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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2001/07/10 - Special Meeting Minutes - PC-HPC July 10, 2001 CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA JOINT CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Special/Adioumed Meeting A. CALL TO ORDER A special/adjourned meeting of the Rancho Cucamonga City Council and Planning Commission was held on Tuesday, July 10, 2001 in the Tri Communities Room of the Civic Center located at 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga,California. The meeting convened at 7:05 p.m. Present were Councilmembers: Bob Dutton (arrived at 7:20 p.m.), Diane Williams and Mayor William J. Alexander. Present were Planning Commissioners: Rich Macias, John Mannerino, Pamela Stewart, Peter Tolstoy and Chairman Larry McNiel. Also present were: Pamela Easter, Deputy City Manager; Linda Daniels, Redevelopment Agency Director,Jan Reynolds, RDA Analyst;Joe O'Neil, City Engineer; Shintu Bose, Deputy City Engineer, Brad Buller, City Planner, Brent LeCount, Associate Planner; Deborah Clark, Library Director; Chief Dennis Michael, Rancho Cucamonga Fire Protection District; James C. Frost, City Treasurer; and Debra J. Adams, City Clerk. Absent were: Councilmembers Paul Biane and Grace Curatalo B. ITEM OF DISCUSSION B1. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF DRAFT MASTER PLAN FOR VICTORIA GARDENS REGIONAL CENTER DEVELOPMENT — The detailed review of a master plan for a 2.3 million square foot open air mixed use mall development including retail, office, specialty commercial, restaurant, civic, and entertainment uses as well as approximately 600 multi-family dwelling units on 175 acres of land located within the limits of the Victoria Community Plan, generally bounded by the future Church Street to the north, the 1-15 Freeway to the east, Day Creek Boulevard to the west and Foothill boulevard to the south —APN: 227-161-35, 35, and 38; 227-171-22 and 23; 227-201-30, 33, 35, and 36; 227-211-24, 39, and 40 to 43. Related Files: Victoria Community Plan Amendment 01-01 and General Plan Amendment 01-22. • Linda Daniels, Redevelopment Agency Director; stated tonight the developer for the regional center wanted to give a presentation on the latest plan for this project. She stated the design review process would start in September. She stated they want to allow for the Council and Commission to give input, advice and guidance on the proposed plan. She introduced the President of Forest City Development, Brian Jones. Brian Jones, Forest City Development, stated they have looked all over the United States for ideas for the regional mall. He stated this mall would be the largest in the western United States. He talked about what would make this center special so that it would attract businesses to it. He stated after being at the ICSC conference, he feels they will get the tenants they want. He stated they hope to start construction in 2003 and open in 2004. City Council/Planning Commission Minutes July 10, 2001 Page 2 Frank Fuller, Field, Paoli Architects, talked about the design of the regional center. He stated they are trying to make it unique to Rancho Cucamonga. He continued to present the model of the mall. He also referred to the proposed mall master plan which was distributed to the Council and Commission and is on file in the City Clerk's office. He also referred to large drawings that were on display. Councilmember Dutton arrived at 7:20 p.m. The City Council was officially called to order at this time. David Bergston of SWA gave a power point presentation. He talked about the landscaping design proposed for the project. He commented on the water elements as well. Frank Fuller continued to talk about the plan. He talked about the landmarks through the regional center and what they would do for the project. He stated all of the elements that have been talked about are in the draft master plan that the Council and Planning Commission have been given. A recess was taken at 7:45 p.m. for the Council only to convene on another item (see special meeting agenda of 7/10/01). The City Council and Planning Commission reconvened at 7:48 p.m. Brian Jones referred to the housing element and stated it is a very important part of the proposed center. He stated Forest City will manage the center to make sure it is a safe place. He felt this center would be a regional draw. Councilmember Dutton asked what the timeframe is. Brian Jones stated they would break ground in 2003 and open in 2004. Mayor Alexander asked how the water element would work in the plan. Brian Jones stated the water would be put in various strategic.locations. Commissioner Tolstoy asked about the phasing for the project. Brian Jones stated the first phase would include 800,000 square feet. He stated the second phase would start within approximately three years. Councilmember Dutton asked what would be included in the first phase. Brian Jones stated there would be 3 department stores consisting of 400,000 square feet and then there would be another 400,000 square feet of other retail stores including landscaping. Commissioner Tolstoy asked if the residential part would start right away. Randall Lewis, Lewis Retail, stated it would start as quickly as the mall started. Linda Daniels, Redevelopment Agency Director, stated American Beauty wants to start their residential before the end of this year. Mayor Alexander asked about the possibility of a hotel. Brian Jones stated right now there are no definite plans, but that there is definitely some interest out there. City Council/Planning Commission.Minutes July 10, 2001 Page 3 Commissioner McNiel asked if they have done an outdoor mall like this before. Brian Jones stated not like this particular one that is as large as this. He stated they have built outdoor malls about 25 years ago, but this is a breakthrough as far as its size. Frank Fuller talked about other outdoor malls and how successful they have been. Commissioner McNiel asked where they are in their calculations for parking. Brian Jones stated there are 4,500 stalls for 1.2 million square feet. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested they need to rethink their plan on compact parking spaces. Councilmember Williams stated she thinks everyone wants to be reassured that there are movie screens in the center. Brian Jones stated they have a mutual interest and felt they are very important to the center. Councilmember Williams wants people to feel safe in their own community through being at the center. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it should be a place where people can come and do other things other than just shop. He felt it should be a place where they can eat and gather as a family. He asked when the complete build-out would be. Colm Macken stated about 5 years. Commissioner Tolstoy wanted to make sure a variety of materials would be used on the exteriors of the buildings. He talked about Rodeo Drive II and how wonderful that is. David Bergston stated he felt there was already some of this planned for the regional center. Sandra Quilty asked if there would be on-street parking allowed. Frank Fuller stated yes. Sandra Quilty felt covered parking would be very important. She asked about public works, police and other emergency services for the center. Brian Jones stated all of the tenants pay to maintain the landscaping, streets, etc. Victor Grgas stated the City will have their own security as well as the mall security. Jim Pugh, City View, asked who would control all of the events that would take place at the regional center. Brian Jones stated they would bring people in for the events and that all of the streets within the center are private. Commissioner Tolstoy talked about New Orleans and a parade he saw that was so great. Brian Jones stated he wishes they could have an event every week. Gino Filippi stated he is grateful to have been a part of the plan for the center and asked to have the City's heritage included in the plan, i.e. grape vineyards. City Council/Planning Commission Minutes July 10, 2001 Page 4 Jim Frost asked what they are doing to keep everyone's views from being blocked. Frank Fuller felt that views would not be blocked. Adam Eventov, Press Enterprise, asked what they were doing for the Mom and Pop storeowners. Brian Jones stated they have talked about creating a pavilion where they would put in incubator retail for new businesses. He stated this is a program they would like to start here. C. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC No communication was made from the public. • D. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ra J.Ad s, CMC City Clerk Approved by Planning Commission: September 12, 2001 Approved by City Council: September 19,2001