HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013/07/22 - Minutes - Special Joint (CC, P&R Commission) July 22, 2013
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
CITY COUNCIL
JOINT MEETING WITH THE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING
A. CALL TO ORDER
A special joint meeting of the Rancho Cucamonga City Council was held with the Park and Recreation
Commission on Monday, July 22, 2013, in Celebration Hall at the Cultural Center, 12505 Cultural Center
Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. Mayor L. Dennis Michael called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
Present were Council Members: Bill Alexander, Marc Steinorth, Diane Williams, Mayor Pro Tem Sam
Spagnolo and Mayor L. Dennis Michael.
Present were Park and Recreation Commission Members: Michele Jacks, Patricia Morris, Janet Ryerson,
Vice Chair Bill Pallotto and Chair Kelly Matheny.
Also present were: John Gillison, City Manager; Jeff Bloom, Deputy City Manager/Economic and
Community Development, Nettie Nielsen, Community Services Director; Dave Moore, Community
Services Superintendent; Francie Palmer, Community Services Marketing Manager; Susan Sluka-Kelly,
Cultural Arts Manager; Adrian Garcia, Assistant City Clerk and Melissa Morales, Senior Administrative
Secretary.
B. ITEM OF DISCUSSION
B1. Discussion of the Draft Community Recreation Needs Assessment Findings and Analysis was
opened by City Manager Gillison. He reminded the City Council of their action to identify as a
goal for the 2012/13 fiscal year conducting a community-wide needs assessment, which is to
precede development of an updated Park and Recreation Master Plan. He commended Director
Nielsen, the consulting firm GreenPlay, LLC, and those staff involved in the project for their hard
work over the past few months. The item was then deferred to Director Nielsen who continued
with staff's presentation by reviewing the project timeline and detailing the year-long process
involved in the coordinating the comprehensive needs assessment. She played a video
highlighting the Community Services Department and its many programs, events, activities and
services provided to the community. The accomplishments from the previous assessment were
noted including constructing the Victoria Gardens Cultural Center and Central Park Phase I. Prior
to calling on the consultant for his report, Director Nielsen provided staffs recommendation for
the evening, as contained in staffs report, which is for the City Council to accept the draft report,
findings and analysis of the Needs Assessment and send the matter to the Commission for
further review and refinement based on the discussions held and input received this evening.
She also applauded the efforts of Manager Palmer and the rest of the multi-department
Assessment Project Team for their hard work.
John Barnholt, Senior Project Consultant, GreenPlay, LLC, oriented the Council and Commission
regarding his company's background. He began is presentation by expressing his appreciation to
the Assessment Project Team and by reviewing the agenda for the evening which would be to
focus on the community demographics, inventory, public input process and suggested
goals/areas of focus to be followed by questions. Consultant Barnholt proceeded with the
PowerPoint presentation which it was noted would also be made available to the public on the
City's website. Demographic highlights included median age, income, educational levels of
cohorts, anticipated Hispanic population growth and household characteristics. Inventory
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availability comparisons from 2000 to 2012 were reported and various areas that were increased
since the last assessment were pointed out. Consultant Barnholt then went on to describe the
process undertaken to involve the public and focus group/stakeholders, the online engagement
tool used (Mind Mixer) and surveys sent out and received. The majority of the presentation was
spent providing snapshots of various statistics including households using the current programs
and facilities, their importance and if needs are being met; reasons why facilities are not being
used; importance of indoor and outdoor facilities to be added, expanded or improved and most
important facility/park options to be developed. During his overview of the Importance vs Needs
Met Matrix, Consultant Barnholt commended the City for not having any results showing that
highly important needs are not being met which is exceptional.
The final portion of the presentation was a summary of proposed key focus areas and goals with
which to consider moving forward with. The four main goals were to ensure continuation of the
high quality recreation facilities, programs and services residents have come to expect;
development of a policy to address partnerships agreements; creation and implementation of a
resource allocation and cost recovery philosophy and analyzing program offerings to ensure
current levels of satisfaction remain consistent.
Following Consultant Barnholt's presentation, Mayor Michael called on the Park and Recreation
Commission for their comments and input. Chair Matheny thanked the City Council for taking the
time to meet with them and called on her fellow Commissioners for comments. Vice Chair
Pallotto asked for clarification on whether lit ball fields had been included as a separate item in
the inventory analysis and Consultant Barnholt indicated they had not. Commissioner Ryerson
asked for clarification on whether the survey was indicative of whether the needs of the youth in
the community were being met, which should not be overlooked. Consultant Barnholt indicated
that, in many cases, if a need is being met and satisfied, it may not show up on the survey, as the
respondent most likely would not list it as a need.
Comments from the City Council were then called for by Mayor Michael. Council Member
Alexander gave his thoughts on the matter and suggested that more community input needs to be
gathered. He expressed concern about the money spent on the consultants and his belief that in
many cases, qualified staff can provide the same services. He stressed the need to take a
different look at how the City is doing things and the public's expectation to pay. He offered his
disappointment that staff and the Council are not more involved and the need to encourage
greater collaboration with the schools. He asked if the Sports Advisory Committee participated in
the process and why specifically the demographic on the proposed increase in Hispanics was
highlighted. Superintendent Moore responded that Sports Advisory Committee Members were
part of the stakeholder meetings and Consultant Barnholt commented that the Hispanic
information was just one of many statistics highlighted for no reason in particular.
Council Member Williams expressed her agreement with Council Member Alexander's comments
concerning use of a consultant rather than utilizing in-house talent. She questioned how the
proposed focus goals were established specifically taking issue with the goal to revisit the Central
Park Master Plan. She wondered whether the consultant had reviewed the current approved
Master Plan for Central Park and indicated she had an concerns with the wording to revisit the
matter which she thought implies that a good plan is not currently in place. She said the plan
calls for an aquatics facility and objected to making Central Park a soccer complex. Council
Member Williams emphasized that citizens feel deeply about Central Park and she is deeply
concerned. She closed her remarks by saying that just because the survey participants indicated
they would be willing to pay fees or taxes, history dictates that this is not the case. Mr. Barnholt
confirmed the understanding that this was a survey question and not a ballot measure, agreeing
with Council Member Williams that when placed on a ballot the voting results may resonate
differently. He also explained that staff were part of the process in determining the goals and that
he had taken a look at the Master Plan information concerning Central Park. He said the
intention of the goal was to look at the plan as it compares to the current needs identified by the
community, and make sure those still fit together.
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Mayor Pro Tern Spagnolo added his concurrence regarding the number of survey results that
were received. He questioned, as well, the participation by the Sports Advisory Committee and
Superintendent Moore confirmed attendance by Members at a stakeholders meeting that
included other community and advisory groups.
Mayor Michael inquired as to the confidence level for the prior assessment and how many
surveys were mailed out. Director Nielsen responded that she would research the inquiry and
provide an answer as quickly as possible. Mayor Michael continued by reminding the Council
that they had approved the contract with for the consultant and that with the shortage of staff,
contracting of services is sometimes a necessity. He addressed the matter of Central Park and
commented on the lack of funds available especially in light of the Redevelopment Agency's
dissolution. He supported development of Central Park westward from the current facility to
include picnic shelters and open space and to leave the current Master Plan on the shelf. Mayor
Michael concurred that the school fields need to be utilized to a higher degree and expressed his
confusion on why the City doesn't do so in light of the fact that tax payers have approved bond
measures. He asked to see, as part of the plan, where the City is going to suggest additional
sports fields and recommended that any master plan needs to be coupled with a complete
financial analysis. The Commissioners were then encouraged to make modifications to the report
based on input provided that evening.
Public Comment: Christine Pham, General Manager, Victoria Gardens, Cultural Center,
representing Forest City Enterprises, Inc., shared her thoughts on the successful partnership her
company has with the City including the Movies in Town Square series. She spoke of the
importance of focusing on community services and for the City to continue its excellent delivery of
services. She closed by expressing her commitment to continue to partner with the City.
Jerie Lee suggested that the Park and Recreation Commission occasionally conduct their
meetings at off-site locations out in the community to assist in their gaining greater knowledge of
the public's opinion and input. She added that she was not a recipient of one of the 5,000
surveys sent out. Ms. Lee also recounted the experience of her and her family at the Quakes
Stadium in regard to the restrooms and noted the clean condition she found them in recently.
Lastly, Ms. Lee referenced the new staff shirts now being worn by Community Services Staff and
the confusion by some who aren't recognizing that staff are now in green rather than red. She
ended with the suggestion that community organizations be considered to operate the snack bar
located on the exterior of the Quakes stadium as a means to raise funds.
Larry Henderson, Alta Loma Riding Club Representative and also a retired City Planner,
reminded that the survey is merely a snapshot in time. He stressed the need to analyze the cost
of maintaining the parks and facilities, the changing demographics and to examine all the facts
closely as a new Master Plan is drafted.
Martha Hughes, Member of the Senior Advisory Committee, commented how she attended the
meeting tonight in hopes of hearing good news concerning the completion of Central Park. She
spoke of issues in finding parking at Central Park in the evenings due to youth sports activities
taking place and the need to complete the park so that all could enjoy.
Jim Harrington, Chair, Rancho Cucamonga Community & Arts Foundation, spoke of the
importance of not losing sight of what the City currently has especially those amenities unique to
the City such as the Victoria Gardens Cultural Center.
Dennis Cisneros talked about living in the "canyon district" of the City which is located in the
northwest area and his hope that the residents will appreciate what is currently here and the
value of conducting a needs assessment. He commented on the use by both residents and non-
residents of the canyons as a source of aquatics recreation and the drain on police and other
resources due to issues related to the uncontrolled access.
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Vicky Jones, President of the Friends of the Pacific Electric Trail, expressed her concern with the
data shared that evening and questioned why only 5,000 surveys were mailed out. She did not
support taking action based on the small percentage of input received and recommended the
Commission get out in the community to obtain more public input. She noted that the Trails
Enhancement Program was hit especially hard by the dissolution of the Redevelopment Agency
and asked for clarification on ownership of the RC Family Resource Center. Director Nielsen
clarified that it is the RC Family Sports Center that is privately owned and then funded by the
Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency.
Doug Morris, Member of the Sports Advisory Committee, said he felt that a good turnout of
Committee Representatives were present at one of the stakeholder meetings. He supported the
need for an aquatics facility though not necessarily making a "fun" component a priority. He
supported building additional lit sports fields with dual uses and suggested that if some of the
neighborhood parks could be used by non-youth sports groups, that some fields could be freed
up and possibly some fields placed at Central Park. He asked whether a consultant was funded
for the last needs assessment and Director Nielsen confirmed that there was a paid consultant.
He thanked the City Council for their support and encouraged moving forward.
Jim Russell, Senior Advisory Committee Member, spoke of his attendance at one of the
stakeholder meetings which was a very positive experience. He expressed his thoughts that
most of concerns expressed would be resolved if Central Park is completed. He noted that
Consultant Barnholt had not clearly responded whether he had studied the Central Park Master
Plan and his surprise that a passive use of the park is being suggested since the facility is
extremely busy including the third expansion of Wellness Pass.
Dennis Jones supported following up on the desire of many of the respondents for additional
shade structures at the parks. He suggested that the park playgrounds need to be re-analyzed
for low cost alternatives and encouraged the City take advantage of Consultant Barnholts offer to
provide information on grants that might be available.
Jackie Amster recounted her experience as a participant on the first needs assessment of which
many projects have come to fruition. She stated her belief that these could not have been
accomplished without the expertise of a consultant. Ms. Amsler spoke of her observation that,
regardless of their intended use or design, parks and amenities will be used. She also told of her
disappointment in losing the art museum to the City of Ontario and of her support for an aquatics
center which doesn't necessarily have to be City owned.
Dean Shimek gave suggestions on possible use of some of the available acreage at Central Park
including building a botanical garden similar to the Rancho Santa Ana Botanic Garden in
Claremont.
No other public comments were received.
Closing discussion by the City Council and Park and Recreation Commission ensued.
Comments from the Commission included Commissioner Ryerson's support of re-visiting the
Central Park Master Plan and possible use of the current open space for native plants, nature
garden and other passive uses. Commissioner Jacks remarked on the fact that it would be
unrealistic to think that adequate funding would be available especially in light of the
Redevelopment Agency dissolution and that as an educator in the Etiwanda School District they
have also experienced the lack of adequate funding sources. She also felt that any proposed fee
or sales tax increases would be defeated. She added her support for the Commission to get out
in the community.
Council Member Steinorth told the Commission that he liked their comments and he thanked
Consultant Barnholt for his efforts. He referenced the statistics showing that the population
growth is slowing and that many are in favor of maintaining what the amenities the City already
has. He supported being as frugal as possible and to learn from the recent Landscape
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Maintenance Number 2 situation. He emphasized the need, as a City Council, to be extremely
cautious where fee increases are involved. Council Member Steinorth also asked to be updated
further on the Central Park Master Plan and suggested consideration of putting a project together
at the site even if on a small scale.
Consultant Barnholt re-clarified that the return rate for the surveys (9.2%) is an industry standard.
He reminded that the survey is not a vote but strictly an opinion of members of the community
and only one part of the decision making process. He continued that the survey was focused
City-wide and intentionally not just one area such as Central Park and that the question of
whether the survey participants are willing to pay is a necessary question to ask. He suggested
that if any project requiring additional fees or taxes moves forward, additional input from the
community is a necessity.
Mayor Pro Tem Spagnolo concurred with the fact that a majority of respondents placed
maintenance of current facilities, parks and amenities as a high priority. He asked for additional
clarification from Superintendent Moore regarding participation by the Sports Advisory
Committee. Superintendent Moore replied that those Members who participated adequately
represented that segment of the community.
Mayor Michaels referenced the proposed project timeline and advised the Commission that he
fully supports moving the deadlines a few months back if they feel additional time is needed by
staff and the Commission to further evaluate and discuss the matter.
Chair Matheny thanked the Mayor for his remarks and concurred that maybe additional time is
needed. She also asked how it was determined who would receive a survey. Consultant Barnholt
clarified that the surveys were selected at random by a professional research firm who had
secured homeowner addresses. Marketing Manager Palmer further explained the assessment's
planned methodology for public participation and involvement. Efforts, in addition to the mail and
telephone surveys, included conducting stakeholder interviews, hosting a meeting open to the
entire community, creation of an on-line community engagement site (Mind Mixer) and on-line
opportunity to complete the survey. Director Nielsen agreed with the importance of having a
random sampling of the community for the survey and City Manager Gillison re-explained the
mechanisms for how the responses are "weighted" to help ensure the most appropriate
representation City-wide.
Council Member Alexander stated his objection to "accepting" the report, as recommended in
staff's report, and reiterated his concerns expressed earlier. Council Member Williams also
expressed concern that goals/areas of focus were established. Commissioner Ryerson reminded
that the data in the report that cannot be manipulated would be the residents' responses. For the
benefit of those present Director Nielsen briefly explained the difference between conducting the
survey and analysis vs creation of a Park Master Plan. Following their discussion the following
action was taken:
MOTION: Moved by Alexander, seconded by Williams, to send the draft report, findings and
analysis of the City-wide Community Recreation Needs Assessment Project from GreenPlay, LLC
on to the Park and Recreation Commission for further review and return the matter to the City
Council for final approval at a regularly scheduled City Council Meeting. Motion carried: 5-0.
C. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS
Cl. Public communications were received during discussion of Item B1.
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D. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Michael adjourned the special meeting at 9:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Melissa Morales
Senior Administrative Secretary
Approved: August 21, 2013
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