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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
October 25, 2000
Chairman McNiel called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission to order at 7:30 p.m. The meeting was held in the Rains Room at Rancho Cucamonga
Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Rich Macias, John Mannerino, Larry McNiel
ABSENT: Pam Stewart, Peter Tolstoy
STAFF PRESENT: Laura Bonaccorsi, Associate Park Planner; Brad Buller, City Planner; Linda
Daniels, Redevelopment Director; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Dan James,
Senior Civil Engineer; Debra Meier, Contract Planner; Joe Stofa, Associate
Engineer
OLD BUSINESS
A. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND VICTORIA COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT 98-01
AND ETIWANDA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 98-01 — AMERICAN BEAUTY
DEVELOPMENT CO.—An overview of the land use and village concept for a proposed project
known as the Victoria Arbors Village on approximately 420 acres in the Victoria Community
Plan and the Etiwanda Specific Plan area, generally bounded by Base Line Road to the north,
Day Creek Channel to the west, Etiwanda Avenue to the east, and Foothill Boulevard to the
south—APN: 227-201-04, 13 through 18, 22, 28 through 31, 33, and 36; 227-161-28, 31, 33,
35, 36, and 38; 227-171-08, 11, 12, 20, 22, 23, and 25; and 227-211-40.
Brad Buller, City Planner, gave a recap of the October 11, 2000, workshop.
John Morrisette, American Beauty Development Co., stated that they had taken the Commission's
comments to heart and increased the width of the smallest lots from 50 to 53 feet. He then turned it
over to Bob Lacoss for design presentation.
Bob Lacoss, PDS West, described the seven alternatives of plotting houses, an example of a
residential block with the alternative house plotting, and a typical street-scene with the house design.
Mr. Buller clarified to the Commission that the applicant was looking for a consensus on supporting a
Mixed Use zoning, and the concept of the residential lot pattern as shown in the illustrative concept
plan. He stated that the next level of review by the Commission was the Master Plan,which would
have details of the subdivision and the housing products design.
Mr. Morrisette clarified to the Commission that they would be coming back with a Development
Agreement and would like to have a flexibility of the density range of 5 to 10 units per acre for the
planning area at the northeast corner of Future Victoria Loop Road and Church Street.
Chairman McNiel opened the meeting for discussion.
Commissioner Mannerino liked the concepts of the seven house plotting alternatives. He raised a
concern regarding shared garage walls.
Commissioner Macias agreed that he too liked the concept of the house plotting but said he would
be looking for the details to be reviewed at the Master Plan level. He supported the Mixed Use zone.
Chairman McNiel liked the concept as well and the mix of 5,300 square foot lots with the larger ones.
He expressed concerns regarding increasing the density range to 5 to 10 units per acre.
Mr. Buller summarized the conceptual support from the Commissioners present for the alternatives
presented. He noted that the concepts presented would next be seen in greater detail with the
Master Plan and/or the Development Agreement for the project.
NEW BUSINESS
B. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 00-34 — COSTCO
WHOLESALE—A proposal to construct a 149,705 square foot retail store,which also includes
a tire sales and installation center(5,200 square feet), food service (1,042 square feet) and
gas pumps, located on the north side of 4th Street between Buffalo Avenue and the Interstate
15 on/off ramps, in the Industrial Park District(Subarea 12)-APN: 229-263-19,20,21, and a
portion of 18.
Brad Buller, City Planner gave opening statements, project background, and introductions.
Ken McKintley, McClellan Hunter Architects, provided an overview of the architectural concept that
was provided to initiate discussion with the Commission. The applicants indicated that the building
structure and floor design preclude the use of tilt-up concrete construction and requires that the
building be masonry. In addition, they explained that the Costco CEO insists on maintaining a
warehouse appearance to enhance the customer psychology of the warehouse pricing.
Mr. Buller and Debra Meier, Contract Planner, provided some observations about the proposed
architectural style as presented in the application and summarized an earlier meeting between the
applicant and staff.
Mr. Buller summarized written comments provided by Commissioner Stewart, which included the
following: a) the entrance is not very well defined; b) vertical elements should be added to the
building design to provide definition and break up the low profile of the structure; c)the renderings
portray the building as having competing design elements, including materials and colors.
Commissioner Macias did not favor the use of metal siding. He felt it is important to include a
variation of materials; however, he was not impressed with the material palette or design as
presented and was skeptical of the design solutions that were presented.
Commissioner Mannerino simply felt the concept as presented was not a good design solution. He
indicated he is open to a variety of material choices, but said the design solution must be good. Mr.
Mannerino stated that Mr. Bartok's involvement in the design and approval of the Lowe's store,
shows he knows how to be more creative.
Commissioner McNiel indicated that, given the location of the site near the freeway and Ontario Mills,
the design of this building must be top quality in terms of design and materials. He stated he is not
completely opposed to block as part of the overall design, but the concept must be more stately to
reflect the character of Rancho Cucamonga.
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Mr. Buller summarized the discussion. He encouraged the applicants to explore all available
masonry materials that could be used to provide some different design, color, or statement as the
Commissioners had indicated. He also suggested that the masonry block could include an outward
finish (i.e. stucco) with foam design details to create an entirely new design statement. He
suggested that perhaps the quality of the project could be focused on site details(i.e. rock, art,etc.)
rather than entirely on the building.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission adjoumed at 9:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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