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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993/09/09 - Workshop Minutes - PC-HPCCITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Adjourned Meeting September 9, 1993 Chairman McNiel called the Adjourned Meeting of the City of Rancho Cucamonga Planning Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was held in the Rains Room at Rancho Cucamonga Civic Center, 10500 Civic Center Drive, Rancho Cucamonga, California. ROLL CALL COMMISSIONERS: PRE SENT: Suzanne Chitiea, Larry McNiel, John Melcher, Peter Tolstoy, Wendy Vallette ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Brad Buller, City Planner; Dan Coleman, Principal Planner; Steve Hayes, Associate Planner; Dan James, Senior Civil Engineer; Steve Ross, Assistant Planner LEWIS REPRESENTATIVES: Start Bell, Jary Cockroft, George Chu, Don Thompson , , , , , COMMISSION BUSINESS A. TERRA VISTA - NOW 1. COMPLIMENTS The Commissioners complimented Lewis on the fine maintenance of their commercial, industrial, and multi-family projects within Tetra Vista. The Commission also had many good words to say about Terra Vista Town Center. City Planner Brad Buller, the Lewis representatives, and the Commissioners concurred that the City and Lewis have a very good working relationship. Representatives from Lewis Homes specifically commented that they appreciated the recent movement of the Planning Commission to defer more items to staff rather than returning back before the Planning Commission. 2. CONCERNS a. Status of quadrant and area development plans Commissioner Melcher felt that the area development plans are difficult to read and do not provide much useful information as currently drawn. He thought they should better show how proposed developments relate to existing, as well as planned, projects in the vicinity so that new projects could be designed with sensitivity to adjacent projects. He also thought that project plans should illustrate either design concepts or existing projects in enough detail to clearly illustrate the relationship between the project under consideration and its surroundings. Lewis representatives stated they would work on that but indicated that because they are showing future projects that may never happen as drawn, they are reluctant to get too specific. b. Density transitions between projects The Commissioners discussed how to design transitions between projects of differing densities. They stated that the massing and architecture of buildings, as well as the overall site planning, should be sensitive to adjacent projects of different densities. It was felt that rather than providing all of the transition on the higher density site, Lewis should plan ahead and provide a buffer and transition on the lower density site as well. Stan Bell, Lewis Homes, stated that the standards of the Tetra Vista Community Plan are being met and that is all that Lewis should have to comply with. The Commissioners responded that meeting the minimum standards is not necessarily sufficient and would not necessarily result in an acceptable project design. c. Density projections and arrangement of vacant land The Commissioners all expressed their concerns about the future densities that could result in the remaining portion of Tetra Vista because of the number of units that are permitted under the original Development Agreement. They were concerned that very high density projects would be built on the last portions of Terra Vista. Don Thompson of Lewis stated that the company is not planning on building a lot of high density projects as a final part of Tetra Vista in order to achieve its maximum number of allotted units. They said that it would not be possible to catch up, and that the market would probably not support a lot of high density projects. Commissioner Tolstoy felt it will probably not be feasible to develop the proposed office and commercial district north of Foothill Boulevard, east of the Terra Vista Town Center. He suggested that a new master plan should be submitted for the development of this area. d. Variation in products Planning Commission Minutes -2- September 9, 1993 The Commissioners stated that greater variation should be provided among the various unit types. They indicated they like the integration of a single story floor plan into almost exclusively two-story tracts. B. TERRA VISTA - THE FUTURE 1. GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS Mr. Bell stated that higher density single family projects and townhomes with tuck-under garages will probably be proposed for future Terra Vista developments. He reiterated that people still prefer single family detached homes. Mr. Bullet suggested that the issues and concerns raised by the Planning Commission should be taken into account when designing future projects for development. It was the consensus and direction of the Commission that future residential submittals must reflect greater sensitivity in transition of density, variation in product type, and site planning. 2. PLANNING AND APPROVAL PROCEDURES It was the consensus that this issue would continue to be addressed and lines of communication will be kept open. 3. WORKSHOPS The Planning Commission stated that an ongoing series of regular workshops with representatives from Lewis Development Company would be a good time to discuss new product ideas with the Commission. It was decided that such meetings should take place once each quarter or on as an as-needed basis. , , , , , PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no additional public comments. , , , , ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brad Buller City Planner Planning Commission Minutes -3- September 9, 1993