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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
May 25, 1994
Chairman Barker called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 6:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Rains
Room at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga, California.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher
ABSENT:
Larry McNiel, Peter Tolstoy
STAFF PRESENT:
Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal
Planner; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner; Dan James, Senior
Civil Engineer
OWNER/DEVELOPER
Gary Luque, Lewis Homes; Dave Newsome, Western
Properties; Jim Keisker, Keisker & Wiggle Architects,
Inc.; Rick Major, Lewis Homes; Elaine Carbrey, Gruen
Associates.
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PRE-APPLICATION 94-02 - WESTERN LAND PROPERTIES - A request to review the
streetscape design concepts for Church Street and the proposed development
plans for the 25-acre shopping center, located at the northeast corner of
Foothill Boulevard and Spruce Avenue - APN: 1077-421-58 and 63.
Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, presented the staff report.
Gary Luque, Lewis Homes, introduced his professional team to the
Commissioners.
Dave Newsome, Western Properties, gave an overview of the proposed project as
to the context of the project and the different types of land uses along
Church Street. He stated that the project was designed in response to a
segment of the retail market and was not designed for speculative type of
retail boxes. He said the buildings are organized to orient toward Foothill
Boulevard.
Jim Keisker, Keisker & Wiggle Architects, Inc., described the architectural
program for the project, the Church Street streetscape, and the specific
building design for Best Buy, one of the major tenants.
Brad Buller, City Planner, reminded the Commission that the purpose of the
workshop was to review the design concepts for this 25-acre parcel aS to its
relationship to Foothill Boulevard and the Terra Vista Community Plan to the
north.
Chairman Barker opened the discussion to the Commissioners.
Commissioner Melcher stated he would like to briefly comment on the history of
the Community Plan. He appreciated the fact that Gruen Associates is involved
in this proposed amendment since they are the original planning consultant
firm that designed and developed the Community Plan. However, he mentioned
that there had been battles between the City and the developer as to how best
to develop the stretch of land along Foothill Boulevard in the future. He
noted it was Gruen Associates that introduced the Foothill Boulevard Centers
Concepts and he thought this parcel had been scheduled to provide a broad,
open vista into the community. He questioned whether this concept is still
valid today. However, he believed that the proposed design has moved away
from it in a major way. With the change from office to commercial use, he
felt the view corridor is greatly reduced and the project will now have a back
side that faces Church Street. With respect to the site design, he felt that
the buildings at the western portion of the site are set back too deep and do
not relate to the buildings across Spruce Avenue in the eastern portion of the
Terra Vista Town Center. He thought that it was premature to address the
architecture.
Chairman Barker commented that he is concerned with the view and the vista
from Foothill Boulevard to the foothills and the community towards the north
as well as the residents' view into the center. He stated that he is
particularly concerned with the streetscape along Church Street where there
will be a back side of a project that faces it.
Commissioner Melcher agreed with Chairman Barker and also stated that he found
no creativity in the design of this project when compared to Terra Vista Town
Center.
Rick Major, Lewis Homes, responded that it is not feasible to build an office
project. He went on to state that the buildings were oriented toward Foothill
Boulevard because of the linear nature of the site and the required field of
parking (accessible parking spaces) for the users and the commercial uses. He
explained to the Commission that the proposed project is a strategy for
strengthening the east side of Terra Vista Town Center since it is the weakest
in the generation of sales tax. He stated that the proposed project will
complement Tetra Vista Town Center as the users are within the range of 10,000
to 25,000 square feet in size. He felt that the Commission's concerns
regarding the streetscape along Church Street could be mitigated with
architecture and landscaping but the orientation of the buildings and the
field of parking could not be changed.
Commissioner Melcher felt the proposed amendment was written to suit the
project. He said the proposed design criteria does not show or explain to the
Commission how the original intent of the objectives for the Community Plan
will be met.
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Mr. Major indicated that the pedestrian connection from Church Street to the
Center was eliminated as directed by Engineering staff which is contrary to
the recommendations from Planning staff.
Chairman Barker responded that the Commission could be a facilitator in
resolving the conflicts between the requirements from different City
Departments.
Commissioner Melcher suggested that the connection could be a visual link
instead of a pedestrian connection.
Mr. Buller suggested that the design of the commercial project carry over some
of the elements of the office park. Because it was almost time for the
regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting to start, he recommended that
the Commission take a recess and reconvene after the regular Planning
Commission meeting.
The Commission recessed at 7:00 p.m. to the Planning Commission meeting.
The Commission re-convened the adjourned meeting at 9:55 p.m.
Elaine Carbrey, Gruen Associates, explained that at the time of developing the
Community Plan, the City had a concern with the strip commercial look. She
said they addressed that concern by developing the center concepts that
consists of a series of centers along Foothill Boulevard with a few curb cuts,
deep parcels, and special character for each center. However, she stated that
with the change of the land use, together with today's retail trend of large
users, the requirements for a commercial site have to be changed as well. She
stated that they tried to keep the key elements of the original office park
concept within the design of the proposed project by providing the view
corridor, the pedestrian circulation, the trails, etc. She felt that the
language in the Design Guidelines for the site could be strengthened to ensure
these key elements are kept intact.
Commissioner Lumpp asked how the design of the concept centers is related to
Church Street.
Mr. Keisker explained the streetscape concept along Church Street.
Commissioner Melcher also asked how the streetscape along Church Street is
designed to meet the arbor and window effect called out in the Community
Plan. He pointed out that the site design does not provide for easy
pedestrian access toward the north. He still felt that the proposed plan is
significantly different because there is a loss of the wide, open view
corridor and the east/west pedestrian connection.
Commissioner Lumpp questioned the usefulness of the traffic signal at the "T"
intersection of Town Center Drive and Spruce Avenue.
Mr. Major stated that this is a pre-existing condition which has to be
designed into the project.
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Commissioner Melcher suggested that the applicant study the options of
providing a raised median along Spruce Avenue and eliminating the signal.
Chairman Barker suggested to the applicant that they revise the design to
address these concerns; that is, the pedestrian connections, the entries
design, the visual link, the breaking up of a long continuous storefront, etc.
Commissioner Lumpp felt the applicant should address the concerns of
pedestrian and visual linkages, the usefulness of the concentric ring pavement
design on the drive aisle for connecting the plazas, the back side of the
project, etc.
Mr. Major stated that they are willing to work with the Commission and staff
in addressing all the concerns.
The Commission directed the applicant to revise the graphics and the text and
submit them for their review again at a workshop on June 8, 1994.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
11:00 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned to 6:00 p.m. on June 8, 1994.
Respectfully submitted,
Brad Buller
Secretary
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