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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
February 23, 1994
Chairman Barker called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 7:03 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council
Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel,
Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT:
John Melcher
STAFF PRESENT:
Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer; Brad Buller, City
Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Nancy Fong,
Senior Planner; Rick Gomez, Community Development
Director; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City Attorney; Dan James,
Senior Civil Engineer; Betty Miller, Associate Engineer;
Diane O'Neal, Management Analyst II; Gail Sanchez,
Planning Commission Secretary
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Bullet, City Planner, announced that each Commissioner had been given a
memorandum regarding the Metrolink schedule.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-1-1 with Melcher
absent and Tolstoy abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting
of December 8, 1993.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-1-1 with Melcher
absent and Tolstoy abstaining, to adopt the minutes of January 26, 1994.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 with Melcher
absent, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of February 8, 1994.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Lumpp, carried 3-0-1-1 with Melcher
absent and McNiel abstaining, to adopt the minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of
February 9, 1994, as amended.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 with Melcher
absent, to adopt the minutes of February 9, 1994, as amended.
CONSENT CALENDAR
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MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 79-01 - UNOCAL - A request to
modify the color scheme for a gas station within the Rancho Town shopping
center, in the Community Commercial District (Subarea 2) of the Foothill
Boulevard Specific Plan, located at 9082 Foothill Boulevard -
APN: 208-101-17 through 20, 49, and 50.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, carried 4-0-1 with Melcher
absent, to adopt the Consent Calendar.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
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DRAFT SUBSEOUENT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT - GENERAL DYNAMICS - A public
hearing on a Draft Subsequent EIR for the General Dynamics Rancho
Cucamonga Subarea Specific Plan 93-01, General Plan Amendment 93-02A, and
Industrial Area Specific Plan Amendment 93-03 for the redevelopment of 380
acres of land that would include recreational, commercial, and retail
facilities surrounding an 18-hole golf course, bounded on the south by 4th
Street, on the east by Milliken Avenue, on the north by the A. T. & S. F.
(Metrolink) Railroad, and on the west by Cleveland Avenue and Utica
Street. (Continued from January 26, 1994)
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
C. SPECIFIC PLAN 93-01 - GENERAL DYNAMICS - A plan for the development of 380
acres of land that would include recreational, commercial, and retail
facilities surrounding an 18-hole golf course, bounded on the south by 4th
Street, on the east by Milliken Avenue, on the north by the A. T. & S. F.
(Metrolink) Railroad, and on the west by Cleveland Avenue and Utica
Street.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, presented the staff report. He reported that
staff had received the screen check copy of the Mitigation Monitoring Program
and it would be forwarded to the Commission prior to the final review on
April 27, 1994. Me stated that revised proposed language on master plans was
before the Commissioners. He said the applicant proposes providing a master
plan at the time the property is subdivided and once the Planning Commission
approved the master plan, subsequent reviews would be handled at staff level
by the City Planner. He said an example of such a master plan was the recent
Olive Garden Master Plan in which the Commission had approved a conceptual
site plan, general building locations, access points, circulation, and some
representation of where office and retail uses might go. He said the second
level of master plan proposed by the applicant and staff is a more detailed
master plan which would deal with specific buildings. He showed the Bixby
Ranch Business Park guidelines, which include detailed design guidelines for
architecture, theme of materials, massing, colors, landscaping, etc.
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Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Commissioner McNiel noted the proposal is a departure from what has been done
in the past in that the Planning Commission currently reviews the buildings
and the proposal would have the Commission approving a master plan. He said
he did not oppose such a plan so long as the master plan is definitive in
identifying the materials and architectural elements the Commission would
normally handle. He questioned who would be the arbitrator of disputes
between staff and the applicant regarding implementation of the master plan.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated the City Planner would make a decision which
could be appealed to the Planning Commission or the matter could be heard by
the Commission by mutual consent. He said any decisions by the Commission
would be appealable to the City Council.
Commissioner McNiel asked if the master plan would identify by example the
type of architecture, etc. which would be presented.
Mr. Bullet said the applicant was also proposing a tiered master plan review
so that a portion of a planning area could be developed prior to completing
the detailed level of that master plan. He said staff supports that
flexibility to provide the applicant a chance to market the property in the
planning areas.
Commissioner McNiel stated he appreciated what the applicant was trying to
accomplish, but he was concerned that the City not write a blank check in the
interest of flexibility.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
Jeff Kudlac, Kudlac Associates, 10900 East 4th Street, Rancho Cucamonga,
stated he and others on the planning team were available to answer
questions. He said they have had a variety of productive meetings with staff
and he was pleased with the progress.
Chairman Barker stated he had read market studies from two development groups
citing the need for additional retail. He asked if General Dynamics had
prepared such a study.
Mr. Kudlac stated they have done a lot of analysis regarding the market for
golf. He said they were trying to create some synergy and activity related to
the golf course and this would be an all new market.
Chairman Barker asked if they had done a market study on retail uses.
Mr. Kudlac replied they have done a fiscal analysis which was included in the
Specific Plan. He said they have tried to provide flexibility because they
believe they can create a market.
Chairman Barker asked if the master plan would include standards for mixing
different types of land uses.
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Mr. Kudlac said it would and noted that design details would also be part of
the master plan. He said staff had shared some master plans and discussed the
level of detail and he understood the level of detail that would be expected
by the Commission in the master plan process.
Chaiman Barker asked if professional golf tournaments were anticipated.
Mr. Kudlac replied they had not come to any conclusions in that respect. He
felt it will be a championship quality course but said they had not determined
what future activities would be occurring there.
Chairman Barker felt any tournaments or other large events could cause parking
problems.
Mr. Kudlac responded they expected to have reciprocal access easements and
parking. He felt such instances could be acco~unodated and thought it would be
addressed within the master plans for the planning areas.
Commissioner McNiel felt there is some risk because of the unique aspect of
the project as compared to typical golf courses. He noted that the proximity
of the Metrolink station could be an asset.
Mr. Bullet noted the applicant had prepared a composite of development
activity and land uses around the project.
Mr. Kudlac showed the exhibit identifying existing and proposed projects as
well as designated land uses. He said they wanted to take advantage of the
changing land uses to the south. He observed the project has great freeway
access. He felt the proposed flexibility and mixed-use concept would allow
them to respond to market changes as the changes continue to happen over the
next 10 to 15 years.
Commissioner Lumpp questioned if there was enough justification in the EIR for
the Council to make a determination regarding the overriding consideration
relating to the loss of agricultural land.
Tom Smith, Michael Brandman Associates, 2530 Red Hill Avenue, Santa Aria, felt
there is sufficient language. He felt there was adequate evidence in the
record because the finding had already been made with the certification of the
EIR for the Industrial Area Specific Plan and said they had referenced that
certification action by the City.
Commissioner Lumpp asked for clarification on a program versus a focused EIR.
Mr. Smith responded that a program EIR is intended to be comprehensive enough
to allow development to occur without the need for preparation of another
EIR. He said in that respect, this document was intended to be a program EIR
for the Specific Plan. He said individual master plans under the specific
plan would have environmental review and would be compared against the
specific plan and the evaluation in the EIR for consistency. He said their
program EIR was focused because during the initial study, certain issues were
determined not to have potential for generating environmental impacts and the
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EIR focused on the issues which were thought to have potential impacts.
said the initial study documentation was included.
He
Commissioner Lumpp questioned why the traffic analysis concentrated on the
p.m. peak. He thought the trip generation factors used for various uses
appeared to be low. He thought perhaps factors should be based on number of
parking spaces provided or number of rounds on the golf course rather than the
acreage. He also noted the factor for the theatres used the number of screens
rather than the number of seats or parking spaces. He thought the total
project trip generation factors appear low. He noted that the traffic
mitigation measures for 2010 indicate significant improvements will be
necessary to certain surrounding streets. He asked who would pay for those
improvements.
Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, stated that transportation fees are
collected with development and those fees are used to pay for improvements
throughout the City.
Mr. Smith said the consultant who had prepared the traffic analysis would
respond to staff with answers on the traffic issues. He said they used a
process which complies with the Congestion Management Plan framework
established by SANBAG. He reported they are having continuing discussions
with SANBAG and City staff to be sure they are comfortable with the
analysis. He stated they had used the standard trip generation factors
established by the Institute of Traffic Engineers based on uses throughout the
country.
Commissioner Lumpp said he was not questioning the rates in the analysis but
he was more interested in the multiplying factor being used; i.e. acreage and
screens.
Mr. Kudlac said the traffic analysis had taken a conservative approach
considering maximum build-out with 100 percent occupancy.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
asked for comments on the land use flexibility and master plan proposal.
He
Commissioner McNiel noted the Commission had once entertained the concept of a
blanket conditional use permit and it was a terrifying concept. He said he
did not want to resist progress, but he was having a hard time getting
comfortable with the concept.
Mr. Buller agreed with the applicant that there are no other similar projects
and said staff believes it deserves the flexibility in order to be successful.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked what would happen if the process did not work.
Mr. Bullet said changes can be made if the process does not work.
Chairman Barker said that if the Commission could agree on a master plan as
the checkpoint system, then the process could be streamlined. He expressed
faith the applicant had the skills to prepare a master plan which would be
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vastly superior to the Bixby Ranch one. He said he understood the concept,
but in looking at the Bixby Ranch Master Plan there were gigantic holes where
things could go wrong. He commented the master plan would have to be detailed
enough to allow the Commissioners to be comfortable with relinquishing
control.
Commissioner McNiel supported the concept; however, he noted the master plans
would be subject to interpretation. He said he wanted to be sure the master
plans are tight enough to protect staff and the City would not suffer. He
wanted to be sure all documents are carefully reviewed.
Commissioner Tolstoy concurred.
Commissioner Lumpp said he was comfortable with the process. He felt the only
thing which will be developed initially will be the golf course.
Commissioner Tolstoy said it was his understanding that a master plan would be
required for any subdivision.
Mr. Coleman confirmed that was correct.
Chairman Barker said he would like to see a master plan so clear and perfect
it can be used as a guide for the rest of California.
Commissioner Tolstoy was concerned that there is not enough staff to handle
the additional burdens of this project.
Mr. Buller said that it is not known at this time if deferring more matters to
staff will place an extra burden because staff would be relieved of some
activities necessary to forward the matters to the Commission. He said that
time saved would then be used to review the matters which had been delegated
to staff. He said it is hoped the time will balance out.
Commissioner Tolstoy observed that every year the Commission reviews the
Planning Division work program and there are many things which cannot be
accomplished because of lack of time. He was concerned that all other
activities in the City might suffer because of a new process being used for
the General Dynamics project.
Chairman Barker concurred.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no additional public comments.
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
There was no additional Commission business.
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, carried 4-0-1 with Melcher
absent, to adjourn.
8:15 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned to a meeting at 5:00 p.m. on
March 2, 1994, at the Tolstoy residence regarding Planning Commission
priorities.
Respectfully submitted,
Secretary
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