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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
THURSDAY APRIL 2 , 1992 7:00 p.m.
RANCHO CUCAMONGA CIVIC CENTER
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA
ACTION_ I. Pledge of Allegiance
7:00 :PM
II. Roll Call
Commissioner Arner A Commissioner Haskvitz X
Commissioner Banks X Commissioner Preston X
Commissioner Billings X Chairman Schmidt X
Commissioner Cooper X
APPROVED III. Approval of Minutes
6-0-1
IV. Old Business
Updates given. FOOTHILL MARKET PLACE UPDATE - Oral report by Scott Murphy and
Anthea Hartig
Waiting for response LONE CYPRESS TREE UPDATE - Oral Report by Anthea
from nursery.
Discussion to CONTINUATION OF GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP - Oral report by
continue at next Larry Henderson
months meeting.
V. New Business
VI. Director's Reports
April 4th VII. Commission Business
ceremony discussed Dedication of Honor Roll
VIII. Announcesents
I%. Public Cossents
This is the time and place for the general public to address the
Commission. Items to be discussed here are those which do not
already appear on this agenda.
9:10 PM X. Adjourniment
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
THURSDAY APRIL 2 , 1992 7:00 p.m.
RANCHO CUCAMONGA CIVIC CENTER
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA
I. Pledge of Allegiance
II. Roll Call
Commissioner Arner Commissioner Haskvitz
Commissioner Banks Commissioner Preston
Commissioner Billings Chairman Schmidt
Commissioner Cooper
III. Approval of Minutes
IV. Old Business
FOOTHILL MARKET PLACE UPDATE - Oral report by Scott Murphy and
Anthea Hartig
LONE CYPRESS TREE UPDATE. - Oral Report by Anthea
CONTINUATION OF GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP - Oral report by
Larry Henderson
V. New Business
VI. Director's Reports
VII. Commission Business
VIII. Announcements
IX. Public Comments
This is the time and place for the general public to address the
Commission. Items to be discussed here are those which do not
already appear on this agenda.
X. Adjournment
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
THURSDAY APRIL 2 , 1992 7:00 p.m.
RANCHO CUCAMONGA CIVIC CENTER � -
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA
`7 "D b 0 I. Pledge of Allegiance
II. Roll Call
Commissioner Arner Commissioner Haskvitz
Commissioner Banks Commissioner Preston
Commissioner Billings eha rman Schmidt
.A Commissioner Cooper
III. Approval of Minutes
IV. Old Business
FOOTHILL MARKET PLACE UPDATE - Oral report by Scott Murphy and
Anthea Hartig
LONE CYPRESS TREE UPDATE - Oral Report by Anthea
CONTINUATION OF GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP - Oral report by
Larry Henderson
V. New Business
VI. Director's Reports
VII. Commission Business
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VIII. Annonnceaents
IX. Public Comments
This is the time and place for the general public td address the
Commission. Items to be discussed here are those which do not
already appear on this agenda.
; , b P X. Adjournment
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
March 5, 1992
Chairman Bob Schmidt called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho
Cucamonga Historic Preservation Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting
was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic
Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Chairman Schmidt then led the
pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Melicent Arner, Marsha Banks,
Ada Cooper, Gene Billings,
Alan Haskvitz, Steven Preston,
Bob Schmidt
COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: NONE
STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner;
Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner;
Steve Hayes, Associate Planner;
Larry Henderson, Principal Planner;
Barbara Krall, Assistant Engineer;
Shelley Petrelli, Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Moved by Banks, seconded by Arner, carried 6-0-1 (Billings arrived at
7:09 PM) , to approve the February 6, 1992 minutes.
PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION TO CATHY MORRIS FOR HER VOLUNTEER EFFORTS IN
CREATING A HISTORIC BICYCLE TOUR FOR BOY SCOUT TROOP 655
Chairman Schmidt read the proclamation and the Commission commended Ms. Morris
for her historic preservation efforts.
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Schmidt opened nominations for Historic Preservation Commission
Chairman.
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Commissioner Banks nominated Commissioner Preston.
Chairman Schmidt asked for additional nominations, closed the nominations, and
called for the vote.
MOTION to elect Commission Preston Chairman of the Historic Preservation
Commission carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, SCHMIDT
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: PRESTON
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Chairman Schmidt opened nominations for Vice-Chairman.
Commissioner Preston nominated Commissioner Banks for Vice-Chairman.
Chairman Schmidt closed the nominations.
MOTION to elect Commissioner Banks as Vice Chairman carried by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, PRESTON,
SCHMIDT
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
Chairman Schmidt announced that Brad Buller, City Planner, would be giving the
Commission an update on the Foothill Marketplace project.
Foothill Marketplace Update
Brad Buller, City Planner, informed the Commission that development of the
project was progressing at different rates, with the Wal-Mart and Price Club
buildings leading the way. He stated that the plans for the buildings had
been to Planning Commission for Design Review and all the conditions are still
in tact. He commented the phasing portion of the project would be going
before Planning Commission at their next meeting. He proceeded to explain
that the phasing request would allow these buildings to proceed with issuance
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of building permits while still addressing the required architecturally-
integrated historic elements. He commented one idea being considered is that
the architectural elements be placed in the heavily-traveled pedestrian areas
of the project with the possibility of placing items inside of the Wal-Mart
entryway. He also stated the applicant will be coming to HPC in April with
his plans for compliance with the HPC conditions.
Commissioner Preston asked when the fees were to be paid by the developer.
Mr. Buller replied the fees had to be paid prior to issuance of the permits.
Commissioner Preston asked if it is strictly a question of timing or also a
question of where the public historical elements are to be placed.
Mr. Buller responded that the developer will not be placing any historical
elements on the outside walls of the Wal-Mart and Price Club buildings.
Commissioner Banks requested the developer be required to submit a phasing
plan for implementing the Historic Preservation Commission conditions. She
asked if the HPC would see the entire project.
Mr. Buller replied that the whole project would be presented to the Commission
and invited members of the Commission to come to the Design Review process.
Commissioner Preston asked if the Commission could get a commitment from the
developer in the form of an agreement or a contract scheduling the
implementation the historic preservation elements.
Mr. Buller stated the Planning Commission would have to amend the Conditional
Use Permit to allow the phasing desired and commitments and scheduling could
be agreed to at that time.
Commissioner Banks asserted that the HPC should be involved in the Design
Review process to ensure the implementation of their conditions.
Commissioner Preston felt this would be a excellent opportunity for both
Commissions to work together toward their common goals.
Mr. Buller assured the Commission when the project goes for Design Review it
will not be scheduled during the HPC meeting.
Commissioner Preston asked for a consensus from the Commission to request a
written schedule from the developer regarding the production of the historic
art elements.
The Commission consensus was to make a request for a written agreement
regarding the issue of scheduling historic art elements.
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Commissioner Haskvitz mentioned he spoke with the general manager of the
Heritage Hotel and he is open to the idea of placing some historical elements
at the hotel.
Mr. Buller stated staff would follow up on that prospect.
B. REVIEW OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 92-08 - THE HENRY ALBERT HOUSE - A local
landmark, located at 10323 19th Street.
Anthea Hartig, Associate Planner, presented the staff report.
Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, explained the Planning Commission conditions
for the exterior of the Albert House: 1) Modify the existing block wall by
replacing the block wall (except for the retaining portion of the wall) with
wrought iron fencing; 2) Construct a two-car garage within the next five
years; 3) Construct a two-car parking/drive out area to accommodate the
increase in vehicular movement on the property.
Commissioner Banks asked how the block wall was built originally without
sensitivity to the historic site.
Mr. Hayes stated he thought it was built as part of the project to widen 19th
Street.
Commissioner Banks stated she still had concerns regarding the portion of the
block wall that would remain. She expressed that she would like to see the
retaining wall painted or landscaped to block the view of the wall because it
is not historically consistent. She also inquired about the placement of the
two-car garage.
Mr. Hayes stated that the east side of the property now contains a concrete
pad large enough to place the garage and it is anticipated that the garage
will go there when it is constructed.
Commissioner Banks asked if future access to the garage from Hamilton Street
was a possibility.
Mr. Hayes replied that it had not been considered previously.
Commissioner Preston was concerned about the aesthetics of expanding the
concrete area and/or striping the driveway. He expressed his preference would
be to have specific design conditions drawn up to ensure the area gets the
most sensitive treatment possible.
Mr. Hayes stated that could be done.
Ms. Hartig commented that this should not be viewed as a parking lot but
rather a widening of the circular driveway.
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Commissioner Preston inquired if the widening would make the driveway
approximately 25 feet wide.
Mr. Hayes stated that was an accurate estimation.
Commissioner Preston reiterated his previous statement that he still wishes to
have the most sensitive treatment possible for the expansion of the
driveway. Commissioner Preston then asked what size sign would be permitted
on the property for this type of business.
Mr. Hayes replied a ground-mounted, monument sign of approximately 24 square
feet (similar to the Christmas House on Archibald) would be allowed.
Commissioner Preston clarified that would be approximately a 4-foot by 6-foot
sign.
Mr. Hayes said that was correct.
Commissioner Preston asked about the type of sign illumination that would be
allowed.
Mr. Hayes stated that sign illumination could be done with indirect ground
lighting.
Commissioner Preston expressed the effect he would want to see would be
similar to Graber olive that still maintains a residential look together with
a commercial use.
Commissioner Preston asked if staff has concerns regarding the wrought iron
fencing.
Ms. Hartig expressed her concerns regarding the fencing were basically that it
would look too obvious or be aesthetically inconsistent with the historic
structure.
Commissioner Banks felt black would be the best color for the fencing and that
the fencing should not be ornate.
The consensus of the Commission was for black fencing and minimal design.
Chairman Schmidt asked if the applicant had anything he wanted to say
regarding the project.
Mr. Roy LaParry, 10323 19th Street, stated he prefers white wrought iron
fencing. He commented that he preferred not to add adjacent parking and/or
striping to the driveway for the same reasons the Commission expressed. He
felt signs could be placed in the driveway directing where to park. He stated
that he does not have a problem with putting in a sidewalk for the Hamilton
Street frontage, but he would like to have that condition within the five-year
time frame proposed for the construction of the garage.
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Ms. Hartig stated the engineering condition for the driveway widening was
based on the fact that two cars need to be able to pass in the driveway, as
well as the need to provide fire lanes for emergency fire equipment.
Commissioner Preston asked Mr. Buller if he recalled a similar property in
Claremont that had a parking area made of a soil cement combination. He then
asked if something like this could be considered as it was a less expensive
alternative.
Mr. Buller commented that was one possibility; another would be to use turf-
block. He stated there were several alternatives that staff would be working
on.
Commissioner Banks agreed with the applicant regarding the sidewalk issue and
thought the sidewalk construction should be tied to the garage construction
and placement within the next five years.
Commissioner Preston asked to have staff repeat the Commission's concerns.
Ms. Hartig reiterated the concerns: 1) Parking alternatives should be
explored to meet engineering and fire requirements while protecting the
aesthetics of the site; 2) Garage should be located as far back on the
property as possible with the potential of future access from Hamilton
Street; 3) Sign design should be sympathetic with the house in stature and
palette; 4) Design of fencing should be simple and functional and an
inobtrusive color; 5) Construction of the sidewalk along Hamilton should be
deferred for five years.
Chairman Schmidt asked the Commission for a consensus agreeing with the stated
conditions.
MOVED by Banks, seconded by Preston, carried 7-0-0, that Ms. Hartig's summary
of conditions is a consensus of the Commission and the Commission directs
staff to proceed accordingly.
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: ARNER, BANKS, BILLINGS, COOPER, HASKVITZ, PRESTON,
SCHMIDT
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE -carried
Commissioner Banks asked staff to report back to the Commission how and why
the block wall was originally installed by the City without an alteration
permit.
Mr. Buller responded that this was a public works project that slipped through
the process because of a staff error.
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Commissioner Banks asked if public works had been informed of their mistake so
it would not happen again.
Mr. Buller responded they had been informed and hoped this would not happen
again.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chairman Schmidt invited the public to the DeAnza Room for the budget review
process and asked for public comments.
There were no public comments.
The Commission recessed at 8: 15 PM to move to the DeAnza Room.
The Commission reconvened at 8:20 PM.
BUDGET REVIEW FOR FISCAL YEARS 1992-94 - GOALS AND WORK PROGRAM WORKSHOP -
Relocate to the DeAnza Room)
Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, went over the budget items listed in the
staff report. He also mentioned that he thought the Commission should tour
the existing grove/estate homes and possibly add them to the work program.
Commissioner Preston asked about the potential of staffing increases in the
coming year.
Mr. Henderson stated that the City has had a hiring freeze in effect for
approximately two years and it has not been mentioned when the freeze will
end. He stated the Planning Department is currently down six positions and
these positions probably will not be filled for another year or two. He
commented that Current Planning staff will be taking on more responsibility
for historic projects associated with Current Planning projects; Current
Planners will do the research, write staff reports, etc. , with the assistance
of Ms. Hartig.
Commissioner Banks expressed that she was pleased to see the involvement of
the Current Planning staff in HPC projects.
Commissioner Preston asked why the archives budget had no money in it for the
coming year.
Ms. Hartig responded that supplies have been stock-piled for the archives From
the previous year's budget and it is stocked adequately.
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Commissioner Banks stated that she had a concern that the budget included no
money for staff to attend the National Preservation Conference.
Mr. Henderson replied that was correct; if the Commission wishes staff to
attend the conference, they can request that and the money would come from the
HPC budget.
Commissioner Banks remarked that she felt strongly that staff gets more from
the conference than the Commission. She also commented that she felt the
excess funds from the Sesquicentennial pin and calendar sales should be used
to fund the oral history program.
Mr. Henderson commented that approximately 34 interviews had taken place at
this time and staff is applying to the Cucamonga Foundation for additional
funding.
Commissioner Banks felt, in spite of those facts, more money is still needed
for the program.
Commissioner Preston reiterated the need for the Commission to set up clearly
defined goals. He felt the Commission should sign off on the budget now and
set up a workshop or meeting to identify top priority items.
Commissioner Banks agreed. •
Mr. Henderson suggested setting up an emergency loan fund for historic
properties with the excess funds. He stated 'no such funding exists now and he
felt it could be an idea the Commission considered.
Commissioner Preston felt the oral history program was a better use of the
$8,000 because the money would not go far in an emergency loan fund. He
commented he would like to propose asking the Community Foundation for
matching funding.
Ms. Hartig mentioned that she could seek out qualified graduate students and
ask Mellon and Associates to train and supervise the students to work on the
oral history program.
Mr. Henderson stated that the timing would be a crucial factor.
Commissioner Preston suggested postponing the work program to the next
meeting. He asked the Commissioners to individually outline all the programs
they would like to see completed by the next meeting and then define their
mission statement and prioritize their goals at that meeting.
The Commission concurred with the idea and wanted to move to the DeAnza Room
again for discussion of their goals at the next meeting.
Commissioner Preston asked for easels in the DeAnza Room for the next meeting.
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PLANNING FOR THE 1992 STATE PRESERVATION CONFERENCE IN EUREKA, CA
The Commission concurred that Chairman Schmidt, Larry Henderson, and Anthea
Hartig attend the conference.
ADJOURNMENT
The Historic Preservation Commission adjourned at 9:25 PM
Respectfully submitted,
Shelley A. Petrelli
Secretary
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