HomeMy WebLinkAbout2017/08/09 - Minutes - PC-HPCAUGUST 9, 2017
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A. 7:00 P.M. - CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance 7:03 PM
Roll Call: Chairman Oaxaca
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Vice Chairman Macias
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Commissioner Fletcher
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Commissioner Munoz
Commissioner Wimberly
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Additional Staff Present Candyce Burnell. City Planner. Nick Ghirelli. City Attorney: Torn Grahn, Associate
Planner. Donald Granger, Senior Planner. Albert Espinoza. Asst. City Engineer: Lois Schrader. Planning
Commission Secretary: Mike Smith. Senior Planner: Oat Tian, Assistant Planner: Jana Cook. Community
Improvement Manager: Michael Frasure, Building Inspection Supervisor, Rob Ball, Fire Marshall
B. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS
This is the time and place for the general public to address the Historic Preservation
Commission or Planning Commission on any item listed or not listed on the agenda. State law
prohibits the Commission from addressing any issue not previously included on the Agenda.
The Commission may receive testimony and set the matter for a subsequent meeting.
Comments are to be limited to five minutes per individual or less, as deemed necessary by the
Chair, depending upon the number of individuals embers of the audience. This is a professional
business meeting and courtesy and decorum are expected. Please refrain from any debate
between audience and speaker, making loud noises or engaging in any activity which might be
disruptive to the decorum of the meeting.
Brian Heibelin, 12778 Camassia Court reported a haunted house operation is an issue in his
neighborhood. He said it is loud, it takes 2 weeks to set up, there is excessive traffic, trash everywhere
and a safety issue.
C. CONSENT CALENDAR/HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
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The following Consent Calendar items are expected to be routine and non -controversial. They
will be acted upon by the Commission at one time without discussion. Any item may be removed
for discussion.
C1. Consideration to adopt Regular Meeting Minutes of July 26, 2017
Moved by Munoz. seconded by Wimberly carried (4-0-1 Fletcher Abstain) to adopt the
minutes of July 26. 2017.
D. ANNOUNCEMENTS/PRESENTATIONS
D1. INTRODUCTION TO THE CENTRAL PARK MASTER PLAN UPDATE
Presentation by Dr. Sean Welsh, Parks and Recreation Commissioner, gave an
update on the process and invited the public to the 3 workshops scheduled at Central
park 6-8 pin. He distributed flyers and noted there is no funding for this project or on
reserve for this project.
E. PUBLIC HEARINGS/PLANNING COMMISSION
The following items have been advertised and/or posted as public hearings as required by law.
The Chairman will open the public hearing to receive testimony. All such opinions shall be
limited to 5 minutes per individual or less as determined by the Chairman. Please sign in after
speaking.
El. DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT DRC2017-00400 — CITY OF RANCHO
CUCAMONGA - A request to amend Title 17 (Development Code) of the Municipal Code to
add a definition for "haunted house" and to add additional requirements for the operation of
haunted house temporary uses. This item is exempt from the requirements of the California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and the City's CEQA guidelines under CEQA Section
15061(b)(3). This item will be forwarded to the City Council for final action.
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Dat Tran. Assistant Planner, gave a PowerPoint presentation (copy on file) summarizing the
code amendment proposal. It was note(] that the attachment to the resolution is placed before
the Commission for review.
Rob Ball, Fire Marshall reviewed the Fire Code definition and noted that haunted houses are
intentionally constructed to be confusing such as a rnaze with lack of lighting and this creates
an atmosphere of suspense or anxiety. He said there are both Small (accommodate less than
50 people at a time) and large varieties of haunted houses. He said they received complaints
last year and the impacts may need to be addressed with respect to haunted houses in
• residential neighborhoods.
Chairman Oaxaca asked how many complaints were received. He said of the complaints one
was associated with a residential type haunted house.
Jana Cook, Community Improvement Manager said the Fire Department generally handled all
reports and complaints although Community Improvement dealt with noise complaints from
larger commercial type operations. She said without regulations there is no way to enforce
these operations. She said she supports staff's recornmendation.
Chairman Oaxaca asked if she could give an example of a comparison.
Ms. Cook said there is a large party ordinance, but enforcement is dependent upon if the hosts
are repeatedly hosting large parties which means the police would have to come back more
than once to enforce it. Since this use is not repetitive, there is no opportunity to come back.
She said the complaints are typically foot traffic. property trespassing, noise. sanitation. trash.
etc.
Commissioner Wimberly ask about our capability for the city or our agencies to enforce
anything. He asked what the City can do to them if they put up a haunted house without a
permit.
Ms. Cook said it is part of Title 1 of the Municipal Code/a misdemeanor which can be
prosecuted criminally or administratively — she said there may also be Building Code
• violations.
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Michael Frasure, Building Inspection Supervisor said smaller haunted houses in
neighborhoods are not typically violating the Building Code, but they do erect hazards. He
said the larger ones have significant props, tunnels, walls and electrical issues. He said
building permits would be required. He said a good example would be the haunted house
operated by Bass Pro — it is regulated well.
Mr. Tran noted that v✓e also reached out to the public viith a newspaper ad and others that
contacted us and we gave the 3 largest haunted house operators an opportunity to provide
comments to us.
Chairman Oaxaca opened the public hearing. •
Dale Waterman 10185 Palo Alto said he has had a haunted house for 25 years and has
operated a haunted house at this address with no complaints. He said they receive thanks
and accolades from the neighbors for a fun and safe event. He said they cease at 10pm
except on Friday & Saturday. He said he believes a ban on haunted houses in residential
areas is an extreme response. He suggested the City limit the days/hours/and not allow for
money or donations instead of approving the drafted arnendrnent.
Commissioner Fletcher asked if they advertise.
Mr: Waterman said it is by word of mouth only with a fabric sign.
Karen Michael 12789 Carnassia Court said she has been a resident for 30 years and there is
a haunted house that operates across the street from her. She said it goes for 4 days, late
beyond 10:00 pm, there is trash, dtinking,'alcohol, and cigarette butts on her wall. She said
the operator asked teenagers to provide .security and there were other complaints on the
street. She said the operator she is referring to does advertise on the internet and collected
donations but they discovered the donation was "after expenses." therefore no money was
actually donated.
Mario Gonzalez. 7611 Duck Creek Place said he is ao operator and a general contractor said
it has been a tradition for many years. He said one year the Fire Department shut him down
and he learned a lot from Rob Ball as to how to make the needed improvements. He said a •
buddy of his went commercial but he chose to stay residential. He said he donates to the
children hospital and never had complaints. He said they operate more than one day.
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Mohammed (-unintelligible-) said he is Mario's neighbor and his haunted house is a great
addition to the community and a tradition. He said there are no complaints -it is safe and
organized.
Dale Waterman said these people (Mr: Gonzalez) seem to run an excellent operation- he said
complaints were received for one haunted house. He suggested operating for one day should
be acceptable. He said he would want to be sure if its out of control it gets managed.
• Kevin Keilly residing at 10170 25" Street said he lives in the old town area— He said he had c.
haunted house and it expanded over the years —then he helped Dale and Mario with theirs.
He suggested an alternate proposal (copy on file). He suggested restricted days hour's, the
operation be totally free and no donations taken, no sales, a requirement to clear trash withir
a 100-foot radius /no advertising but allow them their facebook page and if the operator does
not follow the rules then the City can deny future permits.
Commissioner Macias asked if he has liability insurance for his haunted house operation.
Mr. Keilly was unsure.
Commissioner Fletcher asked if his haunted house is inside the house.
Mr. Keilly said it is all outside and not within the house.
Commissioner Fletcher asked if he could do it at a church or community center as it becomes
more than a neighborhood thing with crowds and using social media may not work out
Mr. Keilly said he works with the Waterman's on theirs.
Chairman Oaxaca closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Macias said Halloween is great fun and he respects the traditions and
neighborhood expectations however. there is always someone who messes it up for everyone
• else. He said he values the integrity of our residential community and public safety. He said
he did not believe time or clay constraints will limit the potential for complaints. He said if we
allow these to continue and not regulate them, there will be more and more. He said the
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amendment is reasonable and prudent and if a haunted house is that sophisticated then it
could be done in a rented -out facility. He also expressed concern about protecting residents
and the operators. He said they need to demonstrate they have liability insurance. He said
he -supports staff recommendation with the additional requirement that operators prove they
have insurance.
Commissioner Munoz agreed and empathized with those running good haunted house
operations He said he is concerned about the complaints about drinking/trash 3 other
neighbor complaints and particularly took issue with using teenagers as guards security. He
said other persons come in from other communities for these and we need to ensure safety, is
said any violation could be deadly and poses a teat concern for children such as excess
vehicles. He said operators of homemade haunted houses can -not control all of these things.
He said he has a concern for the City at large and supports the recommendation of staff.
Commissioner Wimberly concurred with all the prior comments and said some operators
believe this amendment is harsh, but there are safety issues and. liability and therefore he
supports the amendments.
Cornnussioner Fletcher said he did not know if homeowners' insurance would cover this type
of operation at a private residence. He said this situation is difficult to enforce and would be
better held at some non-residential location. He said if they are doing it for donations -there is
always a desire to raise more each year and therefore finding a different location would be
better for their efforts. He said Rancho Cucamonga has a reputation as a safe and peaceful
city - all residents should have quiet peaceful enjoyment of their neighborhood- staff (lid well
assessing and hearing the concerns of all. He said a ban in residential areas is a good solution
and does not restrict those who want haunted houses, it just requires a different location.
Chairman Oaxaca thanked staff for the detailed report. He said he is a Halloween fan and
guilty of decorating for Halloween. He said he initially believed there were many more
complaints than what were reported by staff and there are two residential haunted houses that
are managed responsibly. He said he .vould like additional discussion to provide a pathway
for haunted houses in residential areas. He said community integrity also means there are
opportunities for people to interact. He said he is sensitive to the challenges for staff to
maintain safely and enforce and also has sensitivity to the neighbors. He said he feels this •
may be a heavy handed/sledgehammer to a small nail. He asked if any of the other
commissioners were oven to accommodate additional discussion.
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Commissioner Fletcher said he neglected to mention social media, noting that it is very easy
to inundate a neighborhood with outside residents coming in. He said when haunted houses
become competitive with the need to be better each year then it is not a neighborhood event
anymore as they are drawing people outside of city. He said this principal can also apply to
parties and other, events and it causes severe problems. He said he had over 300 people
show up to a party held in his neighborhood and the Police Department came and shut it down.
He said If we allow haunted houses in residential areas this will occur.
• Chairman Oaxaca said the speaker noted it was his personal Facebook page meaning his
own followers, and not advertising.
Vise Chairman Macias said as these continue. they become more popular and just like
cellphones and texting-this will continue to 'haunt -their activities -kids will text and meet there.
He said he was not sure this is a community activity as these activities attract the younger
folks that may not necessarily be front that neighborhood. He added that the word spreads
year over year. He said his decision still stands -it's about the integrity of residential
communities.
Commissioner Munoz concurred with Commissioners Fletcher & Macias - he said it is an
activity that will get bigger. He said the Commission is not here to discuss alternatives as a
have proposal is before us that has been researched. He said we have to give the first
responders, the Planning department. the code, and the Building Official what they need to
keep public safe. He said he is glad some clean up after themselves but these can create a
nuisance. He moved to approve staffs recommendation.
Vice Chairman Macias said he would also like to consider adding language to require
applicants to prove they have liability coverage for the uses in the General Industrial and
Commercial areas.
Nick Ghirelli, City Attorney said we are not prepared to provide that language tonight but that
the City Pisk Manager should advise us on that. He recommended we could include language
to show proof of liability insurance as we// as making the definition for haunted houses be
• made consistent with the definition from the California Building and Fire Code.
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Moved by Munoz, seconded by Fletcher, carried 4-1 (Oaxaca opposed) to adopt the resolution
as amended with the corrected definition recommending approval of Development Code
Amendment DRC2017-00400 to be foiwarded to the City Council for final action. The
Commission asked for an inclusion of a requitement of applicant/haunted house operators to
provide proof of liability insurance. Staff will pursue the request with the City Risk Manager.
E2. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT DRC2016-00206 -
PACIFIC SUMMIT FOOTHILL, LLC - A request to amend tables and text, including clarifying
text as necessary, in the General Plan to allow the development of land that contains slopes
of 30 percent or greater. Related files: Tentative Tract Map SUBTT16605M, Design Review •
DRC2012-00672, Variance DRC2016-00207, and Tree Removal Permit DRC2012-00673.
Staff has prepared a Mitigated Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for
consideration. This application will be forwarded to the City Council for final action.
CONTINUANCE REQUESTED TO AN UNSPECIFIED DATE.
E3. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP MODIFICATION
SUBTT16605M - PACIFIC SUMMIT FOOTHILL, LLC - A request subdivide 24.19 acres into
6 parcels for the development of 175 condominium units in the Mixed Use (MU) District located
on the north side of Foothill Boulevard, between Red Hill Country Club Drive and Pacific
Electric Trail Right -of -Way; 207-101-13, 17, 24, 25, 31, 34, and 41 and 207-112-09 and 10.
Related Files: General Plan Amendment DRC2016-00206, Design Review DRC2012-00672,
Variance DRC2016-00207, and Tree Removal Permit DRC2012-00673. Staff has prepared
a Mitigated Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. CONTINUANCE
REQUESTED TO AN UNSPECIFIED DATE.
E4. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW DRC2012-00672 - PACIFIC
SUMMIT FOOTHILL, LLC - A request to develop 175 attached condominium units on 24.19
acres of land in Mixed Use (MU) District, located on the north side of Foothill Boulevard,
between Red Hill Country Club Drive and the Pacific Electric Trail Right -of -Way; APN: 207-
101-13, 17, 24, 25, 31, 34, and 41 and 207-112-09 and 10. Related Files: General Plan
Amendment DRC2016-00206, Tentative Tract Map SUBTT16605M, Variance DRC2016-
00207, and Tree Removal Permit DRC2012-00673. Staff has prepared a Mitigated Negative
Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration. CONTINUANCE REQUESTED TO
AN UNSPECIFIED DATE. •
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E5. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VARIANCE DRC2016-00207 - PACIFIC SUMMIT
FOOTHILL, LLC - A request to exceed the 30 foot building envelop established by
Development Code Section 17.122.020.D.1.e.(i and ii) for the develop 175 attached
condominium units on 24.19 acres of land in the Mixed Use (MU) District, located on the north
side of Foothill Boulevard, between Red Hill Country Club Drive and the Pacific Electric Trail
Right -of -Way; APN: 207-101-13, 17, 24, 25, 31, 34, and 41 and 207-112-09 and 10. Related
Files: General Plan Amendment DRC2016-00206, Tentative Tract Map SUBTT16605M,
Design Review DRC2012-00672, and Tree Removal Permit DRC2012-00673. Staff has
prepared a Mitigated Negative Declaration of environmental impacts for consideration.
• CONTINUANCE REQUESTED TO AN UNSPECIFIED DATE.
E6. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT - DRC2012-00673 -
PACIFIC SUMMIT FOOTHILL, LLC - A request to remove 188 trees associated with the
proposed development of 175 attached condominium units on 24.19 acres of land in Mixed
Use (MU) District, located on the north side of Foothill Boulevard, between Red Hill Country
Club Drive and the Pacific Electric Trail Right -of -Way, APN: 207-101-13, 17, 24, 25, 31, 34,
and 41 and 207-112-09 and 10. Related Files: General Plan Amendment DRC2016-00206,
Tentative Tract Map SUBTT16605M, Design Review DRC2012-00672, and Variance
DRC2016-00207. Staff has prepared a Mitigated Negative Declaration of environmental
impacts for consideration. CONTINUANCE REQUESTED TO AN UNSPECIFIED DATE.
Tom Grahn. Associate Planner, noted two iterns of correspondence had been received related
to the project application, one from the Department of Fish and Wildlife suggesting an
additional mitigation measure and the other from Hank Stoy. a Red Hill resident in opposition
of the development (copies on file and placed before the Commission). He said staff is asking
to continue the items to allow time to address comments and to allow for an additional
neighborhood meeting prior to the Planning Commission public hearing. He said the
neighborhood meeting is next Thursday at the Lions Community Center from 6.30-7:30 pm.
He said notices can be mailed out tomorrow. He said although the Staff report recommends
a continuance to a non-specific date, staff now recommends they be continued to the
August 23, 2017 hearing date. He said the iterns will be re -noticed, posted and advertised.
Chairman Oaxaca opened the public hearing.
• Hank Stoy 8509 Calle Carabe thanked Mr. Grahn for being so accessible and responsive. He
said he did not have specific project comments at this time and he and some other, individuals
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will come to the next hearing. He said they expect to get notice and the next meeting may not
allow for enough notice. He suggested it be continued to the first meeting in September
instead.
Commissioner Fletcher said he sensed Mr: Stoy did not think it was enough time for noticing.
Mr. Grahn said that with the new mailing notice and the neighborhood meeting there should
be enough tirne.
Moved by Munoz, seconded by Wimberly, carried 5-0 to continue Items E2-E6 to the •
August 23, 2017 meeting date and that the items would be re -advertised for that date.
E. COMMISSION BUSINESS/HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND
PLANNING COMMISSION
INTER -AGENCY UPDATES: Commissioner Munoz noted our representatives in Sacramento will be
addressing housing issues when they reconvene. He said one Bill holds cities to RHNA numbers and
removes any latitude from cities. He said he is opposed. He also noted Bill 649 and that our City is on record
as being opposed. He said once the Bill is published there is only,) 3-day window to effectively oppose the
decision.
COMMISSION ANNOUNCEMENTS: None
F. ADJOURNMENT
8:43 PM
1, Lois J. Schrader, Planning Commission Secretary of the City of Rancho Cucamonga, or my
designee, hereby certify that a true, accurate copy of the foregoing agenda was posted on
August 3, 2017, seventy-two (72) hours prior to the meeting per Government Code
54954.2 at 10500 Civic Center Drive. •
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Lois J. Schrader
Planning Commission Secretary
City of Rancho Cucamonga
INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC
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