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Home My WebLink About1999/03/10 - Workshop Minutes - PC-HPC CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting March 10, 1999 Chairman McNiel called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 8:20 p.m. The meeting was held in the Rains Room at the Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: Rich Macias, John Mannerino, Larry McNiel, Pam Stewart, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Nancy Forts, Senior Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Duane Morita, Contract Planner; and Rebecca Van Buren, Associate Planner OLD BUSINESS A. THE VICTORIA ARBORS (FORMERLY VICTORIA LAKES) - AMERICAN BEAUTY DEVELOPMENT CO. - An overview of the proposed land use and development concepts for Victoda Arbors within the Victoria Community Plan on approximately 291.8 acres of land, generally bounded by Base Line Road, Foothill Boulevard, Etiwanda Avenue, and the Day Creek Channel - APN: 227-201-04, 13 through 18, 22, 28 through 30, and 36; 222-201-33; 227-161-33, 35, 36, and 38; and 227~171-08, 11, 12, 14, 20, 22, and 23. Brad Buller, City Planner, explained those issues and items to be discussed at the workshop, including fiscal implications and phasing of improvements to service the project. He summarized the fiscal impact report prepared by Agajanian and Associates. He explained that the report concluded that, although the proposed project would be a net fiscal gain for the City, the amount of gain would not be as great as the approved Lakes project. Commissioner Macias inquired as to what the City strategy was for commercial development in the City. Mr. Bullet responded that this particular issue would be addressed with the City's General Plan update. Matt Disston, DMG Economics, provided an overview of his review of the Agajanian report. He agreed that the regional mall site was a good location for commercial development, as were areas along Foothill Boulevard. He suggested that commercial development along Day Creek was not advantageous and explained why he felt that was true. He clarified that this review was completed within one week and is very preliminary. Commissioner McNiel asked Mr. Disston how"borderline" commercial development in the west side could survive? Mr. Disston responded that any commercial use would survive if it is economically viable. He commented that 5,000 roof tops are required to service a grocery store. Mr. Bullet indicated that this issue was very complex and that the Planning Commission should hear the applicant's conclusions tonight, but address any comments during the March 23, 1999, Planning Commission public headng. Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, provided an overview of the project's improvement phasing plan, He mentioned that improvements north and south of Church Street could be developed independently. Chairman McNiel did not support half-street improvements. He preferred street improvements be provided on both sides of the road and suggested that Church Street be improved to full width. The full Commission concurred with Chairman McNiel. Bob Lacoss, PDS West, presented drawings of the green belt paseos being proposed with their application. Chairman McNiel inquired as to the City's obligation for maintaining landscaping. Mr. Bullet responded that the city would maintain the landscaping through a Landscape Maintenance District. .NEW BUSINESS B. PRE-APPLICATION REVIEW 99-02 - OVERLAND COMPANY - Consideration of land use and site plan alternatives for approximately 150 acres of land located south of Interstate 15, north of Foothill Boulevard, and west of East Avenue in the Etiwanda Specific Plan APN: 1100-031-08, 1100-041-04 through 10, 1100-061-02 through 04, 1100-071-01 and 02, 1100-081-01 through 06, 1100-031-01 and 02, 1100-141-01 and 02, 1100-151-01 and 02, 1100-181-01 and 04, and 1100-191-04 and 05. Brad Buller, City Planner, explained the purpose of the pre-application review process. Joseph Oleson, project representative, introduced Fred Liao of Overland Company. Mr. Oleson stated that Ovedand Company is working in collaboration with Nelson Chung of Pacific Communities, who owns the 283 single family lot subdivision recently approved in this area (Tentative Tract 15711). He identified seven sites which surround Tentative Tract 15711. He provided an overview of the package provided to the Commissioners showing development concepts for Planning Areas "A" through "G," Rebecca Van Buren, Associate Planner, provided an overview of the issues for each planning area. She expressed staff's concerns with shifting of the neighborhood park from Tentative Tract 15711 to a site along the freeway and, secondly, the proposed Office Professional use in the triangular area labeled Planning Area "G" (south of the freeway, west of Etiwanda Avenue, and north of Foothill Boulevard). She noted there is an existing row of houses which would become a poody planned island in the center of the office area. She stated that staff recommends the PC Adjourned Minutes -2- March 10, 1999 park remain in the approved location as shown in Tentative Tract 15711 plans and that the triangle be either comprehensively planned to integrate all uses or left alone. Commissioner Macias did not feel the park should be moved from its centralized location in the neighborhood. Commissioner Stewart concurred with Commissioner Macias and indicated she was not convinced an office/professional land use would be viable in the triangular Planning Area "G." Commissioner Tolstoy also agreed with the other Commissioners. He observed that the present location allows park expansion into the utility corridor. He further commented that the triangular area is problematic for an office use because it has very little exposure to the street. He thought multi-family (Planning Area "E") might be a good transition to the commercial corridor. Commissioner Mannerino was not opposed to using multi-family residential to transition to the commercial corridor. He commented that the air pollution associated with a freeway is not conducive to a park. He noted that an office/professional use in the triangle would only be feasible for stand-alone businesses. Chairman McNiel envisioned two parks, an Etiwanda Avenue park and a utility easement park. He felt multi-family next to a commercial corridor might be viable. He further said that the office/professional triangle is questionable; it may not be planning for success. He elaborated that the site would be difficult to access and would need a use that did not rely upon much traffic. Mr. Buller summarized the discussion and clarified that comments regarding the shifting of multi- family land use should not be interpreted as increasing density overall. He further elaborated that a master plan for the entire triangle bounded by Foothill Boulevard, Etiwanda Avenue, and the 1-15 Freeway should be presented to show alternatives and that the park should be retained in a centrally accessible location to the neighborhood it serves. PUBLIC cOr~MENTS None ADJOURNMENT The Planning'Commission adjourned at 10:20 p.m. to a meeting on Tuesday, March 23, 1999, in lieu of the regularly scheduled meeting on March 24, 1999. Brad Buller Secretary PC Adjourned Minutes -3- March 10, 1999