relation to the Mills Act contract. Mr. Henderson replied that it was estimated the tax savings to the applicant would be approximately $1,090.00 per year resulting in a loss to the City of approximately $24.50. Chairman Barker asked staff to give a brief overview of the intent of the Mills Act. Mr. Henderson responded that historic houses typically require more maintenance than other homes. He observed that the legislature felt that historic buildings could be considered a community asset and provided for the property owners to use the tax savings for the benefit of the community. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Scott Lukash;7608 Hellman Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they were excited about owning the house. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Bethel, to adopt the resolution recommending approval of Landmark Designation 97-01 and adopt the consent calendar recommending approval of Mills Act Agreement 97-01. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: MCNIEL - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by.Tolstoy, seconded by Bethel, carried 4-0-1 (McNiel absent) to adjourn. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:09 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bullet Secretary HPC Minutes -2- July 23, 1997 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 9, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for July 9, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 25, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 25, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 11, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 11, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting May 28, 1997 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 9:49 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Rich Macias, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: William Bethel, Larry McNiel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Boyd Hill, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Macias, carried 3-0-2 (Bethel, McNiel absent), to approve the minutes of December 11, 1996. NEW BUSINESS A. STATUS OF ISLE HOUSE - 6490 Etiwanda Avenue - APN: 225-171-14 and 15. Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated that the Isle House will need to be relocated or demolished to make way for the freeway. He said staff had prepared a report on the Isle House for presentation to the City Council. He stated that staff will encourage the Etiwanda Historical Society to take a strong role in trying to identify the right and proper site for relocation of the house. Commissioner Tolstoy noted that the house is a potential local landmark. He asked if the current owner has indicated to the City what he would like to do. Mr. Buller responded that SANBAG will purchase the property and the building and said he did not believe the current owner has any interest in keeping the building. ' Chairman Barker asked if anyone had discussed where and how to move the building. Mr. Buller replied that several options have been considered, but money is a big obstacle. Chairman Barker asked if there had been any thought to relocating it on Etiwanda. Mr. Buller thought the Etiwanda Historical Society believes that would be the proper location, near the railroad tracks. Chairman Barker agreed. He felt there is a logical strip on Etiwanda where there are some older houses. ' Commissioner Tolstoy stated that although the house doesn't represent a typical grove house, it is a gem that should be saved. He felt the City should have banked some land for such a situation. He thought an area by the Chaffey Garcia House area would have been a good area. Mr. Buller observed that the previous Historic Preservation Commission had identified land banking as one of their goals to provide a place to move structures when they become displaced. He commented that most preservations prefer leaving homes in their original settings, but at times that is not possible. Commissioner Tolstoy acknowledged that nothing had been done because of a lack of funds. Mr. Buller stated that the City owns some land, but it was purchased for other reasons. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the only logical City owned property would be at the winery. Mr. Buller noted that SANBAG owns the lumber yard on Etiwanda and it is excess right of way. He reported that SANBAG must develop a marketing plan for the house as one of the mitigations developed with the Environmental Impact Report for Route 30. Commissioner Tolstoy stated the house should not be torn down. Commissioner Macias felt the disposition would be subject to CEQA. ' Mr. Buller responded that has been done and Caltrans is willing to offer the house for $1, but a suitable location must be found. Commissioner Tolstoy stated that Historic preservation in Rancho Cucamonga is currently missing a strong, active, and dedicated community group that will address their issues. Chairman Barker said there were people with that passion, but passion steps on a lot of toes. Mr. Buller supported the concept that an active community group can accomplish a lot. He said Rancho Cucamonga has an ordinance and a Commission, but it does not have a strong, active, grass roots group. Chairman Barker felt that if there is money and staff to support it, then historic preservation is fully deserving of its own Commission. He noted that he had previously suggested an advisory board be created to provide input to the Historic Preservation Commission. He said that although staff had offered to provide office space and telephones, there have been no takers. He indicated he had tried talking to some people, but they were not interested, possibly because of former actions by the City. Commissioner Tolstoy said he had also talked with some people, but to no avail. PUBLIC COMMENTS ' There were no public comments at this time. HPC Minutes -2- May 28, 1997 if * ff COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Macias, to adjourn. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 10:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bulle Secretary HPC Minutes -3- May 28, 1997 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 14, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for May 14, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 23, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for April 23, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 9, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for April 9, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 26, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 26, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary i 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 12, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 12, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 26, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for February 26, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, y� Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 12, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for February 12, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 22, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for January 22, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, A o, ? , Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 8, 1997 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for January 8, 1997, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 25, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for December 25, 1996, was canceled because of holiday. Res ectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 11, 1996 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, William Bethel, Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Tricia Ashby, Secretary; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer ' ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Bethel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to approve the minutes of August 14, 1996. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION 96-03 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - An application to designate the Logia Felipe Angeles, Inc. Theater as a Local Landmark, located at 10071 Feron Boulevard, or alternatively as a Point of Historic Interest, and update the Historic Resource Inventory List appropriately-APN: 209-085-04. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker asked for clarification regarding the options before the Planning Commission; his understanding was that if it is designated a Landmark, it must come before the Commission prior ' to demolition, while a Historic Point of Interest designation would permit the owner to maintain or demolish without Commission approval. Mr. Henderson concurred. Commissioner Bethel asked for confirmation regarding the rehabilitation price of$1,200,000, while the cost of new construction would be about half that. Mr. Henderson stated the cost to make it usable again is between $260,000 and $300,000. He ' pointed out the difference is in bringing the building up to current day standards. He explained as private property, the owner has the option to make it a usable building again, rather than starting over. Commissioner Tolstoy questioned if there is enough parking available. Mr. Henderson stated there is room for approximately 20 parking spaces, which is far below code; however, a joint-use provision could be agreed upon with the City to utilize adjacent parking at Old Town Park. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if this solution will provide enough parking. Mr. Henderson felt it should with proper controls. He stated a Conditional Use Permit is required to reopen the building, thereby providing the Commission an opportunity to address issues such as operating hours, capacity, and types of events. He reported the YWCA has received a $7,000 Community Development Block Grant to provide an after school program in the neighborhood and needed space can be utilized if the subject building is available within 90 days. Commissioner McNiel asked if the reported price to rehabilitate the building will satisfy all seismic requirements. Mr Henderson responded there are no seismic requirements because it is not an unreinforced building. He reported staff's inspection of the building found no obvious structural defects. Commissioner Macias asked the difference between Landmark designation versus Historic Point of 1 Interest with regard to coming before the Commission in the future. Mr. Henderson responded in the case of a Landmark designation, any non in-kind exterior modifications or reconsideration of the designation would need to be addressed by the Commission, while the Historic Point of Interest designation would only be revisited if an upgrade to Landmark designation were requested. Chairman Barker asked if there is any financial,advantage to either of the designations. Mr. Henderson reported a slight advantage to the Landmark designation which allows the use of the Historic Building Code. Brad Buller, City Planner, clarified a point brought up by Commissioner Macias and stated whether the building is designated a Historic Landmark or Historic Point of Interest, the project will come back to the Commission under a Conditional Use Permit prior to occupancy. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Nacho Gracia, 10364 Humbolt Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, identified himself as the Executive Director of North Town Development Corporation (NHDC). He stated the Corporation does not want the property designated as a Historic Landmark because of financial reasons. He requested a 30-day extension on the matter so the board can discuss the matter at their meeting on January 17, 1997. He felt without financial help from the City, it would be better to take whatever action ' necessary to open the building while minimizing costs. HPC Minutes --2- December 11, 1996 Commissioner Macias asked if a designation of Historic Point of Interest designation would be preferred over a Historical Landmark designation. Mr. Gracia indicated a Historical Point of Interest would be fine because they would then have the option of tearing down the building or investing in rehabilitation. Chairman Barker asked if a Historic Landmark designation will be requested in 30 days. Mr. Gracia responded in the negative. Chairman Barker asked if a 30-day continuance will be requested if the Commission were willing to rule favorably on the Historical Point of Interest designation. Mr. Gracia indicated he preferred to take the matter back to the board. He reported their intention of tearing down the building and felt a new building could be constructed for much less than $1,200,000. He stated the board is not aware of the Redevelopment Agency's inability to finance a portion of the cost. Chairman Barker asked if there is any advantage to a 30-day continuance if the Commission were willing to rule favorably on the Historic Point of Interest designation. Mr. Gracia conceded that a 30-day continuance is not necessary and asked for the subject property be designated a Historic Point of Interest. Commissioner Tolstoy expressed his hope that a plaque be created to inform the community of the significance of the building. He felt it is a tremendous cultural asset. ' Mr. Gracia concurred and stated the board has begun to look into the issue. He mentioned an adjacent 20-foot parcel belonging to the City and expressed his hope for its donation to the Corporation to be used for eight or nine additional parking spaces. Commissioner Macias asked for clarification regarding staff's recommendation. Mr. Buller responded staffs recommendation for Historic Landmark versus Historical Point of Interest is determined by the "Facts for Findings." He reported that both alternatives were offered and mentioned the Commission's policy of not designating a property as a Historic Landmark over owner objection. Commissioner Macias pointed out that any new construction or rehabilitation could be conditioned to provide identification of the site and its significance to the cultural heritage of the community. Mr. Buller concurred and stated mitigation for the historic evidence could be incorporated into the conditional use permit required for future project. Arline Bustamanti, 8183 Ramona Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she is in favor of the Historical Landmark designation. Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Bethel felt the Commission should designate the building a Historic Point of Interest, thereby giving the NHDC the flexibility to request an upgrade designation to Historic Landmark in the 1 future. Mr. Buller suggested incorporating identification of historic facts uncovered during this project when forwarding the Point of Interest motion on to the City Council. HPC Minutes _ -3- December 11, 1996 Commissioner Tolstoy indicated he would like the motion to reflect the Commission's encouragement for the applicant to apply for the Historic Landmark designation in the future. Commissioner Macias voiced his support of the Point of Historic Interest designation, but stated he does not feel, based on the information presented, it is economically viable to rehabilitate the building. He felt the best thing for the site is eventual demolition with appropriate mitigation identifying its historical significance. Commissioner McNiel agreed with Commissioner Macias. Motion: Moved by Bethel, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the resolution recommending approval to designate Point of Historic Interest 96-02 and request the placement of a commemorative plaque and encourage future Landmark designation if the building is retained. AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE -carried PUBLIC COMMENTS, There were no additional public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS ' There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Bethel, carried 5-0 to adjourn. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:38 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes 4- December 11, 1996 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 27, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for November 27, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 13, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for November 13, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 23, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for October 23, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 9, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for October 9, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 25, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for September 25, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 11, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for September 11, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted Brad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 28, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for August 28, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bulleff Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 14, 1996 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. in conjunction with the Planning Commission. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. Mayor Alexander then administered the oath of office to Commissioners Bethel, Macias, and Tolstoy for both the Planning and the Historic Preservation Commissions. He remarked that the City is proud of the Commissioners and their challenging work has made the community a shining star. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, William Bethel, Rich Macias, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Diane O'Neal, Management Analyst II; Maria Perez, Assistant Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-0-2 (Bethel, Macias abstain), to approve the minutes of July 10, 1996. PUBLIC HEARINGS Chairman Barker indicated that Item F from the Planning Commission agenda, Environmental Assessment and Modification to Development Review 93-15, would be heard in conjunction with Item A from the Historic Preservation Commission agenda. A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 96-02 - CAMPOS -Consideration of exterior alterations to connect and expand two historic landmark houses in conjunction with their conversion into a restaurant of 2,530 square feet in the Specialty Commercial district (Subarea 3) of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located at 9634 and 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-24. Staff has prepared a Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. Related File: Modification to Development Review 93-15. Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Raj Joneja, Akal Engineers, 15855 East Edna Place, Suite 11-B, Irwindale, stated they agreed with the changes recommended by the Design Review Committee including elimination of the double door and substitution of asphalt shingles in place of the originally proposed clay tile roof. He noted the parking is increased over the originally approved variance request and stated they are trying to maintain the integrity of the historic houses. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if they are planning to do the project all at one time or if they will be phasing it in. Mr. Joneja replied they plan to do it at one time, including joining the two homes, renovating the other houses, landscaping, and parking. Chairman Barker questioned if the applicant had originally proposed a clay tile roof material. Mr. Joneja responded affirmatively but said that the City recommended the roof should look like the old California bungalow style. Chairman Barker asked if there had been any discussion about using something other than asphalt to retain a fire retardant capability but with an appropriate bungalow look. Mr. Joneja suggested they could use light weight concrete tiles with a dark gray finish if the City so desires. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. ' Commissioner McNiel stated the Design Review Committee reviewed the project several times and had recommended replacing the concrete tile roof with thick butt asphalt shingles in order to preserve the historic integrity of the homes. He noted the applicant had also placed an additional double door between the two houses which are being joined and the Committee convinced the applicant to instead use the two existing doors. Chairman Barker asked if there had been any consideration to using a concrete tile that looks like asphalt shingle. - Commissioner McNiel responded that the building may have to have structural reinforcement in order to use concrete the unless a very light-weight tile is used, which he felt is pretty weak material. He said it was the Committee's feeling that asphalt shingles would better maintain the historic integrity while providing a good roof. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it is very important to preserve the micro-neighborhood. He observed that the property depth is very shallow and results in limited parking. He wanted the restaurant to be successful and feared that there is insufficient parking for the restaurant. He suggested considering elimination of the landscaped area in front of the parking lot and adding another row of parking. He acknowledged that would be against policy but he felt special consideration may be given if a decorative wall were built to screen the parking. He thought the Commission should consider the economic viability of the project. He stated he also had another idea to possibly relocate one of the other houses in order to provide additional parking. He thought perhaps the cottage could be moved to another site and turned into affordable housing and he questioned if there might be some financial aid available from the City in order to do that. HPC Minutes -2- August 14, 1996 Commissioner Bethel commented that the lender originally identified a need for additional parking. He felt parking must be sufficient in order to avoid conflicts in the neighborhood. He liked Commissioner Tolstoy's suggestion to remove the landscaping and insert another row of parking. He feared it would be prohibitively expensive to move one of the houses. Commissioner Macias asked staff if moving the cottage would not impact the historic integrity of the neighborhood. Ms. Fong replied that elimination of one of the bungalows would impact the historic context because it would reduce the visual image. Commissioner Macias asked if the number of parking spaces is below code. Ms. Fong responded that it is below code. She indicated the applicant had received a variance allowing 12 fewer spaces than what is required by code, but this current proposal would be only 4 spaces below the code. She remarked that elimination of the landscaping would require another variance application to reduce the parking setback. Commissioner Macias asked if relocation of the cottage would be at the developer's expense. Commissioner Tolstoy remarked that the City has been providing affordable housing. He thought perhaps the Redevelopment Agency may be able to help. He stated his concern is that he wants the project to work and he fears the limited parking may doom the project. He said he would prefer to preserve all four cottages in this location, but he feared that if the project is not successful, all four houses may be lost. Ms. Fong felt that elimination of the landscaping would allow 7 more spaces. She reiterated that would require another variance application because of the parking setback. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated that Building and Safety staff has begun an enforcement action on the property because of the deterioration of the buildings. He said Building and Safety is concerned that the buildings must be kept secured so they will not become a public hazard. He commented that staff and the applicant are anxious to move forward so that work can begin as soon as possible. He reported that staff had asked the Redevelopment Agency earlier this year to see if they had any funds to move the house and at that time there were no funds available. He felt that once the house is renovated, it will be more marketable and perhaps that avenue could be explored at a later time if it proves that the restaurant needs more parking. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was not suggesting that both of his alternatives be used, only one or the other. Chairman Barker concurred with Commissioner Macias regarding the disruption of the historical integrity if one of the houses is moved. He felt that the buildings are not outstanding in their own right, but only as a neighborhood. He questioned if the extra seven parking spaces in lieu of the landscaping would have that much of an impact. He felt that asphalt shingles are not as fire safe after a few years and preferred that concrete tile be used. He reopened the public hearing to discuss the roofing material with the applicant. Mr. Joneja stated he likes the concept of concrete tiles. He felt they could select a color which would match the rendering and that would look like shingles. He stated that they could install the extra seven parking spaces if it is feasible but said the bank had already approved funding for the project with the parking as proposed. He stated they would prefer to keep all four houses in order to present a better visual impact. Chairman Barker again closed the public hearing. Commissioner McNiel felt the project should be approved as presented. HPC Minutes -3- August 14, 1996 Commissioner Tolstoy also supported the project as presented but said he wants it to be economically viable and he thought the additional seven parking spaces would be helpful. He feared that people will avoid coming to the restaurant if there is not enough parking. Chairman Barker suggested the applicant could apply for a modification and variance in the future if more parking is deemed necessary. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he did not want to stand in the way of the project and he would support approving the project as submitted. He agreed the applicant could request a variance in the future. Chairman Barker asked Commissioner McNiel's feelings about requiring concrete tile. Commissioner McNiel did not object to concrete tile if it looks like it is from the 1920s rather than the 1980s. He said he did not want light-weight concrete tile because it does not stand up to foot traffic, winds, or falling branches. Therefore, he felt it should be heavy tile. Chairman Barker suggested having staff approve the material. It was the consensus of the Commission that approval of the material should be delegated to staff. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the resolutions approving Landmark Alteration Permit 96-02 and Modification to Development Review 93-15 with modifications to require concrete tile roof to the satisfaction of the City Planner. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, BETHEL, MACIAS, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. • R t . ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to adjourn. The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:33 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Larry Henderson Acting Secretary HPC Minutes -4- August 14, 1996 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 24, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for July 24, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 10, 1996 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp (arrived 7:05 p.m.), Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Tricia Ashby, Planning Division Secretary; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Brent Le Count, Associate Planner ' ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements at this time. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-1 (Lumpp absent), to approve the minutes of April 24, 1996. CONSENT CALENDAR A. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 96-01 -MARIE AND JOHN BARNA- A request to implement the use of the Mills Act to reduce property tax on the Palmer Ranch, an historic landmark located at 5708 Hellman Avenue -APN: 1061-761-07. Related file: Landmark Designation 96-02. PUBLIC HEARINGS B. HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION 96-02 - MARIE AND JOHN BARNA - An application to designate the Palmer Ranch a Historic Landmark, located at 5708 Hellman Avenue - APN: 1061-761-07. Related file: Mills Act Agreement 96-01. Chairman Barker stated that Items A and B would be combined. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker then opened the public hearing. John Barna, 5708 Hellman Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that he and his wife had no idea what the property was when they bought it, but are very interested in preserving what is there for Rancho Cucamonga and for themselves as well. Chairman Barker remarked that he had walked that precinct during a recent election and had noted at the time how much work was occurring at the site. He also said that it had been in need of some "TLC." Mr. Barna went on to detail his plans for future preservation regarding the eucalyptus trees and indigenous vines. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it is an opportunity for the City to preserve a great example of Craftsman architecture, especially the outbuildings. He remarked that he has walked past the property and never realized what a treasure is behind the foliage. He further stated that he was sorry to see that there was so much foliage because he would like the people in our community to have the opportunity to enjoy the Craftsman architecture. He supported the designation. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the resolution approving Historic Landmark Designation 96-02 and to recommend approval of Mills Act Agreement 96-01. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, MCNIEL, LUMP, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ' ABSENT: NONE -carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS Commissioner Tolstoy urged the Commission to show their support by attending the Etiwanda Historical Society's Chaffey-Garcia Open House on Saturday, July 13, between 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 P.M. Chairman Barker also indicated there will be a dinner at the Chaffey-Garcia House on August 17. Brad Buller, City Planner, added that the dinner will be French cuisine, benefitting the Etiwanda Historical Society. • . a . a ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, carried 4-0, to adjourn. HPC Minutes -2- f July 10, 1996 7:09 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bulls Secretary HPC Minutes -3- July 10, 1996 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 26, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 26, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, lz�/ Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 12, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 12, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 22, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for May 22, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Ac��� Brad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting May 8, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for May 8, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, /Brad Buller Secretary e CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 24, 1996 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. in combination with the Planning Commission. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary a a a a ' ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. a a a a APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to approve the minutes of December 13, 1995. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-0-1 (Lumpp abstain), to approve the minutes of January 10, 1996. a a a a Chairman Barker announced that Items A and B, Conditional Use Permit 96-09 and Design Review 96-03, respectively, from the Planning Commission agenda would be heard in combination with Items A and B from the Historic Preservation Commission agenda. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 96-01 - SANBAG - A request to designate an existing residence and accessory structures (Sam and Alfreda Maloof residence and workshop - National Register Eligible), located at 9553 Highland Avenue - APN: 202-101-18. Related files: Landmark Alteration Permit 96-01, Conditional Use Permit 96-09, and Design Review 96-03. B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 96-01 - SANBAG -A request to move an existing residence and accessory structures (Sam and Alfreda Maloof residence and workshop), from 9553 Highland Avenue to a 5.54 acre site in the Very Low (VL) zone located at the southeast corner of Carnelian and Almond Streets - APN: 1061-281-16. Related files: Landmark Designation 96-01, Conditional Use Permit 96-09, and Design Review 96-03. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. He reported that two additional letters from residents had been received following preparation of the staff report. He stated concerns were raised regarding the type of fencing, the affect on property values, noise from furniture making tools, and the potential for other commercial uses in the area. Mr. Henderson stated the fencing will be black metal. He also stated there was no indication that the property values have been negatively affected in the area where the operation is currently located or in any of the other neighborhoods where residential-type museums are located. Regarding the noise concerns, he indicated that most of the work done on the furniture is done by hand and tools are used infrequently and the operation will have to comply with the City's noise ordinance. Mr. Henderson stated that he did not know of any other existing historic buildings in the area or proposed to be relocated to the area, and commercial operations are precluded from the zoning for the area unless located in historical buildings. He said a concern had also been raised that the commercial operation on the Maloof property might be expanded and he observed that could only happen following another public hearing. Commissioner Lumpp asked if either of the people who had written the letters had attended the community meeting. Mr. Henderson responded they were not. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. ' David Clarke, SANBAG, 444 North Arrowhead, San Bernardino, commended Mr. Henderson on his summary of the project. He stated that SANBAG had taken great pains to comply with all federal, state, and local laws regarding national historic properties. He introduced Knox Mellon, Executive Director of the Maloof Foundation (a non-profit foundation); architect James Wilson; landscape architect Woody Dike; and Philip Douglas of Associated Engineers. James Wilson, Thirtieth Street Architects, Inc., 2821 Newport Boulevard, Newport Beach, showed slides of the current site. Chairman Barker asked for confirmation on the number of employees. He said he understood Mr. and Mrs. Maloof would be there in addition to a part-time housekeeper, groundsman, and two carpenters. Mr. Clarke confirmed that was correct. An anonymous person asked the cost to the taxpayers. Chairman Barker asked that Mr. Clarke indicate what the cost will be to SANBAG. Mr. Clarke responded the relocation figure is approximately$700,000. He said other cost figures are still being developed because they have had to comply with regulations from a number of different agencies. He indicated the complete costs will become public record but they will not be known until complete construction drawings are available. Chairman Barker observed that the current location is in the middle of the freeway corridor and there is a legal requirement that historic buildings must be saved. HPC Minutes -2- April 24, 1996 Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that Mr. Clarke mention the other mitigation measures that were considered; i.e. moving the freeway south which would cost far more than the relocation of the buildings. Mr. Clarke confirmed that SANBAG had considered the relocation of the freeway and looked at approximately 25 different avoidance alternatives. He said these included moving the freeway south which would have affected 186 homes which would have to be demolished. He observed that moving the freeway would have also affected many aspects of the design of the freeway and would have cost many millions of dollars. He said they also considered moving the freeway north which would have meant 150 homes would have to be demolished. He reported they considered tunneling underneath the property which would be extremely expensive. He said they ultimately selected relocating the property and it was extremely difficult for them to then convince the regulatory agencies that the project is feasible. He said it included looking at every tree and rock and the structure and detail in the house. James Schafer, 8788 Hidden Farm Road, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he lives on the northeast comer of Sunstone and Hidden Farms. He asked about the fencing going north on Sunstone. He asked if they would have access to the Eucalyptus trees on the east side of the ravine or if they would be fenced off. Chairman Barker mentioned he had seen the tree house. Woody Dyke, The Dike Partnership, One Venture, #200, Irvine, stated he is the landscape architect for the project. He reported that the fence, trees, and tree house were discussed at the open house at the Maloof residence. He said they will work with the neighbors to keep the fence on the other side of the trees to allow access to the trees. Hearing no further comments, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy said it appeared the tree house had been saved. Commissioner Melcher felt that Mr. and Mrs. Maloof are going to make an enormous personal sacrifice in the interest of the long term health and growth of the City. He thought their positive approach to the project was remarkable. He supported the project and hoped it will move forward rapidly so the Maloofs can enjoy their new location. Commissioner Tolstoy felt that Sam Maloof is a national treasure which should be kept in the community. He expressed wholehearted support for the project. Commissioner Lumpp stated he was ecstatic about the opportunity to be part of the process and he felt staff did an excellent job to be sure the project will work. He acknowledged there was a tremendous amount of cooperation with all the parties involved. Chairman Barker expressed appreciation for the contribution of all the people who participated in the process. Commissioner McNiel stated it had been a pleasure to work on the project in the design review process. He felt the design team's awareness of the long term value was readily apparent. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, to issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the resolutions recommending approval of Landmark Designation 96-01 and approving Landmark Alteration Permit 96-01, Conditional Use Permit 96-09, and Design Review 96-03. Motion carried by the following vote: HPC Minutes -3- April 24, 1996 AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Melcher, to adjourn the Historic Preservation Commission meeting. 7:38 p.m. -The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -4- April 24, 1996 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 10, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for April 10, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 27, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 27, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 13, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 13, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. `Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 28, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for February 28, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 14, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for February 14, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, / Brad Buller Secretary 1 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 24, 1996 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for January 24, 1996, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 10, 1996 Chairrnan Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: John Melcher STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Donald Granger, Planning Intern; Rick Gomez, Community Development Director; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Mary Kuhn, Personnel Analyst I; Cathy Morris, Planning Technician; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that items A and B be considered concurrently. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-1-1 (Melcher absent, Tolstoy abstain), to approve the minutes of November 8, 1995. 4 t f k CONSENT CALENDAR A. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 95-04 - CHARLES AND FREDELLA GIBBONS - A request to implement the use of the Mills Act to reduce property tax on the Cour House, located at 7567 Etiwanda Avenue - APN: 1100-031-06. Related files: Historic Landmark Designation 95-03. PUBLIC HEARINGS B. HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION 95-03 - CHARLES AND FREDELLA GIBBONS - An application to designate the Cour House as a Local Landmark, located at 7567 Etiwanda Avenue - APN: 1100-031-06. Related files: Mills Act Agreement 95-04. Donald Granger, Planning Intern, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Charles Gibbons, 7567 Etiwanda Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, presented photographs of the restoration work that has been undertaken. Commissioner McNiel commented that the applicant had done a fine job on the restoration. Hearing no further comments, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy commended the applicant for his work. He felt the house is a good addition to the historic structures in the City. Commissioners McNiel and Lumpp concurred. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, to recommend approval of Mills Act Agreement 95-04 and adoption of the resolution recommending approval of Historic Landmark Designation 95-03. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: MELCHER - carried + w w w w C. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND LANDMARK DESIGNATION 95-04 - E. F. MOORE & ASSOCIATES - A request to consider certain properties located on the north side of Foothill Boulevard, east of Interstate 15, as either Local Landmarks or Points of Interest - APN: 227-211-02, 04, 05, 09, 10, 12, 13, 17, 20, 22 through 25, 27, 29, and 32 through 35 and 227-221-01 through 03, 07 through 09, 14, and 22 through 27. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. ' Commissioner Lumpp asked the zoning in the area. Mr. Murphy replied that the portion along Foothill Boulevard is two different commercial zones and the northern portion is Low Medium Residential. Commissioner Lumpp stated it was his understanding that the action to be taken by the Historical Preservation Commission would not have any bearing on future land use decisions regarding modifying the zoning. Mr. Murphy responded that was correct. He said the Commission was only considering whether any of the site or structures have any historical significance that would require some form of mitigation upon their demolition or construction of a new development. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Mr. Murphy commented that the applicant had indicated he would not be able to attend the meeting. Hearing no comments, Chairman Barker closed the hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy stated he agreed with the staff report. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to determine that Sites 3, 5, 6, 7, and 11 be identified as Surveyed Determined Insignificant at this time and adopt the resolution recommending Historic Point of Interest designation for Sacred Heart Catholic Church and T. Ingvaldsen and Sons Store/Regina Restaurant sites. Motion carried by the following vote: HPC Minutes -2- January 10, 1996 AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: MELCHER - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-1 (Melcher absent) to adjourn. 7:22 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, ' Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -3- January 10, 1996 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 27, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for December 27, 1995, was canceled for lack of quorum. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bul er - Secretary 1 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 13, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary x x x x x ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. x x x x x PUBLIC HEARINGS A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 95-03 - CAMPOS - A request to remove, relocate, or demolish two single family residences previously designated as local historic landmarks, located on the north side of Foothill Boulevard between Archibald and Klusman Avenues at 9634 and 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-08 and 09. Related files: Variance 95-06, Development Review 93-15, and Variance 94-04. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments and Chairman Barker closed the hearing. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution denying Landmark Alteration Permit 95-03. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ' ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, carried 5-0, to adjourn. 7:06 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -2- December 13, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 22, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for November 22, 1995, was canceled for lack of quorum. Respectfully submitted, Arad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 8, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, observed that Item A on the Planning Commission agenda was a variance related to Item A on the Historic Preservation Commission agenda. He suggested that the hearing be opened for both items at the same time. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, to approve the minutes of the September 13, 1995, Special Meeting., � • ,t w r PUBLIC COMMENTS Chairman Barker asked if there were public comments for the Historic Preservation Commission regarding anything other than Landmark Alteration Permit 95-03. There were none. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business.' :r a a � ■ Chairman Barker called the Planning Commission meeting to order so that Variance 95-06 from the Planning Commission agenda could be heard concurrently with Landmark Alteration Permit 95-03 from the Historic Preservation agenda. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 95-03 - CAMPOS - A request to remove, relocate, or demolish two single family residences previously designated as local historic landmarks, located on the north side of Foothill Boulevard between Archibald and Klusman Avenues at 9634 and 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-08 and 09. Related files: Variance 95-06, Development Review 93-15, and Variance 94-04. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report for Landmark Alteration Permit 95-03 and Variance 95-06. Commissioner Melcher asked if it would be any more difficult for the applicant to apply fora Landmark Alteration Permit to demolish all four of the houses. Mr. Murphy replied that the applicant had requested historic landmark status because of advantages to the. applicant. He said that staff feels that the designation was granted in part because the entire block is one of the few remaining blocks that is basically intact from the early 1900s. He noted the previous Historic Preservation Commission felt there should be an historic overlay district for this block to retain the homes. He thought that it would not be any easier for staff to recommend approval if the application requested demolition of all four of the houses. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Ana Campos, 5711 Santa Monica Boulevard, Los Angeles, stated she had been working on the project for the last three to four years. She said she has spent a lot of money and the houses are currently in bad condition. She commented that if ' the project is not approved, the houses will continue to deteriorate. She said the project will not be profitable if she cannot provide sufficient parking for the restaurant. She requested approval for the project. Hearing no further comments, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Lumpp stated that his original intent with respect to the project was to preserve the four houses. He said he had not been concerned about the building that was to occupy the restaurant. He felt the four houses along Foothill Boulevard are a unique feature that effectively preserve some of the aspects of the early years in the City of Rancho Cucamonga. He thought that removing two of the four houses would destroy the ambiance that was the intent of preservation of this small area, even if the two houses are moved elsewhere. He opposed removing the houses and replacing them with a commercial building or parking. He agreed with staff's suggestion that the applicant explore the alternative of adaptive reuse of the houses as a restaurant. He supported removal of the structure on the east side and using that for parking rather than removing the residential units. Commissioner MCNiel stated he would like to help the applicant with her predicament, but he felt the City had assisted the applicant by designating the houses as historic. He commented that the structures are in bad condition as a result of negligence on the part of the applicant and he did not feel it would benefit the community to remove or relocate the houses. He thought the structures should be maintained as a window to the past. Commissioner Melcher concurred with the other Commissioners. He observed that the applicant is caught in a trap because the property is in the middle of the block but the project is being required to provide all of the amenities of an HPC Minutes -2- November 8, 1995 activity center at a location where he felt that a four-corner activity center would not be possible for decades in the future. He noted that the southeast corner has a very strong tenant and he thought the tenants on the southwest corner are also strong. He suggested that an option might be to preserve the facades of the houses as false fronts for a new structure to house a restaurant immediately behind them with parking at the east end of the lot. He thought that might maintain the historic ambiance while providing a feasible development. He did not support the project as currently proposed. Chairman Barker noted that the Commissioners were sitting as both the Historic Preservation and Planning Commissions and the applicant was asking that the Planning Commission grant a special privilege. He said the special privileges granted in the past were granted in an attempt to save the structures. He noted this proposal would increase parking by 12 percent to 40 percent of the frontage and would destroy two of the four historic houses in order to obtain 700 more square feet of restaurant space. He saw no advantage to the City and he did not support the application. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Melcher, to direct staff to prepare a resolution of denial of Landmark Alteration Permit 95-03 for adoption at the meeting December 13, 1995. Commissioner Lumpp supported the motion, but wanted to add the comment that the applicant should explore the options suggested by staff. He said he would vote for the motion because he felt the project as currently proposed would destroy the overall objective of the preservation of the structures. The motion to direct staff to prepare a resolution of denial of Landmark Alteration Permit 95-03 for adoption on December 13, 1995, carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER NOES: NONE ABSENT: TOLSTOY - carried Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution denying Variance 95-06. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, NOES: NONE ABSENT: TOLSTOY - carried ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, to adjourn. .7:24 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bull r Secretary HPC Minutes -3- November 8, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting October 25, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for October 25, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, �d Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting October 11, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for October 11, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bul er Secretary 1 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting September 27, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for September 27, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Ar§dCB�Uer Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA •HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 13, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for September 13, 1995, was canceled. A special meeting was held at 5:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ,Bra Bull r Secretary HPC Minutes -1- September 13, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Special Meeting September 13, 1995 chairman Barker called the Special Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ' ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, to approve the minutes of July 12, 1995. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, to approve the minutes of August 9, 1995. CONSENT CALENDAR A. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 95-03 - DANIEL AND ELAINE WINKELPLECK - A request to implement the use of the Mills Act to reduce property tax on the Neil D. and Emma S. Hickcox Residence and Garage, an historic landmark located at 6878 Etiwanda Avenue - APN: 227-041-09. PUBLIC HEARINGS ' B. HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION 95-02 - DANIEL AND ELAINE WINKELPLECK - An application to designate the Neil D. and Emma S. Hickcox Residence and Garage a Historic Landmark, located at 6878 Etiwanda Avenue APN: 227-041-09. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments, and he closed the hearing. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Melcher, to adopt the Consent Calendar recommending approval of Mills Act Agreement 95-03 and adopt the resolution recommending approval of Historic Landmark Designation 95-02. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER NOES: NONE ABSENT: TOLSTOY - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business at this time. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, ' to adjourn. 5:12 p.m. - The Historic Preservation commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Special Meeting Minutes -2- September 13, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting August 23, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for August 23, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bull r Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 9, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry MCNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary x x x x x ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. x x x x x PUBLIC HEARINGS A. POINT OF HISTORIC INTEREST 95-01 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A request to designate the Etivista Winery as a Point of Historic Interest, located at 12700 - 12752' Foothill Boulevard - APN: 227-221-03 and 22 through 24. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Barker asked what limitations would be placed on the property if it were designated an Historic Point of Interest. Mr. Henderson replied none whatsoever. He said that the Commission would review the site when development is proposed and the Commission may determine it is appropriate to further identify the site by perhaps requiring a plaque. He observed such a condition has been applied at other Historic Point of Interest sites. Chairman Barker asked if a plaque is mandatory. Mr. Henderson responded it is not. i, Chairman Barker asked if designation would prohibit destruction of buildings. Mr. Henderson replied it would not. Commissioner Melcher asked if there have been instances in the past and if the authority exists for requiring more than the placing of a plaque. Mr. Henderson stated that under the California Environmental Quality Act, more conditions can be applied depending upon the City's determination of how severe the impact is in terms of resource lost and determining an appropriate mitigation. He felt it would probably be determined that this property would be the lowest level of resource lost. He noted that across the street at Foothill Marketplace, there were several separate historical resources which were local landmark designation level. He said an analysis determined the structures could not stay there and it was determined that proper mitigation would include the moving of several residences, oral histories, a public art program, and donation of funds to an historic preservation project and the site was then designated a Point of Historic Interest. In said that in this case, the City has indicated there is not that level of value on the site and he would not expect such a level of mitigation. Commissioner Melcher asked if after discussion, the Commission determined that a plaque should be all that is required upon development, if the minute records of tonight's meeting would be sufficient to reasonably assure that only a plaque would be requested. Mr. Henderson responded affirmatively. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Walter Blair, 1436 North Euclid Avenue, Ontario, stated that his wife is a surviving offspring of Frank and Minnie Schiro. He said his wife and Buster. Filpi could not be at the meeting this evening. He stated they had talked with surviving members of the family and they felt the building itself has no significance but they would welcome a plaque to note the spot. Father Fred Gaglia, Pastor of Sacred Heart Church, 12704 North Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was speaking as a private citizen and also as an agent of the Roman Catholic Bishop of San Bernardino, the owner of the adjacent property. He opposed the designation of a Point of Historical Interest. He thought such a designation would be an embarrassment to the City because it represents a failed operation and the property is currently unkept. He said the church has had to endure a pollution of sound and fumes from the present operation with the mechanics working until 3:00 a.m. He noted that police chases have taken place on the property because transients and criminals hide there. He said chickens and ducks have been raised on the property and polluted the church and transgressed onto church property. He suggested that historical records be maintained only on library shelves instead of placing plaques on properties. He thought nothing should be done that would impact any of the properties on the north side of Foothill Boulevard or mitigate the church property. He felt plaques and presentations should be made only at the request of families and only for those families who remain in the area and have not moved. He said the Public Resource Code Division 5 for Parks and Monuments indicates that the property to receive designation should be the first, last, and only or most significant historical property of its type in the region. He requested denial of the designation. Richard Johnson, 12704 North Foothill, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he is a member of the parish. He said he supports Route 66 as an historical resource and has traveled Route 66 many times. He indicated that he has questioned why some plaques along the highway were erected. He said he had never heard of the Etivista Winery until last Sunday in church. He noted there is nothing in any of his publications on Route 66 to note that a winery ever existed there. He said he visited the Route 66 Visitor's Center and Bob Lundy had never heard of it either. He noted that the staff report indicated the winery did not play a HPC Minutes -2- August 9, 1995 significant historical role in the winery industry of the region. He thought the winery had faded away and the City should just let if fade away. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Melcher stated there must have been over 10,000 uses along Route 66 that have faded into oblivion and weren't of any significance to anyone. He did not feel a designation of a Point of Historic Interest would magnify the importance of what went on there or is an effort to associate this particular property and use with the history of Route 66. He noted it is a local designation of interest to no more than those people in this immediate area who are interested in what has gone on in the past history of the City-. Commissioner Tolstoy felt designation is important because it is a part of the heritage of the community. He expressed surprise that a person who supports the historical significance of Highway 66 would not want to add any additional prominent happenings to the long list of things Route 66 already recognizes. Commissioner McNiel stated that the purpose of local identifications is to identify the families and people who were involved in enterprises that existed in the area, whether the enterprises failed or succeeded. He said such people contributed to the community generations before us. He noted the proposed degree of designation is minimal, not requiring the preservation of any buildings. He said the community existed because of wine growing grapes and he thought the majority of the grape growing businesses failed because there are not any currently producing wineries. He thought the city should preserve the small amount of history which remains and can be identified as a long term resource. He noted that when something is lost, it is gone forever. Commissioner Lumpp noted that within the City of Rancho Cucamonga there are three to four failed businesses where the City stepped in to preserve the structures, including the old service station near the corner of Archibald and Foothill. He said he supported the designation of a Point of Historic Interest precisely because there are hundreds of people who live in the community and do not know that a winery was located there. He felt it important that people know the use was here, whether it be by marker or some other way. He noted the City is not requiring that the buildings be retained nor prohibiting any development. He felt the action merely shows that the Historical Preservation Commission wishes to retain some semblance of something that happened in the past. Chairman Barker felt the building is not worth saving. He said the Filippi family is the only family that is actively producing wine in town. He expressed concern about a sentiment of pretending that nothing happened there so it would all go away. He felt it represents a part of the City's history, and not all history is good. Commissioner Melcher observed the Commission was talking about recognizing a Point of Historic Interest that the site was once part of the wine industry, not about celebrating police chases, raising of chickens, or an automobile repair garage. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, to adopt the resolution recommending designation of the Etivista Winery as a Point of Historic Interest. Motion carried by the following vote: -� AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried HPC Minutes -3- August 9, 1995 PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS Commissioner Tolstoy stated he had been asked by the City Librarian to serve on a committee at the library that will be dealing with historical pictures in the area and he hoped to parlay that into having the Librarian consider designating a corner of the library dedicated to the history of the area and a collection that would be more extensive than just pictures. Commissioner McNiel suggested Commissioner Tolstoy also see if the Library would have the facilities and wherewithal to conduct some oral histories. Commissioner Tolstoy said that was exactly why he was accepting the opportunity to serve on the committee. Commissioner Lumpp asked if the pictures would be prints, slides, or video. Commissioner Tolstoy was not sure. He said he had previously attempted to get the Library to start an historical collection and the Librarian had been reluctant because the library is so new and the staff was very busy with set up. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to adjourn. 7:32 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 'r HPC Minutes -4- August 9, 1995 b5 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 26, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for July 26, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bu er Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 12, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Miki Bratt, Associate Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Danielle Frazier, Planning Intern; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Steve Ross, Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary x x x x x ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. x x x x x APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, carried 4-0-0-1 with Tolstoy abstaining, to approve the minutes of May 10, 1995. x x x x x DIRECTOR'S REPORTS A. HISTORIC PROPERTY STATUS REVIEW AND DEMOLITION REOUEST - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A request to review the historical level of significance of the Etivista Winery and the demolition of a portion thereof (unreinforced masonry building) , located at 12700 - 12752 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 227-221-03. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner McNiel asked if the property is a hazard at this time. Mr. Henderson replied that it is not currently occupied but could be a liability if someone were in the building or standing next to it. He observed it is immediately adjacent to a structure currently being used, and it could potentially collapse onto that structure. He noted that a variety of types of block were used in the construction. Chairman Barker requested that staff clarify what the implications would be if the location is deemed a Point of Historic Interest. Mr. Henderson replied that it would not require returning to the Commission if a demolition request is made. He indicated that at the point of development, the Commission may wish to require documentation and/or monumentation of the historic nature of the site similar to what was done at Foothill Marketplace. He said it would not require reinforcing, rehabilitation, or restoration of the historic structures. Commissioner Lumpp asked if the property owner had initiated the request for demolition of the designated area. Mr. Henderson responded that under implementation of the City's Unreinforced Masonry Ordinance, the Building & Safety Division initiated the demolition request and the property owner has consented and given his tenant permission to oversee removal of the structure. He said the property owner has received several notifications from the Building & Safety Division over the last two years giving options to do a study, retrofit the building, and bring it up to code. He stated the property owner has elected not to and the only other option i9 demolition. Commissioner Lumpp thought the Commission had two options: 1) to determine the site is Surveyed Determined Insignificant or 2) to classify the site as an Point of Historic Interest. He asked if staff was talking about the entire property or just the portion that is to be demolished. Mr. Henderson replied it would be the entire property. He said that a public ' hearing would be required in order to classify the site as a Point of Historic Interest. Commissioner McNiel asked if a Point of Historic Interest would be commemorated by a plaque. Mr. Henderson replied it could range from a plaque up to additional oral histories. He said he would not recommend HABS/HARES drawings because the buildings have been significantly altered over the years. He reported there is no original equipment from the winery on the site. He stated it has been used longer for industrial uses than it was for a winery. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the remaining buildings are considered structurally safe. Mr. Henderson replied affirmatively. He noted the property now has a non- conforming use and the property owner has indicated it is an interim use until the property is ready for development. He observed that the property is zoned commercial. Chairman Barker invited public comments. There were none. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that the property be designated as a Point of Historic Interest so that at the time the property is developed, a plaque could be placed on the street indicating that it was a winery. He thought that would tie in well to the Foothill Marketplace across the street and it is good to note ' to future residents that there were many wineries in the area. He felt the unreinforced masonry building should be removed. Commissioners McNiel, Melcher, and Lumpp concurred. HPC Minutes -2- July 12, 1995 Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to authorize demolition and direct staff to initiate a Point of Historic Interest designation. Motion. carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS Commissioner Melcher observed that Mr. Henderson had been listed on a recent City Council Agency agenda as a negotiator for what appeared to be an historic property. He asked what property the City was attempting to purchase. Mr. Henderson replied that the property is the China House and stated he would not. say the City is attempting to purchase the property. Commissioner Melcher stated it would be courteous if the Historic Preservation Commission could be informed as to what is going on. Mr. Henderson stated staff would be bringing the matter to the Historic ' Preservation Commission following a reply from the Cucamonga County Water District. • • * r r Commissioner Melcher noted that the Staff Report on Item A indicated that the 1990 study which was prepared by a consultant was incomplete. He asked if the City would use that consultant again. Mr. Henderson replied that the consultant is no longer in business. Commissioner Lumpp announced that he had attended the Historic Preservation Conference in Riverside and he has information packets for the Commissioners. He felt the conference was worthwhile. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, to adjourn. 7:20 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. R pect Dan Coleman � r Acting Secretary HPC Minutes -3- July12, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 28, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 28, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Bra l e Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 14, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for June 14, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Irrad 11 Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting May 24, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation commission for May 24, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, .� Brad Bu er Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 10, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner w x ■ ' ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the California Preservation Conference would be held on June 1 through June 4 at the Mission Inn in Riverside. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, to approve the minutes of February 22, 1995. CONSENT CALENDAR A. LANDMARK PLAQUE - PETER AND ANN TOLSTOY - The proposed installation of a landmark plaque on a rock boulder within the public right-of-way at the Demens-Tolstoy House, located at 9686 Hillside Road - APN: 1061-561-04. B. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 95-01 - WESLEY AND DOROTHY WEST - A request to implement the use of the Mills Act to reduce property tax on the Historic Landmark property, the G. P. Ledig House, located at 5759 Hellman Avenue - APN: 1062-071-24. ' C. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 95-02 - DAVID R. MOORE - A request to implement the use of the Mills Act to reduce property tax on the Kincaid Ranch house, located at 9449 Ninth Street - APN: 209-032-21. Related files: Historic Landmark Designation 95-01 and Historic Landmark Alteration Permit 95-02. Brad Buller, City Planner, noted that Item C is related to Public Hearing Items D and E. He recommended that it be pulled from the Consent Calendar and be considered at the same time that Items D and E are heard. Chairman Barker directed that Item C be removed from the Consent Calendar and considered with Items D and E. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, to adopt Items A and B of the Consent Calendar. C. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 95-02 - DAVID R MOORE PUBLIC HEARINGS D. HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION 95-01 - DAVID R. MOORE - An application to designate the Kincaid Ranch as a Local Landmark, located at 9449 Ninth Street - APN: 209-032-21. Related files: Historic Landmark Alteration Permit 95-02 and Mills Act Agreement 95-02. E. HISTORIC LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 95-02 - DAVID R. MOORE - Consideration of the addition of a 1,620 square foot barn and the rehabilitation of the Kincaid Ranch house, located at 9449 Ninth Street - APN: 209-032-21. Related files: Historic Landmark Designation 95-01 and Mills Act Agreement 95-02. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner McNiel asked if any of the grove will remain on Bite. ' Mr. Henderson replied that the owner is hoping to retain and work the grove as much as possible at the present time. He said they hope to produce enough citrus crops to defray the remainder of the taxes. Chairman Barker asked the age of the trees. Mr. Henderson responded that they are different ages. He noted there are also two large avocado trees. He commented the applicant is doing an excellent job of restoring the house. He said they had stripped the paint off the house down to the original wood and will be starting with a new primer coat so that it will last a long time. He said they are also adding exterior recessed lighting to the building. Commissioner Melcher noted that there appears to be framing in progress shown in the photographs in the staff report. Mr. Henderson stated that a wall of the enclosed porch had to be rebuilt because of decay. Commissioner Melcher asked how staff's recommendation for the area to be landmarked differs from the applicant's original proposal. Mr. Henderson pointed out that the applicant originally proposed the property within the dashed line on Exhibit 1 whereas staff proposed that the area be ' expanded slightly to a 100-foot by 250-foot rectangle. He said staff had determined the minimum code requirements for landscaping and driveway access and determined that staff's proposed area could be retained while still allowing for HPC Minutes -2- May 10, 1995 development on both sides. He said staff was trying to protect as much of the grove as possible. Commissioner Lumpp asked the proposed use of the barn addition. Mr. Henderson replied it could house cars, but it is proposed to house vehicles and equipment to maintain the grove. Commissioner Lumpp asked if there is any problem with the use of roll-up doors or skylights for the addition as it relates to preservation of the architectural integrity of the buildings on the site. Mr. Henderson stated that most preservationists feel that whatever is being added should be compatible but should not try to replicate the existing architecture. He said staff supports the use of roll-up doors on the new structure. He noted the barn is placed in such a way that it will probably not be visible from the street. Commissioner Lumpp asked if the intent was to allow removal of the trees to the east and west of the designated area to turn it into driveways for access •to the southern portion of the lot. Mr. Henderson replied that the trees would be removed at the time of development of the southern two-thirds of the property. He said the applicant has indicated they would like to retain the trees as long as possible. Commissioner Lumpp asked if it is conceivable that the barn addition could be used for some type of industrial use in the future. Mr. Henderson responded that the owner could apply for such a use. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Mr. David Moore, 9540 Center Avenue, #120, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was available to answer any questions. Commissioner McNiel asked if Mr. Moore had any objections to the area proposed by staff for landmark designation. Mr. Moore replied he felt staff had accomplished his objective. He said they did not want to close off the back portion of the property. Commissioner McNiel asked how much room was left on each side for the driveways. Mr. Moore thought 31 feet was left on each aide--26 feet for the driveway and 5 feet for the landscaping. Commissioner McNiel asked if there are any tentative plans for the back portion. Mr. Moore said he hopes to eventually develop the back half and use ..it as income for his retirement, but he has not decided what he will do as yet. He thought perhaps it would be an industrial building. Commissioner McNiel stated the applicant was to be commended for his undertaking. ' Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. HPC Minutes -3- May 10, 1995 Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolutions approving Historic Landmark Designation 95-01 and Historic Landmark Alteration Permit 95-02 and approving the Mills Act Agreement 95-02 by minute action. ,Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER NOES: NONE ABSENT: TOLSTOY - carried x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. x x x x x x COMMISSION BUSINESS Chairman Barker stated he heard members of the Commission state there are a number of people in the community who know a lot about historic preservation and the Commission is not taking advantage of those skills and that knowledge. He said he had talked to staff and thought it would be possible for people to serve on an advisory committee to the Planning Commission. He thought perhaps some office space could be made available. Chairman Barker said he would like the permission and involvement of the Commissioners in an effort to recruit and see if there is any interest by such community members in serving in an advisory capacity. Commissioner McNiel felt it is a good idea. Commissioner Melcher asked if the idea would be to select a limited number. Chairman Barker suggested a limited number of people to be the advisory committee, but that committee could involve as many people as they wanted working with them. He acknowledged that there is limited staff time to work with such a committee. Commissioner Melcher suggested designing a brief questionnaire and interview procedure so that the people selected would be well qualified and can deal with the Commission's questions on a factual historic basis as opposed to someone involved in only an emotional way. Commissioner Lumpp hoped that once someone is selected, they could do some memoirs related to the history. x x x x x Commissioner Lumpp said he would like to attend the California -Preservation Foundation Conference in Riverside. Brad Buller, City Planner, felt it would be advantageous for Commissioners to attend. He reported that two staff members will be presenters at the conference. ' Commissioner Melcher said he would also like to attend. x x x x x HPC Minutes -4- May 10, 1995 Commissioner Melcher stated that on Wednesday, May 17, the local chapter of the American Institute of Architects would host a "dusty shoes" tour of the historic Riverside County Courthouse, highlighting a $23 million dollar rehabilitation project to seismically upgrade and restore the building. He indicated that tickets were available for $15 including a picnic supper or $10 for the tour only. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, carried 4-0-1 with Tolstoy absent, to adjourn. 7:33 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary ' HPC Minutes -5- May 10, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC, PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 26, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for April 26, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, rad Bull r Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 12, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for April 12, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, rad Bullifir Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting March 22, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 22, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bu ler Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 8, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for March 8, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bul r Secretary J CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES , Regular Meeting February 22, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. BOLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Paul Rougeau, Traffic Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary x x x x x ' ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. x x x * x APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel, carried 5-0. to approve the minutes of January 11, 1995. x x x x x PUBLIC HEARINGS A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND HISTORIC LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 95-01 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A request to relocate and replace historic trees along Highland Avenue in conjunction with installation of traffic signals and street widening at the intersection of Highland and East Avenues. Paul Rougeau, Traffic Engineer, presented the staff report. Commissioner Lumpp asked why the City would be doing the work since the work is to be done in the Caltrans right-of-way. Mr. Rougeau responded that Caltrans agreed to join in on the work and will pay ' for the bulk of the project. He said that because of Caltrans staff limitations, the City is doing the design, environmental clearance, advertising, and construction administration. He reported that a standard cooperative agreement will be executed after the environmental clearance is obtained. Commissioner Lumpp asked if Caltrans commented on the environmental documentation. Mr. Rougeau replied Caltrans did not comment on the City's review .but had commented on the Route 30 Environmental Impact Report (EIR) . Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. The Reverend Elizabeth Habecker, 6563 East Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she represents the owner of the Mueller property on the southeast corner of Highland and East avenues. She questioned the implications on the windrow bordering the Mueller property. Mr. Rougeau replied there is no involvement of the trees bordering the Mueller property. Nancy Murphy, 6549 Flagstone Place, Rancho Cucamonga, asked what Caltrans will do with the trees when Route 30 is built. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that current landscape plans for the stretch of freeway phasing creating the Interstate 15/30 interchange go to East Avenue. He said there are conceptual drawings for the rest of the freeway but they are not finaled. He reported that the Caltrans EIR discusses the preservation of the eucalyptus windrows and the palm trees so their preservation will be addressed in the final plans. Me. Murphy asked if the trees will be preserved in place or removed to somewhere else. Mr. Buller replied they can stay in the same location. He said Caltrans has ' indicated that they prefer not to have palm trees on the freeway because of the potential for palm fronds to blow on the freeway. He commented Highland Avenue will be a frontage road on the south side of the freeway and one proposed concept is that the palm trees be realigned and used as the street tree for Highland south of the eucalyptus trees. Ms. Murphy suggested that a stop sign be placed at the intersection of Highland and East Avenue. Mr. Rougeau stated that a stop sign had been considered but Caltrans felt a signal would be better because of the accident history and the fact that Highland is a high speed rural road. Ms. Murphy asked how much of the intersection will be destroyed when Route 30 is built. Mr. Rougeau replied it will be totally revamped when the freeway is constructed. Mr. Buller observed that the City Council established a Route 30 community task force which is looking at the freeway corridor and the public has input on the design of the freeway. Chairman Barker noted those meetings are held on the second Tuesday of every month. Ms. Murphy asked how depressed the freeway will be in this location. ' HPC Minutes -2- February 22, 1995 Mr. Buller replied that this area is proposed to be depressed about 10 feet. Donald Lundgren, 13020 Vista Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he travels through the intersection approximately four times per day. He felt a traffic signal is warranted at the intersection and he thought trees need to be removed near the intersection. He felt the eucalyptus trees on the southeast corner of Highland and East impair visibility of drivers traveling north on East Avenue. Commissioner Melcher commented that Mr. Rougeau had stated no tree removals are planned for that corner. He observed that the Commission was to consider only the tree removal, not whether a signal would be installed. Chairman Barker confirmed that the matter before the Historic Preservation Commission was only the possible relocation and replacement of historic trees. Candice Fowler, 13205 Catalpa Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she lives near the intersection. She said it was her understanding that a signal cannot be installed without removing some trees to widen the street. She commented that the intersection is used daily to transport students to nearby elementary schools and there is also a junior high school and a high school nearby. She acknowledged the trees are difficult to see around but she also noted the accidents seem to most often occur in the early morning and early evening when the sun casts a lot of shadows on the road, which curves and dips down. She asked that the trees be removed and transplanted so that the signal could be installed. Chairman Barker noted that the City Council has directed that a traffic signal be installed. ' Harold Ansell, 6548 East Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, felt that two trees on the southwest corner need to be removed so that northbound drivers entering the intersection will be able to see traffic traveling westbound on Highland. Jim Frost, Etiwanda Historical Society, P. O. Box 363, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had chaired the Etiwanda Specific Plan Committee. He did not feel the intersection is inherently dangerous but noted that it is used by many inexperienced drivers and others unfamiliar with it. He said this was the first time the issue had formally been discussed by a City body. He observed that the intent of the Etiwanda Specific Plan was to preserve the image of the area. He stated that the intent was to provide phased replacement of the trees so that they would not be removed all at one time. He felt no trees need to be removed from the southeast corner because traffic going west is on the opposite side of the road. He thought that several of the trees on the southwest corner do need to be removed for visibility. He also thought it would be appropriate to remove and replace the palm trees on the northwest corner in order to widen the intersection. Becky Watson, 6610 Egglestone Place, stated she had an accident at the corner and she felt it was because the trees on the southwest corner impair invisibility. Reverend Habecker agreed that several of the trees on the southwest corner need to be removed. She said some posts have been placed along the road near the Citation Homes project to the east of the intersection. she felt the posts make it difficult to see traffic coming from the east and suggested that they be considered. She said her vision is also obstructed by trees at the southeast corner of the intersection. HPC Minutes -3- February 22, 1995 Ruth Ansell, 6548 East Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she has lived by the southwest corner for the last 31 years. She observed that when making a right turn from Highland Avenue to southbound East Avenue, vehicles must go almost to the middle of East Avenue to make the turn because of the curb and ditch at the corner. She asked that the turning radius be widened. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. _. Commissioner Melcher asked staff to respond to the conflicting opinions of users of the intersections regarding the trees on the southeast corner. He thought it may be wise to include a few of those trees with this application. Mr. Rougeau stated that he had not observed any visibility obstruction on the southwest corner and said he did not anticipate any problems. He said he has noticed that there is a vast difference in the tolerance people have for so-called visibility obstruction, in that some people desire to see much farther than is required from the standpoint of approach speed, etc. He felt that visibility at the intersection is currently safe and will be adequate until the signal is installed. He said he currently does not see the need to remove any trees in order to install the signal, but he stated staff would look at the visibility again. He said that all four corners will be rounded and given a larger radius as part of the project. Commissioner Melcher requested that staff study the intersection from the vantage point of drivers of small trucks as well as both low-riding and standard automobiles. Commissioner Lumpp asked how many eucalyptus trees will be removed on the southwest corner. Mr. Rougeau responded that two or three will need to be removed at the corner, ' but it has not yet been determined how many will need to be removed for the right-turn lane. Commissioner Lumpp asked if those trees would be replaced with smaller trees in the areas where there are currently only stumps. Mr. Rougeau responded that was correct. Commissioner McNiel felt the intersection needs to be improved. He agreed with Commissioner Melcher and thought that the southeast corner should be reviewed as well and trees removed or trimmed as necessary to make exiting from northbound East Avenue as safe as possible. Commissioner Tolstoy noted that the issue at hand was a Landmark Alteration Permit, which he supported. He thought the issue of trees on the southeast corner should possibly be addressed by the Planning Commission rather than having the Historic Preservation Commission belabor the point. He said that during the Planning Commission meeting, he would suggest that the Traffic Engineer study the visibility from the southeast corner of the intersection. Commissioner Melcher suggested adding a condition that the trees in question be examined and removed or replaced as appropriate. Chairman Barker felt the Commission was stating that the trees should be removed ' at this time if it is advisable that they be removed. HPC Minutes -4- February 22, 1995 Mr. Buller stated that the advertising did not specify either corner of the intersection, so staff could remove trees on either side as deemed necessary by the City Engineer. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Melcher, to issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the resolution approving Historic Alteration Permit 95-01, including possible removal of trees at the southeast corner if so determined by the City Engineer. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS Nancy Murphy, 6549 Flagstone Place, Rancho Cucamonga, felt the biggest problem with the intersection at East Avenue and Highland Avenue is the speed on Highland Avenue. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission Business. ' ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to adjourn. 7:53 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. R2ARectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -5- February 22, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 8, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for February 8, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, . B' rad Buller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting January 25, 1995 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for January 25, 1995, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Sull r Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 11, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher (arrived at 7:02 p.m. ) , Larry McNiel, Peter Toletoy STAFF PRESENT: Miki Bratt, Associate Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the applicant for Item A on the agenda also had a pending application for development on the Planning Commission agenda. He recommended that the Planning Commission meeting be opened and the two items be heard concurrently. * x * • w APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Toletoy, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-0-1 with McNiel abstaining, to approve the minutes of November 9, 1994. Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-0-2 with Melcher and Toletoy abstaining, to approve the minutes of December 14, 1994. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 94-04 - CAMPOS - Consideration of exterior alterations, generally consisting of access ramps, landscaping, hardscape changes, parking areas, and outdoor furniture in conjunction with the conversion of four single family residences to commercial uses, located at 9618, 9626, 9634, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 208-153-08 through 11. Related file: Development Review 93-15. Chairman Barker announced that Item F from the Planning Commission agenda, Environmental Assessment and Development Review 93-15, would be heard concurrently with Landmark Alteration Permit 94-04. HPC Minutes 1 January 11, 1995 Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the combined staff report. Commissioner Lumpp questioned what impact the recommended 73-foot right-of-way dedication will have on the existing gas station to the east. Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, responded that the 73-foot dedication will put the gas canopy within the street right-of-way with the canopy being about 2 feet back from the curb face. Commissioner Lumpp said his only concern was that the right-of-way dedication not require removal of the canopy. Mr. James observed that Engineering Condition No. 2 specifically calls for preservation of the canopy. Commissioner Tolstoy asked how preservation of the canopy will affect pedestrian flow. Mr. Murphy stated the walkway would go under the canopy. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Carl Kobbins, CTK, Inc., 8880 Benson, #t100, Montclair, stated he is the engineer for the project and that Mrs. Campos was present in the audience. He said he had clarified a few items with the Engineering Division and had no objections to any of the conditions of approval. Commissioner Lumpp noted that following the Design Review Committee meeting he had again looked at the project and he asked if the applicant would object to providing a chimney on House No. 1 as on Houses No. 3 and 4. He felt fireplaces help to create an ambiance. Mr. Kobbins did not object. Bob Saunders, The Ink Company, 1181 Nicole Court, Glendora, stated that he owns the two properties immediately west of the subject property. He questioned why the application was for an historic landmark alteration permit rather than just a development review. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the applicant had previously initiated a request to have the property designated as historic and the City had deemed it was historic; therefore, any changes require a landmark alteration permit. Mr. Saunders felt the project will improve the area because the homes have been vacant. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Melcher asked if there had been any consideration as to how the project will be phased or if the entire project is planned together'. He did not want the restaurant to be built and the houses allowed to continue to deteriorate. He noted that Condition No. 1 of the Landmark Alteration Permit requires that the access ramp use materials consistent with the building design but the elevation shown with the staff report seems to depict a concrete ramp with pipe handrails. He recalled that when reviewing an earlier application at ' another location for the addition of a second floor staircase to an old residence, the Commission had been informed that most preservationists feel additions should contrast and be visually distinguished from the original HPC Minutes 2 January 11, 1995 structure. He thought the elevation would be more in keeping with what staff had indicated on the previous application than the language of the condition. ' Mr. Murphy responded that it is staffs intent that the project be developed at one time. He noted that a condition calls for consolidation of the five parcels into one. Mr. Buller said that the applicant would have to apply for a modification to the approval if a phasing plan is proposed. He said all of the conditions will need to be met prior to occupancy. He recalled that there is a difference of opinion in historic preservation circles as to appropriate ways to add onto historic structures. He felt the historical significance of the structure should be considered. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated additions should not have such a contrast that they detract from the original architecture. He felt it would not be appropriate to use aiding similar to the house along the ramp because a ramp would not have been on the house when it was built. He felt a simple metal railing painted to blend with the house would be more appropriate. He thought other effects could be also used that would be compatible and not detract from the house. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the simple ramp depicted on the elevation does not detract from the architecture and would be appropriate. Commissioner Melcher agreed the design as presented is appropriate. Commissioner McNiel remarked that handicap ramps existed but were not required ' at the time the house was built. He felt that few of them would have been built with pipe rails. He preferred that the ramps be more consistent with the houses, but he felt that the pipe railings as proposed are acceptable if painted in appropriate colors. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution approving Landmark Alteration Permit 94-04 with modification to require a chimney on House No. 1. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried Mr. Buller observed that the minutes would reflect that the Commission found the pipe railing is appropriate. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, to issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the resolution approving Development Review 93-15. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. HPC Minutes 3 January 11, 1995 PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS ' Commissioner Lumpp stated he had seen a newspaper article about concerns voiced by the Historical Preservation Society regarding existing eucalyptus trees on Highland adjacent to East Avenue. He asked if the matter should come before the Historic Preservation Commission. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the Engineering Division is designing the intersection and is processing a Landmark Alteration Permit which will be heard by the Historic Preservation Commission because the trees have been designated. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 5-0, to adjourn. 7:33 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. R epectfully submitted, /t Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes 4 January 11, 1995 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 28, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for December 28, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting . December 14, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel ABSENT: John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner ANNOUNCEMENTS ' There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested that the Commissioners not take action on the minutes because only Chairman Barker and Commissioner Lumpp would be able to vote. Therefore, there was no action taken on the minutes. NEW BUSINESS A. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 94-02 (DEMENS-TOLSTOY HOUSE,I - PARKER Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner McNiel questioned if the agreement would go with the property as opposed to the property owner. Mr. Warren responded that was correct. Chairman Barker stated that he wanted to clarify that there is some way to 1 monitor to be sure the money is being used for the stated purpose under the Mille Act. chairman Barker then invited public comments, but there were none. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to recommend approval of Mills Act Agreement94-02. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL NOES: NONE ABSENT: MELCHER, TOLSTOY - carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business. • • • w w w ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-2 with Melcher and Tolstoy absent to adjourn. 7:11 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes 2 December 14, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES 1 Regular Meeting November 23, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission for November 23, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES ' Regular Meeting November 9, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Larry McNiel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning' Commission Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner « x « « « ANNOUNCEMENTS ' There were no announcements. x x « x x APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Toletoy, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-1-1 with McNiel absent and Toletoy abstaining, to approve the minutes of September 14, 1994. NEW BUSINESS A. MILLS ACT AGREEMENT 94-01 - CUCAMONGA SERVICE CLUB - A request to implement the use of the Mille Act to reduce the property tax on the Central Public School (Sweeten Hall), an Historic Landmark property located at 9324 San Bernardino Road - APN: 208-111-09. Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. /Chairman Barker invited public comments, but there were none. Commissioner Melcher said it is hoped that the funds saved in taxes would be used for improvements. He asked how the City will know that is happening. Mr. Warren replied that the contract rune for ten years and the City annually reviews the progress being made on the property maintenance schedule. Chairman Barker thought one of the previous contracts had indicated target dates for the various items. Mr. Warren replied that the contracts he had reviewed did not list specific dates, but merely listed the items in the anticipated order of completion. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that some applicants have spelled out a ten- year plan with specific items targeted to be accomplished in specific years. He said that is enclosed as an exhibit to the contract; but the contract does not state they must adhere to any set schedule. He stated the only recourse by the City would be to find the agreement in default. Commissioner Melcher asked what mechanism would allow the City to act accordingly. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney stated the agreement has a cancellation paragraph describing the process whereby the City could determine that the owner has breached the contract and that the owner may then be subject to payment of the cancellation fees, which would be back taxes. Chairman Barker asked if staff had determined how much in taxes would be saved by the owner. Mr. Warren replied that had not been done because the County Assessor's Office would have to determine the new tax. Chairman Barker noted that the City would have no way of knowing if the money being saved in taxes is being used for improvements if the City does not know the amount of tax savings. Mr. Warren said that staff will be monitoring the progress every year and would contact the owner if it is felt there was not sufficient progress. Mr. Buller said he had been in touch with the applicant, and it was his understanding that the tax savings will not account for all of the money necessary to do the listed improvements. He said the applicant has indicated they intend to do the improvements and the tax savings would be used to augment the cost of the work. Chairman Barker said he was not particularly concerned about this applicant, but was more concerned with the contract form. Chairman Melcher stated he felt better after learning that staff will annually make inspections and review the contract. Mr. Buller confirmed that the inspections will be performed by the Planners. Chairman Barker requested that the tax savings be calculated in the future. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the other properties with Mills Act contracts are being regularly monitored. Mr. Buller stated that had been one of the responsibilities of the former staff member who was assigned to historic preservation. Commissioner Tolstoy asked how it will be handled since that staff member has left. HPC Minutes 2 November 9, 1994 Mr. Buller said it will now be assigned to other planners. He said a tickler file will alert the Principal Planner as to when the review is due. Commissioner Toletoy asked if the contract is unique to Rancho Cucamonga .or if _ it is a form used universally. Mr. Buller stated that Rancho Cucamonga was the first to initiate use of the Mille Act and drew up the contract. Commissioner Toletoy felt the contract should be revised so that it would include a schedule from the applicant listing what will be repaired with a timetable. He thought the schedule of savings should also be known when the City and the applicant draw up the contract. Commissioner Melchor agreed. He thought that the program could be construed to be a gift of public funds if there is not good faith on the part of the property owner. Commissioner Toletoy stated his remarks were not aimed at the current applicant, rather he felt the information should be included for all applicants. Mr. Hanson stated he had drafted the contract. He said the Williamson Act for open space has a provision giving cities authorization to enter into this type of contract with no returns. He stated it had been his idea to include schedules for preservation and rehabilitation when he drafted the contract because he felt it would be an opportunity to have ,property preserved and maintained, but it is not a prerequisite for ouch contracts. He said the law was passed to encourage preservation and that is the benefit to the cities; it was not intended to be a quid pro quo. He commented staff had not researched the amount of tax savings • because that was not the goal at the time the program was set up. He felt it would be time consuming for staff to obtain that information. He indicated the idea was that a property owner would determine that the Act would be to their benefit and they would approach the City with a request. He said the document could be tailored to have definite time lines if the Planning Commission so desires. Commissioner Melchor questioned if the contract would still have nine years to go at the time it is not renewed. Mr. Hanson responded that would be correct in the case of nonrenewal. He noted that would not be the case if there was a cancellation for default. Commissioner Melchor felt that would be giving the City a benefit because the City 'would have some assurance that the property would be there for at least ten years. Chairman Barker still felt that the tax savings information should be included in the report on future requests. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melchor, to recommend approvalzof Hills Act Agreement 94-01. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: NONE ABSENT: MCNIEL - carried HPC Minutes 3 November 9, 1994 PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS �1 There was no Commission business at this time. x x x x x x ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-1 with MCNiel absent to adjourn. 7:24 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes 4 November 9, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 26, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation commission for October 26, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad B ller Secretary 1 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 12, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for October 12, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, / Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -1- October 12, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 28, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for September 28, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, f Brad Bu ler Secretary HPC Minutes -1- September 28, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 14, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:02 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher ABSENT: Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, carried 2-0-2-1 with McNiel and Tolstoy absent and Barker abstaining, to approve the minutes of August 10, 1994. PUBLIC HEARING A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 94-03 - R0DRIGUEZ - Consideration of deletion of the formerly approved mechanical wheelchair lift and addition of a wheelchair ramp along the south side of the building and an exterior stairway on the west side of the building known historically as the Klusman House, a designated Local Landmark, located at 8841 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 207-211-13. Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. HPC Minutes -1- September 14, 1994 Commissioner Lumpp questioned if the requirement for a handicapped ramp is ' permitted under the historical designation provision. Ms. Luttrell replied that staff felt that the concrete ramp is minimal, could be easily deleted, and would not actually alter the building. She also pointed out that the slope on the ramp is slight enough that handrailings will not be required. Commissioner Melcher noted business is to be conducted on the second floor, which is not accessible by wheelchairs. He asked how that could comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) . Ms. Luttrell replied the Building and Safety Division determined it would meet the requirements of ADA BO long as the same services are offered on the first floor. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There was no testimony, and he closed the hearing. Commissioner Melcher questioned the notion that whatever is added to the building should be constructed so that it could easily be removed to restore the building to its original condition. He felt the historic fabric of the building consists of all that takes place in it over a period of time. He said he had visited many historic structures throughout the country which have been adapted to other uses and the modifications are designed to correspond and integrate with the historic structure, rather than appearing to be tacked on and easily removable. He thought the proposed stairway will appear cheap ' and tacky and inappropriate. He said there are many buildings of this style of architecture which have beautiful, elaborate stairways which fit in well with the architecture. He said he did not oppose this project, but he felt the Commission should examine the philosophical issue. commissioner Lumpp agreed with Commissioner Melcher. He said he was also concerned with the architectural style of the staircase. He suggested that staff work with the applicant to enhance the staircase design. He did not wish to delay the project as he thought the applicant has done a marvelous job of rehabilitation. Chairman Barker noted that the applicant has been easy to work with and he felt the applicant would continue to be cooperative. Commissioner Melcher noted that the exhibits in the staff report depict a handrail on the ramp. Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, to adopt the resolution approving Landmark Alteration Permit 94-03. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MELCHER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL, TOLSTOY -carried HPC Minutes -2- September 14, 1994 PUBLIC COMMENTS ' There were no public comments at this time. * * * * * COMMISSION BUSINESS Commissioner Melcher hoped that the Commission could soon explore how to design additions to historic buildings. * * * * * Commissioner Melcher asked the results of the appeal to the City Council regarding Landmark Alteration Permit 94-02. Brad Buller, City Planner, responded that the City Council denied the appeal, upholding the Planning Commission's decision. * * * * * ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, carried 3-0-2 with MCNiel and ' Tolstoy absent, to adjourn. • 7:15 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -3- September 14, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 24, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for August 24, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Huller Secretary HPC Minutes -1- August 24, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 10, 1994 Vice Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Vice Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher ABSENT: David Barker, Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, stated there were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-2 with Barker and Tolstoy absent, to adopt the minutes of July 27, 1994. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 94-02 - ST. CLARE OF ASSISI - Consideration of the addition of a parking lot and modular building to an existing lot which is the site of the building known historically as the Ernst Mueller House, a designated Local Landmark, located at 6563 East Avenue - APN: 227-071-17. Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. ' Commissioner Melcher asked if more orange trees would be removed at a later phase. HPC Minutes -1- August 10, 1994 Ms. Luttrell replied that more parts of the grove will need to be removed when the whole campus site is constructed. She said another Landmark Alteration Permit could be processed at that time. She stated that the master plan is currently very conceptual so it is difficult to determine what trees would need to be ultimately removed. Commissioner Melcher stated he hoped that a different Commission would not tie the church's hands by prohibiting the removal of further trees if necessary. Vice Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. The Reverend Elizabeth Habecker, Vicar of St. Clare of Assisi, P. O. Box 1428, Rancho Cucamonga, stated they agreed with the City's concern regarding the preservation of the site. She said they are willing to modify the master plan to ensure efficient use of the property and also the maintenance of its historical nature. She reported they were finding that the trees are responding well to attention and the master gardener of the County has indicated he will meet with them to discuss a program on caring for the orchard, which will include replacing the citrus trees when they have outgrown their life span. She observed the trees make excellent green cover. She said that CalTrans has qualified the house and site for the National Register through the CalTrans process but they have chosen to work locally. Commissioner Melcher asked if the church had had an opportunity to look at the ramifications of the condition requiring that grading and trenching be performed under the supervision of an archaeologist. ' The Reverend Habecker responded that she thought it would be standard operating procedure on an historic site. She said she was not aware of the monetary ramifications. She felt the requirement would be appropriate. Commissioner Melcher agreed the requirement is appropriate. He said he just wanted to make sure the church is aware of it. The Reverend Habecker said she had thought the City had an archaeologist. Commissioner Melcher stated they did not. The Reverend Habecker said they would have to deal with it. Hearing no further testimony, Vice Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Lumpp felt the use is appropriate. Commissioner Melcher noted that Condition No. 1 requires a restoration plan including replacement planting for the orange grove but that Condition No. 2 requires a Tree Removal Permit prior to removal of any trees including those in the orange grove. He felt the removal and replacement of orange trees should not require a separate Tree Removal Permit once the restoration plan is adopted. HPC Minutes -2- August 10, 1994 Brad Huller, City Planner, suggested that the Commission could defer approval of the replacement plan to staff and delete the reference to orange trees from Condition No. 2. Commissioners Melcher and Lumpp felt that would be satisfactory. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher to adopt the resolution approving Landmark Alteration Permit 94-02 with modification to delete the requirement for a Tree Removal Permit for removal of orange trees once the restoration plan is approved by staff. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, TOLSTOY -carried x + x x B. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 94-02 CAMPOS - Consideration of an application to designate 9618, 9626, 9634, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard as either an Historic Landmark or an Historic Point of Interest - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10, and 11. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. He commented that the applicant had considered potential conditions of approval which would be applied to the conversion of the four houses and the construction of a new ' cafe and determined that the cafe would need to be expanded to approximately 2,000 square feet from the current proposal of 1,367 square feet. He said the increase in size would impact the variance application on the Planning Commission agenda and he suggested the Commission may wish to hear the variance item first because the outcome of that decision may have an impact upon the applicant's request to landmark the property. Vice Chairman McNiel indicated that the public hearing remained open from the July 27, 1994, meeting. He asked if the applicant would prefer to have this item heard in conjunction with the Variance request. Ana Campos, 5711 Santa Monica Boulevard, Los Angeles, requested that the items be heard together. x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time, x x + x The Historic Preservation recessed at 7:20 p.m. x x x x x B. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 94-02 CAMPOS HPC Minutes -3- August 10, 1994 At 7:25 p.m. Vice Chairman McNiel reconvened the Historic Preservation , Commission meeting to hear Landmark Designation 94-02 in conjunction with Variance 94-04. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report for Variance 94-04. He commented that the site would be deficient 14 parking spaces if the cafe size is increased to 1,996 square feet. He stated that the applicant had also submitted an alternate proposal for a cafe just under 1,700 square feet. Commissioner Melcher asked if there was a way the designation might be granted conditionally upon the successful completion of the project. He observed the four houses are in a state of disrepair. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that a Landmark Designation is a tool used to ensure that the buildings stay historically true. He said staff believes the structures can be rehabilitated and match the photographs in the staff report. Mr. Murphy suggested that the project could be conditioned so that the exterior of the buildings would be refurbished to the standards depicted in the photographs in the staff report. He said that would not preclude the applicant from making interior changes but exterior changes beyond what is indicated in the photographs would require a landmark alteration permit. Commissioner. Melcher asked what the City would gain by designation. ' Mr. Murphy responded that the City gains because the structures are not destroyed. He said the applicant has indicated a willingness to rehabilitate the structures. He noted the advantages to the applicant are the ability to use the historic building code and potential tax credits. Vice Chairman McNiel asked what type of separation would be provided between the project and the residences to the north if the variance were granted to allow the elimination of the 15-foot rear yard setback. Mr. Murphy replied that there is currently a mixture of fences along the property line. It stated it was staff's intention to require a wall in conjunction with the development review application. Vice Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Patrick Mora, stated he is the architect for the owner and they had been working on the project for the last year. He said Ms. Campos had initially planned to demolish the houses but she has since agreed to seek a landmark designation and retain the houses even though it meant parking consequences. He said she has also provided access to the rear of the site to provide for future development of the area. He stated she had complied with all of the requirements from CalTrans and the Engineering and Planning Divisions. He commented they had made all the revisions that had been requested to the drawings. He said the landmark buildings will be refurbished to appear as they had previously looked and updated to meet disability access HPC Minutes -4- August 10, 1994 requirements. He reported the cafe was originally planned to seat only 26 patrons but following consultations with the potential cafe manager, they determined that a 26-seat cafe would not be economically feasible. He said he then prepared two other options, one being 1,698 square feet which would seat 36 people and another of almost 2,000 square feet which would seat 40 people. He stated the larger cafe would result in a deficiency of 14 spaces and the 1,698 size would mean a deficit of 11 spaces. He felt the area would gain because of the improvement of the buildings and the existence of the cafe. He thought there may be less dependence on automobiles in the future. with more people walking or bicycling. He said their engineer had recently sent a report to state that all problems had been worked out with CalTrans. He commented the larger building would only stretch the building 10 feet to the side and 2 feet to the front. Commissioner Lumpp asked if tenants are lined up for any of the other buildings. Ana Campos, 5711 Santa Monica Boulevard, Los Angeles, responded affirmatively. Commissioner Melcher noted that Exhibit D depicted what was shown as an ultimate drive location which would require removal of House No. 3. Mr. Murphy replied that the site plan was prepared as an example of what was originally requested by the Engineering Division and agreed to by CalTrans. He said that the driveway would not be relocated to this location until the site is redeveloped or expanded. Commissioner Melcher suggested that the plan be further developed prior to granting approval of the cafe. He felt it would be silly to grant approval of a cafe building that would not serve the purpose. He said he had initially raised the question at Design Review of whether a 26-seat cafe would be economically feasible. He. noted that in the Landmark Designation staff report, House No. 3 was indicated as having been surveyed, but of undetermined significance, meaning that it would have the least value of the four houses. He thought it might be good to initially require the removal of the house because it would diminish the parking required for the office uses. Mr. Murphy stated that the house which would be removed in order to accommodate the driveway shown on Exhibit D would actually be House No. 2, which was reviewed and found to be a potential local landmark. Commissioner Melcher felt that given the need for a larger cafe and the possibility that the house would be removed eventually it may perhaps still be best to remove the house at this time. Mr. Buller stated the item had come before the Planning Commission in a pre- application review, at which time the driveway issue was discussed. He thought the Commission had indicated the four homes together gave a better context than to place driveway where Engineering has indicated. Commissioner Melcher agreed that had happened but he noted that was a different Planning Commission than the one now seated. He also pointed out HPC Minutes -5- August 10, 1994 that was prior to a request from the applicant to increase the size of the , cafe in order to make the project viable. Mr. Buller said the applicant had proceeded in the direction they felt the Commission had indicated. He observed that the property owner of the gas station to the east has inquired about the potential possibilities for development and staff has encouraged the two property owners to coordinate and cooperate in a solution. He felt that if there is a willingness between the two property owners, the larger restaurant could occur and possibly the conversion and restoration of the old gas station. He said if the master plan for the block is expanded, then property to the east would provide another alternative .for addressing the parking deficiency. Commissioner Melcher stated he understood. He said he realized the applicant had pursued the direction from the pre-application meeting; however, he noted the applicant is now requesting a larger restaurant. He thought that before the project is cast in stone, perhaps moving the driveway now is an alternate possibility that should be considered. He said that if the applicant wants the Commission to proceed as submitted, then the Commission should act on the applicant's request. Mr. Murphy stated that the driveway location depicted on Exhibit D is the ultimate desired by the Engineering Division, but in the interim it would pose problems until the Foothill Boulevard median is constructed. He said an interim driveway further to the east was selected to avoid problems with traffic entering and exiting McDonald's across the street. Commissioner Melcher asked if the applicant would be conditioned to construct the median. Mr. Murphy replied they would be required ,.to pay a fee toward the construction. Mr. James added that CalTrans may also require them to restripe Foothill Boulevard to eliminate left-turn movements. Mr. Murphy .said the project would not be conditioned to construct a raised median because there is not sufficient right-of-way or pavement width to construct it to its ultimate configuration. Commissioner Melcher asked the difference between the requirements for this project and the night club further east on Foothill Boulevard. Mr. Murphy responded that at this location the plan calls for dual left-turn lanes from Foothill Boulevard turning onto Archibald which requires more pavement width. He said there are also properties on the corner that the applicant does not have control over from which additional dedication would be needed. Commissioner Melcher noted that the Commission was being asked to recommend landmark status for the houses and, to approve a variance and the staff's ' recommendation was to give the applicant something different from what the HPC Minutes -6- August 10, 1994 ' applicant feels is necessary on the basis of recent information so far as size and number of seats in the restaurant. He thought perhaps it would be better to take another look to see whether the area could be better planned to provide the size restaurant needed while avoiding the large discrepancy in the parking. Mr. Murphy noted that the applicant's request 'is based upon operating expenses for the cafe. He thought the Commission may wish to ask if the applicant has considered the overall economic feasibility of the project with the larger cafe or if are they looking at eliminating any of the houses. Commissioner Lumpp questioned if the master plan proposed by Commissioner Melcher should be pursued. Mr. Murphy stated that from staff's perspective, Exhibit C-2 with the driveway immediately adjacent to the cafe is the preferred location until the median is installed. Commissioner Lumpp commented that it would not make sense to approve the cafe with the size limitation recommended by staff. He questioned if it would not be best to ask the applicant to reevaluate the overall master plan and put in a driveway where House No. 3 is located even though it Would not be consistent with the median. Mr. Murphy noted that even with the removal of one of the houses, the project ' would only provide 22 parking spaces. He was not sure the parking situation would be improved by eliminating the one house and expanding the cafe. Mr. Mora said Ms. Campos is not willing to remove the house in order to place a driveway there. He felt that moving the driveway that far away from the restaurant would not work. He thought the increase in the cafe would be practically insignificant, an increase of only 4 more spaces. He felt the project as proposed is an efficient way to use the site without removing any houses as the houses form a complex with an historical value. Mr. Mora requested approval of the mid-size 1,698 square foot restaurant. Peter Ferrero, stated he is the owner of 9627 Estacia Court, Rancho Cucamonga. He said there is a wall on the south side of his property which is not on his property. He stated that drainage is a critical problem along the street and water backs up on his property whenever someone plugs up the drainage holes in the wall. He felt that if anyone backs into the wall, it will fall over. He asked that the drainage problems be considered and that a block wall be constructed between the project and the residences to the north. Vice Chairman McNiel observed that the question of separation between the development and the properties to the north had been discussed earlier and staff had suggested that a block wall be constructed. He asked• if staff had looked at the drainage issue. Mr. James said Building and Safety would look at drainage in connection with ' on-site grading and he would bring Mr. Ferrero's comments to the attention of Building and Safety personnel. HPC Minutes -7- August 10, 1994 Mr. Buller said the wall may need to be moved closer to the property line , because of the critical dimensions on-site. Mr. Mora stated that other cities have compact parking spaces. He suggested that if the City reduces parking stall size in the future, they could redesign the parking layout and should be able to add 6 to 8 more spaces. Vice Chairman McNiel commented that some years ago the City had incorporated a 35 percent ratio of compact parking because it appeared that the trend was moving toward smaller care. However, people started going back to larger cars and the City changed standards to a mid-range parking size which seems to be working. Mr. Ferrero stated that parking seems to be a problem on the entire block. He did not feel there was any reason to succumb to anything less than the normal requirements just because someone has a development plan. Vice Chairman McNiel stated that the objective of a variance within the law is to allow for unique situations and this might fall under that unique situation category because it is a long and narrow parcel. Hearing no further comments, he closed the public hearing. Commissioner Lumpp agreed that if a cafe is built, a minimum 6-foot high wall is needed to separate it from the residences to the north. He supported the 1,698 square foot cafe because he did not favor approving a smaller cafe that would fail. He felt the variance is justified in order to retain the four , houses. Commissioner Melcher stated he was not unsympathetic with saving the houses, but he felt the degree the Commission was being asked to bend over to make it happen exceeds good judgment. He felt that any place else in the City, a developer would be required to obtain property to put in a proper driveway before being allowed to proceed. He questioned the wisdom of rushing into the approval in an effort to save the four houses which he did not feel have that much history taken by themselves. He observed that in 1990 the Historic Preservation Commission had considered the possibility of an overlay district to include Estacia Court as well as these houses on Foothill Boulevard, but an overlay district had not been pursued. He recognized this proposal as a good faith effort to save the houses absent an overall plan, but he felt it was pushing too hard. He said that although he would like to see the houses saved, he could not support the project. Vice Chairman McNiel agreed with Commissioner Melcher that extreme measures were being considered, but he saw the project as an opportunity to save some of the little remaining history of the community. He supported the proposal for the 1,698 square foot restaurant along with salvage -of the houses. He noted comments had been made about plans to return the exteriors of the houses to their original state. He felt they need to be cleaned up so they do not look abandoned. He agreed that a wall is necessary to separate the commercial venture from the residences to the north. HPC Minutes -8- August 10, 1994 Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, suggested that the resolution for the variance be modified to indicate that approval would be contingent upon approval of Landmark Designation 94-02. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, to adopt the resolution recommending approval of Landmark Designation 94-02. Commissioner Melcher asked for clarification of why a landmark designation is preferred over a point of interest designation. He did not feel the buildings are in the same classification as the St. Clare of Assisi site. Mr. Murphy stated it comes down to the context of the area. He observed that the staff report stated that although none of the houses individually represent a significant architectural contribution, it is the context and setting which is characteristic of an era that is rapidly disappearing along Foothill Boulevard. He said the project was viewed as an opportunity to retain a fairly intact block from a disappearing era. Commissioner Melcher felt strongly that landmarking the houses is excessive. He said he would support a motion to create a point of interest. He felt that if the entire block develops as a whole setting, then perhaps the entirety would be worthy of landmark designation. Mr. Murphy noted that two Commissioners had expressed desires to rehabilitate the structures to bring them back to the era they were constructed. He asked if it would be their intent to include that as a condition of the landmark designation. ' Commissioner Lumpp and Chairman McNiel agreed that was their intent. Commissioner Melcher did not believe that would make them worthy of landmark status absent the rest of the block. The motion was revised to include a modification to restore/rehabilitate the houses consistent with the architectural style and details of the era of construction to the satisfaction of the City Planner. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: LUMPP, MCNIEL NOES: COMMISSIONERS: MELCHER ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, TOLSTOY -carried ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 8:25 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -9- August 10, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 27, 1994"-- Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that a letter had been received from the applicant for Item A, requesting that the matter be continued for two weeks. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel, carried 5-0, to adopt the minutes of July 13, 1994. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 94-02 CAMPOS - Consideration of an application to designate 9618, 9626, 9634, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard as either an Historic Landmark or an Historic Point of Interest - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10, and 11. (Continued from July 13, 1994) Chairman Barker indicated that the public hearing remained open from the previous meeting. There were no public comments at this time. HPC Minutes -1- July 27, 1994 Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNie1, to continue Landmark ' Designation 94-02 to August 10, 1994. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS Commissioner Melcher stated that he and Commissioner Tolstoy are members of the Historic/Cultural Resource Mitigation Task Force, which is attempting to determine how to provide for mitigation where historic structures must be demolished. He said the task force had suggested that the Planning Commission arrange a meeting with the Etiwanda Historic Society to discuss their respective goals and better ways to work together. Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that if the Commission agreed that such a meeting would be of benefit, staff be directed to work with the Society to ' schedule a joint meeting. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that a workshop setting would be better than scheduling such a meeting as part of a regular Commission meeting. Chairman Barker requested that such a meeting be scheduled from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. prior to a Commission meeting. Commissioner Lumpp asked if the gas station adjacent to the Campos property had been designated as an historic property. Brad Buller, City Planner, replied that it is on the survey list but has not been designated as the property owner has not requested such a designation. Commissioner Lumpp asked if the City could initiate such designation. Mr. Buller replied that the policy has been that the City will not initiate such designation over the owner's objection. Commissioner Lumpp suggested that staff contact the owner to see if there is interest. Mr. Buller replied that he had previously spoken to the owner, who had ' indicated she was not interested in pursuing designation at this time. HPC Minutes -2- July 27, 1994 ' ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Melcher, to adjourn. 7:10 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Reep_ectfully submitted, /Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -3- July 27, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 13, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the city of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:34 p.m. The meeting was held in the council chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Laura Bonaccorsi, Landscape Designer; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Rick Gomez, Community Development Director; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil ' Engineer; Karen McGuire-Emery, Associate Park Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to approve the minutes of June 22, 1994. PUBLIC HEARINGS LANDMARK DESIGNATION 94-02 CAMPOS - Consideration of an application to designate 9.618, 9626, 9634, and 9642 Foothill Boulevard as either an Historic Landmark or an Historic Point of Interest - APN: 208-153-08, 09, 10, and 11. ' Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. HPC Minutes -1- July 13, 1994 Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments. Brad Buller, City Planner, observed that the applicant was not present and stated that it was staff's understanding that the applicant was going to be present. He suggested the Commission may wish to recess to the Planning Commission meeting and return to this item if the applicant subsequently arrived. Chairman Barker agreed that would be the best course of action. Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, carried 5-0, to recess the meeting. x x x x x 7:40 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission recessed. 8:20 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission reconvened. x x x x x Mr. Buller stated that the applicant was still not present for Landmark Designation 94-02, and staff had been unable to contact them by telephone. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. _ Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Landmark ' Designation 94-02 to July 27, 1994. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. x x x x x ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by NcNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to adjourn. 8:20 p.m. - This Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -2- July 13, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES. Regular Meeting June 22, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Matt Everling, Planning Intern; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary * r r r ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the Historic/Cultural Resource Mitigation Program Task Force met on June 21, 1994, and began discussions regarding mitigation policy. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-0-1 with McNiel abstaining, to adopt the minutes of May 11, 1994. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Melcher, carried 4-0-0-1 with McNiel abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of May 11, 1994. • r r PUBLIC HEARINGS HPC Minutes -1- June 22, 1994 A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 94-01 - RODRIGUEZ - Consideration of the addition of a mechanical wheelchair lift to the east side of the building known historically as the Klusman House, a designated Local Landmark, located at 8841 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 207-211-13. Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Melcher noted the tenants are in the process of moving in. He thought that in order to make the door wide enough to comply with the Americana with Disabilities Act (ADA) , it will probably require that the door opening be enlarged. He wanted to be assured that the widening will be consistent with the architecture of the house as stucco work will be needed in order to create the bull nose finish where the plaster meets the door frame. He stated that since exterior stucco work will thus be necessary, he preferred that a free-standing L-shaped stucco screen wall be constructed to conceal the access ramp rather than relying on shrubbery. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Gil Rodriguez, Jr. , owner, 739 North Mountain Avenue, Upland, presented before and after photographs. He asked if a trellis could be installed in lieu of the stucco wall proposed by Commissioner Melcher. Commissioner Melcher explained that he would prefer a wall about 3-1/2 feet above the landing, which should conceal the mechanism. He thought it need not be attached to the house but should have the same finish and appearance as the house. Mr. Rodriguez Stated that during the renovation process, he used his best judgment in selecting colors and tried to have everything as original as possible. He noted that Condition No. 1 requires that the doors and windows be restored to their original color and stated he did not know that color. He stated the windows had been rusted and the wooden doors and window frames had all been rotted out with peeling paint. He said they had selected a color which they felt would be beneficial to the structure. He commented he had even called the daughter of the builder but she did not know what the original color had been; she only remembered that it was dark. Chairman Barker noted the house was built in 1928. He asked what staff specifically had in mind. Ms. Luttrell said that staff merely recalled that they were originally dark and now they are painted white. She felt staff could work with the applicant to determine a more appropriate color. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner Melcher understood the requirements of designation on the house, but he suggested the repainting could be done following occupancy. He noted that Mr. Rodriguez has just done extensive rehabilitation and repainting would take a lot of time and money. , HPC Minutes -2- June 22, 1994 ' Commissioner Tolstoy congratulated the Rodriguez family for the restoration. He thought it is a wonderful part of the City's history. He felt the screen wall would be a good idea. He had no comment on the color. Commissioner McNiel noted that the United Methodist Church has a wheelchair lift on the side of the building facing Archibald. He stated that when the lift is not in service, it is flush with the ground and has a wrought iron railing around it so that it is rather unobtrusive. He did not object to the proposed screen wall so long as it is done to compliment the house. He observed the property had been before the Commission before as part of a larger master planned development. He said currently no one knows what the original colors were and he suggested it might be better to defer changing the color and tie it in with the balance of the development when it is built. He thought the applicant had done a fine job of bringing the house up to its current state. Commissioner Lumpp agreed with the screen wall proposal. He felt it would certainly be more appropriate than any wood lattice. He agreed the applicant had done an exemplary job of rehabilitating an eyesore and suggested deferring the painting for a period of time, perhaps three to six months. Chairman Barker felt it would be of questionable importance to exhaustively research the original color of the paint. He obsesrved the building had been shabby and unpainted for a long period of time. He suggested deferring the repainting and having the applicant work with staff to select an appropriate ' color. He agreed a small stucco wall would be appropriate. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the screen wall is important not only from the standpoint of the view from Vineyard, but also to help shield a user during windstorms. Commissioner Melcher felt the change in door and window frame color could be delayed until repainting is necessary. Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution approving Landmark Alteration Permit 94-01 with modifications to require a small stucco screen wall by the wheelchair lift, to require the finish work around the new door be consistent with the existing architecture, and to allow the applicant to work with staff regarding the color and schedule for repainting of the door and window frames. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Mr. Rodriguez thanked the Planning staff and both the old and .new Historic Preservation Commissioners for their time and cooperation. HPC Minutes -3- June 22, 1994 PUBLIC COMMENTS , There were no public comments at this time. x x x x x COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, to adjourn. 7:25 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, 'Brad Bull ear Secretary 1 A HPC Minutes -4- June 22, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 8, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for June 8, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully �submitted, Brad Buller �^'(✓ Secretary i HPC Minutes -1- June 8, 1994 -' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 25, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic •Preservation Commission Meeting for May 25, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad BullLTr Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -1- May 25, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting May 11, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 9:30 p.m. The meeting was held in the De Anza Room at the Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Larry MCNiel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner ' COMMISSION BUSINESS A. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ORIENTATION Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, led the orientation which continued the review of the history of the City and the Historic Preservation Commission; the basic duties and role of the Commission; established Historic Preservation Commission programs, policies, and procedures; and CEQA. A question and answer session followed the presentation during which the Commissioners and staff discussed a range of current and future issues facing ' the Commission r • fr ► w ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 10:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Adjourned Minutes -1- May 11, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 11, 1994 ' Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Larry McNiel STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Matt Everling, Planning Intern; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner ANNOUNCEMENTS Chairman Barker presented a resolution of commendation to Associate Planner Anthea Hartig. * • � r w APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Henderson, carried 4-0-1 with McNiel absent, to approve the minutes of March 9, 1994. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. * * + w r ' COMMISSION BUSINESS HPC Minutes -1- May 11, 1994 A. DISCUSSION OF FUTURE FUNDING RESOURCES FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. ' Commissioner Tolstoy expressed sadness that funds cannot be found because he felt there are some very important buildings in the community which are in a state of decay and will be lost if something is not done. He stated he had recently noticed that a number of the bungalows on Foothill Boulevard between Hellman and Archibald Avenues have been boarded up. Mr. Henderson noted that adaptive reuse of single family houses in commercial areas is generally economically unfeasible because of the normal development fees and improvements costs. He commented that preliminary plans have been submitted regarding the bungalows Commissioner Tolstoy mentioned. He said that normal street widening will severely impact the historic nature of the property and the severe cost will probably make the project economically unfeasible. He suggested that the Commission may want to recommend to the City Council that development fees or normal improvement requirements be waived or phased for projects that are found to carry out the goals and objectives of the General Plan. Chairman Barker asked if staff had done a study on such an approach. Mr. Henderson replied not specifically for that project. He thought the houses in question may be a good project to generate a report on. He noted another project under review involves the Klusman House at the southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Vineyard Avenue, which is eligible for the ' National Register of Historic buildings. He stated the owner has been fixing up the building for use as an office. He said that normal off-site improvements would include Foothill Boulevard but the applicant has indicated the project will not pencil out. He suggested staff could provide an analysis of the cost of improvements versus the cost of making the structure usable. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if Mr. Henderson was suggesting that the Commissioners approach City Council independently for each project or with a policy which might include any building. Mr. Henderson suggested an analysis on a project-by-project basis or a recommendation that when a structure is to be reused but not expanded, the fees and improvements be adjusted or deleted. Chairman Barker felt the Commission should receive an analysis of the options. He noted the Commission is currently looking for sources of funding and alternatives. Commissioner Lumpp asked if the City has any type of program established for historic projects and if there are any federal grants available if the City has such a program in place. Mr. Henderson replied that the National Trust has competitive grants for individuals on specific projects but the funding is limited, structures must be eligible for National Register listing, and the property owner must HPC Minutes -2- May 11, 1994 cooperate. He noted that private funds from corporations or individuals or individual endowments are also possible sources of funding. He said generally non-profit organizations go after such funding. He noted that the Methodist Church on Archibald is currently trying to secure funding for seismic retrofitting and government funds cannot be used because of the separation of church and state. He said the City can however pledge technical support to try to steer them toward private funding. commissioner Lumpp suggested that ISTEA funds could be used to improve streets which are adjacent to historic structures. Mr. Henderson replied that was correct but that currently ISTEA funds are pledged for the Metrolink Station and the extension of Milliken from Arrow Route to Foothill Boulevard. He felt that with the limitation of funds, the City must become more creative and the public must be involved. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if there had been any follow-up to see if either the local phone company or a national long distance company would help with the Fisher House. Mr. Henderson replied that GTE has a program but it is for non-profit organizations. He stated many corporations will fund preservation efforts for non-profit organizations, but not for government entities. He said he understood the Etiwanda Historical Society has been in touch with GTE but has not filed an application. ' Chairman Barker requested that staff provide an executive summary of the options proposed when time is available. He felt it would be appropriate for the Commission to then determine if a formal recommendation should be made to the City Council, particularly with respect to the non-expansion of a facility. He expressed frustration with the lack of money and hoped the City could work with the Etiwanda Historical Society to try to secure some private funding. Commissioner Melcher felt the City does not have a great wealth of historic structures and the commission should consider this analysis as important and urgent in order to create a comprehensive list of suggestions, including City acquiescence and City financial involvement, and forward those suggestions to the Council with a recommendation that such items be pursued with diligence. He thought it is all too easy to let the resources slip away when there is no activity. He wanted the City Council to know that the Historic Preservation Commission feels this is an important matter and should not be neglected. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed. Commissioner Lumpp felt the Commission needs a program outlining the goals and objectives tied in with a strong statement to the City Council that the Commission is concerned and does not want to let things slide. Chairman Barker felt the Commission should be as specific as possible with outlining means by which the goals can be accomplished. He suggested the report include specific houses or projects where the techniques could be used. HPC Minutes -3- May 11, 1994 Brad Buller, City Planner, noted that the Historic Preservation Commission would be adjourning to a training workshop this evening. He noted that the ' previous Commission had gone through an exhaustive process of establishing priorities which had been forwarded to the new Commission. He observed that the previous Commission found the education of the community to be a high priority along with funding. He felt that getting the community involved would help with reaching the goals. He suggested the matter be further discussed in the workshop. Commissioner Melcher thought that the Ledig House rehabilitation had been financed from budgeted funds established through the Redevelopment Agency (RDA) for the purpose of rehabilitating historic structures to ready them for sale. He understood there had been changes in the redevelopment law and requested that staff get a definitive opinion if such a program is Still allowable. He suggested that when the Ledig House is sold and the funds are available that the funds be reused for a similar project if it is still permissible. He requested that the task force on mitigation fees be convened as soon as possible. He thought such fees should apply to all development within the community if saving of historic structures is determined to be a community goal. Commissioner Melcher thought that significant RDA funds are currently tied up in two historic properties with the idea of making them available for housing purposes. He suggested that the City carefully examine the reality of such a project and the achievability in terms of the time frame, and if such programs could not be achieved within the next 5 to 10 years, the City consider disposing of those properties to allow the funds to work now. ADJOURNMENT ' Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-1 with McNiel absent, to adjourn. 7:32 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned to a workshop immediately following the Planning Commission meeting in the De Anza Room regarding Historic Preservation Commission orientation. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -4- May 11, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 27, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for April 27, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 1 HPC Minutes -1- April 27, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 13, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for April 13, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -1- April 13, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 23, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for March 23, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Rea ectfully submitted, w Brad Buller Secretary 1 1 HPC Minutes -1- March 23, 1994 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 9, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Larry McNiel STAFF PRESENT: Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer; Brad Buller, City Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Paul Rougeau, Traffic Engineer; Gail Sanchez, ' Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Anthea Hartig, Principal Planner, announced that May 8 through May 14 is National Historic Preservation Week. She observed that in the past the City has done a range of activities. She asked that the Commissioners forward any suggestions for activities and stated that if any Commissioner would like to volunteer time, they should contact her. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 with McNiel absent, to adopt the minutes of February 9, 1994. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 94-01 - ST. CLARE OF ASSISI - A proposal to designate the Ernst Mueller Family Home, a Potential Local Landmark located at 6563 ' East Avenue, as a local Landmark - APN: 227-071-17. HPC Minutes -1- March 9, 1994 Commissioner Melcher questioned if, the proposed church buildings and site ' layout will be able to respect the historic structure and trees. Ms. Hartig replied that the church had submitted a Conditional Use Permit application and the layout is sensitive to the site. She thought careful site planning and good coordination with CalTrane for preservation of the windrows would allow for successful development. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if any of the outbuildings were included in the application. Ms. Hartig responded that the CalTrane historians did not find any of the existing outbuildings to be sufficient for historical designation and City staff agreed with those conclusions. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. Elizabeth Habecker, St. Clare of Assisi, 6563 East Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that one of the attractions of the location was the historic nature. She felt that, with careful planning, they could successfully establish their worship space and retain the character of the location. She remarked their intent is to keep the house as the centerpiece for development of the property. She said the initial building will have gray siding with white trim so as to not create an intrusion. She reported they were searching for an alternate surface for the parking area. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. ' Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Melcher, to adopt the resolution recommending approval of Landmark Designation 94-01. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. � + it • x COMMISSION BUSINESS B. STATUS OF HISTORIC/CULTURAL RESOURCE MITIGATION PROGRAM Brad Buller, City Planner, referenced the report presented on the history and status of the program. He invited the Commissioners to assist in development of the program. He noted that if the Commissioners decided to set up a task ' force, staff would develop a mission statement and proposed time frame for the task force. HPC Minutes -2- March 9, 1994 ' Commissioner Melcher felt the material should be updated to reflect the Planning Commission's assumption of the Historic Preservation Commission duties. He expressed a desire to be included in the task force. Commissioner Tolstoy also volunteered. Chairman Barker appointed Commissioners Melcher and Tolstoy to the task force. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that a request be made to the City Council to appoint a Council Member to the task force. Commissioners Melcher and Lumpp agreed it would help to have an advocate from the Council. Chairman Barker requested that staff prepare a memo for his signature inviting City Council participation. Commissioner Melcher noted that the report on the status of the Cultural Resource Mitigation Program referred to the work program and lack of staff to accomplish all items on the work program. He acknowledged that the observance of National Historic Preservation Week is important, but he felt the City's participation should perhaps be limited to a resolution in order to avoid diverting valuable staff time. ' Chairman Barker directed that staff should prepare a resolution and agreed staff must be careful with the use of its time. Commissioner Tolstoy requested that an item be added to the next agenda for a discussion regarding financing some of the things the Historic Preservation Commission would like to accomplish. He questioned if the money from the Ledig House sale would be available for historic preservation purposes. Mr. Buller said that when the item had originally been before the Historic Preservation Commission, there had been some discussion that the sale proceeds may go into an historic preservation fund but it had not been confirmed that that would be the case. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the Commission should, discuss the matter and request that the money to be made available for preservation of additional historic buildings which seem to be deteriorating in the City, including possibly moving some to another location. He thought the money should be kept working toward more preservation rather than going into another fund. Chairman Barker agreed the subject should be added to a forthcoming agenda. w * ■ ■ w HPC Minutes -3- March 9, 1994 ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, carried 4-0-1 with McNiel ' absent, to adjourn. 7:20 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -4- March 9, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 23, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for February 23, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bul er Secretary HPC Minutes -1- February 23, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 9, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel (arrived 7:53 p.m. ) , John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary x x x x x ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, observed that the applicant for Item A was not in the audience and stated that staff had made an unsuccessful attempt to contact him. x x x x x APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 with McNiel absent, to adopt the minutes of January 12, 1994. x x x x x PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 93-02 - ROBERT FLOCKER - A request to demolish the Norton-Fisher House, a designated local Landmark, located at 7165 Etiwanda Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga - APN: 227-131-23. (Continued from December 8, 1993) HPC Minutes -1- February 9, 1994 Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Lumpp, to recess the Historic Preservation Commission meeting to the conclusion of the Planning Commission ' meeting. Brad Buller, City Planner, remarked that there were members of the public in the audience who may wish to give testimony. He suggested the Commission may wish to hear that testimony. Commissioners Melcher and Lumpp withdrew their motion. Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. She requested that the Commission find that the application is incomplete without an Environmental impact Report (EIR) focusing on the impact of the proposed demolition. Commissioner Melcher noted that a previous staff report had indicated an EIR was not necessary because of possible mitigations. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, stated that, based on case law, legal counsel does not feel there are possible mitigations without an EIR per the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) . Commissioner Melcher stated he was aware there have been some recent changes to CEQA. He believed the need for a focused EIR may cost the. applicant $15,000 to $20,000 in order to determine that the application is complete. He suspected that the applicant would stop pursuing the application and allow the house to deteriorate and become a hazard. He thought there should be some ' productive way to save historic houses. Me. Hartig stated that staff is continuing to pursue other alternatives by working with groups and there may be an opportunity to apply for a grant. Commissioner Melcher was troubled that the staff report stated the Redevelopment Agency had indicated that RDA funds for preserving the house were unlikely. He noted that RDA funds were used to purchase an abandoned packing house and abandoned winery. He asked why funds could not be used for preserving this house. Mr. Buller stated there are currently other programs in progress and RDA had determined this was not a priority. He said staff is currently pursuing other avenues. Commissioner Lumpp asked if the applicant is requesting demolition because of pending development. Ms. Hartig responded that no development is proposed at this time. She observed that the house has been vacant and deteriorating for. a number of years. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. HPC Minutes -2- February 9, 1994 Jan Sutton, 9441 Lomita Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, presented a letter regarding ' the history of the community. She stated houses are important to our history. She requested that the application be denied and staff be directed to continue working with the applicant to find a reasonable resolution. Marilyn Anderson, 754 East 6th Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated her great grandmother had lived in the house. She said she had contacted staff and indicated she is working to obtain funds from General Telephone. She said she had spoken with Mr. George from the telephone company and he implied there may be funds available to restore, move, and refurbish the house. She suggested she may sell note cards with a sketch of the house to help fund restoration. Jim. Frost, 12996 Victoria, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had been the Chairman of the Etiwanda Specific Plan Advisory Committee. He commented his great grandparents had also lived in the house. He felt the real issue to be the importance of saving the house for the community. Jim Banks, 10788 civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that the applicant had put himself in the position of having a deteriorated house by his own doing. He objected to the benign neglect of allowing the house to slip into disrepair and then using that disrepair as an excuse to tear the house down. He felt the house is one of the top five structures of historical significance for the community. He requested that the Commission urge the City Council to take initiative for saving the house. He feared the house will be destroyed if nothing is done. He suggested the City buy the property and use the land as a home for other historic structures which must be moved ' from their present location, such as from the path of the I-30 freeway. He noted that real estate prices are the lowest they have been in a number of years. Marsha Banks, Rural Route 2, Hippard Ranch Road, Ranch Cucamonga, stated she is a board member of the Etiwanda Historical Society and the former Chair of the Historic Preservation Commission. She felt that in addition to the historic structure, the City has a unique opportunity to save an historic area. She noted there are three other historic structures in the area. Mr. Buller noted that if the Commission chose to take the action of denying the application without prejudice, Mr. Flocker would have the opportunity to appeal to City Council or return to the .Historic Preservation Commission with other options. He stated such an action would not preclude staff from continuing to work with the applicant and trying to find a way to save the house. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing. Commissioner 'Melcher thought the previous Historic Preservation Commission had worked on a proposed fee structure to create a fund to enable- the City to carry out some historic preservation projects. He asked if such a fund had ever been set up. Mr. Buller asked if Commissioner Melcher was referring to an effort • to ' establish a consistent, defined mitigation schedule for projects which have impacts. HPC Minutes -3- February 9, 1994 commissioner Melcher stated he had originally suggested such a schedule be set up for uniformity in requesting mitigations. He thought the Historic ' Preservation Commission had been trying to evaluate if such a program could be set up. He noted that in this case the applicant was trying to deal with the process and appears unable to achieve what the applicant feels he needs. He stated that in another case, an historic structure was demolished because the owner circumvented the process and other structures have also been lost after falling into disrepair. He thought the City might be able to start acquiring properties as they start to deteriorate if some sort of fund were established. He supported Mr. Banks' suggestion to acquire the property to create a park for other historic structures. Mr. Buller said there had been discussions to try to set a schedule to determine how to value mitigations which might create a resource. He said the project is currently on hold and could be resurrected. He suggested one or two of the Commissioners could assist in the preparation of the policy. Chairman Barker asked who would like to assist. Commissioner Melcher said he would be very interested. .Chairman Barker felt that all of the Commissioners would be interested. Commissioner Tolstoy said he would be interested. He requested that a summary be presented at the next meeting on the background and the work that has been done. It was the consensus of the Commission that a report be presented at the next ' meeting. Commissioner Melcher hoped that community members could also assist. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed that community members who had participated in the discussions would be an asset. He supported Mr. Banks' idea of acquiring the property and using it for relocating other displaced historic structures. Commissioner Tolstoy observed that this was the second hearing that the applicant had not attended and he expressed sorrow that the applicant had not been present to hear the testimony. He thought the Commission should deny the application. Commissioner Lumpp felt the applicant had not demonstrated a willingness to work with the City. He agreed the property should be preserved. Commissioner Melcher stated he understood a denial would not mean a focused EIR would be required. He asked if the applicant could reapply. Mr. Hanson said the denial was not on the full merits of the application, merely on the lack of an EIR. He noted that the applicant could reapply immediately. 1 HPC Minutes -4- February 9, 1994 Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Toletoy, to adopt the resolution denying without prejudice Landmark Alteration Permit 93-02. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MELCHER, TOLSTOY NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MCNIEL -carried x x x x x Commissioner McNiel arrived. B. . LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-05 - GREG AND KRISTINE MICHAELS - A proposal t0 designate the Marne's Garage and Filling Station, located at 12906 Base Line Road, as a local landmark - APN: 227-131-17. (Continued from January 26, 1994) Chairman Barker observed that the applicant had withdrawn the application and no action was necessary. x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. ' COMMISSION BUSINESS Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, announced that a California Preservation Society Workshop was scheduled on Friday, February 11 at Claremont. x x x x x ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 5-0, to adjourn. 7:59 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -5- February 9, 1994 �. CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 26, 1994 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for January 26, 1994, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary x 1 HPC Minutes -1- January 26, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 12, 1994 Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil ' Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Planning Department Secretary , ANNOUNCEMENTS Mr. Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that the Commission had a copy of a letter before them from Mr. Greg Michaels, the applicant for Item A, indicating his desire for a continuance on his project until February 9, 1994. Mr. Buller then asked the Commission when would be a good time to conclude their Historic Preservation education seminar. Commissioner McNiel stated that it was invaluable training and he wished to conclude the program. Commissioner Tolstoy and Melcher concurred with Commissioner McNiel. Mr. Buller suggested concluding the training on the next light agenda the Commission has. He explained that staff could spend 1 to l 1/2 hours reviewing the material covered during the first two sessions and then complete the program with field observations and visits to local historic features. Mr. Buller stated that staff would look for the next available agenda and set ' the training for a public workshop. The Commission concurred with Mr. Buller's statements. HPC Minutes -1- January 12, 1994 MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Toletoy, adopted 3-0-2, with Barker and Lumpp abstaining, to adopt the minutes of October 13, 1993. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, adopted 4-0-1, with Toletoy abstaining, to adopt the minutes of December 8, 1993. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-05 - GREG AND KRISTINE MICHAELS - A proposal to designate the Marne's Garage and Filling Station, located at at 12906 Base Line Road, as a local landmark - APN: 227-131-17. Chairman Barker opened the public hearing and continued the item to the February 9, 1994 meeting, per a letter from the applicant, Mr. Gregory Michaels. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. w a • . . COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission Business. • • • rr r ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, to adjourn. 7:06 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Bul er Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -2- January 12, 1994 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 22, 1993 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for December 22, 1993, was canceled for lack of quorum. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -1- December 22, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 8, 1993 Mayor Stout called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. in conjunction with the Planning commission. The meeting was held in the Council chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Mayor Stout led in the pledge of allegiance. Mayor Stout then administered the oath of office to Commissioners Barker, Lumpp, McNiel, and Melcher and announced that Commissioner Tolstoy had already taken the oath of office. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher ABSENT: Peter Tolstoy STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal ' Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. MINUTES Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Melcher, adopted 2-0-1-2 with Tolstoy absent and Barker and Lumpp abstaining, to adopt the minutes of November 10, 1993. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 93-02 - ROBERT FLOCKER - A request to demolish the Norton-Fisher House, a designated local Landmark, located at 7165 Etiwanda Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga - APN: 227-131-23. (Continued from November 10, 1993) HPC Minutes -1- December 8, 1993 Chairman Barker observed that the applicant had requested that the item be ' continued to February 9, 1994. He stated that the public hearing was still open and asked for public testimony from anyone who would be unable to attend on February 9. There was no testimony. Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by MCNiel, to continue Landmark Alteration Permit 93-02 to February 9, 1994. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried NEW BUSINESS B. MILLS ACT CONTRACT 93-03 - ROBERT AND BARBARA YELLEN - Review of a request to enter into a Mills Act for the restoration of the Goerlitz House, located at 6156 Hellman Avenue - APN: 1062-381-08. C. MILLS ACT CONTRACT 93-04 - ROY AND MINA LA PERRY - Review of a request to enter into a Mills Act Contract for the restoration of the Albert House, located at 10323 19th Street - APN: 202-201-54. Anthea Hartig presented the staff reports. Commissioner Melcher asked if improvements were expected in a certain year. ' Ms. Hartig responded that a listing of tentative improvements is included with each Mills Act Contract. Commissioner Melcher asked if improvements are required as a condition of granting a Mills Act Contract. Me. Hartig replied that improvements are necessary. She said the law does not require that the improvements be listed in the contract, but the City has included them to give an idea of what the applicant proposes. She said the contract is reviewed each year and is ongoing, so that the listing is subject to revisions. Commissioner Melcher asked if staff was satisfied that the listing included with Mills Act Contract 93-04 would bring the property into compliance with the conditions of approval imposed on the recently approved Conditional Use Permit for the property. Me. Hartig responded affirmatively. Commissioner Lumpp asked if a Mills Act Contract would be attached to title for the property so that if the property were sold, the new owner would know about the contract and be bound by it. Me. Hartig confirmed that it becomes part of the title. ' HPC Minutes -2- December 8, 1993 e a � 1 Chairman Barker asked for public comment on either project. There was none. Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to recommend approval of Mille Act Contract 93-03. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried Motion: Moved by Melcher, seconded by McNiel, to recommend approval of Mille Act Contract 93-04. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: TOLSTOY -carried * • w w w PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission Business. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, to adjourn. 7:24 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. fRespectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -3- December 8, 1993 ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 24, 1993 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for November 24, 1993, was canceled for lack of quorum. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 1 HPC Minutes -1- November 24, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA 1 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 10, 1993 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy, Wendy Vallette (arrived 8:09 p.m. ) ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that an amended proposed resolution was before the Commissioners. He also observed that the applicant was not present and suggested that the Commission may wish to recess to the Planning Commission in case the applicant was delayed and showed up later. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 with Vallette absent, to adopt the minutes of October 13, 1993. w The Historic Preservation Commission recessed from 7:05 p.m. to 8:48 p.m. 1 HPC Minutes -1- November 10, 1993 A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 93-02 - ROBERT FLOCKER - A request to demolish the Norton-Fisher House, a designated local Landmark, located at 7165 ' Etiwanda Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga - APN: 227-131-23. (Continued from September 8, 1993) Chairman McNiel observed that the hearing was still open and that the applicant had still not arrived. Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Chitiea, to continue Landmark Alteration Permit 93-02 to December 8, 1993. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY, VALLETTE NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried x x x • x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. x x x x x COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business at this time. ' x x x x x ADJOURNMENT 8:51 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -2- November 10, 1993 ' ' CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting . October 27, 1993 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for October 27, 1993, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Huller Secretary HPC Minutes -1- October 27, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting October 13, 1993 Chairman McNiel called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 10:15 p.m. The meeting was held in the Rains Room at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy, Wendy Vallette ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner x x x x x COMMISSION BUSINESS A. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ORIENTATION (Session 21 Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, led the orientation which continued the review of the history of the City and the Historic Preservation Commission; the basic duties and role of the Commission; established Historic Preservation commission programs, policies, and procedures; and CEQA. A question and answer session followed the presentation during which the Commissioners and staff discussed a range of current and future issues facing the Commission. x x x x x ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 11:35 p.m. JRespectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Adjourned Minutes -1- October 13, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 13, 1993 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: Wendy Vallette STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary x x x x x ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. x x x x x APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-1-1 with Melcher abstaining and Vallette absent, to adopt the minutes of September B, 1993, as amended. x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. x x x x COMMISSION BUSINESS HPC Minutes -1- October 13, 1993 commissioner Tolstoy asked for an update on the Route 66 meeting. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that Commissioner Valletta, Associate Planner Anthea Hartig and City Treasurer Jim Frost had attended the meeting. He noted it was the first of many meetings to occur across the country along R..� Route 66 in order to formulate plans for a recommendation to Congress as to what type of recognition should be given to the highway. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Melcher, carried 4-0-1 with Valletta absent, to adjourn. 7:07 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned to an orientation workshop immediately following a Planning Commission workshop to be held following the regular Planning Commission meeting. Respectfully submitted, ABufler Secretary HPC Minutes -2- October 13, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 22, 1993 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for September 22, 1993, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -1- September 22, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA • ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 8, 1993 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy, Wendy Vallette ABSENT: John Melcher STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Steve Ross, Assistant Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that former Historic Preservation Commissioner Gene Billings had passed away. Chairman McNiel observed that Mr. Billings had also been the City's first Fire Chief. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 with Melcher absent, to adopt the minutes of August 11, 1993. A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 93-02 - ROBERT FLOCKER - A request to demolish the Norton-Fisher House, a designated local Landmark, located at 7165 Etiwanda Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga - APN: 227-131-23. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report and showed current photographs of the interior and exterior of the house. He noted the ' Commission had just been handed a letter from the applicant. HPC Minutes -1- September 8, 1993 t Chairman McNiel noted that the staff report recommended that the matter be ' continued for 30 to 60 days to have the applicant pursue other options or provide additional information. He opened the public hearing. Robert Flocker, owner, requested that the Commission seriously consider his demolition request and the letter he had presented this evening. He stated he wished to demolish the house because there had been a tremendous amount of vandalism to the house during the last five years since the City had declared it an historic landmark. He said most recently vandals had knocked the chimneys down to the roof line. He said vandals had also entered through the crawl space and knocked holes in the lathe and plaster. He stated he had made every effort to try to secure the windows and doors. He felt the house is not safe and presents a hazard. He indicated his family had owned the property since the 1950s and he had lived there as a child. Chairman McNiel noted that staff had suggested a continuance for 30 to 60 days to allow time to pursue other options. Mr. Flocker responded that he is concerned about liability and he felt it is fortunate that no one has been hurt up to this point. Jim Frost, 12996 Victoria, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had not had an opportunity to review the letter presented by Mr. Flocker this evening. He requested an opportunity to read the letter before a decision is made. He hoped that there would not be additional vandalism caused by publicity that the house in abandoned and vacant. He commented that John Todd Morris (a cousin of Mary Todd Lincoln) and Mary Ellen Joyner (a great, great ' granddaughter of James Adams and great granddaughter of Samuel Adams) had rented the house in 1902. He expressed a desire to retain the structure, hopefully on its existing site and noted that the house may be eligible for national recognition. He felt the house is extremely important also because it is one of only a few victorian homes left in the community and he noted the house's importance had been acknowledged in the Etiwanda Specific Plan. He thought a continuance of 30 to 60 days to consider options would be proper. Jan Sutton, 9441 Lomita Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she owned a house which had just recently been declared a local landmark. She commented that the community started out very small and structures as old as the Norton- Fisher house are rare in the community. She thought it may not have taken a great deal of effort to have kept the property habitable and said that Mr. Flocker's main concern appears to be economics. She felt the house and the area have a lot of history for the community and requested a continuance to try to save the house for future generations. Marsha Banks, Rural Route 2, Rancho Cucamonga, presented a letter from the Board of Directors of the Etiwanda Historical Society which stated that the house is one of the five most important historical structures in Etiwanda. Melicent Arner, 6353 Emerald Street, Rancho Cucamonga, felt that the house and the area are part of the soul of the community. HPC Minutes -2- September 8, 1993 Jim Banks, 10788 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was greatly ' troubled by the non-benign neglect of the property. He said that Mr. Flocker had chosen to abandon the house and not build a fence around it. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy felt the historical significance of the house should be preserved. He noted the first telephone switchboard in the community operated from the house. He commented that the victorian architecture with its embellishments is seldom seen today. He thought everything possible should be done to prevent the demise of the structure. He favored allowing more time for pursuing solutions. Commissioner Chitiea felt that the house is important in the context of local history. She commented that the community has lost part of its history as one by one similar structures have been lost. She remarked that the charm of most towns and communities is manifested in the older structures. She felt the house embodies unique architectural and historic features important to the community and its future. Commissioner Vallette agreed. She asked that staff explore opportunities with " the Redevelopment Agency and the Etiwanda Historical Society. Chairman McNiel felt the area is essentially a new community and its history is fading. He felt it would be tragic to lose something as critical to that history as this house. He acknowledged it may be burdensome to a small ' landowner, but he felt there should be a way to preserve the house for the future. Brad Buller, City Planner, suggested that the public hearing be reopened and the matter be continued. He stated that Mr. Flocker had been cooperative in allowing staff to inspect the premises and he expressed hope that Mr. Flocker would meet with staff to look for solutions. Chairman McNiel reopened the public hearing. Commissioner Tolstoy noted there may be alternatives that the Historic Preservation Commissioners were unaware of. He requested that staff advise what options are available. He felt it would be important for Mr. Flocker to participate. Mr. Buller indicated he would be willing to keep the Commissioners informed. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if any projects were being considered in the near future or if there was a potential purchaser for the site. Mr. Flocker stated nothing is pending at this time and his main concern is liability. Motion: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Tolstoy, to continue Landmark Alteration Permit 93-02 to November 10, 1993. Motion carried by the following vote: HPC Minutes -3- September 8, 1993 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY, VALLETTE NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ' ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MELCHER -carried Chairman McNiel stated he wanted to do everything possible to retain the structure. He offered to help secure the house. PUBLIC COMMENTS Jim Frost, 12996 Victoria, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he was sorry to hear of Gene Billings' death. He commented that incorporation of the city would have been tougher without Mr. Billings' technical expertise. Mr. Frost noted that the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin had announced a meeting on September 13, 1993, with the National Park Service to discuss options for Route 66 and those options would be presented to Congress. He requested that the City be represented at the meeting. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no additional Commission business'. w x • * w Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Vallette, carried 4-0-1 with Melcher ' absent, to adjourn. 7:53 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, .A��� Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -4- September 8, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting August 25, 1993 The Adjourned Commission Orientation Meeting of August 25, 1993, was canceled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary HPC Minutes -1- August 25, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 25, 1993 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for August 25, 1993, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -1- August 25, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 11, 1993 ' Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy, Wendy Vallette ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer; Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, ' Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements. APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Chitiea, seconded by Vallette, carried 5-0, to adopt the minutes of July 14, 1993. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business. HPC Minutes -1- August 11, 1993 ADJOURNMENT ' MOTION: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Tolstoy, to adjourn. 7:06 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned to 5:00 p.m. on August 25, 1993, for a training workshop. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -2- August 11, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting , July 28, 1993 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Meeting for July 28, 1993, was canceled, as no items were scheduled. ,,jtespectfully submitted, /J�/`",�j'BBrad Buller Secretary ' HPC Minutes -1- July 28, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 14, 1993 Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman McNiel then led in the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy, Wendy Vallette ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer; Brad Buller, City Planner; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary ANNOUNCEMENTS Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that a letter had been received from the property owner's attorney regarding Item A. A. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 93-02 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A proposal to designate the site of the C. N. Ross House, a recently demolished potential local landmark house which was located at the southeast corner of Etiwanda and Highland Avenues, a Point of Historic Interest and establish potential future environmental mitigation measures - APN: 227-051-03. Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report and suggested that the Commissioners take the time to review the letter submitted by the property owner's attorney. He noted that the owner's lawyer had objected to not only the Point of Interest designation, but also to the list of potential mitigations appearing in the staff report. He remarked that the listing of potential mitigations are not conditions, but merely a list. He noted that recently the City had designated another property which was vacant and the proposed project had been conditioned to commemorate the history of the property in the design of the project. He indicated that for that project the HPC Minutes -1- July 14, 1993 entry statement was to incorporate a plaque to commemorate the history of the ' site. He stated staff supported designation of the property as an Historic Point of Interest and believed a similar condition to the project recently considered and approved by the City exists with this site. He suggested that an additional finding be added to the resolution; i.e. , that the site is the location of an important historic event or building. He stated that a Point of Interest designation is merely a recognition for historical purposes and is not subject to protective or restrictive provisions applicable to Landmark designations. Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing. Valerie Wisot, Schwartz, Wisot & Rodov, 315 South Beverly Drive, Suite 315, Beverly Hills, stated she was representing the landowner of the property in question. She stated that the property owner was concerned with what was being considered and the possible mitigations, and she felt it would deprive the owner of the use of the property. She felt the City statute is vague and the property did not meet the requirements of the statute because the City had required demolition of what the City was now asking to be commemorated. She reiterated what she had stated in her letter; that the property is merely raw land, is not representative of an historical period, does not contain a building which is rare, and does not have an historic architectural or engineering significance. She stated the landowner had repeatedly tried to secure the property but the City had required demolition and issued a demolition permit. She said that the first notice her client had received that the building may be historically significant was a telephone call made after issuance of the demolition permit when her client was asked if he wanted ' to enter into a contract under the Miller Act. She said her client chose not to apply for such a contract, but instead to go ahead and demolish the building in accordance with the demolition permit issued by the City. She felt the City was now trying to force what it had not been able to get voluntarily. She observed that the house which had been demolished had been altered considerably and she felt it had no relationship to the original structure. She thought the City may have made a mistake in demanding that the house be demolished, but she did not feel her client should be made to suffer. She felt that to require mitigations would constitute a taking. She stated that her client had never been informed that mitigation measures may be required following demolition. She noted that the City had indicated possible mitigation measures might include rebuilding the house to its historic state, which was not even as it existed at the time of demolition. She stated that the house had apparently been on a private, uncirculated list of potential landmarks, which had not been made public and of which her client had been informed. Jim Frost, 12996 Victoria Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that the attorney for the landowner was clearly blurring the distinction between an Historic Point of Interest and a Landmark. Marsha Banks, Hippard Ranch, Rural Route 2, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she had served on the former Historic Preservation Commission. She said the landowner had attempted to secure the property only in response to repeated requests by ' HPC Minutes -2- July 14, 1993 ' the City over a two-year period. She felt the attempts to secure the property had been inadequate as the landowner had used flimsy fencing and scrap lumber over the doors and windows which did not totally cover the windows or doors. _ She said that at the time the demolition was ordered, the weeds were 2-1/2 to 3 feet high, creating a fire hazard. She stated the landowner had known the property was historic because in the letters to the applicant asking that the property be secured, there had been repeated references to the fact that the landowner would have to apply to the Historic Preservation Commission for either alteration or demolition of the property. She noted that the request is for a Point of Interest because it is the former site of something that was historic. She said the home had been a beautiful old home which had been altered and was in bad shape but it would not have been difficult to restore it to its original structure. She said City staff felt the interior was structurally sound and to restore the house to its original condition would have meant merely replacing the porch which had been removed and removing the addition on the rear of the house. She said the City's ordinance does not require that the interior be restored to its former splendor. She stated the location at Highland and Etiwanda Avenue is at the entrance to what is considered old Etiwanda. She felt the issue was the "malign" neglect by the property owner, causing the City to lose an important historic resource and the property owner to lose the opportunity to avail themselves of the Mills Act to reduce property taxes and to potentially convert the historic structure to commercial use. Commissioner Tolstoy noted the Historic Preservation Commission had compiled a ' list designating potential points of interest in the City. He asked if that list had not been discussed at a public meeting. Ms. Banks replied that she was not sure if the house was on the list which was established in the 1970s but she was sure it was on the second list which was established by the Historic Preservation Commission at a public meeting following a survey made in the mid 1980s. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the list had been shared with the property owner. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated City records show that the property owner was informed as early as July 1991 that the property was historically significant. Jim Banks, 10788 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that the City's request that the house be demolished was only a reaction after years of trying to get the property owner to take care of the property. He felt that was an important issue because there are a lot of historically significant structures in the City which are receiving similar treatment. He noted that many owners consider historic structures a nuisance because they feel it may impinge upon their ability to develop the land, so they allow the structures to deteriorate. He acknowledged that taking care of a house takes attention. He said there are several other historically significant structures in the City which are also being neglected. He thought that designating this site as an Historic Point of Interest may be a tool for dealing with the problem of HPC Minutes -3- July 14, 1993 allowing the community's historic resources to decay. He stated the owner of the house had made the choice to allow the property to deteriorate to the ' point where the City had to require demolition. He noted that the landowner's attorney had blended the Point of Interest designation and the mitigation requirements into one action. He said the only matter before the Commission was to determine if they should recommend designation as an Historic Point of Interest. He stated the mitigation would not have an effect and mitigations would not be imposed until someone is developing the property, at which time the mitigation might well be changed. He said the landowner's assertion that the City's action would be a regulatory taking were untrue. He stated that a regulatory taking is a severe downzoning or a zoning situation where the landowner is prevented from using their property. He thought that forcing people to recognize that an historic structure is a resource of the community and belongs to the whole community still allows the people to use their property. He did not feel it is premature to designate the property as a Point of Historic Interest. He said the city had chosen not to designate properties without owner consent but the City did not intend to give property owners the right to destroy the property through neglect. He felt the City will be a serious loser if owners are allowed to do so. He thought that anyone who owns an historic structure has a duty to the community to protect that resource. Ms. Wisot reiterated that there had been no historic designation on her client's property. She said there had not been any malign neglect and her client had built a chain link fence and boarded up the windows. She stated that every time they had been asked to secure the property, they had tried to comply and had tried to maintain the house until they were told by the City to ' demolish it. She felt the proposed mitigations are punitive, such as being asked to rebuild something which no longer exists because it was not designated in time. She felt that if the house was so important, action should have been taken years ago. Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing. He asked for clarification on staff's recommendation. Mr. Buller indicated that staff recommended the Commission take action on the resolution with the additional finding that the site is the location of an important historic event or building. He felt the information from the CalTrans study and local review was sufficient to indicate the site is significant to the Etiwanda area. He said the mitigation measures are simply listed as options. He recommended that the level and type of commemoration similar to the Fu-Mai project be incorporated into the final design of the project. He noted the Commission was not considering a Landmark designation, but rather a Point of Interest, and the designation is merely a recognition for historic purposes and not subject to protective or restrictive provisions applicable to landmarks. Commissioner Melcher felt the distinction between a Landmark and a Point of Historic Interest could be easily understood. He thought the property owner's concern may arise from the recording of potential mitigations for future environmental assessment of a project on the site. He asked how any record , HPC Minutes -4- July 14, 1993 ' would be created listing the potential mitigations as they are not indicated in the resolution. Mr. Buller reported a file is kept on all properties which have been surveyed and when a project is submitted for any such property, that file would be reviewed. He observed that a Point of Interest designation could be declared at the time a project is submitted, even if the Commission chose not to recommend designation at this time. He stated that when a project is submitted, an environmental review is conducted under the California Environmental Quality Act and any history of the site will be considered at that time. Commissioner Melcher said he understood that if the Commission recommends designation, that will become a matter of record and when a project is proposed, the City will advise the applicant that the property has been designated an Historic Point of Interest and certain requirements will need to be incorporated into the project to afford the proper recognition of the status of the property. Mr. Buller said conditions may or may not be imposed, and that it would depend on the Commission that reviews the project at the time it is submitted. commissioner Melcher observed that the Commission would not be creating any conditions by their action tonight and there would be no certainty that any mitigations would be imposed. ' Mr. Buller affirmed that was correct. Commissioner Melcher stated he then saw no reason to not proceed. Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney, observed that the only matter before the Commission was whether or not to recommend a Point of Interest designation. He said the Commission would not currently make any environmental assessments or require any mitigations. He said that would be reviewed at the time a project is submitted. Commissioner Vallette asked if it would be possible to attach to the Resolution a recommendation that future Commissioners consider the list included in the staff report. Mr. Hanson felt that would not be appropriate because mitigation measures could only be imposed at the time a project is reviewed. He said the listing in the staff report was merely for discussion and couldn't be binding in the future. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if suggested mitigations would be forwarded to City Council at the time they consider designation. Mr. Hanson replied that the City Council would be in the same position of not having an environmental assessment to review as there is no current project.. 1 HPC Minutes -5- July 14, 1993 Commissioner Chitiea strongly supported the site as an Historic Point of Interest. She felt the community had suffered a loss with the demolition of ' the building. She said she had sadly watched the building decline over a period of two years. She felt the measures taken to protect the property had been inadequate and vandalism had occurred because of the lag time between requests for securing by the City and action by the owner. She noted any mitigation measures would be in the future. MOTION: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Chitiea, to adopt the resolution recommending approval of Historic Point of Interest designation 93-02 with modification to include the finding that the site is the location of an important historic event or building. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: CHITIEA, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY, VALLETTE NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Chairman McNiel felt it was tragic the City had missed an opportunity to save the house. He felt the City needs to act as quickly as possible on remaining historical sites. Commissioner Chitiea suggested that it would be appropriate to start action to amend the City code if necessary to make sure such a situation would not occur again. Commissioner Tolstoy agreed and noted that there are several, other historic buildings in the community which appear to be deteriorating rather quickly. ' PUBLIC COMMENTS Jim Frost, 12996 Victoria Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that it appeared all five Commissioners were willing recipients of the honor bestowed upon them to serve as the Historic Preservation Commission. He thought that in the future the job of acting as Commissioners for both the Planning and Historic Preservation Commissions would become overwhelming. He commented that City council Members and Commissioners are transient but the decisions made by the Planning Commission and the Historic Preservation Commission are irreversible. Chairman McNiel commented that the previous Historic Preservation Commissioners were better equipped to deal with historic preservation issues. He stated the Commissioners would be grateful for any assistance previous Commissioners would like to offer. Marsha Banks, Hippard Ranch, Rural Route 2, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that she and the other former Historic Preservation Commissioners had experienced a great deal of sadness at being dismissed, but they were grateful for the rapport which had been built with the Planning Commission. She said they had confidence in the present Commission's ability to carry on and asked that the Commissioners call on them for any assistance desired. HPC Minutes -6- July 14, 1993 ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Moved by Melcher, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 5-0, to adjourn. 7:58 p.m. - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brad Huller Secretary 1 HPC Minutes -7- July 14, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 8, 1993 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Arner, seconded by Schmidt, carried 5-0-1, to approve the April 13, 1993 minutes. Moved by Arner, seconded by Haskvitz, carried 5-0-1 , to approve the May 11 , 1993 minutes PUBLIC HEARINGS A. DEMOLITION REVIEW AND LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-04 - FIRST ASSEMBLY OF GOD CHURCH/CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A proposal to demolish the Baird Barn, a potential Local Landmark and Unreinforced Masonry Building, located at 8619 Baker Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, and a proposal to designate it as a local Landmark or a Point of Historic Interest - APN: 207-132-53. (Continued from April 13, 1993) Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Banks requested that staff continue their efforts to encourage the buyer to pursue Landmark status for the church. ' Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. HPC MINUTES -1- June 8, 1993 M Chairman Banks closed the public hearing since there was no one to comment on the item. Motion: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, carried 5-0-1, to continue LD 93-04 for sixty days. Motion carried by the following. vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS -carried NEW BUSINESS There was no new business. COMMISSION BUSINESS Chairman Banks requested that the Ross House Historic Point of Interest Public Hearing be placed on the next month's Planning/HPC agenda. B. REQUESTED RESEARCH ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE UPDATES Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. ' Chairman Banks asked if the State mandated that the Historic Building Code be used on historic buildings, why wasn't it used with the Ross House? Ms. Hartig replied that it had to be a designated historic building. Chairman Banks asked if staff had a draft of the ordinance. Ms. Hartig replied that she did. She listed all her suggestions: 1 . Revise the Ordinance Title to the "Historic Preservation Ordinance" 2. Codify the application of the State Historic Building Code. 3. Rewrite the section regarding the section on "Dangerous and Unsafe Conditions of a Building" and clarify exactly what constitutes those conditions. 4. Implement a review process ensuring that HPC is notified that the Building Official is initiating demolition on a historic, or a potentially historic property (anything identified but not designated in the HPC survey) . Chairman Banks wanted ensure that buildings are protected from immediate demolition if there is an immediate unsafe condition (i.e, fire, earthquake, etc. ) Ms. Hartig reviewed some of the language she intended to place in the new ' ordinance regarding this problem. She stated that another way to handle the situation would be through the Nuisance Abatement Ordinance which allows the City have a public hearing and then go and make necessary repairs (if the HPC MINUTES -2- June 8, 1993 owner will not) and place a lien on the property. She commented that the new ordinance would refer to this in the Section concerning keeping property in good repair. She explained what constituted an economic hardship for a property owner and suggested a Certificate of Economic Hardship be issued to property owners when applicable. The Commission agreed that a Certificate of Economic Hardship is a good idea and the idea should be integrated in the new Ordinance. Ms. Hartig stated she .also planned to expand on the section regarding the Special Use permit. Chairman Banks asked how long it would be before the revised ordinance would be ready for approval by the Planning/HPC Commission. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated he thought it would be ready by the end of this summer. Chairman Banks .asked that the members of this Commission be mailed copies of the ordinance when it goes to the Planning/HPC Commission for approval. Mr. Buller stated that the members of the Commission will receive copies and he encouraged their continued participation in the process. Commissioner Haskvitz stated he would like to see Code Enforcement staff do drive by inspections of historic properties once a year. Mr. Henderson stated that at last count there are 355 structures and drive by inspections would be very difficult with current staffing. Mr. Buller stated that Code Enforcement currently looks at all structures for unsafe conditions, but he commented that perhaps their awareness could be heightened with regard to historic structures. • r r + ANNOUNCEMENTS Ms. Hartig gave the Commission an overview of the state preservation conference. PUBLIC COMMENTS Mr. Buller expressed his thanks to the Commission for their service over the last several years and he stated that there have been great strides in the area of preservation under this Commission. He stated he hoped their involvement would continue as private citizens. Chairman Larry McNiel of the current Planning Commission reiterated Mr. Buller's expression of thanks and assured the parting HPC Commissioners that ' the new combined Planning/HPC Commission would try to follow in their former Commissioners' footsteps. He also encouraged the former Commissioners' continued support and involvement in the future. HPC MINUTES -3- June 8, 1993 M Commissioner Tolstoy of the Planning Commission echoed both Mr. Buller's and Chairman Tolstoy's sentiments. Chairman Banks thanked staff for the speedy response to her request for copies of documents regarding the savings to the City by letting the current HPC Commission go. She stated that the report is one year out of date and that subsequent to the report, the Commission cut all projects. She commented that even though the report was one year out of date, the HPC Commission's portion of the $500,000 in purported savings is actually $44,844; eliminating overhead items brings the balance down to $20,156. She stated that did not seem a like a large enough savings to solve the current budgetary crisis. She further remarked that Council owes the public and the Commission an honest explanation for cutting the Commission. She expressed her thanks to Planning Commission Chairman McNiel and Commissioner Tolstoy for their support and stated that she had confidence that, with their help, preservation will carry on in Rancho Cucamonga. Despite the Commission's combined service of 34 years (excluding Commissioner Cooper's service) , no member of the Council nor the Mayor has contacted any member of the Commission to discuss the decision, apologize for the way it was handled, or to even thank the Commission for its years of service. She stated she was personally appalled at the arrogance. She thanked her fellow Commissioners and the HPC staff members for her children and for future generations who will enjoy and value the result of their work. ADJOURNMENT The Commission adjourned at 6:10 PM. ' Respectfully submitted, Shelley A. Petrelli Secretary HPC MINUTES -4- June 8, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 11 , 1.993 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings, STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig; Associate Planner; Steve Hayes; Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary 1 • e � t r APPROVAL OF MINUTES No minutes were available for approval; the minutes of April 13 and May 11 , 1993, will available at the June 8, 1993 meeting. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 93-01 - SAN GABRIEL VALLEY LABOR ASSOCIATION - A proposal to designate the Cucamonga Labor Camp, a site previously used as a World War II Italian Prisoner of War Labor Camp, located between Foothill Boulevard and Arrow Route, west of Cucamonga Creek Flood Control Channel, as an Historic Point of Interest - APN: 207-211-01, 18-21, 31, 32, and 34. Related File: Tentative Tract 15540. Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Arner pointed out that the camp was used for immigrant laborers from Mexico, known as Brasseros. For a short time Estonians stayed there also. Commissioner Tessier stated that her father lived there for a short time. She said he worked in the fields long enough to pay off his trip to the States and left. HPC MINUTES -1- May 11 , 1993 Chairman Banks thanked staff for initiating the process to designate the camp as an Historic Point of Interest. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. The applicant was not present, but Mr. Hayes indicated that they are in favor of the action to designate the site. Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. Motion: Moved by Schmidt,. seconded by Tessier, carried 5-0-1 , to accept staff's recommendation to designate the site as Historic Point of Interest 93- 01. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: . BILLINGS c -carried a * x x w OLD BUSINESS B. STATUS AND AFTERMATH OF DEMOLITION OF THE ROSS HOUSE, A POTENTIAL LOCAL LANDMARK, LOCATED AT 6527 ETIWANDA AVENUE, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ETIWANDA 1 AND HIGHLAND Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. He stated that the house had not yet been demolished. Chairman Banks questioned whether mandatory submission of items to the State Historic Preservation Office would only determine National Register eligibility. Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, informed her that the State has now established a State Register of Historic Places that emphasizes structures and sites that are locally important. Mr. Henderson added that the review of locally significant structures by the State came about because of the last series of earthquakes in Northern California as many historic buildings were demolished without proper review; the law was passed to give cities the ability to call in experts from the State to analyze these kinds of situations. He commented that this law had recently been expanded to include any kind of damage. Chairman Banks asked if it included benign neglect. Mr. Henderson replied affirmatively. He stated that this is done by a group of professionals who donate their time to check out damages to historic structures. Ms. Hartig added it is an opportunity to receive an objective opinion. HPC MINUTES -2- May 11 , 1993 ' 1 1 Mr. Henderson stated that currently this is not mandatory, but in order to make it mandatory, the Commission would need to make an ordinance revision. He also mentioned that the Historic Preservation Commission Code (Ordinance 70) would need to be revised to include a Demolition Delay Provision if the Commission wished to do that. Commissioner Haskvitz asked about adding a section to Ordinance 70 regarding a mandatory press release with the background information on a property prior to demolition. Chairman Banks asked how the Commission could get the Ordinance amended by June, 8. Ms. Hartig replied that the Commission would have to direct staff to rewrite and add portions to the Ordinance and send the Ordinance on to City Council for final approval. Chairman Banks asked if it was feasible to ask staff to come up with a draft of the revised Ordinance, including provisions, for benign neglect and demolition delay, by June 8. Mr. Henderson responded affirmatively. Commissioner Haskvitz stated that he felt additional review should be done by another Commission or source prior to a demolition, rather than depending on one person's review and determination. He commented that the Building Official alone can order demolition of a structure without consulting another source. Commissioner Tessier requested that penalty fees for benign neglect also be added to the draft ordinance. Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that he had an opportunity to meet with the Community Development Director and the Building Official to reiterate the Historic Preservation Commission's concerns and to discuss making changes to the Ordinance. He expressed that he did not know what direction this is headed at this point. He commented that to pull everything together before the June meeting would be difficult for staff. Commissioner Tessier commented that at last month's meeting she had mentioned the deterioration of the Lucas Land Company on Foothill Boulevard. She stated that since then the building has been boarded up and the graffiti removed and she wondered why. Mr. Buller responded that . the City's Code Enforcement office was in the process of abating the property, because it is becoming an attractive nuisance, when the owner decided to resecure the building and paint out the graffiti on a daily basis, if necessary. ' Commissioner Tessier asked for confirmation that it was the property owner who had secured the building. HPC MINUTES -3- May 11 , 1993 Mr. Buller replied that there is someone interested in leasing the building to have an open-air, farmers' market and that individual, with the property owner's approval, is taking care of the building. Chairman Banks asked if the Commission felt it was reasonable to ask staff to have draft revisions of the Ordinance by the June 8 meeting. Commissioner Haskvitz replied affirmatively. Commissioner Tessier responded negatively. Chairman Banks stated that she felt the largest danger to local historic structures is the benign neglect from the property owners. She commented that she would like to formalize some type of action before the present Commission is relieved from their functions on July I. She stated that she did not feel the of lines communication between City staff members and/or the Historic Preservation Commission could be trusted and she would feel more comfortable making steps toward formalizing the Ordinance prior to July 1 . , Commissioner Tessier stated her main concern is that, in rushing the changes, things are forgotten or left out; however, she agreed that she did not want to leave the Ordinance as it currently stands. Commissioner Haskvitz commented that, in his experience on the Tree Ordinance Subcommittee, it is difficult to impose fines on absentee landlords and if they are determined to demolish, fines will not deter them. 1 Chairman Banks asked if Ms. Hartig was aware of other cities with fines for benign neglect. Ms. Hartig stated that the City of Ontario does not have fines in place for benign neglect although such fines were discussed during the period in which their ordinance was drafted. She commented that Pasadena has very strict fines for demolition. Chairman Banks asked if Ms. Hartig could draft a couple of options for the Commission, both with and without fines. Ms. Hartig responded affirmatively. Motion: Moved by Arner, seconded by Schmidt, carried 5-0-1, to direct staff to draft a revised Ordinance with provisions for benign neglect and to bring that draft back to. the Commission by their June 8 meeting. .Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS - -carried Chairman Banks asked Mr. Henderson to follow up with the owner of the Ross House regarding possible historic preservation incentives. HPC MINUTES -4- May 11 , 1993 Mr. Henderson agreed he would take care of that. NEW BUSINESS There was no new business. COMMISSION BUSINESS Chairman Banks addressed the following comments into the record regarding the recent City Council action dismissing the present Historic Preservation Commissioners from their terms and appointing the Planning Commission to assume those responsibilities: At the February 9, 1993 Historic Preservation Commission meeting, this body discussed the newspaper account of the Council's action to review all Commissionis viability in the on-going budget crisis. Despite the assurances that staff had been given by their immediate supervisors that the Council review would not impact HPC, this Commission directed me to meet with our Council subcommittee. First the HPC staff, and subsequently my own office 1 staff, attempted to set up this meeting. The meeting was finally scheduled for 3:30 PM on March 1. When I appeared at City Hall, I was met by Diane O'Neal of the City Manager's office and was told that the Councilmen would not be attending and that anything I had to say to them would be relayed by Ms. O'Neal. I declined to communicate this Commission's concerns in such a manner. I then set out to directly contact our Council subcommittee of Gutierrez and Alexander. I was able to establish a meeting date within two days, March 3, at 4:30 PM in my office. The meeting lasted exactly 30 minutes and both Councilman Alexander and Gutierrez attended. As I reported to this Commission on March 9, I was very pleased with the meeting and the Councilmen's comments. My agenda for the meeting consisted of outlining for the Councilmen the steps HPC had taken to cut costs: eliminate meetings, save staff time, increase volunteerism, and put projects on indefinite hold. Both Councilmen specifically indicated that: 1. The current review by the Council would not significantly impact this Commission; 2. The thrust of the review was to eliminate Public Safety and the Environmental Management Commission; 3. The Council was well aware of the cost- saving measures HPC had initiated - that we had done more than our share and had done more than any other Commission; 4. In . fact, no other Commission had attempted to respond to the budget crisis; 5. When the other two Commissions were eliminated, Councilman HPC MINUTES -5- May 11 , 1993 Gutierrez and Alexander indicated that they would see that some of the money saved would be redirected to HPC ' for Oral History funding; 6. The only changes they foresaw were perhaps reducing this Commission from seven to five people and my response to that suggestion was that I thought that was a totally workable solution. I concluded the meeting by reiterating the HPC's concern for financial responsibility requesting of Councilman Gutierrez and Councilman Alexander that if there were any ideas on how we as a Commission could operate more efficiently and cost-effectively, we were open to the suggestion and to the changes. On May 6 this Commission was informed of .its dismissal through an article in the morning newspaper. In the intervening 64 days neither I nor any .other Commission member has been contacted by a Council member, by anyone from the City Manager's office, nor to my knowledge, has our staff been advised of any change in the circumstances since my meeting with the Councilmen. At this time I am making a formal request for a report, in detail, of the costs to be saved by dismissing this Commission. Since the staff report prepared for the Council was very generalized, and yet Councilman Buquet used a $500,000 figure, I assume there are supporting documents. I request that copies of these be presented to this Commission by the end of the week. Regarding the assumption of HPC duties by the Planning Commission, I have the following comments: 1. How will any significant money be saved by merely changing the faces of those who make the decisions; 2. If at this point the phantom savings are to be done by cutting staff, how can we have effective historic preservation? The program will he carried out at that point by an untrained Commission making decisions based on reports by untrained staff. If staff cuts are to occur, present Commission is needed more than ever. We have spent hours, days, and weeks at conferences and workshops, all on unpaid time, sometimes absorbing expenses of travel, food, and lodging to learn the law, to learn public safety, to learn public policy; to learn what has worked in other communities, and to learn how to judge a restoration project as not viable. The Planning Commission does not have this training. It will be costly to give it to them. We as a Commission volunteer our time. We have served selflessly. There are no egos on this Commission. No one has or expects to use the HPC for political advancement. We have worked for the best interests of the City. We have been dismissed based on 1 an undocumented and on a specious argument. Thank you. HPC MINUTES -6- May 11 , 1993 Commissioner Haskvitz stated he had written a letter to the Editor of the Inland Daily Bulletin expressing his findings on the matter. He stated that he had gone through the minute notes and determined that the Commission had spent less than 36 hours in meetings this year and that the HPC staff members spent approximately 100 hours in meetings. He also stated that, if this community is built on volunteerism, and this is the way that volunteers are treated, that defeats their own credo. He expressed further disillusionment by stating that he found out he was no longer an HPC Commissioner through a phone call from a local newspaper reporter at 10 PM after the Council meeting. He said he felt that, because the current HPC was being replaced by .another Commission, it had to be strictly a personal matter. He thought perhaps the $110,000 the Commission had required as mitigations for historical properties must have irritated people. Commissioner Haskvitz stated he also tried to reach the Mayor on three separate occasions and had not received a return call. Chairman Banks asked again for the documents reflecting the potential savings by eliminating City Commissions. Mr. Buller stated he would work through the Community Development Director to get the requested information. • * + r t ANNOUNCEMENTS ' Chairman Banks announced that, from 8:00 AM to 2:00 PM, on June 5, the annual fund raiser for the Etiwanda Historical Society is being held at the Chaffey- Garcia house. Ms. Hartig stated that is the same weekend as the California Preservation Foundation Conference at Long Beach r x * * x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 6:05 PM. Respectfully submitted, Shelley A. P elli Secretary HPC MINUTES -7- May 11 , 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Special Meeting April 29, 1993 A Special Meeting of Historic Preservation Commission to be held April 29, 1993, was cancelled due to a lack of quorum. Respectfully submitted, Shelley A. Petrel CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES _ Regular Meeting April 13, 1993 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt,. Anne Tessier (arrived at 5:03 p.m.) COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings, Ada Cooper STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary APPROVAL OF .MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Haskvitz, carried 4-0-3 with Billings, Cooper, and Tessier absent, to approve the March 9, 1993, minutes. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. DEMOLITION REVIEW AND LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-04 - FIRST ASSEMBLY OF GOD CHURCH/CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A proposal to demolish the Baird Barn, a potential Local. Landmark and Unreinforced Masonry Building, located at 8619 Baker Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, and a proposal to designate it as a local Landmark or a Point of Historic Interest - APN: 207-132-53. (Continued from March 9, 1993) Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, affirmed that staff had met with the applicant and was requesting that the matter be continued for 60 days to allow the applicant time to reevaluate adaptive reuse possibilities. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. HPC MINUTES -1- April. 13, 1993 MOTION: Moved by Haskvitz, seconded by Arner, to continue the public hearing to the regularly scheduled HPC meeting of June 8, 1993. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS, COOPER -carried B. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 93-01 - ETIWANDA COMMUNITY CHURCH Consideration of the addition of a handicap ramp to the east (front) entrance of the building known historically as the Etiwanda Congregational Church, a designated Local Landmark, located at 7126 Etiwanda Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga - APN: 227-513-03. Anthea Hartig presented the staff report. i Chairman Banks asked the distance between the ramp and the basement windows. Ms. Hartig responded that they are adjacent to each other according to the plans. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. 1 Joe Burt stated he represented the church. He said the windows will not be changed, but will be merely boarded up. He noted the windows are currently ' hidden by shrubs and the shrubs will be moved forward approximately 7 feet so the view from the street will remain the same. He described their plans for installing the sidewalk and ramp and indicated they would be using whitewashed block to match the existing materials. He requested clarification on Condition 2 of the resolution regarding the landscaping plans. Ms. Hartig stated that staff felt comfortable working with the applicant regarding details and would clarify landscaping issues. Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. MOTION: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, to accept staff's recommendation for approval of Landmark Alteration Permit 93-01 with modification to provide for staff review of plans prior to issuance of building permits. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER, NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS, COOPER -carried HPC MINUTES -2- April 13, 1993 i C. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-05 - GIL RODRIGUEZ, JR. A proposal to designate, as a local Landmark, the John Klusman House, a Potential Local Landmark, State Landmark, and potentially eligible for the National Register, located at 8841 Foothill Boulevard, Rancho Cucamonga - APN: 207-211- 13. (Incorrectly advertised previously as project No. LD 93-04) Anthea Hartig presented the staff.report. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, observed that the Planning Commission ,had scheduled a workshop at 9:00 P.M. on Wednesday, April 14, 1993, to discuss the overall site design on the project. He invited interested Historic Preservation Commissioners to attend. Chairman Banks opened the public ,hearing. Gilbert Rodriguez, Jr., stated his family owns the property. He said they plan to incorporate ,the, house into their plans skid the development will be built around the house.. Commissioner Haskvitz asked the plans for the house. Mr. Rodriguez replied they 'are in the process of trying to rehabilitate the house. He said they hope to have it painted and, cleaned up within the next ' few months. Chairman Banks asked the ultimate use for the house. Mr. Rodriguez responded they had at one time thought about using the house as a restaurant but they now plan .to make it into an ,office. Chairman Banks asked what steps are being taken to cut down on vandalism. She asked if they had considered fencing the house. Mr. Rodriguez said he had recently moved a homeless couple into the house. He did not feel fencing would help. ' He said they are planning to first develop the perimeter of- the property and ,not the southern portion. He asked if it would be possible to move the house in the event that a user for the southern portion of the parcel would want better visibility to Foothill Boulevard. Ms. Hartig stated that, per the City's Historic Preservation Ordinance, a Landmark Alteration Permit would be required to move the house. She did not know what effect moving the house would have upon the possibility of listing the house on the state or national historic registers, as generally moving such houses is not looked upon favorably. She said it would be best to review the matter with the State Historic Preservation Officer prior to any move, but she felt it may be workable if the house were to remain in. the same orientation along Foothill Boulevard. Mr. Rodriguez stated the house would remain on the same parcel. HPC MINUTES -3- April 13, 1993 Chairman Banks suggested that the matter be thoroughly investigated because it could have a financial impact if they ever applied for tax credits. She thought it might be workable since it would not make that big of a change. Mr. Henderson stated that from a local standpoint it would be critical that the orientation remain the same. He thought it might be better to move the house back from Foothill Boulevard to give more depth. Commissioner Haskvitz questioned if the widening of Foothill Boulevard might place the house in jeopardy, creating justification for moving the house. Mr. Rodriguez stated that when Foothill Boulevard is widened it will still be 40 to 60 feet from the front of the house. He remarked that the Klusmans had a son who is not mentioned in any of the City's historical documentation. Commissioner Tessier was surprised the house had not already been declared a Landmark. Chairman Banks stated that the house had previpusly been considered for historical listing, but at that time there were some Commissioners who felt the Klusmans were over-represented in the City. She fully supported the application. Commissioner Schmidt stated it was wonderful. Chairman Banks stated a number of people have questioned over the years why ' the structure is not a landmark. Mr. Rodriguez agreed that the structure sparks a lot of interest. As there was no further testimony, Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. MOTION: Moved by Haskvitz, seconded by Schmidt, to accept staff's recommendation for a Landmark designation for LD 93-05 and forward the application to City Council for final approval. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS, COOPER -carried ♦ ,r r x NEW BUSINESS Commissioner Haskvitz requested that articles be collected from the opening of the baseball stadium for the City archives. Ms. Hartig stated she was collecting as much as possible for the archives. HPC MINUTES -4- April 13, 1993 Commissioner Haskvitz felt there was a possibility of periodically having an Historic Preservation information table at the complex. He thought it would be good public relations to have such a table annually. Chairman Banks stated that she and Commissioner Arner are on the public relations subcommittee. a • : r t COMMISSION BUSINESS D. UPDATE ON CITY COUNCIL REVIEW OF COMMISSIONS Chairman Banks stated she had met with Council Members Alexander and Gutierrez and they had expressed strong support for the Historic Preservation Commission. She said they stated they felt the Historic Preservation Commission would not be affected by any changes planned for the City's Commissions. She remarked they had observed that the Historic Preservation Commission has operated';economically and they had indicated they hoped that some of the funding cut from other Commissions could be allocated to the Historic Preservation Commission for oral history purposes. Mr. Henderson stated the matter had been discussed at a full City Council workshop and Council Member Bouquet was the only City Council Member who expressed an opinion that perhaps the Historic Preservation Commission could be combined with the Planning Commission. He stated that Council Member Gutierrez felt the Historic Preservation Commission should be preserved in its present form, although he was not opposed to reducing its membership to five. He noted the matter had been scheduled for a future City Council meeting. He said the Council had indicated they would not fill any of the current vacancies until decisions had been made on the make up of the Commissions. He said the Council had also indicated they may ask all Commissioners to reapply. He said there had been some discussion about changing the meetings to quarterly, but Mayor Stout had commented that he did not want to have the meeting schedule interfere with development. Commissioner Arner thanked Chairman Banks for meeting with the City Council Subcommittee to express the Commission's concerns. Mr. Henderson noted that there had been preliminary discussions about scheduling a tour for Council Members Alexander and Gutierrez, but the tour had not been scheduled as yet. He said they would attempt to schedule it in late May. Chairman Banks expressed concerns about the deterioration of the Ross House at Highland and Etiwanda. She said the windows are broken and it did not appear the owner is trying to preserve the house. HPC MINUTES -5- April 13, 1993 1 Mr. Henderson showed pictures of the house. He stated that the Community Development Director had recently sent a Memorandum reporting that the ' Building Official had approved demolition because he felt there is a hazard ,as the. building is not being kept secured. He noted the Building and Safety Division had been working with the property owners for two years in an attempt to have the property secured. He stated that unfortunately the Planning Division had not had an opportunity to talk with the property owners to discuss the property tax incentives available or to try to convince them to advertise to make the building available for moving. Chairman Banks said the community had lost a lot of homes that have been allowed to deteriorate to the point of becoming public hazards. Commissioner Haskvitz remarked the matter constituted a demolition by neglect. Chairman Banks felt the house should not be lost because of its proximity to Highland and Etiwanda Avenue. She felt it would be a great opportunity for a light office/professional use. r c Mr. Henderson noted the property owners are out-of-town investors. He thought there were many potential uses for the building and tax advantages for the building. Chairman Banks asked if the house was lost. Mr. Henderson stated the demolition permit had been issued but' demolition had 1 not started as yet. Chairman Banks asked how it could be stopped. Commissioner Arner asked if the building had been surveyed. Ms. Hartig confirmed it had. Mr. Henderson stated the Building Division was aware it is an ,historic building. Chairman Banks asked that the Commission's concerns be expressed to the Building Official. She requested that the demolition be delayed until Historic Preservation staff had an opportunity to meet with the owners. Mr. Henderson replied he would convey the Commission's concerns to the Building Official and also the Community Development Director. Commissioner Haskvitz asked if it would be possible to instigate landmark status proceedings. Mr. Henderson stated that the demolition permit had already been issued and conferring landmark status would not negate the permit. HPC MINUTES -6- April 13, 1993 3 i Commissioner Tessier asked if there was not an Historic Preservation Commission resolution requiring that the Commission be advised before any structures on the potential list be slated for demolition. Mr. Henderson responded that it had been the working policy of the Commission that the Commission have an opportunity to review requests for demolition of any potentially historic buildings. He said the Building Official indicated the policy may not be valid and should be reconsidered by the City Council. Chairman Banks remarked that another house had been lost without Commission input. Commissioner Arner asked how the Building Official could determine the policy is no longer valid. Ms. Hartig responded that the Building Official stated the City Council has taken a new direction and the policy is no longer valid. She suggested that staff prepare an issues paper to be presented to the City Council Subcommittee. ', t Chairman Banks felt that needed to be done quickly. Ms. Hartig suggested that the ordinance be revised. She noted that the Building Official had cited a paragraph in the ordinance giving the Building Official the power to declare a building unsafe and dangerous and she felt that is contrary to CEQA. Chairman Banks stated that the windows on the Ross House are broken and the house looks bad but she had never. seen anyone loitering around the building even though she drives by the house four times a day. Mr. Henderson said he understands there is a property maintenance ordinance in the City and there had recently been a hearing and the owners of the Stobie House had been informed they have a certain period of time to fix the building before the City will proceed using Community Development Block Grant money to fix the property and the City would then attempt legal action to have the money returned. He thought the same process could have been used on the Ross House. He stated that staff was concerned that property owners will feel that they can secure demolition permits for historic structures through benign neglect. He felt that City Council's direction had been to get people to maintain their property. Chairman Hanks asked how quickly staff could prepare an issue paper. Mr. Henderson stated a meeting was being scheduled with . the Community Development Director, Building Official, and City Planner to ,discuss the matter. He hoped he would be able to participate in the meeting. He was not sure anything could be done for the Ross House. Chairman Banks felt the City should be able to rescind the demolition permit. HPC MINUTES -7- April 13, 1993 Mr. Henderson stated he would convey the Commission's concerns to the Community Development Director. ' Commissioner Arner asked why there is an Historic Preservation Commission if they are not allowed to have input. Chairman Banks asked what criteria was used to determine the building is unsafe and dangerous. Mr. Henderson responded the Building Official stated he found the building to be unsafe and dangerous based on the housing code. He said in the past the Building and Safety Division has been conservative and buildings had to have been fire damaged or have obvious structural flaws perhaps creating an earthquake hazard. He said he had not seen the interior so he was not saying the Building and Safety Division was not correct, he was merely saying no evidence had been presented the Historic Preservation Commission staff. Ms. Hartig stated she would like to see a definition of what constitutes unsafe and dangerous and have actions closer to the CEQA definition of an emergency. She said the CEQA definition is very explicit. Commissioner Tessier felt the Commission should have been notified prior to issuance of the demolition permit. Ms. Hartig stated that the ordinance calls for informing the Historic Preservation Commission when the structure is a landmark. She said the ' Building Official indicated he did not feel he had an obligation to inform the Historic Preservation Commission because the building is not a landmark structure. She noted that the Ontario City codes address demolition through neglect and indicates all property owners are responsible for maintaining their property. Commissioner Tessier stated the Ross House is a potential landmark. Chairman Banks said she felt strongly that the Ross House should not be lost because it is in a group of historic structures along Etiwanda Avenue which is a potential district. She feared that removing one of the structures destroys the integrity of other structures along the street. Commissioner Haskvitz feared that it also sets a dangerous precedent for getting around the essence of historic preservation. ANNOUNCEMENTS Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, reported that the 1993 California Preservation Conference will be held in Long Beach from June 3 to June 6. She indicated there is no money in the budget for attendance; however, Commissioners could attend using personal funds and receive the membership discount. HPC MINUTES -B- April 13, 1993 •V r r F _ i e. Commissioner Haskvitz stated he had submitted the nomination papers for the Etiwanda Historical Society as discussed at the last Commission meeting. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 6:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gail Sanchez / Secretary HPC MINUTES -9- April 13, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 9, 1993 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings STAFF PRESENT: Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1 , to approve the February 9, 1993 minutes, as amended. • * r � r PUBLIC HEARINGS A. DEMOLITION REVIEW AND LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-04 - FIRST ASSEMBLY OF GOD CHURCH/CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A proposal to demolish the Baird Barn, a potential Local Landmark and Unreinforced Masonry Building, located at 8619 Baker Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, and a proposal to designate it as a local Landmark or a Point of Historic Interest - APN: 207-132-53. Larry Henderson presented the staff report. He informed the Commission that the Building Official was going to request a one-year time extension for the remaining three historic structures that require retrofitting. He stated that a final action would not be required tonight if the Commission wished to continue the item until next month. He further commented that the applicant had not completed the structural analysis and it would be difficult to make a decision without that information. HPC MINUTES -1- March 9, 1993 Chairman Banks asked which other historic buildings were left to retrofit. Mr. Henderson replied the buildings are the China House, the Regina Ellena Winery Complex, and Pioneer Winery Complex. Chairman Banks said she thought the China House was to be purchased by the City for temporary homeless housing. Mr. Henderson stated that was canceled because of concerns over State budget constraints. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. Pastor Al Wilson, 8619 Baker Avenue, stated that the Southern California District of the Assemblies of God has 456 churches in Southern California and that historical landmarks are very important to them. He stated that they have three large, local churches and the expense and upkeep of this church make it difficult to maintain. He commented that they had not had a structural analysis done because of the expense, but he did contact couple of engineering firms and got estimates over the phone, which his secretary typed up for the Commission's reference. (The information was passed out to the Commission. ) He stated that the Church does not have many options because the market is bad now, but they do have a buyer ready to close escrow. He further remarked that another congregation could purchase the building and keep it as a landmark, but it is unlikely because the expense of retrofitting would be ' between $50,000 to $115,000. Commissioner Cooper asked if the potential buyer is another church. Pastor Wilson replied that the buyer is not another church but rather a developer who wants to build 13 condos on the site if he can get a demolition permit. Chairman Banks asked if the developer has had any conversations with the City regarding adaptive reuse of the site. Pastor Wilson stated that the developer has checked into using the Church for a community center for the complex but is concerned the condos could not be built around the building because of the way it is situated on the property. He remarked that the City has informed the developer that they needed to take 5,000 square feet off of the southern portion of the site to widen the cul-de- sac at Sandwood because firetrucks cannot turn around on the street. He commented this only leaves 1 .53 acres to develop 13 condos. Mr. Henderson asked if one of the estimates the Reverend brought is from Runyan Engineering. He replied no, but Runyan had previously estimated approximately $50,000 to retrofit the building. HPC MINUTES -2- March 9, 1993 Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. Chairman Banks concluded from the estimates (disallowing the $115,000 estimate because it was 'for a total rebuild) that the Church is looking at approximately $39,500 and $56,500 to retrofit the site. Commissioner Arner expressed concern because she was torn between the Church's situation and the Commission's role to determine whether the site should be landmarked. Chairman Banks stated she would like to have the project continued to allow the City time to discuss reuse of the site further with the developer. She commented that a figure of $40,000 to turn a building into a recreational center is not a large investment for a developer. Mr. Henderson stated it would not necessarily have to be a rec room, it could be a live-in caretaker's quarters, a laundry facility, etc. , so there are several options for the developer. He asked if the Reverend would mind continuing the hearing for 30 days to allow Mr. Henderson to speak to the developer about these adaptive reuse ideas. Pastor stated that would be agreeable. Chairman Banks asked about the other structures on the site. ' Mr. Henderson stated that the other buildings had not been an issue with this request, but they have been studied previously and he would need to check the file regarding the findings. MOVED by Banks, seconded by Schmidt, carried 6-0-1 , that the Commission support the Building Official's request for a one-year extension for the properties still requiring retrofitting, emphasizing to the Council that all the buildings under consideration are historic and the Commission has a vested interest in an extension to allow the property owners time to comply. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS -carried MOTION: Moved by Haskvitz, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1 , to continue the public hearing to the April 13, 1993 meeting to allow staff time to meet with the property owner and developer to discuss adaptive reuse for the site. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS -carried HPC MINUTES -3- March 9, 1993 COMMISSION BUSINESS B. APPOINTMENT OF REPLACEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER FOR THE MASI COMMERCE CENTER VINTNERS' WALK The Commission expressed their pleasure with how the Masis have responded to the Commission's request for historic representation at the site; they have not only contributed money, but they are contributing more sculptures and plaques than originally requested. Chairman Banks asked if this request for a new subcommittee member is a replacement for former Chairman Preston who was previously on the subcommittee. Mr. Henderson stated yes and commented that the subcommittee is intended to meet prior to the upcoming City Council meeting regarding the Masis' appeal of the Planning Commission's decision to have the public art come back to them for their review and approval (which the Masis' feel is contrary to Council's previous direction) . Commissioner Tessier volunteered to be the new subcommittee member and was confirmed by a general consensus. Commissioner Haskvitz told the Commission of a Historical Preservation Award designed to honor a group who has worked "over and above" on a project; he suggested nominating the Etiwanda Historical Society for this award. The Commission concurred that they wanted to nominate the Etiwanda Historical Society for their diligent efforts on the Chaffey-Garcia House and further concurred that they would fill out the forms directly after their meeting concluded. + r * r e ANNOUNCEMENTS Mr. Henderson stated he had received a notice from Caltrans regarding a Historic Preservation public meeting on the Route 30 Freeway; there will be a meeting in the Rains Room on March 24 at 1 :00 PM. r +r * +e r The Commission wished Commissioner Billings a speedy recovery from his recent surgery. HPC MINUTES -4- March 9, 1993 PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. t t x * r ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 5:50 PM. Respectfully -submitted, cJGRJZ�G_SL¢�!� Shelley A. Petrelli Secretary HPC MINUTES -5- March 9, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 9, 1993 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary Carlos Silva, Rehab Specialist APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1 , to approve the January 12, 1993 minutes, as amended. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. DEMOLITION REVIEW AND LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-02 OR POINT OF HISTORIC INTEREST 93-01 - NORA CHAO/CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A proposal to demolish the Etiwanda Auto Repair, a potential local landmark, located at 12906 Base Line Road, and a proposal to either reevaluate the potential significance of the structure or designate it as a local Landmark or Point of Historic Interest - APN: 227-131-17. This action will be forwarded to the City Council for final action and the date of the Public Hearing before City Council will be separately noticed. (Continued from January 12, 1993. ) Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. She commented that her research revealed that the building was constructed in 1947 and since it was constructed later than originally thought, it does fall under the URM Ordinance and will not require immediate retrofitting. HPC MINUTES -1- February 9, 1993 Chairman Banks asked if the demolition permit had been withdrawn. Carlos Silva, Rehab Specialist, commented he had spoken with the applicant and they indicated they wanted to continue to use the structure as a garage. He stated that the application for demolition can be denied and then voided. Commissioner Tessier asked if the Commission needed to go immediately forward on the Landmark designation. Ms. Hartig stated the Commission could do that if they wished, but she said she would feel more comfortable making that decision if the owners made such a request in the future. Chairman Banks stated that she would prefer to wait because the applicant was not present to speak on their own behalf. She asked about the status of this structure on the inventory. Ms. Hartig replied that it is a potential local landmark. MOTION: Moved by Cooper, seconded by Tessier, to table discussion on the property until such a time that the owners submit a project that would require HPC action. Motion carried 6-0-1 by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS -carried r * * a NEW BUSINESS B. ' CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST FOR WAIVER OF FEES FOR UNITED METHODIST CHURCH - A local Landmark Designated Property and an unreinforced masonry building located at 7690 Archibald Avenue. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Arner asked if staff felt that waiving the fees for the church would be setting a precedent for future requests. Mr. Henderson stated that no one has asked before. Mr. Silva clarified that the Building Official had been asked once verbally to waive fees and it was denied. Mr. Henderson pointed out that the permit fees would be minimal compared to the cost of retrofitting the building. Commissioner Arner stated that the building is one of the City's main landmarks and she wanted to ensure nothing would jeopardize its status. HPC MINUTES -2- February 9, 1993 Mr. Silva stated that the applicant is aware that he will have to pay fees when he applies and that he will receive a refund should the HPC and Council decide to waive the fees. Commissioner Banks stated she felt the City should grant relief from the fees as requested by the applicant and set a precedent that we are providing as many incentives as possible to encourage historic preservation. Commissioner Cooper asked if the church has to pay City taxes. Chairman Banks replied that they are not required to pay City taxes. Mr. Silva pointed .out that the actual permit fees to be taken in by the City amount to $350, while plan check fees of $650 will have to be paid out by the City. He reiterated that this would be setting a precedent. Commissioner Tessier asked what the approximate cost of retrofitting would be. Mr. Silva stated costs are approximately $25,000 to $30,000. MOTION: Moved by Cooper, seconded by Arner, carried 3-1-2-1 , to recommend to City Council that fees be waived for the United Methodist Church. Motion carried by the following vote: ' AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, COOPER, TESSIER ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: BANKS NOES: COMMISSIONERS: HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS -carried (Banks abstained because of a possible conflict of interest. ) ANNOUNCEMENTS Chairman Banks asked for additional information regarding the City Council item on the February 3 agenda regarding evaluation/reconstruction of City Commissions. Mr. Henderson stated that his understanding of the meeting was that the Council would take another month to gather information and would again discuss it at their March 3 meeting. He said he had no indication as to how Council members felt about the issue. Chairman Banks requested that a meeting be set up for her with the HPC Council Subcommittee (Gutierrez and Alexander) to discuss HPC issues. Staff assured her that such a meeting would be arranged. HPC MINUTES -3- February 9, 1993 Mr. Henderson informed the Commission that recent City Council action designated the Pearson Garage as a local Landmark and authorized demolition of the canopy, subject to the mitigations specified in the Negative Declaration. He stated that the State Office of Preservation did find, preliminarily, that the garage is National Register eligible under the criteria of local significance. He said that staff is working out the details of the HABS/HAER drawings with the applicant now. Chairman Banks asked if the Office of Preservation indicated what the status of the building would be if the canopy were removed or if the entire building was moved and rebuilt. Mr. Henderson stated it would be best for the Office of Preservation to review the building prior to any demolition, but the owner is trying to demolish as soon the drawings are complete. Commissioner Arner asked about the ISTEA funds that could potentially be used to purchase or improve the building. Mr. Henderson replied that it is a competitive grant process and the applications are due in April for funding this year. He stated that coordination of the applications is being handled through the Engineering Department and he stated he has not gotten any information back from them yet. Chairman Banks requested staff check into what the hold up is with getting the , applications back from Engineering. Mr. Henderson stated staff would have to evaluate which projects have the best potential so time is not wasted on projects that are a lost cause because resources are limited. Comfiii.ssioner Tessier asked what the owner of the Pearson Garage property is planning to do once the demolition is complete. Mr. Henderson stated he was not sure, but they initially indicated that they planned an adaptive reuse of the building. r * w PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at, 5:40 PM. Respectfully submitted, Shelley A. Petre Secretary , HPC MINUTES -4- February 9, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 12, 1993 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the' City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Gene Billings, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier , COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Ada Cooper STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary x x x x x APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Billings seconded by Schmidt, carried 670-1, to approve the December 8, 1992 minutes. x x.x x x PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-01 AND MILLS ACT CONTRACT 93-01 - JAN SUTTON AND DALE SUTTON - An application to designate the Emory Allen House, located at 9441 Lomita Avenue, as a local Landmark. In addition, review of a request to enter into a Mills Act Contract for the said property. APN: 202-082-13. This action will be forwarded to the City Council for final action and the date of the Public Hearing before City Council will be separately noticed. Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. Jan Sutton, co-owner of the Emory Allen house, stated she and her sister looked specifically for a house that was at least 50 years old. She commented that they could tell the house was a "swan" underneath its rough exterior and that the former owners had not appreciated the house for what it may have represented to the community. She expressed that they wish to bring the house HPC MINUTES -1- January 12, 1993 back as closely as possible to its original state. She asked the Commission to forward any information about the history of the house along to her. Commissioner Billings stated he had addresses of some of the Allen family and he would pass along that information. Commissioners Arner and Tessier expressed pleasure that the owners are seeking landmark status for the property. Commissioner Billings stated that this house was not the Allen's original house. He commented that the Allens previously lived in a house around the corner that belonged to the water company. Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. MOTION: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Billings, carried 6-0-1, to accept staff's recommendation for a Landmark designation for LD 93-01 and forward that recommendation to City Council for final approval. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: COOPER -carried ' MOTION: Moved by Arner, seconded by Haskvitz, carried 6-0-1 to approve Mill's Act Contract 93-01 and forward it to Council for their approval. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES-: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: COOPER -carried B. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 93-03 AND MILLS ACT CONTRACT 93-02 - VANESSA AND WAYNE SMITH - An application to designate the Hoppe House, located at 6155 East Avenue, as a local Landmark. In addition, review of a request to enter into a Mills Act Contract for the said property - APN: 225-191-16. This action will be forwarded to the City Council for final action and the date of the Public Hearing before City Council will be separately noticed. Anthea Hartig presented the staff report. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. There were no public comments. HPC MINUTES -2- January 12, 1993 Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. She commented on the excellent restoration work the applicant's have done. There was discussion on the location of the former local town of Grapeland. It was thought that Grapeland covered areas in what we now call Fontana and Lytle Creek. Commissioner Tessier asked about the size of the applicant's lot. Ms. Hartig stated it is a half acre lot. Chairman. Banks stated she felt that, should additional changes come up later involving the Mills Act for this property, those changes should be deferred to staff rather than coming before the Commission again. The Commission concurred. MOTION: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1, to accept staff's recommendation for a Landmark designation for LD 93-03 and forward that recommendation to City Council for final approval. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, HASKVITZ,. SCHMIDT, TESSIER ' NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: COOPER -carried MOTION: 'Moved by Tessier, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1, to approve Mill's Act Contract 93-02 and forward it to Council for their approval. Motion carried by .the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS:. ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: COOPER -carried C. DEMOLITION REVIEW AND LANDMARK. DESIGNATION 93-02 OR POINT OF HISTORIC INTEREST 93-01 - NORA CHAO/CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A proposal to demolish the Etiwanda Auto Repair, a potential local landmark, located at 12906 Base Line Road, and a proposal to either reevaluate the potential significance of the structure or designate it as a local Landmark or Point of Historic Interest - APN: 227-131-17. This action will be forwarded to the City Council for final action and the date of the Public Hearing before City Council will be separately noticed. Anthea Hartig presented the staff report. She stated that since the staff report was written some question has arisen regarding the 1928-29 construction date. It seems that the building may actually have been constructed during 1946-47, which would mean that it is not subject to the Unreinforced Masonry HPC MINUTES -3- January 12, 1993 Building (URMB) Ordinance. She stated she had also discovered that the building was built by Henry Klusman, who was a locally renowned contractor. she commented that the staff report will require amending after further research and suggested the item he continued until next month's meeting. Chairman Banks stated she had spoken with Lawrence Mueller, who bought the property in 1945, and he told her that the garage was not on the property at that time. She stated that he told her that Mr. Klusman could not have built the building prior to 1946 and that he was willing to sign an affidavit to that effect. She also talked to Hap Harne, who married Tom Harne in 1944; they lived in Virginia for two years before coming to California and moving onto the property and hiring Mr. Klusman to construct the garage. Ms. Harne also stated she would sign a statement reflecting that the garage could not have been built prior to 1946. MOTION: Moved by Arner, seconded by Schmidt, carried 6-0-1, to continue the public hearing to the regularly scheduled HPC meeting of February 9, 1993. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: COOPER -carried OLD BUSINESS ' D. UPDATE ON PEARSON FILLING STATION AND GARAGE - ORAL REPORT Anthea Hartig presented the staff report. She commented that staff has not heard from the State Office of Historic Preservation regarding the potential for national landmark status for the garage. Chairman Banks asked about the status of the project with City Council. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated that the Council indicated at their last meeting they did not wish to delay this matter any further. Chairman Banks asked if the canopy could be moved and preserved and the HABS/HAER drawings completed prior to declaring the garage landmark. Ms. Hartig stated that is what her staff report to City Council recommends. NEW BUSINESS There was no new business to discuss. COMMISSION BUSINESS There was no Commission business to discuss. HPC MINUTES -4- January 12, 1993 ANNOUNCEMENTS Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, announced that the Ledig house is proceeding slowly because of the rain but it is listed with an agent and they have started advertising for its sale. Mr. Henderson also mentioned that he had received information from the State of Historic Preservation regarding the Intermodal Surface Transportation and Efficiency Act 1991 (ISTEA) program. He listed some potential HPC projects which could qualify for funding under this act: 1 . Purchase and rehabilitation of the Cucamonga Pioneer Winery Property as a potential site for the City's Metrolink station. 2. Purchase or improvement of the Southern Pacific line right-of-way as a bicycle trail through the City connecting to the Upland commuter rail site. 3. Purchase or improvement of the Pearson Filling Station on Route 66 for rehabilitation and/or moving the building. 4. Purchase and conservation of portions of Etiwanda and Alta Loma North Sphere areas for habitat conservation as an enhancement to the Route 30 Freeway. Mr. Henderson commented that ISTEA is looking for volunteers to serve on the Statewide Transportation Enhancement Advisory Board and that Commission members might want to consider serving on the board. Chairman Banks suggested the possibility of moving structures along Route 30 and the placement of rock curbing in Etiwanda as potential projects. Mr. Henderson stated these projects could be considered eligible. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 6:05 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Shelley A. Pe`t:relli Secretary HPC MINUTES -5- January 12, 1993 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting December 8, 1992 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Gene Billings (arrived at 5:08 PM) , Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt (arrived at 5:05 PM) , Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Cooper, seconded by Tessier, carried 5-0-2, to approve the November 10, 1992 minutes. + t s r OLD BUSINESS ' A. STATUS UPDATE ON THE PEARSON GARAGE AND FILLING STATION - Oral Report Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated that the Council staff report contains a cost analysis for relocating the building and the fact that staff has not heard from the State Historic Preservation Officer. He further stated that the Public Works subcommittee (which includes two Council members) has met twice to discuss the project and has not come to a conclusion regarding the improvements for the intersection. He further commented that the committee will be recommending to the City Engineer that the item be continued for another 30 days until they hear from the State Historic Preservation Officer. Mr. Henderson stated that the traffic signal on the northwest corner will not be placed in its ultimate location at this time because the property owner does not wish to dedicate his property for the needed right-of-way. Chairman Banks asked if Council still wanted the traffic signal placed on the northeast corner in its ultimate location. HPC MINUTES -1- December 8, 1992 Mr. Henderson stated that traffic signal placement is undetermined at this point but he will keep the Commission informed about any further developments. PUBLIC HEARINGS B. HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST DESIGNATION 92-01 - H. W. MINOR RESIDENCE - A proposal to designate the H. W. Minor residence, located at 10304 19th Street, as a local Point of Historic Interest - APN 1076-141-01 . Related file: Tentative Tract 15531 . Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Banks commented that the Commission was pleased with the work Hix Development did on the Lord house and that they were looking forward to working with the developer on this project. She stated that the project had been discussed at the Commission's last meeting, including discussion about the perimeter fencing. She questioned if the perimeter fencing and the plaque/monument could be combined with the corner pilaster because there is not a great deal of room on the property for both. Mr. Hayes replied that something like that could be done. Commissioner Haskvitz suggested a design similar to the Schowalter rock pile plaque that is mounted on a rock pilaster. Chairman Banks stated she thought it could be similar to that design. She further commented that she felt comfortable with staff reviewing the plans for the garage without coming back to the Commission. The Commission concurred. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. Bob Yoder, Hix Development, 437 So. Cataract, San Dimas, stated he wished to clarify that the owners want a three-car garage so that is what Hix will be designing for them. Millard Herr, owner of the house, 10304 19th, stated the house has aluminum siding instead of wood and any attempts to alter it would prove difficult because the old siding underneath is in bad shape. He commented that the garage is the same original architecture as the house. He said he is interested in restoring the front porch which he didn't think would be too difficult because the 'interior of the porch is still in its original state. Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tessier asked for clarification regarding where future freeway access would be in relation to the project. Mr. Hayes responded that a sound attenuation wall would be constructed close to the area in question but there would be no freeway access there. MOTION: Moved by Billings, seconded by Cooper, carried unanimously 7-0-0, recommending approval of historic Point of Interest 92-01, the H. W. Minor house, including recommendations made by staff. HPC MINUTES -2- December 8, 1992 ' Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried ANNOUNCEMENTS Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, updated the Commission on the following projects: 1 . Cucamonga County Water District (CCWD) is in escrow for the purchase of the China House. The project is on the CCWD agenda next week. 2. Alta Loma Packing House project is still on hold. Staff is trying to move the residential housing portion of the project along in the meantime. 3. The Redevelopment Agency (RDA) has conceptually approved the purchase of the Regina/Ellena Winery which could possibly be used for senior housing or a mixed use project. ' 4. The Gilbert House should be on the next agenda for final determination of its status for the HPC Historic List. 5. Rehabilitation at the Ledig house is progressing on a timely basis. The house will be placed on the ground when the weather clears up. 6. Rehabilitation at Chaffey-Garcia house is moving along and the contractor's portion should be finished by January 1993. 7. The Stoebe property is out of probate and there should be no reason why clean up and restoration of the house cannot begin now. Code Enforcement has been given the go ahead to issue citations on property if the property owner does not start cleaning it up. Commissioner Tessier asked if anything had been done regarding the HPC newsletter for historic property owners. Mr. Henderson stated that the Commission decided at their last meeting that Chairman Banks and Commissioner Arner would work on the development of that item. Chairman Banks stated she and Commissioner Arner would be working on that project in the future. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. HPC MINUTES -3- December 8, 1992 ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 5:.32 P.M. ' Respectfully submitted, 1 Shelley A. Petrelli HPC MINUTES -4- December 8, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting November 10, 1992 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Marsha Banks, Gene Billings (arrived at 5:09 PM) , Ada Cooper, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Melicent Arner, Alan Haskvitz STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Cooper, seconded by Schmidt, carried 4-0-3, to approve the August 6, and September 8, 1992 minutes. NEW BUSINESS A. REVIEW OF TENTATIVE TRACT 15531 - HIX DEVELOPMENT - A proposed 30 lot subdivision of land on the site of the H.W. Minor residence, 10304 19th Street, and the Alta Loma Egg Ranch, located on the north side of 19th Street, between Mayberry and Catilla Avenues - APN: 1076-131-01 and 1076-141-02. Related File.: Tree Removal Permit No. 92-20.. Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Tessier asked if Hix was the same developer that the Commission worked with on the Lord House. Mr. Hayes responded affirmatively. Chairman Banks asked that staff try to ensure that there would be adequate clearance around the older structure so that it would still maintain an acceptable yard. Mr. Hayes stated that one boundary is close to City minimum requirements and would require staff approval for a minor modification. HPC MINUTES -1- November 10, 1992 Chairman Banks asked if the garage and store would be torn down. Mr. Hayes responded that is what the, applicant is proposing. Commissioner Banks expressed her pleasure with the quality of the work completed by the developer at the Lord house and hoped the Commission could expect the same for this project. She then asked the project developer, Mr. .Bob Yoder, if he wanted to speak to the Commission regarding the project. Mr. Bob Yoder, Hix Development, 437 Cataract, San Dimas, commented that the present owners of the house will be retaining ownership of the house. He also mentioned the current owners want to put in a three-car garage which will have access from the new cul de sac since there will no longer be access from 19th Street. Commissioner Banks asked if they would be installing a wall on Mayberry Street side of the property. Mr. Yoder responded affirmatively. He showed the Commission the wall placement on their plans. Chairman Banks asked what the relationship is between this Minor house and the Minor house on Hermosa. Commissioner Cooper stated that the Minors were brothers; Wilbur Minor (former owner of the H. W. Minor house) was a local butcher and Charles Minor (former owner of the house on Hermosa) was a local blacksmith in the 1920s. Chairman Banks suggested setting the Minor house for a public hearing next ' month. The Commission concurred. Motion: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Billings, approved 5-0-2,, to accept staff's recommendation to set a public hearing to determine a Point of Interest designation on the H. W. Minor residence and Egg Ranch. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, HASKVITZ -carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS B. CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED MINOR ALTERATION TO THOMAS WINERY BUILDING - oral Report Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, informed the Commission about a potential proposal to put a liquor store in the center on the south side of the building ' around the area where the water wheel is located. She said the proposal would HPC MINUTES -2- November 10, 1992 include moving the water wheel to create a new opening into the building. She stated that she wanted to see if the Commission had any feelings about the proposal. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated that he thought a liquor store would be a contextually incompatible use within that portion of the center. Chairman Banks stated she did not see a problem with moving the water wheel or creating an opening; however, she was concerned about how the signage would look for that particular use in that portion of the center. Otto Kroutil, Deputy City Planner, commented that once this type .of use is established, it is difficult to control the types of signs, lights, and other advertising that goes along with this type of establishment. ANNOUNCEMENTS Commission Tessier asked what is happening with the Pearson Garage and Filling Station. Ms. Hartig stated that documentation has been sent to the State Historic Preservation Officer and staff is awaiting a response. commissioner Tessier asked if this would be done by the 60-day deadline set by Council. Ms. Hartig stated she had spoken with the preservation officer about the ' deadline and he told her he would "walk" the forms down to the review board. She also stated the applicant for the project had informed her that he is currently interviewing historic architects for the project. Chairman Banks asked that, if any information came from the State prior to the next meeting, that the information be forwarded to the Commission. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 5:36 PM. Respectfully submitted, l Shelley A. Petrelli Secretary HPC MINUTES -3- November 10, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting October 13, 1992 Acting Chairman Bob Schmidt called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5: 12 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Acting Chairman Schmidt then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Gene Billings, Ada Cooper, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Marsha Banks, Alan Haskvitz STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary 1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Cooper, seconded by Billings, carried 5-0-2, to approve the August 6, and September 8, 1992 minutes. t OLD BUSINESS A. UPDATE ON PEARSON FILLING STATION AND GARAGE, LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ETIWANDA AVENUE AND ,FOOTHILL BOULEVARD - APN: 1100-161-02 - Oral report (City Council staff report sent under separate cover previously) Mr. Brad Buller, City Planner, spoke with the Commission regarding the results of the City Council meeting. He commented that the Council continued the item for 60 days so the Planning and Engineering Departments could check into additional information on the potential National Landmark status and other options regarding the project. He stated that the Wattson Company has indicated that they are prepared to have the HABS/HAER drawings done for the canopy. He asked if anyone remembered if there was another concrete building near the filling station. ' Commissioner Cooper indicated that there was a small school building near by that had to be removed when the aquaduct went through the area. HPC MINUTES -1- October 13, 1992 Mr. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated that landmark designation does not prevent demolition of a structure, but it does require (through CEQA) a certain level of analysis be done. He further stated that if it is determined that it is not economically feasible to retain the structure, the Commission would then determine mitigations and a statement of overriding considerations for the site. Commissioner Tessier asked if the verification had come through from the insurance company stating the canopy was unsafe. Mr. Buller stated it has not and the Council did not ask for the verification. NEW BUSINESS B. ANNUAL FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE ON NOVEMBER 14, 1992 - "15 YEARS OF LIFE IN THE TRI-COMMUNITIES" - Consideration of Historic Preservation Commission Participation Mr. Henderson stated that each year the Community Services Department asks all the Commissions to consider representation at the Annual Founder's Day Parade. He commented it is up to the Commission to determine if they want to be in the parade and to decide what they want to do in the parade. The Commission discussed the parade and determined that they would not ' participate this year; they decided they would like to put together a study committee for next year. COMMISSION BUSINESS C. DISCUSSION OF THE ANNUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION LETTER TO OWNERS OF LANDMARK PROPERTIES AND POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES Mr. Henderson talked about the current Historic Preservation letter that goes out to landmark owners. He stated he did not think the letter really accomplishes the HPC's goals as far as public outreach is concerned. He suggested putting together an annual newsletter containing information on what is going on in preservation locally, nationally, etc. He explained that the Commission could write articles for the newsletter and staff could compile the information, add graphics, publish and distribute it. He said staff could send it out to local landmark owners and it also could be available as a handout at both the counter and other City facilities. The Commission concurred that they would prefer ' to do an annual newsletter rather than the current letter. 1� HPC MINUTES -2- October 13, 1992 D. STATUS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS - Oral Report Mr. Henderson updated the Commission on the Ledig House. He stated the contracts and building permits have been issued to begin the rehabilitation of the Ledig House and the construction has been started. He commented that the contractor has done construction projects in the City of Industry and other cities; the contractor will also he doing the reconstruction of the Chaffey- Garcia House, which should also begin shortly. Commissioner Arner asked about the status of the Stoebe House. Mr. Henderson stated that the Building Department and the Code Enforcement Departments have both been in contact with the owner to start clean up on at least the outside of the house. He said staff will continue to work on resolving the problems with the owners even while the house is in probate. Mr. Henderson stated the Chaffey-Garcia barn has been approved by the Planning Commission and the developer has donated the money. He commented that staff is awaiting a completed plan and the project should go out for bid shortly; the barn should be completed about the save time as the house. Mr. Henderson stated that the Main Street Houses (the Carlo and Guidera homes) are complete and have been moved to Main Street. He said they are scheduling ' an open house/ribbon-cutting ceremony sometime next week. Mr. Henderson commented the Lord House landscaping improvements are complete and they have a potential buyer for the house. # # * * * E. PRESENTATION OF SLIDE SHOW AND RESULTS OF THE CALIFORNIA PRESERVATION FOUNDATION CONFERENCE HELD IN EUREKA, CALIFORNIA The slide show was presented. * * * # * ANNOUNCEMENTS Mr. Henderson mentioned the California USA Route 66 Group is having a Route 66 event to commemorate the 66th anniversary of Route 66 at the Santa Monica Pier on November 15 at noon; its an all day festival, classic car show, free public concert, and displays of photos and memorabilia. Mr. Henderson announced that the 1993 California Preservation Foundation Conference will be held in Long Beach April 22-25, 1993. He stated the National Conference will be in St. Louis, Missouri, but available funding is doubtful. He also commented that money will be available for state and local conferences. HPC MINUTES -3- October 13, 1992 i PUBLIC COMMENTS No public comments. E * r r ADJOURNMENT - The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 7:05 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Cx . Shelley A. Petrelli Secretary HPC MINUTES -4- October 13, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting September 8, 1992 Chairman Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, carried 5-0-1-1 (Billings absent, Haskvitz abstained) , to approve the August 25, 1992 Special Meeting minutes. • r * a OLD BUSINESS A. SETTING PRIORITY INTERVIEWS FOR THE CITY'S ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. She asked the Commission if there were any Mueller descendants. Chairman Banks replied that Mr. and Mrs. Lawrence Mueller live on East Avenue and are both natives of the area. She also mentioned they would be her top choice in the Etiwanda area for an oral interview. Commissioner Cooper stated her top choice is Ben Vizo for Cucamonga. She stated he worked at his father's feed and lumber yard in Cucamonga and his family also had citrus orchards in the area. Commissioner Arner asked if Chaffey College had ever done any oral history interviews. HPC MINUTES -1- Sept 8, 1992 Commissioner Cooper replied that she, Art Bridge, Bob Hickox, and Gene Billings had participated in video interviews conducted by Chaffey College a few years ago. Commissioner Arner mentioned that Dan Milliken directed the construction of the Chaffey College campus and he was also a grape industry expert. She thought he would be a good candidate for an interview. She stated she would check with the Upland Library about the possibility of making copies of their oral interviews with locally significant people.. Chairman Banks felt if certain individuals had been interviewed already, that any money for oral interviews should be used to gather information from different people. Commissioners Cooper and Arner did not agree with Chairman Banks stating they felt much of the current information available did not contain enough detail about the interviewees. Ms. Hartig stated she would like to get a general prioritization from the Commission regarding oral history interviews. Commissioner Cooper mentioned Larry and Vera Ornelas would be good candidates for oral interviews regarding the North Town community. Chairman Banks suggested that the Commission should alternate their choice of individuals for oral interviews between the three original communities. She stated that aging candidates should be given top priority in her opinion. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner suggested picking three or four candidates from each community to be interviewed. Commissioner Arner suggested getting in contact with the Segovia family because they taught school for many years in the area. Commissioner Cooper suggested contacting Julia Arrarias, Mary Santilucito Rasmussen, and Paul Lucas. Mr. Henderson suggested Chairman Banks prepare the ranking of Etiwanda people, Commissioner Cooper prepare a list of Cucamonga people, and Commissioner Billings prepare a list for Alta Loma. Chairman Banks asked when the Commission needed to submit an application to the foundation for money. Ms. Hartig responded that an application would need to be submitted next spring. r HPC MINUTES -2- Sept 8, 1992 NEW BUSINESS B. REVIEW OF MILLS ACT APPLICATION FOR THE WARREN-THORPE HOUSE, LOCATED AT 6112 HELLMAN AVENUE - APN: 1062-381-05 Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, gave the staff report. Chairman Banks stated she thought there was another cement-coated structure in the City located on East Avenue, south of Summit, on the east side of the street; it is referred to locally as the Etiwanda Dairy House. Mr. Albert Sena, 6112 Hellman Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, owner of the Warren- Thorpe house, told the Commission he had spoken to Elliott Nelson, who lived in the house in 1918. He stated Mr. Nelson told him he bought both houses and 20 acres of citrus for $35,600 from the Goerlitz family, but he was forced to sell two years later because of a bad citrus crop. Moved by Cooper, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1, to approve and forward to City Council Mills Act 92-01. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried r • * t r COMMISSION BUSINESS C. HISTORICAL STATUS UPDATE ON THE GILBERT HOUSE, LOCATED AT 7418 ARCHIBALD - APN: 208-031-058 - Oral Report Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, gave an oral update on the property. He stated that the property is not on the current historic status list. He commented he found no file on 7418 Archibald, but in the file on 7404 Archibald, he found that another similar two-story house was torn down a few years ago. Chairman Banks and Commissioner Cooper both indicated the house that was torn down was not an old house nor a two-story. Mr. Henderson stated there are not pictures in the file so it is difficult to tell which house the file refers to. He stated that staff will do additional research on the property and bring it back to Commission in November. Commissioner Arner volunteered to go to the County Clerk and research the property. HPC MINUTES -3- Sept 8, 1992 The Commission discussed the historic bike tour guide now available at the .Planning counter. Mr. Henderson stated it was created by Principal Planner Dan Coleman and he felt Mr. Coleman had done an excellent job. The Commission agreed with Mr. Henderson and commented that it was an excellent resource for the community. Commissioner Arner did state that she would have liked the Commission to be involved with the preparation of the material because there are additional historical sites that could have been placed on the map. r • r r The Commission discussed organizing to help educate students in the local school districts on our local history. This had been done previously with success and they felt it should be started up again. Mr. Henderson stated the Chairman could write a letter to the school districts informing them that historical resources and guest speakers are available on request. ANNOUNCEMENTS Mr. Henderson gave an update of the Pearson Filling Station and Garage. He , told the Commission the item was scheduled for City Council on October 7. He also informed the Commission that he and the City Building Official, Jerry Grant, had been out to inspect the canopy on the gas station and Mr. Grant was concerned about its structural integrity. He felt the canopy was unstable. Mr. Henderson said they also found evidence that possibly the underground gasoline storage tanks could still be there. Mr. Henderson stated he contacted the Fire District for an inspection and was awaiting a response from them. He suggested the Commission send representatives to the City Council meeting. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 6:00 PM. Respectfully submitted Shelley A. Pe elli Secretary HPC MINUTES -4- Sept 8, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Special Meeting August 25, 1992 Chairman Marsha Banks called the special meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Gene Billings, Ada Cooper, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Alan Haskvitz STAFF PRESENT: Barrye Hanson, Sr. Civil Engineer, Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary PUBLIC HEARING A. CONSIDERATION OF A CHANGE OF THE HISTORIC STATUS AND APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST OR LANDMARK DESIGNATION FILED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, CONSIDERATION OF A DEMOLITION REQUEST BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND THE POSSIBLE ESTABLISHMENT OF MITIGATION MEASURES THEREIN FOR THE PEARSON/STEVENS FILLING STATION AND GARAGE, LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ETIWANDA AVENUE AND FOOTHILL BOULEVARD - APN: 1100-161-02 - Consideration and determination of the historic status, application for Point of Interest or Landmark Designation, range of appropriate project alternatives, and level of appropriate mitigations for the partial demolition of the structure. The actions and _ recommendations include the following: Landmark status, Point of Interest status, other project alternatives, and/or mitigation measures prior to demolition. Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Tessier asked if the traffic signals were already located in the ultimate location. HPC MINUTES -1- August 25, 1992 Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, replied that temporary signals had been installed approximately half-way between where the signals used to be and where they would be located ultimately. Chairman Banks asked for clarification on the concern regarding endangerment of pedestrians from traffic at the intersection of Etiwanda Avenue and Foothill Boulevard because there seems to be little, if any, pedestrian traffic at the location. Barrye Hanson, Sr. Civil Engineer, stated this is a concern the property owner brought up, but it had not yet been substantiated by the Engineering Division. Commissioner Cooper questioned why the improvements to the intersection would need to be completed prior to widening Foothill Boulevard. Mr. Hanson, stated that it is standard policy to finish off intersections at their ultimate location to ensure the hardware gets placed in the proper position. Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. Barry Vantiger, 2177 N. 1st Avenue, Upland, one of the property owners, stated that because of a series of events beyond their control (the development of Wal-Mart and the eventual widening of Foothill Boulevard), they feel they have been placed in a precarious position as far as development or demolition of the building on their property is concerned. He stated the property is currently in use as a commercial operation. He also commented that they eventually want to develop the property, but they cannot do anything until a flood control district is developed for the area. He remarked that they are in favor of demolition because they feel it will occur eventually to make room for the widening of Route 66 (Foothill Boulevard) . He stated he thought it would be better to remove the building now and reconstruct it later with new materials (restoring it to its original look) and that they would be willing to do that. Commissioner Schmidt asked if temporarily fencing the canopy with chain link fence would help the current traffic situation of cars cutting through the canopy. Mr. Vantiger responded it would restrict his current tenant's access to the building and it is only a temporary solution. Gary Womak, 5366 Evening Canyon Way, Rancho Cucamonga, real estate broker, stated he has been working with the Gemmel family on property during the rezoning from residential to commercial. He stated they favored the commercial zoning because the surrounding area is commercially zoned and they felt that residential zoning of their property was out of place. He further commented they felt pedestrian traffic would increase on the property when the new shopping center is complete which in turn would create a greater liability for them. He suggested leaving the building in tact, moving the canopy to the back of the building, and reconstructing the canopy later. He stated that, if HPC MINUTES -2- August 25, 1992 the property is developed eventually, they will incorporate the building into the development at the time. He said, with the canopy being in the way of the ultimate right-of-way, it will likely result in the cancellation of the owner's liability insurance which will then prohibit having a tenant in the building and result in a loss of income to the property owner. He commented they expected increased traffic in the area because of the shopping center and they would like to get the street and intersections widened now to accommodate that traffic. Chairman Banks asked if the owners of property have developed any concepts on what they will do with the property later. Mr. Womak stated that they had two or three preliminary site plans done when the property was rezoned and all of them utilized the building on the site. He stated buildings on corners have good visibility and he felt the building could be rehabilitated. Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. Commissioner Tessier said she thought moving the canopy to the back could work and it would keep the building in tact. Chairman Banks clarified that if the canopy were moved to a position that did not face Route 66, the building would no longer qualify for National Register status. She stated if the entire building and canopy were moved together directly north (facing Route 66) it would still qualify. Commissioner Arner stated she would not want the building to lose any of its authenticity. She also said she thought it could be a good tourist resource. Commissioner Billings stated he had concern over moving the building and asked if it could even be done. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner replied it was possible, but it would be very expensive. Commissioner Cooper commented she thought the street widening should be completed prior to altering the intersection. Chairman Banks stated she was pleased that the applicant recognized the structure as an historic structure and was considering incorporating it into some development on the property. She expressed that she thought a mutually acceptable solution could be worked out between the City and the applicant. She had spoken to some of the historical families in the Etiwanda area and she had been told of their involvement in the Route 66 celebration. She was also informed that this filling station was considered quite unique and special by Route 66 historians. She stated that it was her feeling the the station had significance, to both. the City and the applicant, and wished to explore the possibility of obtaining National Register status. She remarked that adaptive reuse of the building was definitely possible. HPC MINUTES -3- August 25, 1992 MOTION: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, unanimously carried 6-0-1, to recommend to City Council approval of Landmark Designation 92-02, the Pearson/Stevens Filling Station and Garage. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: HASKVITZ -carried Commissioner Tessier asked what would happen if the signal poles were not moved now. Mr. Murphy stated that the Commission had the option of leaving the poles in the interim location and then, upon development of the property, relocating or moving the building when the poles are moved to their ultimate location. Mr. Henderson stated that leaving the poles in the interim location creates no changes in traffic, liability, etc. Commissioner Tessier asked if a temporary berm could be installed to discourage traffic from cutting through the property, via the canopy. Mr. Murphy stated an asphalt curbing could be installed temporarily to eliminate the traffic problem; it would also allow access to the tenant currently conducting business in the building. Chairman Banks asked who would be paying for the focused Environmental Impact Report (EIR) . Mr. Henderson replied that it would paid for either by the owner on the northeast corner or by Foothill Marketplace property owners. Chairman Banks commented that she did not want to back the current owners into a corner regarding paying for an EIR, etc. because they are not currently ready to develop the property. She felt improvements could wait until they were ready to develop. Commissioner Cooper asked if the insurance company would continue to provide coverage for the building if the ultimate street improvements were not made now. Mr. Henderson stated the City has received no documentation from the insurance company indicating they would cancel coverage. He remarked that fencing the property seemed to be a viable alternative because there is enough area on the site to accommodate circulation and access to the current tenant. He stated proper placement of gates would secure the property as well as eliminate the traffic problem. HPC MINUTES - -4- August 25, 1992 Chairman Banks stated she thought two-sided fencing would work to eliminate the traffic also. Mr. Henderson said he did not think it has been demonstrated that demolition is the only alternative. He commented staff would like to see further studies done on the site. Commissioner Cooper asked if it was correct to assume that, if the signals were not moved now, Foothill Marketplace would not be paying for the street corner improvements when the are completed later and that owners of the filling station property would bare these costs totally. Mr. Henderson replied that was correct although the property owners would be responsible for certain development costs whenever they developed their property. He stated that currently Foothill Marketplace is paying for the signals, curbs, gutters, asphalt, etc. , and the filling station property owners would be responsible to pay to move the signals. Chairman Banks asked if Foothill Marketplace could set aside money in a trust and/or bond to be used later to move the signal. Mr. Henderson said that was possible. Barrye Hanson, Sr. Civil Engineer, stated that City policy has always been to have the developer pay for the total signal improvements and then reimburse them with money from the transportation fund. He stated most of the cost would be reimbursed to the developer. He further stated that in cases of property owner resistance, that particular property owner would then bare the cost of the improvements when they developed their property later. MOTION: Moved by Arner, seconded by Schmidt, unanimously carried 6-0-1, to recommend to City Council that the ultimate street signal configuration be delayed and remain in the interim location until the property owner on the northeast corner is ready to develop their property and, if Council does not wish to delay the ultimate location of the signals, that a focused Environmental Impact Report and various other studies be prepared regarding the impact on the historic status of the property. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: HASKVITZ -carried HPC MINUTES -5- August 25, 1992 PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. x + * x Commissioner Cooper stated the Gilbert House on the west side Archibald Avenue, south of Base Line, is currently for sale and she was concerned because it has never been established as a landmark. Mr. Henderson stated that staff would check the historic site list and write a letter to the owner if it is on the list. He further stated the Commission would be updated on the results on the next agenda. x �e • r r ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 6:20 PM. Respectfully submitted, G . Shelley A. Petre Secretary HPC MINUTES -6- August 25, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting August 6, 1992 Vice-Chair Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Vice-Chair Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Gene Billings, Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: NONE STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Arner, carried 7-0-0, to approve the June 4, 1992 HPC minutes. Moved by Haskvitz, seconded by Cooper, carried 7-0-0 to approve the July 2, 1992 HPC minutes. r t t r r CONFIRMATION OF NEW CHAIRMAN AND ELECTION OF NEW VICE-CHAIR Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Cooper, carried unanimously 7-0, to elect Vice- Chair Banks as Chairman of the Historic Preservation Commission. The motion carried by the following vote: AYES; COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried HPC MINUTES -1- August 6, 1992 Moved by Arner, seconded by Schmidt, carried unanimously 7-0, to .elect Commissioner Haskvitz as Vice-Chairman. The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS.: NONE -carried PUBLIC HEARINGS A. LANDMARK DESIGNATION 92-01 - CUCAMONGA SERVICE CLUB AND TH2 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - A proposal to designate the Central Public School (known as Sweeten Hall) as an Historic Landmark, located at 9324 San Bernardino Road, Rancho Cucamonga, - APN: 208-111-09. Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. i Chairman Banks opened the public hearing. Chairman Banks questioned if the Sweeten Hall building is on the list of historic buildings requiring retrofitting for earthquakes. ; Ms. Hartig stated that the building is not on the list and that it has come through recent earthquakes without sustaining any damage. Ray McAlvain, 8661 18th Street, Rancho Cucamonga, President of the Cucamonga Service Club, stated the building is in good shape structurally. Commissioner Arner asked if the baseball field was still there. Mr. McAlvain replied that the backfield where Rollie Fingers played ball is still there and so are the concession stands; however, the dugouts have been removed. He stated that modulars are being placed in the backfield to accommodate children participating in the Head Start program. He stated they still plan to keep the hall open for public use. Chairman Banks stated it is gratifying to see owners seek out landmark designation for their property. Chairman Banks closed the public hearing. Moved by Cooper, seconded by Schmidt, carried 7-0, to recommend Central Public School (Sweeten Hall) to the City Council for Landmark status. HPC MINUTES -2- August 6, 1992 x x x x x COMMISSION BUSINESS C. INITIAL STATUS REVIEW OF DINER LOCATED AT 9656 FOOTHILL BOULEVARD, RANCHO CUCAMONGA - APN: 208-111-09 Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Chairman Banks asked how the diner would fit into the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan as far the plans to use craftsman-style houses on Foothill to create pedestrian walkways and boutiques. Ms. Hartig stated that it is a small, awkward size parcel. She recommends the structure be changed from Survey Determined Significance (SUS) to Survey Determined Insignificant (SDI) because the structure does not meet the usual standards of the Historic Preservation Commission ordinance. Commissioner Haskvitz stated he would like to explore the building further. He stated he would like to see it stay in use. He asked about the potential for valuable artifacts being located in the area. Ms. Hartig stated she would check the archaeological map. Moved by Haskvitz, seconded by Schmidt, carried 6-1, to change the status of the Foothill Diner from Survey Undetermined Significant to Survey Determined Insignificant. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Regarding the secondary item in the staff report to allow staff to make the final determination on SUS structures only, Chairman Banks stated she felt strongly that a policy should not be implemented allowing staff to downgrade the status of historical structures; if staff feels a structure should be downgraded, it should come before the whole Commission to make the final decision. She felt 'staff should only be upgrading structures. Commissioner Arner stated she agreed and commented the reason she voted no on this item was because she felt she needed more time to research it before deciding. Commissioners Haskvitz and Tessier also agreed with Chairman Banks statement. ' Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the reason this was even mentioned in the staff report was because staff was looking for ways to streamline the process. HPC MINUTES -5- August 6, 1992 Chairman Banks explained that, before Historic Preservation Commission was part of Planning, resources were destroyed without consulting the Commission. She said that although current staff is very protective of our historical resources, this may not always be the case, and she did not want to establish a policy for that reason. Commissioner Arner commented the Commissioners felt they all had little bits of information from the community that may have escaped staff and could be important. D. CHANGING OF DAY AND TIME OF THE REGULAR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETINGS Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, gave the staff report. Chairman Banks questioned the start time of 5:00 p.m. She recalled originally the Cc-mission had discussed starting at 4:30 p. m. She was concerned that an hour was not enough time. Ms. Hartig stated staff felt, after reviewing the public hearings held over the last couple of years, that the later start time would cause the least amount of disruption to everyone's schedule. Chairman Banks stated that in most cases the meeting could continue past 6:00 p.m. until meeting was over; in the case of public hearings, the Commission could adjourn and reconvene at 7:00 p.m. The Commission concurred with Chairman Banks suggestion. Moved by Haskvitz, seconded by Arner, unanimously carried 7-0, recommending to City Council that the Historic Preservation Commission meet on the second Tuesday of each month at 5:00 p.m. and keep the meeting going until the Commission's business is complete. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried E. APPOINTMENT OF A NEW REPRESENTATIVE TO THE T PRESERVATION SUBCOMMITTEE Chairman Banks volunteered to take Steve Preston's place on the subcommittee and Commissioner Arner volunteered to be the alternate. HPC MINUTES -6- August 6, 1992 ANNOUNCEMENTS Mr. Brad Buller, City Planner announced an application has been submitted to demolish the canopy structure at the gas station at Foothill Boulevard and Etiwanda Avenue. He stated the applicant has submitted the application because the ultimate street improvements would increase pedestrian traffic under the the canopy and their insurance company said they would cancel them because the situation could create "an attractive nuisance". Mr. Buller asked the Commission if they wanted to have the public hearing at their next regular meeting or if they wanted to schedule it for a special meeting. The Commission concurred to hold a special meeting regarding the gas station on August 25, at 5:00 p.m. # + # + + PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 8:55 p.m. to a special meeting on August 25, 1992, at 5:00 p.m., at the Civic Center Council Chamber, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Respectfully submitted, a . Shelley A. Petrelli Secretary HPC MINUTES -7- August 6, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting July 2, 1992 Acting Chairman Haskvitz called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Acting Chairman Haskvitz then led the pledge of allegiance. Mayor Stout swore in Anne Tessier as an Historic Preservation Commissioner. + + + + + ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Anne Tessier COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Marsha Banks, Gene Billings, Bob Schmidt STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary + + + + + APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Arner, seconded by Cooper, carried 3-0-3-1 with Tessier abstaining, to approve the May 2, 1992, minutes. + + + + + DIRECTOR'S REPORTS REVIEW OF MASI TOWN CENTER PUBLIC ART PROGRAM Beverly Nissen, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Acting Chairman Haskvitz invited public comment. HPC MINUTES -1- July 2, 1992 Michael Scandiffio, The Scandiffio Company, 1510 Riverside Drive, Burbank discussed the site plan. He noted they plan to relocate the LaFourcade arch to over the doorway of a restaurant. He discussed the proposed Vintner's Walk. Ray Desselle, Peter Brandow & Associates, 150 Paularino Avenue, Suite 277, Costa Mesa, landscape architect, showed a colored plan of the landscaping. He discussed the proposed landscaping along Vintner's Walk. Commissioner Arner expressed concern about adequacy of shade in the parking lot. Mr. Desselle indicated they would be planting trees which would provide adequate shade. Commissioner Arner asked if there would be grape vines on the trellis. Mr. Desselle responded grape vines could be used, but they would be hard to maintain in that area. He suggested that grape vines be used elsewhere on the site where maintenance would not be as much of a factor and they could be blended in with other plants so that the area would not look bare during the dormant season. He preferred the use of other vines on the trellis. Carol Chapman, Victor Fisher Galleries, stated she represented a large group of artists including Raymond Persinger. She showed a small wax model of a sculpture of a vintner carrying grapes in a basket. She indicated the panels ' of the story board would be etched in bronze, stone, or aluminum. Commissioner Arner questioned if the story board panels at each end of the Vintner's Walk would be of the same material. Ms. Chapman responded affirmatively. Commissioner Arner asked why three panels were planned for the Masi family story board while only one was planned for the LaFourcade family. Ms. Chapman stated there seemed to be more history about the Masi family. Commissioner Cooper felt there should be three panels on the LaFourcade section as well as in the Masi section. Commissioner Arner concurred. Ms. Hartig felt that staff could work with the applicant to provide enough material for three panels in the LaFourcade section. She noted that four LaFourcade daughters are still alive and could be interviewed for the required oral history program for the project. Ms. Chapman noted that both panel areas will be 4 feet x 8 feet in size. She said they could easily divide up both sides. HPC MINUTES -2- July 2, 1992 Commissioner Tessier asked if the names to be inscribed in the walkway pavers were known. Mr. Scandiffio replied they did not know the names as yet. Commissioner Cooper noted that in 1933 at the end of prohibition there were 98 vintners in the area. Mr. Desselle indicated they had planned to show the names with their corresponding labels, but it would be difficult to include labels if the Commission choose to include all 98 names. Ms. Hartig suggested that the Commission could decide to limit the names to the eastern portion of the Cucamonga wine-making region. Mr. Desselle suggested the names could be listed on the six historical panels along the Vintner's Walk if the Commission would like. Ms. Chapman showed some slides of Raymond Persinger's work. Commissioner Arner asked the proposed size of the statue. Ms. Chapman indicated it would be about 5 feet 4 inches tall, which would have been the average height at that time. ' There were no further public comments. MOTION: Moved by Cooper, seconded by Arner, to recommend approval of the interpretive public displays, Vintner's Walk, and commissioned public art programs with small details deferred to staff and a report returned to the Historic Preservation Commission on the larger, outstanding design and interpretative issues. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, COOPER, HASKVITZ, TESSIER NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BANKS, BILLINGS, SCHMIDT -carried Ms. Hartig asked if staff should return with a report to the Commission on whether all of the family names or only a handful would be included in Vintner's Walk. It was the consensus of the Commission that such a report would be appropriate. UPDATE AND SLIDE SHOW ON THE 1992 CALIFORNIA PRESERVATION CONFERENCE IN EUREKA, CA HPC MINUTES -3- July 2, 1992 Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, suggested that the matter be continued to the August 6, 1992, meeting. It was the consensus of the Commission the matter should be continued. ANNOUNCEMENTS Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, reiterated that four LaFourcade children are still living and could be available to participate in the oral history program for the Masi project. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, questioned which Commissioners would like to attend the National Preservation Foundation Conference in Miami Beach in October. He said there was enough money budgeted to send at least one person, and there should be enough money to send two people if money were transferred from the state conference which will be held in Long Beach. He said there was no money budgeted for staff to attend the National Preservation Conference unless the Commission wanted to use Commission money to send a staff person. Commissioner Cooper suggested a staff member should attend. Commissioner Arner indicated she would love to go, but felt staff should go instead. Commissioner Tessier indicated she would prefer to go next year. ' Acting Chairman Haskvitz felt Commission funds should be used to send a staff person. + + + + + PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no further public comments. + + + + + ADJOURNMENT The Commission adjourned at 7:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ��-4� Gail Sanchez Secretary HPC MINUTES -4- July 2, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting June 4, 1992 Chairman Steve Preston called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7: 00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Preston then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Steven Preston, Bob Schmidt COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary OLD BUSINESS A. ORAL HISTORY LIST UPDATE Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the oral report. She asked the Commissioners to each make additions to the list of candidates for oral history interviews and return them to her by July 15. She also asked the Commissioners to describe each candidate's area of expertise. The Commission concurred that they would discuss the updated list at the August meeting. B. FOOTHILL MARKETPLACE INTEGRAL PUBLIC ART REVIEW Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Murphy presented proposals by Rebecca Guzak and Susana Sheid. He stated that each artist presented four proposals. He informed the Commission of the applicant's recommendations for the site which included mural no. 4 (Guzak) and mural no. 1 (Sheid) . The applicant also suggested a medallion/narrative concept for six locations on the eastern portion of the site. Chairman Preston asked the applicant to come forward and answer a few questions regarding absence of artwork on the western portion of the building. HPC MINUTES -1- June 4, 1992 Phil Ramming, the Wattson Company, 3620 Birch Street, Newport Beach, CA, stated his company was not opposed to artwork in the western portion. He stated they had proposed the artwork in the eastern portion of the site because they understood the Commission wanted the artwork located where the original historic buildings had been. Mr. Ramming showed the Commission examples of of Ms. Quinn's proposal to weld grapes with leaves to form "grape arbors", grapes leaves pressed into concrete, and a bas-relief within a reflection pond. After some discussion, Chairman Preston summed up eight issues that needed to be addressed by the Commission and the following summary is the result of the discussion: 1) The Commission expressed their desire to see the historically based artwork extended to the western portion of the site. They also decided that Ms. Guzak's artwork should be located in the eastern portion of the site and Ms. Sheid's artwork in the western portion and that references to the Big Bear Winery and the Campanella family should be included. 2) The Commission selected murals 2 and 3 from Ms. Guzak's artwork and murals 1 and 2 from Ms. Sheid' s artwork. 3) The Commission reached a consensus that they liked the grape arbor concept that included the ball-bearing grapes welded to the copper leaves. 4) The Commission agreed that staff should work with the applicant on the ' design of the medallions and the respective narrative. 5) The Commission reached a consensus that they approved of the entire plaza concept which includes the arbor and the reflecting pond with the monolithic bas-relief. 6) The Commission decided the Sheid murals should be tiled. 7) The Commission directed staff to work with the applicant on the landscape plans for the indigenous plantings on the site. 8) The Commission directed staff to develop a long-term maintenance agreement for the artwork and specifically, the reflecting pond. MOVED by Cooper, seconded by Banks, that the applicant and staff accept the direction of the Commission with respect to the eight items listed above for the Foothill Marketplace Integral Public Art Review. The motion carried unanimously with the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, PRESTON, SCHMIDT NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS -carried HPC MINUTES -2- June 4, 1992 DIRECTOR'S REPORTS C. AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION'S NATIONAL CONFERENCE 1992, WASHINGTON, D.C. - Observations Chairman Preston presented a slide show and a brief summary of the 1992 National Planning Conference in Washington, D.C. D. CALIFORNIA PRESERVATION CONFERENCE 1992, EUREKA - Slide show The slide show was continued until the July meeting. COMMISSION BUSINESS E. GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP (Continued from April 2, 1992) - Oral Report Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, went over any changes made to the budget ' since the Commission's last meeting. He commented the City had to lay off 15 people in the last week to balance the City's budget (4 employees were from the Planning Department) . He stated that there was no money for consultant services, no capital funds except for CDBG, and the State is looking at cutting more funds from the cities to balance their budget. Chairman Preston asked if the Commission could make some temporary adjustments during these tight-budget/personnel times to help alleviate some of the burden for staff (i.e. , meeting 10 times per year rather than 12) . Mr. Henderson stated the suggestion to cut back on meetings would be helpful and made some additional suggestions to the Commission which included changing the hour and day the Commission meets. He also commented that less requests for special project research from the Commission would also be very helpful. The Commission unanimously agreed to consider changes in day or time that may be necessary to facilitate a more efficient operation of staffing. The Commission concurred that an earlier meeting time would be acceptable for consent calendar or non-controversial items if public hearing items were still held at 7:00 PM so the public could attend. The Commission stated a 4:00 PM start time on a Monday or Tuesday would be acceptable and directed staff to coordinate the schedule according to other Commission/Council meetings held in the Council Chamber. The Commission also concurred that meeting 10 times per year rather than 12 would be a temporary economic concession the Commission was willing to make with the understanding that, when the City's budget improved, they would return to the 12 meetings per year. They concurred that HPC MINUTES -3- June 4, 1992 eliminating a summer meeting and a meeting in December or January was acceptable, again leaving staff to work out the details. Finally, the Commission agreed to make fewer special requests of staff's time. After deliberating and prioritizing items from previous meetings, the Commission concurred that the following items reflect their priority goals for 1992-93. Each item is ranked in the order of its priority within each category: TOP PRIORITY 1 . Complete Oral Histories 2. Old Alta Loma Neighborhood Plan 3. Education and Public Relations MEDIUM PRIORITY 1. Etiwanda Specific Plan 2. Archives 3. Alta Loma Packing House LOW PRIORITY 1. North Town Survey ANNOUNCEMENTS The Commission presented Chairman Preston with a Resolution of Commendation on his resignation from the Commission recognizing and honoring his accomplishments as Chairman/Commissioner for the past three years. The Commission concurred that Commissioner Haskvitz should Chair the next meeting as the Vice Chair will be unable to attend. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 10: 25 PM to a tour of the Demens-Tolstoy House, 9686 Hillside Road, on June 19, 1992 at 4:00 PM. Respectfully submitted, Q. Shelley A. Pet li Secretary HPC MINUTES -4- June 4, 1992 CITT OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting May 7, 1992 Vice Chair Marsha Banks called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:05 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Vice Chair Banks then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Ada Cooper, Alan Haskvitz, Bob Schmidt COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Gene Billings, Steven Preston STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Schmidt, seconded by Haskvitz, unanimously carried to approve the April 2, 1992 minutes. w OLD BUSINESS A. LANDMARK ALTERATION PERMIT 90-05 (THE CROSWELL HOUSE) - LPC CORPORATION - The review of proposed exterior modifications and rehabilitation of the Croswell House, located at 9874 Arrow Route - APN: 2-8-311-03,04, 21, and 24. Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, gave the staff report. Vice Chair Banks stated that Chairman Preston had submitted a memo with his comments regarding the project. Vice .Chair Banks summarized that Chairman Preston's main concern was the proposed hedge in the backyard; he felt there should be a low wall behind the fence or the hedge should grow over a wire fence structure for safety purposes. Vice Chair Banks stated she did not have a problem herself with the hedge as proposed. She commended the applicant for 1 his efforts on the project. HPC MINUTES -1- May 7, 1992 Commissioner Arner remarked that if there is to be some type of fencing, it ' should be tall enough to actually keep children and pets away from the driveway area. Mr. Murphy commented that children would be playing more in the common area, but that staff would look into the driveway fencing issue. Commissioner Haskvitz asked what exterior lighting provisions had been requested by the Commission previously. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, replied that security lighting has been provided throughout project. Commissioner Arner stated she was pleased with the developer's efforts on the project. MOTION: Moved by Haskvitz, seconded by Arner, to adopt the resolution of approval for the Croswell House (LAP90-05R) . Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BILLINGS, PRESTON -carried ' B. CONTINUATION OF GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP - Continued to June 4, 1992. Item to be discussed at the June 4, 1992 meeting. C. UPDATE ON THE HISTORICAL CULTURAL RESOURCES ALONG ROUTE 30 - Oral Report Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, stated the City Council and Planning Commission sub-committee met with CALTRANS and SANBAG regarding Route 30. He said there was -some discussion on historical/cultural resources. He touched on some of the discussion that took place: 1 ) SANBAG has selected 30th Street Architects to do their detailed feasibility study on moving structures on or off the Maloof property; 2) the Mueller House on East Avenue was discussed briefly in that CALTRANS may have to encroach further into the existing orchard to accommodate the freeway elevation at the I-15 interchange; further research will be required. Vice Chair Banks inquired about the possibility of eliminating the off-ramp at East Avenue. HPC MINUTES -2- May 7, 1992 i Mr. Henderson stated that there will be no entrance or exit ramps at East ' Avenue and the freeway will only cross East Avenue. Vice Chair Banks stated her concern about raising the Route 30 Freeway in an area that already incurs noise problems from the raised I-15 Freeway. She felt it was an undue burden for a community to have to endure the noise from two raised freeways. ` f' Mr. Henderson stated that undergrounding throughout the City is still under consideration. �4 Vice Chair Banks asked if there was a time frame as to when the freeway would be constructed. r, Mr. Henderson replied nothing definite regarding the time frame, but he !; estimated between five to ten years. ) F 1 D. UPDATE ON THE ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM, PHASE I (This item was actually discussed after Item E, but is reflected here for consistency. ) Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, updated the Commission about the project and ' asked for the Commission's assistance regarding specific people to interview. Mr. Henderson asked the Commission to go over the list and return to the next meeting with additions. ! Ms. Hartig stated that she planned to combine the two lists of potential interviewees and send them out the Commissioners in a memo prior to the next meeting. Vice Chair Banks asked if funding is currently available for oral interviews. Ms. Hartig stated the winemaking families from Etiwanda will mainly be covered by funding from developers, but there are no additional City funds available. Commissioner Arner asked what the cost of each interview is. Ms. Hartig responded that each interview is being done for $1 ,200. Vice Chair Banks suggested the Commission write down names, addresses, etc. and give them to Ms. Hartig after viewing the list she sends to each Commissioner. HPC MINUTES -3- May 7, 1992 E. INITIAL REPORT ON INTEGRAL PUBLIC ART CONDITION FOR FOOTHILL MARKETPLACE ' Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. He briefly went over the examples staff felt were appropriate: 1) smaller murals should utilized in areas with congregations of shops, primarily the east and west 4 areas of the site 2) a plaque with narrative on Foothill in the approximate location of the DiCarlo House and the Guidera Winery explaining the history of the area; 3) need a maintenance program for the project. He recommended pursuing a mixed media approach that utilizes the murals and/or plaques and narratives. He stated he would take the Commission's suggestions back to the developer and return to the Commission with a more definitive plan. Phil Ramming, Wattson Company, 3620 Birch Street, Newport Beach, stated that his company is presenting various options to the Commission so they can let him know what they prefer. He explained the three options his company felt were the most viable: 1) name the circulation streets around the site with the names of historic families from the area; 2) place narrative plaques on buildings that are located on sites that formerly contained historic structures (winery, barn, etc. ); 3) split up the murals and intersperse them throughout the site. He said that ceramic tile seemed a good option as it is pretty much weatherproof and vandalproof. He stated that the artists had been asked to create murals that would wrap around corners. He showed the Commission colored renderings and explained the mediums that could be used for the artwork. - He showed the Commission which stores were planned for the , center and where they would be located. Commissioner Arner stated that the medallions should be placed higher so they can be read more easily. M Vice Chair Banks commented that the medallions should not be placed by store display windows because they would not be within the viewer's focus of attention. yl Commissioner Cooper recalled, during grape harvesting, there used to be horse- drawn carts pulled along to throw the excess foliage into and the debris was burned in the cart there in the field. She stated this was an important part of the grape harvesting process and thought this could be depicted nicely in some form of artwork. Ms. Hartig commented that idea could possibly be worked into a pictorial chronology of the winemaking process somewhere in the center. Vice Chair Banks expressed her appreciation for the ideas the applicant had developed without much direction from the Commission. She stated that she felt the artwork should be designed to educate people and for that reason she felt that abstract artwork was not appropriate. She commented that the story that should be told is that of the winemaking families of Etiwanda. She stated she favored the idea of murals, but thought there should be several smaller murals rather than one or two large ones. She thought that perhaps an HPC MINUTES -4- May 7, 1992 individual segment of one of the present proposals could be enlarged and used in a 4x6 foot mural. She stated she would like to see many plaques with written history rather than several medallions. Finally, she expressed she wanted staff to try and work with Walmart and Price Club to tie the art program into the entire center. Commissioner Haskvitz commented he would like to see all age groups represented as well as the multi-cultural nature of the area. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, read into the record Chairman Preston's written comments regarding the project: 1) Medallions: first medallion seems appropriate, but needs to tied into the area's history; 2) seems to add no historical value to the center; 3) would like to see a master site plan developed to show the interconnection of the artwork moving sequentially from one piece to the next; 4) value of street monuments is questionable; Murals: 1 ) suggest emphasis should be representational rather than abstract; 2) maintenance of artwork needs to be addressed; Sculpture: 1) felt the sculpture did not work to educate people about the area's history. Mr. Ramming stated he would like to narrow the choices down to three and gave his recommendation as to which artists: 1) Rebecca Guzak; 2) Susana Sheid; and 3) Linda Quinn. The Commission concurred with the developer's choices and asked him to return next month with the revised proposals. F. VIDEO PRESENTATION OF ALTA LOMA HONOR ROLL DEDICATION The video presentation was given. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Commission adjourned at 9:35 p.m. to a joint Planning Commission/Historic Preservation Commission meeting on June 4, 1992 at 4:00 p.m. in the Tri- Communities Room. Respectfully submitted, Shelley A. Petrel i Secretary HPC MINUTES -5- May 7, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting April 2, 1992 Chairman Steve Preston called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Preston then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Marsha Banks, Ada Cooper, Gene Billings, Alan Haskvitz, Steven Preston, Bob Schmidt COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: Melicent Arner STAFF PRESENT: Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Banks, seconded by Billings, carried 6-0-1 (Arner absent) to approve the March 5, 1992 minutes. OLD BUSINESS FOOTHILL MARKET PLACE UPDATE - Oral report Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, updated the Commission on the project. He commented that the project would be going to Planning Commission next Wednesday, as requested by the applicant, for a modification to defer some of the HPC mitigations to the second phasing of the project. He went over the conditions and the current status of each: 1 ) Oral History Program - A maximum of six oral history interviews required; applicant will post a deposit with the City prior to the issuance of permits so the funds are available to conduct the interviews. 2) HABS/HAER Documentation - Received by staff and reviewed; acceptable with a few minor changes. HPC MINUTES -1- April 2, 1992 3) Relocation of DiCarlo and Guidera Homes - Contract has been signed with Allied Heavy Movers to move the houses; grading cannot occur until the houses are relocated. There have been a couple offers of land to relocate the houses upon. 4) Integral public art - Preliminary sketches are currently inadequate to review with the Commission. 5) Use of historic names associated with the wine industry - No plans have been submitted. 6) No demolition until grading plans approved - Grading plans should be back shortly; anticipate activity could begin in one to two weeks. 7) Contribution of $100,000 toward reconstruction of the Chaffey-Garcia Barn restoration - Must be in place prior to any demolition or grading on the site. Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, added that the DiCarlo and Guidera homes may be relocated within the month. She stated the contractors will restore the homes and sell them to the Redevelopment Agency for use by low-moderate income families. Chairman Preston asked if a qualified mover had been contracted to do the work. Ms. Hartig responded that the same movers that moved the Ledig House have been ' contracted to do the work. Commissioner Banks asked if the grading could proceed without moving the houses. Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, remarked that rough grading could be done around the houses. Mr. Murphy pointed out that the biggest constraint the applicant has to deal with is the Price Club building; they have demanded that a certified building pad be available for them by the end of April. He further stated that it is conceivable that grading can be done in the southern portion of the project without impacting the houses. He commented that he and Ms. Hartig were both concerned that damage might be done to the houses if they don't get them out of there first. Commissioner Banks asked Mr. Murphy if he felt there would be additional requests from the applicant in the second phase of the project. Mr. Murphy replied the current HPC condition required the developer to complete the Oral History Program prior to pulling any permits. He stated that what is being discussed now is requiring the developer to post the money to cover the entire cost prior to issuance of any permits. He stated the ' HPC MINUTES -2- April 2, 1992 houses will need to be relocated before they can begin grading. He commented ' that the developer has also requested the Integral Public Art condition be deferred to the second phase of the project. Commissioner Banks stated the Commission understood that Price Club and Wal- Mart would not be placing the public art on their buildings and that it would be placed elsewhere in the center. Mr. Murphy replied that Price Club was not willing to place the artwork on their building. He was not sure about Wal-Mart, but his feeling was they would object also. Chairman Preston invited Larry McNiel to speak regarding the project. Larry McNiel, Planning Commission Chairman, explained that Price Club has been very rigid regarding alterations to their building and other design issues. He commented that they were considering building elsewhere if the City did not redefine some of their requirements. He stated the last phasing plan that came to Planning Commission was unacceptable and that staff is preparing a list of requirements that the developer must meet. Chairman Preston said, it appears if the developer completes the first phase of the plan, it could be years before the remainder of the project is developed. 1 Mr. McNiel replied that was incorrect. He stated that the developer would not see a substantial profit until the entire project was complete. Chairman Preston asked if Mr. McNiel felt comfortable that the City's interests were protected. Mr. McNiel responded that he did feel they were protected. He remarked that he felt the community needs this project and that the City is achieving their major goals within the center without compromising their position. ' Commissioner Banks expressed her concerns that most of the integrated art would be in the second phase of the project rather than both phases. She wanted to ensure that some of the art would be overlapped and tied in with the first phase. Mr. McNiel felt that was possible. Commissioner Banks stated she would want staff to stipulate that, even if the developer gets building permits first, he is still liable for certain conditions and revisions to the site plan. Mr. Murphy stated that Price Club and Wal-Mart would be purchasing their sites from the Wattson Company and they did not want to be responsible for maintenance of public art items on their grounds. HPC MINUTES -3- April 2 1992 Commissioner Banks asked how staff would get them to integrate the historic art work into the site. Mr. Murphy responded it would be difficult. Ms. Hartig did think it is still possible to tie the site together with the historic art work. Chairman Preston asked Mr. Murphy if there was a particular type of input he was looking for from the Commission. Mr. Murphy stated he had received the input he needed and that staff intends to pursue getting something in writing from Price Club and Wal-Mart to tie the project together. He stated that staff is waiting for a time-line on compliance with the integral public art from the developer. Ms. Hartig stated that staff sent the Wattson Company a letter stating that no new submittals will be accepted as complete until the plans for the integral public art have been reviewed and approved by the HPC. Chairman Preston asked what standards have been set to relocate the historic houses on the property. Ms. Hartig responded that the Secretary of the Interior Guidelines will be followed; some improvements will be made, but those improvements will enhance the historic integrity of the structures. ' LONE CYPRESS TREE UPDATE - Oral report Ms. Hartig informed the Commission that she is still waiting for a call back from the nursery regarding the seedlings. + x + x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. + x x x x NEW BUSINESS No new business was introduced. + x + x + HPC MINUTES -4- April 2, 1992 DIRECTOR'S REPORTS There were no Director's Reports. + + w COMMISSION BUSINESS Chairman Preston requested the addition of the Alta Loma Honor Roll to Commission Business at this time so the Commission could receive an update. Ms. Hartig stated that contact had been made with Honor Roll families, veterans groups, the Etiwanda band, and the Rancho Cucamonga Fire Fighters Association completing arrangements for the ceremony at 11 :00 AM on Saturday, April 4. Chairman Preston called for a five minute recess at 7:50 PM to relocate the meeting to the DeAnza room and continue the agenda. • • r t r ANNOUNCEMENTS Ms. Hartig stated that the Thomas Winery and Still Building renovation would be receiving a design excellence award at the June 1 , 1992, Design Award ' ceremony. Ms. Hartig commented that Nabisco Foods (Regina/Ellena Winery) will be closing down on May 29. She stated she was trying the arrange for a tour before it closed. Chairman Preston asked for an update on the status of the Tree Preservation subcommittee by Otto Kroutil, Deputy City Planner. Commissioner Banks asked for an update on the reconfiguration of Route 30. • • x x w The Commission reconvened at 7:55 PM in the DeAnza room. (The following item is part of Old Business and was moved to the end of the agenda by the Chairman prior to relocating to the DeAnza room for discussion. The public was invited to attend. ) CONTINUATION OF GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP - Oral report Chairman Preston led a discussion on the goals and mission of the Commission; this included discussion on the Commission's strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats that could affect future goals. HPC MINUTES -5- April 2, 1992 The Commission concurred they would continue this discussion at their next meeting and each Commissioner would return his or her top five priority items. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 9: 10 PM. Respectfully submitted, a . Shelley A. Petre li Secretary 1 HPC MINUTES -6- April 2, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA ' HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting March 5, 1992 Chairman Bob Schmidt called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Schmidt then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Ada Cooper, Gene Billings, Alan Haskvitz, Steven Preston, Bob Schmidt COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: NONE STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; ' Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Barbara Krall, Assistant Engineer; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary x x x x x APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Banks, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1 (Billings arrived at 7:09 PM), to approve the February 6, 1992 minutes. PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION TO CATHY MORRIS FOR HER VOLUNTEER EFFORTS IN CREATING A HISTORIC BICYCLE TOUR FOR BOY SCOUT TROOP 655 Chairman Schmidt read the proclamation and the Commission commended Ms. Morris for her historic preservation efforts. x x x x x NEW BUSINESS Chairman Schmidt opened nominations for Historic Preservation Commission Chairman. HPC MINUTES -1- March 5, 1992 Commissioner Banks nominated Commissioner Preston. Chairman Schmidt asked for additional nominations, closed the nominations, and ' called for the vote. MOTION to elect Commission Preston Chairman of the Historic Preservation Commission carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: PRESTON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Chairman Schmidt opened nominations for Vice-Chairman. Commissioner Preston nominated Commissioner Banks for Vice-Chairman. Chairman Schmidt closed the nominations. MOTION to elect Commissioner Banks as Vice Chairman carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, PRESTON, ' SCHMIDT NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried DIRECTOR'S REPORTS Chairman Schmidt announced that Brad Buller, City Planner, would be giving the Commission an update on the Foothill Marketplace project. Foothill Marketplace Update Brad Buller, City Planner, informed the Commission that development of the project was progressing at different rates, with the Wal-Mart and Price Club buildings leading the way. He stated that the plans for the buildings had been to Planning Commission for Design Review and all the conditions are still in tact. He commented the phasing portion of the project would be going before Planning Commission at their next meeting. He proceeded to explain that the phasing request would allow these buildings to proceed with issuance HPC MINUTES -2- March 5, 1992 of building permits while still addressing the required architecturally- integrated historic elements. He commented one idea being considered is that the architectural elements be placed in the heavily-traveled pedestrian areas of the project with the possibility of placing items inside of the Wal-Mart entryway. He also stated the applicant will be coming to HPC in April with his plans for compliance with the HPC conditions. Commissioner Preston asked when the fees were to be paid by the developer. Mr. Buller replied the fees had to be paid prior to issuance of the permits. Commissioner Preston asked if it is strictly a question of timing or also a question of where the public historical elements are to be placed. Mr. Buller responded that the developer will not be placing any historical elements on the outside walls of the Wal-Mart and Price Club buildings. Commissioner Banks requested the developer be required to submit a phasing plan for implementing the Historic Preservation Commission conditions. She asked if the HPC would see the entire project. Mr. Buller replied that the whole project would be presented to the Commission and invited members of the Commission to come to the Design Review process. Commissioner Preston asked if the Commission could get a commitment from the ' developer in the form of an agreement or a contract scheduling the implementation the historic preservation elements. Mr. Buller stated the Planning Commission would have to amend the Conditional Use Permit to allow the phasing desired and commitments and scheduling could be agreed to at that time. Commissioner Banks asserted that the HPC should be involved in the Design Review process to ensure the implementation of their conditions. Commissioner Preston felt this would be a excellent opportunity for both Commissions to work together toward their common goals. Mr. Buller assured the Commission when the project goes for Design Review it will not be scheduled during the HPC meeting. Commissioner Preston asked for a consensus from the Commission to request a written schedule from the developer regarding the production of the historic art elements. The Commission consensus was to make a request for a written agreement regarding the issue of scheduling historic art elements. HPC MINUTES -3- March 5, 1992 Commissioner Haskvitz mentioned he spoke with the general manager of the Heritage Hotel and he is open to the idea of placing some historical elements at the hotel. Mr. Buller stated staff would follow up on that prospect. • • :r x w B. REVIEW OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 92-08 - THE HENRY ALBERT HOUSE - A local landmark, located at 10323 19th Street. Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, explained the Planning Commission conditions for the exterior of the Albert House: 1) Modify the existing block wall by replacing the block wall (except for the retaining portion of the wall) with wrought iron fencing; 2) Construct a two-car garage within the next five years; 3) Construct a two-car parking/drive out area to accommodate the increase in vehicular movement on the property. Commissioner Banks asked how the block wall was built originally without sensitivity to the historic site. Mr. Hayes stated he thought it was built as part of the project to widen 19th Street. Commissioner Banks stated she still had concerns regarding the portion of the ' block wall that would remain. She expressed that she would like to see the retaining wall painted or landscaped to block the view of the wall because it is not historically consistent. She also inquired about the placement of the two-car garage'. Mr. Hayes stated that the east side of the property now contains a concrete pad large enough to place the garage and it is anticipated that the garage will go there when it is constructed. Commissioner Banks asked if future access to the garage from Hamilton Street was a possibility. Mr. Hayes replied that it had not been considered previously. Commissioner Preston was concerned about the aesthetics of expanding the concrete area and/or striping the driveway. He expressed his preference would be to have specific design conditions drawn up to ensure the area gets the most sensitive treatment possible. Mr. Hayes stated that could be done. Ms. Hartig commented that this should not be viewed as a parking lot but rather a widening of the circular driveway. HPC MINUTES -4- March 5, 1992 . Commissioner Preston inquired if the widening would make the driveway ' approximately 25 feet wide. Mr. Hayes stated that was an accurate estimation. Commissioner Preston reiterated his previous statement that he still wishes to have the most sensitive treatment possible for the expansion of the driveway. Commissioner Preston then asked what size sign would be permitted on the property for this type of business. Mr. Hayes replied a ground-mounted, monument sign of approximately 24 square feet (similar to the Christmas House on Archibald) would be allowed. Commissioner Preston clarified that would be approximately a 4-foot by 5-foot sign. Mr. Hayes said that was correct. Commissioner Preston asked about the type of sign illumination that would be allowed. Mr. Hayes stated that sign illumination could be done with indirect ground lighting. Commissioner Preston expressed the effect he would want to see would be similar to Graber Olive that still maintains a residential look together with a commercial use. Commissioner Preston asked if staff has concerns regarding the wrought iron fencing. Ms. Hartig expressed her concerns regarding the fencing were basically that it would look too obvious or be aesthetically inconsistent with the historic structure. Commissioner Banks felt black would be the best color for the fencing and that the fencing should not be ornate. The consensus of the Commission was for black fencing and minimal design. Chairman Schmidt asked if the applicant had anything he wanted to say regarding the project. Mr. Roy LaParry, 10323 19th Street, stated he prefers white wrought iron fencing. He commented that he preferred not to add adjacent parking and/or striping to the driveway for the same reasons the Commission expressed. He felt signs could be placed in the driveway directing where to park. He stated that he does not have a problem with putting in a sidewalk for the Hamilton Street frontage, but he would like to have that condition within the five-year time frame proposed for the construction of the garage. HPC .MINUTES -5- March 5, 1992 Ms. Hartig stated the engineering condition for the driveway widening was ' based on the fact that two cars need to be able to pass in the driveway, as well as the need to provide fire lanes for emergency fire equipment. Commissioner Preston asked Mr. Buller if he recalled a similar property in Claremont that had a parking area made of a soil cement combination. He then asked if something like this could be considered as it was a less expensive alternative. Mr. Buller commented that was one possibility; another would be to use turf- block. He stated there were several alternatives that staff would be working on. Commissioner Banks agreed with the applicant regarding the sidewalk issue and thought the sidewalk construction should be tied to the garage construction and placement within the next five years. Commissioner Preston asked to have staff repeat the Commission's concerns. Ms. Hartig reiterated the concerns: 1 ) Parking alternatives should be explored to meet engineering and fire requirements while protecting the aesthetics of the site; 2) ,Garage should be located as far back on the property as possible with the potential of future access from Hamilton Street; 3) Sign design should be sympathetic with the house in stature and palette; 4) Design of fencing should be simple and functional and an inobtrusive color; 5) Construction of the sidewalk along Hamilton should be ' deferred for five years. Chairman Schmidt asked the Commission for a consensus agreeing with the stated conditions. MOVED by Banks, seconded by Preston, carried 7-0-0, that Ms. Hartig's summary of conditions is a consensus of the Commission and the Commission directs staff to proceed accordingly. Motion carried by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, PRESTON, SCHMIDT NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried Commissioner Banks asked staff to report back to the Commission how and why the block wall was originally installed by the City without an alteration permit. Mr. Buller responded that this was a public works project that slipped through the process because of a staff error. HPC MINUTES -6- March 5, 1992 Commissioner Banks asked if public works had been informed of their mistake so it would not happen again. Mr. Buller responded they had been informed and hoped this would not happen again. x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS Chairman Schmidt invited the public to the DeAnza Room for the budget review process and asked for public comments. There were no public comments. The Commission recessed at 8:15 PM to move to the DeAnza Room. The Commission reconvened at 8:20 PM. BUDGET REVIEW FOR FISCAL YEARS 1992-94 - GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP - Relocate to the DeAnza Room) ' Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, went over the budget items listed in the staff report. He also mentioned that he thought the Commission should tour the existing grove/estate homes and possibly add them to the work program. Commissioner Preston asked about the potential of staffing increases in the coming year. Mr. Henderson stated that the City has had a hiring freeze in effect for approximately two years and it has not been mentioned when the freeze will end. He stated the Planning Department is currently down six positions and these positions probably will not be filled for another year or two. He commented that Current Planning staff will be taking on more responsibility for historic projects associated with Current Planning projects; Current Planners will do the research, write staff reports, etc. , with the assistance of Ms. Hartig. Commissioner Banks expressed that she was pleased to see the involvement of the Current Planning staff in HPC projects. Commissioner Preston asked why the archives budget had no money in it for the coming year. Ms. Hartig responded that supplies have been stock-piled for the archives from the previous year's budget and it is stocked adequately. HPC MINUTES -7- March 5, 1992 Commissioner Banks stated that she had a concern that the budget included no money for staff to attend the National Preservation Conference. Mr. Henderson replied that was correct; if the Commission wishes staff to attend the conference, they can request that and the money would come from the HPC budget. Commissioner Banks remarked that she felt strongly that staff gets more from the conference than the Commission. She also commented that she felt the excess funds from the Sesquicentennial pin and calendar sales should be used to fund the oral history program. Mr. Henderson commented that approximately 34 interviews had taken place at this time and staff is applying to the Cucamonga Foundation for additional funding. Commissioner Banks felt, in spite of those facts, more money is still needed for the program. Commissioner Preston reiterated the need for the Commission to set up clearly defined goals. He felt the Commission should sign off on the budget now and set up a workshop or meeting to identify top priority items. Commissioner Banks agreed. Mr. Henderson suggested setting up an emergency loan fund for historic , properties with the excess funds. He stated no such funding exists now and he felt it could be an idea the Commission considered. Commissioner Preston felt the oral history program was a better use of the $8,000 because the money would not go far in an emergency loan fund. He commented he would like to propose asking the Community Foundation for matching funding. Ms. Hartig mentioned that she could seek out qualified graduate students and ask Mellon and Associates to train and supervise the students to work on the oral history program. Mr. Henderson stated that the timing would be a crucial factor. Commissioner Preston suggested postponing the work program to the next meeting. He asked the Commissioners to individually outline all the programs they would like to see completed by the next meeting and then define their mission statement and prioritize their goals at that meeting. The Commission concurred with the idea and wanted to move to the DeAnza Room again for discussion of their goals at the next meeting. Commissioner Preston asked for easels in the DeAnza Room for the next meeting. HPC MINUTES -8- March 5, 1992 PLANNING FOR THE 1992 STATE PRESERVATION CONFERENCE IN EUREKA, CA ' The Commission concurred that Chairman Schmidt, Larry Henderson, and Anthea Hartiq attend the conference. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 9:25 PM Respectfully submitted, 01 . Shelley A. Petrelli Secretary HPC MINUTES -9- March 5, 1997 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting February 6, 1992 Chairman Bob Schmidt called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7: 10 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Schmidt then led the pledge of allegiance. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks, Gene Billings, Alan Haskvitz, Steven Preston, Bob Schmidt COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT:. Ada Cooper STAFF PRESENT: Larry Henderson, Principal Planner; Shelley Petrelli, Secretary r r + w ' APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Moved by Banks, seconded by Billings carried 6-0-1, to approve the December 5, 1991 minutes. COMMISSION BUSINESS A. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH OF OFFICE FOR COMMISSIONERS ARNER, BANKS, HASKVITZ, AND SCHMIDT - (Mayor Stout) Mayor Stout administered the Oath of Office for Commissioners Arner, Banks, Haskvitz, and Schmidt. He congratulated them on a job well done. ANNOUNCEMENTS B. WELCOME TO MEMBERS AND STAFF OF THE CITY OF LA VERNE'S "CITY BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE" Commissioner Preston explained that the City of La Verne was in the process of developing a Cultural Resource Commission by transforming the City Beautiful Committee into the Scenic and Cultural Resource Commission. He stated that the La Verne committee members had come to observe an active historical commission. He then introduced the members of the committee. HPC MINUTES -1- February 6, 1992 DIRECTOR'S REPORTS C. HPC PROJECT STATUS UPDATE Larry Henderson presented the staff report. Commissioner Haskvitz updated the Commission on the last meeting of the Heritage Park Walkway subcommittee. He stated he had met with the Parks and Recreation staff and the general consensus was to commemorate historical figures at Heritage Park and that other significant individuals should be honored at Central Park. He remarked that the Committee is exploring various suitable materials and their costs relative to the commemorative plaques. He felt that the Committee would be ready to start construction within about a year. Commissioner Banks asked about the status of the Lone Cypress seedlings. Mr. Henderson stated he would check on them and get back to the Commission. Commissioner Banks inquired about the availability of winery artifacts for use at the Foothill Marketplace project. She recalled this was a previous condition required by the Commission. Mr. Henderson commented that the plans are incomplete and the developer is in the process of selecting a consultant. He stated that they were not far ' enough along with plans to know what artifacts they may be able to use. He also mentioned that the developer realizes there are artifacts available and that the artifacts will be going to the County because they need to be moved from storage soon. He expressed that they may not want to use any of the artifacts because their project is a very modern style and they are required only to incorporate details of the site's history through commissioned public art and/or interpretive public displays. Commissioner Banks asked if there is a time line for the project and how other mitigations on the project are proceeding. Mr. Henderson replied there was no definite time line, but the developer is working on some of the mitigations measures; the HABS/HAER drawings are almost complete. Commissioner Preston requested a time line for the Alta Loma Packing House redevelopment project. Mr. Henderson briefly reviewed the redevelopment plans to convert the packing house into senior housing and mixed retail/office uses. He also stated that the redevelopment agency may take over the project once it is complete under their housing authority, but those plans are still in discussion. Commissioner Preston asked for the status and time line for the Ledig house. HPC MINUTES -2- February 5, 1992 Mr. Henderson stated staff was in the process of reviewing several concepts submitted. He noted that the request for bids would go to Council their first or second meeting in March, so it would probably be May or June when construction would begin and the end of the year when the project is completed. Commissioner Banks updated the Commission on the recent HPC Mitigation Measure Committee meeting. She commented they have established their goals and their foundations for when mitigations would be imposed. She stated that staff will be coming back to the next meeting with a draft resolution for imposing mitigations. Commissioner Banks also noted that she would like to see a massive plaquing program set as a budgetary item for the Cultural Resource Recovery Fund (CRRF) . Commissioner Preston mentioned that the Tree Preservation Subcommittee will be meeting again shortly. D. STATUS OF CHINA HOUSE - (Oral Report) Larry Henderson, Principal Planner gave the oral report. He stated that the China House was the last structure remaining that represents the Chinese worker's influence in our early, local history. He stated the house is currently owned by the Cucamonga County Water District (CCWD) and it is a local landmark. He gave a brief history of the uses of the house and the people that lived there until CCWD purchased property with the intention of ' using the property to expand their facility. He stated CCWD has now decided to expand elsewhere in the City and has offered the house to the City. He explained that the house needs seismic retrofitting and preliminary estimates are approximately $50,000. He commented that he had contacted the Redevelopment Agency regarding rehabilitating and converting the house into transitional housing for families in need of temporary housing. He disclosed that the Redevelopment Agency will be pursuing this possibility; if it is feasible, they will take on the project and fund the rehabilitation and conversion of the house. Commissioner Banks remarked she would want to make certain that staff kept a careful watch over the house to ensure the integrity of the house is maintained and that demolition would not occur without notifying the Commission. Commissioner Preston asked if demolition of the building is a possibility. Mr. Henderson replied that it is possible, but not likely. He commented that the seismic retrofitting did need to be done as soon as possible to prevent potential safety hazards. Commissioner Preston asked if the Building Official were to declare the building unsafe how long the Commission would have to appeal the decision. Mr. Henderson stated he would have to check with the City Attorney to answer that question. HPC MINUTES -3- February 6, 1992 Mr. Preston stated he would be interested to find out just for the Commission's information. Jim Kline, Cucamonga County Water District, 9611 San Bernardino Road, stated that CCWD's original plan was to give the City the China house and the property it is on and to sell the property to the south. He commented he had spoken to Olen Jones of the Redevelopment Agency (RDA) who had indicated that the City would be interested in purchasing the other piece of property, possibly for future affordable housing. Mr. Kline commented at the next'board meeting they are requesting the property be declared surplus, this involves notifying many different entities and giving them the right of first refusal. Chairman Schmidt asked if Alan Greensmare of the San Bernardino County Museum had been contacted. Mr. Kline responded he had contacted Mr. Greensmare and he indicated that they have no money available to purchase the property. He commented that Mr. Greensmare had given him a contact person at the Chinese History Society of Southern California, but he has been unable to reach him yet. Commissioner Banks wanted provisions added to the. RDA proposal to cover the cost archaeological digs. Mr. Kline remarked that Mr. Clucas, a local author, brought several school children to dig for artifacts last summer. He commented he had spoken to Mrs. ' Navarrette, the former owner of the property, who told him that the entire top three feet of the property had been unearthed by her family and several other people over the years. ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING E. COMMISSION GOAL SETTING F. WORK PROGRAM G. BUDGET PROCESS Mr. Henderson stated that these items would be on next month's agenda and asked the Commission to let him know of additional projects or ideas they have prior to that meeting. He also stated the emphasis would be on reducing rather than increasing budget items. Commissioner Preston stated he would like to see more open "brainstorming". He commented he would like to discuss all of the projects the Commission wants to accomplish, decide which projects are priorities, and set a long term schedule up for all the projects. Mr. Henderson asked if the Commission wished to meet in a smaller conference room for the workshop. HPC MINUTES 4 February 6, 1992 Commissioner Preston felt that was a good idea. ' Commissioner Banks asked if staff wished to get ideas for the recently- discovered surplus budget money. Mr. Henderson explained that the Community Services Department had recently informed HPC staff they were holding onto $8,000 (collected from the Sesquicentennial calendar and pin sales) that is earmarked for HPC projects. Commissioner Banks wished to add to the March agenda, a discussion of how the Design Review process works. She is concerned that a new house is being built by the Albert House on 19th Street. She stated the house is incompatible with the historical structure inasmuch as it blocks the view of the house and the set back is inconsistent. She wants to discuss how this could happen without the Commission being allowed to review it first for potential impacts. Commissioner Preston stated this may be something the Commission could consider when they are re-working the HPC ordinance. Mr. Henderson stated he would get back to the Commission with a memo on the Albert House and then place the item on the April agenda. Commissioner Preston asked if Council would receive the Commission's input on raising revenue as well as ways to cut the budget items. ' Mr. Henderson reminded the Commission that at their joint meeting with City Council, they asked staff to look at other revenue sources available. Staff has been working on that report and the draft would probably be helpful to the Commission as part of their workshop materials for the next meeting. Commissioner Preston asked if there was a way to ensure that the benefits of revenue-raising created by HPC would be retained for HPC purposes rather than going into the General Fund. Mr. Henderson stated that cuts may occur in unrelated areas anyway, so it was like comparing apples and oranges. Commissioner Preston asked if the Commission should present their ideas on how capital items should be broken out, such as, how much money they would want to see specified for landbanking revenue. Mr. Henderson stated that would be fine. Mr. Henderson mentioned that when the Alta Loma Citrus Packing House is ready for architectural review there will probably be one joint meeting with both Planning Commission and HPC. He felt it would be beneficial if the Commission would pick a subcommittee to attend all the Design Review meetings so the ' HPC's views would be represented. HPC MINUTES -5- February 6, 1992 The Commission felt this was a good idea. x x x x x Mr. Henderson asked the Commission if they would support a Resolution of Commendation for Cathy Morris for the Historic Bike Tour she created for the Boy Scouts. He commented the City would like to make the tour available for the public. The Commission was supportive. x x x x x PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. ADJOURNMENT The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 8:30 PM. Immediately following their meeting, the Commission took the La Verne City Beautiful Committee for a short tour of the Thomas Winery. Respectfully submitted Q Shelley A. Petrelli ' Secretary HPC MINUTES -6- February 6, 1992 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting January 2, 1992 The regularly scheduled Historic Preservation Commission meeting of January 2, 1992, was cancelled because of a scheduling conflict with City Council for the .Council Chambers. Respectfully Submitted, Shelley A. Petrelli Secretary