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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
July 26, 1995
Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council
Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: Larry McNiel, John Melcher
STAFF PRESENT:
Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner;
Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Cindy Hackett, Associate Engineer;
Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil
Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner; Shelley Petrelli,
Planning Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that Item C could be taken out of sequence
on the agenda as he had received a fax from the applicant that the item was
withdrawn.
Commissioner Lumpp stated he was disappointed to hear the item was withdrawn
because he felt the septic tank issue could have been worked out.
Chairman Barker asked if the applicant, Mr. Mester, was present and receiving no
response, he stated he would hold the item on the agenda in case Mr. Mester
showed up to make a statement.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-2, to approve the
minutes of May 10, and May 31, 1995, Adjourned Meetings, as amended. Motion:
Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-2, to approve the minutes of
July 12, 1995 Adjourned Meeting.
CONSENT CALENDAR
DESIGN REVIEW FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 13316 -L. D. KING - The design review of
conceptual building pads and typical single story house products for a
recorded tract consisting of 123 lots in the Very Low Residential District,
located on the east side of Archibald Avenue, north of Carrari Street -
APN: 1074-651-15 through 2, 1046-601-01 through 14, 1074-611-01 through 16,
1074-021-02 through 26, and 1074-051-09 through 16.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-2, to approve Design
Review for Tentative Tract 13316.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 95-17 - TING - A request to construct a 1,189 square
foot second dwelling unit in the Very Low Residential District (less than 2
dwelling units/acre), located at 6029 Vineyard Avenue - APN: 1062-281-31.
(Continued from July 12, 1995.)
Chairman Barker announced that he had received a fax indicating that Mr. Ting,
the architect, would not be present for the meeting this evening.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Larry Rice, 6073 Vineyard, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he had a few issues to
discuss, but first he wanted to comment on Ms. Lee's letter to City Code
Enforcement dated July 14, 1995. He commented that in the letter, Ms. Lee had
stated that she was not running a business out of the residence; however, he said
that there are advertisements in both the 1993-94 and 1994-95 Yellow Pages for
"Golden Fox Corporation" under the heading "Shoes - Wholesale, Manufacturers"
listing the address as 6029 Vineyard. Mr. Rice expressed his concerns: 1) the
proposed second dwelling would detract from the appearance of the neighborhood
because the front yard (of the main dwelling) would be mostly concrete after
allowing for secondary access; 2) the noise level would increase because of
additional traffic; and 3) the traffic increase would endanger pedestrians,
especially children, because there are no sidewalks. He stated that these were
all valid reasons to deny the project.
Sharon Kobalt, Kobalt Realty, representing her client, stated her client's
property backs up to the proposed project. She further commented that her client
left the state, but said he was told by the City, that this project had been
withdrawn. She stated the project would be a detriment to the neighborhood.
Richard Marozocco, 6021 Vineyard, Rancho Cucamonga, showed the Commission
pictures of the front of the property and pointed out the number cars parked at
the property and the trees that would need to be removed for the new driveway.
He commented that he and some of his neighbors were told by City staff that the
project had been withdrawn and they did not need to come to the meeting. He felt
that more people would have returned to this meeting had they not been given that
information. He commented that he had given staff a petition that he wanted to
be sure the Commission saw.
Chairman Barker indicated that the Commission had a copy of the petition.
Mr. Marozocco recapped points from the last meeting while he showed the plot plan
to the Commission and explained how the lot area was figured by the architect.
He commented that the balcony of the proposed second dwelling would overlook his
property and that privacy is an issue for him. He further stated that the
current staff report recommends denial, but he said that what bothered him was
the applicant could refile without prejudice, which indicated to him that the
applicant could reapply next week and over and over again. He requested that the
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resolution be revised to contain language that would prevent the applicant from
doing this.
Brad Buller, City Planner, explained the difference between denial with and
without prejudice. He said if the project was denied without prejudice, the
applicant could reapply any time with the same project; if the project was denied
with prejudice, the applicant could not refile the same application for one year.
Chairman Barker stated that no decision is ever totally final, and reiterated
that, if they deny the project with prejudice, the applicant could reapply next
year and obtain a different result. He commented that citizens should always
keep themselves apprised of local governmental issues.
Jackie Phillips, 6039 Zircon, Rancho Cucamonga, said she felt she should have
received notification on the hearings and she did not. She said that she found
out from a neighbor on Vineyard.
Chairman Barker stated that, as mentioned in the previous meeting, staff used a
mailing list based on the property tax assessors' mailing list, which may not
have been current or contained incorrect zip codes. He relayed that the City was
working on an alternate source for this information and that Ms. Phillips should
have been notified.
Mr. Coleman stated that Ms. Phillips was on the list for both mailings, with her
address listed as 6039 Zircon, Rancho Cucamonga, 91701. He further commented
that the second notice went out the day after the first meeting, which was almost
two weeks ago.
Ms. Phillips replied that was her current address, but reiterated she did not
receive a notice.
Mr. Coleman noted that there had been no returned mail on the project.
Ms. Phillips clarified her understanding of the two different denial processes
and requested that the project be denied with prejudice.
Mike Rademaker, 6020 Zircon, Rancho Cucamonga, reiterated his previous concern
with the traffic impacts and children playing in the area. He commented that
Resolution No. 81-80 stated that if the Commission established a second structure
on the street, the entire street should be given a sidewalk to give the children
a safe place to play. He commented this project would impair the privacy of the
neighbors. He further commented, that even though the market is slow now,
1/2-acre property is selling for about $100 per square foot and it was his
opinion that this project could affect the marketability of the surrounding
properties.
Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Lummp stated that his concerns were similar to those of the
residents. He commented that there are provisions in State law that allows
Cities to make decisions to designate (or not), second dwelling units in certain
areas of the community if specific findings can be made (e.g. sewer, water, etc.)
that warrant the situation is feasible. He commented that health and safety was
very important and that staff may want to consider a provision that eliminates
second dwelling units in this area. He stated that he was also concerned with
the aesthetics of the neighborhood, privacy, and the residents' inability to
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utilize their property the way it was intended (e.g. equestrian trails, corrals,
etc.) He recommended denial of the project with prejudice.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that he had several reasons to support denial of the
project, but that he would touch on three: 1) the Santa Aria Regional Water
Quality Board has ruled that 1/2-acre property could only support one septic
system; 2) the project would deny equestrian use by adjoining properties; and
3) even though the City does not enforce neighborhood CC&Rs, the CC&Rs prohibit
it.
Chairman Barker stated he was on the Planning Commission several years ago when
they worked out the details for construction of a "Granny Flat" (a one-story,
second dwelling unit without a kitchen). He gave a brief synopsis of how and why
the Planning Commission came up with their determinations for this type of
dwelling. He commented that later a Federal ruling came about that required
communities to provide more affordable housing, which changed the way local
communities were allowed to determine local issues regarding zoning, type of
structure, etc., for a second dwelling unit. Chairman Barker stated there were
numerous reasons, already mentioned, why the use is inappropriate and he
recommended denial with prejudice·
Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Tolstoy, to deny Conditional Use permit 95-17.
Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MCNIEL, MELCHER
BARKER, LUMPP, TOLSTOY
- carried
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 95-04 -MESTER - A request to provide a temporary
modular unit as a second dwelling unit in the Very Low residential
designation (less than 2 dwelling units per acre), located at 8455 Hillside
Road - APN: 1061-701-10. (Continued from July 12, 1995.)
Chairman Barker asked if the applicant was present, and as he was not, the item
was withdrawn per the faxed request sent by Mr. Mester.
DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT 95-01 AND INDUSTRIAL AREA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT
95-03 - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - Consideration of adding Chapter 9.28 to
the Rancho Cucamonga Municipal Code establishing definitions and regulations
pertaining to convenience stores, and related amendments to the Development
Code and the Industrial Area Specific Plan, establishing a 1-foot candle
minimum lighting standard for commercial/industrial development.
Larry Henderson, Principal Planner, gave the staff report.
Commissioner Tolstoy requested clarification of the definition of a Convenience
Food Store.
Mr. Henderson stated that the definition was directly from the Florida Ordinance.
Chairman Barker asked if motor fuels are excluded, what the other 50 percent of
sales would be.
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Mr. Henderson stated it could be for vehicle repairs.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked whether the ordinance would apply to the Chervon
station or the Arco station (on Foothill). He realized there is a difference
between the two in the area of convenience retail sales.
Mr. Henderson stated that most likely the Arco would be included. He said the
ordinance is not intended for the very small convenience store where gas is the
main reason for the visit, but small sundr~ items may be available versus stores
where the main service is goods with occasional sales of gas.
Commissioner Lumpp also raised concern that the definition include Arco and other
similar uses. He noted that the murder at the Arco station refocused the issue.
He thought anytime a facility provides convenience goods, it is susceptible to
potential hazards related to dangerous weapons. He thought those kind of users
should be included.
Brad Buller, City Planner, noted that the definition came directly from an
ordinance that was presented by a consultant hired by the City. He stated those
convenience stores that fit this category were evaluated and the others were not
brought into the discussion. He said the percentage of sales could be changed
from 50, but other percentages had not been evaluated. He thought further
evaluation could be done to be sure that the ordinance is capturing the stores
and types of convenience outlets which may be a problem.
Chairman Barker did not want to delay action on the ordinance any more. He felt
the Commission could forward its concerns that gas stations and stores which do
not fully meet the definition as presented tonight should also be considered.
He was pleased that the matter is moving forward.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the minimum 1-foot candle lighting requirement will
apply to existing locations or only new businesses.
Mr. Henderson replied the lighting standard was put in so that new development
will meet the standard. He said it was not written to require that existing
locations be in full compliance with the lighting standards within a certain
number of days.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if it would be unreasonable to entertain such an
action.
Mr. Henderson felt it would be beyond the City's scope in terms of staff, because
it would require measuring night lighting at all commercial and industrial sites
in the City, not just convenience stores. He noted that lighting could be
reviewed at the time any discretionary permit, such as a conditional use permit
or expansion, is requested. He said the City Council had indicated they want to
be sure that all new development is at the minimum.
Commissioner Tolstoy was sorry that existing parking lots will not be addressed.
Commissioner Lumpp noted that the issue was raised because of existing facilities
and the ordinance is locked into dealing with the future and not being able to
police the existing.
Mr. Henderson stated that many of the shopping centers and businesses are adding
additional lighting because the Police Department is visiting them and discussing
ways to prevent crime.
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Commissioner Lumpp felt businesses are also increasing their lighting for
insurance purposes.
Mr. Henderson thought that patrons are more likely to visit a store where they
feel safe.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. There were no comments, and he closed
the hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy hoped that Code Enforcement will enforce the front window
sign situation. He thought that it is very dangerous not to be able to see into
stores because of the proliferation of signs.
Chairman Barker agreed that it looks tacky and is dangerous to have too many
signs.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the resolution
recommending approval of Development Code Amendment 95-01 and Industrial Area
Specific Plan Amendment 95-03. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: MCNIEL, MELtHER
BARKER, LUMPP, TOLSTOY
- carried
NORTHEAST PARK - CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA - Concept design for future park
located on the east side of East Avenue, approximately 500 feet north of
Summit Avenue.
Cindy Hackett, Associate Engineer, presented the staff report.
Bob Meuting, RJM Design Group, presented the conceptual plan to the Commission.
Mr. Meuting gave a slide show presentation of how this concept was developed by
the community through workshops and he reviewed various aspects proposed for the
site.
Chairman Barker asked for an explanation of the impact of the Trails Committee
comments, if any.
Ms. Hackett replied that the Trails Committee recommended that the major
equestrian trail connect to the future trail for Summit Avenue with access at
both the entrance to the park and the north access along the flood control dike
and it probably would connect to 24th Street.
Mr. Mueting said those accesses would be incorporated into the final exhibit.
Ms. Hackett commented that Air Quality Management District (AQMD) funding would
be used to place a looped trail through the flood control property. She stated
it had to be labeled "Trail" (not Equestrian Trail) to receive the funding.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was surprised that the Etiwanda community felt
that one baseball park would be sufficient. He noted that the other types of
fields were not used as frequently and asked if they did not play as much
baseball there as in other parts of the City.
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Mr. Meuting stated that the community felt there were enough of the other types
of fields available and stated a definite desire for "Pop Warner" football and
soccer facilities.
Ms. Hackett added that the City is paying Chaffey College $30,000 per year to
use their fields for "Pop Warner" activities and the college now has requested
that the City contribute substantial funds to renovate those fields; so the City
feels they need to find another suitable facility for these activities. She
stated that was the reasoning behind the two soccer and two football fields in
this park.
Chairman Barker asked if the park was going to be accessible to the intermediate
school and visaiversa.
Ms. Hackett stated representatives from Summit Intermediate School, who said they
were representing the Etiwanda School District, spoke at the public workshops and
said they were very opposed to any joint use between the school and the park.
Ms. Hackett said that based on that input, the City determined it would not be
able to use the school's basketball courts and track field, so those ideas were
removed from the plan. She commented further that the City Engineer received a
call recently from the Etiwanda School Superintendent stating that the views
expressed at those meetings were not the views of the School Board and that they
wanted to have a meetings with the City regarding the possible joint use of their
fields, basketball courts, and gymnasiums. She stated that the meeting has been
scheduled for August 8 and the project will be going to Council August 16.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that joint use between the schools and parks has
worked very well in the past.
Commissioner Barker commented that it has always been the philosophy of the City
to provide park access to schools for activities and to try not to place physical
barriers hindering school access.
Ms. Hackett pointed out that there is a flood wall along the park for flood
protection.
Mr. Meuting stated that the flood wall extends over approximately half of the
site, but there is still access for the school.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the football fields in the park would be taking the
place of the Chaffey College sites.
Ms. Hackett replied affirmatively.
Commissioner Lumpp asked if the biological consultant had been out to site to do
any surveys.
Ms. Hackett stated that Tierra Madre had been to the site and had given the City
a draft biological report for the entire 38 acres.
Mr. Lumpp asked what the outcome was and if the were any gnatcatchers present on
site.
Ms. Hackett stated they found no gnatcatchers, but there could be L.A. Pocket
Mice and Kangaroo Rats.
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Mr. Lumpp echoed the sentiments of the other Commissioners stating his support
for joint park use between parks and schools.
Chairman Barker stated he thought the park slide show would be an excellent
presentation for service clubs.
Commissioner Tolstoy expressed his pleasure with the process of involving the
residents in the planning process.
Brad Buller, City Planner, mentioned that the plan should include Etwianda
Specific Plan "heritage features" such as color schemes, landscaping, fencing,
etc.
Ms. Hackett commented that it was mentioned at the workshops that the residents
did not want split-rail fencing and preferred peeler-pole fences because they
considered them to be more historically correct.
Commissioner Tolstoy mentioned that peeler-pole fencing is a maintenance problem.
He stated that poles need replacement frequently, which could be very costly to
the City.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Karam Muhammad, 5333 Covina Place, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that it was his
desire to have a putting green at Northeast Park.
Chairman Barker explained that the Commission is giving their input only at this
point and it was not really their place to make those types of changes, but he
assured Mr. Muhammad's it was good to bring out that point.
Commissioner Tolstoy suggested going to the Park and Recreation Commission
meeting and expressing his view there. He thought perhaps the golfing interest
had been overlooked.
Commissioner Lumpp asked Mr. Muhammad if he was aware that there was a driving
range currently located close to the Quakes stadium.
Mr. Muhammad responded he was aware of that, but it was not close enough for him
to walk to that location. He stated he could not be present at the workshops,
so he wanted to express his views at this meeting.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
Commissioner Lumpp stated he had received a notice from SANBAG concerning a
meeting tomorrow regarding a kick-off program for the Regional Comprehensive Plan
that he felt the Chairman should be attending.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated that Associate Planner Scott Murphy and Traffic
Engineer Paul Rougeau will be present at the meeting. He said the meeting is to
address the need for community awareness regarding traffic issues in the region.
Commissioner Tolstoy expressed his disappointment in the limited number of bus
patrons, particularly considering the amount of pollution the buses create.
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Mr. Buller stated that he had been attending Omnitrans meetings and they are
trying to increase ridership.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, asked the Commission for the date they could meet
on Loveland Church.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the date for the workshop would be
August 8, 1995.
Chairman Barker stated he and staff had received a fax from Commissioner Melcher
concerning approval for projects which the City initiates. He commented that
this could be a problem, in that it is unfair to place staff members in the
position of defending their position politically.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 3-0-2 with McNiel and
Melcher absent, to adjourn.
8:55 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Secretary
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