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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Adjourned Meeting
February 9, 1994
Chairman Barker called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held
in the Rains Room at the Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center
Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
PRESENT:
David Barker, Heinz Lumpp, John Melcher,
Peter Tolstoy
ABSENT: Larry McNiel
STAFF PRESENT:
Brad Buller, City Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate
Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Olen Jones,
Senior Redevelopment Analyst; Jan Reynolds, Assistant
Redevelopment Analyst; LeAnn Smothers, Redevelopment
Analyst
OWNER/DEVELOPER:
Nacho Gracia, Santos Fuentes and Gabriel Guerra, North
Town Housing Development Corporation; David Rosen and
Nora Brown, David Rosen & Associates; Bob Banman, Prairie
Pacific Investments; Dan Guerra, Derbish Guerra
Associates; Michael Pyatok, Pyatok Associatesr Rafael
Urena, Wolff/Lang/Christopher Architects
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NORTH TOWN AFFORDABLE HOUSING - Review of the conceptual site planning with
specific review of the revised on-site parking concept for an 8.7 acre site
located south of the Rancho Cucamonga Middle School on the south side of Feron
Boulevard, west of Old Town Park.
Chairman Barker opened the workshop by inviting the development team to
present the revised site plan, explaining how the concerns relative to parking
had been addressed since the previous Planning Commission workshop on December
14, 1993.
Michael Pyatok, Pyatok Associates Architects, provided a chart summarizing the
revisions to the parking situation since the site plan was previously reviewed
by the Commission on December 14, 1993. He explained that the "tandem"
parking spaces in individual driveways no longer need to be counted as
required parking for the project. He noted how the new carports would be
assigned and the use and purpose of the meeting facility and the child care
center.
Commissioner Tolstoy inquired on how the drop-off area for the child care
facility would function.
Mr. Pyatok stated that children would be assisted inside by their parents or
guardians and signed in. The parking spaces nearest the entrance would be
designated as short-term parking for a drop-off/pick-up area.
Chairman Barker asked about the range of ages intended to be cared for at the
child care facility.
Mr. Pyatok noted that a majority of children would most likely be pre-school
age (two to five years old).
Chairman Barker asked who would operate the child care facility.
Mr. Pyatok stated that the facility will be managed by a State licensed
operator.
David Rosen, David Rosen & Associates, added that child care priority will be
given to parents living within this project.
Commissioner Melcher asked Mr. Pyatok to highlight those areas where open
space had been lost to carport parking spaces.
Mr. Pyatok indicated those areas, primarily at the end of the auto courts, in
front of the five bedroom units.
Commissioner Melcher inquired as to the need for a drive aisle wider than 36
feet in some areas of the project.
Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer, clarified that the Fire District will have
jurisdiction over the design and width of the drive aisles since they are not
intended to be public streets. He reported their current policy is t~ have a
minimum 26-foot wide free and clear area for fire access.
Chairman Barker expressed concern that residents may park in their private
patio areas. He suggested that a low wall be introduced along the patio edge
adjacent to the driveways to deter people from parking cars on their patios.
Commissioner Lumpp noted his concern for potential burglaries and personal
injuries in the carport areas.
Mr. Pyatok felt that this issue would be lessened by the way in which carports
were assigned, so that the only vehicle traffic in the auto courts would be
residents of that court.
Commissioner Melcher noted his concern for personal security for the house
plan without a connection from the back of the unit to the living area.
Mr. Pyatok agreed to provide a solution to this problem.
Mr. Rosen indicated a willingness to provide security lights with motion
sensors in critical areas.
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Chairman Barker asked Mr. Pyatok to show how their proposal addresses the
security needs at all vehicular and pedestrian access points.
Mr. Pyatok stated that the entire project will be fenced or walled around its
perimeter, with the exception of the main vehicular access. He said the gates
at the pedestrian entrances will be locked at times determined by the
community, but most likely from after dark until morning.
Commissioner Lumpp asked if the requirements for common open space are being
met with this proposal.
Steve Hayes, Associate Planner, responded that the common open space
requirement of 10 percent of the net lot area was easily provided with the
previous proposal and the revisions to this plan did not constitute a
significant loss of common open space.
Chairman Barker asked how the developer would be initiating efforts toward
minimizing graffiti.
Mr. Pyatok indicated that vines and a drip irrigation system are proposed
along the railroad right-of-way on the outside of the wall.
Chairman Barker also expressed this concern relative to the west property
line.
Brad Buller, City Planner, asked how the exterior of other walls, fences, and
buildings would be treated to inhibit graffiti.
Mr. Pyatok noted that the initial plan is to plant shrub hedges along the
interior sides of the perimeter walls and fences to discourage graffitl.
Mr. Rosen added that the resident management association will support the goal
of neutralizing graffiti in the project.
Commissioner Tolstoy inquired about the amount of space between walls and
pedestrian walkways for landscaping,
Mr. Pyatok stated that the width of these areas range from 3 to 10 feet.
Chairman Barker reiterated his concerns about safety and graffiti and noted
that it is the Planning Commission's responsibility to reduce these concerns
through proper site plan and landscape design.
Commissioner Lumpp inquired about the height of the walls along the railroad
tracks.
Mr. Pyatok stated that the wall would be required to be approximately 10 feet
in height to mitigate train noise to acceptable levels.
Commissioner Tolstoy asked if double-paned windows would be necessary for
internal sound attenuation.
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Mr. Pyatok responded affirmatively.
Chairman Barker felt that this project should set the tone for future
residential development in responding to safety and graffiti concerns. He
noted that security patrol would be advisable to augment the security fences.
Nacho Gracia, North Town Housing Development Corporation, reiterated
neighborhood concerns, such as security, proximity of attached garages to the
living quarters, and the need for larger private yards as opposed to large
common open spaces. He stated that this concept was a result of neighborhood
participation and if the concept is altered significantly, then the project
would no longer be the neighborhood's project.
Chairman Barker felt that the established theme should not and would not be
required to be altered significantly.
Mr. Rosen noted that the number of five bedroom units had been reduced
significantly.
Chairman Barker stated that he was impressed that the architect could fit the
required parking on-site without losing any units.
Commissioner Melcher asked Mr. Gracia if he was satisfied with the number and
location of parking spaces.
Mr. Gracia responded affirmatively.
Mr. Rosen indicated that all of the financial officers reviewing this project
were quite receptive to providing the necessary financial support.
Santos Fuentes, North Town Housing Development Corporation, felt confident
that the selected management team will preform their job competently.
Bob Banman, Prairie Pacific Investments, noted that due to the unique approach
to affordable housing, most financial agencies were willing to provide the
necessary funding.
Commissioner Lumpp reiterated that special attention should be paid to the
wall and fence designs throughout the project.
Commissioner Tolstoy expressed his enthusiasm on how the site plan design was
derived from the neighborhood meetings and felt that successful management
would be the key to having a successful project.
Mr. Bullet asked the applicant if a tiered report could be developed to
address the security measures and the mitigations to security concerns through
design (fences, security lighting, etc.).
Mr. Pyatok felt that this would be an excellent idea and said he would be
willing to work on the document.
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Chairman Barker summarized by stating that the parking situation appeared to
be addressed and the resolution to the security issues could set the precedent
in reviewing future projects.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 5:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Secretary
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