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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995/02/22 - Workshop Minutes - PC-HPCCITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting February 22, 1995 Chairman Barker called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Con~nission to order at 8:30 p.m. The meeting was held in the Rains Room at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROTJ. C~T.T. COMMISSIONERS: PRESENT: David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Bullet, City Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Beverly Luttrell, Associate Planner , , , , , ANNOUNCRMRNTS There were no announcements. , , , , OT.D BUSINESS Ae CONDITIONAT. USE PERMIT 94-26 - MASI PARTNERS - The design review of architectural elevations, site plan, material and colors board, and footprints for Building 18/19 (ice rink) Building 27 (theater) and related parking requirements for the above noted buildings and modifications to Building 1 (Jiffy Lube), which were conceptually approved by the Planning Commission, located on 27 acres of land at the southwest corner of Foothill Boulevard and Rochester Avenue in the Industrial Park District (Subarea 7) of the Industrial Area Specific Plan - APN: 227-011-10, 19, 21, and 26 through 28. The Commissioners and the applicant agreed to take Comments No. i and 2 of the staff report regarding the Site Plan of the theater building together. Discussion ensued regarding whether or not the drop off was necessary. John De Frenza, 20301 S.W. Birch St., Suite 101, Newport Beach, requested that the Commission give their opinion on this issue before he respond. Chairman Barker felt the proposed entry was unsafe. Commissioner Tolstoy thought there should be a larger drop-off area and the parking along the northern tier should be deleted. Michael Scandiffio, 1510 Riverside Drive, Burbank, questioned whether or not the drop off could be to the rear of the building. Chairman Barker and Commissioner McNiel indicated they thought people want to be dropped off as close to the front entrance as possible. Mr. De Frenza remarked he had looked into whether or not he should realign the drive aisle into the theater parking area from Sebastian Way. He acknowledged that there might be problems with the circulation in the parking lot due to the new uses and building types introduced. Commissioner Tolstoy felt that the drop off is too small and patrons have to have easy access into the building. Mr. Scandiffio stated he felt they were receiving vague comments and he wanted to know what they should come back with. Commissioner Melcher stated that it should be designed as a drop off and not as an obstruction. Mr. De Frenza wanted to know if one car length was long enough. Commissioner Lumpp stated he felt the applicant was asking the Commission to design it for them and that was not thee Commission's job. Regarding Comment No. 3 of the staff report, Mr. De Frenza remarked that they would revise the site plan to indicate landscaping between the walk and the building. Brad Buller, City Planner, questioned the location of the Edison vault in full view of the public street. Regarding Comment No. 4 of the staff report (location of the trash enclosure), Mr Scandiffio stated that if it is too far away from the entrance to the building, there will be problems with "grease trails." Commissioner Tolstoy said he would like to see the trash enclosure relocated to the back of the theater. Mr. Scandiffio responded that Rancho Disposal had already approved the locations and wanted them along the main drive aisle. Chairman Barker and Commissioners Tolstoy and McNiel stated they really did not care where the enclosures are located so long as they are attractive and convenient to users. Commissioner Lumpp requested that the applicant bring in the approved plans from the disposal company, and stated that he did not feel the location of trash enclosures should dictate the design of the center. Regarding Comment No. 5 of the staff report (hardscape north of Building 11), the applicant responded that a retardant finish with shiner bands consistent with the rest of the center will be provided. Regarding Comment No. 6 of the staff report, the applicant stated that the paving at the theater entrance will have special paving presented on the next submittal. Regarding Comment No. 7 of the staff report, the applicant noted that they will include the design of the corridor along the east side of Building 11 in their next submittal. PC Adjourned Minutes (CUP 94-26) -2- February 22, 1995 Regarding Comment No. 9 of the staff report, Mr. De Frenza noted that the area between Building 27 and the curb is the end of the pedestrian experience; therefore, he felt it does not need to be very wide, since there will be no one walking in the area. Mr. Scandiffio suggested that the corner between the column and the building be eliminated and a 45 degree angle used. Commissioner Tolstoy suggested that the column be eliminated completely and that at least 6 feet be provided for pedestrians. Commissioner McNiel concurred with this idea. Commissioner Melcher stated he felt there were too many compromises made on the site. Mr. De Frenza stated they could not reduce square footage from the building, since the client stated he needs at least 1,800 square feet. He thought vine pockets are needed to soften the look of the south side of the theater. In order to have a more inviting space in front of the theater, it was agreed that 16-foot parking stalls would be allowed with 2 feet of overhang. The applicant indicated they would provide the dimensions of the cornice treatment of all the buildings. Commissioner Melcher stated that the curved facade over the entry has a flat radius and he felt there will not be any sharp definition where the slight curve meets the flat portion of the building. He suggested projecting it out more to get a more definite line. The Commission noted that the directory sign located in the front of the entry to the theater will be in the way of the entrance and will be too crowded The applicant indicated that it was eight feet in height. Commissioner Melcher stated he did not want to see it in its present location. Regarding the tiles which are called out on the front elevation, Mr. De Frenza indicated that they will actually be glass block. He did not know the color, size, shape, or color of grout, but said he would try to have it for the next meeting. The Commission indicated that the signage for the theater is an integral part of the architecture and should be thought of in the early stages of design development. Regarding the Jack in the Box drawings, Mr. Buller and the Commission indicated that the issue is screening of the drive-thru aisle and that even if there were to be a walkway to the Jack in the Box from the sidewalk, screen walls and berming must be provided. , , , , PUBr. IC COMMENTS There were no public comments at this time. PC Adjourned Minutes (CUP 94-26) -3- February 22, 1995 ~DJOURNMRNT The workshop adjourned at 11:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Secretary PC Adjourned Minutes (CUP 94-26) -4- February 22, 1995