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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
October 11, 2000
Chairman McNiel called the Regular Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning
Commission to order at 7:06 p.m. The meeting was held in the Council Chamber at Rancho
Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, Califomia.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Rich Macias, John Mannerino, Larry McNiel, Pam Stewart,
Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Shonda Bello, Planning Aide; Brad Buller, City Planner, Dan Coleman,
Principal Planner, Kirt Coury, Associate Planner, Kevin Ennis,Assistant City
Attorney; Nancy Fong, Senior Planner, Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer,
Brent Le Count, Associate Planner; Gail Sanchez, Planning Commission
Secretary; Alan Warren, Associate Planner
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Brad Buller, City Planner, announced that staff received a call earlier in the day from the applicant for
Items D and E, indicating that he could not attend tonight's meeting and planned to withdraw the
application. He stated staff would like a continuance to allow time for the applicant to submit his
withdrawal request in writing.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Moved by Stewart, seconded by Macias, carried 3-0-2 (Mannerino, Tolstoy abstain), to
approve the minutes of September 13, 2000.
Motion: Moved by Macias, seconded by Mannerino, carried 5-0, to approve the minutes of
September 27, 2000.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. VACATION OF VEHICULAR ACCESS RIGHTS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ARROW
HIGHWAY AND MILLIKEN AVENUE FOR NEW DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS — V-170 — Parcel
Nos. 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 19, and 20 of Parcel Map No. 11891. Related File: Development
Review 99-55.
Motion: Moved by Tolstoy, seconded by Stewart, carried 5-0, to adopt the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 97-23 — LAKEES (TWINS SPORTS BAR
AND GRILL) —A request to increase hours of operation for a previously permitted restaurant
with sports bar/grill including entertainment, dancing, amusement devices (pool tables, dart
boards) and on site consumption of alcoholic beverages, within an existing 7,930 square foot
building in the Community Commercial designation (Subarea 3) of the Foothill Boulevard
Specific Plan, located at 10134 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 1077-601-07. Related
file: Entertainment Permit 00-02. (Continued from September 13, 2000)
C. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 00-02—LAKEES(TWINS SPORTS BAR AND GRILL)—A request
to increase hours of operation for entertainment including, but not limited to, D. J. music,
dancing, satellite television, and amusement devises (pool tables, dart boards), in conjunction
with a bar and restaurant in the Community Commercial designation(Subarea 3)of the Foothill
Boulevard Specific Plan, located at 10134 Foothill Boulevard - APN: 1077-601-07. Related
file: Conditional Use Permit 97-23. (Continued from September 13, 2000)
Commissioner Mannerino recused himself because he legally represents the owner on another
matter.
Brent Le Count, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. He indicated the applicant had
worked diligently to clear up the issues discussed at the previous meeting.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked why there was a chain link fence on the east property line.
Mr. Le Count indicated that when the Planning Commission approved the project, it permitted a
chain link fence in areas that would not be visible to the street.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked for clarification that the chain link fence is from the end of the building
going north while wrought iron is to the south of the building.
Mr. Le Count confirmed that was correct.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Robert Lakees, 111655 Sienna Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, believed they had addressed all of the
issues raised at the previous meeting. He said they fixed the trash enclosure door, planted shrubs
and bushes, spread mulch, fixed the irrigation system, and re-aimed the lighting fixture.
Commissioner Stewart asked if he was willing to share information regarding the Alcoholic Beverage
Control matter referenced in the staff report.
Mr. Lakees replied they had a million dollar promotion in conjunction with the Quakes baseball team.
He indicated they distributed tickets at the bar and a name was selected during the 7th inning stretch
for an opportunity to win$1 million. He stated that three weeks into the promotion, he was contacted
by the Alcoholic Beverage Control people and told it was considered a form of gambling and
therefore illegal. He said he immediately contacted the Quakes and dropped out of the promotion.
Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tolstoy indicated he had no problem with extending the hours. He reported that while
visiting the site, he noticed a lot of papers strewn around the market and watched as gusts of wind
carried the papers across the parking lot to the Twins Sports Bar and Grill. He thought it would be
good to have some type of containment around the market. He asked if there is enough light in the
parking lot for safety purposes.
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Mr. Lakees replied he has the electrical plans and they have the proper foot candles according to
what was approved. He indicated they want to enhance the lighting on the building and said it would
not shine toward the east. He reported they have addressed the paper litter problem by having their
janitorial service clean anything along the fence to the east.
Commissioner Tolstoy expressed appreciation and said the business is a nice one.
Commissioner Stewart felt the applicant had made a good faith effort to address the issues.
Motion: Moved by Stewart, seconded by Tolstoy,to adopt the resolutions approving Modification to
Conditional Use Permit 97-23 and Entertainment Permit 00-02. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: MANNERINO - carried
D. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 97-38 MODIFICATION—CLUB MATRIXX—A request to expand
the hours of operation for a nightclub and restaurant within the Thomas Winery Plaza, in the
Specialty Commercial District of the Foothill Boulevard Specific Plan, located at 8916 Foothill
Boulevard —APN: 208-101-23. (Continued from September 27, 2000)
E. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 97-04 MODIFICATION — CLUB MATRIXX—A request to modify
conditions of approval regarding hours of operation, entertainment uses,and ages of patrons for
a nightclub and restaurant within the Thomas Winery Plaza, located at 8916 Foothill Boulevard-
' APN: 208-101-23. (Continued from September 27, 2000)
Chairman McNiel observed that the applicant had telephoned and indicated a desire to withdraw the
application. He opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Stewart, to continue Conditional Use Permit 97-38 and
Entertainment Permit 97-04 to October 25, 2000. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MANNERINO, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE - carried
F. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 00-09—PATAIL—The
development of a 10,944 square foot church with a religious education school on 2.86 acres in
the Low Residential District (2-4 dwelling units per acre), located at 9212 Base Line Road —
APN: 202-242-09.
Kid Coury, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. He indicated that staff received two
telephone calls in late July from residents opposing the project with concerns regarding traffic
impacts, visual impacts, and operational impacts to the neighborhood. He reported that the
Commissioners also had a copy of a letter submitted earlier in the day opposing placement of a
•church within a residential neighborhood.
Chairman McNiel opened the public hearing.
Shoaib Patail, 5538 Vinmar Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated that school classes would be held
only on Sundays.
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Commissioner Tolstoy asked what roll the minarets would play when the project is completed. He
said he has been in countries where the church is very prominent and the minarets are used to call
people for worship. He felt that would not be desirable in this neighborhood.
Mr. Patail responded it is a religious symbol but would not have any sound impacts with the minarets
or a microphone through them. He confirmed that minarets are used for that purpose in many
countries, but said they abide by City requirements for all the churches built in the United States and
Europe. He stated the building will also be soundproofed and no loudspeakers will be used.
Commissioner Stewart asked the size of the congregation.
Mr. Patail replied that it varies with 80 to 100 people coming on Fridays, which is their Sabbath. He
indicated that it varies up to 25 people during the rest of the week but more on Sundays with parents
dropping off their children for school. He said there should not be a major crowd bothering the
neighbors.
Commissioner Stewart asked how long the church has existed.
Mr. Patail indicated they currently rent meeting space at the Lions Center on Fridays from 12:00
noon to 2:30 p.m. and on Sundays for approximately 4 hours for religious school. He said they have
been at the Lions Center for almost a year. He remarked they previously met in a warehouse on
Feron Boulevard for more than 9 years. He suggested contacting the Lions Center and said they
conduct themselves in a very organized fashion.
Chuck Horton, 7097 Lion Street, Rancho Cucamonga, stated he did not know too much about the
project. He observed that the applicant had said the congregation is about 80 people and he
wondered why such a small congregation would need to build an 11,000 square foot church. He
questioned if the increased traffic was considered as part of the environmental review. He
commented that the newspaper had run a picture about the "parking lot on Base Line Road" in
Claremont. He said that Base Line Road at Hellman Avenue,Archibald Avenue, and Beryl Street is
also a parking lot on a daily basis in the evening for people coming home. He felt the environmental
impact should consider the increase in traffic.
Joy Perdeu, 7236 Hellman Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she lived there for 40 years and
enjoyed her privacy. She stated that she and her neighbors have been using the property over the
years to access their back yards, She asked how the fire department would get back there if there
was a bad fire. She said they have a peaceful,family neighborhood and they don't want anything to
disturb it.
Commissioner Tolstoy observed there is an established church at the corner and he asked if that
church had impacted them.
Ms. Perdeu replied there has been only one problem with the church in that people think they can get
to the church from Hellman Avenue. She said when they realize they cannot get to the church from
Hellman, they use her driveway to turn around. She stated that when the storm drain was put down
Hellman Avenue, they were promised double lines would be painted on the street but that was not
done.
Jody Taylor, 7234 Hellman Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga, stated she has lived on Hellman her entire
life and her back yard is right where the church would be. She said she was not opposed to a
church but wanted the church moved to be up at Base Line Road with parking behind it. She was
not sure if there is an easement over the property to access back yards, but she stated that for
approximately 40 years the houses along Hellman have had gates and could pull off Base Line Road
and drive to their back yards. She didn't know if it was in a deed but she thought it had become like
an easement because they had done it for so long. She said she has small children.
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Hearing no further testimony, Chairman McNiel closed the public hearing.
Brad Buller, City Planner, asked if the applicant had ever considered putting the church closer to
Base Line Road with parking in the rear.
Mr. Coury responded that the matter had been discussed with the applicant when the project was
initially submitted, but the applicant felt they could get better access and on-site circulation from the
existing driveway approach in the front.
Mr. Buller said the codes require a certain amount of parking in relationship to the square footage of
the main sanctuary. He observed that the church is planning to build the project in phases. He said
they plan to occupy the existing structures in the front of the property and build a parking lot and then
eventually build the back portion. He thought a big part of the consideration was the phasing so that
there would not be complete downtime caused by taking down a building and building another. He
said in either case there would be some building in the back. He thought the church was trying to
construct it in phases that it could financially handle. Regarding the traffic issue, Mr. Buller stated
the environmental review included an analysis of the amount of traffic on the street as well as what
would be coming in and out of the property and the driveway location. He acknowledged that Base
Line Road is a busy street, but said it was believed the amount of traffic generated could safely be
handled because of the size of the property and the location of the driveway. Regarding having a
church in a residential neighborhood, Mr. Buller indicated it is not uncommon to have churches
locate in neighborhoods. He said staff is pleased that the church is taking access from Base Line
Road whereas in some neighborhoods access is taken from local streets within the neighborhoods.
With respect to the question regarding the size of the church, he believed the church was forecasting
the growth they are hoping for, not necessarily what they are today. He said the church would be
limited in size by the amount of parking available on site. Regarding the question about access to
the rear yards of lots along Hellman Avenue, he said that would be a legal matter for the courts to
decide if there are prescriptive rights over the property and the Planning Commission would have no
jurisdiction in that regard. He noted that the fire department had reviewed the project and found the
setbacks and access to the site to be satisfactory for the purposes of fire protection to the site. He
said that fire access to the yards of the properties that front Hellman Avenue would be from Hellman
Avenue.
Kevin Ennis, Assistant City Attomey, concurred with Mr. Butler's explanation regarding the legal
access.
Chairman McNiel recalled there was a phasing issue with respect to the placement of the building in
the back and the use of the buildings in the front on an interim basis until they grow to a point where
they can construct the building in the back. With respect to traffic congestion on Base Line Road,he
stated that the traffic is compounded at certain times of the day by virtue of the proximity of the high
school and that all east-west routes are currently jammed and will be that way until the new freeway
opens up. He felt that a lot of the traffic will be lifted from the surface streets when the freeway
opens.
Commissioner Stewart stated the project went through the Design Review process twice because it
had several major issues when it was first presented with one of those issues being fire access. She
felt the applicant was very cooperative in working with the City in resolving the issues. She said the
project had been reviewed a number of times before getting to the Planning Commission meeting.
She noted it is a conditional use permit, meaning that it can be brought back before the City Planner
if problems arise. She felt they will be good neighbors and said they have worked diligently to this
point.
Chairman McNiel stated a lot of church applications have been processed during his time on the
Planning Commission and churches by and large are a very good thing because they provide a place
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for people to gather and get to know each other. He said quite often the surrounding residents voice
concerns but then find that they are better neighbors than other uses, even housing.
Commissioner Mannerino stated that based upon the time spent on the project by Commissioners
McNiel, Mannerino, and Stewart at the Design Review Committee level, he would make a motion to
approve the project.
Commissioner Macias stated he felt compelled to respond to a statement made in the letter of
opposition to the project indicating that the City wants"to keep the good old American values that we
treasure so much." He felt there is nothing more American than religious worship. He thought the
project is good for the City and the church would become part of the City. He seconded the motion.
Commissioner Tolstoy felt it is imperative that churches grow and that they be where the people are,
which is in residential neighborhoods.
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Macias,to issue a Negative Declaration and adopt the
resolution approving Conditional Use Permit 00-09. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MANNERINO, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE - carried
The Planning Commission recessed from 7:53 p.m. to 7:58 p.m.
DIRECTOR'S REPORTS
G. PRELIMINARY REVIEW 00-12 - ETIWANDA SCHOOL DISTRICT- A review of the proposed
site acquisition of an additional 2.12 acres of land for an elementary school site, for a total of
12.12 acres, located in the Low-Medium Residential District(4-8 dwelling units per acre)of the
Etiwanda Specific Plan (ESP) on the east side of Etiwanda Avenue, at Craig Drive, north of
Base Line Road -APN: 227-131-20.
Alan Warren,Associate Planner, presented the staff report and said he had received a telephone call
from Superintendent Golden earlier in the day indicating that he could not be here this evening
because of a last minute conflict.
Chairman McNiel invited public comment, but there was none.
Commissioner Tolstoy supported staffs comments.
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Macias, to support staffs recommendation and direct
staff to forward comments to the School District. Motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: MACIAS, MANNERINO, MCNIEL, STEWART, TOLSTOY
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE - carried
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments at this time.
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
Brad Buller, City Planner, indicated that the General Plan Task Force agenda packet had been given
to all Planning Commissioners. He said he was available to discuss the information with any of the
Commissioners.
Following a discussion regarding Thanksgiving week availability, it was the consensus of the
Commission that an adjourned Meeting would be held on Tuesday, November 21, in lieu of the
regularly scheduled meeting on November 22, 2000.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Moved by Mannerino, seconded by Macias, carried 5-0, to adjourn. The Planning
Commission adjourned at 8:08 p.m. to a workshop. The workshop adjourned at 10:00 p.m. and
those minutes appear separately.
Respectfully submitted,
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