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CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
Adiourned Meetinq
A. CAT.T. TO ORDER
An adjourned meeting of the City Council of the City of Rancho Cucamonga met
Thursday, January 31, 1991 in the Council Chambers of the Civic Center, located
at 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. The meeting was
called to order at 7:02 p.m. by Mayor Dennis L. Stout.
Present were Councilmembers: William J. Alexander (arrived 7:43 p.m.), Charles
J. Buquet II, Diane Williams, Pamela J. Wright, and Mayor Dennis L. Stout.
Also present were: Jack Lam, City Manager; Linda D. Daniels, Deputy City
Manager; Jerry B. Fulwood, Deputy City Manager; Rick Gomez, Community Development
Director; Olen Jones, Sr. RDA Analyst; Brad Buller, City Planner; Larry
Henderson, Principal Planner; Alan Warren, Associate Planner; Vince Bertoni,
Assistant Planner; Capt. Bruce Zeiner, Rancho Cucamonga Police Department; and
Debra J. Adams, City Clerk.
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B. ITEM OF DISCUSSION
B1. DISCUSSION OF MULTIPLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT - The purpose of this meeting is
to discuss multi-family development in general throughout the City. There will
be no discussion regarding specific projects. (0203-04 HOUSING)
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff would be walking the City Council through
some of the questions they had from the previous multi-family development
workshop. He added there is a Resolution in the agenda packet for the City
Council to consider which could be brought back at a future Council meeting for
approval if the Council concurred.
Alan Warren, Associate Planner, presented a detailed staff report from the
information submitted in the packet.
Councilmember Buquet asked if there really were over 8,000 multi-family dwelling
units as indicated in the staff report because he felt the total would be less.
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Alan Warren, Associate Planner, stated this figure was General City, not the
entire City, and explained how staff goes about determining this figure by means
of business license records and sending personnel out in the field to determine
this.
Mayor Stout stated he felt there were less units also.
Sharon Boydston, 7066 Del Mar Court, stated she agreed that this figure
was accurate.
Councilmember Wright stated she felt there were some multi-family units missing
from the map.
Mayor Stout opened the meeting for public input. Addressing the City Council
were:
Sharon Boydston, 7066 Del Mar Court, stated she felt the City was not
heading in the right direction. She felt there were more multi-family
dwelling units than what the City had planned on having. She stated it
was her opinion that a strain was being placed on the schools by having so
many multi-family dwelling units. She added she has not heard one
resident state they wanted more apartment buildings.
Councilmember Alexander arrived at 7:43 p.m.
Ms. Boydston felt measures should be approved to reduce multi-family
development, and added she felt growth was good but not high density.
She stated the City should take into consideration what was fair to all
residents.
Mike Dubbs, 6869 Rovato Place, Victoria Planned Community, stated he felt
law enforcement should study the undesirable types of crime and
investigate where it comes from.
Councilmember Buquet felt crime statistics should be broken down into single-
family versus multi-family.
Mr. Dubbs asked if density per square mile had been looked at. He felt
the over crowding caused higher crime and traffic problems. He added he
did not see a difference in architecture from multi-family and single-
family.
Bob Dutton, 9617 Carrari, stated he is an advocate of controlled growth.
He felt the City Council should consider an Ordinance such as the one
Colorado has whereby there were severe fines on landlords who knowingly
allowed drug activity and other illegal acts to exist in their buildings.
He asked when the City was originally planned out, was it based on a
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certain density and develoA~nent taking place, and then fees that come in
from that develoA~nent would pay the cost of all the various improvements
and so forth. He asked how much would it increase ho~e construction if
densities are lowered.
Jerry Fulwood, Deputy City Manager, stated with more units, you wouldbe able to
spread the cost over all those properties. He stated if you have more open
space, the same maintenance cost would have to be spread over fewer units, making
the assessment higher.
Bernie Savalstead, 1811 Westcliff, Newport Beach, stated he was a former
City Councilmember from Fountain Valley, and that it sounded to him like
the Council was considering down zoning the entire City with a few
exceptions, and asked if in the end would the City Council get into a
planning process that would look into certain properties that are more
tuned into multi-family, rather than single-family residential. He added
if the Council comes up with a certain percentage to get to a compromise
or end result, would they take this property by property, or would they
just do various designated areas.
Mayor Stout stated the City Council has not decided on a policy yet, but that
once they did, they would be giving direction to the Planning Con~nission.
Mayor Stout invited the public to give their comments as the Council was
discussing this item.
Mayor Stout stated that he recently went on a field tour and felt the quality of
construction was not the best in certain areas. He felt future multi-family
development units should be built of quality construction and that maintenance
of these units should be considered also. He stated he has had problems with the
Etiwanda Specific Plan from the beginning. He felt this should be looked at as
a starting point and re-do the densities in order to make it a rural country
atmosphere as it was originally designed. He stated with respect to the Victoria
area, he felt there was very little multi-family included in this project north
of Base Line. He stated there happens to be some areas in the middle area of
this project near the Edison Corridors where there is medium-high, low-medium,
medium and so forth that should be looked at because they are sandwiched between
single-family residential between the Vineyards and the Windrows, which is what
the plan currently shows. He added he is a lot more flexible with the area
surrounding the lake area. He stated he did not know what to do with the Tetra
Vista area, and felt it was a poor decision in the first place to enter into this
agreement. He stated the General City side should be looked at as far as
maintenance of those units. He felt the people that are in the condominiumunits
are people who have more of a tie to the community and that there are not as many
problems in this type of units. He advised of some apartments that are trying
to convert to condominiums and felt it was good to require some of the projects
to have condominium standards.
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Councilmember Alexander stated when he went on the multi-family field tour this
week with Councilmember Willjams and staff that it was mentioned staff would work
on getting some maintenance type agreements for multi-family dwelling units. He
did not think the City should come down on multi-family units as a whole as long
as the quality was there.
Mayor Stout stated he felt there was too much flexibility in density. He felt
better quality and design was needed as well.
Councilmember Buquet stated he had also been on the field tour last weekend and
thought the tour was interesting. He commented on the variable densities he saw
while on the tour. He added high standards in design were needed and also
maintenance of multi-family dwelling units. He stated there were some multi-
family projects that he would not go into after dark. He felt compatibility
should be exercised for multi-family and single-family units. He suggested
regulations on the number of units built should be considered, especially for
multi-family units. He suggested service charges be placed on those individuals
where a police call is placed because people can't get along. He also agreed
with Mayor Stout about maintenance of units. He also stated he would like to see
compact parking spaces eliminated starting with the multi-family units.
Councilmember Wright told the history of how density was determined as the City
began. She stated she felt the City has responsibly tried to place the multi-
family units in the right place as it progressed. She stated that the City then
got involved with planned communities, but that it was not working out as the
City had planned. She felt quality should be higher. She felt condo-type
projects were more appealing to her and the residents of the City. She felt the
crowding of apartments in Victoria should be reconsidered, and also felt the
Etiwanda Specific Plan should be looked at. She added she did not necessarily
feel high rents would make a project nicer either. She felt people should be
aware of assessment impacts regarding this matter.
Councilmember Willjams stated she agreed with Councilmember Alexander about there
needing to be a code of management for multi-family units. She stated apartments
are on all major streets. She felt there needed to be different architecture for
these units in order to make them more appealing. She felt the City needed to
pay more attention to what is being built, but not necessarily have a moratorium.
She concluded by stating her major concern was a transition in the buffers and
the planning. She did not think the actual density was the issue because she
felt that parcel by parcel that could be settled.
Councilmember Buquet stated that on some of the multi-family projects the
landlord will take anyone as a tenant Just to occupy a unit, and suggested that
there be conditions to do a phased construction and occupancy process so there
is an easing into total occupancy. He also stated he felt management companies
would assist in this area.
Councilmember Wright felt density per square mile should also be looked at
because it would affect the quality of life. She did not feel a lot of high
density units should be placed in one area because this would affect the quality
of life.
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Mayor Stout stated what he is hearing from the Council is that quality of
construction and maintenance of a develo~nent are very important. He stated he
liked Councilmember Buquet's co~unents on phasing the number of units robebuilt
and also phasing of occupancy. He felt density ranges should be looked at as it
relates to the type of product being produced. He felt an aggressive City
Housing Authority should also be considered. He felt the Planning Commission
should examine the areas that are planned for multi-family development, but not
yet built.
Councilmember Buquet stated he felt the multi-family development in Terra Vista
should be of the highest quality.
Councilmember Wright asked what the City can do to control the multi-family units
in Tetra Vista for better quality and higher standards.
Councilmember Buquet felt any approvals for multi-family units should be made to
meet the same criteria as other projects in the City.
Councilmember Alexander stated he did not feel it was right for the schools to
have no say in how many units are built, because he felt they needed to make sure
they could accommodate all the children.
Councilmember Buquet felt the incentive plans and density bonuses should be
looked at also. He felt more consistent ranges should also be looked at. He
stated he would like to see the maximum build-out of the City lowered.
Councilmember Wright stated she felt the quality of life could be improved by
lowering the density now. She felt density should be lowered and established at
75% single-family dwellings/25% multi-family dwellings.
Brad Bullet, City Planner, stated the Resolution in the agenda packet leans
toward 75% single-family dwellings/25% multi-family dwellings.
Councilmember Buquet stated he would like to see the City get as close to
single-family dwellings/25% multi-family dwellings as possible and to work
towards this.
Brad Buller, City Planner, offered for staff to look at those areas that the
Council has highlighted such as Victoria, between the Edison corridors, or the
area in Etiwanda, to take those numbers in order to form a short term goal. From
there they could develop a program on how this can be addressed, bring this back
to the City Council through the Planning Co~nission, and evaluate it again after
possibly 12-18 months.
Mayor Stout felt this needed to be solved within six months and have a policy in
place at that time.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated he did not mean for this to take 18 months
before the Council saw it again, but in that time the program would be in place
and then the Council would have some idea if the program was working.
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Councilmember Wright felt a statement should be agreed upon as to what the
density is and for the City to stick to this.
Brad Buller, City Planner, stated staff could bring back the information on what
the Council has asked them to focus on, and bring back those numbers with a
percentage to the Council at the February 20, 1991 meeting for their
consideration.
Mayor Stout asked staff to look at any other areas they felt were also important.
Shirley Houston, of Apartment Owner's Association, con~nended the Council
on what they were doing at this meeting. She felt it would be better to
get people to take pride in their projects on a volunteer basis instead of
setting regulations by Ordinance or whatever. She felt the owners of
multi-family units should be contacted to discuss this program with them,
as she knew this was working in the cities of La Habra and Montclair. She
asked that the City Council consider her suggestion. She also added you
could not deny someone rental of a unit if they make enough money and have
good credit.
Councilmember Buquet agreed that the volunteer approach was a good idea, but that
some type of code enforcement would also probably be needed.
C. COMMUNICATION FROM THE PUBLIC
No communication was made from the public.
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D. ADJOURNMENT
MOTIONs Moved by Wright, seconded by Alexander to adjourn.
unanimously, 5-0. The meeting adjourned at 9~05 p.m.
Motion carried
Respectfully submitted,
Debra J. Adams, CMC
City Clerk
Approved: February 20, 1991
January 26, 1991
CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION
Adiourned Field Tour
An adjourned meeting of the City Council and Planning Commission was scheduled
for the purpose of visiting the following multi-family residential developments:
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Mountain Vista, 10300 and 10400 Arrow Route
Monterey Village, 13203 Arrow Route
Meadowbrook Village, northeast corner of Arrow and Hermosa
Terrace Apartments, 8383 Fir Drive
Rancho Villas, 8033 Romona Avenue
Heritage Park, 9601 Lomita Court
Sycamore Springs, 7127 Archibald Avenue
Loma Vista, 9600 19th Street
Rudolph Hendrickson, 6628 Amethyst Avenue
Woodhaven, 6230 Haven Avenue
Lynnhaven, 10655 Lemon Avenue
Hunters Chase, 10757 Lemon Avenue
Steeple Chase, 10801 Lemon Avenue
Moncieto Apartments, southeast corner of Mountain View and Milliken
Avenue
Del Mar Apartments, 7903 Elm Avenue
The tour began at 9:00 a.m. at the main entrance of the Rancho Cucamonga Civic
Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California.
Present were Councilmember Charles J. Buquet II and Mayor Dennis L. Stout.
Absent were Councilmembers: William J. Alexander, Diane Williams and Pamela J.
Wright
Present were Commissioners: Larry McNiel, John Melcher and Wendy Vallette
Absent were Commissioners: Suzanne Chitiea and Peter Tolstoy
Staff present: Jerry B. Fulwood, Deputy City Manager; Brad Buller, City Planner;
and Alan Warren, Associate Planner.
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The field tour concluded at 12:00 Noon at the Civic Center's main entrance.
City Clerk
Approved: February 20, 1991