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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
April 12, 1995
Chairman Barker called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 6:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council
Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
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COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher, Peter
Tolstoy
ABSENT: Larry McNiel
STAFF PRESENT:
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil
Engineer; Scott Murphy, Associate Planner
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There were no announcements·
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NEW BUSINESS
PRR-APPLICATION R~VIEW 95-01 - MCDON~r.D'S - The review of conceptual site
plan and elevations for a fast food restaurant within an existing
commercial/retail center in the 3egion Related Commercial designation
(Subarea 4) of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located on the south
side of Foothill Boulevard between 1-15 and Etiwanda Avenue.
APN: 229-031-35.
Rod Lucio, McDonald's Corporation, presented the application.
Scott Murphy, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. He stated the main
concerns with the project include:
1. The proposal does not comply with the Planning Commission interim drive-thru
goals and policies in the following areas:
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The minimum lot size should be 1 acre. The site proposed by the
applicant is approximately .5 acre. The lot size can, however, be
modified through the Development Review process if it is part of a
Master Plan or integrated shopping center.
The minimum floor area should be 2,500 square feet. The applicant is
proposing a 2,307 square foot facility. The floor area requirement may
be modified through the Development Review process.
The parking and drive-thru lane should be set back 45 feet from the curb
face. The application proposes a 33-foot setback for the drive-thru
lane from the curb.
The site plan should provide opportunities for landscape open space to
promote safe and convenient pedestrian movement.'
2. The drive aisles do not meet the required 24-foot width.
Parking stall dimensions shall be 9 feet x 18 feet.
A traffic congestion problem currently exists on-site. The applicant has
provided a traffic study to analyze the situation. The report recommends
several improvements to correct existing conditions:
The westerly and main entry be designed as all-way stops at their
intersection with the east-west drive aisle. Staff has concerns about
traffic backing onto Foothill Boulevard.
Widen the drive aisle at the approach to the signalized intersection.
This should be included with any future development applications.
Contact Caltrans about modifying the traffic signal timing at the main
entry.
5. A loading area should be provided for the facility.
In conclusion, Mr. Murphy stated that the site is too small for the type and
intensity of development proposed.
Commissioner Lumpp asked why the cones are located at the Price Club entry.
Mr. Murphy responded that, initially, the cones had been placed there to prevent
customers from using the area to load their cars. He said that after the
vestibule addition, the cones remained in place because of the close proximity
of the building entry to the drive aisle.
Commissioner Lumpp questioned why McDonald's would want to locate so close to
In-N-Out Burger and another McDonald's inside of Wal-Mart.
Mr. Lucio responded that McDonald's and In-N-Out cater to different clientele and
can exist in the same center. He commented that proximity to the Wal-Mart store
is not a factor because the Wal-Mart facility offers a limited menu and caters
almost exclusively to the Wal-Mart patrons.
Chairman Barker asked if the spacing of the free-standing pads along Foothill
Boulevard was discussed during the review of the center's Master Plan.
Mr. Murphy responded that the issue was not directly discussed because staff and
the Commission were comfortable with the proposed pad spacing. Had the building
spacing been reduced, Mr. Murphy felt the issue would have been raised.
Commissioner Melcher concurred with staff's conclusion that the site is of
insufficient size to accommodate the facility. He thought the level of
development is too intense for the pad size and that the design did not provide
a loading area for the facility. He further commented that the stacking lane
appears inadequate to accommodate a typical McDonald's operation and that the
facility at Haven and Highland was required to provide a stacking lane much
deeper than the one proposed. He stated that in reviewing the original master
plan, the driveway design adjacent to In-N-Oht was not ideal, but was needed to
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provide access to the southwest corner of the center. He thought the
introduction of a McDonald's would further impact the on-site circulation. He
commented that the Planning Commission approved a reduction in the setback to the
In-N-Out drive-thru lane from 45 feet to 38 feet because no cars would be
stacking along the street frontage--the lane is used for exiting the pick-up
window. He also commented that In-N-Out was able to provide adequate stacking
for their facility. Commissioner Melcher saw no justification for allowing
McDonald's to deviate from the Planning Commission drive-thru policies.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated that the site is too small to accommodate the use.
He affirmed that the center has a serious traffic problem already and the
addition of McDonald's would make the situation worse.
Commissioner Lumpp concurred that the traffic is horrendous. He thought, while
there may be opportunities to resolve some of the problems, the site is too small
and too many issues need to be addressed before he could consider McDonald's a
viable project.
Chairman Barker agreed that the addition of a McDonald's will exacerbate the
existing traffic problem. He commented that the streetscape would become
increasingly crowded, resembling a strip center. He thought the applicant was
attempting to "shoe-horn" in a project in an attempt to circumvent the agreement
between In-N-Out and the center's developer. He felt the area should remain
parking.
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PUBT.IC COMMRNTS
There were no public comments at this time.
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COMMISSION BUSINRSS
There was no additional Commission Business.
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The meeting adjourned at 6:35 p.m.
Acting Secretary
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