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WORKSHOP MINUTES OF
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CUCAMONGA THE PLANNING COMMISSION
September 23, 2015 - 4:30 PM
Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center
RAINS ROOM
10500 Civic Center Drive
Rancho Cucamonga, California
L CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance 437 p.m
Roll Call
Chairman Wimberly X Vice Chairman Oaxaca X
Munoz X Macias X Fletcher X
Additional Staff Present Candyce Burnett, Planning Director; Jeff Bloom, Deputy City
Manager/Economic and Community Development: Tom Grahn. Associate Planner: Donald
Granger. Senior Planner, Betty Miller, Senior Engineer; Lois Schrader. Planning Commission
Secretary: Rob Ball, Fire Marshall; Jennifer Palacios, Office Specialist 11
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III. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
PRE APPLICATION REVIEW DRC2015-00802-CHARLES JOSEPH ASSOCIATES-A
review of the site plan and elevations for a proposed 183-unit, multi-family apartment
complex on 4.45 acres of land in the Mixed Use(MU) District, Foothill Boulevard Overlay
District (FBOD), located at the northeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Hermosa
Avenue; APNs: 1077-601-13 and 1077-601-14.
Tom Grahn, Associate Planner gave a brief PowerPoint presentation (copy on file). He
noted the single-family house on a parcel to the east should be obtained by the
applicant if possible to be included in the development as this would be difficult at a later
time. He said the Mixed Use standards will be reviewed by the Council in October and
once the standards are adopted, the old standards would no longer apply. He referred to
Exhibit E of the staff report. He said the new standards for the General Plan and the
Development Code should be in place by the time of a full submittal. In response to
' Commissioner Fletcher, he said the old home could be dedicated to a future use or
redevelopment of the site. He noted the poor condition of it and that it could be a lost
opportunity. He noted it is not considered a historical home or site. He said the current
owners are not cooperative and a rehab would be very expensive. He said it could be
used for a shared drive approach and pedestrian access. He said it could be used as a
home or for a commercial use as it has in the past.
The applicant was represented by Jonathan Cornelius (Vice President of Fore Property
Company), Serafin Maranan (Architects Orange), Jennifer Easton (Architects Orange)
and Chuck Buquet of Charles Joseph Associates.
Chuck Buquet, Charles Joseph Associates, said this is a work in progress with a
preliminary design. He said the contemporary design was brought forward with a
previous project. He assented that the site does not show two uses and they need to
work through this. He noted that tandem parking was approved for Empire Lakes. He
said they will get a parking study for this development. He said they are ok with how the
parking is currently shown. He said a good faith effort has already been made to the
single home owner and he did not believe an acquisition is likely to happen. He did not
agree that a drive aisle on the east side is justification for the acquisition.
Jonathan Cornelius gave a brief company history. He said they perform a parking
distribution analysis so tenants are not inconvenienced and they regularly provide
tandern parking at their developments. He said it works fine if it is managed well and
parking is assigned. He said they are fine with the parking ratio as it is and they have
done it many tunes. He said they are not set in stone with the more urban look that is
pushed toward the street. He said the current restriction of only allowing single-story
buildings within 100 feet of existing homes leaves them few options for parking. He said
with respect to the required mix of uses, there is the concern of not enough demand for
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retail/commercial uses. He said they are open to creating a flex space that could be
residential at first and then could be converted to commercial later if the demand
changes.
Serafin Maranan of Architects Orange said the buildings along Foothill Boulevard could
have a commercial/storefront look. He said the main 4-story building is an elevator
building. He said there are 2-story/double loaded carriage garages with a living space
above on the 2nd floor. He said these units break up and soften the parking field. He
said the clubhouse/fitness/leasing space is in the building along Foothill Boulevard and
the fitness area is about 2.000 square feet.
1L1r. Cornelius said the fitness space is of legitimate size and not a token. He said they
are attempting to activate the streetscape along Foothill i.e.generating activity. He said
the owner of the single home is not a willing seller, so they are not hopeful.
' Mr. Buquet said with respect to Exhibit E. the land use mix is the only problem:the other
items will be provided later.
Mr. Serafin said the green area in the courtyard is over 6.000 square feet of open space.
Jeff Bloom. DCM Economic/Community Development said this is a chance to make the
bridge to new ideas. He said the Commission has seen this concept in their field trips.
He said with respect to tandem parking, we need to look at how it is applied. He
appreciated the breakdown on the chart(Exhibit Q. He suggested the Commission look
broadly at this. He suggested an agreement that will not hold this developer hostage
later. He said some landholders have high expectations about the worth of their
property. He said community activity is important and to plot out what is in the vicinity of
this site. He said there is lots of latitude on the architectural style, as many are looking
for more variety in the City's architecture.
Chairman Wimberly said there is an opportunity to play with the concepts and step out
of the box with this one.
Vice Chairman Oaxaca said this would be innovative for us: a bridge project. He said
this one is more important to the City than others because it is on an important corridor.
He said we need to evolve. He said it is unfortunate we may not be able to incorporate
the single-family parcel to the east. He said he would like to see more of the mixed use
spirit. He said he is not totally comfortable with the size of the structures. He said for
mixed use he is looking for a more pedestrian friendly design within and with continuity
along the corridor: they need to facilitate movement to the transit options. He said there
is a timing challenge in that we are in transition as a City. we are working on future
standards. He expressed concern about the parking as we do not want a problem later.
He said he wants a greater assurance that this works in real life for the residents. guests
and family. He said he does not want to make changes in the standards just for this
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project. He said with respect to the contemporary design he would like to see a better
visual in context. He said he wants to know we are making a good decision.
Commissioner Macias said he likes the more modern architecture: he welcomes it. He
said he is not too bothered by the single use issue: he believes achieving the correct
density is more important to get transit in place. He said he likes the concept of the
bottom floor design to appear to have mixed use development. He said the residential
use would affect transit more than commercial. He suggested the applicant continue
their discussions with the private property owner. He noted that as a child he observed
Route 66 and recognized it as being very unique and totally inconsistent in design. He
said he does not see the VIP Route 66 as being a trap because it has a multitude of
things included in it. He said it varied from historic elements all the way to the space
age in design.
Commissioner Fletcher expressed concern about urban development in this location.
' He said Foothill Boulevard is a mess and we need to create identity: we are losing our
sense of identity. He said the Route 66 theme is more historic than urban and placing
this contemporary architecture next to Villaggio is not consistent. He said TOD and this
architecture is more appropriate to the south in the golf course area (Empire Lakes). He
said he prefers the Tuscan/Mediterranean style. He said the development should be in
conformance with the General Plan. He said the store front space sounds too small a
space. He said the parking may be a problem. He said tandem parking is ok as long as
there are enough spaces. He said he has a concern about urban massiveness on
Hermosa/Foothill: it doesn't fit and needs a more historic presence as it is in line with the
local wineries.
Commissioner Munoz said the architecture is ok, he is not opposed to more
contemporary design as long as it provides lots of horizontal and vertical movement. He
said it needs more natural materials. He said he is tired of the old stuff and has no
problem with contemporary if it is well done. He said the parking is a real problem as
there is no location for the parking to spill out to. He said with assigned parking and
similar reduced parking arrangements. we tend to manage for about a year and then we
have problems. He said one developer came back to us a year later asking for more
parking on the streets. He said they will not be able to do that here. He said so far they
are doing a good job.
Chairman Wimberly said that if this is a TOD, the area needs to be more pedestrian
friendly especially at the corner. He said that the density component and parking is not
there yet. He said he looks forward to seeing their modifications. He said when they
' see the applicant again and as they work with staff he would like to not see variances or
General Plan amendments: he wants it to be there without creating new rules.
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L1r. Cornelius said their submittal will come in behind the City adoption of their new
standards.
IV. ADJOURNMENT
5:50 p.fn.
1. Lois J. Schrader, Planning Commission Secretary of the City of Rancho Cucamonga, or my designee, hereby
certify that a true, accurate copy of the foregoing agenda was posted on September 17. 2015, at least 72 hours
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