HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014/08/27 - Workshop Minutes - PC-HPCTHE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
WORKSHOP MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
AUGUST 27, 2014 - 7:00 PM*
TRI -COMMUNITIES ROOM
10500 CIVIC CENTER DRIVE
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA
11 I. CALL TO ORDER
Roll Call 8:20 PM
Chairman Howdyshell X Vice Chairman Fletcher X
Munoz X Wimberly X Oaxaca X
11 II. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS
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Candyce Burnett, Planning Director, gave a broad overview of the purpose of the workshop, which
is to give the applicants the opportunity to present their conceptual project to the Commission and
for the Commission to offer comment and general direction.
Steven Flower, Assistant City Attorney noted that tonight's workshop would not include any action
or decision on the project, that is reserved for future public hearing(s).
Testimony was received from the following persons both in support and opposition of the project
Suzanne Thomas of Cross & Crown Church said their goal is to serve the community and
therefore need to sell a portion of theirproperty for financial reasons. She said the developer has
made a great effort to address the issues. She reported that the wall was built on part of the
church property and there was no written agreement concerning that.
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Lorraine Ming, a Toll Brothers homeowner, said the homeowners want the wall, it was built with a
permit and is described as a garden, perimeter and retaining wall of their development She said
the cost of the wall was included in the homeowners' purchase price. She said to remove it is
illegal. She said they rely on the wall for a garden look and safety.
Paul Russel said the City will collect some tax revenue from the development and said it would
enhance what is now a dry field. He offered support of the project and suggested they teardown
the wall.
Raymond Grigolla said he did not know why the traffic would be directed onto Carnesi. He said
his street is currently used by school traffic. He did not favor the project.
Regina Johnson said development near schools will always have traffic and we need to embrace
growth and development in the City.
Micheal Scott Jepson gave support of the project.
Jerry Bredlau said he lives on Pinon. He said the school traffic is awful and that there was an
agreement with the City about the wall. He did not support the project.
Patrick Lee said he lives on Camesi and opposes the removal of the wall. He said the builder
keeps changing the plans. He favored access to the project from Etiwanda Avenue and using the
church easement. He cited traffic impacts.
Debbie Camuu said Toll Brothers asked the church forpennission to build the wall and they gave
it because they wanted to be 'good neighbors'. She said the church wants to eliminate their debt.
She said she believes the Toll Brothers residents are trying to isolate themselves from the
community. She said the project would enhance property values and eliminate a vacant field.
Sharon Huey said Cross and Crown Church has a history of service here and abroad and that
promotes the good name of the City. She expressed support of the development.
Katherine Pretoria said she hopes for a 'win-win' for both groups. She looks forward to the new
homes and said Rancho Cucamonga is a wonderful place to live.
The public comment period closed at 8:45 PM.
III. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
A. WORKSHOP REVIEW OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP SUBTT18936 - STORM
WESTERN DEVELOPMENT INC -Site plan review of a 17 -lot subdivision totaling 8.32
acres (16 lots for residential purposes and 1 lot for existing church) currently located
within the Very Low (VL) Development District with a request for a General Plan
Amendment (DRC2013-00961) and an Etiwanda Specific Plan Amendment
(DRC2013-00962) to change the project site to Low (L) Residential (church site to
remain Very Low Residential) for a site located on the south side of Carnesi Drive and
east of Etiwanda Avenue, APN: 0227-061-03 and 82. Related files: General Plan
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Amendment DRC2013-00961 and Etiwanda Specific Plan Amendment DRC2013-00962
Tabe van der Zwaag, Associate Planner gave a PowerPoint presentation (copy on file)
detailing the project history, the residents' concerns and the evolution of various site
plans/proposals and the pros and cons of each.
Jay Ahluwalia, President of Storm Western Development gave a PowerPoint presentation
(copy on file) also describing their company history, project review history and the various
alternatives to the original plan submitted. He said he believes the wall was built to assist as
a retaining wall, to direct water flows and to provide a streamline street scene. He said
transitional landscaping would be provided to minimize the awkward condition of rearyards
backing up to a side yard. He said flag lots would prevent them from losing lots and
landscaping would minimize impacts. He said buyers like flag lots because they have long
driveways to park more cars. He noted many homes are built with these same conditions in
local neighborhoods.
Commissioner Fletcher expressed his appreciation to all those that came to the meeting. He
said he likes the reduced cut section of the wall. He said it is not appropriate to restrict the
property rights of the church. He said providing an Emergency Vehicle Access at the
knuckle of Street A is the best solution. that connecting with Pinon was not the best idea. He
said he did not have a big concern with side elevations along Camesi that those elevations
could be enhanced and they are likely to be somewhat hidden by the wall anyway. He said
he did not have a big problem with flag lots because they help deal with the uniqueness of
the property site. He said traffic generated by 16 homes is negligible. He said reducing the
cut of the wall would preserve the feeling of the Toll Brothers development to the north. He
said the project would be an enhancement to property values.
Commissioner Oaxaca said he generally concurs and both he and Commissioner Fletcher
serve on the DRC. He said they both thought the applicant should rethink the site plan. He
said the cul-de-sac solution is the more effective option. He said changing the density to
Low is the most reasonable approach. He said the rear/side yard and flag lot condition is not
ideal but at times unavoidable. He said he would want to see more details of the design of
the proposed entrance off Camesi Drive and he would also like to have a better idea of the
landscape treatments to mitigate the rear yard/side yard impacted lots.
Commissioner Munoz said part of the process is hearing both sides and the needs and
concerns of all. He said he concurs regarding property owners rights. He said it appears the
developer has gone to a great extent to try to address everyone's needs. He did not believe
traffic from 16 homes would be an issue. He said the density transition makes sense. He
said it seems to address the concerns of all 3 groups... no one group wins. He suggested
the developer focus on design. He said that new homes can mitigate the perception of
devaluation of the existing homes. He suggested that with the 60 -foot entry that it should be
a 'great' one (i.e. visually exceptional).
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Commissioner Wimberly concurred and suggested that they make the design as upscale as
possible. He said he is adamant about 360 degree architecture. He said he personally
dislikes flag lots and the side yard/rear yard configuration-. He said he recalls a suggestion
at a prior meeting to scale down the project to 14 lots and that he did not see that idea
presented. He said he recommends that they work on that suggestion. He said the
entrance/gateway should be as outstanding as possible.
Chairman Howdyshell thanked the Commissioners for their comments. She said smart
planning is key and that the aesthetics should be consistent with the Toll Brothers
development. She said they should blend the two and that is doable. She said the
approach/entry from Camesi to Street A should be "wow". She said she does not favor flag
lots. She thanked the community for corning out. She said this gives the applicant strong
feedback to put together the right project.
11 IV. ADJOURNMENT
9:37 PM
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