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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
February 23, 1994
Chairman Barker called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga
Planning Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council
Chamber at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho
Cucamonga, California. Chairman Barker then led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel,
Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: John Melcher
STAFF PRESENT:
Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer; Brad Bullet, City
Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Rick Gomez,
Community Development Director; Ralph Hanson, Deputy City
Attorney; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly
Luttrell, Associate Planner; Diane O'Neal, Management
Analyst II; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission Secretary
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
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ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 93-02B - MASI PARTNERS
- A request to add Recreational Commercial as a land use designation in
the General Plan and to amend the land use designation from Industrial
Park to Recreational Commercial for 27 acres of land located at the
southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue - APN: 229-
011-10, 19, 21, and 26 through 28. Related File: Conditional Use Permit
91-24.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND INDUSTRIAL AREA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT 94-02
- MASI PARTNERS - A request to modify Subarea 7 to allow limited
commercial on 27 acres of land located at the southwest corner of Foothill
Boulevard and Rochester Avenue, APN: 229-011-10, 19, 21, and 26 through
28; and modify the definition of Automotive Service Court.
Chairman Barker recessed the meeting from 5:04 p.m. to 5:11 p.m. to await the
arrival of the applicant.
Brad Buller, City Planner, presented the staff report.
Commissioner McNiel asked if there would be a reconfiguration of the proposed
auto court because of the proposed additional uses in the auto court.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if any additional square footage was being
requested for the auto court area.
Mr. Buller replied that staff had not been informed of any proposed site
changes or additional square foOtage requested.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing.
John Mannerino, Mannerino & Briguglio, 9333 Base Line Road, Suite 110, Rancho
Cucamonga, showed a layout of the entire project as it is currently
approved. Me believed the project should have been developed as a General
Commercial project. He thought the area had changed since adoption of the
General Plan and any reasons which may have existed when the plan was adopted
were no longer valid. He felt the addition of 35 percent General Commercial
with the balance being considered Recreational Commercial would work. He
commented that the requirement for conditional use permits would afford
protection to the City. He said no configuration changes were proposed for
the service station. Me stated that Mr. Masi, Bill Claire, and Mike
Scandiffio were present in the audience to answer questions.
Commissioner McNiel questioned if the additional auto related uses might cause
a change in the configuration of buildings within the auto court because of
the necessity to orient roll up doors away from the street or main driveway.
Mr. Mannerino said no such changes are anticipated at this time.
Commissioner Eumpp noted that the site plan appeared different from the plans
most recently presented to the Planning Commission, in that the larger
buildings along the southern end of the project had been broken up into
smaller buildings.
Mr. Bullet stated that the site plan presented this evening did not match the
latest application presented by the applicant.
Mr. Mannerino stated the site plan did match the last approved plan and was as
the applicant intends to build the project.
Con~issioner Lumpp said there had been a workshop with only three buildings on
the south.
Dan Coleman, Principal Planner, stated that workshop plan had represented the
applicant's plans for a skating rink, which called for combining several of
the smaller buildings.
Commissioner Lumpp asked if the application for Conditional Use Permit 93-27
had been withdrawn.
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Mike Scandiffio. 1510 Riverside Drive, Burbank, stated they had broken up the
application into several pieces for the benefit of the Planning Commission.
He said when the application for the Spaghetti Factory was presented, they
showed combining several of the smaller buildings in the back of the parcel,
but the plan had not worked out because of parking requirements.
Commissioner Tolstoy noted that the application had been before the Commission
for a long time because of all of the changes which were requested.
Mr. Mannerino acknowledged that the project had taken a long time. He felt
most of the delays and changes were because they had been trying to fit the
project onto an industrially zoned property. He said they had been trying to
zone by perspective tenant and that cannot be done. He said there is a
pending conditional use permit application which has not been withdrawn. He
observed that the plans for a skating rink had run into trouble because of
parking needs. He said discussions with staff regarding the parking are still
ongoing. He stated a number of people had expressed an interest in having a
skating/roller rink in the location, but it did not look like it will happen.
Commissioner Lumpp noted that at the last meeting he had requested an exhibit
showing the entire area and where the proposed 35 percent General Commercial
would be located.
Mr. Mannerino pointed out which buildings were anticipated to be used for the
35 percent General Commercial uses.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Lumpp supported the addition of a Recreational Commercial
designation. He felt the Sports Park is a catalyst for additional commercial
uses; however, he thought electronics, furniture, and appliances are general
retail uses rather than recreational in nature. He requested the elimination
of such uses from the definition as well as the word "discount."
Commissioner McNiel commented the project has been a long, hard struggle. He
said he had not been resistant to most of the applicant's requests even though
he has been troubled by some things including the entry statement being
used. He felt the requested uses might be acceptable. He thought the uses
being requested would still fall short of strip commercial. Me was saddened
the applicant had reverted to the plan with the smaller buildings to the south
as he thought the three larger buildings would be aesthetically stronger.
Commissioner Tolstoy stated he was excited about the Recreational Commercial
aspect of the project. He thought the Sports Complex will be complimented by
Recreational Commercial endeavors in close proximity. He said he had a
problem with the General Commercial. He felt clothing would be acceptable
because there is plenty of latitude for sports apparel; however, he did not
support the inclusion of furniture, electronics, or appliances. He thought
the applicant had requested a maximum size of 40,000 square feet for general
retail uses.
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Mr. Buller said there is currently a maximum cap of 25,000 square feet for
speciality home improvement retail uses. He said there had previously been a
proposal to raise the cap to 40,000 square feet.
Commissioner Tolstoy did not feel it would be appropriate in the area to have
a 40,000 square foot building with furniture or appliances. He supported
Recreational Commercial with limited commercial being limited to specific
sizes. He did not feel large commercial enterprises are compatible with
Recreational Commercial.
Chairman Barker asked if a size cap was proposed.
Mr. Buller said there was none proposed at this time.
Mr. Coleman said a total cap of 35 percent was proposed as the maximum for the
entire project, but there was no cap for any one tenant.
Commissioner Tolstoy observed that the study presented regarding the
feasibility for commercial uses did not address the entire City. He thought
the City already has a lot of land designated for commercial and a lot of
commercial property is empty. He feared the addition of more commercial would
add to the problem of empty stores and ghost centers.
Chairman Barker observed that when driving down Foothill Boulevard there is a
huge area of unused, open land next to the Sports Complex, which is drawing in
people. He felt the City should continue the theme of recreational uses. He
thought a skating rink or other recreational activities should be encouraged,
including Recreational Commercial uses. He feared the opportunity for
recreational uses would be lost. He did not support the sale of refrigerators
and couches. He understood Commissioner McNiel's concern about the entryway
statement. Me felt the corner is important and he thought the center should
be successful for the owner. He was frustrated because the project seemed to
have been piecemealed together. He felt the proposal represented a compromise
recognizing the fact that changes have taken place. He said the Commission
recognized that a new look should be taken at the industrial area because of
impacts of what has happened in the last 10 years. He wanted the project to
be something the City and owner would be proud of.
Commissioner Lumpp suggested changing the language to include sporting goods
and sporting apparel. He observed the proposal was to amend the General Plan
to add a Recreational Commercial use and other landowners could then request
that such a designation be permitted for their property. He did not feel
electronics, furniture, and appliances fit in a Recreational Commercial
category and he thought inclusion of those items was an effort to dilute the
intent of modifying the General Plan.
Chairman Barker asked if it was clear in the definition that.any property
designated Recreational Commercial would focus on the theme of recreation.
Mr. Bullet felt that the definition identified that the Sports Complex
generated the concept so some other major recreational center would have to be
in proximity before a Recreational Commercial use would be permitted.
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Con~nissioner Lumpp agreed there is no other place in Rancho Cucamonga that
would meet the proposed criteria~ however, he felt that amending the General
Plan still left the use as available.
Commissioner Tolstoy said Recreation Commercial is a zoning within a specific
plan located near the YMCA, but it is not a General Plan designation.
Commissioner McNiel asked for a response on the entry statement issue.
Mr. Buller observed that the Commission last dealt with the issue at a
workshop and the applicant was directed to bring back a revised plan to show
how they would address it. He said that plan had not been submitted back to
staff and no building permits can be issued until the issue is addressed.
Motion= Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to recommend issuance of a
negative declaration and adopt the resolutions recommending approval of
General Plan Amendment 93-02B with modifications to delete the listing of
electronics, furniture, and appliance uses. Motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NONE
MELCHER -carried
Chairman Barker reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Mannerino asked for clarification that the General Plan Amendment was
passed with the exception that the language regarding appliances, electronics,
and furniture were stricken from the definition.
Chairman Barker confirmed that was correct.
hearing.
He again closed the public
Commissioner Tolstoy believed the expansion of the uses in the auto service
court was a good idea. He felt the court on Archibald and 8th Street was
successful. He observed the design standards were not being changed.
Commissioner McNiel concurred.
Commissioner Lumpp felt language in the Primary Function section should be
revised by deleting the last two sentences regarding the industrial and office
development between between Haven and Milliken.
Chairman Barker questioned the reason for the verbage.
Mr. Bullet stated that staff was trying to update the existing paragraph
within the Industrial Area Specific Plan, which gives a status and direction
of the area. He felt it could easily be dropped.
Commissioner Lumpp noted the Commission was being asked to add a Special
Consideration paragraph regarding 27 acres of mixed-use commercial including
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35 percent of general retail. He noted that convenience goods and other
retail uses are already permitted and conditionally permitted within Subarea 7
and he opposed the addition of a blanket statement diluting Subarea 7 to allow
additional retail uses which perhaps would cause problems in other areas of
the community with respect to general retail uses. He said he was not trying
to hinder the development of this project, but he felt the only additional
commercial uses should be recreational in nature and general retail is not
appropriate for the area. He suggested deletion of the Special Consideration
paragraph. He thought such an action would be consistent with what the
Commission had recommended for the General Plan Amendment. He supported the
expansion of the definition of Automotive Service Court so long as the
existing layout of the project did not change.
Commissioner McNiel asked how General Commercial differs from Recreational
Commercial.
Mr. Buller stated there is not currently a listing of Recreational Commercial
uses. He said the proposed Special Considerations paragraph had merely
referred to the entire range of uses in the General Commercial land use
category. To be consistent with Commissioner Lumpp's proposal, he suggested
deletion of the language regarding Development Code land use provisions and
inserting language permitting recreation/sporting goods and apparel retail
uses in order to be consistent with the proposed General Plan Amendment.
Commissioner McNiel asked if the total retail would be 35 percent.
Commissioner Lumpp believed the 35 percent was requested for General
Commercial uses. He thought the 35 percent reference could be deleted because
General Commercial would not be an approved use and the recreation/sporting
uses could be more than 35 percent.
Chairman Barker reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Mannerino felt the proposed deletion of General Commercial would defeat
the purpose of the application. He said they had spent hours in terms of
trying to codify the problem the developer has. He thought they would not get
that many sporting goods and sporting apparel stores in the area. He
acknowledged that the recreational/sporting theme should be carried. He said
they had attempted to carry the theme through the various uses. He believed
some General Commercial would be necessary to fill the spaces. He thought
there would be recognition of the area and uses such as a women's boutique or
video store would probably not fit in. He acknowledged that it does not work
to zone by prospective tenant, but he felt there should be zoning by who would
be likely to locate in the area. He felt it would be appropriate to have
35 percent of General Commercial within the center in addition to the
Recreational Commercial. He felt there were no other properties in the City
with the same set of circumstances as the Masi property, so there was not a
danger of setting a precedent.
Chairman Barker again closed the public hearing.
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Commissioner McNiel felt the debate has gone on too long. He observed that
the property is Industrial and the City has allowed some Commercial and retail
which has continued to grow. He was not sure there is a satisfactory
solution.
Commissioner Lumpp believed convenience uses are already conditionally
permitted within Subarea 7. He thought there would be no need to have a
Recreation Commercial designation if the use is changed to have General
Commercial.
Commissioner Tolstoy reiterated that he believes there is enough General
Commercial existing and designated within the City. He felt the addition of
General Commercial to this property would further dilute the retail community.
Mr. Bullet said he believed the applicant has stated they want General
Commercial. He indicated staff had brought the matter to the Commission with
a readiness to support General Commercial with a 35 percent limitation. He
noted that the matter would go to the City Council for final action. He
suggested a revision to the Special Considerations paragraph to indicate that
recreation/sporting goods and apparel would be permitted.
Motion: Moved by Lumpp, seconded by McNiel, to recommend issuance of a
negative declaration and adopt the resolution approving Industrial Specific
Plan Amendment 94-02 with modification to modify the Primary Function
paragraph by deleting the final two sentences and the Special Consideration
paragraph to permit recreation/sporting goods and apparel retail uses. Motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, MELCHER, TOLSTOY
NONE
NONE -carried
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C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 93-29 - MASI PARTNERS - A request to permit an
indoor batting cage in 12,000 square feet in Building 16, of previously
approved Conditional Use Permit 91-24, located on 27 acres at the
southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue in the
Industrial Park District (Subarea 7) of the Industrial Area Specific
Plan. APN: 229-011-10, 19, 21, and 26 through 28. (Continued from
January 26, 1994)
D. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 93-30 - MASI PARTNERS - A request to permit a
martial arts studio in 3,000 square feet in Building 16 of previously
approved Conditional Use Permit 91-24, located on 27 acres at the
southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue in the
Industrial Park District (Subarea 7) of the Industrial Area Specific
Plan. APN: 229-011-10, 19, 21, and 26 through 28. (Continued from
January 26, 1994)
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E. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 93-31- MASI PARTNERS - A request to permit a health
club of 14,300 square feet in Building 15 of previously approved
Conditional Use Permit 91-24, in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 7)
of the Industrial Area Specific Plan, located on 27 acres at the southwest
corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue - APN: 229-011-28.
(Continued from February 9, 1994)
F. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 93-32 - MASI PARTNERS - A request to permit a
billiards parlor of 11,980 square feet in Building 14 of
previously approved Conditional Use Permit 91-24, located on 27 acres at
the southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue in the
Industrial Park District (Subarea 7) of the Industrial Area Specific
Plan. APN: 229-011-10, 19, 21, and 26 through 28. (Continued from
January 26, 1994)
Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner, presented the staff report and a slightly
revised floor plan for the billiards parlor. She stated that staff
recommended a maximum of 34 billiards tables based on parking requirements
rather than the 39 shown on the floor plan. She reported that the Police
Department had found the applications to be acceptable.
Commissioner McNiel feared that people wanting to go to the stadium will park
at the center.
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing. He asked for testimony regarding
Conditional Use Permit 93-29, the indoor batting cage.
Dave Herald, 1322 Annandale Terrace, Pasadena, stated he currently owns two
batting cage franchises, one in Pasadena and the other in Monrovia. He
remarked there are 95 locations throughout the country and the company is
approximately 30 years old.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
Chairman McNiel supported the use.
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Tolstoy, to adopt the resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 93-29. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NONE
MELCHER -carried
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing regarding Conditional Use Permit
93-30, a martial arts studio.
Mike Scandiffio. 1510 Riverside Drive, Burbank, stated the applicant could not
be present. He requested approval.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
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Motion= Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 93-30. Motion carried by the following vote=
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NONE
MELCHER -carried
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing regarding Conditional Use Permit
93-31, the health club.
Matt Snow, 1091 Hanford Court, Corona, stated he owns Hills Gym in Fontana.
He said he was proposing a multi-service health club with steam rooms.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 93-31. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NONE
MELCHER -carried
Chairman Barker opened the public hearing regarding Conditional Use Permit
93-32.
Richard Hoag, Fats Billiards, 6247 Sunrise, Citrus Heights, stated they would
comply with the parking restrictions and 34 tables would be adequate.
Commissioner McNiel asked what the additional space would then be used for.
Mr. Hoag replied that they are considering putting in a couple of snooker
tables which take up more room.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked the proposed hours.
Mr. Hoag replied they plan to be open from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. Sunday
through Thursday and 11:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Friday and Saturday.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if there is a lot of business during the late
hours.
Mr. Hoag replied that in their other locations, they do about 15 percent of
their business between 2:00 and 4:00 a.m. on weekends.
Commissioner Lumpp requested that the applicant indicate which area would be
non-alcoholic.
Mr. Hoag indicated the area on the floor plan.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman Barker closed the public hearing.
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Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by McNiel, to adopt the resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit 93-32. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
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COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
BARKER, LUMPP, MCNIEL, TOLSTOY
NONE
MELCHER -carried
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no additional public comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by McNiel, seconded by Lumpp, to adjourn.
6:42 p.m. - The Planning Commission adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Secretary
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