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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT MINUTES
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MINUTES
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
A. CALL TO ORDER
An adjourned regular meeting of the Rancho Cucamonga City Council/Fire Protection
District/Redevelopment Agency was held on Wednesday, December 3, 2008, in the Tri-Communities
Room in City Hall, located at 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California.
Mayor/Chairman/President Donald J. Kurth, M.D. called the meeting to order at 3:41 p.m.
Present were Councilmembers/Boardmembers/Agencymembers: Rex Gutierrez, Sam Spagnolo, Diane
Williams (arrived at 3:42 p.m.), Mayor Pro Tem/Vice President/Vice Chairman L. Dennis Michael; and
Mayor/President/Chairman Donald J. Kurth.
Also present were: Jack Lam, City Manager/Executive Director; Pamela Easter, Assistant City Manager;
Fabian Villenas, Principal Management Analyst/CMO; Erika Lewis-Huntley, Management Analyst II/CMO;
Kristen Compean, Intern/CMO; Joshua Torres, Intern/CMO; James Markman, City Attorney/Legal
Counsel (arrived at 4:15 p.m.); John Gillison, Deputy City Manager/Administrative Services; Michael Toy,
Information Services Specialist I; Mandi Aluzri, Deputy City Manager/Community Development; Trang
Huynh, Building & Safety Official; Kurt Keating, Code Enforcement Supervisor; Captain Joe Cusimano,
Rancho Cucamonga Police Department and Shirr'I Griffin, Deputy City Clerk.
Councilmember Gutierrez led the Pledge of Allegiance.
B: PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS
B1. Carol A. Burton, apartment resident at Del Mar I in Rancho Cucamonga, relayed concerns regarding
secondhand smoke at Del Mar I and II complexes. She submitted a detailed incident report showing
smoke entering her apartment from adjacent apartments. A local physician diagnosed her with asthma
and due to the smoke, her grandsons have respiratory problems. She expressed approval of the meeting
because it demonstrates something is being done to try to help. Responding to Mayor Kurth, Ms. Burton
stated no one is willing to do anything because there are no regulations for apartment complexes. In
order to obtain an apartment in a smoke free area of the complex, her rent would increase making it
financially difficult. She felt her health would be at risk under current living conditions. When the complex
is renovated, smoke free apartments would be set aside; due to the current economic climate, she is not
sure when that will be.
Fabian Villenas, Principal Management Analyst/CMO, submitted an emailed letter for the record from
apartment resident Steve Herrera who was not able to attend but wanted to express his concerns.
IF- C. ITEM OF DISC[JSSION
1. DISCUSSION OF PHASE II OF SMOKING REGULATIONS AND POSSIBLE
AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 8.21 OF THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA MUNICIPAL CODE
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Jack Lam, City Manager, introduced Fabian Villenas, Principal Management Analyst/CMO, who
presented the staff report.
Mr. Villenas stated the workshop would be conducted in two parts. The first part would provide
background for issues surrounding secondhand smoke, compare current City regulations with State law
and would review the experiences of other cities implementing similar ordinances. The second, interactive
part of the workshop, would record general Council interest toward extending the City's No Smoking
Policy to public areas.
Councilmember Spagnolo left at 4:04 p.m.
Mr. Villenas indicated Council directed staff to return with information for further consideration of
expanding the No Smoking Policy to public areas after adopting the ordinance in February that
designated all City facilities, including surrounding property, smoke-free environments. Departments
reported minimal resident and guest issues. A few comments were received from the Cultural Center and
Central Park where smokers complained because they were not allowed to smoke.
Mr. Villenas said other cities advised smoking regulations be tailored to the individual needs of each
community. Cities acknowledged that having stakeholder input and public outreach associated with the
development of the ordinance were essential. Once an ordinance was adopted, education was critical to
enforcement. Residents and visitors comply once they know about no smoking restrictions and self-
enforce the restriction when it is unacceptable to violate it; the City has experienced success with this
approach.
Councilmember Spagnolo returned at 4:05 p.m.
Mayor Kurth and Councilmember Gutierrez inquired about the impact on Police. Mr. Villenas responded
neither Code Enforcement nor Police reported any citations or service calls related to the smoking
ordinance.
Regarding extending the No Smoking Policy to public areas, Mr. Villenas indicated Council direction
would help frame the outreach effort dialogue with proposed stakeholders and the community. This effort
would be accomplished through workshops, public surveys accessible through the City website and
publicized in the Rancho Reporter. Specific stakeholders, such as the Chamber of Commerce,
restaurants, the apartment community, etc., would also be assessed. Results and recommendations
would be brought back to Council in summer of 2009.
Mr. Villenas said information gathered about areas where the public is traditionally exposed to
secondhand smoke was generally prompted by locations other cities enacted no smoking ordinances. He
summarized information on hotel guest rooms and common areas, outdoor dining areas, patios at
restaurants and cafes, transit stops, outdoor service lines, shopping malls and apartments units and
outdoor common areas. In response to Councilmember Spagnolo, Mr. Villenas categorized outdoor
service lines as lines to ATM machines, ticket lines and theater lines. Since public in line are captive to
the exposure of secondhand smoke, cities restricted smoking in service lines.
Mr. Villenas recommended the topic of no smoking in restaurants or hotels as a community-wide survey,
and assured Councilmember Spagnolo the survey would be tailored to accommodate apartment tenants,
owners and managers. Councilmember Spagnolo raised the question of whether a ban exists with Mayor
Kurth stating for indoor restaurants smoking is not allowed. Mr. Villenas agreed but said there is no ban
currently for patios. He stated hotels, restaurants and shopping malls have corporate policies regarding
smoking. Councilmember Gutierrez indicated businesses might see this as restricting their ability to do
business. Councilmember Williams noted smokers gather in hotel doorways and considered many new
hotels in the City would be establishing their own policy. She said now is a good time to enact policy.
Mr. Villenas focused on the Phase II Secondhand Smoke Regulations Worksheet (Attachment C) and
explained that the areas were broken down into three options. The first column (or option) is a)"Complete
Restriction"; Council may express an interest in banning smoking in the designated area. The second is
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b) "No Additional Restrictions"; Council may feel the current restriction is adequate. The third, c) called
"Somewhere `In-between"'; may reflect Council interest in limited regulation. This is not a complete
restriction, but varying regulation in one of the areas.
Staff member Villenas presented the first issue: Streets and Sidewalks. Mayor Pro Tem Michael stated
this would not restrict people from smoking in their cars while Mayor Kurth clarified, except for when a
minor is present. Mr. Villenas stated that this generally applied to pedestrians. Noting the City of
Calabasas, Mr. Villenas illustrated somewhere in-between prohibits smoking unless no non-smoker is
within 20 feet and it is reasonable to assume no non-smoker will appear. Councilmember Spagnolo
wanted to know how the somewhere in-between option would be enforced. Mayor Kurth said it would be
self-enforced but pointed out what happens in a crowded area. Councilmember Spagnolo noted City
Employees now have to go out to the sidewalk to smoke. Mayor Kurth thought there might be passive
encouragement for people to quit smoking and they would take advantage of City programs to help stop
smoking.
Councilmember Williams proposed the City conduct forums with shopping center owners to get feedback
on smoking regulation and obtain their enforcement preferences. In response to Mayor Pro Tem Michael,
Mr. Villenas confirmed that the public right-of-way in Terra Vista is privately owned and recommended the
outreach include everyone because of the potential to impact property owners. Mayor Kurth offered a
graduated method for bringing about non-smoking compliance. For instance he said, with apartments or
hotels, by a certain time 25% will be non-smoking, by this year 50%, and by this year 100%. Mayor Pro
Tem Michael stated the objective is to try to reduce the impact of secondhand smoke on those who chose
not to smoke. He suggested somewhere in-between gives smokers an understanding that we are serous
and are concerned about a healthy community. Councilmember Gutierrez said he agreed with
somewhere in-between for public right-of way, but would not approve anything until businesses were
notified and could give Council their input.
Staff member Villenas presented the second issue, twofold in organization: Smoking Restrictions in
Hotels. He addressed the subject of Hotel Guest Rooms first and indicated in response to
Councilmember Spagnolo that hotels currently abide by State law and corporate policy. Councilmember
Williams noted hotels might designate less smoking rooms due to customer demands for more non-
smoking rooms. She urged contacting hotels in the City to determine the existing percentage of rooms.
Mayor Kurth said the State regards the situation differently since it benefits from cigarette taxes. He noted
how hard and expensive it is for hotels to change a smoking room back. He sensed such laws strengthen
businesses by accepting the burden of responsibility and regulating the number of required non-smoking
rooms. Mayor Pro Tem Michael cautioned being too restrictive; if there are too few smoking rooms,
smokers might smoke in a non-smoking room anyway.
Noting Councilmember Williams' earlier comments, staff member Villenas continued to the second part of
Smoking Restrictions in Hotels, Hotel Common Areas, which primarily deals with outdoor common areas.
Councilmember Williams supported designating smoking areas and gave suggestions. Council discussed
points regarding outdoor common areas expressing their interest in designated smoking areas.
Councilmember Williams left at 4:33 p.m.
Staff member Villenas presented the third issue, Outdoor Dining Areas;patios at restaurants and cafes.
Councilmember Spagnolo indicated interest in how business is doing in these areas. He felt restaurants
might want no smoking indoor and outdoor. He favored a complete smoking ban for outdoor dining and
patio areas.
Councilmember Williams returned at 4:34 p.m.
Mr. Villenas said other cities agreed this issue has been the most controversial. Restaurants generally
come out and are vocal in opposition. Councilmember Spagnolo acknowledged it would be controversial,
but noted the potential concerns of non-smoking diners. Mr. Villenas reiterated that Council interest would
direct the type of conversation portrayed when contacting restaurant owner/operators to get their input
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through the outreach surveys. Council discussed the perspective of restaurant businesses deciding
tentatively on somewhere in-between.
Mayor Pro Tem Michael considered screening, awnings and temporary coverings in outdoor patio areas.
Mandi Aluzri, Deputy City Manager/Community Development said that there is ongoing discussion about
outdoor patio areas that are enclosed during inclement weather conditions. Most cities' approach is that
an outdoor patio area be a substantial structure in order to implement no smoking restrictions. A plastic
cover or awning is still considered outdoor at this point. Mayor Pro Tem Michael said King's Fish House at
Victoria Gardens has a permanent roof over the patio area. Mr. Aluzri's response was that smoking is
permitted there.
Staff member Villenas presented the fourth issue, Transit Stops. Mr. Villenas prefaced the topic by saying
that some cities are considering prohibiting smoking at bus stops and train stations because waiting
public at these locations is captive to secondhand smoke. Mayor Pro Tem Michael suggested somewhere
in-between, restricted to within 20 feet of the transit stop the same as it is for streets and sidewalks.
Mayor Kurth confirmed smoking is prohibited inside buses and trains noting that there are no smoking
restrictions at the MetroLink station. Council discussed the somewhere in-between option and if 20 feet
would be sufficient. Mr. Villenas said most cities require 20 feet.
Staff member Villenas presented the fifth issue, (Outdoor) Service Lines. Councilmember Williams and
Councilmember Spagnolo considered whether the AMC theater at Victoria Gardens is on public or private
property. Mr. Alzuri said the current ordinance covering the Victoria Gardens Cultural Center theater,
does not allow smoking. Council discussed a complete smoking ban. Councilmember Spagnolo thought
talking to mall owners would be important in considering a complete smoking ban.
Staff member Villenas presented the sixth issue, Shopping Malls. Councilmember Williams asked if there
is State law on enclosed malls. Mayor Pro Tem Michael asked what determines the difference in a mall
and the Terra Vista shopping center. Mr. Villenas responded State law prohibits smoking in (private)
closed malls. Other cities have done a complete smoking ban, did not address it or did somewhere in-
between designating smoking areas. For example, for every forty-thousand square feet of mall, there is a
designated smoking area; that area must be away from the walkways. Councilmember Spagnolo clarified
that malls are like outdoor shopping centers. He suggested somewhere in-between.
Staff member Villenas presented the seventh issue, Multi-Family Units and Common Areas. Mayor Pro
Tem Michael and Councilmember Williams suggested designating smoking units by a percentage and
working with the apartment community to determine what that percentage might be. Mr. Villenas
mentioned that some cities decided non-smoking and smoking units not share walls or a ventilation
system. Councilmember Gutierrez suggested the somewhere in-between option and recommended a
certification program regarding Healthy Cities (Healthy Rancho Cucamonga). He felt certification would
provide an incentive for the apartment community improving their image as a certified life-style
community. Mayor Kurth noted certified smoke-free communities would raise the City of Rancho
Cucamonga's image as a Healthy City. Jack Lam, City Manager advised proper separation of non-
smoking and smoking units. Regarding multi-family common areas, Mayor Pro Tem Michael suggested
this option was similar to hotels outdoor areas and that City regulation should be consistent.
Councilmember Spagnolo suggested exploring this issue as it regards condominiums. Mayor Kurth asked
whether other cities have considered banning the sale of cigarettes (smoking products) at locations where
medications are sold. James Markman, City Attorney/Legal Counsel said it was a question of interstate
commerce. Mayor Kurth requested further information on the topic.
In closing, Mr. Villenas said Council may direct staff to move forward with the recommended draft
strategy. Results and recommendations would be brought back for Council consideration in summer of
2009.
MOTION: Moved by Kurth, seconded by Williams to approve the proposed strategy recommended by
staff. Motion carried unanimously.
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ACTION: Report received and filed.
*A completed Phase HSecondhand Smoke Regulations Worksheet(Attachment Q is attached for reference.
Mayor Pro Tem Michael remarked on the dangers of secondhand smoke on youth in the community. He
stressed maintaining 'Healthy Rancho Cucamonga' by sustaining a green community and by providing
opportunities for residents who chose a healthier life-style.
Councilmember Williams recommended the outreach efforts inform business owner/operators of
information about City programs which they could forward to community members who want healthier life-
styles. She said information, access and affordability to these programs is important, and said the City
needs to continue an active presence through its publications, such as the GrapeVine, and in Community
centers. She encouraged staff to identify non-profit organizations to help fund healthy life-style services
and programs.
Jack Lam, City Manager, said services are available through the City to anyone who wants help. He said
the City could add more programs.
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IF--
D ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 5:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Shirr'I Griffin
Deputy City Clerk
Approved: October 7, 2009
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Phase II Secondhand Smoke Regulations Worksheet
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This worksheet is provided to assist you in evaluating the scope
of regulations desired for each item listed below.
RANCHO Complete No Additional Somewhere
UcIOcA
Restriction Restrictions "In-between"
Streets and X
Sidewalks
Hotels-Guest X
Rooms
Hotels-Common X
Areas
w/designated smoking areas
Outdoor Dining X
Areas
Transit Stops X
Service Lines X
Shopping Malls X
w/designated smoking areas
Multi-Family X
Units
Multi-Family X
Common Areas
Attachment C
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